“State-Building & Non-State Armed Actors in Somalia,” with Ken Menkhaus
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2015
- Davidson College Professor of Political Science Ken Menkhaus discusses his recent research on Somalia; the efforts to build a stable state in this troubled Horn of Africa country, despite ongoing conflict; how the “commodification of security sector work” challenges state-building; and the connection between security and development.
My name is Mohamed Osman and I'm a Somali. I have watched many lectures about Somalia from Somalis and non Somalis alike. I have never seen someone that so accurately close nor so articulate in Somali politics than Mr. or Prof. Menkhaus. Well-done Sir. You almost nailed it except that you were there for nation building. I don't buy that and you now it.
Thank you,
Mohamed Abshir (Dhalac.)
Hello u still here
This lecture is focused on the sad reality in our country but we'll overcome regardless of how many non-state armed actors there is.
This is an excellent lecture. I am a life-time journalist, a South Sudanese, who was a refugee in Congo (DRC), Tanzania, Zambia, Ireland and UK. I travelled to Somalia as an aid journalist for the first time in 1982 to Mogadishu and to Hargeisa. I spent quite a lot of time in early 1990s in and out of Mogadishu and Baidoa. My experiences in Somalia and many of the African countries mentioned in the lecture, are recorded in my book "Burden of Nationality - Memoirs of an African Aidworker Journalist 1970-1990s By Jacob J. Akol, available on Amazon Kindle. Ken Menkhaus is truly an expert in these situations. I wished more of my South Sudanese leaders listen to him and of course take steps to avoid total Somalia.
Jacob Akol if you have been a journalist that long and you don’t know how the West deceives and destroy nations from within while hiding their hands you truly failed in life! Now pay attention and research how the West plots and destroys nations from within and without and write a book about it!
Can plz assist us your book as soft copy, currently I'm in South Sudan juba, as business man. As I have seen u r South Sudan. I wish u wll reply me
@@sareeyemanusqaame8723 There's no Somali unity ,that's dead killed by siyad Barre ragime and the only ones crying about somali nationalism are those who destroyed it in the first place,viva Somaliland.
@@mahamedaden7237Nacaas, “viva somaliland” not comprehending you’re just adding on to the division of your own people.
He was informed well, and all his assessments were based on daily facts, no one could understood the complexity, but now situation is becoming better with many unsolved challenges...
Thank you
There is no difference between the North and the South, Tribalism also exists in the North, Two of the reasons why Northern Somalia (Somaliland/Puntland ) is safe is because
1-Terrorist are not interested in the North because most of the wealth, Resources,Farming land, Etc.. are in the South
2- There is no recognition thus there is nothing to fight over but if the international community decides to recognize those regions it will trigger a war among northern clans and that will create the same situation we have in Southern Somalia.
I'm from northern Somalia and i believe that Somalia is recovering just a few days ago a man loved by all Somalis took the office (Farmaajo) Somalis are wakening up we are on the right path to rebuild this nation
Hate the haters
Puntland is not nothern
That is how Goats sound when they start to show thinking face.
Hate the haters Time will tell that's all I will say to you about this new guy in office, second thing is Somaliland has much more than know, even though you side you are from Somaliland but I doubt that very much, last but not least Somaliland and Somalia are two different countries so get your head.
Hate nd haters
Make u fact right... as u name tell us u are hater so where all somalia natural resources are in Somaliland
totally agree the professor's lecture..hope one day we overcome our problems..thanks
sorry but I'd rather you watch the video yourself...by the way,you ever get tired of spreading hatred and negative things on every video regarding somalia...I wonder how a person could be full of hatred especially to a whole nation
Thank you Professor Ken for your findings. I really enjoyed watching this whole clip & learnt a lot. Inshaa Allah Somalia will recover the current bad situation they are in today. The future is bright for Somalia & Somalis !
+Jon Snow
I know how you feel; but you have to realize other people built their peace if we don't who will do it for us. If we all behave like cowards who will be there to stand for us to stand for civilization over barbarism.
Mohamed Farah I don’t know why you thanked this guy all somali problems stem from Western plots and he’s a Westerner. You should always view any Westerner with a suspicion.
Hanunie Hanujie i Will never forget the Berlin conference and a lot of what this man mentioned are not true.
Which book by Charles tilly is he referring to?
I listened to Ken Menkhaus presentation for the first time in 1992 at Wilfrid Laurier University. He never failed to impress me in understanding of the cultural and political dynamics of the Somali Problem and promise. Thanks to him for staying engaged.
How i can get this article or script plz?
Mr Ken is professional regarding horn East Africa, he was researched long time about more documentary sutation in somalia after in 30 yrs
Such as clans ,culturales in somalia
Somalia now and Somalia 4 years Ago tremendous progress think what we will achieve the next 4 years we are going our own path and we will regain our Honor once again Somalia hanoolato 💯🇸🇴💯🤙
now things are better tan ever before
So complicated
KKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKLLLKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKLKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. SOMALIA PEOPLE THEY SPEAKING 250 LANGUAGES AROUND THE WOLD.AND THEY ARE BRAVE PEOPLE THAT IS LIKE TOO
Shockingly True. Thank you Prof.
I hope to see my home to great home 🏡
Commoditization of security
28:22
Mr (or otherwise) Gabiley Boss dream on.
Love you Somalia 🇸🇴 ❤️❤️
You when the to 80 and the counter celebs 90 good job
So sad 😞 and disgusted at the sometime
for all of the trolls of so-called Somaliland, this talk is about “State-Building & Non-State Armed Actors in Somalia.” For little advise to die-heart "Somalilanders" or Isaaqlanders, make peace with non-Isaaq clan and be inclusive. May be then and only then may you be able to make a case.
am sorry to say these...u r idiot........
Yas Mo you put Isaqlanders in their place Gudoomiye lmao. I was born and raised in Waqooyi Galbeed, my mother is a Hargeisa native and a diehard secessionist and I belong to the non-isaq tribes of the north (the silent majority.. to make a long story short reer abtigeey waxay rabaan ineey Dawlad noqdaan oo caalamka ka dhiidhiciyaa ineey Democracy ku dhaqmaan, hadana xisbiyadoodi oo dhan hal beel bay kasoo wada jeedaan.
Couldn't agree more! Qabiil qaran walee noqon waa!
*Your not a realist imagine a girl who begs a man raping her to be civil and act civility towards her these separatists are idea logs, ardent idea logs; they will never change by begging them they must be told or else.*
Yas mo
Your English 😊 hope it you go bck to school
So far I see that you have not yet learned from us #somalia
It’s the neighboring countries fueling arms into Somalia for 30 years because they occupy parts of Somalia handed to them by England. Ethiopia and Kenya invaded Somalia and are still in the mainland 2022
Mayor Chicago has innovated Borama, North Somalia
Mogdisho fasts growing city in africa and somalia rubilng magically 2021sfter 5 years everything You teach this student was lie lats com back again inshallah 2026 more 5 Years again
Europe and Amarica and Arabic stats spend 💰 I can imagine bout what thurky did in somalia everyone can see
😅🤣😅😈🇸🇴Funy. How this master ches players like somalia Not easy. This guys are great i love them. Hahaha ❤ black mafia of east africa. Oohhh lord wat a comomuntery
First state destruction
second state building
you dont need talk about us with arab problem becauce we dont have the the problem they have..and somalia is not like arab countres..sooo many country become strong when somali become down and we know those its is.. if they dont want to remember thers histori soo is best for you Don't talk about somalia..
Somaliland should have been recognised. It has clearly dissolved its Union a long time and ago. Instead it’s diaspora are not able to get a return on the loss to theirs and their families. They were badly in need of infrastructure and water management. More so the Somalia who has at least two rivers and all that money previously poured into it. Why ignore a strategic water way. Maybe for the lucrative criminal activity such as piracy and plunging of their seas from fish. Somaliland has been robbed and continues to be robbed. It’s obvious the disputed area didn’t have oil nor does puntland which were both explored to no avail. Keeping Somaliland in limbo is solely so that it can continue to be plundered from its resources. Keeping Somalis in poverty so UN and AU can make money as well EU to keep it weak. We are owed 20 years of lack of investment and barriers to entry.
Long live Somalia
Lol, Farah Abdul😂.why are you so angry about the fact if he mentioned the deference between the Southerner and Northern part of Somalia.
Without exaggeration, he explained you're topic in a logical way. He said " The Northern regions of Somalia was ignored financially in 1970s and 80s by the Government of Siyad and the economy of the country was in the south, after the civil war the northern regions did not had land disputes as the south, that's why it's safer than the south today".
that is not right he's definitely lying
Farah Abdul 90 miyàd wax Ku fahamtaa aan kula kaftamee
SK Agent isaaq tribe isn’t any different from any other somali tribe! You guys aren’t special you fight and kill each other like any other tribe in Somalia and when you fight and fail to solve your problems darood elders from “puntland” mediate and put peace between yourselves.
@@sareeyemanusqaame8723 Lmfao
@@sareeyemanusqaame8723 Nacala Majeerteen kuyaal halamash Naagoodle
So sorry to watch, Dr Ken,your lecture, after money years ,when you addressed, the Maxwell School,,,, first of all, at some stage ,,your reports about security, matters,, humanitarian situation, and,social value might be a right one,,referring your reading the post colonial and military regime,,,Mr Ken,you didn't mentioned, for entire Somali's political, social economic, and,security situation,, you paid a lot of time ,explanation, for ALSHABAAB group,,,, and in the West, you see a big non state factors,, and regard them that they can disturb every positive efforts which can help Somalia's recovery,, Mr Ken,,I'm Somali Sufi,from central part of Somalia,,quite Senior consultant for international relations,,, at the time,they Alshabaab, were the biggest power in Somalia,,,they attacked us, in the central parts of nation,, we organized ourselves, without support from internal or external actors,,, we paid heavy Price, only some Somalia's neighbours, offered us,,Ammo,,others were marginalizing, like TFG,,,,transitional federal government,, bcz,,,,Wahabis, were dominant in TFG national Assembly,, they were not going to see Sufi's to integrate, transitional institutions,,, we did every effort, or compromise, to bridge the gap with our government,,, bcz we were bleeding,,, and losing our men,our property,,,,, I'm sorry to say Mr Ken,your government wasn't well understood,, the reality of the ground,,,, KEN,,we mustn't forget,Somalia was the Sufi predominant Muslim country,,, it was only 1980ths,, when Saudis imported for us uncompromising hatred preachers of Wahabis,,,the fundamental problem we have today,is this preachers of hatred,, who can't integrate other sects,in this comment I can't summarize every aspect of current situation in Somalia,,, it was better for me ,,to get you and this prestigious students in Maxwell School,,, in order to share common robust debates,, about my mother country,,,, one more thing I'm very satisfied to day,, the Sufi's, or AWJM, have well integrated in Somalia's federal government institutions,,, we govern, in our provincial administration, we abandoned as a non state factors,,, we become part of federal government,,, thanks for Allah,,,,
You’re 100% percent correct it’s time to give the power to the original Somali Bantu people and see see how they will ran the country as they do so the rest of Africa thank you
Thanks for excellent lecture. I am s Somali who is worried about Ethiopia building dams on Shabelle and Jubba rivers of Somalia. I think it will be good idea to give Ethiopia some ports in Somalia in exchange for not building dams on these vital rivers. At least we have resources with which we can use to make sure we don’t loose the rivers.
the horror. this talk shocked the hell out of me. so people like this really do exist.
+zeena run hhh well alot of things do exist these days and we are one of it..somalia
I'm not shocked at the somalis, it's this gaal and his arrogance like we somalis are just some game or talking points to these monsters these people have ruined Africa right in front of our eyes.
well we allowed them cause we support stupid guy from your qabiil and may qabiil who dont know if we excist or not and for the sake of live i dont care gaal or muslin to me they all are stupid organization that one guy dreamed off by calling him self the good guy who will hepl u to smooth dating with god/macbuud
lets work our ass of live free and peace
+Azeena Na
Somaali qog ii aydaynkaraan ma jirto ayaga uun ma ahanee. Ayagaa xoolo iska dhigay sidee bay uu xanaqaan hadu hadba qof ugarsado?
Waryaa Heedheh The western world are behind the most problems in Somali. They started their plan according to the Berlin conference when they meet to discuss Africans future. dividing the African continent between European colonial powers in the second half of the 19th century. The division began and that is what characterizes Africa's political map even today, after the last unexplored regions were mapped and the value of the continent's natural riches made clear to Europeans. they have many methods that they hide but the truth always comes out
Nacalaa idinku taal, walle dhulkeena in loo istaago dadkiisa gaal a u ogolaan iyo company nooyimaad noodhio anaga xamarka lo'da kudhisana laqaatey hanoo banaanaado dhulka
You can tolk everything you want can but Somali don't need state build Somali is a big country and big nation
I think the solution here is that , it would be batter for all Somali if we become like the European Union , we unati but Somaliland , puntland, and rest of Somalia can each have there own authority over there land but they can have free trade and free flow of people , in that way we can have the core Somali traditional way , but the economy is self govern.
Abdi Asiis Ali state -country union ?
They know they can't win so they have to play dirty, anyway no one win in the land of Somalia.
This is not a helping Somalia in United Nation this is a fight of Faith Somalia and United Nation are you are you not in any state is want to take away our land 🇸🇴💯🇸🇴💯❤
We have been fighting each other since Cain killed Abel in a place called Geriyaat, that is where the Somali word geeryoodey comes from. Our DNA is EB1B1 M25, we East Africans and our Berber Brothers carry the highest percentage of this Gene. Everyone who Have this DNA is just ready to concur and devide. Hitler Had this DNA So as Majority of Eastern Balkan regions State's who are Also fighting each other Like East Africans. We East Africans Gave birth to Majority of Humanity around the Globe, but few Corupt nations lied to Us and said we are Arabs, as we know now Arabs and their Brothers Semitic jews DNA is J1, except our Hamitic Eastern Ashkenazi jews who share Same Gene EB1B1. Hitler was Ashkenazi Jew, that's why he shares Same DNA with Somalis, and Ethiopian people, As he is decended from Greeks, who also Are EB1B1 Hamitic family. I am proud of my Hamitic Cushitic Genome, but hate how any chance of peace for any nations carrying this Gene to agree on anything for a long terms is Slim to None. Hopefully the mass Exodus and intermarriage with other Genomes will calm the hell us down, and start building a better tomorrow for our future Hamitic Race.
T-M70 is the other haplogroup
Wel wel wel my Brother 5 i understand i hoop to
Somalia 🇸🇴 tan aya bahdil inagu filan ileen mesha hal somali mafadiyo 🇸🇴🇸🇴😩
Maya waa jamacad dad wax kabaranaayo
Bla bla bla bla
Professor Ken Menkhaus is an accomplished academic and political commentator. I commend for his in-depth analysis of the Ex-Italian Colony Somalia which he specialises in. Unforunately, the Professor from the outset seems to be not very knowledgeable with regards to Ex British Protectorate Somaliland. From his very brief comments regarding Somaliland he comes out as someone who has a very limited understanding of the history of Somaliland both recent and historic. For instance, he dismisses the enormous efforts that the Somaliland people both armed groups and civilians to disarm the people and create a working functioning state from the ashes of the civilwar.
Can I make it clear, in 1991 the largest and the most established with the most armour and fire power of all the armed opposition groups to the Siyad Barre regime was the Somali National Movement (SNM) which operated from 1981 til 1991 as the most effect fighting force anywhere in Africa. Siyad Barre as the Professor rightly asserted commanded the biggest armed forces in Africa in the 1980s. Siyad Barre like any other dictator (such that of recent deposed Libyan Dictator) surrounded himself with his family members whose role were to terrorise and kill in order to prolong his regime. Similarly, Siyad deployed the majority of his fighting forces to the north in order to destroy and eliminate the treats posed by the SNM and to anyone that supported them. Siyad Barre ordered his close family member and son in law General Morgan for the task.
The USC and other opposition groups that took arms in 1990s did not face a lot of resistance before they stormed the President Palace. Perhaps this was one of the reasons why so many foreigners were not prepared when that occurred. In the eyes of the Somali people, this was not unexpected. Since Siyad Barre placed the majority of his army in the North and the surprise offensive in the South caught his army by surprise. This was the reason why Siyad Barre had to recall his Son in Law and other senior army officers from the north. But it was too late.
My point is, the people of the South specialy the Hawiye did not have enough time to create an identify. Their surprise offensive which won them Mogadishu was very quick. And when Siyad Barre was ousted, they turned the gun on each other. The north however, the 10 year of bitter war with Siyad Barre created a sense of identity and unity which helped them to start peace and negotiations with other clans. That was not the case in the South.
+Somaliland United As you admitted this it in-depth analysis of the non-state actors in Somalia (South Somalia). Your dissatisfaction seems his lack of interest in your little secessionist campaign. Here, the academic was focusing only on the non-state actors (spoilers) in the south of the country and namely in the capital. As for Somaliland, I think he even exaggerated the state of peace and democracy in there. I am from the north, namely in Togdher region and we all know the so-called democracy in there is just a mere show for the foreign donors. What you have is pure tribal madness that is not even ready to look beyond their narrow tribal mindset. As someone from the north, I would like to see an inclusive system that welcomes all sides of the northern people.
@@dahirm45 well said.! Isaac literally bullies every other clan that doesn’t inline with them.! Welcome to North
@@tonyjaahcc he didn't say which clan he was. How do you know?
@@omar7396 it’s the truth , there the majority and the only clan in power. Wake up and smell the coffee… there’s literally videos of issaq police officer fuckin people up for holding a Somali flag. Absolutely pathetic
Ninkaan wacel ka waa wadan hoobtey aan jirin ayuu leeyahay nacalaa kugu taal,,,
Wtf you are terrorists
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no no noo please 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But also Ethiopia should not use river to allow Somalia food dry. As they becoming closer that may but Somalis bad feeling . Also Ethiopia has more rivers to use for electricity’s.At some time they want to sell the electricity to Somalia.
SOMALILAND Somaliland 💚❤
Viva Somaliland
Iidoor-Land or Zoomaali-Land is not existing.
Day dreamer.
Oh my Goodness Somalia is so messed up. I'm ashamed to be Somali but luckily my mother and father came from Somaliland and Puntland respectively. The Southern parts are beyond help
Bounty Adams am from puntland but living in USA. where you at
Bounty Adams.coz Isaaq baa ku dhaley .gaalna wa tahey.Aniga wa ku farax sanahey ina Somali ahey Alhamdulilah. n. Islaam is my❤❤❤ life🔫
Qalbi Wax jecek yep me too. I am Somalia as well you clown.
*The only solution is to move the capital. Mogadishu is holding all of Somalia back it cannot remain the capital any longer.*
Why you acting like Somali I'm 💯 sure you are not you are fucking Ethiopian, Somali will never hate them self
I believe that Somalia should be divided into Somaliland (Isaaq) Puntland (Majerteen) and the territories of Hawiye should be govern by Hawiye and make a regional government like Somaliland and Puntland.Amisom should withdraw and Hawiye should do the fighting against alshabab without AMISOM or other nations involved.Al shabab will be defeated as they will not have any reason to fight Hawiye and it will become more dangerous for them as people will turn against them.Now they say yes these invaders are killing our people and we should fight them.
You liar..fisrt unstate is jews
"Amisom is trying to keep Peace in south Somalia where is no peace to keep.
"
Failure state for last 30 years, be ready an other 30 years for wasting Western Taxpayers Money.
First visit somali after tolk about them
Somalia is not the Somali you used to know
Forget past Somali with somali present
Indeed you will know details about Somalia
Reality you will surprise that mannar
This guy had said nothing about the historical difference between Somaliland and Somalia, this two countries have been under two different colonial powers for at least 76 years completely different styles of governing and I don't know why he's whitewashing Somaliland under this new federal system created by the Western nations within the last 10 years. International money is the problem in Somalia get out and let somalia handle their affairs , Western governments created it Al-Shabab that's why he does not want to go into a detail, just the way Isis was created by the United States government and some Middle Eastern nations that's undeniable.
+Farah Abdul i am surprised you are accusing the man of not knowing historical difference between the south and the north of somalia .
+Mo Mo. He knows the storical differences but, he seems to be ignoring the fact that those two states are completely different Nations
Farah Abdul have you watched the whole clip? watch from minute 39 to 42
+Mo Mo . that's the Q&A session he completely ignored Somaliland in his speech
+Mo Mo. what domino effect he's talking about how about in the case of South Sudan.
Solution.. Recognize Somaliland as independent
Country.