Penrith have changed the game in more ways than one. From individual positions, to connection with area, to commitment to club and self. I could go on about it for hours
Another remarkable achievement of the Panthers over the past 5 years is that they have conquered the Blacktown area which used to be firm Eels territory. As someone that lives in the area, I have not seen anyone wearing Eels merch in a long time. The Panthers are now very popular particularly with young people, and I believe this also may be influenced by the fact that several Panthers players went to school in Patrician Brothers College which is in Blacktown.
For sure - and to some extent that’s a failing from the eels as much as it is a success for the Panthers. The panthers are like… really cool. The branding, the players, the personalities. That really appeals to particularly the younger generation. The Eels could be that. They’re the ones with the shiny new stadium. But they just… really aren’t
There was a story brought up after the gf win that I thought reflected their mindset on their brilliant run these 4 years. 2 days after the 2020 gf lost, James Fisher-Harris was already back in the gym, already having his mindset on winning the next gf the following year. After the other players on the roster saw this, the gradually joined up with him and eventually the whole team was training. There is usually a one week break a year for nrl players and that is usually after the gf is finished, but this team disregarded that and went back to training straight away. The commitment and mindset the panthers put themselves to is one of the many reason why they have been so successful and didn’t end up like the broncos this year. Like you said, we will one day reflect on the days that such a dominant side not only be the most successful side in the modern era, but be an example of what a team, a structure and a development system should be.
For some reason I’ve always kinda liked Penrith despite how dominant they’ve been. As a tigers fan it’s been nice to get 2 wins against them in this dynasty era.But hopefully the tigers one day can be the best western Sydney cat
My ideal situation for Rugby League would be both clubs being powerhouses. The youth of Penrith v the youth of Campbelltown. That rivalry between the big cats has the potential to be enormous
Panthers fan here, and I'd be really pleased to see the Tigers climb the ladder in the next few years. The doggies did it this year, so maybe '25 or '26 for the Tigez.
I think it's because unlike the Roosters who buy their premierships they mostly developed their own talent from the Penrith area, like the Knights did in the late 90s/early 2000s. They have lost a lot of players to other clubs but they just keep developing more, and with some of them playing together since they were teenagers you can feel how close they are as team mates rather than the cold, well oiled machine of a Melbourne Storm.
Great episode breaking down exactly how the Panthers did it and how they now have the blueprint for NRL success. In terms of whether they are the greatest ever team, it’s very hard to mount an argument against this. The legendary Dragons sides played in a much smaller ten team comp with unlimited tackles and no salary cap! Panthers have done the impossible in a National competition of 17 full time professional players and teams with highly paid coaches payed vast sums to win! Would they have beaten the great Parramatta, Broncos, Raiders teams who went on winning runs also? Yes they would.! This Panthers team has a level of fitness, discipline, strategy and game management that would nullify any of those teams of the past. Just look what they did to the Minor Premiers Storm in the biggest game of the year with their elite attacking spine! They are the greatest team in the history of the NRL and they have the rings to back that statement up! For the record, I’m not a Panthers supporter but I recognise brilliance when I see it. This club is the Dream Team of the NRL and we are witnessing history. !
We are most definitely witnessing history. At bare minimum, I’m prepared to say that they’re the best team in the salary cap era. It’s been a remarkable effort
Great video again. Can’t wait for your takes on the (no) try situation. I mean, in the modern era, there is little discussion to be had I reckon. Of course, it is hard to compare this team and era with earlier teams. The Dragons mastered an 11peat. But the game and context was completely different back than. No limited tackles and outside 10, penalty and field goals were relatively more valuable in terms of points and therefore a more frequent option. The scrum was still highly contested. And besides that, of course no equalisation measures such as the Salary Cap were in place. Panthers remind me of Guardiola’s Barcelona or the modern KC Chiefs in the NFL. Brilliant individual talent but it is their game plan, tactics, organisation and style of football that make them superior. The confidence they play with is enormous because of that.
Guardiola’s barca are a really good comparison. In fact, so are his Man City I feel. They’re not teams who have the goal of winning - they’re teams who have the expectation of winning. To do anything less is to let themselves and each other down.
Back when you were only about 1 year old, when the Pan-ferz won the 2003 premiership, I remember the talk being essentially about their "system". That the still mostly youthful team had come through the grades together, sweeping all before them, to the point that winning was just what happened for the most part. It obviously didn't last back then. I'm in awe of how it's all working now. It was definitely not a pretty grand final, but holy moly it was effective. It's a shame about the extra tonal shift that's out there regarding a few of the decisions which are being called controversial. Not sure Turuva grounded the ball for his try, and I'm hazy on the rule regarding Sorenson's catch over the sideline (with his foot being raised). I look forward to your take on the no-try ruling.
Don't mistake dying with the ball on 5th inside the storm 10 as a bad last play. Its almost better than the drop out these days. Penrith are happy to do that all day. Gave the storm the ball right where they wanted them to have it.
That’s a very fair comment, especially in the context of the new drop out rule. I got the sense though that a lot of those fifth tackle options in attack were just throwing the ball around hoping for something to click. Could well have been as you say though
@@TheLeaguie Yeah it's a fair point, I would say Penrith have always had a bit of that in their game it's not all set plays. And credit to storm as they defended well for large parts of the game! I've watched most of Penrith games during this era, and they have always had that sort of park footy approach, which can get messy and chaotic, sometimes it doesn't come off, but then again sometimes it leads to magic, Luai switching the ball back to the other side of the ruck for Cleary to put Martin in looked pretty off the cuff right on half time. Luai in particular is great at that unstructured football, he just starts crabbing and changing directions, committing players to come forward to try and tackle him, this with the offloads and constantly turning players under, just works the opposition middles so hard over 80 minutes. Even when it ends in a ugly last play, they have still won field position a lot of the time and the opposition is about to hate getting out of their 10. It's got to be so demoralising. I love watching this team, to me it's like Dutch total football! they are so good at it!
@@AzzaT90 Dutch total football is a really good comparison! And honestly, they’ve reinvented the game in the same way the Dutch did back in the day. Super physical outside backs, meaning the big forwards can just focus on defence. Super effective
Losing a couple of 'marquee' players each year is almost a blessing in disguise. It forces Penrith to tweak their game to the new incoming players' strengths and this in turn makes them less predictable and teams have to again work out how to beat them. We lose Luai, Fisher-Harris and Turuva this year, but get Isaiah Papa'li'i and Blaize Talagi who have big potential.
That’s a good point. Both of those incoming players are very interesting to me. Will Papalii prove he wasn’t just a two-season wonder at the Eels? Will Talagi be ready to step up and be a five eighth capable of competing for a premiership? This to me genuinely is the biggest departure toll you’ve suffered so far. But there’s no chance I’m going to doubt your ability to get through it
Started watching nrl at about 13 in 2021... still yet to see a premiership team that isn't Penrith. I respect the greatness they've achieved but I'm really getting sick of them winning Grand Finals.
Stick with it! You definitely came at a bit of a trying time, but it’s the most thrilling competition in the world when you don’t have a team as dominant as this
BAD NEWS FOR JAROME LUAI ! FROM NEXT YEAR HIS TEAM WILL GO DOWN AND HE WILL GO DOWN AND DISAPPEAR FROM THE NEWS LIKE ALL OTHER PLAYERS THAT LEFT THE CHAMPION. SO ONLY BRIAN TO’O WILL SEE HIS HANDSOME FACE NEXT YEAR WITH THE CHAMPIONS 2025 !!!!
I wouldnt be surprised if he comes back to the Panthers but keep in mind Nathan's younger brother will come to the Panthers very soon and it could be brothers side by side lining up half back and five eight. No ones talking about his brother or even thought about it, watch this space
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‘The Impossible’ is a really good way to put it. You would’ve been laughed out of the room for suggesting this was possible coming into 2020
Best believe there’ll be clubs across the league trying to emulate the youth systems they’ve built over there
Wow the beautiful game has changed a lot in the last decade 4 TIMES HOW great video leaguie
Penrith have changed the game in more ways than one. From individual positions, to connection with area, to commitment to club and self. I could go on about it for hours
Another remarkable achievement of the Panthers over the past 5 years is that they have conquered the Blacktown area which used to be firm Eels territory. As someone that lives in the area, I have not seen anyone wearing Eels merch in a long time. The Panthers are now very popular particularly with young people, and I believe this also may be influenced by the fact that several Panthers players went to school in Patrician Brothers College which is in Blacktown.
For sure - and to some extent that’s a failing from the eels as much as it is a success for the Panthers. The panthers are like… really cool. The branding, the players, the personalities. That really appeals to particularly the younger generation.
The Eels could be that. They’re the ones with the shiny new stadium. But they just… really aren’t
There was a story brought up after the gf win that I thought reflected their mindset on their brilliant run these 4 years.
2 days after the 2020 gf lost, James Fisher-Harris was already back in the gym, already having his mindset on winning the next gf the following year. After the other players on the roster saw this, the gradually joined up with him and eventually the whole team was training.
There is usually a one week break a year for nrl players and that is usually after the gf is finished, but this team disregarded that and went back to training straight away.
The commitment and mindset the panthers put themselves to is one of the many reason why they have been so successful and didn’t end up like the broncos this year. Like you said, we will one day reflect on the days that such a dominant side not only be the most successful side in the modern era, but be an example of what a team, a structure and a development system should be.
Very well said - I didn’t know that story. That’s unreal stuff. It demonstrates the hunger and desire to just keep going, no matter what
Well done my friend.....you're spot on
Thanks mate, always nice to read something like that 🫡
Love the vids mate
Excellent insights and analysis. Articulate too. A rare attribute in League circles.
Rugby League needs a bit more of those things I reckon!
@@TheLeaguie 👍
For some reason I’ve always kinda liked Penrith despite how dominant they’ve been. As a tigers fan it’s been nice to get 2 wins against them in this dynasty era.But hopefully the tigers one day can be the best western Sydney cat
My ideal situation for Rugby League would be both clubs being powerhouses. The youth of Penrith v the youth of Campbelltown. That rivalry between the big cats has the potential to be enormous
@@TheLeaguie At least we would have a proper rival if that were the case
Panthers fan here, and I'd be really pleased to see the Tigers climb the ladder in the next few years. The doggies did it this year, so maybe '25 or '26 for the Tigez.
I think it's because unlike the Roosters who buy their premierships they mostly developed their own talent from the Penrith area, like the Knights did in the late 90s/early 2000s. They have lost a lot of players to other clubs but they just keep developing more, and with some of them playing together since they were teenagers you can feel how close they are as team mates rather than the cold, well oiled machine of a Melbourne Storm.
One of those wins was against a very depleted Panthers side.
Great episode breaking down exactly how the Panthers did it and how they now have the blueprint for NRL success.
In terms of whether they are the greatest ever team, it’s very hard to mount an argument against this. The legendary Dragons sides played in a much smaller ten team comp with unlimited tackles and no salary cap! Panthers have done the impossible in a National competition of 17 full time professional players and teams with highly paid coaches payed vast sums to win!
Would they have beaten the great Parramatta, Broncos, Raiders teams who went on winning runs also? Yes they would.! This Panthers team has a level of fitness, discipline, strategy and game management that would nullify any of those teams of the past. Just look what they did to the Minor Premiers Storm in the biggest game of the year with their elite attacking spine!
They are the greatest team in the history of the NRL and they have the rings to back that statement up!
For the record, I’m not a Panthers supporter but I recognise brilliance when I see it. This club is the Dream Team of the NRL and we are witnessing history. !
We are most definitely witnessing history. At bare minimum, I’m prepared to say that they’re the best team in the salary cap era. It’s been a remarkable effort
Great video again. Can’t wait for your takes on the (no) try situation.
I mean, in the modern era, there is little discussion to be had I reckon. Of course, it is hard to compare this team and era with earlier teams. The Dragons mastered an 11peat. But the game and context was completely different back than. No limited tackles and outside 10, penalty and field goals were relatively more valuable in terms of points and therefore a more frequent option. The scrum was still highly contested. And besides that, of course no equalisation measures such as the Salary Cap were in place.
Panthers remind me of Guardiola’s Barcelona or the modern KC Chiefs in the NFL. Brilliant individual talent but it is their game plan, tactics, organisation and style of football that make them superior. The confidence they play with is enormous because of that.
Guardiola’s barca are a really good comparison. In fact, so are his Man City I feel. They’re not teams who have the goal of winning - they’re teams who have the expectation of winning. To do anything less is to let themselves and each other down.
Back when you were only about 1 year old, when the Pan-ferz won the 2003 premiership, I remember the talk being essentially about their "system". That the still mostly youthful team had come through the grades together, sweeping all before them, to the point that winning was just what happened for the most part. It obviously didn't last back then. I'm in awe of how it's all working now. It was definitely not a pretty grand final, but holy moly it was effective. It's a shame about the extra tonal shift that's out there regarding a few of the decisions which are being called controversial. Not sure Turuva grounded the ball for his try, and I'm hazy on the rule regarding Sorenson's catch over the sideline (with his foot being raised). I look forward to your take on the no-try ruling.
The greatest team ever. ❤😊🎉
They will win at least the next 2 grand finals
Don't mistake dying with the ball on 5th inside the storm 10 as a bad last play. Its almost better than the drop out these days. Penrith are happy to do that all day. Gave the storm the ball right where they wanted them to have it.
That’s a very fair comment, especially in the context of the new drop out rule. I got the sense though that a lot of those fifth tackle options in attack were just throwing the ball around hoping for something to click. Could well have been as you say though
@@TheLeaguie Yeah it's a fair point, I would say Penrith have always had a bit of that in their game it's not all set plays. And credit to storm as they defended well for large parts of the game! I've watched most of Penrith games during this era, and they have always had that sort of park footy approach, which can get messy and chaotic, sometimes it doesn't come off, but then again sometimes it leads to magic, Luai switching the ball back to the other side of the ruck for Cleary to put Martin in looked pretty off the cuff right on half time. Luai in particular is great at that unstructured football, he just starts crabbing and changing directions, committing players to come forward to try and tackle him, this with the offloads and constantly turning players under, just works the opposition middles so hard over 80 minutes. Even when it ends in a ugly last play, they have still won field position a lot of the time and the opposition is about to hate getting out of their 10. It's got to be so demoralising. I love watching this team, to me it's like Dutch total football! they are so good at it!
@@AzzaT90 Dutch total football is a really good comparison! And honestly, they’ve reinvented the game in the same way the Dutch did back in the day. Super physical outside backs, meaning the big forwards can just focus on defence. Super effective
Losing a couple of 'marquee' players each year is almost a blessing in disguise. It forces Penrith to tweak their game to the new incoming players' strengths and this in turn makes them less predictable and teams have to again work out how to beat them. We lose Luai, Fisher-Harris and Turuva this year, but get Isaiah Papa'li'i and Blaize Talagi who have big potential.
That’s a good point. Both of those incoming players are very interesting to me. Will Papalii prove he wasn’t just a two-season wonder at the Eels? Will Talagi be ready to step up and be a five eighth capable of competing for a premiership?
This to me genuinely is the biggest departure toll you’ve suffered so far. But there’s no chance I’m going to doubt your ability to get through it
yay 😁😁
Don't talk about 2020 NRL season
SWEET REVENGE.
Started watching nrl at about 13 in 2021... still yet to see a premiership team that isn't Penrith. I respect the greatness they've achieved but I'm really getting sick of them winning Grand Finals.
Stick with it! You definitely came at a bit of a trying time, but it’s the most thrilling competition in the world when you don’t have a team as dominant as this
@@TheLeaguie Just waiting for Manly's time at the GF 😂
Lol nrl is an absolute joke of a sport. No wonder why its a dying sport in Australia. Will always play second fiddle to the AFL
Thanks for boosting an NRL page’s video to boost its profile mate 💚
@@TheLeaguie no worries. I just disliked it and reported it too. Enjoy
@@mayling9799 Reported it for… what exactly? Thanks for contributing to society positively mate
@TheLeaguie no worries mate. You're welcome
What are you crapping about? It is gaining popularity you sore loser
Idiot The Roosters Back2Back
Your suit makes you look like MrBean 😂😂
Hell yeah! Mr Bean is a cultural icon. I’ll take that 🫡
You're pretty smart for a 22 year old.
Haha thank you! I try my best 💚
BAD NEWS FOR JAROME LUAI ! FROM NEXT YEAR HIS TEAM WILL GO DOWN AND HE WILL GO DOWN AND DISAPPEAR FROM THE NEWS LIKE ALL OTHER PLAYERS THAT LEFT THE CHAMPION.
SO ONLY BRIAN TO’O WILL SEE HIS HANDSOME FACE NEXT YEAR WITH THE CHAMPIONS 2025 !!!!
I wouldnt be surprised if he comes back to the Panthers but keep in mind Nathan's younger brother will come to the Panthers very soon and it could be brothers side by side lining up half back and five eight. No ones talking about his brother or even thought about it, watch this space