Making a perfect drum loop is difficult enough on Audacity, let alone physically cutting an actual tape and splicing it and then doing what those guys did ! Amazing !
I started out doing drum loops on Audacity and it took me ages get them right as they were too short or long. These guys must have spent hours spicing the tape and putting it together.
You wanna know about splicing tape? Look at what the Radiophonic Workshop did. They made songs by splicing every single note of a beat together, and then splicing those blocks together in a specific sequence to make up the song, in multiple layers done on seperate quarter inch tapes.
I’m not a historian but there’s a possibility that Tom Scholz of Boston was doing this even earlier. In a way, I feel bad for the current generation that’s blindly unaware of what it took to make music back then. Tom played ALL the parts, didn’t like the timing and track by track spliced the tapes to make it work. Next time you listed to Foreplay/Longtime try to think about that and what an MIT grad and Polaroid employee was able to pull off all on his own.
Nearly 50 years later and that song (and album) still totally stands the test of time. Great songs regardless of being disco or whatever you want to call it. And the technology and innovation behind it is absolutely astounding. Plus, those three brothers sang like a unit that to this day is unrivaled in many ways. Brilliant.
Back in the days things were really difficult to conceive, improvise, juggle etc with limited technology. The sheer mettle in the intelligent forethought brought out such immeasurable classics. Hatsoff. My deep respects to the time & the innovators. Beegees, no words. Timeless.
I believe the guy with the long hair is producer Alby Galuten. Certainly a legendary music producer! I first heard of him when he worked with Jellyfish and Agnes Stone. Again LEGENDARY! I would love Mr. Galuten to do a video talking about his experiences with Jellyfish and Agnes Stone🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Great work !
I just saw the Bee Gees documentary in CNN and I was mesmerized about this improvised invention. I heard the song in 1977 and I never could imagine the trick of the drum. I remember the movie and the songs as part of my young years.
Whoa! This was all analog and physically splicing the audio tape! Now, you just digitally edit. I'm very impressed. Yup, necessity is indeed the mother of invention, no matter how far-fetched it may sound!
Even for us in Indonesia, the song was legendary one, impossible to simply forget...these great men were behind this song, big salute to them, big salute to the Gibb brothers!
As a huge fan I think that great part of the magic of the second half of the 70's Bee Gees albums is due to the genius of Alby Galuthen and Karl Richardson
How you imagined it would be as a kid back then and the realisation of how it was actually implemented in the studio using a improvised tape looping method... Truly fantastic.
Whoa! That's SO cool! I never would've guessed that the beat for “Stayin' Alive” came from the beat for “Night Fever”! They did what they had to do and it worked amazingly well!
It's brilliant as an idea! The wonderful things that can be created and developed in the studio, all the magic takes place from this place. Thank you for this very beautiful discovery!
Fantastic! Dennis and I did this in Nashville in 2012. We recorded a new Dennis' drum part with a middle '70's MCI on two inch tape/16 Track. We used a super heavy mic stand (freestanding) with sandbags over the base on the floor. Worked great. The inventive spirit of you guys back in the day is still astounding! Iconic track and even a better story. Bravo!
The cool thing about staying alive was it was never sang or recorded by any other group except for the Bee gees....like most songs stayin alive was a masterpiece of a song credit to blue weaver and the other guy's 👍
I agree that this is insane engineering vision but i disagree with the statement on todays world. Today, you have to be insanely precise with everything you do and you have to master and combine multiple genres in order to be innovative with less studio personal and money. It's simply a different approach than it was but both require talent and much, much hard work.
Considering what Is considered music these days, This is Genius and it's easy on the ears doable, I can accept this easily, Today's music? Not all There's alot to question when talent is the key factor,
We use to also do this also back then... Some loops where so long we had to use a mic stand far from the machine to give the right tension for the tape to roll..hehe We where all praying until the transfer of the loop 2 track was print on the 16 track tape..hehe With good old Ampex mm1000..
Brings back fond memories of bedroom cassette splicing sessions lol. It was very rewarding to create or restore things you wanted to hear by using your brain, hands and lady luck. Interesting having lived long enough to experience rapid technical (r)evolution. Feel like a damn vampire sometimes.
this is an excerpt from the first official documentation Bee Gees How can you mend a broken Heart published in 2020. You have to go all together then you know how it was created. A must see for Bee Gees fans.👍👍👍🙋♀️
Ive done a ton of splicing tape and it is truly tedious - finding the right second, cutting, and then taping it again to the exact right spot. It is physically and mentally exhausting. Thats the way it was done then! These guys did an incredible job, so perfect.
Because it's not new. Most of the fans have always known this. And it was never a secret. Even in those days when times were desperate you need some desperate measures to get things done on time.
Other songs that took drums from another song and made something else out of it: Graceland - Paul Simon (All those songs were a patchwork of long jam sessions with South African musicians and there was one he didn't like but he kept the drums) I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2 (Larry still played drums but the drums were taken from a throwaway track called "The Weather Girls") Trouble - Lindsey Buckingham (Mick Fleetwood did play that part but the animosity was so tense that only 4 bars got recorded)
This was so cool...i'm more interested in the weight that was used on the tape loop to keep the tension on the tape...bloody innovators...any more on this story...I could watch this kind of stuff for hours.
I never realized that the beat of Staying Alive was made with a loop. Yet it is not the first track in History that has been recorded that way. The Beatles did it a decade before with the song Tomorrow Never Knows.
This was because they were pressed for time because there was a hard deadline for the soundtrack of the movie Saturday Night Fever that was soon to be released in theaters
@@denniseudela411 YUP! CORRECT-O-MUNDO DENISE!!! That was the trademarked named of the said 'double-headed monster' production company that the three Gibb brothers used from 1976 to about 1981. That seems like an incredible SHORT amount of time, the 'monster' had to wag his big ol' Godzilla, Hit-Making Machine Tail around, but Barry also used Rich & Al for recordings with brother Andrew (Flowing Rivers, Shadow Dancing, After Dark), Dionne Warwick (Heartbreaker), Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton (Islands in the Stream), Frankie Valli (Grease), etc, etc, etc... BolsaChicaRadio
I'm a keyboard player who just learned Africa to perform it. Since we don't have two keyboardists, I am covering roughly six different sounds myself. I had to do some clever layering and detuning to get it all to where my two hands can play it. When you really listen close to that song, and break it down in order to program the sounds and play them, you can hear how intricate it is.
People pushed to the limits can do special things, something it's never been done before. Let me rephrase it, awesome ppl can do amazing things when they're pushed t0 their limits
Pro musicians and orchestras are still recorded every single day all around the world. You hear them in your music, movies, TV shows... They aren't going anywhere
@@dugroz if they hadn't done this, they would never have finished the songs that relied on that tape. Then Saturday Night Fever would have never sounded the way it did and perhaps never would be as big as what it became.
The drum of this song are played by steve gadd. Include of words, how deep is your love, night fever and i started a joke. But he'd still love tony williams, i dont know why even he's a level
I had no idea it was a drum loop. Crazy seeing the guy on the other side of the room keeping the tape steady. Did it really need to be that long to hold just two measures of music?
These people should at the background should get royalty fee from Barry because they play impt role in their music. Mr Barry should give millions to his music assistants.
Nonsense. It's nothing to do with Barry to pay them 'millions', it's the record company that does that. And by the way, Barry himself was already involved in the process of choosing the right beat to tape together. And you won't get millions unless you actually write the song. They have made enough to retire on anyway.
Albhy Galuthen AND Karl Richardson were Karlbhy production ,the producers AND engineers of the BeeGees albums, Andy Gibb's albums, Bárbra Streisand's Guilty álbum, Dionne Warwick's Heartbreaker AND many more, their name Is duly AND prominentely credited in the Vinyl, cassettes, cds, and I'm sure they were well paid by the récord company RSO/Polydor, those albums sold hundreds of millions
ok, but the lyrics were recorded in the main staircase of the Chateau d'Hérouville France. the sound of this castle is exceptional ok, mais les paroles ont été enregistré dans l'escalier principal du chateau d'Hérouville France. la sonorité de ce chateau est exceptionnelle.
Albhy Galuthen AND Karl Richardson were Karlbhy production,credited as the main producers AND engineers on the Beegees albums, Andy Gibbs albums, Barbra Streisand's Guilty AND a Lot More, The Beegees were the writers of the songs
This was the most freaking satisfying thing I have ever seen
Hope it gets better bro🤣
@@Swizzenator 🤣
@@Swizzenator HAHAHAHAHA!
You must be referring to how they looped that tape over a boom stand, around a reel, and back over the stand. That WAS cool!
you don’t get out much do ya?
He's reunited with his mother now. R.I.P. Dennis. You'll never be forgotten. ❤
Making a perfect drum loop is difficult enough on Audacity, let alone physically cutting an actual tape and splicing it and then doing what those guys did ! Amazing !
I started out doing drum loops on Audacity and it took me ages get them right as they were too short or long. These guys must have spent hours spicing the tape and putting it together.
You wanna know about splicing tape? Look at what the Radiophonic Workshop did.
They made songs by splicing every single note of a beat together, and then splicing those blocks together in a specific sequence to make up the song, in multiple layers done on seperate quarter inch tapes.
Imagine splicing videotape for a living and when you are bored you just splice a single frame porn into a family film. His name? Tyler Durden :)
@@patrickd9551 rip
I’m not a historian but there’s a possibility that Tom Scholz of Boston was doing this even earlier.
In a way, I feel bad for the current generation that’s blindly unaware of what it took to make music back then.
Tom played ALL the parts, didn’t like the timing and track by track spliced the tapes to make it work. Next time you listed to Foreplay/Longtime try to think about that and what an MIT grad and Polaroid employee was able to pull off all on his own.
RIP to a legendary human and drummer! Hope you’re drumming in the sky now uncle :) -Dennis’s niece.
I can imagine Dennis's face when they told him
"We hope you don't mind but we used you're drumming for a... number 1 disco hit"
Nearly 50 years later and that song (and album) still totally stands the test of time. Great songs regardless of being disco or whatever you want to call it. And the technology and innovation behind it is absolutely astounding. Plus, those three brothers sang like a unit that to this day is unrivaled in many ways. Brilliant.
We need a longer version of this video.
Go watch the documentary
@@magg93 how? Where?
@@carlosvelasquez9922 It´s on HBO
Its a documentary called THE BEEGEES: HOW CAN YOU MEND A BROKEN HEART by Frank Marshall on HBO
@@Jordan6002 Thanks :)!
that was fucking incredible.. youtube is treasure trove .. sampling before sampling.
Super cool.
Back in the days things were really difficult to conceive, improvise, juggle etc with limited technology. The sheer mettle in the intelligent forethought brought out such immeasurable classics. Hatsoff. My deep respects to the time & the innovators. Beegees, no words. Timeless.
I believe the guy with the long hair is producer Alby Galuten. Certainly a legendary music producer! I first heard of him when he worked with Jellyfish and Agnes Stone. Again LEGENDARY! I would love Mr. Galuten to do a video talking about his experiences with Jellyfish and Agnes Stone🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Great work !
Yes, that's Albhy.
Now I understand... the steadiness of the beat in that song is too good to be true
I just saw the Bee Gees documentary in CNN and I was mesmerized about this improvised invention. I heard the song in 1977 and I never could imagine the trick of the drum. I remember the movie and the songs as part of my young years.
That’s so beautiful how an piece of history that transcends time was made
I'm Barry gibb's official imitator! I bet no one can imitate Barry's falsetto like I do!!! My cover Lex Lecoq Staying Alive!!!
this gentlemen had the Midas Touch ......because they created absoluted GOLD!!!!
Whoa!
This was all analog and physically splicing the audio tape!
Now, you just digitally edit.
I'm very impressed.
Yup, necessity is indeed the mother of invention, no matter how far-fetched it may sound!
Even for us in Indonesia, the song was legendary one, impossible to simply forget...these great men were behind this song, big salute to them, big salute to the Gibb brothers!
I am flabbergasted!!! Over 40 years being in the dark. I finally see the light! THIS was amazing!
one of the best albums ever made.
As a huge fan I think that great part of the magic of the second half of the 70's Bee Gees albums is due to the genius of Alby Galuthen and Karl Richardson
How you imagined it would be as a kid back then and the realisation of how it was actually implemented in the studio using a improvised tape looping method... Truly fantastic.
One of the best disco tracks imo, absolute genius, fascinating stuff back then 🔥🔥👌🏽
I think song writers/sound mixers are genius people.. 👍
Whoa! That's SO cool! I never would've guessed that the beat for “Stayin' Alive” came from the beat for “Night Fever”! They did what they had to do and it worked amazingly well!
It's brilliant as an idea! The wonderful things that can be created and developed in the studio, all the magic takes place from this place. Thank you for this very beautiful discovery!
Fantastic! Dennis and I did this in Nashville in 2012. We recorded a new Dennis' drum part with a middle '70's MCI on two inch tape/16 Track. We used a super heavy mic stand (freestanding) with sandbags over the base on the floor. Worked great. The inventive spirit of you guys back in the day is still astounding! Iconic track and even a better story. Bravo!
largest nugget of truth- Never Again Would We Rely On The Liveness
Excellent music brains the Bee Gees were fortunate to have these guys .
The cool thing about staying alive was it was never sang or recorded by any other group except for the Bee gees....like most songs stayin alive was a masterpiece of a song credit to blue weaver and the other guy's 👍
0:30-- It was really nice of Gandalf the White to leave his busy schedule in Middle Earth and help the Bee Gees with that song editing.
😀 😀 😀 WTF!!!
Now that is real engineering and talent. You just don't see that in today's digital world.
I agree that this is insane engineering vision but i disagree with the statement on todays world. Today, you have to be insanely precise with everything you do and you have to master and combine multiple genres in order to be innovative with less studio personal and money. It's simply a different approach than it was but both require talent and much, much hard work.
Today it is routine, that's why they say breaking ground. But technology did it, and talent is still necessary in any creative pursuit.
This drums thud that is great¡
Wow! That’s how it was done!! AMAZING!🤨🎶👍🏾
This song is pure GENIUS!!!
Considering what Is considered music these days,
This is Genius and it's easy on the ears doable,
I can accept this easily,
Today's music?
Not all
There's alot to question when talent is the key factor,
Great BeeGees Doc.on HBO.How can you mend a broken heart
Improvise, adapt, overcome.
We use to also do this also back then...
Some loops where so long we had to use a mic stand far from the machine to give the right tension for the tape to roll..hehe
We where all praying until the transfer of the loop 2 track was print on the 16 track tape..hehe
With good old Ampex mm1000..
Brings back fond memories of bedroom cassette splicing sessions lol. It was very rewarding to create or restore things you wanted to hear by using your brain, hands and lady luck.
Interesting having lived long enough to experience rapid technical (r)evolution.
Feel like a damn vampire sometimes.
That was epic.
this is an excerpt from the first official documentation Bee Gees How can you mend a broken Heart published in 2020. You have to go all together then you know how it was created. A must see for Bee Gees fans.👍👍👍🙋♀️
Whre can we find it ?
@@melvinch oh that you can find at Amazon Prime
Ive done a ton of splicing tape and it is truly tedious - finding the right second, cutting, and then taping it again to the exact right spot. It is physically and mentally exhausting. Thats the way it was done then! These guys did an incredible job, so perfect.
Increíble! Me voló la cabeza ver esto. Hecho con un loop creado manualmente. Genialidad absoluta!
thank you.
A perfect example of how tape looping can form the basic rhythmic bed of a timeless classic...
wohoooo amazing
Why is this not headline news? This is mind blowing.
Because it's not new. Most of the fans have always known this. And it was never a secret.
Even in those days when times were desperate you need some desperate measures to get things done on time.
Gotta be magic when Gandalf is engineering
Other songs that took drums from another song and made something else out of it:
Graceland - Paul Simon (All those songs were a patchwork of long jam sessions with South African musicians and there was one he didn't like but he kept the drums)
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2 (Larry still played drums but the drums were taken from a throwaway track called "The Weather Girls")
Trouble - Lindsey Buckingham (Mick Fleetwood did play that part but the animosity was so tense that only 4 bars got recorded)
Freaking love this song
Interesting video loved that song
The Bee Gees's Drummer, Dennis Byron died today😢 R.I.P. Dennis.😍🙏
Genius
And there is the answer. Creativity died when we stopped smoking inside.
What an asinine statement...
@@ffjsb aw, come on
This was so cool...i'm more interested in the weight that was used on the tape loop to keep the tension on the tape...bloody innovators...any more on this story...I could watch this kind of stuff for hours.
This is incredible
Wow the first loop I guess. Night Fever loop to Staying Alive. Wow! Peace
Beatles did it 10 years earlier.
Legendary tune
Great Work !!
I never realized that the beat of Staying Alive was made with a loop. Yet it is not the first track in History that has been recorded that way. The Beatles did it a decade before with the song Tomorrow Never Knows.
The advantage of using a tape look back is that the tempo remained consistent.
Absolutely marvelous!
Without the talent of the BG's, dating back some decades ago, these guys are nothing.
This is excellent! Thank you. Love this stuff!!! ❤
I got chills
The genius’s behind the scenes.
Listeners had talent back then ☺
This was because they were pressed for time because there was a hard deadline for the soundtrack of the movie Saturday Night Fever that was soon to be released in theaters
Would love to hear all the separate parts isolated.
History.....
Karl Richardson + Albhy Galuten =
A DOUBLE-HEADED ENGINEERING GENIUS...!!!
BCRadio
Karlbhy Production
@@denniseudela411 YUP! CORRECT-O-MUNDO DENISE!!! That was the trademarked named of the said 'double-headed monster' production company that the three Gibb brothers used from 1976 to about 1981. That seems like an incredible SHORT amount of time, the 'monster' had to wag his big ol' Godzilla, Hit-Making Machine Tail around, but Barry also used Rich & Al for recordings with brother Andrew (Flowing Rivers, Shadow Dancing, After Dark), Dionne Warwick (Heartbreaker), Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton (Islands in the Stream), Frankie Valli (Grease), etc, etc, etc...
BolsaChicaRadio
@@BolsaChicaRadio
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…and now every ten year old can do the same thing with Garage Band and an iPad. What a world… :-)
PLEASAE PLEASE PLEASE...
Where's the rest of the video. All of us musicians need it.
Behold the concepts that will replace actual musicians. Turn on your radio for more examples.
Thx God for Fl studio, Logic, Ableton, Cubase etc.
Toto's 'Africa' was put together in a similar way, as was Bruce Hornsby's 'The way it is', I believe.
I'm a keyboard player who just learned Africa to perform it. Since we don't have two keyboardists, I am covering roughly six different sounds myself. I had to do some clever layering and detuning to get it all to where my two hands can play it. When you really listen close to that song, and break it down in order to program the sounds and play them, you can hear how intricate it is.
Jeff P said he could have programmed the drum beat on a Linn LM1 but felt better using a real drum.kit and percussion.
Karl and Albhy are far to modest to mention this, but a key factor in the ability of these guys as producers were their crazy beards
i have a great time playing this song. it's a fairly simple chord pattern, and once you get da groove...
Would love to know where the rest of this interview is.
Hey Karl! Long time no see.
Ironic that a song titled Stayin' Alive would help spell the death of live studio recording.
Well, it helped non-live studio recording stay alive.
unbelievable craftsmen-ship.
The beatles Tomorrow never knows
1st drum loop
so bee gees kind of influenced hip hop, cool
People pushed to the limits can do special things, something it's never been done before. Let me rephrase it, awesome ppl can do amazing things when they're pushed t0 their limits
Never again will we have to rely on musicians...
As great as the Bee Gees are, and even this song, this kind of saddened me. It feels like something has been lost. Something special.
Pro musicians and orchestras are still recorded every single day all around the world. You hear them in your music, movies, TV shows... They aren't going anywhere
@@dugroz if they hadn't done this, they would never have finished the songs that relied on that tape. Then Saturday Night Fever would have never sounded the way it did and perhaps never would be as big as what it became.
Seriously? Even though the song was built track by track, who do you think played the parts? Robots?
yeah, who needs live musicians anyway
Albhy Galuteb is a brilliant musician
Actually the Beatles had already done this on ‘tomorrow never knows’
Bollocks. The Beatles never did any of this actually. You don't know what you're talking about.
I mean the drum loop on tomorrow never knows.
Calm down
@@minniehillbrook8911 go read Geoff Emerick's book. He was the engineer on Revolver.
Yup. And they did it 10 years before the Bee Gees
Losers always trying to get a piece of the Beatles fame. "I did this, I did that..." Writing a book doesn't make it true.
It all makes sense now ... There were no aliens playing. Today we are reinventing the wheel again, making noise ...
The drum of this song are played by steve gadd. Include of words, how deep is your love, night fever and i started a joke. But he'd still love tony williams, i dont know why even he's a level
A bit like watching the creation of Frankenstein's monster.
1:34 I lost it.
that's nuts. Making a tape loop and running it across the room over a metal bar....
What docco Is this?
I had no idea it was a drum loop. Crazy seeing the guy on the other side of the room keeping the tape steady. Did it really need to be that long to hold just two measures of music?
Yeah as the tape was 20ft long.
These people should at the background should get royalty fee from Barry because they play impt role in their music. Mr Barry should give millions to his music assistants.
Are you sure they haven't gotten it?
Nonsense. It's nothing to do with Barry to pay them 'millions', it's the record company that does that. And by the way, Barry himself was already involved in the process of choosing the right beat to tape together. And you won't get millions unless you actually write the song. They have made enough to retire on anyway.
Albhy Galuthen AND Karl Richardson were Karlbhy production ,the producers AND engineers of the BeeGees albums, Andy Gibb's albums, Bárbra Streisand's Guilty álbum, Dionne Warwick's Heartbreaker AND many more, their name Is duly AND prominentely credited in the Vinyl, cassettes, cds, and I'm sure they were well paid by the récord company RSO/Polydor, those albums sold hundreds of millions
ok, but the lyrics were recorded in the main staircase of the Chateau d'Hérouville France. the sound of this castle is exceptional
ok, mais les paroles ont été enregistré dans l'escalier principal du chateau d'Hérouville France. la sonorité de ce chateau est exceptionnelle.
I had no idea.
Tomorrow Never Knows has left the chat
Anyone know if those guys got any writing credit?
Albhy Galuthen AND Karl Richardson were Karlbhy production,credited as the main producers AND engineers on the Beegees albums, Andy Gibbs albums, Barbra Streisand's Guilty AND a Lot More, The Beegees were the writers of the songs
They won Grammys for producing the Saturday Night Fever album, and I believe Galuten was credited for the string arrangements.
Llegué acá por el video de Shauntrack donde deconstruye esta canción.