What Happened At The UCI Downhill Test Event In Lourdes? | GMBN Racing News Show

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @gmbnracing
    @gmbnracing  Рік тому +25

    Are you excited for the 2023 UCI Mountain Bike Downhill season?

    • @ThunderStruckMTB
      @ThunderStruckMTB Рік тому +4

      Nice job guys! Man, those youngsters in both the men's and women's are going to be a handful for the vets!

    • @webrappin3314
      @webrappin3314 Рік тому +16

      How we gonna watch it

    • @diogomtb6814
      @diogomtb6814 Рік тому +4

      ​@@webrappin3314 its not free to watch the finished:(😢

    • @anitalandkroon
      @anitalandkroon Рік тому

      Yes 🤩🤩

    • @MrHamncheez
      @MrHamncheez Рік тому +21

      WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THE RETURN OF ROB WARNER

  • @elmomos
    @elmomos Рік тому +27

    Nice to hear some opinions about new race format, but what about to explain it to us for first? Maybe I've missed something in translation...😅

  • @JGRGilbert
    @JGRGilbert Рік тому +12

    Watched this video, but I'm not really clear about what the big changes are.

  • @nickadams8952
    @nickadams8952 Рік тому +24

    Nice one GMBN and Neil. I can't wait to see how Jackson Goldstone fairs in his first season as an elite. He absolutely pinned it at Hardline last year. Rob Warner was beside himself in the commentary box!

  • @bridgiking
    @bridgiking Рік тому +13

    Can you please do a video about where and how to watch the events

  • @supermassivegamehole2269
    @supermassivegamehole2269 Рік тому +14

    would have been good to tell us what the format changes are...

    • @delaneywaltman
      @delaneywaltman Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I was thinking that through out the video.

  • @christianrasmuss
    @christianrasmuss Рік тому +17

    Hey Neil, I was a bit worried about the quality of interviews, coverage and so on for these races, but you did an excellent job! Look forward following the race season for DH... Keep up the good work.

  • @Th0nk1ng
    @Th0nk1ng Рік тому +9

    Very quick summary of the updates, as I was unable to find them in this video, but was able to find it on YT, so it does exist.
    - DH elite will now have a semi final run before the finals. There is a cut to finals. these will be broadcast in same day
    - points are now heavily skewed to semis and finals, very low points to qualifiers.
    - to my understanding, the last race of the season, points only in finals
    - Protected riders
    - there are protected spots for both semis and finals, meaning that if the rider is healthy, they will get a run in semi/ finals at all times. These spots are based on previous season rankings. The number of semi final protected riders also include the finals protected. ( for example, if there are 20 protected semi final slots, 5 of them are also final protected, meaning that there are not 20 unique riders, rather 15).
    There will also be an increase in coverage , adding in juniors to the programming as well.

    • @samblenkharn8099
      @samblenkharn8099 Рік тому

      Thanks for that explainer. I found it odd how in both this video, and the one out today on the UCI channel, the respective presenters kept referring to big changes, and in interviews with riders, asked for their opinions on said changes, without actually explaining them for the audiences! Odd.

  • @jeremyphughes
    @jeremyphughes Рік тому +45

    The biggest drama was that the was no info for a very long time. Pretty disrespectful to the riders and teams trying to plan a season and rider contracts

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Рік тому +6

      I mean yes, that is hard to disagree with, but there were a lot of big changes that had to be worked out

    • @l.k.1011
      @l.k.1011 Рік тому +3

      @@neildonoghueMTB That`s exactly the issue: all the changes without seeking the opinion of the athletes. All the changes have already been made and then thrown at them. Everything stands and falls with the riders and they are treated by the UCI and the new broadcasters as if they were some insignificant henchmen.

    • @gabrielmazza7923
      @gabrielmazza7923 Рік тому +3

      Sure, but are you a rider? Or you just heard it in a podcast? There's a process, don't stress it and mind your business

    • @carlstanton2550
      @carlstanton2550 Рік тому

      It's not like any one rider had an advantage or disadvantage, they're all in the same boat.if they don't like the changes they can go race a different series.at the end of the day,they are there to compete,not organise the series. Yes it's a little unfair on the teams with regards to not having adequate time to plan travel etc,but they all got the same information at the same time, and most things would have been partially pre planned anyway,it would have just been last minute finishing touches.

  • @obc3095
    @obc3095 Рік тому +8

    Would have been nice to hear and see a bit of the track taping and pole changes.....

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Рік тому +7

      Didn’t get up on the hill really to be honest to see it, they were trying 4 different ways of doing it and deciding on the best

    • @AM-qt4ng
      @AM-qt4ng Рік тому

      @@neildonoghueMTB I think the short poles work the best 👌

    • @bostondonmtb
      @bostondonmtb Рік тому

      @@neildonoghueMTB I would have asked the riders their thoughts on the course changes, and the sequence of their day now with the changes. Otherwise a nice report from the "Test" event. Thank you.

  • @hobmarg
    @hobmarg Рік тому +6

    We can see course markers are different, why not do a video summarizing changes like course markings, finish corral screens even, proposed point breakdown by semi/finals, protected status etc.

  • @scottbradley7584
    @scottbradley7584 Рік тому +9

    From your show notes: "This isn't a proper race, it's a UCI Downhill test event from the organisers, to iron out some of the scheduling differences from last year and let the riders give their opinions on the new racing format. There have been changes to format and production, as well as experiments with course markings, of which riders are feeding back this weekend". So, where in the 14 minute clip did you explain what these changes are ? If you want me to start paying for something that I used to get for free then you need to tell me why this is such a worthy offering.

    • @butchgreene8718
      @butchgreene8718 Рік тому +2

      Careful...you'll get geo-blocked.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Рік тому +1

      @@GassTron You will be able to watch the racing on GCN+ in South America- it's worldwide

    • @gabrielmazza7923
      @gabrielmazza7923 Рік тому +1

      It was never free dude, it just came with a race-long advertisement from Red Bull. Love the sport? Support it!

  • @kiltymacbagpipe
    @kiltymacbagpipe Рік тому +4

    Previously the races would be available to stream in their entirety after the race. Will that be an option? It makes it much more convenient for a global audience.

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Рік тому

      Yes, live racing then on demand, plus highlights

  • @lufbraroots
    @lufbraroots Рік тому +2

    been searching for some coverage of this all day! Suprising to see that Jordan Williams is still on the Demo and not the new prototype we've seen Loic and Finn on

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 Рік тому +1

      It's not uncommon for riders to use older frames if they post better times on them, some linkages etc don't match some rider's style

    • @lufbraroots
      @lufbraroots Рік тому

      @@kingflynxi9420 i hear what you’re saying and i don’t disagree however i dont beleive this to be the case this time. I wouldnt be suprised that come race 1 in lenzheide that we may well see Jordan on the new prototype

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian Рік тому +1

    yeah there should be a lot more mtb races world wide, like road racing, were there would be main big races like the grand tours with one day classics to, this way it would compensate for riders who have a bad day but then able to make up their points in other races and add to their
    general classification & so on, would make exciting events even more exciting.

  • @itwasanewdayyesterday2586
    @itwasanewdayyesterday2586 Рік тому +8

    I wish I knew what happened. Even paid for GCN but have to scroll through hundreds of road races to even find an MTB race, as a whole the coverage of the UCI DH and enduro have been sub par,

    • @gabrielmazza7923
      @gabrielmazza7923 Рік тому +1

      The DH hasn't started yet, and Emduro has never been broadcasted since its inception. If there's one thing you shouldn't be worried about with Discovery and Eurosport, it's the quality of the coverage

    • @ashleyhowell9045
      @ashleyhowell9045 Рік тому +1

      I have yet to find the advertising of the DH on discovery +

    • @boriscima8134
      @boriscima8134 Рік тому +2

      @@gabrielmazza7923 are you paid by uci and discovery channel

    • @gabrielmazza7923
      @gabrielmazza7923 Рік тому

      @@boriscima8134 no just tired of ignorant mountain bikers, we are not really honouring our name right now

  • @darrylmorgan
    @darrylmorgan Рік тому +3

    Really looking forward to the season opener especially with the new format it should make for some exciting racing.Great show guys!!

  • @sam_does_stuff9189
    @sam_does_stuff9189 Рік тому +3

    Finally!!!!! The season is back

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому +1

      YES! Who are your favorite riders for the 2023 season?

    • @sam_does_stuff9189
      @sam_does_stuff9189 Рік тому +2

      @@gmbnracing 100% looking out for Pheobe Gale can’t wait to see her competing in elite as well as Tahnee Seagrave hopefully making a return and Jackson Goldstone moving up to elite and I love to see Reece Wilson Shredding his way across the leader board

  • @fendogmtb
    @fendogmtb Рік тому +6

    Could you explain more about the taping changes?

    • @bostondonmtb
      @bostondonmtb Рік тому +1

      They should have had a sequence about those changes. Tape versus, the orange posts, and those weirdly placed "pad" or "signs." Not sure that wasn't a focus of this video in addition to talking to the riders.

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Рік тому +2

      That was something they were testing, so no decisions as yet i think. To be honest, i didn't film anything because it seemed like a non issue for most of the riders and i felt there were more interesting, but maybe when it is decided we can take a look

    • @bostondonmtb
      @bostondonmtb Рік тому +1

      @@neildonoghueMTB Thank you for taking the time to reply. Look forward to more of your reports.

  • @Andy_ATB
    @Andy_ATB Рік тому +3

    No XC racing news? There was plenty of racing over the weekend in Spain, Germany, France, etc

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Рік тому +3

      We've taken the decision that the Racing News Show will cover events that we can actually show, i dont think its very interesting if you cant use video assets. So for now that's the big events like the UCI World Cup and whatever else we can get. Hopefully everything at some point

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB Рік тому

      @@neildonoghueMTB Ah, I see. Thanks for the reasoning.

  • @45graham45
    @45graham45 Рік тому +1

    It's a shame it can't be seen on Redbull TV any more.

  • @southerngravity
    @southerngravity Рік тому

    Can't wait to see the riders back between the traffic cones...🎉

  • @schnaufschnief5791
    @schnaufschnief5791 Рік тому +5

    A shame to kick out red bull
    The media coverage was just perfect
    Hope discovery media is able to do a similar job
    EWS was just disappointing to watch

  • @charlesxiong6016
    @charlesxiong6016 Рік тому +2

    I love this channel already, I know it's alot of work but your team is doing a great job, keep it up everyone!

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому

      Thanks Charles! Appreciate the comment!

  • @levinsonl
    @levinsonl Рік тому

    Cool seeing Daprela put down a clean one

  • @ChrisCapoccia
    @ChrisCapoccia Рік тому +1

    What do the different color course markers mean?

  • @henryalfaro9125
    @henryalfaro9125 Рік тому +1

    So!!! There are no longer live Red Bull transmission for the UCI. Is there anyway to see the UCI WC?

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely there is! For the first time ever we'll have Livestreams of the Junior racing & The Elite Semi-Finals right here on UA-cam, for the main event you can catch it live, ad-free and on demand on GCN+ (more info here: gmbn.eu/UCIMTB). We'll also have short highlights of the finals up free to view on youtube shortly after they conclude

    • @jooptablet1727
      @jooptablet1727 Рік тому

      Yes, pay up :-(

    • @henryalfaro9125
      @henryalfaro9125 Рік тому

      @@gmbnracing I just download your app just to find out that if I want to see any race I have to pay which is okay but in the case of the UCI mountain bike World Cup which was free on Red Bull TV . I I just hate the power that you have now. I have been so many years following you watching your videos on UA-cam and to pay for something that before was free for so many years. Very very disappointed. I know at the end of the day, everything is a business, but GMBN can you just take a break?

  • @BurnsRubber
    @BurnsRubber Рік тому +5

    Nicely done Marc and GMBN. Yes, changes. Many of us will be missing Rob Warner’s humor and passion for the sport and so we’re wondering how that will be replaced. New racing format I think will ultimately prove to be a step in the right direction.

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому +4

      It's awesome that we can finally film at these events! The feedback and opinions from this weekend will provide valuable insight and help shape downhill racing this season.

    • @dorothyb.
      @dorothyb. Рік тому +1

      So missing Rob Warner, you are right there 😢

  • @lynxg4641
    @lynxg4641 Рік тому

    Good job Neil, wish you'd managed to grab a few more riders for a broader perspective, but good job overall. Looking at the new course/track markings, I think it's a big improvement over previous years, so there's a positive, unfortunately then there's the big negative from your last comment that the live race coverage will be absolutely paywalled, so I won't be watching any racing this year and will probably look to other sites/media for coverage.

  • @TeddyParker
    @TeddyParker Рік тому +6

    The only important thing not quite being discussed. More race runs per rider... Paid streaming service... How much are they gonna pay athletes for MORE work that they charge fans for? It's gotta be one or the other. How are riders gonna be able to develop in this environment? Just use nationals and Crankworx?

    • @lawrencebowden1794
      @lawrencebowden1794 Рік тому

      It’s down to the riders to negotiate their terms and conditions with the team and sponsors

    • @TeddyParker
      @TeddyParker Рік тому

      @@lawrencebowden1794 Weird way to say you're against PA's and unions and minimum salaries like almost every other sport, but ok.

  • @cooltuque
    @cooltuque Рік тому +1

    That format of the race show is awesome!

  • @yungQi
    @yungQi Рік тому

    Lovely drift by Thibaut Dapréla

  • @NikolaiVozza
    @NikolaiVozza Рік тому

    2:42 is that a 26 rear wheel?

  • @jayowen4891
    @jayowen4891 Рік тому

    to sit and watch the races live on a sunday afternoon can anyone tell me what subscription i need iive been told eurosport + or discovery +but which one will show the race live as i dont belive eurosport will substitute Wsbk for a dh race thats on at the same time

  • @R0M4iN274
    @R0M4iN274 Рік тому

    Nothing special to say except that i’m the guy right behind at 10:44

  • @ashleyhowell9045
    @ashleyhowell9045 Рік тому

    Discovery channel is it advertising the DH yet

  • @ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος

    Everybody will be riding with at least one 29 inch wheel 😁🤙

  • @florianfuchs8736
    @florianfuchs8736 Рік тому

    4k videos please!

  • @alexblaj
    @alexblaj Рік тому +2

    More videos like these!

  • @Mcfc2Rich
    @Mcfc2Rich Рік тому +1

    I'm excited for the MTB season as a whole. DH, Urban, Slopestyle. Can't wait.

  • @ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος

    I'm looking forward to XCC/XCO to start again

  • @adammoonface
    @adammoonface Рік тому

    This is a great new format. Donny is clearly in his element!

  • @enduromtb9587
    @enduromtb9587 Рік тому +3

    The lack of communication to the riders in the whole lead up to this event has been appalling. Just another business taking advantage of amazing talented riders risking their shit to make some corporate tossers more money. Can’t wait for for the first race but 🤘

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому

      We're expecting all of this to be confirmed for the Downhill in the coming weeks. Part of this event was for the riders to discuss the changes and inform which of the offered solutions was the best, we believe that's concluding soon and will bring you that info ahead of the season start 👍

    • @enduromtb9587
      @enduromtb9587 Рік тому +1

      @@gmbnracing it is fantastic that they ran this event i just found it frustrating as a fan hearing all the top riders speculating on what was happening this year due to the lack of communication. The riders need to be put first. They are the ones risking it all and they should be treated with respect. I’m sure once the season kicks off it’s gonna be epic as always.

  • @Dolencd
    @Dolencd Рік тому

    When a sports director of a competition just smiles and says the truth when asked how the riders are feeling about the change of the format, you might have something good going on. It would be much easier to lie and no one would hold it against him.

  • @islarun4103
    @islarun4103 Рік тому

    We look full attack to see something thanks for all

  • @trailswithtrevor1509
    @trailswithtrevor1509 Рік тому

    Peaty’s carrying a keg.

  • @ashleytombs
    @ashleytombs Рік тому +1

    So nice to hear and see Tahnee Seagrave back riding her bike GB need another Rachel Atherton these French girls need to be taken down a peg or two lol good luck for the season tahnee

  • @SoulBlazeNightmare
    @SoulBlazeNightmare Рік тому

    Where is the Trek team?

    • @danieljames4584
      @danieljames4584 Рік тому

      Not all teams were invited, they got told they could come or not, this was more of a meeting to sus out the setup for discovery tv ad breaks ect.

  • @fangxx456
    @fangxx456 Рік тому

    Not gonna mention the Sea Otter Classic which had the 1st round of the LifeTime Grand Prix? The LTGP is the biggest race series here in the States.

    • @apersonontheinternet8034
      @apersonontheinternet8034 Рік тому

      Coming from a country that has a national league called "The World Series" that doesn't mean a great deal. 😆

  • @islarun4103
    @islarun4103 Рік тому

    Give steel a beer please

  • @markmuldoon7044
    @markmuldoon7044 Рік тому +4

    Grand and all but doesn't change the fact that the UCI sold mountain biking to discovery as a cash grab as soon as it got big after neglecting the sport for so many years... Unfortunately GCN/GMBN is part of the problem...

    • @hammyh1165
      @hammyh1165 Рік тому +2

      GCN/GMBN is owned by Discovery so this isn't exactly a non biased programme.

  • @iwanttoliveinthewoods
    @iwanttoliveinthewoods Рік тому

    I don't get the addition of the semi final

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому

      Peaty's comments sum it up pretty well! There used to be qualifying points and race points, by increasing the points on offer in a semi-final format, the racing should ultimately be closer throughout the year with more chances for riders to tactically make gains!

  • @fillfreakin2245
    @fillfreakin2245 Рік тому

    "dry run"😂😂😂

  • @oldskoolcloud3224
    @oldskoolcloud3224 Рік тому +2

    i live in canada and i cant even watch it through discovery plus here so im forced to pay to view this years world cup sad face

  • @delaneywaltman
    @delaneywaltman Рік тому +12

    This has been a horrible transition that appears to be detrimental to mountain biking. It's actually very disappointing.

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Рік тому +2

      There hasn't been a race yet. There will be plenty for the new organisation to prove that's for sure, but do you actually think an energy drink company (with its own riders) had the greater interest of all the racers and Mountain Biker fans at heart?

    • @Boabybawbag
      @Boabybawbag Рік тому +5

      @@neildonoghueMTB Aye, they streamed all of the races live. Back markers, and all. I have no idea how i'm going to be able to watch the races. There has been hee fcuking haw consideration for the fans. That's why the comments have been lighting up for months.

    • @delaneywaltman
      @delaneywaltman Рік тому +1

      @@neildonoghueMTB first, I would like to ask a simple question, as to how am I going to watch the DH races?
      Everyone knows red bull sales the rights to manufacturing the actually drink to local distributors. They promote all extreme sports. I've never for one second thought they showed favoritism towards Red Bull athletes. Unlike this video, that seemed to be an paid advertisement.

    • @Sheezy543
      @Sheezy543 Рік тому +2

      @@neildonoghueMTB that is a spicy take from my perspective. While redbull may have not been perfect it was the the standard for a number of years. The eso hasn’t proved whatever their next level approach is and is asking dedicated fans to pay for what was free and pretty well done.
      Moreover making sure race runs happen within a dedicated time slot has run contrary to the sports ethos for decades. That doesn’t seem next level. That seems to be changing the sport to fit advertising expectations over the fan and racer experience.
      Until proven otherwise is no next level here. The eso has done a poor job communicating the real changes happening to the sport and it isn’t about being resistant to changes, it’s about understating what the true motivations are from the eso and discovery which I believe is the parent company to GMBN. So as you allude that redbull had a conflict of interest one could argue gmbn does as well and will follow the company line into this new next level version of the sport, which nobody knows what that is.
      There was no reporting here. The only discussion was about points and a semi. What actually are the changes happening to the formats and runs? Too bad you didn’t figure to ask those questions.

  • @tensuitengu7695
    @tensuitengu7695 Рік тому +2

    UCI is the shit

  • @philt77
    @philt77 Рік тому +7

    Pay to watch. No can do

    • @BurnsRubber
      @BurnsRubber Рік тому

      Why not?

    • @TheRacedaz72
      @TheRacedaz72 Рік тому +5

      ​@KnowMtB because the race calander is crap, they care more about carbon footprint than about the racing as they aren't even a sports company, they've replaced rob commentary for a woman football commentator, the semi final / final thing is stupid and world champs is now halfway through the short season

    • @philt77
      @philt77 Рік тому +2

      @@BurnsRubbermost certain a much worse broadcast and i got 3 kids wanting to do stuff rather watching me watching a payed broadcast without Rob Warner.
      For me this is the end of watching downhill. The same way i got bored with NHL hockey when it got so Disney.
      Red bull did it very hard for the one after- who even want us to pay for it. LOL. It is pretty embarrassing to charhed us even before the first broadcast i think. They know 99% wants Rob and the concept that worked. Even so they want us billed. Well good luck. Hope it wont destroy the sport so deep

    • @gabrielmazza7923
      @gabrielmazza7923 Рік тому

      Love the sport? Support it. EASYYY being a fan when you get stuff for free. SHOW. YOUR. DEDICATION. or just shut up

  • @mkoneuk2012
    @mkoneuk2012 Рік тому +1

    What are the changes...... where to watch....... should of stayed with Redbull too.....see coverage being a disaster for sure!

    • @gmbnracing
      @gmbnracing  Рік тому +1

      More info in our latest video 👍

  • @dee3368
    @dee3368 Рік тому

    I love people saying a lot of things but say nothing at the same time

  • @TheDartsPirate
    @TheDartsPirate Рік тому

    UCI is out of touch and they are falling out of favor if seems with quite a few riders. Unfortunately there's really no other option for the best riders in the world when it comes to racing. The changes they've made are clearly not popular so maybe instead of making decisions themselves they need to be open to communicating with the men and. Woman who will actually be riding these events. On top of that UCI banning riders like @lewisbuchanan for his Only Fans sponsorship is just ridiculous. UCI themselves say that riders are difficult when it comes to accepting change and this Only Fans/ @lewisbuchanan issue just shows how against change they are themselves, a bit hypocritical wouldn't you say. I see no issue with Only Fans especially since they've made it clear that they want to get involved in the sport which means more $$$ going into the sport for racers with sponsorship opportunities but the events themselves could get more support from a new brand which brings new viewers. OPEN YOUR EYES!