Is there a 40g weight under the battery tray on the phoenix V2? I found one on the Phoenix Evolution, after removing it it balanced fine with 3s 2200mAh in front position. btw. great review!
Hmmmm... other than the ESC, there doesn't appear to be anything else in there, but I will know for sure when I remove the battery tray to replace the ESC. Don't see anything in there at this moment.
I like to install a fpv camera + gopro and make It stream the content to my tv or monitor while the plane flys around in a pre programmed flight pattern around my property and perhaps have it autoland when the battery runs low. Would this be a hard project to do?
@@ArxangelRC most likely if it is big enough. Looked into the Volantex Ranger and the Phoenix 2400. Its roughly 7 acres of fairly flat fields. I want to play spy and have it "spy over my roads and such. So for this to be configured I will need a autopilot module, obviously a fpv cam then map out where the plane should go with software? am I missing something. I appreciate all the advice I get, thanks.
@@ceaseanddesist8036 Hey, sorry for the delay! Well yes, you would need an autopilot, a radio control system (controller and receiver), GPS unit, FPV camera, video transmitter, battery, on the ground you would need a monitor, video receiver, perhaps also an antenna tracker, directional antenna, etc., and only then will you get to the software, but first you would need to fly the plane and configure it, tune it a bit, so it can fly reliably.
@@ArxangelRC thanks. Right now I am just training how to fly the beginner rc gliders. Once I got a good hang of it I will get used to something bigger and start my project.
Well since this has the motor in the nose, I don't recall having to use elevator reflex on launch, but then I also had an autopilot in it. Try 2mm up, won't hurt, you can always remove it, if its too much.
never a problem im always truthful i have a head injury which makes me type what i'm thinking cant do any different, if its crap i will say without a thought lol
Hi, i want to ask if I could put un 3s 2200mah battery on the top of the wingspans (the metal part) to help the cg so I use dual battery, do you think that the 3s 2200mah battery fits there?
@@bbk5424 There are markings on the wings, if I am not mistaken! Balance it as close as possible to neutral... with very slight nose down tendency! I usually go for straight neutral... I do not mind a neutral plane, improves efficiency a little bit!
Well this is slower, and it has more relaxed flight, and a lower stall speed, the ASW has thinned wings and a smaller chord, has higher stall speed and is faster, keeps you on your toes! :)
The stock motor is OK, though it does get just a tad bit warmer than what I am used to on my larger FPV planes, but the limited cooling is probably a factor in this situation! Ideally I would recommend a motor of around 700-800Kv on 4S, and a larger prop than this one, to get some good efficiency, if you are after that sort of thing! Volantex do have an 850Kv version of this motor, and I will try to get a hold of one of those, so I can test it as well, and have made a recommendation to them to include it in the PNP sets... or perhaps as an option, for people wanting to go 4S, since the 1050Kv this comes with now, is officially rated for 3S.
I'm a beginner and I've been training on my Apprentice s15e and want to get a powered glider is this a good glider to start and grow with? My other choices were the Conscendo Advanced and Night Radian?
hello there...... i want to buy the (Volantax Phoenix V2 759-2 2000m Wingspan EPO Sport Glider RC Airplane KIT) how bean posible the 759-2 pnp have flaps and the 759-2 kit dont have flaps at youre links? this is the same model i think? its mistake at the page of the bangood?
Well... depends on what the goal is! I like how the Phoenix handles and flies a bit better, and that view from the tail is absolutely stunning... but if you need an unobstructed video from the plane, then the Ranger is the one to go for... plus it is a bit more convenient for FPV, because the motor is at the back, out of the way of the nose and any cameras you might want to mount there.
2 things, just like the asw28 from same manufacturer, you have to set the escape brake or you cannot glide correctly because of the propeller continuing to rotate and braking the plane. Second point is the GC balance where you almost have to remove the wheel and it's foam so you can put the battery further in rear. That will spares you to add weight at the far rear.
I have gotten the programming instructions for the ESC from Volantex, so will enable the break on their ESC, but I will be replacing it at some point, as I don't really trust it. As for the CG, I do like the wheel and the cover for it, so will not be removing them, but rather than just adding dead weight at the back, I do have some other plans for this plane which should make it a bit more interesting and still solve that CG issue! :) Not sure about the wing area, will have to ask!
I enjoy your reviews but I like most of them I see..... lol, but I like yours enough that when I do start buying I'll do it w/ your links to help you. I've not made it past the Transmitter stage yet and I'm about to check out your offerings in that area so I kinda know what I might want/need? good review
Thank you! VERY appreciated! :) As for the transmitter... depends on what you want to do with it... but I am quite happy with my Taranis X9D, and a lot of people have turned to the Q X7 lately, as a cheaper alternative... although they do end up replacing the sticks pretty quickly... but again, depends on what you need it for!
@@ArxangelRC ~ I went to school for Computer Science so I've done my share of programming & all I'm trying to find out is what "Language" is used? Basic, Fortran Cobol, ect...... or is it something else? But whatever it is they have some name for that discipline of writing. I've got the money to buy most anything & I'll buy at least a 6 channel Transmitter & plan to use for 5 yrs. Yeah, I don't want one that I have to change sticks or a cheap one but I do need to know what they call their "Language" that's used to program.... Is there an industry standard or does each Transmitter Company have it's own unique scripts you must learn? I'm trying to get a feel for what I may be getting into, is all? I want to fly most the time & not be writing programs any more than I have too.... I'm too old to be programming now... lol, thank you for the videos
Actually I have no idea what the programming is written on! You may look into the OpenTX project, perhaps there might be some information! In any case... going with an FrSky radio... I don't think you would need to do much writing... it has all been done, just get it fly!
@@ArxangelRC ~ thanks for the reply, few have even tried because they do not know the answer. DSMX / DSM2 may be the protocol along w/ their own "block language"? I'm not as concerned over the language as I am in not wasting monies..... lol, these Transmitters are fully capable for the average flyer but I get stumped on the Receivers & electronics in some of the components that all have overlapping control over the flight. But they don't use the same terminologies. It leaves one to just jump in blind and work like hell to makes the components work together. I'm trying to buy smart(5 yr Transmitter) & put my money into planes/quads. I thank you for giving the answer your best shot..... I expect the Industry to bring a better/easier option for the new flyers? We shall see & ty for the video.
@@ArxangelRC ~ ty for the answer....lol, what I've learned in my time looking into this is that you basically pick a Transmitter you can afford & you pick it to last like 5 yrs or so. But it is a blind purchase because you really don't know what works w/ what & how much work it'll be to fly and even after that you'll always be trying to fix this or that? I'm pretty close to knowing what I want .... a DX6 or DX9. I haven't got into the receivers yet because their are other components that I may want as well & I'll try to get one that incorporates more functions to my liking... ohh, & ones that work w/ the DX Transmitters. thank you again & I'm sure I'll be watching as you use the parts I end up buying for my plane? peace
That actually goes without saying! All my supporters have my eternal gratitude, I just thought it would be OK not to have the same ending after every single video, because it just gets boring hearing the same thing over and over again!
Hahaha, actually I would think the moto should be something like "The place for your RC reviews", and not a plea for support!! :D But OK, will bring it back in the next one, but will try to change it from time to time so it wouldn't get boring! :)
Phoenix 2K is much better glider, cleaner lines, thin plastic fuselage, no wheel (less weight) The key is a strong, slender, and lightweight airplane, something that this glider is not. Thermals are much easier on the original 2K....
Phoenix 2K is better glider. yeah but the V2 is also a FPV glider and I actually disagree when saying that the purpose of V2 is not FPV. but he will try keep it that way.
Like I said... saves the fuselage and honestly... it hardly adds any weight given how lightweight it is, and with the overall weight of the plane, the weight of the bolt used to hold it is pretty negligible!
Well... the AWS-28 is a glider for all intents and purposes. This one acts well as a glider, but does also very well as an FPV rig, and could work well for mid-range flying too.
Sweet, I love the Phoenix V1 very much, looking forward to getting my paws on one of these :)
Awesome! :)
Right on !!! Can always count on you for a through no nonsense review.
Thanks mate! Appreciate it. :)
Is there a 40g weight under the battery tray on the phoenix V2? I found one on the Phoenix Evolution, after removing it it balanced fine with 3s 2200mAh in front position. btw. great review!
Hmmmm... other than the ESC, there doesn't appear to be anything else in there, but I will know for sure when I remove the battery tray to replace the ESC. Don't see anything in there at this moment.
Great review. I found using a sealing iron on medium heat stopped the decals from peeling.
Yeah, some heat is better for the glue, activates it properly and it becomes stronger!
Great review as usual....
Thanks. :)
can I install an ELRS PWN receiver in it and bind it with my radiomaster boxer?
I like to install a fpv camera + gopro and make It stream the content to my tv or monitor while the plane flys around in a pre programmed flight pattern around my property and perhaps have it autoland when the battery runs low. Would this be a hard project to do?
Well... depends. How big is your property? Would you have direct line of sight to the plane from where you will be at all points during the flight?
@@ArxangelRC most likely if it is big enough. Looked into the Volantex Ranger and the Phoenix 2400. Its roughly 7 acres of fairly flat fields. I want to play spy and have it "spy over my roads and such.
So for this to be configured I will need a autopilot module, obviously a fpv cam then map out where the plane should go with software? am I missing something.
I appreciate all the advice I get, thanks.
@@ceaseanddesist8036 Hey, sorry for the delay! Well yes, you would need an autopilot, a radio control system (controller and receiver), GPS unit, FPV camera, video transmitter, battery, on the ground you would need a monitor, video receiver, perhaps also an antenna tracker, directional antenna, etc., and only then will you get to the software, but first you would need to fly the plane and configure it, tune it a bit, so it can fly reliably.
@@ArxangelRC thanks. Right now I am just training how to fly the beginner rc gliders. Once I got a good hang of it I will get used to something bigger and start my project.
@@ceaseanddesist8036 Sounds good! That is how you should do it - learn first, go big later! :)
Did you toss with elevator at zero setting? Or do you recommend approx 2 mm reflex on elevator.. thanks
Well since this has the motor in the nose, I don't recall having to use elevator reflex on launch, but then I also had an autopilot in it. Try 2mm up, won't hurt, you can always remove it, if its too much.
nice clear and to the point as always top marks
Thanks mate! :)
never a problem im always truthful i have a head injury which makes me type what i'm thinking cant do any different, if its crap i will say without a thought lol
Hmm... even without a head injury I wish more people would be like that! To hell with political correctness... ahem... I mean forced hypocrisy!!!
Thanks for the video review!
Very interesting and informative video!
Thank you! Appreciated! :)
Hi, i want to ask if I could put un 3s 2200mah battery on the top of the wingspans (the metal part) to help the cg so I use dual battery, do you think that the 3s 2200mah battery fits there?
No idea if it fits there... but you can try... it might!
ArxangelRC ok, I have one more question how should the cg look on it?
@@bbk5424 There are markings on the wings, if I am not mistaken! Balance it as close as possible to neutral... with very slight nose down tendency! I usually go for straight neutral... I do not mind a neutral plane, improves efficiency a little bit!
ArxangelRC thanks fore your time
@@bbk5424 You are welcome! :)
Great video!😊 . How does this compare to the volantex 2.6m aws glider?
Well this is slower, and it has more relaxed flight, and a lower stall speed, the ASW has thinned wings and a smaller chord, has higher stall speed and is faster, keeps you on your toes! :)
awesome review! What motor you'd recommend? Also, how do you like the stock motor?
The stock motor is OK, though it does get just a tad bit warmer than what I am used to on my larger FPV planes, but the limited cooling is probably a factor in this situation! Ideally I would recommend a motor of around 700-800Kv on 4S, and a larger prop than this one, to get some good efficiency, if you are after that sort of thing! Volantex do have an 850Kv version of this motor, and I will try to get a hold of one of those, so I can test it as well, and have made a recommendation to them to include it in the PNP sets... or perhaps as an option, for people wanting to go 4S, since the 1050Kv this comes with now, is officially rated for 3S.
Great helpful works thank you !!! Thumbs up and greets! Frank
Glad I can help! :)
I'm a beginner and I've been training on my Apprentice s15e and want to get a powered glider is this a good glider to start and grow with? My other choices were the Conscendo Advanced and Night Radian?
Sure, this is pretty good to start with! Very easy to fly!
hello there...... i want to buy the (Volantax Phoenix V2 759-2 2000m Wingspan EPO Sport Glider RC Airplane KIT) how bean posible the 759-2 pnp have flaps and the 759-2 kit dont have flaps at youre links? this is the same model i think? its mistake at the page of the bangood?
They both have flaps! Don't worry about it! :)
What type of camera was on the glider thanks
Initially it was the RunCam Swift Micro, then one of the Splits! Links are in the video description!
As always a great review, did the motor get hot on this model? i guess you add the voice over commentary to video back at the office
Haha, yeah, audio is recorded separately! :) The motor does get warm, not hot. :)
what is the original holes spacing in the motor mount ?
Sorry for the delay! The holes are 23x23mm on the square, and 32mm diagonally.
Great review. Thank you
Thanks! :)
how it behaves in terms of wing tip stall?
None that I could achieve, despite trying! Of course, so long as CG is right!
could you make a vid on how to properly ajust and install the servos, mostly the setup to get most movement
Aren't there any videos out there showing this?
@@ArxangelRC there are some but never in exclusive detail and made on volantex as an example as they seem to be wierd some times
OK... will consider making a video on this topic specifically! :)
What radio/controller are you using?
The FrSky Taranis X9D.
@@ArxangelRC is x9 lite s okay?
@@amadeuspati980 Have never tried it, should be. Supposedly its the same module in there, running at the same output power.
Hi, whats better beetwen vooantex ranger 2000 vs phoenix ?
Well... depends on what the goal is! I like how the Phoenix handles and flies a bit better, and that view from the tail is absolutely stunning... but if you need an unobstructed video from the plane, then the Ranger is the one to go for... plus it is a bit more convenient for FPV, because the motor is at the back, out of the way of the nose and any cameras you might want to mount there.
Interesting to see that the G2 had a better efficiency :)
Well... as I mentioned, the G2 is a lot smaller and lighter, so it should be more efficient. Different class of plane. :)
Yea, that's true :)
2 things, just like the asw28 from same manufacturer, you have to set the escape brake or you cannot glide correctly because of the propeller continuing to rotate and braking the plane.
Second point is the GC balance where you almost have to remove the wheel and it's foam so you can put the battery further in rear. That will spares you to add weight at the far rear.
So it weighs like my asw28. What is the wing area? To check if it gots lower wingload than the asw28 or not, and so if I change my glider or not.
I have gotten the programming instructions for the ESC from Volantex, so will enable the break on their ESC, but I will be replacing it at some point, as I don't really trust it. As for the CG, I do like the wheel and the cover for it, so will not be removing them, but rather than just adding dead weight at the back, I do have some other plans for this plane which should make it a bit more interesting and still solve that CG issue! :) Not sure about the wing area, will have to ask!
ive never flown one before but ive flown on a sim on my phone...im going to jump straight in and buy a 4 channel rtf cessna then one of these
Not a bad choice! :)
A good review.
Thank you! :)
I enjoy your reviews but I like most of them I see..... lol, but I like yours enough that when I do
start buying I'll do it w/ your links to help you. I've not made it past the Transmitter stage yet
and I'm about to check out your offerings in that area so I kinda know what I might want/need?
good review
Thank you! VERY appreciated! :)
As for the transmitter... depends on what you want to do with it... but I am quite happy with my Taranis X9D, and a lot of people have turned to the Q X7 lately, as a cheaper alternative... although they do end up replacing the sticks pretty quickly... but again, depends on what you need it for!
@@ArxangelRC ~ I went to school for Computer Science so I've done my share of programming & all I'm trying to find out is what "Language" is used? Basic, Fortran
Cobol, ect...... or is it something else? But whatever it is they have some name
for that discipline of writing. I've got the money to buy most anything & I'll buy
at least a 6 channel Transmitter & plan to use for 5 yrs. Yeah, I don't want one
that I have to change sticks or a cheap one but I do need to know what they
call their "Language" that's used to program.... Is there an industry standard or
does each Transmitter Company have it's own unique scripts you must learn?
I'm trying to get a feel for what I may be getting into, is all? I want to fly most
the time & not be writing programs any more than I have too.... I'm too old to
be programming now... lol, thank you for the videos
Actually I have no idea what the programming is written on! You may look into the OpenTX project, perhaps there might be some information! In any case... going with an FrSky radio... I don't think you would need to do much writing... it has all been done, just get it fly!
@@ArxangelRC ~ thanks for the reply, few have even tried because they do
not know the answer. DSMX / DSM2 may be the protocol along w/ their
own "block language"? I'm not as concerned over the language as I am
in not wasting monies..... lol, these Transmitters are fully capable for the
average flyer but I get stumped on the Receivers & electronics in some of
the components that all have overlapping control over the flight. But they
don't use the same terminologies. It leaves one to just jump in blind and
work like hell to makes the components work together. I'm trying to buy
smart(5 yr Transmitter) & put my money into planes/quads. I thank you
for giving the answer your best shot..... I expect the Industry to bring a
better/easier option for the new flyers? We shall see & ty for the video.
@@ArxangelRC ~ ty for the answer....lol, what I've learned in my time looking
into this is that you basically pick a Transmitter you can afford & you pick it
to last like 5 yrs or so. But it is a blind purchase because you really don't
know what works w/ what & how much work it'll be to fly and even after
that you'll always be trying to fix this or that? I'm pretty close to knowing
what I want .... a DX6 or DX9. I haven't got into the receivers yet because
their are other components that I may want as well & I'll try to get one that
incorporates more functions to my liking... ohh, & ones that work w/ the
DX Transmitters. thank you again & I'm sure I'll be watching as you
use the parts I end up buying for my plane? peace
Nice video. Good info.
Thank you! :)
Is it good for thermalling?
Yeah, especially if kept light!
love it!
Thanks!
Put a penny or small tungsten weight on the tail.
Sure, but I always hate adding dead weight to planes.
@@daviddou1408 I don't consider cameras dead weight... they have quite a bit of value, when I later want to share videos from said flight!
What? We don't get your eternal gratitude for using the links in the description any more?
That actually goes without saying! All my supporters have my eternal gratitude, I just thought it would be OK not to have the same ending after every single video, because it just gets boring hearing the same thing over and over again!
ArxangelRC Well, that is true. But to me it already felt like it's your motto! ;)
Hahaha, actually I would think the moto should be something like "The place for your RC reviews", and not a plea for support!! :D But OK, will bring it back in the next one, but will try to change it from time to time so it wouldn't get boring! :)
amazing
:)
В школе такое же произношение было. Не возможно слушать...
OK :)
Phoenix 2K is much better glider, cleaner lines, thin plastic fuselage, no wheel (less weight)
The key is a strong, slender, and lightweight airplane, something that this glider is not. Thermals are much easier on the original 2K....
Perhaps... but I still like this one, and I haven't had any contact with the previous one... so can't really compare!
Should I start with this pane or Radian? I want a good plane I can grow into and not have to upgrade.
Phoenix 2K is better glider. yeah but the V2 is also a FPV glider and I actually disagree when saying that the purpose of V2 is not FPV. but he will try keep it that way.
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Firsstttt :D
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Who needs a wheel! Waste of time
Other versions dont need it
Adds more weight
Like I said... saves the fuselage and honestly... it hardly adds any weight given how lightweight it is, and with the overall weight of the plane, the weight of the bolt used to hold it is pretty negligible!
May I know how ghis compares to the volantex aws-28 glider
Well... the AWS-28 is a glider for all intents and purposes. This one acts well as a glider, but does also very well as an FPV rig, and could work well for mid-range flying too.
@@ArxangelRC thanks man！
@@21y1ihuangzhongyi6 :)