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I love the idea of the floor sweep collector. It might be a good idea to attach some magnets to collect old screws, nails, brads etc…. to avoid a collection bag puncture.
Been watching for years and I can definitively say that 4:36-4:43 is your best content youve ever put out. Great video as always. Thorough, inciteful, and not to heavy with technical jargon. Appreciate it as always. Keep it up.
Wow, Time flies. Four years have gone in a blink. Filling the inspection pit comes to mind as an early job. I've got pipes running around the ceiling all over the place for all my tools. Fortunately The extractor and cyclone etc. are outside under cover so no problem with the dust leakage or valuable space. I even have neighbours who are always asking for the shavings so no problem with the wheely bin I fill every few weeks. You answered the question as I was thinking it.. You have to have air movement. Fortunately you did not get left scratching your head wondering why it did not work. 🤔. One good thing I did many years ago was make blast gates. Those cheap plastic things are terrible and were forever getting clogged in the gate grooves. For a functional bit of kit, it looks very attractive so no worries there. I do hope you don't have any problems, and have to get in to fix things :😉
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Congrats on baby Brown! You'll find that you can sing pretty much any genre or song, if it's in a lullaby form. Vacuming the ceilig sounded good! I regularly sang Foo Fighter songs for my children to fall to sleep to. Well, sing... Nice project too btw! :-)
My current dust-extraction process is me opening the windows when I can no longer see properly and then hoping for a convenient breeze. I should probably update it a little...!
I solved a similar dust issue and used a 220l plastic barrel by making a connecting collar out of neoprene. It's flexible enough to create a perfect seal and allow easy removal of the barrel but tough enough to be durable. Plus it was very cheap. If you want more details just ask 😁
70 Quid?! That's bonkers. I guessed £60 at the most but was half expecting you to throw in a curveball and say you got it free somewhere 😂. Love your videos and the detail you go into, as well as not overcomplicating anything. Looking forwards to the new 'shop!
Looks like a solid solution! For my shed "workshop" I still rely on a shopvac with a cyclone attached to a bin. The single hose that connects to that goes overhead on a swivelling arm alongside a power cable. This way I can use it for my table saw and sanders etc.
Just left a comment on one of your older videos (3yrs ago) where you talked about purchasing your new (at the time) Charnwood W796CF. I asked if you had experienced similar problems as someone else reported on youtube such as dust escaping the bag where it is suppose to be sealed. Having watched this video I guess the answer is yes. lol I guess I will continue my search for a suitable dust collector that is not Charnwood. Enjoying the videos BTW, thank you.
Thanks Keith, interesting to see how your workshop evolves, good to see you're looking after yourself and also considering the wider community - very commendable ! Looking forward to more workshop evolution news !
Great space savings, I have a 4" (100mm) dust system that exhausts outside my shop. I use an Oneida super dust deputy cyclone connected to a 55 gallon drum as the chip separation and no filters. Outside the shop i have never had any noticeable dust so in terms of being responsible there is no issues there if you have good separation. Fine dust does not survive long outside once it interacts with the moisture in the air. You were exactly correct with your diagram, one aspect that may cause you an issue is the small air filter between the cabinet and the shop that small surface area will have to handle all the air return from the collection system and that may serve as a flow restriction. You can get a low cost anemometer to measure air flow and make sure you aren't causing yourself an issue. I like venting outside because i know the fine dust is out of my shop, its easier and cheaper to heat / cool a little more air than it is to get a new set of lungs!
Looking good Keith I think you will always have some dust but you have improved your System a great deal l have always liked your workshop and I can’t wait to see what else you have done l got one of those glue guns for my Milwaukee on your recommendation and I love it thanks for sharing that I think on the same lines as you and want all my tools with the same batteries Milwaukee 😊 please keep your videos coming l always like watching your videos take care and see you soon 👍👏👏
I've been following you since the old workshop build and today you provided the best payoff ever! "Vacuuming the ceiling" has topped all previous best moments! I haven't even finished watching the video, I am happily rewinding and watching this moment. Christmas number 1 maybe? I bet badger won't sing a song! @badgersworkshop?
Great id❤ea.My 2nd shop, I built a closet. (Similar to your idea) On my 3rd and 4th shop I came to the realization that even after a separator, everyone keeps the fine dust in the shop, with an overpriced filter. Why??? After a decent separator, everything can be vented on an outside wall. No fine dust in the shop. No brainer.
You're right. I didn't watch till the end. At the same time, that fine dust most likely won't hit your neighbors. Carpenters, construction workers, and hell, arborist, tree trimmers cut outside all the time. And if you're worried about the planet. Please remember we don't live on a static planet. Weather changes every day. Has since the beginning of time. I like your content and have been following for a good while. Do yourself a favor. Vent that sh*t outside. (Stage 4 cancer survivor twice. 35-year Carpenter/woodworker ) Be careful and best of luck.
Some really great ideas Keith, especially the floor sweep and also using the Record Ceiling filter cartridge for the exhaust from your cabinet. I need to improve my dust extraction, expecially from my router table and run some 100mm ducting. The only real problem is fitting everything I need into my single car garage workshop 😔
14:16 For some reason, plastics have seen extreme price increases. I don't know why they would go up so drastically, but they have. I've noticed it especially with plastic storage bins, ones that used to cost $9 are now about $26, which is crazy. But I guess it's all the supply chain issues, and the overseas shipping container issues that are trickling down to the final retail cost of items. As for the £71 cost, that doesn't seem very unusual nowadays. I think it's probably cheaper than I could buy the same stuff in Florida.
Maybe you do the change in the video, but have you thought about adding a cyclone section before the filter...ie to spin out most of the dust into the bin before it gets to the filter step. ie a 2 stage dust collection vs the 1 stage it looks to be now. They do sell a 4 inch cyclone "super dust deputy" over here in the usa...not sure if they have similar over your way or if you just buy it online and get it shipped. In any case it will be interesting to see what you come up with in the video.
@@RagnBoneBrown Yeah it can take more space, that is true. When I got my dust collector I went crazy and just got the Laguna 1.5hp p-flux hepa unit as it had the cyclone buit in above the bin and then it has the filter next to it. I had researched the single stage ones and realized i could add a cyclone to help, then realized I may as well just spent a bit more and get an all in one. So far I like it and it works for what i need. Glad to see what you have is working for you, that is the important part after all, that what you have works. :)
Like the use of the air filter for the box there mate. I feel you on that. In winter, vacs are my heat source!!😂 I got the cheap charnwood hvlp. They say good for 2 hours but mine, after about 45 mins, the motor gets real hot. Never seems any the worse for it but no way I'd run it for 2 hours😬
I used orange soil pipe for mine and that set my back around £170. I'm guessing all of yours was around the £300 mark. I'm keeping a keen eye out for some metal ducting on Facebook market place etc. Ready to upgrade when I move into my new shop
Hmm I just bought an extractor system for my workshop, so far I have not noticed an issue you had with yours. I wonder if that will become a problem for me i the future as well🤔
The band clamp doesn't go on top of the foam strip which seems to be why it's not doing anything. Perhaps a 25mm wide strip of hard-ish stick-on rubber that the clamp can rest against while holding the bag (so metal, rubber, bag, clamp) would eliminate the problem.
I don't know how much those pipes/fitting cost, but I bet it was silly expensive. This is why every time I consider adding piping to a machine, I end up buying a cheap vac or extractor instead. I have 2 small barrel dust extractors and 3 shop vacs right now in my shop lol. And considering I just bought a bandsaw, I'm probably going to add another one.
Have you considers just adding something as simple as a strip of duct tape (or similar) around where you add the clamp for the bag as this might add additional sealing?
@@RagnBoneBrown Ah ok. Watching I was a bit considered about overheating, but you covered that. Even so with intermitted use it should not be an issue. Except that incident a while back where it was left on for 24-48hrs, but if I remember correctly that got sorted.
If you duct the air back out up high just below the roof, would it help clear the room of dust. As it will push the air down and the dust is already heavier than air.
yeah plastic vent pipes not a cheap ones, nearly same price as 110mm drainage grey ones. few years ago, i had to make for kitchen cooker hood ventilation, i was shocked for price😱 for few meters of rectangle ones plus fittings
From 16,000 miles away it seems to me that the air ain’t going thru the filter cartridge. Here in the great south land we would say that “ the things knackered, mate!!!!”. Where is the separator element of the set-up? You might as well stick to opening the windows and doors. Stavros
Great video. Could you turn the blast gate on the floor sweep 90 degrees so it operates horizontally and not vertically, thus negating the need for a slot?
I find it bizarre that the Charnwood HVLP would vent so much dust in that way. It seems a strange thing to happen. I have a Jet HVLP and the bag fits inside the housing rather than outside like yours. It attaches with a kind of spring loaded ring (really not sure how to explain that). It seems much more effective. But I don’t understand how yours doesn’t seal even with the sticky foam tape workaround you added. Overall though you now have all your dust collection now in a really small footprint which is a big win! Good job as usual!
Nice vidoe kieth a was 8 quid higher than you paid for the duct work but your right its not cheap. A actually managed get some 100mm galvanized pipe that am gonna use for extraction some point soon. Wanted ask 2 things 1 were do u get the bags for your extraction and the other a reckon your getting drum sander. Just a guess. 👍🏴😮
With the ductwork being plastic, will static electricity cause sawdust particles to accumulate (and possibly restrict flow) at various points inside them? I thought I saw a video elsewhere previously mentioning that as being something to address, I believe w a grounding copper wire, but I’m not sure. Very cool design and build though, as usual!
Static build up is a thing with plastic pipes but it's no big deal. There's a myth about it causing fires etc but it's definitely a myth. Good video about it here: ua-cam.com/video/yA22kTtV4XI/v-deo.htmlsi=aPhH0oQqJO-jbHcc
That was a solid construction Keith, impressive that the vac doesn’t overheat when boxed in like that. But ugh, it says it’s professional and designed for MDF but leaks dusty air out - how can that be right? I didn’t think the pipe parts were too stupidly expensive. Yes it added up but each individual piece was a reasonable price and the postage, especially for long pipes, was very fair. If you want to see stupid pipe prices, try buying 100mm soil pipe fittings in France, each joint is at least double what it costs in the UK 😩
Applaud your efforts but i feel when it comes to dust , you simply can’t get away from it as a woodworker. It’s impossible and can be a money trap in the endeavours
I think your going to have difficulty changing bags In my experience you need access from all sides The clip that holds the bag on is a pain in the ass to attach
I’m genuinely surprised it only cost £70. I thought it was going to be a lot more. I went to City Plumbing (Brighton) not too long ago. I was after a 110mm bend (with access), a 110mm branch and two 40mm solvent weld bends. They tried to charge me £151!! I thought the bloke was having a laugh. I then realised he was being serious. He tried to tell me that the 92.5° bend was £80 because it had a access hole! Yeah, I don’t have an account with them (I’m actually a carpenter) but that was madness. I told them to keep their fittings a went across the road to Toolstation. £48 for the same four items. I’m just not surprised by insane prices any more.
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I love the idea of the floor sweep collector. It might be a good idea to attach some magnets to collect old screws, nails, brads etc…. to avoid a collection bag puncture.
Been watching for years and I can definitively say that 4:36-4:43 is your best content youve ever put out. Great video as always. Thorough, inciteful, and not to heavy with technical jargon. Appreciate it as always. Keep it up.
Wow, thanks!
100%. Might as well delete the other 471 videos on the channel, the peak has been reached.
Ok, that floor sweep is a pro move.
Cannot explain how much time I have wasted looking for an f-ing dustpan over the years.
Thanks for the ideas mate!
Been watching for years but I think you've hit your pinnacle with the "Vacuuming the Ceiling" song. Well done, sir.
Oh what a feeling, vacuuming the ceiling 😂😂😂😂
Nice song at 4:38 - My expectation was something like Ghostbusters! -theme. Was not disappointed though.
Hats off to "vacuuming the ceiling"
Wow, I have been watching your channel for over 4 years !!
nice upgrades Keith! Thanks for sharing the video with us 💖👍😎JP
I'm going to have 'vacuuming the ceiling' stuck in my head now. Thanks.
Evolution of a workshop. Similar to Woodshop Junkies, which is another channel I love.
Nice to see some workshop upgrading content, also loving the "Vacuuming the Ceiling" song! When will the full version come out? 😉
Wow, Time flies. Four years have gone in a blink. Filling the inspection pit comes to mind as an early job. I've got pipes running around the ceiling all over the place for all my tools. Fortunately The extractor and cyclone etc. are outside under cover so no problem with the dust leakage or valuable space. I even have neighbours who are always asking for the shavings so no problem with the wheely bin I fill every few weeks. You answered the question as I was thinking it.. You have to have air movement. Fortunately you did not get left scratching your head wondering why it did not work. 🤔. One good thing I did many years ago was make blast gates. Those cheap plastic things are terrible and were forever getting clogged in the gate grooves. For a functional bit of kit, it looks very attractive so no worries there. I do hope you don't have any problems, and have to get in to fix things :😉
Congrats on baby Brown! You'll find that you can sing pretty much any genre or song, if it's in a lullaby form. Vacuming the ceilig sounded good! I regularly sang Foo Fighter songs for my children to fall to sleep to. Well, sing...
Nice project too btw! :-)
My current dust-extraction process is me opening the windows when I can no longer see properly and then hoping for a convenient breeze. I should probably update it a little...!
Very cheap to run 😂.
I hope you use masks, dude. 😬
Mdf dust is deadly.Take precautions.
@@stevewood7884 not getting jokes also
Very nice editing Keith. Really enjoyed this video
Great video thanks for sharing, great solution for a major problem of woodworkers stores
Brilliant!! A great job, overheating would have been my main concern, but it seems not, excellent video thank you, keep 'em coming
Come for the shop work, stay for the bangin tunes.
I solved a similar dust issue and used a 220l plastic barrel by making a connecting collar out of neoprene. It's flexible enough to create a perfect seal and allow easy removal of the barrel but tough enough to be durable. Plus it was very cheap. If you want more details just ask 😁
Eager to see a 1 month, 2 month report to see how the system keeps up. And as usual, nice vid
Thanks, will do!
Loved the jingle, great stuff!
£390
Wow, that's proper cheap!
70 Quid?! That's bonkers. I guessed £60 at the most but was half expecting you to throw in a curveball and say you got it free somewhere 😂. Love your videos and the detail you go into, as well as not overcomplicating anything. Looking forwards to the new 'shop!
Ingenious, Keith. Your design is fantastic. Thanks for the video.
Looks like a solid solution!
For my shed "workshop" I still rely on a shopvac with a cyclone attached to a bin. The single hose that connects to that goes overhead on a swivelling arm alongside a power cable. This way I can use it for my table saw and sanders etc.
Just left a comment on one of your older videos (3yrs ago) where you talked about purchasing your new (at the time) Charnwood W796CF. I asked if you had experienced similar problems as someone else reported on youtube such as dust escaping the bag where it is suppose to be sealed. Having watched this video I guess the answer is yes. lol I guess I will continue my search for a suitable dust collector that is not Charnwood. Enjoying the videos BTW, thank you.
Yes. Upgraded recently (video on my channel) to another extractor with the same issue
Thanks Keith, interesting to see how your workshop evolves, good to see you're looking after yourself and also considering the wider community - very commendable !
Looking forward to more workshop evolution news !
That's brilliant, really interesting video.
Love it. Very neat and think the floor pickup is such a great idea.
Nice work, well thought out as usual. My dust extraction is a combination of open the garage door and use hand tools. 😊
A star is born :-D 👍
Looks great..thinking about building this in to new shed
Great space savings, I have a 4" (100mm) dust system that exhausts outside my shop. I use an Oneida super dust deputy cyclone connected to a 55 gallon drum as the chip separation and no filters. Outside the shop i have never had any noticeable dust so in terms of being responsible there is no issues there if you have good separation. Fine dust does not survive long outside once it interacts with the moisture in the air.
You were exactly correct with your diagram, one aspect that may cause you an issue is the small air filter between the cabinet and the shop that small surface area will have to handle all the air return from the collection system and that may serve as a flow restriction. You can get a low cost anemometer to measure air flow and make sure you aren't causing yourself an issue.
I like venting outside because i know the fine dust is out of my shop, its easier and cheaper to heat / cool a little more air than it is to get a new set of lungs!
Cheers, great info. Follow up to the dust containment unit airflow here :
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Looking good Keith I think you will always have some dust but you have improved your System a great deal l have always liked your workshop and I can’t wait to see what else you have done l got one of those glue guns for my Milwaukee on your recommendation and I love it thanks for sharing that I think on the same lines as you and want all my tools with the same batteries Milwaukee 😊 please keep your videos coming l always like watching your videos take care and see you soon 👍👏👏
I've been following you since the old workshop build and today you provided the best payoff ever! "Vacuuming the ceiling" has topped all previous best moments! I haven't even finished watching the video, I am happily rewinding and watching this moment. Christmas number 1 maybe? I bet badger won't sing a song! @badgersworkshop?
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And it’s super quiet! 👍👍
Keith, you have some hidden singing talents there 😂😂
Great id❤ea.My 2nd shop, I built a closet. (Similar to your idea) On my 3rd and 4th shop I came to the realization that even after a separator, everyone keeps the fine dust in the shop, with an overpriced filter. Why??? After a decent separator, everything can be vented on an outside wall. No fine dust in the shop. No brainer.
Explained why in the video
You're right. I didn't watch till the end. At the same time, that fine dust most likely won't hit your neighbors. Carpenters, construction workers, and hell, arborist, tree trimmers cut outside all the time. And if you're worried about the planet. Please remember we don't live on a static planet. Weather changes every day. Has since the beginning of time. I like your content and have been following for a good while. Do yourself a favor. Vent that sh*t outside. (Stage 4 cancer survivor twice. 35-year Carpenter/woodworker ) Be careful and best of luck.
i did a similar cabinet container for my dust extractor but i put it on the outside attached to my shed.
Great to see you back mate
I never went anywhere?
Great job !
Great idea
That's a pretty cool setup Keith well arranged mate 👌
Some really great ideas Keith, especially the floor sweep and also using the Record Ceiling filter cartridge for the exhaust from your cabinet.
I need to improve my dust extraction, expecially from my router table and run some 100mm ducting.
The only real problem is fitting everything I need into my single car garage workshop 😔
14:16 For some reason, plastics have seen extreme price increases. I don't know why they would go up so drastically, but they have. I've noticed it especially with plastic storage bins, ones that used to cost $9 are now about $26, which is crazy. But I guess it's all the supply chain issues, and the overseas shipping container issues that are trickling down to the final retail cost of items. As for the £71 cost, that doesn't seem very unusual nowadays. I think it's probably cheaper than I could buy the same stuff in Florida.
nice work
I called it!! 11:17 I shouted "paint it green!" 11:24 I woke my cat up but nailed it!
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Really nice work, Keith! It looks great in there! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks, you too!
Glad to see I’m not the only one that can’t silicone 😂
Do your best, mask the rest
Always interesting and informative!
11:22 Wait, forget about all your other pending projects, teach us this trick in a DIY video, Keith!
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oh what a feeling... =D , good one !
very good work !
Maybe you do the change in the video, but have you thought about adding a cyclone section before the filter...ie to spin out most of the dust into the bin before it gets to the filter step. ie a 2 stage dust collection vs the 1 stage it looks to be now. They do sell a 4 inch cyclone "super dust deputy" over here in the usa...not sure if they have similar over your way or if you just buy it online and get it shipped. In any case it will be interesting to see what you come up with in the video.
I wouldn't want to lose the space to be honest
@@RagnBoneBrown Yeah it can take more space, that is true. When I got my dust collector I went crazy and just got the Laguna 1.5hp p-flux hepa unit as it had the cyclone buit in above the bin and then it has the filter next to it. I had researched the single stage ones and realized i could add a cyclone to help, then realized I may as well just spent a bit more and get an all in one. So far I like it and it works for what i need. Glad to see what you have is working for you, that is the important part after all, that what you have works. :)
Jeeze four years goes fast sometimes.
It really does
Like the use of the air filter for the box there mate. I feel you on that. In winter, vacs are my heat source!!😂 I got the cheap charnwood hvlp. They say good for 2 hours but mine, after about 45 mins, the motor gets real hot. Never seems any the worse for it but no way I'd run it for 2 hours😬
Cheers Stew
I have the same and completely agree, no way would it make an hour.
@@RagnBoneBrown
Very cool dude
I used orange soil pipe for mine and that set my back around £170. I'm guessing all of yours was around the £300 mark. I'm keeping a keen eye out for some metal ducting on Facebook market place etc. Ready to upgrade when I move into my new shop
Hmm I just bought an extractor system for my workshop, so far I have not noticed an issue you had with yours. I wonder if that will become a problem for me i the future as well🤔
I hope it doesn't!
The band clamp doesn't go on top of the foam strip which seems to be why it's not doing anything. Perhaps a 25mm wide strip of hard-ish stick-on rubber that the clamp can rest against while holding the bag (so metal, rubber, bag, clamp) would eliminate the problem.
I don't know how much those pipes/fitting cost, but I bet it was silly expensive. This is why every time I consider adding piping to a machine, I end up buying a cheap vac or extractor instead. I have 2 small barrel dust extractors and 3 shop vacs right now in my shop lol. And considering I just bought a bandsaw, I'm probably going to add another one.
Great idea with good engineering and construction. Is the noise reduction noticeable?
Have you considers just adding something as simple as a strip of duct tape (or similar) around where you add the clamp for the bag as this might add additional sealing?
It wouldn't be thick enough
@@RagnBoneBrown Ah ok. Watching I was a bit considered about overheating, but you covered that. Even so with intermitted use it should not be an issue. Except that incident a while back where it was left on for 24-48hrs, but if I remember correctly that got sorted.
If you duct the air back out up high just below the roof, would it help clear the room of dust.
As it will push the air down and the dust is already heavier than air.
yeah plastic vent pipes not a cheap ones, nearly same price as 110mm drainage grey ones. few years ago, i had to make for kitchen cooker hood ventilation, i was shocked for price😱 for few meters of rectangle ones plus fittings
From 16,000 miles away it seems to me that the air ain’t going thru the filter cartridge. Here in the great south land we would say that “ the things knackered, mate!!!!”. Where is the separator element of the set-up?
You might as well stick to opening the windows and doors.
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Great video. Could you turn the blast gate on the floor sweep 90 degrees so it operates horizontally and not vertically, thus negating the need for a slot?
Will have a think about that
@@RagnBoneBrown I do love the floor sweep idea though. Genius
I find it bizarre that the Charnwood HVLP would vent so much dust in that way. It seems a strange thing to happen. I have a Jet HVLP and the bag fits inside the housing rather than outside like yours. It attaches with a kind of spring loaded ring (really not sure how to explain that). It seems much more effective. But I don’t understand how yours doesn’t seal even with the sticky foam tape workaround you added. Overall though you now have all your dust collection now in a really small footprint which is a big win! Good job as usual!
Yeh bizarre, almost seems like the impeller is spinning in the wrong direction and forcing air into the bag
I didn't try to guess the price of the pvc thinguies because I have no idea and yet 70 pounds seems pretty expensive to me
Nice vidoe kieth a was 8 quid higher than you paid for the duct work but your right its not cheap. A actually managed get some 100mm galvanized pipe that am gonna use for extraction some point soon. Wanted ask 2 things 1 were do u get the bags for your extraction and the other a reckon your getting drum sander. Just a guess. 👍🏴😮
I got the bags on eBay and not a drum sander, unfortunately!
@@RagnBoneBrown dammit really thought that was it. Can't wait see. No worries I'll have look for them thanks 👍🏴
With the ductwork being plastic, will static electricity cause sawdust particles to accumulate (and possibly restrict flow) at various points inside them? I thought I saw a video elsewhere previously mentioning that as being something to address, I believe w a grounding copper wire, but I’m not sure. Very cool design and build though, as usual!
Static build up is a thing with plastic pipes but it's no big deal. There's a myth about it causing fires etc but it's definitely a myth. Good video about it here: ua-cam.com/video/yA22kTtV4XI/v-deo.htmlsi=aPhH0oQqJO-jbHcc
@@RagnBoneBrown Good to know. Thanks!
great upgrade! The only thing I will say... why black pipes! lol
It's what I had!
@@RagnBoneBrown suppose they could be painted later!
Been a while since we've had some singing 😂😂😂
Great video, but did all that effort actually work?
Yes it's working but follow up here: Follow up to the dust containment unit airflow
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Hi, don’t know why you didn’t just use 110mm soil pipe which would have been a lot cheaper? Couple of reducers and Bobs your dads brother.
It's the same price when you consider the 110 is 1m longer and about £4 more expensive
are you a joiner. you have so many tools
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I was way off with my etimate for the pipe 😂 not actually a bad price
That was a solid construction Keith, impressive that the vac doesn’t overheat when boxed in like that. But ugh, it says it’s professional and designed for MDF but leaks dusty air out - how can that be right?
I didn’t think the pipe parts were too stupidly expensive. Yes it added up but each individual piece was a reasonable price and the postage, especially for long pipes, was very fair. If you want to see stupid pipe prices, try buying 100mm soil pipe fittings in France, each joint is at least double what it costs in the UK 😩
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Gd video have job for u
£18
Edit: way out 😁. Been a while since I have bought duct. Got mine from an electrical wholesaler. Just fan duct
Applaud your efforts but i feel when it comes to dust , you simply can’t get away from it as a woodworker. It’s impossible and can be a money trap in the endeavours
I guess £124 for the pipe and fittings.
I think your going to have difficulty changing bags
In my experience you need access from all sides
The clip that holds the bag on is a pain in the ass to attach
My man just drops a Milwaukee hot glue gun in there like its nothing!! When did you get that????
Ha ha, it's not what it seems. See here for more info ua-cam.com/video/9vvF5NYec6E/v-deo.html
I even watched this and forgot, i was blinded by excitement lol
I’m genuinely surprised it only cost £70. I thought it was going to be a lot more. I went to City Plumbing (Brighton) not too long ago. I was after a 110mm bend (with access), a 110mm branch and two 40mm solvent weld bends. They tried to charge me £151!! I thought the bloke was having a laugh. I then realised he was being serious. He tried to tell me that the 92.5° bend was £80 because it had a access hole! Yeah, I don’t have an account with them (I’m actually a carpenter) but that was madness. I told them to keep their fittings a went across the road to Toolstation. £48 for the same four items. I’m just not surprised by insane prices any more.
I think £170, £50 for the pipe, £10 for each fitting and £20 for the crack 😝😬
Did I say £170? I meant £70 😂
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£28.65 is my guess
400.
04:49 - stop doing that, fingers away from side of item when nailing.
Those bags aren’t very good at keeping the fine dust inside.
120 quid
80 bucks
10 bucks underestimated. Nice work, KB. Loved the bit on the vacuum sweep.
350£
Haha, you really háte dust, don’t you?
£90
325 pounds