This video is made based on the events up to episode 17, please don't use your knowledge of episode 18 to counter the predictions or criticisms in this video. Come back here if you don't agree with me after my ep18 reaction releases on sunday.
Still Connor finale is just DUMH yeah let him hop around in finale yeah...also Connor,Jake Riya don't need the money so ally not getting finale is criminal
After gretts elimination, i feel like everyone, including me, has been ranting about how this is the worst final 4 bc grett felt like the perfect winner to everybody
I wish the finale was about how Trevor and Emily's plan works out and they'd cancel the show (so nobody wins), Trevor takes the money, Kristal gets fired and Emily takes her place as the host for season 4. Perfect ending
actually yea, I'm kinda an idiot so I didn't pay attention that much but that idea is actually fire my only nitpick is that I would actually want to see a winner officialized after all that mess but other than that it's an idea I can get behind anytime
Whats funny is that everyone in the finale already has money. Jake is with miriam and thats free money, riya is an actress, connor owns a whole company, and ally is a streamer who probably makes money
@@SillyBillyDucky I love Trevor! TREVOR AND DEREK BETTER (ALSO TOM AND JAKE) KISS OR I WILL HUNT THE PRODUCERS DOWN! You are an amazing VA Billy! Your so good and I will love to see what else you do!
What sucks is that Grett should of been in the next episode based on the challenge itself since they’re recreating the outfits of the respective person. From what I seen and was able to piece together is for jake, it’s Tom. For Connor, it’s Alec. For Ally, it’s Ashley. And for Riya, it’s Connor, which isn’t as impactful since Connor is still in the game. If Grett was in this challenge, I would have liked to see her create Gabby.
Now we're left with final 4 where no outcome is going to be satisfying for me and a lot of other fans: - Jake: incedibly flawed and whiny in the first half of the season with a bit of regress here and there even after his character development. Even worse, the biggest screenhog of the season and with the upcoming miniseries about him and Tom, I just want the creators to get him out of my screen already. Not to mention, he doesn't need the money that much since Miriam shared her prize with him. - Connor: a fairly sympathetic character with a story fitting for a winner, but unfortunately he often flip flopped between wanting to give Riya a chance and being done with her, to the point it's annoying. And he returned, a returning winner will always feel unfair to those who competed the whole time. And he's already rich. Plus, if he wins after his VA started writing episodes, this is going to feel like a major bias. - Ally: a reverse story of Jake. If he gets more sympathetic (but the first impression is still too hard to shake off for me), she gets more unsympathetic as time goes on. I love me a villain character, but she's been making so many dumb and petty moves because of Jake, especially in the TikTok challenge. It's hard to root for her now and this is coming from someone who liked her since Season 2! And she's fairly well-off as a streamer. Unfortunately, she also spent too many episodes as an out-of-focus NPC in the background. - Riya: a combination of all of the above - already rich, a screenhog, inconsistent, incredibly unsympathetic.
i think a common issue with the current final 4 is that 3 of them started their stories too late with not enough build up. meanwhile Jake started his story early and kept it going for 12 episodes, 15 if you include the becoming friends with aiden plot. jake i at least think he's grown as a person and become actually enjoyable though which is an upside to having a longer development. Connor has been mostly fine recently but his story of trying to prove he can actually do something worthwhile'd only started in ep 14, at the end of the episode, and hasn't even been about that since it was more Alec focused. Riya, her story was about keeping up appearances in the media, something which i think a lot of people could relate to even without being literally on camera all the time. and Ep 17 was a good representation of this, that scene with riya in ep 17 was really good, but thats the problem, it's just that episode. there has been a lack of that nicer side and hiding it from the camera's since EP 3 and its the same issue with ally except add a layer of inconsistency, ep 14 she acted out of pure spite, ep 15 she seemed to act out of insecurities, ep 16 she acts out of spite, ep 17 now she acts based on strategy, something she's almost never done before outside of working with the heroes for ep 12 and 13. i still stand by saying that ally in ep 15 was well written, her decision to vote aiden because he said he prefers jake seemed to be from a place of insecurities after hearing someone imply that they don't like her as much as someone else, which, to make it even worse, the person aiden prefers more then ally is Jake, the one person ally cannot stand.
I think Jake's development is actually amazing this season and he went from my least favorite by far in season 1, swiftly becoming my top 10, then 5 and not top 2.
@@rob0bu5t it was nothing strategic. The only thing it could be strategic was when (I’m pretty sure it was) someone else said it’d hurt Jake in the long run. (Imo)
I honestly don't know or care at this point especially after todays episode (Won't spoil) For me I was rooting for Grett cuz its weird she had so much build up and potential and was going on to WIN and CLEAR every challenge JUST TO GIVE UP WINNING ONE CHALLENGE for Ally of all people???? When she could have easily beat her... Jake - Yeah he started out rough but overtime he became enjoyable and actually put effort to changing and taking people's advice! Also thanks to Ashley and mostly Connor for the second half, he needed that! And I liked Jake before (besides the toxic nature and how gullible he was) Ally is just a lost cause to me at this point because the ENTIRE SEASON she's had people come help her through things (Like Jake...) But she's gone to IGNORE ALL OF THAT and keep up the petty and spite towards Jake the ENTIRE RUN OF THIS SEASON! Which is insane, but now at the VERY end, suddenly she wants to play the game smart finally? And Riya... Just irredeemable, it feels they just want her to play the villain SO badly so that's all she does. She easily could have told connor how she feels but keeps hiding it or never showing anything about it. So overall if you would have told me THIS was the final 4 of the ALL-STAR season??? I would NOT have believed you, I personally think ALEC and GRETT deserved to be there the most! Out of all of them... Hell even GABBY! Cuz it just felt like they all got cut short out of nowhere. :/
As a literal jake stan i literally GASPED when i saw grett was eliminated. She was the literally most fitting all star to win growing as a person, still a villian but also an 'anti-hero' Her losing to this final 4 is just ASS. I know what the final 3 is because tiktok spoilers but im gonna pretend i dont for this anyalsis of these people Connor- got cheated out but are we seriously expecting him to win as a returning memeber, plus hes already rich would be the easiest thing to do to by letting him win as it wont get major backlash but i dont see the chances Jake- The whole fandom will go fucking crazy if he won and say it was just to please the audience cause hes the most liked contestant, Hes also already lived with the damn millionaire of 1st season also hes theorised to win a lot and Jared said the winner can be unpredictable Ally- BORING, TRYING TOO HARD TO MAKE HER RELEVANT AND ITS NOT WORKING but.. since they ARE trying to make ally relevant... and the winner may be unpredictable i feel like she might win Riya- Annoying ass villian unbearable every 2 seconds but I feel like cause Jared said the winner can be unpredictable AND shes getting some weird redemption arc with the cameras and connor I feel like shes winning.. Worst final 4 GRETT WAS ROBBED Edit: Also forgot to say how robbed Gabby was as well her and Grett were the best winner picks
Gabby's elimination was unfair, but I've been rooting for her and Riya since the season began. If Riya lost I would be sad, but only too sad if Ally was to win. If Jake wins it's fine for me. Ally was a better character in S2 than S3 imo.
I swear riya is like a writers per bc like the amount of times she avoided eliminations and spoiler alert 🚨 . 1 2 3 SHE is in the final 3 AGAIN How is this possible 😭😭
@@baconglowzThey be hating bc of riya making finals again but don’t understand the context of it Ellie and fiore didn’t do anything gabby took the revenge but after that she is not gonna work with the villains anymore thats ehy she got purged grett didn’t do anything only got yul out and alec she was just there yul was just crule nothing more alec make the villain alliance but after that he didn’t do anything meanwhile Riya. she sabotaged the game manipulated ally and jake broke connor apart Played smart for kissinh alec in frot of connor She did most of the villains never could Riya no one can change my mind You deserved the final spot and you can win!
Honestly as final three I would've left Grett, Jake & Ally. Leaving Jake on 3th place... Basically giving a "solution" to this whole plot armor he unnecesarily carries with ( Which also I wouldn't really like Tom and Jake ending up together... I mean, they've been perjuring eachother without explanation for a while now, doesn't it sound extremely forced? ) Then leaving Grett vs Ally as the real competition... Leaving Ally in 2nd place and finally Grett in 1st place. I Believe Grett's character had a complete 360° turn of events... But It's most than justifies. While keeping her analytical composure now she's more secure of herself, something which she's been working on during the entire season, finding out what she's capable of and being completely alright by herself, without needing other's constant opinions to build a character she isn't. Her realization on this topic on the last episodes was phenomenal, well written and developed. The only detail I would've changed is making slightly more friendly Grett's with the rest, like the relationship she hold with Gabby on the last episodes, It actually felt like Grett's authentic persona while aswell keeping her confidence and analytical demeanor. I think that way It would have been even more perfect for her to fit as a winner. However here we are, Grett being eliminated by... Other character's plot armor, not surprising coming from Odd Nations Cartoons. While Ally is also a potential winner... Her new character isn't really likeable, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the idea of her developtment and her being her ownself now, but this whole idea of "ownself" is twisted at the end. The Ally we're seeing now is basically an Ally molded by Riya's idea. She's NOT herself once again. And that's what make Grett differ from Ally. The idea of self volition is messed up in Ally's case. In synthesis, I believe neither of this 4 contestants deserve the win after all. It's regrettable that this is the characters we were left with. Riya and Jake have been dragging an unnecesary plot armor, Ally is getting a badly scripted developtment and Connor simply doesn't make sense as the winner.
Hey Billy, can we talk about how Connor coming back ruined the season? Like the moment he came back all the major plotlines just ended. Mostly Gabby's plot. That was hella rushed.
And people were complaining about Aiden overstaying at least he kept things interesting (ironic isn't it : because of the other complaint about him now most wish he stayed instead of Riya HA I love it)
wait i’ve just realised this is quite a coincidence because they’re both all stars seasons but i think this seasons final 4 is SO alike total drama all stars: riya being scott, ally being mike/mal, jake being zoey and connor being gwen
Riya is completely irredeemable... and I'm actually loving it. I agree that she should not win and is way overdue karma but I actually really like that a villain stays a villain and even doubles down on it. My final 4 ranking: 1. Jake 2. Riya 3. Connor 4. Ally
I think out of the final 4 Connor or Ally deserve the money the most. Even though Ally did some... questionable things her actions are nowhere near as bad as Riya's. Yes, she left Jake to die and that's horrible but at this point 70% of the cast endangered somebody's life: James, Riya, Yul even Ashley when she landed on Fiore in ep 2 and Jake in ep 16 when he threw Ally on the rock it's honestly a miracle he didn't crush her skull. Ally actually in the last few episodes played strategical and had zero plot armor unlike some people... (Riya and Jake). I think I don't need to explain why Connor deserves to win. Riya even though she's been fully focused on the game and had some really good strategies her actions are just unforgivable and her plot armor is INSANE. Honestly Jake doesn't really deserve to win cause he most of the time plays the game really emotionally but especially because this dude has INSANE plot armor. Let me explain: - in episode 2 you think that Hunter, Ally and James would vote together and Jake would have to face James in a tiebreaker but no - Ally and Hunter voted for Fiore and James for Jake, - In episode 10 you think that Jake would be eliminated but no- Ashley is eliminated instead, - In episode 14 you think that Jake wouldn't get out of this whole bear situation alive but no - actually he isn't even injured, - In episode 15 you think that Ally flipping to the villains means that Jake would be eliminated but no - he wins immunity, - In episode 16 he was about get voted out but no - Connor saved him with immunity idol, - In episode 17 you think that Ally would vote for Jake but no - she flipped again. Overall at this point I want Ally to win cause even though connor deserves the money I really don't want him to win but I would be even more mad if Riya wins. Jake doesn't deserve to win but I wouldn't mind him winning.
With Connor hoping on one foot, this may be an The Amazing Race reference over what happened to one team when the father got got injured, but despite that, they were the one of the top teams until they the injury got too much to forced the team to quit.
@@jadamayers6968 It's like everyone in the first half had alright reasons for the things they do and have Jake being one of the annoyingest characters and then at the later half they flipped it and a lot of people are suddenly stupid (Ally.) and rushed people's arcs (Gabby) (Gret) and have Jake be likeable
I think it’s so cool and awesome that our final 4 for this season consists of two former members of the yellow team in Connor and that witch Riya and the two former members of the magenta team in Jake and Ally
I agree entirely, I don’t even know who tho root for anymore the ending of this season is such a let down I think most of the reason is how they write the scripts, odd nation cartoons don’t take their time with the writing putting quantity of episodes over quality I sincerely hope that season 4 is better with the research on where the characters are from and avoid negative stereotypes
im pretty sure one of the ppl who work on the show said that they made it like that bc it was unpredictable. they made the final four terrible just to be unpredictable.
Well... That doesn't make any sense, If they're basing their finale on making it unpredictable maybe they should've considered making Miriam the winner again, no sense.
If this is the legit reason they gave for this final 4 pick. That's gotta be one of the biggest cases of just bad writing you don't write things just for the sake of them being unpredictable you have to make it make sense and give good reason for these eliminations and placements. Like if that is actually the case that's just insane
If Jake wins the whole series will go on a nosedive. Seriously the only people deserving the win was either Grett or Ally prior to her new lame-ahh "villian" arc. Right now I see no solution to the finale of this season.
Loved the video, great as always and awesome prediction!! Honestly I think, with how much Jared has been defending Riyas character on twitter, she'll probably win this season. Since it kinda feels like, he's disappointed in how the audience reacts to her. This was probably not his or the writers intent. I would actually kinda love it, when she wins, so Disventure Camp finally becomes a full parody of itself. (insert evil laugh here) Also it's kinda funny to me, how bad the writing is. ONC really needs to take writing lessons. And this comes from a person, who considers themself a pretty good writer. Like, I dont do it professionally, but literally everyone could write something better than this. So yeah, its sad to see how something I really enjoyed and was fond of, completely shattered itself and lost me in the process. And that's not even mentioning how young people and even teenagers/children save up all their money, so they can support this show, by buying these greetings or becoming a patron. Which I don't mind, but at least give them a good product that is worth of supporting.
I am really hoping ally wins I believe Ally is gonna win immunity cause she's the only one who hasn't won immunity yet. And tbh she needs to make hunter proud lol. Votes Jake: Riya Conner: Riya Ally: Riya Riya: Jake Riya is out and conner drops out during the finale so it'll end with Ally VS Jake. Where im hoping Ally wins
(SPOLIERS FOR EP 18) 3rd: Riya. She's going to be eliminated in the motel episode. At the end of the episode, the eliminated campers will be allowed to vote for the camper they want out. It's quite self explanatory Riya would be out. 2nd: Ally. Ally would lose in the final challenge, thinking about the stuff that would happen if she didn't win. She thought about her maybe going to jail for leaving Jake for bear food. Hunter and Tess cheer her on, but Ally doesn't go. She thinks she's done ruthless things, and she doesn't deserve the win. 1st: Jake Self explanatory.
Funfact:Ever since some episodes i started to get interested only on the hosts plotline,which was alredy one of the things that interested me the most,expecially since ep 6
They all got reasons for and against Jake already experienced help by Miriam after the first season by her helping him out of his parents house. If I wanted Jake to win I’d want him to give some of it to Ashley to help with her farm For riya to win the “riya wins but she’s alone” is good. The theory is that she’ll win but nobody will care and run over to console the losers. For ally to win I honestly don’t have a way for her. She’s better off as 2nd place. It’s too late for her to go on a redemption arc unless in the hotel of losers episode shows Hunter either not liking the way she acts/leaving ally would maybe help her get her act together even thought it’d be heavily rushed. I could also see Tess not liking the way ally is treating all the other contestants and talking to ally with ally refusing to talk to Tess which ends with Hunter leaving ally. For Connor to win it would complete an arc where he finally wins money on his own without help (his perfume company being passed down to him) so it would be a complete arc that kind of sets up a win. Overall I’d be happy with Jake or Connor. If ally goes through the previously said things I wouldn’t mind her winning but riya basically can’t win at this point.
All I'm gonna say is... if Riya wins... I'm never watching UA-cam again... Nonetheless great analysis video! I'm hoping for a Connor or Jake win at this point ❤
The thing I am personally mad for, is how some Riya fans say she "ate" by basically breaking Connor's leg, but when Ally left Jake with the bear everybody started hating on her, I don't know why Riya fans still exist, it's just so stupid.
@JamesDheartsUndertale True, but still it's wrong to say she ate, idc if she meant it or not Connor still got hurt and her fans are protecting her from what she has done
@@JamesDheartsUndertaleI hate her because she choose to maintain that "Villain" persona instead of apologizing to Connor. I hope if she gets redeemed, Connor chooses to stay away from her, because Riya deserved it.
I saw this post in the Disventure camp subreddit, and thought it would be interesting: Riya winning at this point in time would actually make this season unironically a subversive master piece. I say this to you, as Riya’s biggest hater, but I actually, genuinely believe that Riya winning is the best course of action for this show. And here’s how. Next episode: Connor leaves, I know that sounds harsh, but let’s go with it. Riya wins immunity, and Connor just decides to leave voluntarily for Jake and Ally, just as he did for Riya in season 2. Leaving Riya angry she didn’t even get a chance to destroy Connor at all. Motel Episode: we use the motel episode to patch up most of the antagonists. Namely Yul and Fiore. We’re going to make them the biggest focuses. Have Yul realize through Riya how much of a dick he is. And have Fiore realize Riya is who her parents view her as. Both of them commit to being better people after viewing Riya. Hell, toss Ellie in there too. Final 3 part 1: normal stuff, but have Ally and Jake working against each other, blaming each other for Connor deciding to leave. While Tom and Tess, give them therapeutic talking about stuff. Final 3 part 2: Jake and Ally both apologize for being horrible to each other this whole season; and decide to just let Riya win. Keep in mind, after the motel episode, nobody will support Riya, so she wins on her own. Riya now wins, and, instead of getting congratulations from anyone, she’s given sarcastic, annoyed responses. The realization kicks in, but by now, it’s too late, she’s burned every bridge, turned everyone against her, and now, she’s truly all alone, her worst nightmare. Have this end here. That’s the best way to end the show.
Welcome to the channel! :D I believe I also commented this in the reddit post but Riya winning would leave such a sour taste in my mouth, her realizing it's "too late" is a direct copy from s2, as well as end the season on a bad note for literally everyone. What a way to end your show.
Knowing that the Disventure Camp writers would rather have a shocking elimination than an elimination that makes sense, Jake will be the next boot and Riya the writer’s pet will win All Stars
the problem with the final four is it’s impossible to like them. in the final fours prior, all of them were rootable and likeable in their own way. however this final four is incredibly difficult to root for due to their messy/terrible writing
A important final 2 is A Gen1 Cast member and Gen2 Cast Member, Aiden is the Owen of DC as he appears in most thumbnails and Grett because she has a Heather World Tour Arc
Right, It doesn't really matter the ending, any possible winner is going to be ridiculous. None of those 4 really fit as "winners". Honestly I've rooted for either Grett, Tess, Ashley or Ellie to be the winners.
Hopefully Ally one hint or maybe trick if they provided this that Ally was the first player to appear in episode 10's trailer and James and Miriam were the the first to appear in the 10th episode trailer of the season they won.
@@JaxToonzshe is the best final 4 contestant tho and the only person who deserves the money at this point (because yk, she is the only one who actually needs it)
As a jake fan i dont personally want him to win and others agree mainly because they hate jake and if he won it would justify some of his bad actions when that wouldnt really be for that reason he has grown and has become more likeable to some of the people who hated him before but with the fact that riya and ally dont really deserve it because of their storylines up to this point i kinda see connor winning but im not really sure
The only person that I want to win is Jake, because he has been the most annoying character in the being of the season with Tom and Aiden drama. But, after Ashley left he became better with his personality. Ally actually became worse over the season, with Jake and hunter. Riya was always been mid in my opinion, but the drama with Conner and Alec made her 100 percent worse, and Conner I would not mind if he won but like if he stopped being a simp for Riya he would’ve been such a better character
Idk if you’ve seen this video or not but someone made a video about the meltdown that is of the Cyan team knowing that they lost all of their members of their team before the other two teams combined, it sadly made me think of Team Victory from TDWT to where they lost their whole team before everyone other team started to lose their members you know
Idk why you think ally won't go finale she's actually the only one who needs the money and Connors injured and people will hate Connor even more for being a writers pet bc of his injury and it will seem pike bias writing also ally is the underdog of the season with only 1 vote by fiore and she eliminated grett and increased het odds of winning
IM CALLING IT NOW RIYA IS GONNA WIN Riya is currently the character NOBODY expects to win, so having Riya win would make her the most interesting winner and WOULD subvert expectations like they said they wanted to. Having a dissatisfying winner could play into Riya's guilt and cause her to snap. I'm not sure what way they will take it but I do still think Riya has the highest chance to win ASSUMING she doesn't get overpowered by someone's plot armor XD Additionally I think it's best if she wins because she has sacrificed the most to get this far. She has severely hurt Rosa (in S2) and now Connor MULTIPLE TIMES, so if she does lose it will be for nothing. Hopefully if she does win she can use the money to pay for her therapy she desperately needs.
This is a fine Final 4, it’s fictional after all. I seen worse Final 4 on Big Brother and Survivor and those are real reality tv shows. I’m not sure if many of you guys even watch reality tv shows if you want to know what real disappointment is 😂
In my opinion, Jake should win because he’s been taking all this stuff from Ally the whole season, and Ally has just been tormenting him. Ally has really let her character go. Ria is just conniving backstabbing like she always is and Connor already got voted out so my opinion, Jake should win also because he had a lot of problems and trauma and he’s just been able to overcome it so he deserves to win
Here's my opinions on this season: I was honestly so upset when Grett was eliminated, it really felt like they were setting up her and Jake to be the final 2 to me. I was really hoping it would be them too, because I feel like they're the only ones left who actually deserve it ☠️ Connor's a good guy, but he's already rich, he doesn't NEED the money. The others all have better reasons for competing, and are actually doing it for the money. His main motivation this whole season has just been Riya. Though, I feel like no one in the current 4 actually needs the money. But out of all of them, Connor is likely the one who needs it the least, and he didn't even come on the show to try and win it. So if he did, I'd be pretty disappointed. His arc can be completed without him winning, I could see him managing to get Riya voted out before he ultimately gets out. Both Riya and Ally went way too far and got too many chances to be redeemed at this point. It isn't even fun rooting for them anymore, and it genuinely annoys me how they're still in the game. It feels like the show is dragging them out as villains, and ruining their characters in the process. Their transitions into villains both felt forced to me, especially Ally. A villain winner would be nice, but I still want to be able to root for them. Grett was the perfect candidate for this. She was manipulative and willing to play dirty, but still had morals. Riya and Ally both endangered people multiple times, and they even nearly someone killed. Grett managed to genuinely improve as a person after her loss in season 1, worked on her insecurities and lose weight, got out of a toxic relationship and overcame her manipulative ex, and gained a lot of power in the game surprisingly fast once she was able to play how SHE wanted to. Nobody can say that Grett didn't deserve to win 😭 and it was right there for the show to use.
Honestly Jake and/or Connor are the only people that i want to see winning. I just don’t see Ally winning at all i just never really cared for her she’s a complete NPC. Riya her downfall definitely gonna be in the finale either she wins and nobody cares about her, or Trevor and Emily’s plan happens making the show bankrupt and Riya wins but doesn’t get any money from it just nothing but hatred from every contestant. So i really want to see Jake or Connor winning.
I got more and more frustrated with this season, there's a lot of character assassinations from the characters first season to all-stars. Ally had a great story going into the season but they butchered the character which just makes no sense. I think she was someone a lot of people rooted for but they really made her go on the deep end of just becoming a hateful person when it seriously wasn't needed. She could have won the season with how she was acting in the first 12 episodes and everyone would be happy. Now if she would win there's not support from many to actually say she's a good character with a few flaws but still made it work. Now it would be more like "Yeah she won but... and... but... also..." so on and so forth (you can fill the details if you want) Jake still annoys me from the start of the season, his recent actions don't make him a good character for me. It was a whole derailment that could have been dealt with in episode 7 instead of around 14 or whenever it was. It was way too late and writing their potential winner like this is such a nightmare of a train wreck that we all don't really want to experience. Riya... (yeah same comments as you.) Connor is a good character but if we go back to the final 6, Grett and Alan would have been amazing winners of the season story wise, now we have Connor to be a better winner than the other 4. Which really is the bottom of the barrel of the pool of potential winners that we could have had. I hope that if there is another season that the writers stop thinking of plot twists before actually establishing how the season will go because it really felt as if they wanted to show a lot of shock factor instead of a good story at the end and it alienates the fandom quite a lot and makes us not trust that the next series will be good. I am still going to watch it but if it has a lot of the same flaws or even new worse flaws then I am just going to back out and just do my usual stuff that I do. This isn't a series where I am super passionate with either but it was something I really enjoyed watching.
I have a feeling it’s gonna be Ally, after episode 15 everyone turned on her and right now she’s the most in danger character. Let’s be fr Jake is super predictable and Riya… well I don’t see her winning and she doesn’t need to because she’s already rich anyways. Connor is a returner and is also rich so I don’t really see him winning either, especially with his broken leg. That just kinda leaves Ally who’s sort of predictable but at the same time a lot of people wouldn’t expect it. And like Jared said there may not be a protagonist winner and Ally wasn’t exactly a protagonist this season so there’s that.
Throwing the win on someone who's had little to no development might be the worst mistake ONC have done Plus Jake is really good at challenges, so he does have a fair chance
@@sau7255 he does yes but onc hates predictable winners and Jake winning would be very boring, also I really believe that no one here in the final 4 deserves the win, there are way better characters
With Grett “winning”, they shows wasn’t hiding the fact she was a decoy winner from the moment both Yul and Gabby left. While people do overhate on Ally sniping Grett, the counterargument is there of Grett overplayed to get caught by Ally.
At this point the most subversive yet sensibly realistic ending is Ally seeing the error of Riya's ways from her cruel abuse of Connor and the three of them ganging up on Riya to eliminate her in a similar way to Gwen and Owen's brigade against Heather. Then Connor would suffer the effects of his injuries/be too exhausted from his age to continue, and Ally would decide to resolve differences with Jake and play fair, maturing to not need incessant appraisal or scheme against others, and win against Jake.
@@mandash4762 I mean the only reason I didn’t put ally on is because she is back and forth on her development, same with riya. Ashley could’ve been used a bit better, but in all honesty the only reason she s here is because she’s a fan favourite. (Imo)
based on episode 18, i think riya is gonna place 3rd, looking back i cant believe i didnt realise think it would be Jake vs Ally since its been one of the main drama fights between characters going on throughout the season
this is becoming a trend for an all-stars season to be awful, Total Drama had a terrible season, Disventure Camp went downhill. Is there an all-stars curse going on?
Do not look if you don't like spoilers, it's from episode 18 (without spoiling anything) I am so sorry for your opinion, Connor got injured so o-o I watched episode 18
This video is made based on the events up to episode 17, please don't use your knowledge of episode 18 to counter the predictions or criticisms in this video. Come back here if you don't agree with me after my ep18 reaction releases on sunday.
@MontelDublin-pp9qnYou forgot the don't at the start of that sentence
Still Connor finale is just DUMH yeah let him hop around in finale yeah...also Connor,Jake Riya don't need the money so ally not getting finale is criminal
@@SECOND_CHANCE_FOR_LAKEfr 😭
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I personally don't think s4 will be like all stars because its so much harder to make an all stars season then a debuted season
After gretts elimination, i feel like everyone, including me, has been ranting about how this is the worst final 4 bc grett felt like the perfect winner to everybody
I see you everywhere in silly billys video oh btw SPOILERS(EP 18)
riya is in the finales again
i really wanted grett out and she finally did
Not the worst, we could've gotten Miriam, Riya, James and Fiore 💀
A full finale finale
Not really, i wouldn’t have cared if she won
I WANT RIYA TO WIN OMGGG SHE NEEDS TO WIN RIYA OR JAKE
I wish the finale was about how Trevor and Emily's plan works out and they'd cancel the show (so nobody wins), Trevor takes the money, Kristal gets fired and Emily takes her place as the host for season 4. Perfect ending
and the tapes get deleted at the end so the audience doesn't have to suffer (oh and also nobody sees what a TaLeNteD aCtREsS she is lol)
@@SillyBillyDucky to be honest, if that's how she thinks she can convince producers she can be an actress, then I can see why she needs the money
I'll be honest, that doesn't sound like a bad idea lmao.
that would be really interesting, I like that idea
actually yea, I'm kinda an idiot so I didn't pay attention that much but that idea is actually fire
my only nitpick is that I would actually want to see a winner officialized after all that mess but other than that it's an idea I can get behind anytime
Whats funny is that everyone in the finale already has money. Jake is with miriam and thats free money, riya is an actress, connor owns a whole company, and ally is a streamer who probably makes money
makes sense that an Ellie pfp is the one to mention this
Not all streamers jave money
i don't honestly think Ally has a lot of money. based like on that letter from ep 17 it kinda seems like she still didn't move out from her mom's home
Considering ally stills lives in her parents house, and she mentions that she doesn’t have a streaming career yet, ally still needs the money.
And deserve to win unlike others...@@BowieSlayz
At this point, the writers are kicking out the characters that people are predicting as winner
right? grett had a winners arc right there and then she’s gone 😭
It feels like they're spinning a wheel on who goes home, especially after seeing who leaves in episode 18...
@@activeagainyall_____REAL…. grett was like the most unfair elimination other then Rosa Maria.
Real, bc they know that Riya will win this way
yul gabby Alec grett
The worst part about Silly Billy hating DC:AS is that he himself is apart of the show.
... yeah :/
@@SillyBillyDucky I love Trevor! TREVOR AND DEREK BETTER (ALSO TOM AND JAKE) KISS OR I WILL HUNT THE PRODUCERS DOWN! You are an amazing VA Billy! Your so good and I will love to see what else you do!
@@SillyBillyDuckySILLY IRONY!
@@SillyBillyDucky ur lucky u got a good character!!
@@totallyyyobsesseddweeeeeeeell
Not even Billy is satisfied with the route this show is taking. And he's a voice actor in the show!!
So far this season's elimination order has been great
*Before Yul*
What sucks is that Grett should of been in the next episode based on the challenge itself since they’re recreating the outfits of the respective person. From what I seen and was able to piece together is for jake, it’s Tom. For Connor, it’s Alec. For Ally, it’s Ashley. And for Riya, it’s Connor, which isn’t as impactful since Connor is still in the game. If Grett was in this challenge, I would have liked to see her create Gabby.
@@Blueshark_tides or yul for the shits and giggles tbh
@@JaxToonzlmao, for the shits and giggles 😭
2:21 i still feel like ashley could’ve made it farther, and they gave her mor potential and an arc
Yeah she couldve gotton revenge on ellie/gabby.
imagine she comes back to the competition in the hotel episode lmfao
Now we're left with final 4 where no outcome is going to be satisfying for me and a lot of other fans:
- Jake: incedibly flawed and whiny in the first half of the season with a bit of regress here and there even after his character development. Even worse, the biggest screenhog of the season and with the upcoming miniseries about him and Tom, I just want the creators to get him out of my screen already. Not to mention, he doesn't need the money that much since Miriam shared her prize with him.
- Connor: a fairly sympathetic character with a story fitting for a winner, but unfortunately he often flip flopped between wanting to give Riya a chance and being done with her, to the point it's annoying. And he returned, a returning winner will always feel unfair to those who competed the whole time. And he's already rich. Plus, if he wins after his VA started writing episodes, this is going to feel like a major bias.
- Ally: a reverse story of Jake. If he gets more sympathetic (but the first impression is still too hard to shake off for me), she gets more unsympathetic as time goes on. I love me a villain character, but she's been making so many dumb and petty moves because of Jake, especially in the TikTok challenge. It's hard to root for her now and this is coming from someone who liked her since Season 2! And she's fairly well-off as a streamer. Unfortunately, she also spent too many episodes as an out-of-focus NPC in the background.
- Riya: a combination of all of the above - already rich, a screenhog, inconsistent, incredibly unsympathetic.
i think a common issue with the current final 4 is that 3 of them started their stories too late with not enough build up. meanwhile Jake started his story early and kept it going for 12 episodes, 15 if you include the becoming friends with aiden plot.
jake i at least think he's grown as a person and become actually enjoyable though which is an upside to having a longer development.
Connor has been mostly fine recently but his story of trying to prove he can actually do something worthwhile'd only started in ep 14, at the end of the episode, and hasn't even been about that since it was more Alec focused.
Riya, her story was about keeping up appearances in the media, something which i think a lot of people could relate to even without being literally on camera all the time. and Ep 17 was a good representation of this, that scene with riya in ep 17 was really good, but thats the problem, it's just that episode. there has been a lack of that nicer side and hiding it from the camera's since EP 3
and its the same issue with ally except add a layer of inconsistency, ep 14 she acted out of pure spite, ep 15 she seemed to act out of insecurities, ep 16 she acts out of spite, ep 17 now she acts based on strategy, something she's almost never done before outside of working with the heroes for ep 12 and 13. i still stand by saying that ally in ep 15 was well written, her decision to vote aiden because he said he prefers jake seemed to be from a place of insecurities after hearing someone imply that they don't like her as much as someone else, which, to make it even worse, the person aiden prefers more then ally is Jake, the one person ally cannot stand.
SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 18
(nothing bad)
:), episode 18, why onc.
I think Jake's development is actually amazing this season and he went from my least favorite by far in season 1, swiftly becoming my top 10, then 5 and not top 2.
I agree with you about ally being insecure in ep 15, and thus voting aiden, but I think it was also to make jake angry/lose an ally or strategy
@@rob0bu5t it was nothing strategic. The only thing it could be strategic was when (I’m pretty sure it was) someone else said it’d hurt Jake in the long run. (Imo)
@@JaxToonz idk but sure
I honestly don't know or care at this point especially after todays episode (Won't spoil)
For me I was rooting for Grett cuz its weird she had so much build up and potential and was going on to WIN and CLEAR every challenge JUST TO GIVE UP WINNING ONE CHALLENGE for Ally of all people???? When she could have easily beat her...
Jake - Yeah he started out rough but overtime he became enjoyable and actually put effort to changing and taking people's advice! Also thanks to Ashley and mostly Connor for the second half, he needed that! And I liked Jake before (besides the toxic nature and how gullible he was)
Ally is just a lost cause to me at this point because the ENTIRE SEASON she's had people come help her through things (Like Jake...) But she's gone to IGNORE ALL OF THAT and keep up the petty and spite towards Jake the ENTIRE RUN OF THIS SEASON! Which is insane, but now at the VERY end, suddenly she wants to play the game smart finally?
And Riya... Just irredeemable, it feels they just want her to play the villain SO badly so that's all she does. She easily could have told connor how she feels but keeps hiding it or never showing anything about it.
So overall if you would have told me THIS was the final 4 of the ALL-STAR season??? I would NOT have believed you, I personally think ALEC and GRETT deserved to be there the most! Out of all of them... Hell even GABBY! Cuz it just felt like they all got cut short out of nowhere. :/
Riya should’ve been gone ages ago, alec should’ve been in the final 3
As a literal jake stan i literally GASPED when i saw grett was eliminated. She was the literally most fitting all star to win growing as a person, still a villian but also an 'anti-hero' Her losing to this final 4 is just ASS.
I know what the final 3 is because tiktok spoilers but im gonna pretend i dont for this anyalsis of these people
Connor- got cheated out but are we seriously expecting him to win as a returning memeber, plus hes already rich would be the easiest thing to do to by letting him win as it wont get major backlash but i dont see the chances
Jake- The whole fandom will go fucking crazy if he won and say it was just to please the audience cause hes the most liked contestant, Hes also already lived with the damn millionaire of 1st season also hes theorised to win a lot and Jared said the winner can be unpredictable
Ally- BORING, TRYING TOO HARD TO MAKE HER RELEVANT AND ITS NOT WORKING but.. since they ARE trying to make ally relevant... and the winner may be unpredictable i feel like she might win
Riya- Annoying ass villian unbearable every 2 seconds but I feel like cause Jared said the winner can be unpredictable AND shes getting some weird redemption arc with the cameras and connor I feel like shes winning..
Worst final 4 GRETT WAS ROBBED
Edit: Also forgot to say how robbed Gabby was as well her and Grett were the best winner picks
I disagree Grett was Yul's lapdog for 13 episodes straight and even that didnt feel satisfying when she finally stood up to him
@@sau7255 I agree with that but she was getting better in the last few episodes finally doing what we knew best but then gets outsmarted by ALLY
Gabby's elimination was unfair, but I've been rooting for her and Riya since the season began. If Riya lost I would be sad, but only too sad if Ally was to win. If Jake wins it's fine for me. Ally was a better character in S2 than S3 imo.
I think SillyBilly may hate Riya, I’m not exactly sure though.
that’s a bold guess if you ask me. he’s barely ever shown it! 🤭
@@toocooltobeblu yeah i know right? 🤔🤔
Nah, Funny Matthew seems like the #1 riya fan tbh
Silly Billy DESPISES RIYAHHHHH
No, he loves her! wdym?..
I swear riya is like a writers per bc like the amount of times she avoided eliminations and spoiler alert 🚨 .
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SHE is in the final 3 AGAIN How is this possible 😭😭
She is the main villain
i mean it makes since because if it was a finale of 3 heros that would be kinda boring
@@baconglowzThey be hating bc of riya making finals again but don’t understand the context of it
Ellie and fiore didn’t do anything
gabby took the revenge but after that she is not gonna work with the villains anymore thats ehy she got purged
grett didn’t do anything only got yul out and alec she was just there
yul was just crule nothing more
alec make the villain alliance but after that he didn’t do anything
meanwhile Riya. she sabotaged the game manipulated ally and jake broke connor apart Played smart for kissinh alec in frot of connor She did most of the villains never could
Riya no one can change my mind You deserved the final spot and you can win!
@@rosheditszzz yeah i want riya to win too if she doesn’t then i hope ally wins
@@baconglowz Exactly what i want
Honestly as final three I would've left Grett, Jake & Ally. Leaving Jake on 3th place... Basically giving a "solution" to this whole plot armor he unnecesarily carries with ( Which also I wouldn't really like Tom and Jake ending up together... I mean, they've been perjuring eachother without explanation for a while now, doesn't it sound extremely forced? ) Then leaving Grett vs Ally as the real competition... Leaving Ally in 2nd place and finally Grett in 1st place. I Believe Grett's character had a complete 360° turn of events... But It's most than justifies. While keeping her analytical composure now she's more secure of herself, something which she's been working on during the entire season, finding out what she's capable of and being completely alright by herself, without needing other's constant opinions to build a character she isn't. Her realization on this topic on the last episodes was phenomenal, well written and developed. The only detail I would've changed is making slightly more friendly Grett's with the rest, like the relationship she hold with Gabby on the last episodes, It actually felt like Grett's authentic persona while aswell keeping her confidence and analytical demeanor. I think that way It would have been even more perfect for her to fit as a winner. However here we are, Grett being eliminated by... Other character's plot armor, not surprising coming from Odd Nations Cartoons. While Ally is also a potential winner... Her new character isn't really likeable, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the idea of her developtment and her being her ownself now, but this whole idea of "ownself" is twisted at the end. The Ally we're seeing now is basically an Ally molded by Riya's idea. She's NOT herself once again. And that's what make Grett differ from Ally. The idea of self volition is messed up in Ally's case.
In synthesis, I believe neither of this 4 contestants deserve the win after all. It's regrettable that this is the characters we were left with. Riya and Jake have been dragging an unnecesary plot armor, Ally is getting a badly scripted developtment and Connor simply doesn't make sense as the winner.
Hey Billy, can we talk about how Connor coming back ruined the season? Like the moment he came back all the major plotlines just ended. Mostly Gabby's plot. That was hella rushed.
And people were complaining about Aiden overstaying at least he kept things interesting (ironic isn't it : because of the other complaint about him now most wish he stayed instead of Riya HA I love it)
actually we have Geoff and Brody being a winner/runner up in ridonculous race, so it's possible for returning characters to win
Yeah but Geoff and Brody were gone for one episode only, Connor has been gone for multiple.
My favorite days are the days that Silly Billy posts!
wait i’ve just realised this is quite a coincidence because they’re both all stars seasons but i think this seasons final 4 is SO alike total drama all stars: riya being scott, ally being mike/mal, jake being zoey and connor being gwen
I really wanted grett to win honestly💔‼️
but jake is gonna win beacuse the show is just like that
Riya is completely irredeemable... and I'm actually loving it. I agree that she should not win and is way overdue karma but I actually really like that a villain stays a villain and even doubles down on it.
My final 4 ranking:
1. Jake
2. Riya
3. Connor
4. Ally
I think out of the final 4 Connor or Ally deserve the money the most. Even though Ally did some... questionable things her actions are nowhere near as bad as Riya's. Yes, she left Jake to die and that's horrible but at this point 70% of the cast endangered somebody's life: James, Riya, Yul even Ashley when she landed on Fiore in ep 2 and Jake in ep 16 when he threw Ally on the rock it's honestly a miracle he didn't crush her skull. Ally actually in the last few episodes played strategical and had zero plot armor unlike some people... (Riya and Jake). I think I don't need to explain why Connor deserves to win. Riya even though she's been fully focused on the game and had some really good strategies her actions are just unforgivable and her plot armor is INSANE. Honestly Jake doesn't really deserve to win cause he most of the time plays the game really emotionally but especially because this dude has INSANE plot armor. Let me explain:
- in episode 2 you think that Hunter, Ally and James would vote together and Jake would have to face James in a tiebreaker but no - Ally and Hunter voted for Fiore and James for Jake,
- In episode 10 you think that Jake would be eliminated but no- Ashley is eliminated instead,
- In episode 14 you think that Jake wouldn't get out of this whole bear situation alive but no - actually he isn't even injured,
- In episode 15 you think that Ally flipping to the villains means that Jake would be eliminated but no - he wins immunity,
- In episode 16 he was about get voted out but no - Connor saved him with immunity idol,
- In episode 17 you think that Ally would vote for Jake but no - she flipped again.
Overall at this point I want Ally to win cause even though connor deserves the money I really don't want him to win but I would be even more mad if Riya wins. Jake doesn't deserve to win but I wouldn't mind him winning.
With Connor hoping on one foot, this may be an The Amazing Race reference over what happened to one team when the father got got injured, but despite that, they were the one of the top teams until they the injury got too much to forced the team to quit.
This season has just been....something I guess.
The first half was very satisfying, the second half was so inconsistent with their characters
@@jadamayers6968 It's like everyone in the first half had alright reasons for the things they do and have Jake being one of the annoyingest characters and then at the later half they flipped it and a lot of people are suddenly stupid (Ally.) and rushed people's arcs (Gabby) (Gret) and have Jake be likeable
Funny thing is that the first half of the season was done by one writer, then the other half was done by another writer.
Trevor is winnig the season!!
Now THAT would be awesome
Deserved tbh
I think it’s so cool and awesome that our final 4 for this season consists of two former members of the yellow team in Connor and that witch Riya and the two former members of the magenta team in Jake and Ally
I agree entirely, I don’t even know who tho root for anymore the ending of this season is such a let down
I think most of the reason is how they write the scripts, odd nation cartoons don’t take their time with the writing putting quantity of episodes over quality
I sincerely hope that season 4 is better with the research on where the characters are from and avoid negative stereotypes
Petition: Trevor should win this Season!!!
Grett should’ve won and Jake is the most likely winner probably rn
Grett had EVERY reason to win :(
@@givedawn_luv yeah, a finale with her, Jake (developed edition) and someone else who has a good / important story would’ve been gold
im pretty sure one of the ppl who work on the show said that they made it like that bc it was unpredictable. they made the final four terrible just to be unpredictable.
Well... That doesn't make any sense, If they're basing their finale on making it unpredictable maybe they should've considered making Miriam the winner again, no sense.
@@JavierManHe-12 i dont think anyone expected this to be the final 4 tho
Makes no sense since Jake has been predictable to make finale since Ashley's boot lol
If this is the legit reason they gave for this final 4 pick. That's gotta be one of the biggest cases of just bad writing you don't write things just for the sake of them being unpredictable you have to make it make sense and give good reason for these eliminations and placements. Like if that is actually the case that's just insane
@@mxm8029 if only we had a grett, alec, gabby, and someone else as the finale 4
I mean, if they're making a tom and jake show, it's pretty obvious who's going to win.
Or who doesn’t win because if Jake loses, ONC could easily make half the miniseries about Jake crying over his failure
God am i the one who doesnt care for this couple
@@JoaoPedro-eq3hj
No.
If Jake wins I’m going to lose it like he gets all of the spotlight and a spin off series like he doesn’t need a win
@@JoaoPedro-eq3hjFRRR I DONT GET IT-
Jake and ally(not riya) are the last hope since grett now out
Nah Ally is
ye ally best in final 3
not jake he sucks
If Jake wins the whole series will go on a nosedive. Seriously the only people deserving the win was either Grett or Ally prior to her new lame-ahh "villian" arc. Right now I see no solution to the finale of this season.
Connor or ally
Loved the video, great as always and awesome prediction!!
Honestly I think, with how much Jared has been defending Riyas character on twitter, she'll probably win this season. Since it kinda feels like, he's disappointed in how the audience reacts to her. This was probably not his or the writers intent.
I would actually kinda love it, when she wins, so Disventure Camp finally becomes a full parody of itself. (insert evil laugh here)
Also it's kinda funny to me, how bad the writing is. ONC really needs to take writing lessons. And this comes from a person, who considers themself a pretty good writer. Like, I dont do it professionally, but literally everyone could write something better than this.
So yeah, its sad to see how something I really enjoyed and was fond of, completely shattered itself and lost me in the process.
And that's not even mentioning how young people and even teenagers/children save up all their money, so they can support this show, by buying these greetings or becoming a patron.
Which I don't mind, but at least give them a good product that is worth of supporting.
I don't care who wins just not ally or riya 🙏
I am really hoping ally wins I believe Ally is gonna win immunity cause she's the only one who hasn't won immunity yet. And tbh she needs to make hunter proud lol. Votes
Jake: Riya
Conner: Riya
Ally: Riya
Riya: Jake
Riya is out and conner drops out during the finale so it'll end with Ally VS Jake. Where im hoping Ally wins
Riya is in the final 3 tho
(SPOLIERS FOR EP 18)
3rd: Riya.
She's going to be eliminated in the motel episode. At the end of the episode, the eliminated campers will be allowed to vote for the camper they want out. It's quite self explanatory Riya would be out.
2nd: Ally.
Ally would lose in the final challenge, thinking about the stuff that would happen if she didn't win. She thought about her maybe going to jail for leaving Jake for bear food. Hunter and Tess cheer her on, but Ally doesn't go. She thinks she's done ruthless things, and she doesn't deserve the win.
1st: Jake
Self explanatory.
wait is this how the show actually goes or your prediction?
ima guess prediction since it only says spoiler for ep 18
So yeah, Connor gets eliminated in episode 18
@@PreppyBaldzuko help why does riya gotta make it to the finale again 😭😭
@@PreppyBaldzuko Ik that
Funfact:Ever since some episodes i started to get interested only on the hosts plotline,which was alredy one of the things that interested me the most,expecially since ep 6
Fr especially when everything went downhill
At 1:14 he turn british
They all got reasons for and against Jake already experienced help by Miriam after the first season by her helping him out of his parents house. If I wanted Jake to win I’d want him to give some of it to Ashley to help with her farm
For riya to win the “riya wins but she’s alone” is good. The theory is that she’ll win but nobody will care and run over to console the losers.
For ally to win I honestly don’t have a way for her. She’s better off as 2nd place. It’s too late for her to go on a redemption arc unless in the hotel of losers episode shows Hunter either not liking the way she acts/leaving ally would maybe help her get her act together even thought it’d be heavily rushed. I could also see Tess not liking the way ally is treating all the other contestants and talking to ally with ally refusing to talk to Tess which ends with Hunter leaving ally.
For Connor to win it would complete an arc where he finally wins money on his own without help (his perfume company being passed down to him) so it would be a complete arc that kind of sets up a win.
Overall I’d be happy with Jake or Connor.
If ally goes through the previously said things I wouldn’t mind her winning but riya basically can’t win at this point.
pov: ur here after THE kiss
im here after trevek is canon😎
All I'm gonna say is... if Riya wins... I'm never watching UA-cam again... Nonetheless great analysis video! I'm hoping for a Connor or Jake win at this point ❤
Samee
The thing I am personally mad for, is how some Riya fans say she "ate" by basically breaking Connor's leg, but when Ally left Jake with the bear everybody started hating on her, I don't know why Riya fans still exist, it's just so stupid.
That move she pulled was flashy but wrong however she did not intend to do that though.
@JamesDheartsUndertale True, but still it's wrong to say she ate, idc if she meant it or not Connor still got hurt and her fans are protecting her from what she has done
@@JamesDheartsUndertaleI hate her because she choose to maintain that "Villain" persona instead of apologizing to Connor. I hope if she gets redeemed, Connor chooses to stay away from her, because Riya deserved it.
Im not "fan" of her bur I do like her, rooting for ally tho
bro imagine if riya wins😭 i doubt it but it's still possible-
I saw this post in the Disventure camp subreddit, and thought it would be interesting:
Riya winning at this point in time would actually make this season unironically a subversive master piece.
I say this to you, as Riya’s biggest hater, but I actually, genuinely believe that Riya winning is the best course of action for this show. And here’s how.
Next episode: Connor leaves, I know that sounds harsh, but let’s go with it. Riya wins immunity, and Connor just decides to leave voluntarily for Jake and Ally, just as he did for Riya in season 2. Leaving Riya angry she didn’t even get a chance to destroy Connor at all.
Motel Episode: we use the motel episode to patch up most of the antagonists. Namely Yul and Fiore. We’re going to make them the biggest focuses. Have Yul realize through Riya how much of a dick he is. And have Fiore realize Riya is who her parents view her as. Both of them commit to being better people after viewing Riya. Hell, toss Ellie in there too.
Final 3 part 1: normal stuff, but have Ally and Jake working against each other, blaming each other for Connor deciding to leave. While Tom and Tess, give them therapeutic talking about stuff.
Final 3 part 2: Jake and Ally both apologize for being horrible to each other this whole season; and decide to just let Riya win. Keep in mind, after the motel episode, nobody will support Riya, so she wins on her own.
Riya now wins, and, instead of getting congratulations from anyone, she’s given sarcastic, annoyed responses.
The realization kicks in, but by now, it’s too late, she’s burned every bridge, turned everyone against her, and now, she’s truly all alone, her worst nightmare.
Have this end here. That’s the best way to end the show.
Welcome to the channel! :D
I believe I also commented this in the reddit post but Riya winning would leave such a sour taste in my mouth, her realizing it's "too late" is a direct copy from s2, as well as end the season on a bad note for literally everyone. What a way to end your show.
@@SillyBillyDucky thank you, and yeah, that's a good point, it would just be a bummer of a final
Knowing that the Disventure Camp writers would rather have a shocking elimination than an elimination that makes sense, Jake will be the next boot and Riya the writer’s pet will win All Stars
U manifested ur own fan-fic and then stomped on it lmao
the problem with the final four is it’s impossible to like them. in the final fours prior, all of them were rootable and likeable in their own way. however this final four is incredibly difficult to root for due to their messy/terrible writing
If riya wins i want her to end up sad and alone forever periodt
The only satisfying win would be if Jake wins and splits his prize with Ashley.
Trashley 🤮
I will NOT tolerate this Ashely slander. Spiders mobilising to your location.@@TeddyBear-mj5fq
POOR BILLY!! YOUR FAVOURITE IS GONE AND YOUR LEAST FAVOURITE MADE THE FINALE AGAIN!!!
A important final 2 is A Gen1 Cast member and Gen2 Cast Member, Aiden is the Owen of DC as he appears in most thumbnails and Grett because she has a Heather World Tour Arc
If ally the npc wins that’d actually be the stupidest thing that’d happen.
Right, It doesn't really matter the ending, any possible winner is going to be ridiculous. None of those 4 really fit as "winners". Honestly I've rooted for either Grett, Tess, Ashley or Ellie to be the winners.
@@JavierManHe-12 welp they all gone
Silly Billy, you’re probably gonna make two parts to Episode 18 blind react
Cooner was able to stand after his legs were broken and came back after his elimination im ruting for him
Jake needs to win
Hopefully Ally one hint or maybe trick if they provided this that Ally was the first player to appear in episode 10's trailer and James and Miriam were the the first to appear in the 10th episode trailer of the season they won.
Are you suggesting Ally is gonna win cause I hope so
@@sahyrofilms I hope they aren’t, she’s definitely the second worst out of the lot imo
@@JaxToonz nah Conner is
@@sahyrofilms nah ally sucks tbh
@@JaxToonzshe is the best final 4 contestant tho and the only person who deserves the money at this point (because yk, she is the only one who actually needs it)
As a jake fan i dont personally want him to win and others agree mainly because they hate jake and if he won it would justify some of his bad actions when that wouldnt really be for that reason he has grown and has become more likeable to some of the people who hated him before but with the fact that riya and ally dont really deserve it because of their storylines up to this point i kinda see connor winning but im not really sure
It is Ally vs Riya vs Jake
The only person that I want to win is Jake, because he has been the most annoying character in the being of the season with Tom and Aiden drama. But, after Ashley left he became better with his personality. Ally actually became worse over the season, with Jake and hunter. Riya was always been mid in my opinion, but the drama with Conner and Alec made her 100 percent worse, and Conner I would not mind if he won but like if he stopped being a simp for Riya he would’ve been such a better character
Idk if you’ve seen this video or not but someone made a video about the meltdown that is of the Cyan team knowing that they lost all of their members of their team before the other two teams combined, it sadly made me think of Team Victory from TDWT to where they lost their whole team before everyone other team started to lose their members you know
Idk why you think ally won't go finale she's actually the only one who needs the money and Connors injured and people will hate Connor even more for being a writers pet bc of his injury and it will seem pike bias writing also ally is the underdog of the season with only 1 vote by fiore and she eliminated grett and increased het odds of winning
IM CALLING IT NOW RIYA IS GONNA WIN
Riya is currently the character NOBODY expects to win, so having Riya win would make her the most interesting winner and WOULD subvert expectations like they said they wanted to. Having a dissatisfying winner could play into Riya's guilt and cause her to snap. I'm not sure what way they will take it but I do still think Riya has the highest chance to win ASSUMING she doesn't get overpowered by someone's plot armor XD Additionally I think it's best if she wins because she has sacrificed the most to get this far. She has severely hurt Rosa (in S2) and now Connor MULTIPLE TIMES, so if she does lose it will be for nothing. Hopefully if she does win she can use the money to pay for her therapy she desperately needs.
9:49 imagine a wourd tour situation where pepole can play for advanteges tó the öné they root for
This is a fine Final 4, it’s fictional after all.
I seen worse Final 4 on Big Brother and Survivor and those are real reality tv shows. I’m not sure if many of you guys even watch reality tv shows if you want to know what real disappointment is 😂
Trevor has to win the million
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Connor
I don’t mind Connor being in the final 4 but I would like it if Ashley and/or Tess were in the final 4 too.
Saying "Is Connar the hop scotch king" was foresight fr
silly billy i love your content but honestly if connor doent win ima cry
In my opinion, Jake should win because he’s been taking all this stuff from Ally the whole season, and Ally has just been tormenting him. Ally has really let her character go. Ria is just conniving backstabbing like she always is and Connor already got voted out so my opinion, Jake should win also because he had a lot of problems and trauma and he’s just been able to overcome it so he deserves to win
Here's my opinions on this season: I was honestly so upset when Grett was eliminated, it really felt like they were setting up her and Jake to be the final 2 to me. I was really hoping it would be them too, because I feel like they're the only ones left who actually deserve it ☠️
Connor's a good guy, but he's already rich, he doesn't NEED the money. The others all have better reasons for competing, and are actually doing it for the money. His main motivation this whole season has just been Riya. Though, I feel like no one in the current 4 actually needs the money. But out of all of them, Connor is likely the one who needs it the least, and he didn't even come on the show to try and win it. So if he did, I'd be pretty disappointed. His arc can be completed without him winning, I could see him managing to get Riya voted out before he ultimately gets out.
Both Riya and Ally went way too far and got too many chances to be redeemed at this point. It isn't even fun rooting for them anymore, and it genuinely annoys me how they're still in the game. It feels like the show is dragging them out as villains, and ruining their characters in the process. Their transitions into villains both felt forced to me, especially Ally.
A villain winner would be nice, but I still want to be able to root for them. Grett was the perfect candidate for this. She was manipulative and willing to play dirty, but still had morals. Riya and Ally both endangered people multiple times, and they even nearly someone killed. Grett managed to genuinely improve as a person after her loss in season 1, worked on her insecurities and lose weight, got out of a toxic relationship and overcame her manipulative ex, and gained a lot of power in the game surprisingly fast once she was able to play how SHE wanted to. Nobody can say that Grett didn't deserve to win 😭 and it was right there for the show to use.
Honestly Jake and/or Connor are the only people that i want to see winning. I just don’t see Ally winning at all i just never really cared for her she’s a complete NPC. Riya her downfall definitely gonna be in the finale either she wins and nobody cares about her, or Trevor and Emily’s plan happens making the show bankrupt and Riya wins but doesn’t get any money from it just nothing but hatred from every contestant. So i really want to see Jake or Connor winning.
Not Riya, theres no way they'd allow repeat Finalists
I got more and more frustrated with this season, there's a lot of character assassinations from the characters first season to all-stars.
Ally had a great story going into the season but they butchered the character which just makes no sense. I think she was someone a lot of people rooted for but they really made her go on the deep end of just becoming a hateful person when it seriously wasn't needed. She could have won the season with how she was acting in the first 12 episodes and everyone would be happy. Now if she would win there's not support from many to actually say she's a good character with a few flaws but still made it work. Now it would be more like "Yeah she won but... and... but... also..." so on and so forth (you can fill the details if you want)
Jake still annoys me from the start of the season, his recent actions don't make him a good character for me. It was a whole derailment that could have been dealt with in episode 7 instead of around 14 or whenever it was. It was way too late and writing their potential winner like this is such a nightmare of a train wreck that we all don't really want to experience.
Riya... (yeah same comments as you.)
Connor is a good character but if we go back to the final 6, Grett and Alan would have been amazing winners of the season story wise, now we have Connor to be a better winner than the other 4. Which really is the bottom of the barrel of the pool of potential winners that we could have had.
I hope that if there is another season that the writers stop thinking of plot twists before actually establishing how the season will go because it really felt as if they wanted to show a lot of shock factor instead of a good story at the end and it alienates the fandom quite a lot and makes us not trust that the next series will be good. I am still going to watch it but if it has a lot of the same flaws or even new worse flaws then I am just going to back out and just do my usual stuff that I do. This isn't a series where I am super passionate with either but it was something I really enjoyed watching.
Sadly Jake is the only one that i would feel okay with Winning
I have a feeling it’s gonna be Ally, after episode 15 everyone turned on her and right now she’s the most in danger character. Let’s be fr Jake is super predictable and Riya… well I don’t see her winning and she doesn’t need to because she’s already rich anyways. Connor is a returner and is also rich so I don’t really see him winning either, especially with his broken leg. That just kinda leaves Ally who’s sort of predictable but at the same time a lot of people wouldn’t expect it. And like Jared said there may not be a protagonist winner and Ally wasn’t exactly a protagonist this season so there’s that.
Throwing the win on someone who's had little to no development might be the worst mistake ONC have done
Plus Jake is really good at challenges, so he does have a fair chance
@@sau7255 he does yes but onc hates predictable winners and Jake winning would be very boring, also I really believe that no one here in the final 4 deserves the win, there are way better characters
I still won’t get over Grett’s elimination
I want Jake to win, not because he deserves it, but because he HAS to give the money to rebuild Ashley's farm🙏🏻
With Grett “winning”, they shows wasn’t hiding the fact she was a decoy winner from the moment both Yul and Gabby left. While people do overhate on Ally sniping Grett, the counterargument is there of Grett overplayed to get caught by Ally.
You are amazing
I’m halfway through the episode and just noticed this is trevor
After knowing who goes in episode 18 I’m pretty sure I know who it is
At this point the most subversive yet sensibly realistic ending is Ally seeing the error of Riya's ways from her cruel abuse of Connor and the three of them ganging up on Riya to eliminate her in a similar way to Gwen and Owen's brigade against Heather. Then Connor would suffer the effects of his injuries/be too exhausted from his age to continue, and Ally would decide to resolve differences with Jake and play fair, maturing to not need incessant appraisal or scheme against others, and win against Jake.
5:49 literally me i had hope for her because i adored her in season 2 but they ruined her omg
maybe a spoiler idk
I am in mental pain rn after watching ep 18 like im just really sad now... it was not good
Ally is winning, trust.
yea. i think the same. i’d want Riya to win tho bc making it to the finals twice? she deserves it..
Best final 4, grett, Jake, Alec and tess
Omg no not Alec tes and jake
Especially not Alec
@@mandash4762 who’d you rather have?
@@JaxToonz I dont really know
Grett Ally, Ashley Riya
@@mandash4762 I mean the only reason I didn’t put ally on is because she is back and forth on her development, same with riya.
Ashley could’ve been used a bit better, but in all honesty the only reason she s here is because she’s a fan favourite. (Imo)
I feel like riya will get out next because her making finale two times in a row would be odd. Also if you have seen the episode dont spoil.
Alec, Tess, Ashely and Grett: It should have been us!
SPOILERS !!
I CANT BELIEVE RIYA MADE FINALS 2 TIMES GRAAAAHHH
based on episode 18, i think riya is gonna place 3rd, looking back i cant believe i didnt realise think it would be Jake vs Ally since its been one of the main drama fights between characters going on throughout the season
this is becoming a trend for an all-stars season to be awful, Total Drama had a terrible season, Disventure Camp went downhill. Is there an all-stars curse going on?
Do not look if you don't like spoilers, it's from episode 18 (without spoiling anything)
I am so sorry for your opinion, Connor got injured so o-o I watched episode 18
I want Connor to win too
Yeah this really sucks, I saw the episode too and am quite displeased
istg if Riya makes it into the final 3 im gonna be mad since she already made it to the finale last season.
she did lol
@@shavingmypiano Welp, I guess my hopes are gone.
It should’ve been Grett or Ashley.
Ashley would have been the winner in the original script lol
@@_.xandxr._4714 WHAT
Grett I agree, but Ashely is too much of a support character for me to want to see winning
ally and ig jake are the only ones I want to win
I don’t like Jake but him winning feels narratively *fine*
Rooting for Emily to win.