What You Should Know About Eloy Casagrande (Slipknot)
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
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Eloy Casagrande has officially been announced as the new drummer for Slipknot, and while a lot of people are familiar with his name, they may not know about a lot of his early drumming history and the things that make him such a good drummer. So? Let's talk about what you should know about Eloy.
Eloy's Winning Performance from the Modern Drummer Festival 2005:
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"We now have to write music worth of Eloy's playing" -Jim Root
I love Jim but that's just crap statement. Jay was fire and was able to play everything Joey did and more. What, Jay's playing wasn't worth of writing elevated material? Bullshit.
@aleksandarradovanovic8496 Tell me just one song that can even compare drumming with Joey era. FYI Unsainted was any school band can imagine.
@@aleksandarradovanovic8496 Jay is nowhere near the skills of Eloy if you follow Eloy's work on Sepultura recently aswell as his Jazz/Fusion and Prog music stuff. Plays all tempos, not only 4/4's, uses ghost notes, swivell, doesnt need to use triggers, hits hard af, actually keeps temp instead of rushing every song... The list goes on. It's very factual that Eloy is far more talented and skilled than Jay. You can prefer Jay because music will always be subjective, but from a purelly ''how good he is'' Eloy is easilly ahead.
@@aleksandarradovanovic8496 there's a difference in PLAYING someone else's composition and composing yourself. Judgind by what Eloy did in Sepultura (talking about the 3 albums he recorded with them), Slipknot just leveled up by having Eloy onboard. I like jay btw, but he's not at the same level of Eloy, if you think he is, sorry you just don't know enough about drumming to see the huge gap.
Jim’s right. Joey was a legend and creative in his own way. Eloy brings amazing potential to new material - I’m looking forward to hearing it!
If anyone complains about Eloy, they are ignorant and don't know anything about how great he is. He is absolutely fire
*and they’re just doing it to shit on the band because that’s trend nowadays even when there’s no reason to.*
@@DuragJones Who's ripping on Eloy though? Everything like EVERYTHING I've ever read about him being in this band has been "Ermahgerd!! He is the best drummer since the history of heavy metal and rock n' roll!!!" The thing is nobody ever talked him up like that when he was in Sepultura, I think everyone knew when he was in Sepultura that he was a very good and solid drummer, and he is. But since Slipknot, its just been gushing about how he is this next level drummer that no one else compares to. And its pretty weird to see the amount of praise for him. Just strange, and these people throwing shade is like some mythical internet troll I've yet to see in the wild.
I don’t know how great he is; however, I just know he is going to be great
@AngryMetaIhead rest assured, he was already great loooong before slipknot. YT search his Slipknot play throughs, nobody played them with as much power and class as Eloy, Joey or Jay, not even close. Check out studio sessions for Sepultura, Quadra on YT with him tracking and writing drum parts. He would have to be well within one of the most talented drummers in metal, rarely talking about, in the last 15 years, absolutely no question. If anything Joey's or Jay's shoes will be a little tight on him.
@tw19771 he's the best for years now, you're the one that just found out about him. You can go and check Steparios talking how's he's the best metal drummer in the world 2 years ago!!
Anybody that thinks Eloy is not good are looking at this through jaundiced eyes. The guy is the top of the game in metal drumming.
I thought it said not good looking lmao
Well after Jim Root said that he feels his love for playing guitar came back after seeing Eloy's love for drumming, i think there's nothing else needed to be said. He fit the band, he added energy, everyone of them is loving it and you can see it.
People hating on Eloy are those who just hate everything or anyone. The fandom of Slipknot is “Slipknot died when Paul died, when they fired Joey, when they fired Chris, when Craig left, and when Jay was fired! They’re not the same.” Look I was angry when Jay was fired too but now i understand why he was let go. Eloy is an amazing drummer!
I think he was mostly using it as a framing device for the video bc frankly I havent seen much Eloy hate practically anywhere. You can find people being shitty about anything if you look hard enough I guess but it's not really common. I have seen plenty of hyped up Eloy fans being shitty about Jay though--and even Joey, e.g. I have literally seen more people using Eloy to shittalk a deceased drumming legend than I've seen people talking shit about Eloy joining Slipknot.
We Maggots are Blessed with 3 of the greatest metal drummers of all time Joy, Jay and Eloy. we are spoiled. ❤ People are complaining about everything and everywhere, Slipknot has never left and won't leave. And my guys are OP and On Fire right now 😎🔥💪…. Sometimes things change and that’s it purity. I love every single one of them the old members and the news cuz they help me every single day with music 🎵…
@@mediumvillainI haven’t seen any “Eloy hate” but I’ve seen more comments like “Jay was perfectly fine” on videos of Eloy’s first performance. When in all reality Jay only got the job done, Eloy is the greatest thing that could have happened to this band
@@mediumvillain These dudes shit talking jay and Joey arent even metal fans, the news of Eloy joining reached mainstream media here on Brazil, a lot, and i mean A LOT of unhinged clueless people hopped into the bandwagon of hyping the guy. The dude's good, top of the line on his craft, but Jay was fine, Joey was on another level with all the drum lines he wrote, theres no way you can compare Joey and Eloy if you're a slipknot fan at all, thats heresy.
I doubt even Eloy likes the comparisons, dudes very modest about his skills and doesnt have an inflated ego like these dipshits online.
@@Bramble20322 Yeah, I could tell, a lot of it was in Portugese and absolutely over the top disrespectful shittalking aimed at Jay & Joey. Definitely not something Eloy would cosign. Rabid nationalists I guess.
I could not even imagine if a legendary American drummer joined a Swedish metal band being like "yeah man, show those talentless hacks how a real drummer makes music." Like, get a fucking grip on yourself.
Holy crap, at 14, I was just learning how to whack it properly.
Eloy is an absolute technical boss on drums, but he also plays with heart.
That is truly rare.
Hahahahahahaha
You learned how whack it at 14?
@@gibbyiguess Key word is "properly".
@@themechaniacal1558 you learned how to whack it properly at 14 🤨
Sepultura's new drummer is 21 and incredible too (Greyson Nekrutman)
Grayson is insanely good too.
Sepultura's guitarist is an idiot.
Greyson is an absolute animal as well, yeah!
greyson will be so f-ing good when he's 30 something too.. he's already a beast, and the fact that he's branching out only means he'll become one of the best drummers in the world for sure
It’s crazy. Never thought I’d see Grayson outside of jazz then he’s playing for suicidal. Eloy leaves on of my favorite bands to go to another favorite band and Grayson joins sepultura die the farewell tour. And I think I saw jay has been playing with suicidal
Eloy is a powerhouse. Dude plays in tempo, with incredible strength, nuance, and does all his footwork without the use of triggers. Slipknot hasn't sounded this good in YEARS. He ties the band together perfectly.
Triggers just add production value, doesn’t help you play better
@@retrayal4642it actually helps. If every single kick sounds perfectly loud even if you softly touch it... It covers your lacking skills.
Even though that doesn't sound organic at all.
I mean, when you are trying to play really fast, triggers is basically cheating.
If the song is not played that fast, it doesn't really matter.
His fills and ghost notes are tasty bro
@@retrayal4642It does tho thats why they were created lol to cheat.
@@nikiktwotwo4470 this is not why people use triggers, not how they work. If you sound like shit, a trigger is going to amplify how shitty you sound.
"but in Brazil, they speak portuguese, which is not spanish" priceless 🤣🤣👌🏻
As a long time subscriber of yours, who happens to be from Brazil, I appreciate you including the correct pronunciation of his name in this video👏🏼🇧🇷
Non-musicians critiquing musicians holds no water! Especially guys like Eloy, who clearly has put in the ten thousand HOURS on his instrument. 💪🏽🔥🤘🏽
This! 99% of the ones that ive seen complaining are non-musicians.
For me, the most special part of Eloy's work is that He studied a lot of Brazilian rhythms with really good teachers and now he has this groove and perfect tempo because most old Brazilian music DONT' USE the metronome, the flow and the tempo that he brings into Metal is a delight.
I'm with you dude. 100% stoked. I was bummed about Jay like a lot of people, but I'm anxious to hear what happens with Eloy. Apparently they already recorded a song with him. Seeing the post his wife put up about his journey was pretty touching for me. That dude has PUT IN THE WORK his whole life for this moment and it fills my ugly metal heart with joy to see someone get what they worked for.
Eloy is the first eloy. People shouldn't worry about him being the next joey, greetings from indiana!
BRASIL !!! BEST DRUMMER IN THE WORLD!!!!😎😈🤟🤟🤟
I was on a tour with my old band back in 2011. Sepultura and Exodus were the headliners. Sepultura turned up with this 20 something year old kid playing drums. This was his first show and concurrent tour with the band. It was a festival. Immediately after that set, all anyone on this tour and in the crowd could talk about was Sepultura's new drummer, which of course was Eloy. Every night of that tour (which was 31 shows in 31 days across Europe and Scandinavia ), the other drummers who were on this tour would be watching this kid go from behind his kit. Myself ( who is mediocre at best 😂), Tom hunting, Nick Barker, VAAVER and all our techs and crew would be watching with our jaws on the floor. Every show. He was an animal and played drums like none of us had ever seen.
Bottom line, Slipknot is lucky to have such a raw, powerful talent in their ranks and i hope they utilize it well. Eloy is a great guy and one of the best drummers to ever play in the metal realm. Ask anyone who knows 🤘
This was the thrashfest classics tour right? Saw it in Slovakia, Eloy shocked everyone in the audience, an animal
I had low expectations for slipknot since the jay thing and to be honest, they look revitalized and better than they have in years. I’m impressed.
Slipknot always had great drummers. Eloy is another great, great drummer. The thing to appreciate is: Eloy will, for sure, elevate slipknot music and live performances.
I remember seeing Eloy on TV, live, when he was 11 (I think) and immediately talking to my drummer friends about him. We knew we'd be big, but the level he's at is so above what we thought he'd get to. He deserves everything he's getting. Dude's not just an amazing drummer, but also an amazing person.
I think people hate on Eloy because they can't accept change. He's clearly a great drummer and a great fit for the band. Joey is missed as well as Jay, but bringing Eloy onboard was a great move.
Tank is the only reactor that I've heard pronounce Eloy's last name, correctly. Well done
Unfortunately you used the comma incorrectly. 😂
Eloy is an absolute beast and has been for years!!!!! What he brings to Slipknot will excel this version of the band into territory that hasn't ever been achieved by this band as we've ever known...Eloy will propel even further the greatness that Joey and Jay built into the legacy of this amazing band...I soooo look forward to what this new chapter will become!!!! Cheers all
I saw Slipknot at Welcome to Rockville on Sunday and he did AMAZING!!
I envy you very much. In a very good way.
Went to the Pappy's show & Sick New World. Dude is fucking incredible us Slipknot fans are lucky to have him light a spark under slipknot's ass again.
Eloy is a rare gifted prodigy. I have played for 40 years and i can guarantee you that anyone dogging Eloy is a complete fool that has never played a musical instrument. That's the problem with the web and keyboard negative losers. Great chat, and it's a huge upgrade for slip. Like a major trade in sports. Rock on. 🥁🇺🇸🦄🖖
BEST DRUMMER IN THE WORLD!! HESSSOOOO F.N..BAD ASS!!!!!!😈🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟💪🦾
I think that Slipknot picked him specifically because his drumming style meshes really well with the grooves that Slipknot have previously played. Especially when you consider their two percussionists and the reason that they are there in the first place. His tom fills fit perfectly
It will be interesting to hear the new compositions with him on the drums. Eloy has a pretty strong base in brazilian and afro-latin drumming, his stuff tends to be quirky but super groovy as a result, with interesting syncopations. He also tends to do a lot of back-and-forth phrasing with other instruments, and that will be super cool with the percussion stuff Slipknot has.
Eloy is an absolute BEAST. Really hoping his run with Slipknot goes well.
Eloy is a machine and amazing!!
This chapter of Slipknot will Eloy will be legendary. It’s even really cool to hear from people like Jim Root on Tone Talk, say that Eloy is a humble person who wants to honor the legacy of Joey and how also he’s so passionate about his craft that it makes the other members in the band re ignite their passions… which is credit to him and his amazing talents too
I absolutely love that Eloy is in Slipknot. I’m a a drummer w/ years of experience. I have been watching Eloy sense I herd him on MD fest, his grove is on the money, I can’t wait to hear what he does in future Slopknot songs.
My favorite drummer joined my favorite band as I'd hoped for and I'm so ridiculously excited to see it live! I've seen the LEGEND RIP Joey Jordison 3x and Jay 2x.
The Eloy era has begun and has brought new life! Just never was a big Jay fan but respect him though still.
Eloy by far is the most precise and technical drummer while being the hardest hitter I've ever seen and that's a VERY rare combination!
Saw Slipknot at Rockville, Eloy crushed it.
For all the americans, the pronunciation would be something like "Ehloy Kahzah-grahn-jee"
Indeed, we’re so proud for Eloy carrying our flag out to the world. Great content bro, much respect. Greetings from 🇧🇷
I wish all the best for Eloy. I hope people give up and give him a chance. He will be great addition to Slipknot.
Now imagine when they play Brazil, crowd gonna go wild.
With the people hating on eloy after Jay getting fired were just and STILL mad are jay/slipknot fanboys . I was pissed at first until i saw Jims comment. Completely changed my mind and remembered when Jane from Against Me said.
Eloy plays the songs as written. For example, every time I've seen Slipknot perform "Psychosocial" they always play it faster than what it was written. I'm the video of the first concert with Eloy, they played the song at the tempo it was written and I sounded fuckin awesome.
Yo tank, keep these uploads coming I love em bro!
Sorry we didn't see you at Pier 17!! Thank you for being so significant to putting on a great show. EC was incredible, loved every minute!
Yes..... Eloy is THAT good!
Remember... Eloy didn't join Slipknot... Slipknot joined Eloy! 😜
🤘🏼🥁🤘🏼
Já deu dessa piadinha, ninguém aguenta mais 😮💨
We're so proud of Eloy... legend.
I didnt knew who this gy was and thought it was just some cool Brazilian drummer. Am so happy to know I was wrong this guy is SO COOL
Yes, he makes us internationally proud since Modern Drummer Festival.
Respect to Jay, RIP Joey, but Eloy blasts.
Get to see them in August!! I'm very excited to get feel the drums! Can't wait. I'm taking my 12-year-old first concert!
Dude I'm so excited I'm seeing them in Camden on August 10th I can't wait to see what Eloy can do and I'm so excited to hear what he can bring to the band
Well said dude 🤘
thank you so much for talking about Eloy, he is such a great musician and in Brazil we are so proud for him, he was the right drummer for slipknot.
Absolutely agree with what you said Tank. I’m super excited for this new era of Slipknot especially since I’ve been a big fan of Eloy for a while now! 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
Eloy is a phenomenon, this not my type of music, but gotta give credit where it’s due, this young man is great, I could see him in many formats of music
You got a new follower! Thanks for your research and respect with Eloy’s career. I’m a Brazilian drummer as well and I’ve been following Eloy since he was just a kid drumming a mini drum kit on the biggest famous broadcast channel in Brazil that called “Globo” on tv show called “Domingão do Faustão”. I had an opportunity to meet Eloy on Sepultura’s concert many years ago and yes, you are right, this guy is the mostly best drummer that you can see in live show. About the tempo, he is a metronome human. You can check his video on his channel here on YT called Eloy vs Metronome. Thanks for the great video here! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Musician like Eloy makes me wanna listen to Slipknot and be passionate about it again.
Tank I was trying to get your attention after electric cowboys set at Rockville! I was on the rail yelling hi tank after their set haha fun fun set!
This guy brings the old fire they use too have and everyone in the band feels it and it shows and as a fan I love it!!!!!
It's extremely flattering for us that you went the extra mile and used the correct pronounciation, Tank. Much love, love your stuff 👏👏
Great video Tank, thanks! How’s the EC america tour going? Did you get the chance to record some cool footage?
Being a sound tech, not a musician, I had never really considered how much each member's abilities to play their respective instruments affect the performance. I had never really noticed drummers speeding up and slowing down during performances or recordings, so thanks, Tank, for the explanation.
Finally Eloy found a good support band to play. It's nice that he allowed them to play with him
I'm pretty stoked to hear new material with Eloy hopefully making his impact in the writing process.
Eloy is the best drummer Slipknot has ever had
I agree!!!
Idk enough about him to make an informed opinion, but I am excited to see how his musical (non nu-metal) pedigree influences the sound. That's what I loved about Joey as a drummer and what I still enjoy with Mick as a guitarist.
For the first time I'm going to see slipknot live. Knotfest in São Paulo in October. And I'm very happy to see Eloy playing here with the band he's been a fan of since he was a child
With Sepultura I see it as the end of a cycle in which Eloy was the key to everything, Sepultura's last 2 albums were really very good and this goes mainly through Eloy's drums, Eloy's preparation for metal music was meticulous well oriented, the guy took classes with Aquiles Priester who is one of the best and was in charge of Angra's drumsticks, then Eloy is invited to play in André Matos' solo band, André Matos being one of the best musicians in his genre of metal and finally the preparation with Sepultura, a legendary band with worldwide repercussion where Eloy was able to increase the level, I believe we will see Eloy's peak in Slipknot, and it is strange to see how the ties intertwine throughout history, Slipknot which was a band influenced by Sepultura in the 90s, now receives from Sepultura the energy necessary to continue.
Joey was a monster, great drum player, very creative and one of Eloy inspirations, I have nothing but respect about his drumming, Jay was a world class drummer with some caveats but really solid musically, both are perfectly capable to play in any metal band, Joey was better though, it isn't hard to compare, he just was, the same way that Eloy has a lot to prove on writing, there's no question that the legacy of Joey is better on that side, but if you are talking skill, there's no comparison, Eloy it's just a better drummer skill wise, there's no discussion, skill isn't everything for sure, that's why Lars is still one of the great names of metal drumming, but if you are talking skill it's as clear as day that Eloy is a mile ahead Joey, that was already ahead of Jay.
It's hard to say someone is the best drummer of all time, but it isn't that hard to say who are in the conversation to be the most skillful metal drummer of all time, and only one drummer in Slipknot has any chance to be on that conversation, and that's Eloy, period, we'll see about the songs they write together, but if you want to listen a live performance of the old songs, the absolute best drummer they ever had it's Eloy.
Super talented and happy to see him succeed!
Just got out of Big Texas Metal Fest, n I'll say All Shall Parish is F back, crazy year going for bands and ATX. Let's F Go!
Hey Tank! Before Sepultura, Eloy was the drummer for Gloria, an underground band from Brazil. He recorded the album "Renascido" (amazing performance, as always) and played with Gloria at Rock in Rio 2011, which was when the guys from Sepultura got knowledge from him. Greetings from Brazil!
Eloy is a legend
I suggest people to find the video where Eloy's playin Brazillian rhythms... Absolutely insane. Man can play any genre.
Eloy is the best drummer that ever lived and he's the nicest guy too
Something interesting to add is that before recording an album with André Matos (who is the biggest name in Brazilian melodic metal), Eloy started as a touring drummer at the age of 15.
I’m excited about Slipknot for the first time in about a decade. I’m very anxious to hear what they do on their next album with Eloy.
I've known of him for a good while, known some of his insane work, including Slipknot covers, for some time, but only after seeing him fuel the actual band with pure Brazilian groovy rage, I begin to understand what a crazy artist he is. There's always a "I can't believe he just did that" moment with this guy.
Amazing the explanation of the difference between spanish and portuguese pronunctiation, as a spanish based country in southamerica i must say thank you
I had never heard of Eloy until he joined slipknot, but from what I've seen, im a fan i think hes a benefit to the band and i cant wait to see where it goes
Sou brasileiro e fiquei encantado da forma que você falou sobre o eloy. Muitos dizem amar a música e o rock, porém conheceram ele hoje😂. Ainda bem que você fez um pequeno resumo sobre nosso novo baterista!! Ele gravou disco com André matos um gênio e mestre musical,fora ter ido ao SEPULTURA. Ele não está sentado no TRONO"bateria" do slipknot atoa, "THE HATE" deveriam saber disso. Ou pelo menos ter "Internet" pra pesquisar sobre quem eles falam tão mal🍷🗿
A perfect example how Eloy helps slipknot is just like how Art helped LOG.The power man the power and precision is unbelievable.Eloy is hands down my favorite drummer and there is soooo many good ones out there.I’m really looking forward to seeing Slipknot now at aftershock festival this year as we’ve skipped seeing them many times before
It's worth mentioning that Eloy has been dedicated to drumming for a long time, practicing for 12 hours a day and living and breathing drums his whole life. Also, he has had some privileges, such as receiving drum lessons since he was young from the best Brazilian drummer at the time, Aquiles Priest, and having supportive parents who provided him with drums at a very young age (7). What I'm trying to say is that it's a combination of opportunities, luck, and a lifetime of dedication. So, it's important not to compare yourself to others, guys.
As someone who saw them at Rockville they sound phenomenal especially Eloy
We Brazilians are thrilled by Eloy's achievement
I can’t wait to hear what he comes up with on new tracks. The dude hits hard a f***!
Joey, awesome
Jay, good
Eloy, amazing
All well said Tank. Keeping solid tempos without a click is one of the hardest things you can do as a drummer. Using a metronome app to start off a song is an excellent way of doing it without forcing click on a band that doesn't want it. Eloy's is almost superhuman at keeping a steady tempo while also playing intricately and hard AF.
Eloy's technical ability aswell as Jay's are undeniable and it's pointless even arguing the fact. But watch them play a gig, Jay never matched Joey's presence and now we have Eloy. Just watch his covers of Slipknot from a few years back, he was made for that seat. Aggression, passion, talent and completely humble with it. No wonder he has lit a fire under other members of the band, he is why we all became fans of them in the first place.
Watching this and bringing up the business side of a band, it reminds me of the drama even hip hop greats Wu Tang Clan have had over the years. You also bring up personalities and speed. A few things that come to mind regarding Jay is that yes, he played super fast. I read somewhere it's possible that Jay was probably hard to keep up with in the studio. When watching the live performance at Pioneer town, Eloy played hard, but not fast and the band sounded like their old selves, which was refreshing. Also, there was an interview where Jim Root mentions 1) There was no other choice but Eloy, 2) Eloy and VMan know each other from before 3) Eloy called Slipknot regarding the position 4) It feels like they're blaming Jay for the last album not being a hit.
Joey is happy 🖤🙏
I might be mistaken, but I believe Eloy was also taught by Aquiles Priester.
There is an amazing video from 2011 of them doing a drum duet together at the Musician's Institute that is absolutely insane!
I just hope we get more 🔥🔥🔥 slipknot albums. If Eloy’s drumming helps with that, than that a bonus to all slipknot fans
by those Slipknot live videos with Eloy on YT, i can definitely say he’s playing without metronome, there’s some tempo movements in certain spots which makes those songs more live
Eloy is an amazing drummer. I wish that I could do anything in life as well as he could play the drums at 14 years old. He is absolutely going to help make Slipknot better and better.
several influential drummers say that he is the best, not in the history of metal as a whole, but in the current history for at least 4 years. the best of its generation. It is relevant to many who play the instrument at a technical level, most people weren't aware of this because it was at a niche level, but slipknot shines a light on what has been true for some time now and that's why it's in the band.
At my old job in 2012 I was filming an interview with Sepultura in Wacken in which they talked about their new drummer. I remember thinking "crazy, that guy is my age!".
Now I'm watching your video thinking "crazy, that guy is my age, reminds me of Sepultura" only to realize it's the same guy!? haha
I saw Eloy several times with Sepultura, he is a truly amazing drummer and person. anyone complaining should experience him first
Just saw slipknot last night. Eloy is fckn amazing! They sounded so tight
Eloy is the bomb,killer in slipknot,he sounds great.
Eloy is an incredible drummer and musician. He hits with a ton of power, precision, groove and tons of creativity. Very unique, and extremely consistent. He really is a world class drummer
Check out his work on Casagrande & Hanysz as well as Sepultura
Eloy is a fucking BEAST, amazing drummer.
Have you seen the Blue ridge statement last week ? :P i was waiting for another rant on it. PS: you were right
I think Eloy is amazing as is any of the past knot drummers. Whatever the choice is for the rest of the band members I hope it works fir what they want or need. But, Eloy is freakin amazing. Im gonna miss him in Sepultura. Thanks for the vids. Keep up the good work.
I LOVE ELOY
I am really excited for Slipknot. I absolutely think we are gonna get some heavy new music with him in the band.
Quadra, the last and latest album from Sepultura, that unfortunately came out the day before the Covid 19 pandemic Exploded, is built around Eloy’s drum tracks. And it sounds AMAZING. I can’t wait to hear what He can do with Slipknot. And I am really curious to hear if Sep new drummer can actually play Eloy’s drum parts as Eloy does (they are extremely complex, even for Him. If anyone watches the “making of” Quadra videos, He showcases how hard it was for him to “learn” them. Or watch a drum-cam of “Means to an End”… on UA-cam!
Loved his drumming with Iahweh..end of sacrifice was sooo groovy