Personally, enemy using environmentals in 1v1's means i'll start actively using it as well. I have no qualms readily doing it in dominion though. It's a game mechanic like anything else and it's your responsibility to position yourself.
Being a shugoki main it makes me happy seeing my favorite FH UA-camr playing him and seeing shugoki being not completely bad he seems quite fine now after the CCU
@Kenzo yo im glad your being real about streaming everyday now and posting vids. Its refreshing to see this. I used to give you a lot of shit about being fake about how much ypu actually stream, but you have really been stepping up your game. Stay true to your dream!
Bro, that tracking of the hug on the 3rd round of the first match was insane! I had no idea if you waited for the roll it would still catch! Nice work Kenzo, solid duels like usual.
I find it disheartening when people get mad about game mechanics. Environmental kills may be seen as "cheap" but that shits real. It gives a little more realism to the game. Plus, it gives players with less skill an option for survival.
@@txctikal264 I mean the only way you'd get hit by an environmental is if you positioned yourself nearby; which is your fault. It's a game mechanic like anything else, and using it doesn't make you unskilled, just means you outplayed your opponent in the terms of spacial awareness which is also important in a fight.
@@TehRandy1 PoSItIoN YoUrSeLf BeTtEr. Sometimes your positioning can change quickly in a fight completely beyond your own control. Ledging is a cheap way to get a win. Unless the heavy you would have gotten off the gb would have won you the game, using ledges to win tells the opponent that you were desperate and couldn't have won otherwise.
The only way that I could see environmental kills as being troll-ish would be if the person was trying to do an environmental kill every single time. But if it's a one-off or something of that type, then I don't see the issue. As stated above if you don't put yourself into a position for environmental kill then you have nothing to worry about 🤷
I just woke up today on For Honor and noticed new stuff...is the new core combat like making fights last longer and feints right now look really smooth
OOS for your opponents. It's a guarantee top light and charged top heavy. If your timing is slightly off your opponents still gets ups but still it hits.
Before his rework he wasnt that great. Tho he did have the low health 1 shot on demoms embrace tho it cost him health to use. Hes my favorite character but back then wasnt great
I don't know what's the reason for people being mad when they position themselves in a pepega area and then get surprised when they get punished for it. Interactive environment is part of this game and you might as well use them when you can.
And this is why shugo is now the best character in game. Whole point off ccu was to all some back and forth gameplay shugo can still lay on pressure 24/7
Considering you are never fainting of course he would pick someone with a safe dodge attack since all you were doing was spamming heavy to charged heavy or heavy to charged heavy soft feint into hug. As well as the light to heavy variation.
@Rockstar CG when you play 1v1 ledge kills are rare cause most people are there to test there chains and make reads. So yea id say the whole community of high level players see spamming bash as not a very high skill move
Seeing you play shugoki makes me very happy. He is my main and I have 19 reps on him. You might want to watch out for overusing the normal heavies. People are going to start parrying those sooner or later
Gotta disagree with you on that, its not just about "honor" its also about the fact that it defeats the purpose of using skill and tuition to win in a duel.. just ruins the flow of the entire fight. And the whole "its a game mechanic" doesn't really make sense, by that logic that means bash spamming and using lights without throwing any sort of skill-based mixups or feints is completely fine and acceptable, although in reality its brain dead. Just my look on the matter tho.. you can ledge all you want, I can't really stop ya, but expect some backlash.
@@ohok823 A handful of shugokis who never bothered to read his full move set just Light spam=Headbutt=Repeat. Mostly see them in brawl, but they easily beaten once you figure out that's all they're gonna do.
Hello there, i am a average player and play a lots of dominion. I cant decide who to main frist. I stuck between Kensei, Black Prior and the new Warmonger. Can someone advise me who is more intresting to invest my time? I really enjoy then, kensei seems to be the most versatile overall, Warmonger is a chaotic evil Warden with Poison and the Black Prior is the 1x4 god (bulwark is absurd, i discovered that i can "parry" even plunging attacks)
How and why do people get over 500 reps on for honor? Do they have a shit bucket? Are they colonel 100? I don't know. Here's one thing I do know. They main highlander and lawbringer.
I guess sometimes when your rep increases so does the size of your ego 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ (also i literally only found out by watching stargate that 'ego' literally translates to 'I' )
Joe Debois Rep 70 Shugo here. Not really. On paper you can, but against a good Shugo ull get smacked. You can only really gb opening heavy and even that timing is kinda tight, or at least tighter than it sounds lol
honeslty ledging ain’t that big of a deal. it’s part of the game and it’s up to you to position yourself. if your opponent uses the environment one round, smack em the next 🤷🏽♂️
I'll probably get hate for this but the highlander did a plunge attack and then kenzo procceded to ledge them and spam thanks in that situation I'd say kenzo is the salty one
Sugoki is the only character that has so many options from unlockable, GB, let it flow, hug, cancel. No other characters has it. Is the for honor community okay with this.
Yes because Shugoki has all of those options completely destroyed by a simple backroll with no way of catching it. Edit: Plus the Hug is the only move in the game where you can backroll from it, dash forward, and land a top heavy. Its recovery is that bad.
I'm fine with it because at the end of the day if you don't wanna deal with the mixup you can just roll and never get caught by it and most times even get a punish
@@goddessultimecia2460 Interesting, so I should try rolling away. But you don't usually roll away from other character's unblockable but from a sugo. Doesn't that mean his mixup is too powerful to deal with so just roll away
@@noname-sk3hl Not really, for the longest time Shugo's options were reactable to the point you could just sit and wait to see what he would try to do. Shugo mains ended up having to come up with crafty tactics like intentionally missing the sprint heavy out of lock, then locking on and doing a chain heavy just to land a hit. Even now, the hug should definitely have faster recovery because it's plainly ridiculous how much of a punish people get out of running across the map from it. And unlike Warden or Warmonger or Shaman. He doesn't have a chasedown option to punish people for just rolling away from all his offense.
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Personally, enemy using environmentals in 1v1's means i'll start actively using it as well. I have no qualms readily doing it in dominion though. It's a game mechanic like anything else and it's your responsibility to position yourself.
You definitely gotta return the favor that goes for ledging and ganking
You my sir are top comment. But it still is douchy if they do it first 😂
Duels should be a test of skill not a test of who gets to an insta kill first
Riastradh true, but that means your skills in positioning is kakka
@@riastradh Thats not what duels are for. Its a change from Dominion where you have the option to 1v1 , but still can use the environment
"Everybody Gangsta Till Kenzo Starts Saying OK OK"
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I couldn’t have foreseen a better ending lol with that hl 😂
Kenzo avoids ledging his enemies: I sleep
Kenzo DOES ledge his enemies: REAL SH*T
Lmao i felt secondhand nervousness against that Shaman. I hate when you get rematched against a salty player
I'm Brazilian and I watch your channel, your channel is very good
26:22 “gotta stop doing that” *does it literally ten seconds later*
I love shugokis gb punish. Like this angery large Japanese man decided to hit you with a tree he found in his backyard...
That Rome: Total War background music is dope af. Brought back so many memories.
Shugoki brings out the inner demon out of people
Being a shugoki main it makes me happy seeing my favorite FH UA-camr playing him and seeing shugoki being not completely bad he seems quite fine now after the CCU
2:09 " Take a break right there" xD i laughed so hard dude , funny af
7:08 the most satisfying thing to watch.
Thicc boi lookin good🔥
Buff shinobi
I agree with both statements
Highlander: Ledges Kenzo
Kenzo: "So that's how we playing"
1:47 I thought you were about to flawless them with all heavys.
Everyone gangsta until he say 'I got something for that'
@Kenzo yo im glad your being real about streaming everyday now and posting vids. Its refreshing to see this. I used to give you a lot of shit about being fake about how much ypu actually stream, but you have really been stepping up your game. Stay true to your dream!
You got me into warlord your awesome
Bro, that tracking of the hug on the 3rd round of the first match was insane! I had no idea if you waited for the roll it would still catch! Nice work Kenzo, solid duels like usual.
It only tracked because she dodged towards him
He said "there you go, take a break right there
GG kenzo, LOvin your fire content
5 minutes later and I get the notification, awesome.
Sometimes it does that for me, except days later
I got it 2 hours late
Try 3 hours... Im like tf
Better later then never am I right
Yunglord Jay tell Kenzo that :/
"I usually get the hug all the time"
75% of the time it works everytime
I find it disheartening when people get mad about game mechanics. Environmental kills may be seen as "cheap" but that shits real. It gives a little more realism to the game. Plus, it gives players with less skill an option for survival.
Yea I wouldnt too happy if im clapping someone in straight 1s no exploit or cheese just for him to one shot me by pressing two buttons
@@txctikal264 I mean the only way you'd get hit by an environmental is if you positioned yourself nearby; which is your fault. It's a game mechanic like anything else, and using it doesn't make you unskilled, just means you outplayed your opponent in the terms of spacial awareness which is also important in a fight.
Kristian Holovin finally someone who understands 🙌🏽
@@TehRandy1 PoSItIoN YoUrSeLf BeTtEr. Sometimes your positioning can change quickly in a fight completely beyond your own control. Ledging is a cheap way to get a win. Unless the heavy you would have gotten off the gb would have won you the game, using ledges to win tells the opponent that you were desperate and couldn't have won otherwise.
The only way that I could see environmental kills as being troll-ish would be if the person was trying to do an environmental kill every single time. But if it's a one-off or something of that type, then I don't see the issue. As stated above if you don't put yourself into a position for environmental kill then you have nothing to worry about 🤷
Been watching you for about half a year now and been satisfied watching you play!
I just woke up today on For Honor and noticed new stuff...is the new core combat like making fights last longer and feints right now look really smooth
hes got something for that its called throwing hyper armor heavy trades until win. sick moves sure showed that guy
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Back at it, that's right Kenzo 💯
OOS for your opponents. It's a guarantee top light and charged top heavy. If your timing is slightly off your opponents still gets ups but still it hits.
So I’ve got a serious question has there ever been a time when shugoki wasnt op and was actually relatively easy to beat?
Before his rework he wasnt that great. Tho he did have the low health 1 shot on demoms embrace tho it cost him health to use. Hes my favorite character but back then wasnt great
That first kill on Centi had me cheering
The pressure kenzo has with shigoki is just scary
I would've ended up getting all those fights and also heavies parried cause that's easy
@@isseihyoudou4872 ok bud
@@Ryan707_-_ meant to say "lights" if I'm not mistaken
anytime I play shugo thats usually how it goes down.
God I hate Shigoki so much but this video was great. Gotta get them salty people
what effect is that on his character
The executions I beleive is a Halloween one other ones I’m not sure
opinion on his zone?
Kenzo , i haven’t seen anyone else with drip like yours
Why does kenzo make me think of will smith if he had a gaming channel and was good
Any tips to counter shugo?
Good job my man!
Whats that effect he has on shugoki?
I don't know what's the reason for people being mad when they position themselves in a pepega area and then get surprised when they get punished for it. Interactive environment is part of this game and you might as well use them when you can.
And this is why shugo is now the best character in game. Whole point off ccu was to all some back and forth gameplay shugo can still lay on pressure 24/7
how you get that skins
Considering you are never fainting of course he would pick someone with a safe dodge attack since all you were doing was spamming heavy to charged heavy or heavy to charged heavy soft feint into hug. As well as the light to heavy variation.
Love Good ole toxic for honor video in the morning
i feel like environmental kills are just as viable lol. Its annoying but its not like its un-counter-able. Dont get mad.
Yea its there so people who suck at combos can get kills too.. right?
@Rockstar CG when you play 1v1 ledge kills are rare cause most people are there to test there chains and make reads. So yea id say the whole community of high level players see spamming bash as not a very high skill move
@@bonesaw-777 your the guy who plays warzone and stays in one building the whole game huh
@@bonesaw-777 you must not have many friends then. Thats all im getting from that if you own a system
@@limabean4581 savage
Seeing you play shugoki makes me very happy. He is my main and I have 19 reps on him. You might want to watch out for overusing the normal heavies. People are going to start parrying those sooner or later
I swear shugoki has the hardest hitting executions. The only one that can potentially beat him in brutal death blows is probably raider or Jormungandr
lol shugo is only button smash when they removed stamina drain when you get parryed
Shaman bite hurts more than the absolute unit that is shugoki rearranging your spine and lobbing you to the ground like a sack of rocks?
So, how do you actually kill a Goki?
Bashes?
@@Victor37378 I wish they balanced the game in a way that any kind of spam wasn’t necessary
Shugoki is ridicolously OP
wubba lubba lub lub I really hope that’s a joke
People still get mad when getting ledge? My man honor in for honor never existed, that highlander just used a game mechanic
Gotta disagree with you on that, its not just about "honor" its also about the fact that it defeats the purpose of using skill and tuition to win in a duel.. just ruins the flow of the entire fight. And the whole "its a game mechanic" doesn't really make sense, by that logic that means bash spamming and using lights without throwing any sort of skill-based mixups or feints is completely fine and acceptable, although in reality its brain dead. Just my look on the matter tho.. you can ledge all you want, I can't really stop ya, but expect some backlash.
Although all of what I just said I won't really give a damn about on dominion or breach XD
I’ve been using almost only Shugoki since the CCU, man he feels so good to play.
R1
PlayHarderScrub what?
@@ohok823 A handful of shugokis who never bothered to read his full move set just Light spam=Headbutt=Repeat.
Mostly see them in brawl, but they easily beaten once you figure out that's all they're gonna do.
Zeto Kaiba yeah, their lights are extremely reactable and so is the headbutt
@@ohok823 yeah idk how people get away with light spamming with Shugo, never works for me. Even against dom players lmao
You don’t understand how triggering it is to me when someone doesn’t hug as shugoki
Salty FH players- you can’t just use shugo and just bear hug
Shugo- hahahaha bear hug go CRAAAAAAACK
u should move ur facecam more to the left so it’s easier for us to see the gameplay
Hello there, i am a average player and play a lots of dominion. I cant decide who to main frist. I stuck between Kensei, Black Prior and the new Warmonger.
Can someone advise me who is more intresting to invest my time? I really enjoy then, kensei seems to be the most versatile overall, Warmonger is a chaotic evil Warden with Poison and the Black Prior is the 1x4 god (bulwark is absurd, i discovered that i can "parry" even plunging attacks)
Join the club and become a nobushi main hahaha
BP and Kensei (If you know what you're doing) are solid, but Wm probably will be changed in the future so keep that in mind if you're gonna main her.
Kensei and Bp if you dont want to improve at the game. And warmonger better than bp and kensei
Kensei he is easy but super deadly when used right.
@@nurs3826??? Kensei is a great beginner character he helped me get down feinting and parrying you don't know what you're talking about.
How and why do people get over 500 reps on for honor? Do they have a shit bucket? Are they colonel 100?
I don't know.
Here's one thing I do know. They main highlander and lawbringer.
5:33 damn how did that charged heavy hit him if he was dodging? He dodged early?
He dodged to his left instead of where it was swinging.
I remember kingmisty has had the same thing happen
Do a tier listtt!!
can u do a settings videro
Your Shugoki looks so sick
2:55 How 😳😳😳
What is that shugoki range? Tf
I guess sometimes when your rep increases so does the size of your ego 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ (also i literally only found out by watching stargate that 'ego' literally translates to 'I' )
Love the Rome Total War soundtrack
I hated that when shudoki goes for the hug he gets Heath that’s not fair in duels
imagine caring about reddit honor over 1k hours into this game lmao
-> plays Shugoki
-> pretends to care about honor
Sir Chris I don’t get it
That was a tough centurion
Man y'all forget you can GB shugo hella late into his heavies?
Joe Debois Rep 70 Shugo here. Not really. On paper you can, but against a good Shugo ull get smacked. You can only really gb opening heavy and even that timing is kinda tight, or at least tighter than it sounds lol
That was a nuclear revenge.
honeslty ledging ain’t that big of a deal. it’s part of the game and it’s up to you to position yourself. if your opponent uses the environment one round, smack em the next 🤷🏽♂️
Ay good gameplay man, I just wish you would've shown the guy who resubbed for 21! months a bit more love
2:12 lmfao 😂😂😂
That was not my best day 😂 hoping to face you again Kenzo
Poor Zerker, now everyone has hyper armor......
I hate that they nerfed Shugo's damage.
theres a settlement that needs our help ill mark it on your map.
That cup tho 😆
Nice games but shugoki is just op
Not after next update he's getting needed hard no more hyper armor on back breaker.
I always come here to prep myself before battle
In all honesty I don't understand why people don't want to spam hug or use the environment to win. A win is a win. Who cares if they get mad.
The way he fell
I support ur channel just people using shugoki reminds me of why I don’t play this gams it’s toxic
I only ask one thing from you sensei Kenzo
Please play more Shinobi
I swear the Highlander is so fast now
Yup the light are
Sos N thanks lol i thouhht i was going crazy
Sos N its like they took lights from Rochi and gave them to him
Sos N its like they took lights from Rochi and gave them to him
Roc n Jo show! Jochell im pretty sure its even faster than orochi 😂
6:46 😂😂😂😂
I watched the vid only toxic one was Kenzo 😂
Agreed
Found Yeetmonger's youtube account
I wish I could learn from someone as good as you, I'm only just beginning
Hmmmmmm I’m noticing a big lack of Tydes in this one
I'll probably get hate for this but the highlander did a plunge attack and then kenzo procceded to ledge them and spam thanks in that situation I'd say kenzo is the salty one
7:10 oh my lololololololol
Bro. A person in my game was rep 623😭😭
Sugoki is the only character that has so many options from unlockable, GB, let it flow, hug, cancel. No other characters has it.
Is the for honor community okay with this.
Yes because Shugoki has all of those options completely destroyed by a simple backroll with no way of catching it.
Edit: Plus the Hug is the only move in the game where you can backroll from it, dash forward, and land a top heavy. Its recovery is that bad.
I'm fine with it because at the end of the day if you don't wanna deal with the mixup you can just roll and never get caught by it and most times even get a punish
@@goddessultimecia2460 Interesting, so I should try rolling away. But you don't usually roll away from other character's unblockable but from a sugo. Doesn't that mean his mixup is too powerful to deal with so just roll away
@@noname-sk3hl Not really, for the longest time Shugo's options were reactable to the point you could just sit and wait to see what he would try to do. Shugo mains ended up having to come up with crafty tactics like intentionally missing the sprint heavy out of lock, then locking on and doing a chain heavy just to land a hit.
Even now, the hug should definitely have faster recovery because it's plainly ridiculous how much of a punish people get out of running across the map from it.
And unlike Warden or Warmonger or Shaman. He doesn't have a chasedown option to punish people for just rolling away from all his offense.
Yes because you can just roll, 4head
All those reps I’m pretty sure he was playing against Ai
i wonder if kenzo is good or it seems like he is because of shugoki...
Shugo
I think youre the only FH youtuber i watch who still gets salty lol
Kenzo got salty after that loss lmao
7:17 Kenzo gave him what he deserved