Please, please get an ad-blocker. This is such intimate music, as you say, and of towering quality. I feel what you feel, or something very similar. Assault, harassment, yes. I use Adguard which is free.
12:27 Wow, D in the bass, E flat in the right hand with a trill (F natural) by the harpsichordist. F sharp with E natural neighbour note in the violin part. I think this is the earliest cluster chord I've seen!
thank you !!! i've been looking for this it's been soooo long. you saved me lmao. bach is truly enchanting and his compositions deserve all appreciation in the world
My orchestra arrangement of this piece as “Symphony in C minor” Woodwinds: 2 Oboes Bassoon Strings: Violins 1, 2 Violas Continuo (Cellos, Basses and Harpsichord)
@@andremarchal7808 mais c est du gâchis de n'écouter ces sonates qu' au clavecin qui ne permet pas de faire bien ressortir les lignes mélodiques au clavier, pour moi c est tellement mieux par Glenn gould.....exemple : ua-cam.com/video/4cIF-RhraT8/v-deo.html
Very beautiful but, except for various ornaments, this is a carbon copy of the Huggett/Koopman 1983 recording. Nothing new here except Pinnock has corrected Koopman's weird speed wobble in the 3rd movement!
David Trainer, I am sorry for my inadequate English. I understand your problem with perfect pitch and reading scores. I don't have perfect pitch, so that is not any problem for me. But I can't stand the use of vibrato, it's very annoying. I would guess that vibrato also should be a problem for people with perfect pitch. Please tell me about your own experience.
geir øyvind eskeland just like the pedal, when used adequately, vibrato adds flavour to the music. if the violinist did not vibrate on long notes, the piece would sound dull and uninteresting. just my opinion: some people are inclined to believe that baroque music equals zero vibrato. this is just sad and misleading.
Barron Hung, quote: "If the violinist did not vibrate on long notes, the piece would sound dull and uninteresting." Many people support your opinion. But how do you listening to the music? This composition have three parts, not only a melody line. If the violinist play a very long note, the composer create a number of dissonances and harmonies that change the music expressions all the time. My English is not good, so I got my oldest daughter to translate: "If you play with vibrato you'll be outside of the specified pitch for most of the time." How can anybody enjoy music that most of the time is outside the specified pitch?? It's a mystery to me. Lopold Mozart wrote about vibrato in his violin school. He did not support continous vibrato, but could accept the use of vibrato as an ornament. His famous son, Wolfgang, wrote about vibrato in a letter to his father. Wolfgang couldn't stand the use of vibrato neither in instruments or human voices.
@@geiryvindeskeland7208 As an influential musician and pedagogue of his day, Leopold Mozart’s words carry weight. He describes vibrato (or “tremolo”) as a phenomenon deriving from nature, which should be imitated but not overdone. “The tremolo is an ornamentation which arises from Nature herself and which can be used charmingly on a long note, not only by good instrumentalists but also by clever singers. Nature herself is the instructress thereof. For if we strike a slack string or a bell sharply, we hear after the stroke a certain wave-like undulation of the struck note. And this trembling after-sound is called tremolo…” (203). Both father and son find the natural vibrato beautiful, but only if it is applied in an appropriate manner. journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/000313131706700217#:~:text=As%20an%20influential%20musician%20and,be%20imitated%20but%20not%20overdone.&text=And%20this%20trembling%20after%2Dsound,tremolo%E2%80%A6%E2%80%9D%20(203).
Barron Hung, as you know, my English is not the best, so I am more or less addicted to translations in Swedish or Danish. In one of my books about Wolfgang A. Mozart, original Danish, the writer use the word "hadede" "hated" the use of vibrato. Propaganda? I mean, Leopold's violin school are printed, and Wolfgang's statement are written, so it should be possible to get it right. It seems to me that the word "hated" is incorrect here. Nevertheless, I can't listning to vibrato, so I am addicted to non-vibrato performances. Once again, how can you enjoy the tone/note most of the time outside the specified pitch?
IL FAUT ECOUTER TOUTES CES SONATES PAR GLENN GOULD . les lignes mélodiques y ressortent à merveille. exemple : 1er mouvement : ua-cam.com/video/ojisWdXLf6I/v-deo.html 2eme mouvement : ua-cam.com/video/4cIF-RhraT8/v-deo.html
Aren’t the titles of these videos wrong and misleading? These aren’t violin sonatas with accompaniment. These are sonatas for violin and piano (harpsichord really) or sonatas for harpsichord and violin if you like
certainement pas. on ne l entend pas assez plutot. c est une sonate pour deux intruments avec un véritable contrepoint et aucun des deux ne doit prendre le dessus sur l' autre. pire on peut considérer qu il y a 3 instruments car la main droite est complètement dissociée de la main gauche au piano. il n y a qu' à comparer avec la version de glenn gould , la référence : ua-cam.com/video/hYQRJrVgVgg/v-deo.html
@@GlenShannon If you care about privacy try: HttpS-Everywhere and NoScript. If you just want to block Ads and other annoyances add PopUp Blocker to my aforementioned list. Nice performance of Het Wilhelmus, greetings from Flanders.
Why must this violinist put vibrato on every long note? It isn't pleasant, as it becomes an unwelcomed expectation. Historical sources state that vibrato is an ORNAMENT, like any other, and should therefore be used with good taste. You would not expect to hear mordant on every note, so why vibrato? This violinist is clearly from a classical school.
you may not like her use of vibrato, but Podger is one of the most famous “authentic-style” Baroque violinists in the world! She does not come from an old mainstream “classical” (as you put it) viewpoint
Wow, the beginning modulation was/did come from Erbarme dich, mein Gott from St. Matthew Passion with a tad of Das Musikalische Opfer. Love it.
Yes, the main melody is also very similar to that of that aria.
C minor compositions have always been my favourite pieces.
Me too!
I am having such an intimate moment with this sonata, really feeling it and then UA-cam HARASSES me with a Hamilton ad.......
Please, please get an ad-blocker. This is such intimate music, as you say, and of towering quality. I feel what you feel, or something very similar. Assault, harassment, yes. I use Adguard which is free.
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Yes I hate these ads too in such Beautiful Music!
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12:27 Wow, D in the bass, E flat in the right hand with a trill (F natural) by the harpsichordist. F sharp with E natural neighbour note in the violin part. I think this is the earliest cluster chord I've seen!
Yeah this sonata has pretty cool stuff. I find myself returning back to it from time to time.
Amazing comment. Thank you!
Locatelli did some in his etudes
I’m a recently graduated high school student and I have a professional gig playing this piece I’m so excited
Siciliano - 0:18
Allegro - 4:34
Adagio - 9:08
Allegro - 12:18
Really love the violin's articulations and variety of the treatment of the longer sustained notes, especially in the last movement.
One of my favorites. Thank you!
I love this one as well as his Bach sonata 5 in f-minor
This goes straight to my heart 😍
I didn't know this one, it's very beautiful !
Bach knows how to end the music at the perfect timing.
Nothing in bad taste.
Beautiful melody!
υπέροχο μοναδικό
best medicament for relaxation, closing the eyes
you walk to the eternity
Incredible, amazing, thank you.
I love you for your helpful work!
Thanks for uploading!
thank you for this!!! helps so much with my practicing
thank you !!! i've been looking for this it's been soooo long. you saved me lmao. bach is truly enchanting and his compositions deserve all appreciation in the world
Gracias 😍😍😍
My orchestra arrangement of this piece as “Symphony in C minor”
Woodwinds:
2 Oboes
Bassoon
Strings:
Violins 1, 2
Violas
Continuo (Cellos, Basses and Harpsichord)
Gracias.
the last movement is celestial!
the first 3 ones too ! 😉🙂
@@andremarchal7808 mais c est du gâchis de n'écouter ces sonates qu' au clavecin qui ne permet pas de faire bien ressortir les lignes mélodiques au clavier, pour moi c est tellement mieux par Glenn gould.....exemple : ua-cam.com/video/4cIF-RhraT8/v-deo.html
comme j ai dit , tout recouter par glenn Gould....exemple : ua-cam.com/video/VpGqFlMiyo8/v-deo.html
That thumbnail tho
Whats with the thumbnail?
What was it? It seems normal to me.
When the video came out the thumbnail was (for like 1 hour) a blurry photo of some kind of kid with blue clothes
@@triple_croche Hahaha
0:17 - 4:31 ROMANTIC BACH
I still think Bach hid some of his most amazing music in these violin sonatas and the cello sonatas also.
Dear Gerubach, will you scrole Bach's cantatas?
But what is that thumbnail?
Why, at measure eight, for example, does the red bar break as if the note is not sounding when it really is? It's an inconsistent technique.
0:19 - 0:25 : Erbarme dich !
Etienne Berny I thought it was the Trio Sonata from the Musical Offering.
Ryan Truong Absolutely... Erbarme dich's harmony on these first measures with Musical Offering's tempo... perhaps a kind of mix. xD
You nailed I had the same thought.
Where's the piano accompaniment to play along??? There was one here on youtube but I can't find it.
???? The clavier part i am looking at is the middle and lower line of score..... i do not understand Your question. How is that not the "piano part"?
The beginning of this concert is the beginning of the Aria “Ebachme dich” from the Saint Matthew Passion
Very beautiful but, except for various ornaments, this is a carbon copy of the Huggett/Koopman 1983 recording. Nothing new here except Pinnock has corrected Koopman's weird speed wobble in the 3rd movement!
4:31
Chord progression please!!!
10:28 ouch.. but nice
Tuning: 0c: A4 = 440Hz
12:18
6:38
This is truly beautifully performed and at 440 Hz (thank GOD). I have perfect pitch and so called "baroque" pitch does my head in.
David Trainer, I am sorry for my inadequate English. I understand your problem with perfect pitch and reading scores. I don't have perfect pitch, so that is not any problem for me. But I can't stand the use of vibrato, it's very annoying. I would guess that vibrato also should be a problem for people with perfect pitch. Please tell me about your own experience.
geir øyvind eskeland just like the pedal, when used adequately, vibrato adds flavour to the music. if the violinist did not vibrate on long notes, the piece would sound dull and uninteresting. just my opinion: some people are inclined to believe that baroque music equals zero vibrato. this is just sad and misleading.
Barron Hung, quote: "If the violinist did not vibrate on long notes, the piece would sound dull and uninteresting." Many people support your opinion. But how do you listening to the music? This composition have three parts, not only a melody line. If the violinist play a very long note, the composer create a number of dissonances and harmonies that change the music expressions all the time. My English is not good, so I got my oldest daughter to translate: "If you play with vibrato you'll be outside of the specified pitch for most of the time." How can anybody enjoy music that most of the time is outside the specified pitch?? It's a mystery to me. Lopold Mozart wrote about vibrato in his violin school. He did not support continous vibrato, but could accept the use of vibrato as an ornament. His famous son, Wolfgang, wrote about vibrato in a letter to his father. Wolfgang couldn't stand the use of vibrato neither in instruments or human voices.
@@geiryvindeskeland7208 As an influential musician and pedagogue of his day,
Leopold Mozart’s words carry weight. He describes vibrato
(or “tremolo”) as a phenomenon deriving from nature, which
should be imitated but not overdone. “The tremolo is an
ornamentation which arises from Nature herself and which
can be used charmingly on a long note, not only by good
instrumentalists but also by clever singers. Nature herself is
the instructress thereof. For if we strike a slack string or a bell
sharply, we hear after the stroke a certain wave-like undulation
of the struck note. And this trembling after-sound is called
tremolo…” (203).
Both father and son find the natural vibrato beautiful, but
only if it is applied in an appropriate manner.
journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/000313131706700217#:~:text=As%20an%20influential%20musician%20and,be%20imitated%20but%20not%20overdone.&text=And%20this%20trembling%20after%2Dsound,tremolo%E2%80%A6%E2%80%9D%20(203).
Barron Hung, as you know, my English is not the best, so I am more or less addicted to translations in Swedish or Danish. In one of my books about Wolfgang A. Mozart, original Danish, the writer use the word "hadede" "hated" the use of vibrato. Propaganda? I mean, Leopold's violin school are printed, and Wolfgang's statement are written, so it should be possible to get it right. It seems to me that the word "hated" is incorrect here. Nevertheless, I can't listning to vibrato, so I am addicted to non-vibrato performances. Once again, how can you enjoy the tone/note most of the time outside the specified pitch?
0:17
IL FAUT ECOUTER TOUTES CES SONATES PAR GLENN GOULD . les lignes mélodiques y ressortent à merveille. exemple : 1er mouvement : ua-cam.com/video/ojisWdXLf6I/v-deo.html 2eme mouvement : ua-cam.com/video/4cIF-RhraT8/v-deo.html
Aren’t the titles of these videos wrong and misleading? These aren’t violin sonatas with accompaniment. These are sonatas for violin and piano (harpsichord really) or sonatas for harpsichord and violin if you like
Juan Fernando Estrada yeah agree- they do say that though to differentiate from his unaccompanied violin sonatas
ПОЗДРАВИ
9:20
at times ,piano too loud ,covers the violin
certainement pas. on ne l entend pas assez plutot. c est une sonate pour deux intruments avec un véritable contrepoint et aucun des deux ne doit prendre le dessus sur l' autre. pire on peut considérer qu il y a 3 instruments car la main droite est complètement dissociée de la main gauche au piano. il n y a qu' à comparer avec la version de glenn gould , la référence : ua-cam.com/video/hYQRJrVgVgg/v-deo.html
So many badly timed ads!!
Please I urge you to get uBlock Origin or any other sort of ad-blocker for your browser.
@@Hevletica Thanks- I'll give that a try.
@@GlenShannon If you care about privacy try: HttpS-Everywhere and NoScript.
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Nice performance of Het Wilhelmus, greetings from Flanders.
@@Hevletica Wow, thanks for checking out Wilhelmus! Graag gedaan!
Why must this violinist put vibrato on every long note? It isn't pleasant, as it becomes an unwelcomed expectation. Historical sources state that vibrato is an ORNAMENT, like any other, and should therefore be used with good taste. You would not expect to hear mordant on every note, so why vibrato? This violinist is clearly from a classical school.
you may not like her use of vibrato, but Podger is one of the most famous “authentic-style” Baroque violinists in the world! She does not come from an old mainstream “classical” (as you put it) viewpoint
Man thats out of sync