In the forgiving category the PXG 0211 is arguably the best driver....4 yards shorter but the smallest shot area. Price wise $199 vs $599 for the highest priced. I bought one of the "expensive" ones last year before PXG dropped their prices. If I was in the market now for a new driver I would definitely go get fit for a PXG.
Completely agree Tom. PXG have really stepped up their driver game, the new GEN6 models are great too, unfortunately they were launched after we'd tested.
Glad to see it performed well. Sold my Ping G410 Plus, which I did like, purchased the 0211 and put 30 bucks in my pocket lol. Crazy cheap, looks like it’s gonna be easy to hit and it looks like a premium driver in person. The lack of adjustability on the head is nothing a little bit of lead tape won’t fix.
@@billyunair It’s a steal. I’ve had it out at the range 4 times so far and I’m very happy with how it performs. Easier to hit than my previous G410 Plus.
@@jasonouellette6179 Nice to hear the 0211 works well. Great quality. I may pick one up in the future. I just bought a near perfect TM Sim for $100. Will game that for a while. My other driver is a 1997 Ti bubble 2. I had a Gen 4 PXG XF driver before. Loved it! Forgiving. Can't go wrong with the older Ping drivers too.
I'd go for a PXG 0211($199) US or Cleveland Launcher XL driver ($249) US just on price alone. Yes the feel is not as good as the Mizuno or Titleist but the Pants pocket feels much better (heavier). More duckets in the pocket with the former. Cheers. Bugger on!
Gentlemen, I appreciate your content. Dundonald looks beautiful. I have played the course a number of times, but not since the new facilities have opened.
Thanks Joe, it's well worth a revisit if you're ever looking for a base on the West coast of Scotland for the ultimate golf trip. Turnberry, Troon, Prestwick, Western Gailes and Dundonald are all amazing.
Thanks for the extensive driver review. Plenty of information here to mull over and evaluate. I know it is coming, but I am looking forward to the utility iron face-off, and hoping that you will be able to include the Sub 70 799 model.
These videos are all great - but everyone should go get fit. The TSR3 is comfortably the best driver in my eyes after trying them all - but that speaks to the importance of not just going out and buying what you see/hear on UA-cam.
Thanks for the feedback Matthew, we couldn't agree more. Fitting is absolutely key to optimising performance. We've only ever seen this style of test/video as helping golfers narrow choice, so they don't need to go and hit 10 drivers themselves, which obviously is counter productive.
Yes 🙌. I was custom fit for my TSR2. After comparing it to my old gamer 2016 M2, standard Paradym & G430 max. TSR2 had the best sound/feel, smash and carry compared to them all.
Great video as always! What is the MOI of the TSR2. Curious since it didn’t make your top 5. I was custom fit for my TSR2. After comparing it to my old gamer 2016 M2, standard Paradym & G430 max. TSR2 had the best sound/feel, smash and carry compared to them all.
Thanks Stephen, appreciate you taking the time to feedback. Titleist don't usually like putting out MOI numbers, but we're currently looking into producing an MOI report of our own...watch this space.
Well done lads! Your camera presence has really improved! I’m willing to bet there is a bit less editing involved when making these videos. Keep up the good work 🏌🏻♂️
Thanks LE GEND. We both love shooting video, we don't really get enough chance to do it often enough to get great at it, but we'll keep trying so long as people keep watching.
Well done great to see. Don't understand why no cobrajet and mizuno stz in forgiving category why stx in forgiving when u have it in draw bias. I think u left out 2 of the better drivers.
Thanks for your feedback Richard. The Mizuno ST-Z and ST-X were both in the forgiving category, but there was a 9-yard carry distance gap between them, hence why we highlighted the X. The Cobra Aerojet Max is also in both the Forgiving and Draw categories (as it can suit both players), but unfortunately Cobra couldn't supply us with a standard Aerojet (not the LS or Max) in time for our test. Hope that helps explain.
Finally Titiest and for any golf company make alite weight driver for a senior lm a 70yrs old playing golf about for 25 years I bought The Ts1 in stiff and I love it I lost alot of distance in my old age but I got most of it back with my new Titiest driver also purchased a five wood and a five hybrid love it all much mahalos Bob from Hawaii
I love watching these guys, but I don't agree at all on this one. The TSR3 and the Paradym are by far the best 2 drivers this year with the TRR3 just edging it for me. I was just fit a couple of months ago, and I hit every major brand except Srixon and Mizuno. The TSR3 game me the best ball speeds, spin, launch, and distance, with the Paradym a close second. It also doesn't hurt that the TSR3 is the best-looking, sounding, and feeling driver I have ever hit! Plus, it is much more forgiving than it gets credit for. I don't see any possible scenario where it isn't in my bag for 5+ years.
Thanks for your feedback and input Cody. Probably worth remembering too that what we see as individuals doesn't represent what others always see. At the same 100 mph speed it's perfectly possible to see 25 yards of carry distance difference and 1200 RPM of spin differential thanks only to attack angle.
It is just my opinion. I'm not saying everyone should play a TSR3 or Paradym or any other driver. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. I'm simply saying in my fitting those 2 outperformed the other offerings, and in MY OPINION the TSR3 looks, feels, and sounds fantastic. If you like the look of turbulaters on the crown of your driver, by all means play the Ping. I think they are hideous and I don't believe I'm the only one. With performance being so close between all the major brands looks, sound, and feel will become more and more important to consumer's. It really all comes down to maximizing launch and spin conditions, then buy the one you will enjoy hitting.
For the life of me, I will never understand the love for Ping drivers. They are always shorter and lack ballspeed compared to Taylormade and Callaway. Now, with Titleist finally making amazing drivers and Cobra just getting better every release (except the radspeed), Ping is barely in the top 5. The g430 is just as ugly as they always are, but it finally does sound better. I just can't see spending 500-600 dollars on a driver that is ugly and sounds like drivers from some walmart bargain bin!
Shorter and lack of ball speed? Look at the data at 17:02. Ping G430 Max has 161.4 ball speed and 275 yards carry. Stealth 2 is only 0.1 mph faster and 1 yard longer. Paradym is 0.3 mph slower and has the same carry distance as G430 Max. People also usually buy Ping G430 Max as a fairway finder.
I didn't mean the ping was outperformed in this video. I was saying in my fittings they usually lack ball speed, and average shorter distance for ME. This is one guy hitting unfit drivers a dozen or so times. That is hardly a comprehensive test. They don't mean it to be. They even say don't make your final decisions based on this video. They also say these numbers could flip on any given day. He hit the Ping well and maybe he should game it. That doesnt mean it will work best for you or me. Just like my TSR3 might not work best for you or him.
I have not seen a test yet showing ping as longest and Nobody can rain in the ™ + and cobra lst Shows the testing is of no use to the average player. That’s just sad 😩🙈⛳️🏌🏼♂️
Sounds like you have some preconceived notions so shoot the messenger. If all review results were the same there would be no need but for one review. I look at a many reviews and try to coalesce them into my own mental summary. I may not have seen Ping G430 LST as the longest before, but it has consistently been long, and usually with a better balance of other qualities (such as forgiveness). As for Taylor Made, the review here was very favorable. But just to show how driver results can vary, no less than Rory McIlroy told his sponsor, TaylorMade, that he does not want to play the Stealth II driver anymore, and wants to go back to the prior model. I don't conclude that the Stealth II is bad, but for Rory it seems so.
In the forgiving category the PXG 0211 is arguably the best driver....4 yards shorter but the smallest shot area. Price wise $199 vs $599 for the highest priced. I bought one of the "expensive" ones last year before PXG dropped their prices. If I was in the market now for a new driver I would definitely go get fit for a PXG.
Completely agree Tom. PXG have really stepped up their driver game, the new GEN6 models are great too, unfortunately they were launched after we'd tested.
Glad to see it performed well. Sold my Ping G410 Plus, which I did like, purchased the 0211 and put 30 bucks in my pocket lol. Crazy cheap, looks like it’s gonna be easy to hit and it looks like a premium driver in person. The lack of adjustability on the head is nothing a little bit of lead tape won’t fix.
Nice to see the 0211 driver has an adjustable hisel at that price $199. What a deal.
@@billyunair It’s a steal. I’ve had it out at the range 4 times so far and I’m very happy with how it performs. Easier to hit than my previous G410 Plus.
@@jasonouellette6179 Nice to hear the 0211 works well. Great quality. I may pick one up in the future.
I just bought a near perfect TM Sim for $100. Will game that for a while. My other driver is a 1997 Ti bubble 2. I had a Gen 4 PXG XF driver before. Loved it! Forgiving.
Can't go wrong with the older Ping drivers too.
I'd go for a PXG 0211($199) US or Cleveland Launcher XL driver ($249) US just on price alone.
Yes the feel is not as good as the Mizuno or Titleist but the Pants pocket feels much better (heavier). More duckets in the pocket with the former.
Cheers. Bugger on!
Gentlemen, I appreciate your content. Dundonald looks beautiful. I have played the course a number of times, but not since the new facilities have opened.
Thanks Joe, it's well worth a revisit if you're ever looking for a base on the West coast of Scotland for the ultimate golf trip. Turnberry, Troon, Prestwick, Western Gailes and Dundonald are all amazing.
Thanks for the extensive driver review. Plenty of information here to mull over and evaluate. I know it is coming, but I am looking forward to the utility iron face-off, and hoping that you will be able to include the Sub 70 799 model.
Thanks for feedback Chester, appreciate you taking the time.
These videos are all great - but everyone should go get fit. The TSR3 is comfortably the best driver in my eyes after trying them all - but that speaks to the importance of not just going out and buying what you see/hear on UA-cam.
Thanks for the feedback Matthew, we couldn't agree more. Fitting is absolutely key to optimising performance. We've only ever seen this style of test/video as helping golfers narrow choice, so they don't need to go and hit 10 drivers themselves, which obviously is counter productive.
Yes 🙌. I was custom fit for my TSR2. After comparing it to my old gamer 2016 M2, standard Paradym & G430 max. TSR2 had the best sound/feel, smash and carry compared to them all.
Great video as always! What is the MOI of the TSR2. Curious since it didn’t make your top 5.
I was custom fit for my TSR2. After comparing it to my old gamer 2016 M2, standard Paradym & G430 max. TSR2 had the best sound/feel, smash and carry compared to them all.
Thanks Stephen, appreciate you taking the time to feedback. Titleist don't usually like putting out MOI numbers, but we're currently looking into producing an MOI report of our own...watch this space.
@@todaysgolfer nice 👍. I’ll be looking out for a report !
Well done lads! Your camera presence has really improved! I’m willing to bet there is a bit less editing involved when making these videos. Keep up the good work 🏌🏻♂️
Thanks LE GEND. We both love shooting video, we don't really get enough chance to do it often enough to get great at it, but we'll keep trying so long as people keep watching.
Love my TRs3 but the Paradym Triple Diamond is lower spin, longer and just as forgiving. TSr3 looks the best. Enjoy if it fits your spin window.
You guys missed the Wilson Dynapower and the Tour Edge 723s.
Why was the Srixon ZX5 MKII LS (low spin) model left out of the low spin test?
It's not available here in the UK Justin, unfortunately we couldn't get a test sample.
Well done great to see. Don't understand why no cobrajet and mizuno stz in forgiving category why stx in forgiving when u have it in draw bias. I think u left out 2 of the better drivers.
Thanks for your feedback Richard.
The Mizuno ST-Z and ST-X were both in the forgiving category, but there was a 9-yard carry distance gap between them, hence why we highlighted the X.
The Cobra Aerojet Max is also in both the Forgiving and Draw categories (as it can suit both players), but unfortunately Cobra couldn't supply us with a standard Aerojet (not the LS or Max) in time for our test.
Hope that helps explain.
Finally Titiest and for any golf company make alite weight driver for a senior lm a 70yrs old playing golf about for 25 years I bought The Ts1 in stiff and I love it I lost alot of distance in my old age but I got most of it back with my new Titiest driver also purchased a five wood and a five hybrid love it all much mahalos Bob from Hawaii
Great to hear Robert, options for slower speed players have never been so good.
No Wilson Dynapower Carbon driver? By all the reviews I've seen, it's one of the best drivers this year
Unfortunately they missed our test deadline David. Sorry but we only had the titanium Dynapower head on this occasion.
I love watching these guys, but I don't agree at all on this one. The TSR3 and the Paradym are by far the best 2 drivers this year with the TRR3 just edging it for me. I was just fit a couple of months ago, and I hit every major brand except Srixon and Mizuno. The TSR3 game me the best ball speeds, spin, launch, and distance, with the Paradym a close second. It also doesn't hurt that the TSR3 is the best-looking, sounding, and feeling driver I have ever hit! Plus, it is much more forgiving than it gets credit for. I don't see any possible scenario where it isn't in my bag for 5+ years.
Your information is antedoctal
@@edanzore Amazing how so many people believe what THEY see will be the same for everyone else, even though we all deliver the driver differently.
Thanks for your feedback and input Cody.
Probably worth remembering too that what we see as individuals doesn't represent what others always see. At the same 100 mph speed it's perfectly possible to see 25 yards of carry distance difference and 1200 RPM of spin differential thanks only to attack angle.
I agree. Thank you for your video
It is just my opinion. I'm not saying everyone should play a TSR3 or Paradym or any other driver. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. I'm simply saying in my fitting those 2 outperformed the other offerings, and in MY OPINION the TSR3 looks, feels, and sounds fantastic. If you like the look of turbulaters on the crown of your driver, by all means play the Ping. I think they are hideous and I don't believe I'm the only one. With performance being so close between all the major brands looks, sound, and feel will become more and more important to consumer's. It really all comes down to maximizing launch and spin conditions, then buy the one you will enjoy hitting.
Missing Wilson Dynapower
The Dynapower is in there Kevin. It's the titanium head as Wilson couldn't get us a carbon crown sample for our test deadline.
Pity as I gained 15 with the carbon 1st date and incredible dispersion in fairness
@@1000Themoment Agreed, but obviously we can only test the models manufacturers can supply us samples of.
For the life of me, I will never understand the love for Ping drivers. They are always shorter and lack ballspeed compared to Taylormade and Callaway. Now, with Titleist finally making amazing drivers and Cobra just getting better every release (except the radspeed), Ping is barely in the top 5. The g430 is just as ugly as they always are, but it finally does sound better. I just can't see spending 500-600 dollars on a driver that is ugly and sounds like drivers from some walmart bargain bin!
Shorter and lack of ball speed? Look at the data at 17:02. Ping G430 Max has 161.4 ball speed and 275 yards carry. Stealth 2 is only 0.1 mph faster and 1 yard longer. Paradym is 0.3 mph slower and has the same carry distance as G430 Max. People also usually buy Ping G430 Max as a fairway finder.
13:20 Also the G430 LST has the highest ball speed and distance out of all drivers.
I didn't mean the ping was outperformed in this video. I was saying in my fittings they usually lack ball speed, and average shorter distance for ME. This is one guy hitting unfit drivers a dozen or so times. That is hardly a comprehensive test. They don't mean it to be. They even say don't make your final decisions based on this video. They also say these numbers could flip on any given day. He hit the Ping well and maybe he should game it. That doesnt mean it will work best for you or me. Just like my TSR3 might not work best for you or him.
I have not seen a test yet showing ping as longest and Nobody can rain in the ™ + and cobra lst Shows the testing is of no use to the average player. That’s just sad 😩🙈⛳️🏌🏼♂️
Sounds like you have some preconceived notions so shoot the messenger. If all review results were the same there would be no need but for one review. I look at a many reviews and try to coalesce them into my own mental summary. I may not have seen Ping G430 LST as the longest before, but it has consistently been long, and usually with a better balance of other qualities (such as forgiveness). As for Taylor Made, the review here was very favorable. But just to show how driver results can vary, no less than Rory McIlroy told his sponsor, TaylorMade, that he does not want to play the Stealth II driver anymore, and wants to go back to the prior model. I don't conclude that the Stealth II is bad, but for Rory it seems so.
Rubbish