The Alarming & Swift Death of the NFL Passing League
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Perna pointing out the leagues passing flaws so he can feel better about his own teams passing sucking
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@@Archersforeal lmao
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Passing is down, and running backs are undervalued. Weird.
Vikings about to rip up the league
@@aquafreesh9219 They've been about to for the last 50 years. They are the NFL's bridesmaid.
@@warpdrivefueledbyinsomnia8165 yeah I know but if there’s one thing us Vikings fans are good at it’s getting our hopes up sarcastically
Well the undervalue comes from the abundent amount of RB’s available. Lots more choices at that position than a franchise QB.
@aquafreesh9219 Lol, good luck with that 🤣🤣
In defense of Purdy, the $30m/yr WR dropped an endzone dime that wouldve been one of the best throws of the week
It wasn't Aiyuk's only drop. Had Aiyuk just caught his passes, Purdy's stats would have looked great.
Perna is a chronic 49er hater
@@Eastbayjordan In his defense, Montana and Rice did absolutely banish his team to beyond the shadow realm in January 1990
Purdy looked real good Vs jets d
Ayiuk looked like his 2022 version where he dropped a ton. I'll never forget that gimme jimmy G thru that I could have caught 19 times out of 20. BA needs to be 2023 BA that is why he was paid.
You want the brutally honest truth?
The reason the passing is down is because teams are wildly overpaying mid QBs as "franchise QBs" and then giving them absolute dick to protect them on the O-line, absolute dick to run routes and absolute dick calling plays.
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At least half of the "blue chip (haha) quarterbacks" of late have been 4th round backup bodies, at best.
this just sounds like Carolina 🤣
outside of the overpay bc hes still on his rookie contract
@@eternity2651 But you know they will overpay him in a few years.
Chicagoans are immune to this so-called “change” in football. We see nothing unusual
Idk. Jay Cutler was pretty unusual.
DozenDeuce is correct.
The whole league is playing "Bears football" now, except the Bears, who can't run the damn ball at all, and I don't know who to root for any more :(
I concur
@@MegaBearsFanthat’s what happens when we get rid of our best back since forte
At some point after the 2010s, it was just a matter of time until smart defensive coordinators adjusted
I think it's more along the lines of drafting a certain type of player to match the current trend. Teams have gone so pass heavy defensively they are undersized to stop the run, 10 or 15 years ago most teams were built slow and heavy to stop the run game and the spread became a viable option across the league because defenses weren't built to stop the run outside the numbers. Defenses also have to build for the RPO offense and it leaves you with smaller backers to stuff a true rushing attack.
It's all the scrambling QB's pissfarting around.
That isn't why passing is down. We just left the golden age of QB's and there isn't enough talent to replace it.
@@MMMHOTCHEEZEThis is not true I’m sorry. There are more talented and athletic WR’s and TE’s now then there ever has been. It’s 100% the way defenses are built and coached now it’s all to stop the pass. Dominant defenses have won 5 of the last 6 superbowls.
@@tominator028 no no no he means there aren’t enough talented QBs to replace it. Let’s be real here Mahomes Allen Lamar Burrow and the lot are fun but they aren’t equal as a group to Brady Brees Ben Rivers Rodgers the Manning Bros…all of whom have SBs where as the current group is carried by Mahomes in that dept
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What annoys me is that instead of letting the pendulum eventually swing the other way the NFL will probably pass more rules to make it even harder to play defense
It's a little different this time, because the passing game being down is more on the offense than the defense.
If you take the last 2 years for example, we saw a shift in how teams play the games, the best teams aren't necessarily heavy run teams, but they try to take the lead early and just try to run on their opponents for the rest of the game.
We live in a World currently, where the best way to win isn't to ask your QB to throw the ball 50 times, teams are completely fine with their QB throwing 20 times a game and having 150 Yards if they can just take the lead early, and run the ball on their opponents.
We saw it yesterday, and last year with the 3 best teams in the league, the Ravens, the Chiefs and the Niners.
The gameplay was simple, start strong, run the ball and rely on your defense, and currently it's just the best way to win.
Defense only allowed 10 players at a time Because quarterbacks have it too hard
100%
God, I miss those days. You don't have to look that far back to see them either. 2010 games and ones today look completely different. Almost like you're watching different sports.
@zachschendt7201 you must be Gen Z. I'm used to this current version of football growing up in the 2000s. Sure you had your pass heavy offenses but most teams were at least balance and a lot more run heavy.
The issue isnt that passing sucks. Its that every passing offense is the same. They all come from the same 3 coaching trees. Shanahan, McVay, Reid.
yeah but even those 3 are quite different from each other, how many elite schemers have ever been in the league at one time anyway? Sure maybe it used to be more diverse, but the majority of offenses were bad to mediocre anyway with only a handful of elite ones. I dont think scheme is singlehandedly to blame for the quality of offense
McVay offense is the Shanahan offense and Reid offense is just West Coast with air raid elements mixed into it
You don't know what you're talking about
NFL: "To make the game more passing-oriented, we've decided to ban defense entirely."
WE BRINGING BACK THE FULL BACK🙌
Neck rolls, taped hands, and elbow pads, oh my!
Extra men in the backfield is definitely a trend again. Helps QBs read linebackers better.
Fingers crossed...
Football is back!
Hell yes. It would solve QB injuries and lead to a better running game leading to play action.
Kids todays will never be able to fathom Peyton’s 7 TD opener and 55+ TD season
That shit was boring as hell to watch
And I thought we'd see this easily
Drafted him in the 3rd round that year along with Orange Julius and late great Demaryius Thomas. Was a thing of beauty
I remember that season well. Especially the Denver/Dallas game in Dallas.
@@kee931000just as boring as AP running for damn near 300 in a game
Complaining that too much running is boring is the mating call of the filthy casual.
guy is showing his whole ass here
I want physical defensive struggles. It's far more dramatic
I agree. Running the ball and good defense is great
Or people are just used to the fun looking throws and catches. Not everyone is 40 years old and is nostalgic for the rushing days. Football has most recently been pass dominated, and that’s what most people have become accustomed to.
@@gradeftt1235 - Yes, I already said they were filthy casuals.
This has been my argument for a few years. The pre-nfl football programs are no longer favoring pocket passers and opting for athletic hero qb's and the qb pipeline is now pumping dudes into the league that can't read defenses, don't have good pocket footwork, and never learned how to be true qb, because they always had the option to tuck the ball and run. Now they are in the NFL and they tuck the ball and get knocked out.
Tuck ans run QBs don't usually work for the same reason you cant run a triple option offense: the defensive players are too quick and too smart for it took work often enough to win
@@staidenofanarchy I agree, I would add that you can run option football with great success. The bigger issue is that in order to be a great team, one that can make deep runs, they have to be able to play situational football, they have to sometimes be able to get into a shootout. Sometimes winning is fundamental, strong d and pound the rock. Sometimes it's a QB putting the whole game on their backs. A lot of these new era qb's flat out can't get in a shootout like the qb's of the previous era.
TUA
The tail wagging the dog..I truly hate when the nfl tries to emulate college ball.
Desmond Ridder
I never realized how much QB talent I watched growing up. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben, Rivers, Cam Newton, Not so Dangeruss. Stafford and Eli have 3 super bowls combined. Even the more mid QB's -- Romo top 25 all time passing TD's and Carson Palmer was top 15 in passing yards.
Bo Nix: plays like crap
Brandon Perna: the pass is dead guys!
What going from Peyton Manning to...not...does to a fan
He clearly brought supporting evidence to show that this is a league wide phenomenon 🙄
@@xanders.3810 shut up and let me have fun, nerd
Tbf, it is a league wide phenomenon, Bo Nix sucknng probably just brought it home.
@@joekaput747true, but that area I specifically remember multiple qbs having 300, 400 and some 500 yard games. Brees, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Rivers, Cutler, Brady, Manning, Vick, Bradford, Luck, Stafford, Flacco, Palmer, Warner and even Matt Flynn had a 500 yard game. I think offenses have just changed so much that instead of taking so many risks with deep throws, they are more calculated when they do them
Offenses spent 10 years decimating defenses and I think defenses have finally figured it out. Again, it took most teams 10+ years to figure out how to stop these fast paced offenses, but they did it.
Yep. Sometime in the next few years, some OC will figure out how to get over that two high safety look & offenses will run wild again. That is, until the defenses adjust.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 they have figured it out. Short passes to the open zone spots and big linemen with a power run game. It's just extremely boring to watch.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192they’re going to go back to running the ball
I think 10 years is an underestimate. It's at least 15 by now.
Defense are better for sure, but now we live in a World where throwing the ball 50 times isn't the best way to win anymore.
There used to be a time when you could watch Brady, Brees, Manning & Rodgers every week. We were spoiled.
I remember the days of Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, etc
Every era has great qbs please you old dudes love to romanticize your eras
Hey!!!!...Cabal Williams passed for 93 yards last week!!!!!
Hey. You'll do it too once you get old.
@Iam123-i5j Yeah I liked that gen better. Tougher QBs and league in general. Not the pointless stat padding that went on the next gen when you couldn't touch a QB or WR.
I like how the two shell safeties were intended to stop mahomes but they stopped everyone but mahomes
His numbers have been way down as well
@@jamesnelson8469True but he was also short of weapons last season. I think at least some of the chiefs old explosiveness will be back this season.
Only last season. His worst supporting cast ever. In 2022 he threw 41 touchdowns and won MVP@@jamesnelson8469
@@jamesnelson8469he was down for 1 year but the year before that was his best
@@jayceh 2018 was a year ago?
"Vic Fangio popularized the two-high safety defense."
Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin in 1998: "Are we a joke to you?"
Those two popularize it which is why the 2000s did 2 deep then it went away in the 2010s until fangio brought it back in 2021
I am loving the balance coming back. If a game becomes “solved,” it becomes boring. I don’t think that will happen with the NFL given how complex it is.
It will be solved just like everything else given enough time
Well I think most plays will end up as 50/50s and that just means fun tbh
to be fair i prefer a balance of running and passing games. I hate 40-50+ passing attempts per game. i prefer precision. I would like it to resemble a game of madden, u get a combo of high air play and behind the scrimmage extension of the run game.
Stop calling the running game boring! This is what us NFC fans want to see 🗣🗣
i love watching kenneth walker dance his way up the field while zach charbonnet occasionally trucks the soul out of some poor defensive back. seahawks got a fun running back room!
Boring like TD in the Super Bowl 😂
NFC West should be the home of the running game imho
@@Spartan0430idk why we use zach like a punch up the middle he was elusive in college
Steelers fans still love and yearn for three yards and a cloud of dust
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I'm thankful my Titans finally switched to trying to be a passing team right when the meta finally shifts back to running ❤️
to be fair i prefer a balance of running and passing games. I hate 40-50+ passing attempts per game. i prefer precision. I would like it to resemble a game of madden, u get a combo of high air play and behind the scrimmage extension of the run game.
Because they fumbled the greatest WR in the league
As soon as a QB gets paid, he loses his best weapons to. It’s all fucked up
It always swings back and forth. For a while in the 2000s everyone was an elite rushing offense and then it was all about the ball hawking, physical defense, I remember as it switched and honestly im so insanely glad its going back. I like the idea of some teams being elite passers and some being elite rushers and some with elite defense to all challenge each other
There was a time in the mid 90's through the early 2010's where a QB who would throw 60 yards down the sideline for an incompletion were 100% in fashion. As long as we don't go back to that I'm happy.
Honestly Big Ben, Brady, Mannings, and Rivers and Brees were all field generals with differing skill sets, but they all read the field much better than most do today.
Well, here's something that crossed my mind in '22. i understand why most _fans think_ QBs come shrink-wrapped to the NFL out of college already programmed with all the knowledge necessary to pass like them. But you had guys like Staley, Hackett, Frank Reich who called games like they thought that the opposing defenses they went up against were NPCs.
One wonders if the video game era didn't muck up how some coaches think.
No the lb and DT positions has evolved there much more faster and qbs has less time to make reads and escape the pressure that’s why teams want more athletic qbs more then on time pocket qbs bcuz it’s the off script plays that are becoming more important for big plays bcuz dbs have less success guarding wr longer then 3sec
Bro if you're gonna put Rivers you gotta have Ryan
@@ChewsCarefully i think theres just alot of bad coaches. get hyped up by even worse media.
@@ADUSN so you're going to just ignore the point so you can gripe about missing a name? Are you serious?
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The NFL peaked during the Brady / Manning era.
Turns out, when you can barely practice because of the CBA, quality of play degrades over time. Who woulda thought?
It isn’t that passing is going away, there are just a lot of crappy QBs in the league at the moment.
That part
Also not the best development programs to get starting quality QBs. Bo is older so he should know a little more than most, but like Shadeur Sanders there is just no way he will develop with his childish mentality.
I think it also has to do with D Coordinators becoming better at stopping a high powered passing offense. Took them almost a decade to do it, but they did it lol. Even when you go back 10 years, when Manning and Brady and Rodgers and Brees were tearing it up, there was still A LOT of horrible QB play.
Give this 2024 qb class a few years to mature, maybe get numbers will be higher
This is wrong. Defensive philosophy has changed pretty drastically over recent years to make passing defense more complex, take away deep plays, the best defenses employing bend don't break play styles keeping everything in front of the safeties, way more disguised blitzing and coverage schemes, and separating the field into different schemes to make it as confusing to read as possible for the quarterback. And it's been working. It took a bit, but defenses are catching up to offenses.
It's almost as if the NFL defensive coordinators saw the trend of increased reliance on the passing game and made corrections
Seriously defence has been getting wild with how dbs and the front 7 line up
Running backs seeing a resurgence of their value across the league: 😏🤑🤑🤑💰💰💰
The pendulum swings back and forth.
one thing I think you didnt cover is the size of players in the backfield. defenses are built to stop the pass more than ever, which means theyve de-emphasized size and emphasized agility in its place. Defenses are just smaller. gone are the days of 250+ pound middle linebackers. Washington has a starting corner who was drafted in the first round who was 168 pounds when he was drafted, which was a little controversial only because christian gonzales was still on the board. Teams use nickel and dime packages more than ever. The chargers famously used a 7 db base package against the ravens in the 2018 playoffs. modern defenses are smaller, quicker, and can cover more ground, but they can be had when the game gets physical
Queue up the pass interference and roughing the passer calls.
that doesn't help, and doesn't make football "exciting" to watch like goodell wants. i don't even know what rule changes could be made at this point to favor the passing game. maybe let the OL line up deeper in the backfield?
@@imissryowhy do we need to favor the pass game? Offense in general is already heavily favored in the nfl.
@imissryo long live the defense. Screw offense only, let them figure out how to actually develop a qb and maybe don't take 6 in the first 12 picks. Time for the offense to adjust, the defense has been attempting it for years now.
They will, and by next year offenses will be allowed to start on the 40, and no chasing the QB until you count to five Mississippi...
@@mattbryant8320 i’m not saying we should, but roger goodell himself said that he’s not happy with where offense is rn. so i’m just expecting some rules changes
The line of scrimmage has and always will be important. Possibly the most important part of a team.
We've had Elite QBs in the Super Bowl losing because they have to run for their lives. Biggest recent example to me was the Chiefs losing to the Bucs years ago. The Chiefs line had injuries and was not ready for the Super Bowl. Mahomes looked like he was about to die out there despite trying his best to tough it out and win.
@@Warmaker01 the oline didn't help, but the Chiefs would've won if the receivers just caught the ball
Easily the most important unless you have Daniel jones at qb where you have great blocking, wide open receivers and he still sucks
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The line of scrimmage has never stopped determining games
It's a cycle. In the 80s passing became a major staple of football thanks to players like John elway and Joe Montana, but by the 90s it was all about the run with emmit smith, Barry sanders, and Ricky Watters, and all the best teams being the ones who could run the ball best, even elway won a Superbowl with a 2000 yard rusher when Terrell Davis had his monster season in the late 90s, then in the early 2000s it became a passing league again. But now defenses are designed to stop it slow down the passing game and the running game is becoming more important and impactful than it was a few years ago. The fact they underpay RB's is almost criminal with how defenses allow rushing yards today.
Next year, the NFL will implement a new rule that defenses can only rush the passer after the fifth Mississippi
It's not that elite passing is dead, it's more like elite passing require a lot of things and not just a great QB.
And like the Ravens the Chiefs or even the Bills did last year in the 2nd part of the season, we are trending to a situation where coaches wants to have the ball as much as possible.
And we as fans needs to realize that a QB can have an excellent game and just throw for 150 Yards and 1 TD just like Allen did yesterday or Purdy last week.
Look at New England last week, they have no real passing attack and played that game like it was back in the damn seventies, good D, ground and pound and very selective and safe passes. The old always becomes the new again.
If you have a running back that’s picking up 6 yards a carry, why pass? That’s essentially what the 49ers did.
To be fair the chiefs wantedcto throw the ball more than anyone but they built a horrid wr room for last year. They had no choice but to run it more
@@SycoticForeverNeverAF Yeah I agree, they were bottom 5 in terms of explosive play last year, it will be different this year.
But like we saw against the Ravens, this version of the Chiefs rely on their defense more than ever, and their best version will be when they find the balance between the run game and the passing game.
Dumb
As a lions fan, I’m completely fine with games being decided by the run game and the lines. Let pass first teams get worse please
Im honestly so tired of this.....complain ing about everything, when everyone was passing for 4k yards, it was too easy, defenses evolved which is helping make games more competitive. But no, we want all quarterbacks to throw for 350 yards and 3td, with teams scoring 60s and 70s.....
D coordinators got sick of being shredded for years and put in OT to shut these guys down
Passing is down because nobody plays their starters in a shortened preseason. The offenses don’t gel until week three or four now as opposed to firing out of the gate when the starters knocked the rust off in the preseason.
That's why dancing comes out strong. More time to practice it.
Wrong
I remember listening to someone a couple years ago warning about the downgrade in quality of QBs knowing how to play the QB position rather than just being talented. A good example is pitchers in MLB being able to throw 90 to 100 mph balls, but not knowing how to truly PITCH, and last long in games or not wearing out their shoulder and elbow
One of the reasons Purdy is so good despite, on paper, not fitting what most scouts would call gifted. He understands the game, reading defenses, have just enough mobility to extend plays, vision, accuracy, anticipation, feel in the pocket, intuition...etc. Things the greats like Brady, Manning, Montana, and many other HoFs, and non-HoFs but hads long careers, were able to do to have sustained success
In short, the RPO system becoming so popular, not just at high school but every level, has essentially stunted the growth of QBs development from a young age, and causing the QBs who may not be as physically gifted but knew how to properly play the position end up falling through the cracks
You’re right about the QB take but the pitchers take is bonkers, pitchers are the best they’ve ever been
@@owenflibbert8019 eh debatable. They all need surgeries now, and they throw harder. But their ability to make adjustments and pitch to contact have significantly diminished.
Hopefully this mean RBs can start getting more respect and bigger contracts
I'd argue this is just an example of how the offensive line players are dropping off, and they're dropping off for a reason.
They don't make big money, they aren't the ones people talk about, and they're often shafted in favor of more money for the QB.
So QBs have less time to throw the ball and have a harder time passing because defensive players are rushing in on all angles.
Well...that and they keep clinging to busted QBs like Rodgers thinking they'll singlehandedly win everything for them.
The best linemen get paid better than the best running backs, best tight ends, best d tackles, best linebackers, best safeties by a good margin. Not sure what you’re talking about, tackle in particular is one of the most valued positions in the game.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx
Tackles get paid the most out of the offensive line protecting the QB.
Center gets paid almost five to ten million on average less than a tackle.
Guards tend to come in about equal to a running back.
Tightends actually pull in annually about what the Center does.
Not sure why you're bringing in safeties and all that, I'm talking about Offensive Line, the people protecting the QB so he doesn't get splatted into the ground. Kind of like what happened to Tua last night.
It's the NFL and it's 2024. The people demand non stop highlights, not steady season long consistency and form. We must have our short term gratification again and again.
My two favorite plays in football are running backs, busting long runs, and QBs getting hammered. I'm digging today's game.
Shoulda called this ep Balls Deep into Deep Balls
I'm loving this season! It's like coaches just remembered running backs are kinda good and the Cowboys even had AN ACTUAL FULLBACK.
Growing up a niners fan in the 2010s there is nothing i love more than the run game and defense...
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Brady said this back in June about the current QB play:
"I think the quarterbacking has gone backwards a little bit in the NFL, I don’t think it’s improved. I don’t think the teaching’s improved. I think maybe the physical fundamentals might be a little bit improved because there’s better information out there for quarterbacks to study on mechanics. But I don’t think quarterbacks really are really field generals right now like they used to be."
QB's right now are relying on their legs, so the passing is taking a hit. Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts both had like 15 TDs on the ground. Lamar is closing in on #1 all time QB rushing yards leader and he's still young. What makes Mahomes special is his ability to use his athleticism as well as his sound mechanics.
Josh Allen is every bit of elite as Mahomes is lol. Running doesn't inherently make you bad. Jalen Hurts and Lamar are below average QBs though.
@@TryPuttingItInRice lol funny
@@TryPuttingItInRicewhy doesn't Allen have any rings?
What makes Mahomes special is being surrounded by weapons in a perfect offense from day one and rigged officiating
@@theanimerapper6351 Mahomes couldn't even throw a TD in the SB against Brady.
And at the same time, RBs are the most devalued they've ever been lol.
1989. That's about the time i stopped watching the NFL. I miss the days of Walter Peyton, Earl Campbell, Franco Harris, Chuck Foreman, and Barry Sanders.
Also worth noting that fullbacks are making a comeback.
Offensive coaches increasingly rely on them not just for run blocking but as a necessary check against big name major disruptive pass rushers or when staring down blitz packages
Good defense and an important run game? *prays to Papa Bear Halas* thanks lord.
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Maybe teams will go back to developing QBs before playing them?
No chance
Yea like Pickett
Tom Brady said it best. For whatever reason, the league is dumbing down on offense at the QB position.
The nfl thinks they would rather have QBs who can run and don’t rely on what it took to be a great QB 10,20,30 years ago.
Lmao QBs cant beat cover 2 smh tell that to the good QBs in past decades.
There’s like 4 current QBs who play the game with their minds just as much if not more than they rely on their athleticism.
The best baseball pitchers use their heads just as much as their arm.
What’s happening in the nfl is the equivalent of making mlb pitchers who do absolutely nothing but throw 100 mph fastballs every single pitch the new norm of superstar pitchers…..
Being able to run and throw 65 yard bombs and nothing in between is not what being a good qb is about. But the nfl thinks differently.
Of course passing is going to decline
They have to dumb the game down for the influx of black qb’s who lack the intelligence to grasp the intricacies of sport. Back then. It used to be a chess match. Now it’s just tracing lines for them.
I mean Goff, Stafford, Rodgers, Purdy, Baker, Burrow, Tua, Dak, Kirk.
I mean that's much more than 4. And all of them are/were(prayers for Tua) eye-popping athleticically (some have great arm talent but most of the ones I picked out also are negatives with mobility) and are decent to great at what they do.
@@Dr.J42 If you think Tua plays with his mind then that is very sad
@@Gos1234567 He certainly does more than with his arm and legs. Again not anymore, but still
Because we have more blak qbs
Offensive lines aren’t as good at pass blocking anymore
The difference between QBs then vs now is QBs IQ, playcalling, and weaker O-Lines.
QBs like Peyton were insanely intelligent at reading defenses and making audibles at the line. Playcalling today no longer three level passing (short, medium, long), nowadays a lot of plays are gadget plays and short throws. In addition, a lot of teams try to have a balance offense or emphasize the run. Our elite passers in the pass all had really good offensive lines. Good O-Lines means more time to throw, more encouragement to throw down field.
Probably because teams kept pissing away their money just to keep their QB's happy. You can't pass the ball effectively without an offensive line, and the O-Line is the first thing to go whenever you pay the QB the big bucks. You also can't run the ball effectively without an offensive line, either. Furthermore, more often than not, players who get paid big bucks and especially fully guaranteed contracts don't play as hard as they would have if they were actively trying to earn their contracts. How often does a QB, WR, RB, or defensive back get paid the big bucks, only to stop giving a crap shortly afterwards.
Been saying this for years
Would like to see a percentage success rate comparing drafted QBs and drafted OL in first and second round over last 30 years. Base it on years in the league, second contracts, Pro-Bowl appearances? Then compare that to money spent? Where do you get more value? GMs need to start picking higher and more often for OL positions.
We've finally come full circle to when white plumbers were throwing the football back in the 50s
I mean Zach Wilson still out there. Big plumber energy.
Hallelujah
Tommy Devito was a sign of the return of Italian QBs baby
Boring? The ridicilousness of 50,60 drop backs and 10 runs (8 in garbage time) was just show.
Also the running game these days is more dynamica than the old 3 yards and a cloud of dust. For that thank Kyle Shanahan who's assistanst are as it seems now Head coaches for half of the league,
Whats crazy too is the rule changes over the past decade, the passing game has benefited from 10 fold.
5:20 "We may have peaked in 2018 guys, 847 touchdown passes in a 16-game season"
Buddy, 2-lines down in 2020 - 871 touchdown passes in a 16-game season.
The 2-high safety shell has capped explosive offenses, but also that is not the reason for the low passing numbers early in the season. You can see once the league went to a 17-game season, it dropped. With most teams electing not to play their starters in the shortened preseason, teams use the first handful of weeks to start gelling/get into a groove of the game. Like you mentioned less padded practices per the CBA as well has exacerbated this condition as well.
Also, news flash Perna: Patrick Mahomes.
Just because the Broncos forgot how to gain more than five yards on a passing play doesn’t mean the rest of the NFL did too.
Remember when they started prioritizing quarterback mobility over "standing like a statue in the pocket"? How's that working out for ya?
i mean pretty good. mahomes allen and lamar are the best qbs in the league
the statue qbs like current rodgers, cousins, tua and carr aren’t top of the league guys
@@yerrrrrrrr4567they used to be
@@yerrrrrrrr4567 joe flacco vs deshaun watson. Joe flacco out performed watson in every single category off the couch at 40 years old yet watson gets to keep his role as a starter and is paid exponentially more.
Mahomes is on pace to be the new GOAT and his mobility is a clear game changer. Every other elite QB in the league is mobile (Allen, Lamar, Hurts, Dak) and the successful young players are also mobile (Stroud, Love). The only successful slow players left are probably Goff and Stanford and they’ve done that with some of the best offensive talent around them in the league to carry them.
I'm honestly suprised at how low final scores have been so far. with tons of new penalties and rules over the last few years specifically designed to help offenses, and the new kickoff rule (which bassically just brings the touchback out to the 30) it's not long until the NFL just starts each drive at the opponents 40 like CFB overtime rules
“Run first” is how it’s supposed to be.
This has been so noticeable. Last year Kansas City only scored over 21 points twice in their 2023 regular season and then won a SB. The Eagles and the Niners rely on their ground games to make them solid, and teams like Detroit and LA have found success of a brutal ground game. I think coaches are partly why and I think the amount of dual-passing QBs are why as well.
"Alright fellas, to stop these defenses, we're busting out a 1930s NFL playbook like we're the Springfield Sharks lead by that MVP of 1931, Arthur Q. Magillicuddy, the greatest white RB to ever go from working as a bootlegger to the NFL"
14:31 When did "exasperated the problem" become a thing? Are we not doing exacerbating anymore?
Honestly if the focus on running helps RBs get second contracts I don't mind a few less air yards
Vegas and prop betting has destroyed stats in all sports. There wont be a group of guys having great seasons at the same time prolly ever again. NBA,NFL MLB and any other sport you can bet on, the numbers will never be consistent
Still sunny in KC. Not dark everywhere 🫠
12:24 The REALIZATION
We’re all screwed 😂😂😂
Yet a few years ago, they were complaining about how the whole league had gone air raid
Purdy is an elite passer. Far better than most in the league in accuracy
Finally someone said it. The two main reasons that NFL passing is down is that OLs are currently way outclassed by DLs, and that QBs have recently been valued on their ability to make explosive plays, and not ability to make consistently good reads and throws. The Bears are the perfect example, an OL that couldn’t stop a 4 man rush, much less a blitz, and a rookie QB who was overhyped and rushed in to start Week 1 because of the explosive plays he can produce, despite every other facet of his game being nowhere near other “generational” rookie QBs like Andrew Luck
You have to give some credit to Vick. When he was the Bears def coordinator in 2018, that defense was one of if not the scariest defenses in the league. They put up numbers similar to that of the 85 bears in modern football. Granted that team was gifted with talent in all aspects of the defense, it was Vick's vision of how they were to run. It also was very entertaining watching quarterbacks getting robbed blind and receivers getting pissed off about having the worst week in their career.
Does that mean Matt Stafford is the last of a dying breed of quarterback?
Perna the GOAT
12:20 The genuine pain I hear in this man's voice knowing that Mahomes will be around for another 10ish years
That's all of us who aren't Chiefs fans
I don't see mahomes staying past 2030. He's already stated that he'll leave semi early to be a father to his kids
@@WailfulSeeker82 and thats why tom brady is the goat because you know he would sacrifice his kids to baal for another ring
I love the that the Lions beat the Rams in OT by running the ball 8 out of 9 plays and wearing out the tired defense. It was beautiful. If you were bored by that, I question whether you really like football.
". . . to some extent, big ben." big ben was absolutely elite. i'm pretty sure he's the only qb with back-to-back 6 td games and also has the most 500+ yard games in nfl history. ben is also 5th in nfl history for career passing yards.
blame the Shanahan coaching tree (and those who try to copy them)
We had Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and Brees during the past 20 years, with other great QBs in Rivers, Ryan, Luck, Warner, and (playoffs only Eli). Golden era of QBs
Forgot Russ Wilson when he was young, ad well
@@Phoenix-pm2qr Russ Wilson was the beginning of the end. He was too small to pass in the pocket and had to scramble too much to make anything happen. On top of that, he had too weak of an arm to throw to sidelines so it left the Seahawks in a situation where they had a QB who could only hit TE's over the middle and throw those rainbow deepballs that Kearse and Baldwin somehow came down with. Bryce Young is just Russel Wilson on steroids.
It's been 1 week, chill out man.
offenses are always slow early on compared to defenses
Considering we've only gone through one week and the fact that most quarterbacks get limited play during the preseason, offenses are going to be slow to start out the season. I would wait until week 4 to see where the offenses are at before making some grand conclusion.
That’s why he made comparisons directly to previous week ones and looked at the last few seasons as a whole
this has been happening for 3 years now. go look at qb numbers and scoring over the past 3 seasons it's declined dramatically
Your not understanding ever since gambling has become more popular players are performing less. Last year on fanduel you could only bet QBs for 200 yards. Since no one could get it now you can bet 150 or 175 on most guys because they accidentally made everyone bad
That's why Howie Roseman is living in 2030. People think he over paid for Barkley, but in reality, the RB market is about to boom again and he was just getting ahead of the rest of the league.
The problem is in OTA's. They don't practice as they used to and it shows at the start of every season
Old guy here. Well, if the Chiefs receivers hadn’t dropped 4 balls, MaHomes would have had at least 2 more TDs and gone over 300 yards.
Now that Denver doesn’t have Peyton Manning anymore, HOF QB, and KC has a future HOFer, who is every bit as good as Manning, NOW it’s a problem to have a great QB. Well Mr. Perna, karma is a real BEOTCH!! Yeah MahOmes turns 29 on Sept. 17, 2024. Yeah, I can remember it because I have a daughter birthday on Sept. 15. I think he’s just in the beginning of his PRIME. So all the Donkeys fans can just sit back and enjoy it with all the Chiefs fans. Haha.
If we follow the pattern then the Raiders are about to get a good QB sometime. We cannot allow this to happen lol.
Elite passing is dead because we refuse to allow proper QBs to develop and instead the NFL is locked into "WIN NOW" mode that pushes teams to opt for shitty Hawk Tuas and Kyler Murrays.
And we saw the price of that last night.
I agree with the lack of patience being a huge issue. It takes time to develop a QB. Tua is a good QB though just has concussion problems.
That's not really it.
The first issue is that in college the best prospects usually have a certain way to play the game, if we take Daniels, Caleb, Maye and MPJ for example those are QB that struggle in the short and medium passing games.
If you look at them in college you will see that they have elite arms but they don't train their short gain accuracy and currently this is the most important aspect of a QB in the NFL.
And it's not something you can learn overnight.
And for the elite passing it's not dead because the QB are worse, it's just that it's not the best way to win anymore, if you look at the most succesful teams the last 2 years, the Chiefs, the SF, the Ravens, they aren't playing a pass happy game.
Athletes are actually getting worse for the first time in history. This generation has to many options, video games, social media is the main culprit. Just drive by your local park or playground and it’s empty. 20 years ago if you went to your local park there were pick up games (football,Basketball) going on all day and into the night.
Very true.. I miss those days
Reminds me of how Pakistan started dominating in Tekken / fighting games...they still have a culture of going to arcades to play games but the rest of the world has moved on to consoles / pc gaming...look this up if you haven't heard about it
Not true at all, that’s a joke. These guys keep getting bigger, faster, and much more sound nutrition and exercise info available today.
@@ewmcdade I’ll take Bo Jackson over any RB today and Randy Moss over any WR that’s no joke
@TstanDa-Man You talking about generational players though. Every era has it tier of stars and average players
A lot of teams also seem to avoid play calling for any slant routes, throws underneath, middle of the field 7+ yard passes on 1st down. They have become one note and predictable.