This way of recording is extremely helpful, especially for producers who use id44 and don’t have a mic pre amp. If one gets a weak gain with an audio interface, then adding compression or even extra gain on a bus and recording through that as an input is by far the best work around!
Finally someone intelligent and to the point . Thank you man very insightful and precise . I was needing some clarity on the vocal set up process . I’ve been getting good recordings but each time I set up a session for my tracks I struggle on the proper setup. Thanks again man
Really appreciate your help It took a lot of digging and social media groups to find your page. I am finally starting to feel like I’m not just clicking buttons. Thanks
perfect! been doing this on PT for a few years but somebody just asked me to record them on their logic rig two days ago and I know nothing about this DAW. this was my first priority to learn. first session is in two days lol. THANK YOU
What a great lesson in signal routing! I didn't know you could do this so it is invaluable. I'm not so experienced in exactly where to put my settings on EQ and compression so I'd still do this the old-fashioned way, recording the tracks dry, and then adding the EQ and compression, and then bouncing the track to audio. The reason for doing it this way is that I can then tweak the EQ and compression settings before committing, and I know that's not the point of this video. The most important point you make is that several stages of soft compression at different points of the project is better than a massive amount of compression at any one point. That's really important.
MusicTechHelpGuy, you are the best. This video in particular has created a sea change in my recordings. In fact, I may have gotten a little too far into outboard gear because I did not know you could do this in Logic. While there's nothing like a Neve preamp, after learning this technique from you, I'm starting to look at fancy-pants plugins.
Great tutorial. I've been recording signals dry for awhile (because that is just what I learned at the time) and there was always something lacking in the initial recordings. And the mixing phase was a struggle (could be user error). Started to implement this technique recently and it has radically changed the way I record now. Instruments and vocals sound much better right away because I can premix everything better as I record. And the mixing phase has become much easier. I probably will not record anything direct in without this technique unless absolutely needed. Thank you much.
Thanks man, just tried recording a session this way. Hope it turns out well since decision were made on the way in ;) ...I like making decisions though. Too many options these days.
Thanks so much for this amazing, amazing series of Logic Pro X tutorials. The package is enormous and your information is so helpful! It has saved us hours of hard slog. Cheers Mate from Glenn & Dave.
Dude....your video is a life saver. Up to this point, everything I did in Logic has been instrumentals. Recently, I've been approached to do a few songs for a web series and the producer wants instrumentals AND songs with vocals. Silly me, I just thought plug mic in interface, and record. Well, that didn't go as planned. Then I thought..."hey...MusicTechHelpGuy."I followed step by step, and my vocals are pretty good.
Great video, I just tried using this along with one of Musician on a Mission's techniques and I process my track with a Slate pre-amp and console on input. HUGE difference in quality and colour.
I've had Logic for about 10 months now, wanted to get back into writing and recording after a 12 year hiatus - things have changed a lot since I worked with Cubase and multiple MIDI in/outs, modules, samplers etc back in the day. Once I realised the potential of going fully digital I've not looked back. Your channel was the first Logic Tutorial I found and I've been through most of the early videos, but each time I do, I find something new to improve my workflow - this video is great, only just found it today, just as I was laying down some (really rough!!) vocals and struggling with latency issues - keep up the good work! I'm a patreon supporter of your channel as well.
I did this a few times, the latency even at 32 is even too much to try to stack.. I tried to go with low latency mode and that can't be done.. you're the only one on here that shows how to do this, is there another way or that's it? I would have to invest in a outboard compressor.. I really like it this way too. I wish the latency wasn't as bad though. You're the man though..
As usual, even old, these videos are an incredible source of knowledge. Thank you. I cans see you have really good track icons. Do you know it's possible to find it ?
Your voice is not bad you did really good i enjoyed this video i will like and subscribe you solved my Aux and busing problems now i know why my mixes is sounding different they was so screwed👍
If you have a fast computer, what with 32-bit recording tech available, there is no need to process on the way in. Having the rawest audio possible is ideal. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it; it depends on your preference.
Great video, as always. There's one thing I can't get to work. I am sending my guitar amp signal via a load box to my audio interface. My aim is to record guitar silently via cab IRs. This video helped me track the guitar and print the cab IR. But I can't listen to the IR while tracking (or just playing). What do I need to do to be able to listen to the plugin while tracking?
Great Vid man, tried that shit today and added a Slate Digital Compression on that shit and Boom!!!.. Didn't hurt that I was going through a U87 lol...Thank you!
With respect. I will always give the talent a nice headphone mix for inspiration, but i would never incorporate that into the actual recording. Hardware or plugs. You gotta have a dry version also. Just in case. You can always put more salt in but you can't take it out. I understand it fixes the dynamic levels a bit but i think its not worth it. Unless your a million percent confident its exactly right. If latency is a problem... you gotta get a better rig/interface. As far as "Pros always do this". That's more like a thing from the past (tape). Because we pretty much had to.
Was thinking the same thing this was well said and still a great video. I have used this Technique before but usually it’s logic not having the Processing to do it with low latency monitoring / 64 sample rate almost always still will get a click or a pop and think that perspective should still be mentioned having the Apollo twin with DSP makes this obsolete and that’s the new way of doing things logic doesn’t have the processing power to do this in the first place really. But like you said can always add more salt which is the other thing about this... I wouldn’t trust myself personally haha I’ll just set the head phone mix and have my signature sound and tweak everything as I go by end of the session.
I know the feeling. You can realy ruin a good guitar performance specially recording with a delay effect not synced to time. But For accoustic guitars nylon and steel strings, it helps to pass the audio through a compressor and a EQ to soften the atack and to reduce the booming effect. The compressor Fairchild 670 is ideal for this
awesome tutorial! wonder if it would work from an audio track with insert effects on it printing to another audio track. gonna try it out cuz it might come in handy too.
hello dear MusicTechHelpGuy. Thanks a lot for all your videos, so helpful. I'm a novice on Logic pro x, I have got a problem. when i'm trying to record a Guitar, i'm having all the project sounds on track, even the metronome, which overloands the track. Is there a solution to only have the guitar and nothing else when you're recording with all the projet playing? Thank you for your answers?
Really appreciate your help with Logic X. Thanks much. Here's an off-topic question: Have you noticed that when you bounce a track, sometimes the processing on the bounce doesn't quite match up to the processing on the original track? Is there anything that can be done about that?
Thank you so much for the information, I would like to play on a keyboard plug-in in logic and have it processed on a outboard Device and recorded backed on another track how do I go about that. and Also with some of logic loops .Ps. My Interface is Apollo 8.
I have a question. using Logic Pro X but this might be also partly Focusrite solution. I am trying to record DI (amped) guitar from a load box - you can imagine how it sounds without cab simulation. I have 2 option on the load box Dry (amped - not cabed) and Wet. Ideally i would like to record DRY (and use cab IR later on) but would like to listen to WET tone while I am recording. I used Saphire 2i2. do you think there is an option to record but not hear that Dry track?
do logic have a input whatever plugins you use recording through input the process is imbedded in the file?? when you play back the plugins not being used. reason i ask normally you dont have to create or add a input track its already built in the mixer. if we dont have the input im talking about when using autotune you basically have to put the plugin on every track literally if the artist/group love to use it
Thanks again for these videos. Question on recording while listening to applied effects. Recording solo acoustic guitar while listening to reverb as the only plugin. I can still turn that effect off once I've recorded but does it diminish the recording in any way to add the reverb as Im recording?
Hey I love your videos it always helped me! I have a question, When I am recording my vocals the tracks are recording too in the audio doo you know how can I fix it?
Hey Josh, it would be great to see how to record with external hardware (basically eq n comp) focusing on the routing of i/o's using them like insert plugins! Thank you!
Thanks for your videos. Question: shouldn't the Soft Plate verb you loaded on your last Aux track be set to 100% wet? Otherwise you're adding back even more dry/original signal to the next stage? Or am I misunderstanding something about Logic or SD or all of it :-)?
+fiveshorts Some reverb plug-ins, like the Lexicon plug-ins I like, have a single Wet/Dry slider. Space Designer has two "reverb" and "dry" sliders. So as long as the dry slider is all the way down, you're okay. If I pull up the reverb slider, I'm just going to hear more reverb. I could pull that up and pull the track level down, or simply pull the reverb slider down. It works either way.
question: even when the comperssor will work in the aux track, i'm still going to insert a clipping signal to my system right? the comressor comes only after in the chain. isn't it wrong?
is there a way to get rid of the click track while recording…as in, still be able to hear it but not allow it to clip? I noticed mine always makes me clip as well. Would I literally just have to turn the volume down for the click? Did I just answer my own question lol?
Hi, thank´s again for the great video. I would have two questions, as I am a bit new to all that recording :) First, why would you record the guitar two times, would it not be easier to just copy and paste? Or is it to have it sound like two guitars are playing (so a little different). Second, I always having problems to find the right bpm (in your video 170), if I then want to put a drummer inside it always sounds a bit strange and I think it has to do with the bpm. Is there a way that Logic can recognize the speed I am playing the guitar? It is not working when I put the drummer to follow. Thank you for your answers.
+StephansBilderwelt You feel a nice stereo field with two different guitars recorded, with copy and paste the sound is placed just in the middle of panorama and thats it :)
+StephansBilderwelt What euredyka00 said is exactly correct. If you just copy/paste the guitar, you'll just a louder sounding guitar, no stereo effect. The differences in the two recordings and panning give it a stereo effect.
Okay, always something to learn. I always had the feeling when I copy and past and then changed one to left and one two right, I would have the same stereo effect. So I will give it a try and see what difference it makes. Thanks a lot for your answers.
Do you have a video on monitoring your self recording vocals and using reverb but not recording it in and with low and not getting that chorus effect and latency? Do you use an external device with dsp to monitor your self?
Same here man.. I just asked that question too.. I tried low latency mode but it doesn't even go through the Aux track.. UGH!!!! I want to record with input compression..
Do you have any videos that touch more on midi sync, external synchronization, smpte, tempo sync with sequencers and/or drum machines? Having troubles with this stuff. Thanks
When i try to send the output of the Aux Track, it won't let me, the output option stays Stereo Out and does not allow me to change it. I'm using version 10.2.4
How do I setup my microphone input from a audio interface to a analog compressor then back to my daw so the recording has a compressor on it while it's getting recorded?
This way of recording is extremely helpful, especially for producers who use id44 and don’t have a mic pre amp. If one gets a weak gain with an audio interface, then adding compression or even extra gain on a bus and recording through that as an input is by far the best work around!
hey dude just wanted to say thanks for making these videos! this is my go to place for learning about logic pro x. great content!!
This has changed the game for me 😭😭I truly appreciate it bro
Finally someone intelligent and to the point . Thank you man very insightful and precise . I was needing some clarity on the vocal set up process . I’ve been getting good recordings but each time I set up a session for my tracks I struggle on the proper setup. Thanks again man
Really appreciate your help It took a lot of digging and social media groups to find your page. I am finally starting to feel like I’m not just clicking buttons. Thanks
perfect! been doing this on PT for a few years but somebody just asked me to record them on their logic rig two days ago and I know nothing about this DAW. this was my first priority to learn. first session is in two days lol. THANK YOU
What a great lesson in signal routing! I didn't know you could do this so it is invaluable.
I'm not so experienced in exactly where to put my settings on EQ and compression so I'd still do this the old-fashioned way, recording the tracks dry, and then adding the EQ and compression, and then bouncing the track to audio. The reason for doing it this way is that I can then tweak the EQ and compression settings before committing, and I know that's not the point of this video.
The most important point you make is that several stages of soft compression at different points of the project is better than a massive amount of compression at any one point. That's really important.
One of the most inspiring guy's I found on UA-cam. You sir, are a legend!
Noticed in this video that I can turn off the snap-mode of Logic to select, move or cut regions. You always deliver, Josh.
Very appreciative of your channel! Thorough, well-informed content that makes working in Logic so much easier. I wish I found your channel years ago!
MusicTechHelpGuy, you are the best. This video in particular has created a sea change in my recordings. In fact, I may have gotten a little too far into outboard gear because I did not know you could do this in Logic. While there's nothing like a Neve preamp, after learning this technique from you, I'm starting to look at fancy-pants plugins.
Great tutorial. I've been recording signals dry for awhile (because that is just what I learned at the time) and there was always something lacking in the initial recordings. And the mixing phase was a struggle (could be user error). Started to implement this technique recently and it has radically changed the way I record now. Instruments and vocals sound much better right away because I can premix everything better as I record. And the mixing phase has become much easier. I probably will not record anything direct in without this technique unless absolutely needed. Thank you much.
Thanks man, just tried recording a session this way. Hope it turns out well since decision were made on the way in ;) ...I like making decisions though. Too many options these days.
Wow! This video was made 4 years ago, and it helped me today! 08/18/2020
BEST VIDEO i've found to help with recording some good clean vocals! thank you!
Ah! The voice comes complete with face. Thank you so much for doing these videos.
Invaluable help as always! Learned so much in less than 16 minutes. Thanks as usual. Cool song and great voice too!
Great tips and topic (how to add effects, during, not after, recording)that i've not seen anyone in UA-cam talk about. Subscribed right away.
You’re honestly the reason I’m as good as I am now
Thanks again MTHG for another great video. Saved me a lot of time trying to figure this out
Thanks for helping demystify the aux/bus elements of Logic.
Thanks so much for this amazing, amazing series of Logic Pro X tutorials. The package is enormous and your information is so helpful! It has saved us hours of hard slog. Cheers Mate from Glenn & Dave.
Dude....your video is a life saver. Up to this point, everything I did in Logic has been instrumentals. Recently, I've been approached to do a few songs for a web series and the producer wants instrumentals AND songs with vocals. Silly me, I just thought plug mic in interface, and record. Well, that didn't go as planned. Then I thought..."hey...MusicTechHelpGuy."I followed step by step, and my vocals are pretty good.
Great video, I just tried using this along with one of Musician on a Mission's techniques and I process my track with a Slate pre-amp and console on input. HUGE difference in quality and colour.
Finally, an informative easy to follow video. Thanks.
best youtube channel ever....helped me so much. thanks man
I've had Logic for about 10 months now, wanted to get back into writing and recording after a 12 year hiatus - things have changed a lot since I worked with Cubase and multiple MIDI in/outs, modules, samplers etc back in the day. Once I realised the potential of going fully digital I've not looked back. Your channel was the first Logic Tutorial I found and I've been through most of the early videos, but each time I do, I find something new to improve my workflow - this video is great, only just found it today, just as I was laying down some (really rough!!) vocals and struggling with latency issues - keep up the good work! I'm a patreon supporter of your channel as well.
Thank you. I was planning to buy a hardware , but I think even with latency that way of recording will work for me right now.
Thank for taking the time. Good stuff that I’ve learned from your channel
Hi, I'm new to Logic and this one tutorial has been a tremendous help - thank you.
I did this a few times, the latency even at 32 is even too much to try to stack.. I tried to go with low latency mode and that can't be done.. you're the only one on here that shows how to do this, is there another way or that's it? I would have to invest in a outboard compressor.. I really like it this way too. I wish the latency wasn't as bad though. You're the man though..
great channel and awesome shirt!
You are really smart man...Awesome channel!
this was exactly what I was looking for.. Thank you so much man.. Fantastic..
As usual, even old, these videos are an incredible source of knowledge. Thank you.
I cans see you have really good track icons. Do you know it's possible to find it ?
Super informative. Lots of valuable info.
This helped me a lot . thanks!!!
Your voice is not bad you did really good i enjoyed this video i will like and subscribe you solved my Aux and busing problems now i know why my mixes is sounding different they was so screwed👍
almost shelled out the cash for a hardware compressor for my vocal tracks before i found this video, thanks for saving me a couple hundred bux homie
YOUR THE BEST MAN SAVED MY DAY
If you have a fast computer, what with 32-bit recording tech available, there is no need to process on the way in. Having the rawest audio possible is ideal. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it; it depends on your preference.
How does using 32-bit recording negate the use of a compressor or EQ to clean up the track?
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Your videos are so helpful! Thank you!
Your videos are very helpful. Thank you.
This is Still urgently relevant in 2017
Simple. Well done. Thanks!
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This helped a ton thank you
Great vid man, can't wait to try this at home, but if I already have a pre-amp set up guess I would have to bypass to use the logic compression.
I was trying to figure this out for eons now I can properly use these mic preamp plugins
Great explanation, thanks
great video, surprising example Bruce Dickinson style
Ill Be doing this forever .Thanks
Great video, as always. There's one thing I can't get to work. I am sending my guitar amp signal via a load box to my audio interface. My aim is to record guitar silently via cab IRs. This video helped me track the guitar and print the cab IR. But I can't listen to the IR while tracking (or just playing). What do I need to do to be able to listen to the plugin while tracking?
Thank you.
Great video thank you!
Great Vid man, tried that shit today and added a Slate Digital Compression on that shit and Boom!!!.. Didn't hurt that I was going through a U87 lol...Thank you!
With respect.
I will always give the talent a nice headphone mix for inspiration, but i would never incorporate that into the actual recording. Hardware or plugs.
You gotta have a dry version also. Just in case.
You can always put more salt in but you can't take it out.
I understand it fixes the dynamic levels a bit but i think its not worth it. Unless your a million percent confident its exactly right.
If latency is a problem... you gotta get a better rig/interface.
As far as "Pros always do this". That's more like a thing from the past (tape). Because we pretty much had to.
Was thinking the same thing this was well said and still a great video. I have used this Technique before but usually it’s logic not having the Processing to do it with low latency monitoring / 64 sample rate almost always still will get a click or a pop and think that perspective should still be mentioned having the Apollo twin with DSP makes this obsolete and that’s the new way of doing things logic doesn’t have the processing power to do this in the first place really. But like you said can always add more salt which is the other thing about this... I wouldn’t trust myself personally haha I’ll just set the head phone mix and have my signature sound and tweak everything as I go by end of the session.
I know the feeling. You can realy ruin a good guitar performance specially recording
with a delay effect not synced to time. But For accoustic guitars nylon and steel strings, it
helps to pass the audio through a compressor and a EQ to soften the atack and to reduce the booming effect.
The compressor Fairchild 670 is ideal for this
Great videos!
you are a pro!!, thanks for sharing
Thank you for this
super thanks very much and happy christmas in Music :):):):
awesome tutorial! wonder if it would work from an audio track with insert effects on it printing to another audio track. gonna try it out cuz it might come in handy too.
did it work?
Amazing...👍👍👍 Thanks for sharing 🎸☠️👍
Hey, thanks again great video.....question...how do you pull up the magnifying glass in logic ? Thanks!
hello dear MusicTechHelpGuy. Thanks a lot for all your videos, so helpful.
I'm a novice on Logic pro x, I have got a problem. when i'm trying to record a Guitar,
i'm having all the project sounds on track, even the metronome, which overloands the track.
Is there a solution to only have the guitar and nothing else when you're recording with all the projet playing?
Thank you for your answers?
wow so helpful!
Really appreciate your help with Logic X. Thanks much.
Here's an off-topic question: Have you noticed that when you bounce a track, sometimes the processing on the bounce doesn't quite match up to the processing on the original track? Is there anything that can be done about that?
Thank you so much for the information, I would like to play on a keyboard plug-in in logic and have it processed on a outboard Device and recorded backed on another track how do I go about that.
and Also with some of logic loops .Ps. My Interface is Apollo 8.
I have a question. using Logic Pro X but this might be also partly Focusrite solution.
I am trying to record DI (amped) guitar from a load box - you can imagine how it sounds without cab simulation. I have 2 option on the load box Dry (amped - not cabed) and Wet. Ideally i would like to record DRY (and use cab IR later on) but would like to listen to WET tone while I am recording.
I used Saphire 2i2.
do you think there is an option to record but not hear that Dry track?
Nevertheless you have to watch out for clipping on your audio interface !
do logic have a input whatever plugins you use recording through input the process is imbedded in the file?? when you play back the plugins not being used. reason i ask normally you dont have to create or add a input track its already built in the mixer. if we dont have the input im talking about when using autotune you basically have to put the plugin on every track literally if the artist/group love to use it
Hey thanks for sharing this video! Just wanted to ask, for vocals, how much gain reduction are you looking for on the compressor? Thanks again!
great helpful video
Have you done this using UAD-powered plugins? so the processing is coming off the Uad satellite?
I can't hear the track I'm trying to play to out my headphones any idea why its not working I use logic and focus rite
Yes thanks for a great video. Is that a 1997 Fly V behind you? If it is then it's just like my little baby too!
Thanks again for these videos. Question on recording while listening to applied effects. Recording solo acoustic guitar while listening to reverb as the only plugin. I can still turn that effect off once I've recorded but does it diminish the recording in any way to add the reverb as Im recording?
very interesting, thanks
Hey I love your videos it always helped me! I have a question, When I am recording my vocals the tracks are recording too in the audio doo you know how can I fix it?
Greetings from New Zealand! Thanks man, your videos are always informative and clearly laid out. Keep 'em coming!
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I liked. Very Good.
Hey Josh, it would be great to see how to record with external hardware (basically eq n comp) focusing on the routing of i/o's using them like insert plugins! Thank you!
+Axel Bezzi I definitely plan on doing a video for that. Perhaps this week?
wow, that would be so cool! thank you in advance!
+Axel Bezzi Probably will do a Distressor or Manley Vari-Mu as an example. Gotta remember to bring the gear home from the studio though!
+MusicTechHelpGuy it would be great also to show any latency issue and how to solve it!
Thanks for your videos.
Question: shouldn't the Soft Plate verb you loaded on your last Aux track be set to 100% wet? Otherwise you're adding back even more dry/original signal to the next stage? Or am I misunderstanding something about Logic or SD or all of it :-)?
+fiveshorts Some reverb plug-ins, like the Lexicon plug-ins I like, have a single Wet/Dry slider. Space Designer has two "reverb" and "dry" sliders. So as long as the dry slider is all the way down, you're okay. If I pull up the reverb slider, I'm just going to hear more reverb. I could pull that up and pull the track level down, or simply pull the reverb slider down. It works either way.
question:
even when the comperssor will work in the aux track, i'm still going to insert a clipping signal to my system right? the comressor comes only after in the chain. isn't it wrong?
is there a way to get rid of the click track while recording…as in, still be able to hear it but not allow it to clip? I noticed mine always makes me clip as well. Would I literally just have to turn the volume down for the click? Did I just answer my own question lol?
Hi, thank´s again for the great video. I would have two questions, as I am a bit new to all that recording :) First, why would you record the guitar two times, would it not be easier to just copy and paste? Or is it to have it sound like two guitars are playing (so a little different). Second, I always having problems to find the right bpm (in your video 170), if I then want to put a drummer inside it always sounds a bit strange and I think it has to do with the bpm. Is there a way that Logic can recognize the speed I am playing the guitar? It is not working when I put the drummer to follow. Thank you for your answers.
+StephansBilderwelt You feel a nice stereo field with two different guitars recorded, with copy and paste the sound is placed just in the middle of panorama and thats it :)
+StephansBilderwelt What euredyka00 said is exactly correct. If you just copy/paste the guitar, you'll just a louder sounding guitar, no stereo effect. The differences in the two recordings and panning give it a stereo effect.
Okay, always something to learn. I always had the feeling when I copy and past and then changed one to left and one two right, I would have the same stereo effect. So I will give it a try and see what difference it makes. Thanks a lot for your answers.
great tuto... unik
Do you have a video on monitoring your self recording vocals and using reverb but not recording it in and with low and not getting that chorus effect and latency?
Do you use an external device with dsp to monitor your self?
Is this the same as a headphone mix? Also is there a setup where you can print a signal with processing and also a dry signal simultaneously?
Thanks
I drop my vocals on logic sounds fine but once I play it back its sounds off can anyone help ??
Same here man.. I just asked that question too.. I tried low latency mode but it doesn't even go through the Aux track.. UGH!!!! I want to record with input compression..
Do you have any videos that touch more on midi sync, external synchronization, smpte, tempo sync with sequencers and/or drum machines? Having troubles with this stuff. Thanks
Ok so let say I want to use this technique to do it with rap you consider that same two plugins
When i try to send the output of the Aux Track, it won't let me, the output option stays Stereo Out and does not allow me to change it. I'm using version 10.2.4
How do I setup my microphone input from a audio interface to a analog compressor then back to my daw so the recording has a compressor on it while it's getting recorded?
Hi there .... how can you record in stereo in logic using the audio interface ?? Thanks