@@saad5590 Not really. At least "We were liars" and "They both die at the end" have been hyped up for a long time on booktube before tiktok came into the scene.
Adam Silvera is planning more content set in the universe of "They Both Die At The End", as well as developing a tv show! Red, white and royal blue is literally a comfort book, the author said "I don't give a shit about being realistic, here you get your new comfort characters"
I imagine Casey McQuiston being like "Here, a book where Donald Trump doesn't exist and the monarchy is completely eradicated of their beliefs. Also, no pandemic in 2020. Enjoy."
Red, white and royal blue is literally my go to book when I‘m feeling down. It has helped me through so many tough times over the last year, that I‘m very thankful Casey McQuiston just shot all matters of realism out the window
The Song Of Achilles made me cry more than the Peter Johnson film adaptations. Sure, I was crying for two different reasons, but that is not the point.
The song of achilles is just a work of art. The writing is BEAUTIFUL. The characters are amazing. The ending is fantastic. It is my favorite stand-alone of all time. So amazing
it isnt a stand alone,. its a retelling of the Iliad and the same author also wrote Circe which is a retelling of the odyssey , Iliad and the odyssey are two books but they are pretty much one story
@@captainstabbin5374 I’ve read her other books too- what i mean is you dont have to read the other to understand this one. Circe is in the same universe but the characters dont really overlap, so both books are essentially stand-alones
And me in the corner is just hating on this book, imo its vague, confusing and made me read less, and once a book makes me read less, I just give up on them bc its not worth it. So I did not get past the middle of the book, but I hated it
@@lifebelike5261 i didnt hate it, but i do agree with the whole it making you confused thing. I had to reread many parts of the book again to understand what it was saying. i didnt cry either
For me as a half Mexican Texan I relate to the book a lot and I care and love texas a lot so this book gave me so much hope. The escapism was needed for me.
i read it in lockdown when i was going through a bit of a crap time and i found it really helpful because of the idealism in it. it was one of those books where i could tell nothing was really going to go wrong and i absolutely fell in love with all the characters and it helped to uplift me so i think for the vibes of the book, the idealistic setting suits it but that’s just my opinion :)
I feel like the reason that They Both Die at the End focussed on Rufus and Mateo is to encourage readers of a similar age to live their lives to the fullest. It’s a “you might be healthy, but anything can happy so make the most of it”. I finished it and related heavily to Mateo (age, personality, introvert etc.) and it made me realise that I want to do more with my life
it also has to do with audience, i bawled my eyes out and gave it 5 stars while my friend was disappointed and gave it 2, it has a lot to do with life experience, at least to me
Haha, I didn't even realise it was a saucy book until Jack explicitly said that it was, I just assumed it was going to be some book analysing Jane Eyre
As a queer person of colour I will never be able to ignore the cruelty the world throws my way, but that’s why “Red, White and Royal Blue” worked so well for me as a book. It’s pure escapism. It’s great for if you just want to take a break for a while, because pondering, and experiencing a lot of the shit that happens in the world is something I do/live through on a daily basis. I don’t always want to read about bad outcomes and the crushing reality of the world we live in. So if you’re like me and you just need a break from time to time I suggest you check it out. I don’t allow myself to hope too much, but sometimes you need to be reminded that there are some things to be hopeful for. Edit: thanks for the likes🥰 wow
the author wrote in the acknowledgments that it was why they wrote the book that way - to give people hope, comfort and escapism during the trump administration
Good review. I, as many other people, (but straight) also continously experience the horror and shit in the world. We just can't seem to escape it. As much as people want to think that white and straight means you are privileged the more they are mistaken. The world is a horrible place and we are all just trying to get through it together.
@@TheSilverwing999 I appreciate the compliment, however I feel like you’re unintentionally undermining the inherent oppression queer and poc people phase. Obviously white, straight people can also have a shit time, but they’re not oppressed. You have privileges, it doesn’t mean you’re life is perfect, but it’s still going to be easier for a white and straight person to live in this world.
@@TheSilverwing999 this is why understanding intersectionality is important. Yes, straight and ethnic majority people have difficult times, especially if they are of the lower class, but it's not because of their sexuality and race/ethnicity. Poor minorities have to deal with being poor AND minority. Queer people and POC are more likely to be impoverished as well.
the whole "knowing when you'll die" thing is supposed to be in the background of they both die at the end, because it's not a story exploring that concept. it's two boys falling in love knowing that they will both die at the end. it's an AIDs metaphor. a lot of people seem to miss that
Is that a personal idea for the metaphor? I watched a video of Adam Silvera and his inspiration for the book and he said he doesn‘t like the unknown. He doesn‘t want to live with knowing when one will die but getting a heads up would help him. And he would use a Death day to resolve any problem he would have and wishes people would live their live as adventoursly as Rufus and Mateo did. Maybe I’m missing something but I think the fact that Both die at the end is in the absolut foreground of the story
Me too, I understand it was predictable but for me it was in an extremely comforting way. Kind of just reminded me to stop trying to find a reason to live and instead just wait it out because you never know what good might be coming :)
It's a beautiful way to illustrate a kind of spiritual belief that the life you experience now is the best option because of the specific challenges, lessons, and rewards it offers - particularly for folks who have maybe never thought about that before.
As someone who had fallen in love with Greek and Roman mythology through Rick Riordan when I was young, Song of Achilles was an absolute delight. We always read about the legend Achilles, but it was so much heart wrenching to read about the boy, and then the man Achilles. As for Patroclus, I have no words....I just love him so much aghhh
I read Song of Achilles after finishing PJO, HoO, ToA, MCTGOA, & KC and was starved for mythology books. Oh my god it was amazing. Bought it with my friend and it is one of my all time favorites.
While I recognize that Red White and Royal Blue is pure escapism, it was one of the best representations of bisexual discovery I've ever seen, to the point that I cried. I found myself laughing when Alex realized he had a type of guy all along or thought "how did I ever think I was straight" because I feel those same emotions all the time!
Plus to be fair it’s literally a romance! That’s kind of the exact point. They have to end with a happy ever after 😩 I think it delivers exactly what it set out to as well
YES! i love the chapter when Alex is trying figure everything out. i still remember his iconic "straight people probably don’t spend this much time convincing themselves they’re straight" bi representation is fucking amazing in this book
I''m glad The Song of Achilles is getting a sort of second wind thru tiktok, although praise for it never really dies down lol! It's the book that lives up to and even exceeds hype.
@@riri_2109 hey Jack just says is this vid that you’ll enjoy it whether you know Mythology or not because it tells you the stories in the books. Hope that helped :)
@@riri_2109 Idk what you like to read, so that’s hard to answer-BUT the writing style is very quick and the story is interesting. So (based entirely on my own biases) I think you may enjoy it!
On the other hand I fully expected to and was consistently warned that I shouldn’t read it unless I had the emotional and mental space to cope with it and went into the book while I was already really low but it took me both higher and lower and by the end I was crying on and off for the next week while my brain recapped most of the book, about 5-6 months later and I’m still not fully over Song of Achilles
I had never read any of her books, or heard of her, either, somehow. I saw my friend reading SoA and decided to borrow it from the library. I finished it at like 4 am and I was actually crying so heard. It's so amazingly beautiful, though
Alt. title “excited book person talks as fast as humanly possible at accelerating speed” Edit: I now realise I watched the video at 1.25 speed, and that he was actually talking at a normal speed, I’m sorry for my chaos
I think "They both die at the end" hit a lot harder for people around the same age as the protagonists, when I read it I was COMPLETELY destroyed by the book cause I could see so much of myself in Mateo and I still not over it. Btw im pretty sure Adam Silvera said that he was going to write more books in that universe and I'm just SUPER exited for it
I do see its appeal and why people would like it but it just did not do it for me (I read it last year when I was 14), I enjoyed about the last 50 pages tho. Maybe it's because I read Ari and Dante before that, and that's such a wonderful, heart-touching love story that it was hard to top that anyway
no cause i agree sooo much, they both die at the end destroyed me, but is my comfort book. i absolutely loved it!! when I finished it the first time, I was at the beach and I had to hide my face due to my sobbing lmao
i started laughing nervously when you said the last chapters of the song of achilles were gonna make us cry because i literally sobbed for the last 3 chapters and all night long lmao, my eyelids were so swollen i almost skipped school
It was a great read and did make me tear up but unfortunately I think the fact that I was expecting/knew the ending definitely lessened the pain/crying which is unfortunate cuz I have sobbed for books before and I wanted this to be one but it just wasn’t.
I've read a lot of books throughout the years and The Song of Achilles is the only book that has left an deep, lasting impact on my life. No book has ever touched me the way that one did. The entire story is so beautifully written and the characters are so enjoyable. It is definitely hard not to fall in love with it. The love that Achilles and Patroclus have for one another is what dreams are made of and is something that I hope to have one day (minus the sad ending)
Well the ending wasn't sad actually. SPOILER: If they were alive, they would still be suffering through wars and battles. But dead they're together and in peace! It's the most perfect ending.
Spoilers: I never expected Patroclus to die first and that By hector. I knew Achilles will kill hector knowing he will also die.. it was just so beautiful.
@@erikperhs_ but its the way they died, in the end patroclus died cuz of achilles' growing greed and the way the author describes his grief is just- heartbreaking to say the least, and the way he holds his corpse as he cries day after day without eating anything and calls out his name nonstop.. he even drags hector's corpse around as to comfort his grief
I know Red White and Royal Blue was really idealistic, but honestly, I was living for it! I just loved the main characters so much and I wanted them to be happy together, and it didn't mind me that everything worked out too perfect to be true, I was just so pleased to see my babies have their happy ever after!
The author said they wrote it to be that way too especially considering it was during the time trump was in power i believe they said they just wanted to deliver that escapism which I thought it did really well. Plus it’s a romance that’s sort of the gig, it has to deliver a happy ever after
Agreed! If you want a realistic view of the political landscape, watch the news. I loved being able to just live in Alex and Henry’s reality for a few hundred pages.
The Song of Achilles was hella good. I read the part when Patroclus talked about his memories of Achilles to Thetis, and it made me realise how important Achilles was to Patroclus and vice versa. How one man would tear down the entire world for the other, and how the other loved him so till the point he would "reject" himself and rather be made of his memories of Achilles.
The Song of Achilles BROKE me. Even though you already know what will happen and you're ready for it, it still doesn't erase the hurt you feel. Reading it made me feel like I was there and that the characters were all real people and very rarely do books make me feel that way lol. I can really feel Patroclus' emotions and that's what makes it hurt the most. 😩
I was literally the same like I knew my greek mythology somewhat, but enjoyed the story so much! It was actually few lines here and there that made me physically hit the wall cuz I knew our boi Achilles /will/ die. And then as the pages narrowed and lessened it started to hit me like oh f*ck oh f*ck we're in Troy oh no no oh no-
Madeline Miller is INCREDIBLE, i’m reading Circe currently (bc i’m too scared to read song of achilles haha) and the way she is able to make you feel such intense emotions even if you know the myths, just *chefs kiss*
The way she describes emotions, voices and scenery is chef's kiss. I could feel Patroclus' anxiety, love, sadness, and every nuanced emotion that I can't describe myself.
Circe actually wasn’t really my cup of tea. There is no particular reason why, I think I simply read it at a wrong time. And due to the song of Achilles my expectations where very high so it was easy to be disapointed.
The Midnight Library has a special place in my heart. As someone who was going through something very similar, from ending things right down to what happened to Volts, it wasn't triggering as much as it was cathartic.
Wow in my case was the contrary, i had to stop reading it because it was pretty triggering, but i guess it wasn't the right time to read it, maybe in the future
"I could recognize him by touch alone, by smell; I would know him blind, by the way his breaths came and his feet struck the earth. I would know him in death, at the end of the world." I know half this book by memory. The Song of Achilles is my favorite stand alone book, and it's probably one of my mom's and my brother's top 10. Knowing the Illead and how it ends, will never prepare you for that moment, because "What has Hector ever done to me?" Hurts like a goddamn btch.
I finished the song of Achilles a night ago and when I tell you no book has ever destroyed me this way, I'm not kidding. You'd think it would hurt less knowing your greek mythology, but nope. Nooope. I may never recover.
@@thediaryofafallenstar right?? thank god i read it at night and could literally sob myself to sleep cause i could NOT have functioned after finishing it
timestamp; Intro - 0:00 We were liars - 2:26 They both die at the end - 3:52 The Midnight Library - 6:12 The song of Achilles - 8:00 Red, White & Royal Blue - 9:29
“They both die at the end” sounds like a nightmare device for people with anxiety, myself included. Love the video, hate the fact I now know that concept exists 😂
@@aanya5577 omg same! i read it last year (in one go as well!) after a couple years of not reading anything and it truly got me back into reading :) I loved that book
Dude thanks for letting us know. I was literally just about to read it and i have 2 weeks left to my final exam...I guess I will go back to studying :”)
Dude, The Song of Achilles made me cry like a baby. Honestly, when I finished it I was bawling my eyes out so hard that my fiancée had to comfort me lmao 💀
As a Greek I was kinda nervous to read the song of Achilles cuz I thought it'd be as if I was in school learning about mythology all over again BUT NO IT'S SO GOOD.
It's amazing. I agree with him, I sobbed like a baby. I went into it knowing the mythology intimately, and knowing EXACTLY what was going to happen, and I still sobbed.
I finished The Song of Achilles on a long train ride and cried like a baby, even with all the people all around me. It absolutely did not matter that I knew how the story would end, it's just that kind of book
What a coincidence, I read it in a long train ride too! After completing the book I went up to an upper berth and cried silently for hours...And you know the worst part, it was a two day ride and I read 'A thousand splendid suns' on the night. Talk about depressing! 💀
I’m one of the people who loves The Midnight Library. I agree the ending is predictable and cliche but I love following Nora’s journey to finding her life purpose! It’s also one of my fave tropes ever.
“This book will rip your heart into tiny pieces and you will enjoy every damn second of it” This is the most accurate description of song of Achilles I’ve ever heard. But I think it’s worth mentioning that you will probably not recover from the experience. With that being said, even if you’ve read the Iliad a million times, go read this book. The agony is worth it
Read the silence of the girls too. It's a retelling of the events of the Illiad from Briseis's perspective. Totally kills the image of Achilles the Song of Achilles creates but is worth it.
i absolutely love that book! I ended up not enjoying the Song of Achilles as much as everyone because i read silence of the girls before. Tainted my point of view and ended up not liking what they did with Briseis (even though i'm all for cutting out sexual abuse from a story)
i clicked on just to hear your review of the song of achilles, because that book was perfect in every way possible. its the retelling of, dare i say, the most famous greek story of all time and it doesn't spoil anything for you. if anything, knowing the ending just adds to the beauty of the book because it just makes the foreshadowing that much more effective and heartbreaking. every time i read "what has hector ever done to me?" i wanted to rip my hair out and drag my own body behind a chariot around troy three times.
Even I've clicked for the same reason i read this book last year and also feel the same when Patro die i remembered that line of Achilles “what has hactor ever done to me?”
i honestly love rw&rb because of that exact reason. it’s my comfort book, whenever i feel sad or have a bad week or day i just pick it up and re read it to make myself feel better, it’s very idealistic and for that it’s just my escape from the outside world
exactly! it's also really interesting because the author addresses that in the afterward (at least in my copy) and says she wrote it after the 2016 presidential election when she was trying to create a fictional world to escape in where there was a female president and a queer kid and so much love
Song of Achilles made me cry so hard, and as one who studies a bit of ancient greek, and therefore knew what happened, it still pulled on my emotions! Also a definite 6* from me
I read They Both Die at the End at a manic pace. I thought the story was told perfectly. Just the right amount of drama that didn’t seem too far fetched for most of the book. With these characters not being exactly as exiting as “My husband just left on an all day flight and I never got to say goodbye” actually made, in my humble opinion, the story far more intimate and heartwarming (or crushing, you pick).
Definitely crushing, I cried for a solid 20 minutes after reading it. But it was so good 😭. I also paused this video when he was doing his review of it because it reminded me that I had the book but hadn’t read it yet so I actually JUST got finished reading it.
I read the book while playing Achilles Come Down on repeat AND IT BROKE ME😭. Because after that 'thing' happen i imagine Patroclus singing it to suicidal/sacrificial Achilles
We were liars was honestly pretty good stylistically and symbolically! The author did a really good job at expressing PTSD and dissociative amnesia associated with a major traumatic event! I thought it was brilliant!
The Midnight Library really spoke to me. I love how digestible the writing is, and it is one of my all time favorites! Totally understand that it may come across of oversimplified. Red, White, and Royal Blue is one that I completely loved while reading and with some hindsight lost some of it's shine because of that over-the-top idealism. But it was such a magnificent escape read in the moment! I somehow don't have Song of Achilles on my to read list but after this video it is there now! Awesome video, Jack. Love your stuff!
Omg I completely agree with 'They both die at the end" such a good concept, kinda underwhelming execution. I feel like a book with a title like that should make you cry and I did not cry, and don't get me wrong, I'm usually a crier.
i think it could’ve been so good if there was any tension between the characters before they got together. there was not. was disappointed. still cried.
i read we were liars while sitting on the stairs of my grandmothers house. by the end of it, i had tears and snot running down my face and my grandmother was patting me on the shoulder and i was on the phone with my mom telling her “that’s not how it was supposed to go.” a book hasn’t messed me up like that since all the bright places.
achilles said, "bring him back to me!" and my fragile little heart tingled in bliss. then as the story continues i was all "what the h-" with tears in my cheeks till the last page PS. Circe was great too. I just finished reading it. The story mentioned Trojan war, Achilles and Patroclus, and that's the closure I needed lol
🚨SPOLIER ALERT 🚨 I did not cry at patroclus' death, I was hurt ofc and started crying from the next page to the end. It's amazing really how ppl break down even knowing the story before picking up the book
Hey! I'm reading the e-book of Song of achilles these days and I feel like I'm missing some pages..so can u tell me the page count of the printed book please!
I had read the Illiad way back when I was in highschool but The song of Achilles just DESTROYED me anyway. Like, I knew how it ended, but it still killed me!
@@froggarolli-Stolitz I loved it! It does have explicit moments. Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe is LGBT and Young Adult. If you're interest in YA, you'll love it! One of my favorite YA books. I was engaged in the book so much that I finished under a week and if I didn't take a break, I would've finished it in one sitting.
for me sour's lyricism is quite literal, it is still very beautiful and goes straight into your heart but like i dont think it has lots of symbolism and stuff, idk how to explain because english isnt my first language, it's just isnt as abstract??
@@happy4821 there isn't a lot of symbolism, mostly straight emotions, which is why the songs are beautiful, however that doesn't leave a lot to be analyzed compared to albums like Harry Styles', tswift etc. jack can, however, tell us which songs he likes tho ahahha
there's going to come a point... where jack's terrible puns and tiktok phrase references are going to drive me to an early grave and i don't know if i'll be angry about it
girl the song of achilles is my all time favorite book i literally take a copy everywhere and read little bits when i have nothing else to do...this has resulted in a few public breakdowns
The Midnight Library made me value my life more❤️ As someone who suffered from depression and has been experiencing anxiety attacks. I was pretty open about the ideas because I'm already in the healing stage, and I do agree that it may be triggering for others! Anyways, great book.
your review of song of achilles made me soso happy:)) I read it 2 summers ago and have yet to find a book that has tugged my heart the way that this did. very evident that the 10 years it took to write it were well used... it was heartbreaking but heartwarming at the same time ugh couldn’t recommend it enough I cried for DAYS!!
I was so underwhelmed with We Were Liars... cause i PREDICTED THE TWIST in the first 100 pages 🥺 On the other hand, The Song of Achilles is stellar! Despite being knowledgeable about the story of Achilles, still I was hoooked and heartbroken. It still haunts me until this day.
same! i’m surprised so many were so amazed with the plot twist because i felt like there were some clues scattered throughout and it wasn’t that shocking of a twist either
The Song Of Achilles is one of my all time favorite books. I'm a huge greek myth nerd so what's not to love about it? Subtext adapted into text is the best thing ever, especially when it's an old ass story.
Does the book accurately depict greek mythology and is the story basically a retelling of myths or is it rather just based on greek myths? Wanna read it but I have a pretty slim knowledge about greek mythology.
@@anastasianicolaenco4476 I’d say it pretty accurately depicts Greek legends. It’s not a retelling, just a story following Achilles and Patroclus. You really don’t need to know much about Greek legends and gods/goddesses to understand it.
@@anastasianicolaenco4476 I knew nothing about Greek mythology when I started reading it and I just finished it and omg you HAVE to read it pleaasseeee it’s so good
Whenever I have the chance, whenever it comes up, I take the time out of my day to say that Madeline Miller is a wonderful, talented, brilliant artist.
But also take the time to say that she's also severely entitled and acts as though her work is equal or even better than that of ancient Greek authors whose work she claims to be "fixing" (by adding misogyny and lots of assault and r*pe as a plot device all the while demonizing all female characters but for the ones that suit her). It's alright to love her literary skills, it's not so okay to turn a blind eye to all her problematic aspects and her severe appropriation.
@@mmekh2244 its pretty much a foregone conclusion that there will be NO getting over this freaking book lmao. i read it everytime i want to bawl my eyes out
I read The Song of Achilles a few years ago and absolutely loved it! I would also highly recommend reading Madeline Miller's other greek mythology themed book, Circe. Her writing style is so beautiful it completely absorbs me into the story.
The book “They Both Die At The End” was an amazing read. I think the reason I describe it as amazing is because of the way I came across the book. I was on Amazon one day putting a specific book in my cart when the title caught my eye. I immediately placed it in my cart because I wanted to challenge the author’s boldness. I believed that the author took away the feelings a reader would experience associated with mourning the death of the characters who would in fact die at the end. However, I was very wrong. The fact that I thought they would die made me want to cling on to the hope that the title was metaphorical, which in turn crushed me even more. I read the book before the hype on tiktok so my expectations were very low. This is definitely a book best read with little to no knowledge about the genre or the plot.
For me, the romance at the end felt very rushed. I understand but at the same time it was t my favorite. I liked how all the characters connected to each other though.
I fully agree with this. My expectations were low when I read it and I also went in thinking "how will this be interesting if I already know the ending" but still ended up sobbing at the end. Glad to see I'm not the only one
Will you ever make a video about six of crows? that's the book I see most on booktok like it's literally EVERYWHERE (also, song of achilles and midnight library supremacy)
"The only more productive person than Matt Haig is Taylor Swift" i mean you're not wrong she released 4 albums in 1,5 years and secretly filmed a motion picture 😭
Mild spoilers: ok ok so people in the replies the ending is tragic and deppressing but satisfactory and the two main characters have a good ending. Except when you think abt the fact that if greek mythology wasn't real than they both died sadly and never reunited, but then again the whole story is greek mythology and revolves around greek myhtology so it's fine bc if greek mythology didn't exist than neither would half of their story so
Honestly I already knew their story but it got me anyways. The whole "wow im so silly we will see each other again at night, tomorrow, and after that so we can talk later" but there's no later :,) Homero who? This is the real version of Iliad y'all
I was hoping that you'd read the more fantasy reccomends from tiktok like city of brass, blood and ash, acator series ect. Because I've never really seen you read fantasy or YA fantasy in particular so I hope you give it a chance
Absolutely, totally agree about how great "The Song of Achilles" is (cried like a baby myself too), and how didactic "The Midnight Library" is. Spot on, great review!
I think They Both Die at the End worked because of the simplicity of it, like, realistically as an 19 year old, if I got told it was my last day alive I wouldn't do much beside crying and probably lying in bed listening to music. But I also think they could've done like mini stories on people who got the call, so we can see a variety of experiences.
![[American Pie] They Both Die At The End - Mateo & Rufus - Animatic Story Summary](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9P9XXAoFBq4/mqdefault.jpg)
the joke about booktok is that they say "underrated books" and then mention popular books
RIGHT LMFAO
someone needs to tell them the definition of underrated.
Maybe they popularise them ?
@@saad5590 Not really. At least "We were liars" and "They both die at the end" have been hyped up for a long time on booktube before tiktok came into the scene.
@@biblionerd sorry I wasn't aware of that
“If this is The SONG of Achilles, I wanna join the choir-“
Honestly, I’ve never related to anything more in life than this.
One of the best jokes I've ever heard except the punchline is real lmao
Yes! Perfectly said!
Lol i actually just came Home from choir
same, when i die bury my ashes with this f book
him : "if this is THE SONG of achillies, i wanna join the choir".
me : *aggressively subscribes*
SAME AHAHHA
This comment is so cute. 🥺🥺
Lmao
"If music be the food of love, then play on"
MOOD
"We were liars" was supposed to be just a lemonade summer book. Did not expect to bawl my eyes out at the beach at 11 am.
That’s how I was with “they both die at the end!” I was legit on a resort in Mexico balling my eyes out at the pool 😭
@@randomuserig2663 It does hit you harder when you're having a good time...
@@domino6866 I agree😭
No fr nobody told me it was going to be sad and i just sat there crying LMFAOO
yooo i just finished it a few hours ago and i’m broken. like i feel the grief irl
Adam Silvera is planning more content set in the universe of "They Both Die At The End", as well as developing a tv show! Red, white and royal blue is literally a comfort book, the author said "I don't give a shit about being realistic, here you get your new comfort characters"
I imagine Casey McQuiston being like "Here, a book where Donald Trump doesn't exist and the monarchy is completely eradicated of their beliefs. Also, no pandemic in 2020. Enjoy."
@@josetieneoro AND I LOVE HER FOR THAT LORDT
Red, white and royal blue is literally my go to book when I‘m feeling down. It has helped me through so many tough times over the last year, that I‘m very thankful Casey McQuiston just shot all matters of realism out the window
Yes 😂😂
Exactly
you should make a video of you reading wattpad for 24 hours/ reading popular wattpad fanfics
omg yes please 😂
OH GOD THAT WOULD BE HELL AHAHHA idk if ur a harry styles fan but a rly famous fanfic about him is called duplicity and well.... its a rollercoaster
Forget wattpad, ao3 its better!
Poor him 😭😂
it would be very repetative
The Song Of Achilles made me cry more than the Peter Johnson film adaptations. Sure, I was crying for two different reasons, but that is not the point.
Omg 😭😭😭
ohmygods, I feel you
Lmaooo
you had me in the first half ngl BUT THIS LMAO
Greek mythology and dps pic and name…sweetie I love you❣️
The song of achilles is just a work of art. The writing is BEAUTIFUL. The characters are amazing. The ending is fantastic. It is my favorite stand-alone of all time. So amazing
it isnt a stand alone,. its a retelling of the Iliad and the same author also wrote Circe which is a retelling of the odyssey , Iliad and the odyssey are two books but they are pretty much one story
@@captainstabbin5374 I’ve read her other books too- what i mean is you dont have to read the other to understand this one. Circe is in the same universe but the characters dont really overlap, so both books are essentially stand-alones
I will recommend you to read young & beautiful by velvetoscar, it's truly a masterpiece
And me in the corner is just hating on this book, imo its vague, confusing and made me read less, and once a book makes me read less, I just give up on them bc its not worth it. So I did not get past the middle of the book, but I hated it
@@lifebelike5261 i didnt hate it, but i do agree with the whole it making you confused thing. I had to reread many parts of the book again to understand what it was saying. i didnt cry either
Red, white and royal blue was written to be the “perfect idealistic world” so I guess it delivers on that front.
It’s the best book I’ve ever read no 🧢
For me as a half Mexican Texan I relate to the book a lot and I care and love texas a lot so this book gave me so much hope. The escapism was needed for me.
i read it in lockdown when i was going through a bit of a crap time and i found it really helpful because of the idealism in it. it was one of those books where i could tell nothing was really going to go wrong and i absolutely fell in love with all the characters and it helped to uplift me so i think for the vibes of the book, the idealistic setting suits it but that’s just my opinion :)
lmao a bit repetitive tho but yep it’s a great read
I read it instead of revising for my maths GCSE in the library in the 6 hours before my exam🗿 not worth it
I’m a simple girl, I see Song of Achilles, I start sobbing and *then* I click
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Mood
Me
Same but for “they both die at the end” haha. I wanna read song of Achilles too
SAMEE
Jack’s the only one I would trust on a book recommendation
Same tho
sameee
Same :)
Oh my, agree, he’s so accurate
Yessss
I feel like the reason that They Both Die at the End focussed on Rufus and Mateo is to encourage readers of a similar age to live their lives to the fullest. It’s a “you might be healthy, but anything can happy so make the most of it”. I finished it and related heavily to Mateo (age, personality, introvert etc.) and it made me realise that I want to do more with my life
Same
it also has to do with audience, i bawled my eyes out and gave it 5 stars while my friend was disappointed and gave it 2, it has a lot to do with life experience, at least to me
Right, it really spoke to me and I really loved the message of it
I related to Mateo too! It really hit home
Agreed
The uncomfortable jokes and puns... this is why we watch Jack
Go ahead give us everything ✨
The fact that he is able to come up with do many puns and jokes ON THE SPOT blows my mind!!!!!
@@kanakbakhru188 reading and İ mean lots of intellect reading does the work 😂😂
I don’t read booktok books, I only read classics like ✨Jane Eyre Laid Bare✨
Hahaha!
This is what they call a callback
When I tell you I CACKLED
Haha, I didn't even realise it was a saucy book until Jack explicitly said that it was, I just assumed it was going to be some book analysing Jane Eyre
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'THE ONLY PERSON MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN MATT HAIG IS TAYLOR SWIFT' ahh i died, i honestly had to pause the video and give it a thumbs up. impeccable.
it's true, taylor swift fans DO always say they "died" hahah 😂
(i'm refering to what she said on the graham norton show)
@@harleyquiinnnn " RIP I DIED DEAD"😂
True
@@d_diya29 "REST IN PEACE ME ✋🏼😔✨"
“This book will rip your heart into tiny pieces and you will enjoy every damn second of it.” FACTS.
Frrr
As a queer person of colour I will never be able to ignore the cruelty the world throws my way, but that’s why “Red, White and Royal Blue” worked so well for me as a book. It’s pure escapism. It’s great for if you just want to take a break for a while, because pondering, and experiencing a lot of the shit that happens in the world is something I do/live through on a daily basis. I don’t always want to read about bad outcomes and the crushing reality of the world we live in. So if you’re like me and you just need a break from time to time I suggest you check it out. I don’t allow myself to hope too much, but sometimes you need to be reminded that there are some things to be hopeful for.
Edit: thanks for the likes🥰 wow
the author wrote in the acknowledgments that it was why they wrote the book that way - to give people hope, comfort and escapism during the trump administration
@@dorian6970 yeah it really delivered on the intended purpose :)
Good review. I, as many other people, (but straight) also continously experience the horror and shit in the world. We just can't seem to escape it.
As much as people want to think that white and straight means you are privileged the more they are mistaken. The world is a horrible place and we are all just trying to get through it together.
@@TheSilverwing999 I appreciate the compliment, however I feel like you’re unintentionally undermining the inherent oppression queer and poc people phase. Obviously white, straight people can also have a shit time, but they’re not oppressed. You have privileges, it doesn’t mean you’re life is perfect, but it’s still going to be easier for a white and straight person to live in this world.
@@TheSilverwing999 this is why understanding intersectionality is important. Yes, straight and ethnic majority people have difficult times, especially if they are of the lower class, but it's not because of their sexuality and race/ethnicity. Poor minorities have to deal with being poor AND minority. Queer people and POC are more likely to be impoverished as well.
the whole "knowing when you'll die" thing is supposed to be in the background of they both die at the end, because it's not a story exploring that concept. it's two boys falling in love knowing that they will both die at the end. it's an AIDs metaphor. a lot of people seem to miss that
That’s really interesting!
I really enjoyed this book but now that you've said that it's an aids metaphor that makes so much more sense.
holy shit
That's so clever
Is that a personal idea for the metaphor?
I watched a video of Adam Silvera and his inspiration for the book and he said he doesn‘t like the unknown. He doesn‘t want to live with knowing when one will die but getting a heads up would help him. And he would use a Death day to resolve any problem he would have and wishes people would live their live as adventoursly as Rufus and Mateo did.
Maybe I’m missing something but I think the fact that Both die at the end is in the absolut foreground of the story
I read "The Midnight Library" and it actually made me appreciate life so much more
Me too, I understand it was predictable but for me it was in an extremely comforting way. Kind of just reminded me to stop trying to find a reason to live and instead just wait it out because you never know what good might be coming :)
I'm halfway through. I like the concept but the writing is too simplistic for my liking. Still pretty good so far though :)
It's a beautiful way to illustrate a kind of spiritual belief that the life you experience now is the best option because of the specific challenges, lessons, and rewards it offers - particularly for folks who have maybe never thought about that before.
I think it's boring asf but everyone is entiteled for their own opinion
Bought it spontaneously bc I thought the cover looked nice. Im not trough it wasn’t disappointed yet
As someone who had fallen in love with Greek and Roman mythology through Rick Riordan when I was young, Song of Achilles was an absolute delight. We always read about the legend Achilles, but it was so much heart wrenching to read about the boy, and then the man Achilles. As for Patroclus, I have no words....I just love him so much aghhh
This books have much to do with greek mythology. And dong of achillis is garbage
I read Song of Achilles after finishing PJO, HoO, ToA, MCTGOA, & KC and was starved for mythology books. Oh my god it was amazing. Bought it with my friend and it is one of my all time favorites.
Do you have any book recs on roman and greek mythology? Thank you :)
the likes on this video are all the people who haven't _said_ jack is the charli d'amelio of youtube, but have definitely thought it
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While I recognize that Red White and Royal Blue is pure escapism, it was one of the best representations of bisexual discovery I've ever seen, to the point that I cried. I found myself laughing when Alex realized he had a type of guy all along or thought "how did I ever think I was straight" because I feel those same emotions all the time!
Plus to be fair it’s literally a romance! That’s kind of the exact point. They have to end with a happy ever after 😩 I think it delivers exactly what it set out to as well
What does "escapism" mean?
@@cherrybomb476 you avoid reality, or escape from it by all means.
The author said that they deliberately devoted an entire chapter to Alex' bi discovery bc it was so important to them
YES! i love the chapter when Alex is trying figure everything out. i still remember his iconic "straight people probably don’t spend this much time convincing themselves they’re straight"
bi representation is fucking amazing in this book
I''m glad The Song of Achilles is getting a sort of second wind thru tiktok, although praise for it never really dies down lol! It's the book that lives up to and even exceeds hype.
I have absolutely no background information on greek mythology, do you think i would enjoy it?
@@riri_2109 hey Jack just says is this vid that you’ll enjoy it whether you know Mythology or not because it tells you the stories in the books. Hope that helped :)
@@riri_2109 Idk what you like to read, so that’s hard to answer-BUT the writing style is very quick and the story is interesting. So (based entirely on my own biases) I think you may enjoy it!
I did not expect to bawl my eyes out when I read 'The Song of Achilles'. It was really an experience
On the other hand I fully expected to and was consistently warned that I shouldn’t read it unless I had the emotional and mental space to cope with it and went into the book while I was already really low but it took me both higher and lower and by the end I was crying on and off for the next week while my brain recapped most of the book, about 5-6 months later and I’m still not fully over Song of Achilles
omg I just bought that book and I think I should start reading now (since I love books and movies with sad endings haha)
I read it yesterday. It broke my heart into a million pieces. It's definitely the most beautiful book I've ever read
OH BABE ME EITHER KNOWING THEIR FATE BUT MADLINE MILLER OH GOD SHE KNOWS WHAT SHES DOING
I had never read any of her books, or heard of her, either, somehow. I saw my friend reading SoA and decided to borrow it from the library. I finished it at like 4 am and I was actually crying so heard. It's so amazingly beautiful, though
Alt. title “excited book person talks as fast as humanly possible at accelerating speed”
Edit: I now realise I watched the video at 1.25 speed, and that he was actually talking at a normal speed, I’m sorry for my chaos
He didn't talk that fast tho
@@dominiquepocopio777 look at the edit of their comment
The edit makes this comment even more hilarious
HAHAHA
I watched this in 2x speed and no trouble following his words
I think "They both die at the end" hit a lot harder for people around the same age as the protagonists, when I read it I was COMPLETELY destroyed by the book cause I could see so much of myself in Mateo and I still not over it.
Btw im pretty sure Adam Silvera said that he was going to write more books in that universe and I'm just SUPER exited for it
I love the universe - even the Instagram accounts mentioned in the book are real and have the photos described!
yes 😭😭😭 I agree with a lot of the points Jake said but the book still one of my favorites uyhuyhjhb IT’S JUST GODDAM PERFECT
@@user-dc2dz8ie1i I just loved so much read the book while seeing Rufus Instagram, it was an amazing experience
I do see its appeal and why people would like it but it just did not do it for me (I read it last year when I was 14), I enjoyed about the last 50 pages tho. Maybe it's because I read Ari and Dante before that, and that's such a wonderful, heart-touching love story that it was hard to top that anyway
no cause i agree sooo much, they both die at the end destroyed me, but is my comfort book. i absolutely loved it!!
when I finished it the first time, I was at the beach and I had to hide my face due to my sobbing lmao
i started laughing nervously when you said the last chapters of the song of achilles were gonna make us cry because i literally sobbed for the last 3 chapters and all night long lmao, my eyelids were so swollen i almost skipped school
ikr we all know how Achilles and Patroclus end but didn't expect to get this fxxked up honestly
I cried for two days every time I thought that damned book
Sameee which is why I’m getting a tattoo inspired by it 😂 Gotta stay heartbroken forever
It was a great read and did make me tear up but unfortunately I think the fact that I was expecting/knew the ending definitely lessened the pain/crying which is unfortunate cuz I have sobbed for books before and I wanted this to be one but it just wasn’t.
Sameeeeeeeeeeeee, I was furiously crying
I've read a lot of books throughout the years and The Song of Achilles is the only book that has left an deep, lasting impact on my life. No book has ever touched me the way that one did. The entire story is so beautifully written and the characters are so enjoyable. It is definitely hard not to fall in love with it. The love that Achilles and Patroclus have for one another is what dreams are made of and is something that I hope to have one day (minus the sad ending)
Well the ending wasn't sad actually. SPOILER:
If they were alive, they would still be suffering through wars and battles. But dead they're together and in peace! It's the most perfect ending.
@@erikperhs_ agree with you!!! But it still hurts 😭
Spoilers: I never expected Patroclus to die first and that By hector. I knew Achilles will kill hector knowing he will also die.. it was just so beautiful.
@@erikperhs_ but its the way they died, in the end patroclus died cuz of achilles' growing greed and the way the author describes his grief is just- heartbreaking to say the least, and the way he holds his corpse as he cries day after day without eating anything and calls out his name nonstop.. he even drags hector's corpse around as to comfort his grief
@@hannahbananaloll330 How do you guys call spoilers actions that occur in an epic 2800 years ago? Miller didn't come up with it 💀
✨Timestamps✨
2:29 We Were Liars
3:53 They Both Die At The End
6:13 The Midnight Library
8:00 The Song of Achilles
9:29 Red, White & Royal Blue
Thank you sm 😫💗💗
thank u 💓
Ooo thx
Thanks! ❤️❤️
"If you ever see him fighting with a grisly bear, help the bear"
Yes, will be using this as a description of Achilles from now on.
this and
'are you a top or a bottom'
'I'm a threat'
this reminds me of the chuck norris jokes 😂😂
I know Red White and Royal Blue was really idealistic, but honestly, I was living for it! I just loved the main characters so much and I wanted them to be happy together, and it didn't mind me that everything worked out too perfect to be true, I was just so pleased to see my babies have their happy ever after!
The author said they wrote it to be that way too especially considering it was during the time trump was in power i believe they said they just wanted to deliver that escapism which I thought it did really well. Plus it’s a romance that’s sort of the gig, it has to deliver a happy ever after
Agreed! If you want a realistic view of the political landscape, watch the news. I loved being able to just live in Alex and Henry’s reality for a few hundred pages.
The Song of Achilles was hella good. I read the part when Patroclus talked about his memories of Achilles to Thetis, and it made me realise how important Achilles was to Patroclus and vice versa. How one man would tear down the entire world for the other, and how the other loved him so till the point he would "reject" himself and rather be made of his memories of Achilles.
The Song of Achilles BROKE me. Even though you already know what will happen and you're ready for it, it still doesn't erase the hurt you feel. Reading it made me feel like I was there and that the characters were all real people and very rarely do books make me feel that way lol. I can really feel Patroclus' emotions and that's what makes it hurt the most. 😩
I was literally the same like I knew my greek mythology somewhat, but enjoyed the story so much! It was actually few lines here and there that made me physically hit the wall cuz I knew our boi Achilles /will/ die. And then as the pages narrowed and lessened it started to hit me like oh f*ck oh f*ck we're in Troy oh no no oh no-
Madeline Miller is INCREDIBLE, i’m reading Circe currently (bc i’m too scared to read song of achilles haha) and the way she is able to make you feel such intense emotions even if you know the myths, just *chefs kiss*
@@katemartin113 Circes is really good too!
The way she describes emotions, voices and scenery is chef's kiss. I could feel Patroclus' anxiety, love, sadness, and every nuanced emotion that I can't describe myself.
* me trying to take a print of the book cover *
Jack's hands:➡️↘️⬇️↙️⬅️↖️↕️
the names are in the description!
Omg I love Emily The Strange
@@nandinidiwan7829 uwu☺☺ great taste
If you liked Song Of Achilles, you will LOVE Circe by the same author. Another book which will rip your heart out and you'll say " thank you" :)
I haven't read Achilles yet BUT CIRCE OMG!!! I still sob after years
I loved Circe but hated Song of Achilles 😩😩😩
@@isaactan5320 I didn't like it when I first read it, but I cried like crazy when I gave it a second chance
I loved both Circe and The Song of Achilles, they’re both my favourite books 👌
Circe actually wasn’t really my cup of tea. There is no particular reason why, I think I simply read it at a wrong time. And due to the song of Achilles my expectations where very high so it was easy to be disapointed.
The Midnight Library has a special place in my heart. As someone who was going through something very similar, from ending things right down to what happened to Volts, it wasn't triggering as much as it was cathartic.
Wow in my case was the contrary, i had to stop reading it because it was pretty triggering, but i guess it wasn't the right time to read it, maybe in the future
@@joana5978 same here
I had that same experience and it is genuinely one of my favorite books of all time.
I was thinking of reading but I was wondering if there is any romance or not . I don't really read romance books
@@milkaddiction513 theres close to no romance in the book tbh
My review of the song of Achilles consisted of me describing how I bawled for 40 minutes straight. I then recommended it to every person I know.
Only 40?!
just 40?? it's been a couple of weeks and I'm still crying /j
same tho
40 minutes? gurl, that book ✨T R A U M A T I Z E D✨ me 😍
"I could recognize him by touch alone, by smell; I would know him blind, by the way his breaths came and his feet struck the earth. I would know him in death, at the end of the world."
I know half this book by memory.
The Song of Achilles is my favorite stand alone book, and it's probably one of my mom's and my brother's top 10. Knowing the Illead and how it ends, will never prepare you for that moment, because "What has Hector ever done to me?" Hurts like a goddamn btch.
Oh god yes! That line. It got me everytime
“What has hector ever done to me?” AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP MY HEART
You didn’t have to make me cry. This quote gets me every time.
@@mjwest4968 my absolute favorite line.
@@ainhoaaron3960 im not sorry, if I had to suffer then so do you
I finished the song of Achilles a night ago and when I tell you no book has ever destroyed me this way, I'm not kidding. You'd think it would hurt less knowing your greek mythology, but nope. Nooope. I may never recover.
Right?! After I finished reading it, I laid in bed for at least 30 minutes contemplating life 😭😂💀
@@thediaryofafallenstar right?? thank god i read it at night and could literally sob myself to sleep cause i could NOT have functioned after finishing it
I haven't read that one, but it's been recommended to me a lot because of A Little Life, which I love, so you may want to pick that up next!
@@Emma-of2jk same! i stayed up till i think about 2 am and we all know how the early mornings are the best time to have midlife crisis’ 😃✋
@@joyfacedown A Little Life? i’ve never heard of it! i’ll have to check it out!
timestamp;
Intro - 0:00
We were liars - 2:26
They both die at the end - 3:52
The Midnight Library - 6:12
The song of Achilles - 8:00
Red, White & Royal Blue - 9:29
THANK YOU!
thank you!!
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YOU THE BEST BABY😩
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“They both die at the end” sounds like a nightmare device for people with anxiety, myself included. Love the video, hate the fact I now know that concept exists 😂
it’s sooo good tho! you should read it
@@maanyadewan1497 I literally read that in one go even tho it's being 2-3 years since I have read something. It was a good book tho
@@aanya5577 omg same! i read it last year (in one go as well!) after a couple years of not reading anything and it truly got me back into reading :) I loved that book
yeah I'd prolly die right after getting the call not being able to breath
@@maanyadewan1497 Me too! Even tho I kind of felt like it was boring in between but it got interesting near the end :)
If I was in the world of “They both die at the end” I’d be prank calling all my enemies just saying “You’re going to die today” and hanging up
i’m pretty sure it was mentioned in the book that the call had a special ringtone
Pls- 💀
@@kathatesthis1422 and that prank calling people like that can get you into some serious trouble
Gods song of achillies was so painfull, i decided to read it during my exam week as a “stress reliever” worst and best mistake of my life
@@nura319 straight up gave me depression, im still not over it smh and i cry everytime my friends play achillies calm down (they dont read SOA)
Dude thanks for letting us know. I was literally just about to read it and i have 2 weeks left to my final exam...I guess I will go back to studying :”)
@@alaaaaa11234 ive saved a life!!!! also when you read keep a box of tissue close especially in the last 3 chapters
STRESS RELIEVER? Rip 🪦
i feel like i’m the only one who didn’t cry on this and now i’m concerned for myself
Dude, The Song of Achilles made me cry like a baby. Honestly, when I finished it I was bawling my eyes out so hard that my fiancée had to comfort me lmao 💀
As a Greek I was kinda nervous to read the song of Achilles cuz I thought it'd be as if I was in school learning about mythology all over again BUT NO IT'S SO GOOD.
It’s soooooooo good I can’t even-
@@user-nl4fp4iv8y I know right masterpiece 🤧
idk why but “as a greek” is absolutely sending me
Ohh hello, as a fellow Greek it is indeed hella good!
So cool that in greek you learn about greek mythology, very interesting history topic omg
When he raved about "The Song of Achilles" for the third time in a video, I knew I had to put it in my book cart 📖
YOU SHOULD, IT'S SO SO SO GOOD
I SWEAR YOU WON’T REGRET IT 😭
It's amazing. I agree with him, I sobbed like a baby. I went into it knowing the mythology intimately, and knowing EXACTLY what was going to happen, and I still sobbed.
its literally the best book i've ever read
I finished The Song of Achilles on a long train ride and cried like a baby, even with all the people all around me. It absolutely did not matter that I knew how the story would end, it's just that kind of book
What a coincidence, I read it in a long train ride too! After completing the book I went up to an upper berth and cried silently for hours...And you know the worst part, it was a two day ride and I read 'A thousand splendid suns' on the night. Talk about depressing! 💀
@@Trippin_tales9 oh god😂
I’m one of the people who loves The Midnight Library. I agree the ending is predictable and cliche but I love following Nora’s journey to finding her life purpose! It’s also one of my fave tropes ever.
“This book will rip your heart into tiny pieces and you will enjoy every damn second of it”
This is the most accurate description of song of Achilles I’ve ever heard. But I think it’s worth mentioning that you will probably not recover from the experience. With that being said, even if you’ve read the Iliad a million times, go read this book. The agony is worth it
i spend 23 out of the 24 hours in a day thinking about this book and the other hour crying about it. i don’t think i’ll ever recover
Honestly this is one of those books you never truly get over
"call me Peter pan, because i was 'captin hocked' "
- Jack Edward's precious words on how to compliment a good book✨
Right like this is my quote for the year
The coolest part was getting to your comment and reading it in perfect time to him saying it in the video.
@@sarahrosen4985 that happens alot when i read Jack's comments too!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@AikiraBeats I agree I agree I agree
Read the silence of the girls too. It's a retelling of the events of the Illiad from Briseis's perspective. Totally kills the image of Achilles the Song of Achilles creates but is worth it.
Adding it to my TBR right now
i absolutely love that book! I ended up not enjoying the Song of Achilles as much as everyone because i read silence of the girls before. Tainted my point of view and ended up not liking what they did with Briseis (even though i'm all for cutting out sexual abuse from a story)
Yes! It’s so so good!
I’m 14 and thinking about reading this book, but I heard it has some adult subjects. Should I read it?
@@devotion803 Probably not 😅
i clicked on just to hear your review of the song of achilles, because that book was perfect in every way possible. its the retelling of, dare i say, the most famous greek story of all time and it doesn't spoil anything for you. if anything, knowing the ending just adds to the beauty of the book because it just makes the foreshadowing that much more effective and heartbreaking. every time i read "what has hector ever done to me?" i wanted to rip my hair out and drag my own body behind a chariot around troy three times.
Even I've clicked for the same reason i read this book last year and also feel the same when Patro die i remembered that line of Achilles “what has hactor ever done to me?”
"the only person more productive than matt haig, is taylor swift" I'm totally here for swiftie jack
i honestly love rw&rb because of that exact reason. it’s my comfort book, whenever i feel sad or have a bad week or day i just pick it up and re read it to make myself feel better, it’s very idealistic and for that it’s just my escape from the outside world
exactly! it's also really interesting because the author addresses that in the afterward (at least in my copy) and says she wrote it after the 2016 presidential election when she was trying to create a fictional world to escape in where there was a female president and a queer kid and so much love
age rating?
Song of Achilles made me cry so hard, and as one who studies a bit of ancient greek, and therefore knew what happened, it still pulled on my emotions! Also a definite 6* from me
Splendid
I read They Both Die at the End at a manic pace. I thought the story was told perfectly. Just the right amount of drama that didn’t seem too far fetched for most of the book. With these characters not being exactly as exiting as “My husband just left on an all day flight and I never got to say goodbye” actually made, in my humble opinion, the story far more intimate and heartwarming (or crushing, you pick).
Definitely crushing, I cried for a solid 20 minutes after reading it. But it was so good 😭. I also paused this video when he was doing his review of it because it reminded me that I had the book but hadn’t read it yet so I actually JUST got finished reading it.
Idea: reading books that are banned in certain areas
Wait certain books are banned in certain areas! Never knew….
Oooh yess
Lots of books are banned in china
Hey I think he did a poll about what topic he should do next and this one won in a landslide
Yes i hear the 48 laws of power is banned in certian countries
Okay, it took me a WHILE to get over Song of Achilles but here we go again
*plays Achilles come down*
omg not achilles come down😭😭
Achilles come down was on repeat for WEEKS after i finished it last year
I read the book while playing Achilles Come Down on repeat AND IT BROKE ME😭. Because after that 'thing' happen i imagine Patroclus singing it to suicidal/sacrificial Achilles
It BROKE me, it's so beautiful
NO PLEASE
We were liars was honestly pretty good stylistically and symbolically! The author did a really good job at expressing PTSD and dissociative amnesia associated with a major traumatic event! I thought it was brilliant!
I thought the same!!!
The Midnight Library really spoke to me. I love how digestible the writing is, and it is one of my all time favorites! Totally understand that it may come across of oversimplified. Red, White, and Royal Blue is one that I completely loved while reading and with some hindsight lost some of it's shine because of that over-the-top idealism. But it was such a magnificent escape read in the moment!
I somehow don't have Song of Achilles on my to read list but after this video it is there now! Awesome video, Jack. Love your stuff!
"To celebrate the fact that we just hit 500k"
Mans already on 563k
564k now 😂
I was thinking the same as well!
now 565k
566k now 🥰
@@varnikamanral2184 how is this going up so fast? He deserves it though honesty
"Im less wap and more nap."
- Jack Edwards ,23 May 2021
But tbh relatable
Right
Waitthis was posted today 0.0
This is real poetry
I felt that-
Omg I completely agree with 'They both die at the end" such a good concept, kinda underwhelming execution. I feel like a book with a title like that should make you cry and I did not cry, and don't get me wrong, I'm usually a crier.
I totally agree but i really cried a LOT at the end… maybe I‘m too emotional for this haha
That book's title should be
"They both die at the end.
And i died too."
i think it could’ve been so good if there was any tension between the characters before they got together. there was not. was disappointed. still cried.
EXACTLY ME
I did actually shed a tear and im not a cryer when reading
i read we were liars while sitting on the stairs of my grandmothers house. by the end of it, i had tears and snot running down my face and my grandmother was patting me on the shoulder and i was on the phone with my mom telling her “that’s not how it was supposed to go.” a book hasn’t messed me up like that since all the bright places.
you're definitely the charli d'amelio of booktube.
Is that a compliment or insult?
@@wonderlust1308 compliment because he's the most popular booktuber
@@ronja.85 Oh so you meant just by popularity, okay lol. Because with popularity aside I was like: um... chile... lol
he’s actually got talent unlike that annoying tik tok chick
* sees Red, White and Royal Blue *
I'm not ready to hear any opinions on my ultimate comfort book. I'm scared
Please make a reading vlog of Haruki Murakami's books and ranking them.
omg yes please I just bought the wind up bird chronicle because of harry styles
This is such a good idea!!! I really want to get into Murakami but he has so many highly reviewed books it's hard to know where to start lol
Omg what a great idea!
Yeessss please!
Norwegian Wood was poignant and beautiful. Won't hurt to start with that!
achilles said, "bring him back to me!" and my fragile little heart tingled in bliss. then as the story continues i was all "what the h-" with tears in my cheeks till the last page
PS. Circe was great too. I just finished reading it. The story mentioned Trojan war, Achilles and Patroclus, and that's the closure I needed lol
🚨SPOLIER ALERT 🚨
I did not cry at patroclus' death, I was hurt ofc and started crying from the next page to the end. It's amazing really how ppl break down even knowing the story before picking up the book
Hey! I'm reading the e-book of Song of achilles these days and I feel like I'm missing some pages..so can u tell me the page count of the printed book please!
@@zenara4841 284 pages, I read it in ebook too by the way
@@Laerdna oh okay! Thankss
I had read the Illiad way back when I was in highschool but The song of Achilles just DESTROYED me anyway. Like, I knew how it ended, but it still killed me!
*dante and aristotle discover the secrets of the universe* was a huge hit a few years ago
I finished it yesterday and I miss it already
@@gizcasva4716 was it good?? I really wanna read it.
@@froggarolli-Stolitz I loved it! It does have explicit moments. Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe is LGBT and Young Adult. If you're interest in YA, you'll love it! One of my favorite YA books. I was engaged in the book so much that I finished under a week and if I didn't take a break, I would've finished it in one sitting.
@@froggarolli-Stolitz it’s so good 🥺💗
I found it pretty emotionless tbh
We need Jack to analyze "Sour" ' s lyricism asap.
YES
YES YES YES
for me sour's lyricism is quite literal, it is still very beautiful and goes straight into your heart but like i dont think it has lots of symbolism and stuff, idk how to explain because english isnt my first language, it's just isnt as abstract??
OMG YES
@@happy4821 there isn't a lot of symbolism, mostly straight emotions, which is why the songs are beautiful, however that doesn't leave a lot to be analyzed compared to albums like Harry Styles', tswift etc.
jack can, however, tell us which songs he likes tho ahahha
there's going to come a point... where jack's terrible puns and tiktok phrase references are going to drive me to an early grave and i don't know if i'll be angry about it
Love how everyone is in love with song of Achilles .
girl the song of achilles is my all time favorite book i literally take a copy everywhere and read little bits when i have nothing else to do...this has resulted in a few public breakdowns
Day 2341 of asking Jack to read & do a video on Latin American literature (and not just Hispanic)
YES PLEASE
YESSSSSSS!!!! Please!!!!
We latin americans have a lot of good stuff, i support this one.
if he reads Machado de Assis i might get emotional
OMG YESSS, he should totally read something by Isabel Allende or Garcia Marquez *chef's kiss*
Jack praising 'The Song of Achilles' is something I'll never get tired of.
The Midnight Library made me value my life more❤️ As someone who suffered from depression and has been experiencing anxiety attacks. I was pretty open about the ideas because I'm already in the healing stage, and I do agree that it may be triggering for others! Anyways, great book.
I cried for like 4 hours straight after reading the song of Achilles. My parents were so worried lol
we were liars is my absolute fave and seeing it getting all this love and attention brings me so much joy 😭
your review of song of achilles made me soso happy:)) I read it 2 summers ago and have yet to find a book that has tugged my heart the way that this did. very evident that the 10 years it took to write it were well used... it was heartbreaking but heartwarming at the same
time ugh couldn’t recommend it enough I cried for DAYS!!
I was so underwhelmed with We Were Liars... cause i PREDICTED THE TWIST in the first 100 pages 🥺 On the other hand, The Song of Achilles is stellar! Despite being knowledgeable about the story of Achilles, still I was hoooked and heartbroken. It still haunts me until this day.
YES SAME... the song of achiles DESTROYED me and I'm not entirely over it.. but woah it was beautiful
I DID TOO! The page right before the twist, I guessed it and i was so disappointed
we were liars is soooo baddd. The main character is so pretentious and out of touch, only good character was Gat
same! i’m surprised so many were so amazed with the plot twist because i felt like there were some clues scattered throughout and it wasn’t that shocking of a twist either
SAMW i figured the twist out and thought that oh surely that isnt it AND IT WAS but still loved it sm!!
As someone who hates reading, I want to read literally everything you like
Hate reading? 🥺
@@DeeRafatSweileh I'm sorry!
Bestie we need to talk
If you hate reading, then why are you here
@@ririschannelx I like listening to people talk about books!
The Song Of Achilles is one of my all time favorite books. I'm a huge greek myth nerd so what's not to love about it? Subtext adapted into text is the best thing ever, especially when it's an old ass story.
Does the book accurately depict greek mythology and is the story basically a retelling of myths or is it rather just based on greek myths? Wanna read it but I have a pretty slim knowledge about greek mythology.
@@anastasianicolaenco4476 I’d say it pretty accurately depicts Greek legends. It’s not a retelling, just a story following Achilles and Patroclus. You really don’t need to know much about Greek legends and gods/goddesses to understand it.
@@anastasianicolaenco4476 I knew nothing about Greek mythology when I started reading it and I just finished it and omg you HAVE to read it pleaasseeee it’s so good
@@Cuentainutilizada2 IM IN THE MIDDLE OF READING IT NOW ACTUALLY ITS SO COOL
@@anastasianicolaenco4476 OMG YES AAAAAAAAAAHHHH YOU JUST MADE ME SO HAPPY IM SO GLAD
Can we appreciate how Jack does little jokes in every single situation? (Addison reating, Charli dami-NO...)
Whenever I have the chance, whenever it comes up, I take the time out of my day to say that Madeline Miller is a wonderful, talented, brilliant artist.
But also take the time to say that she's also severely entitled and acts as though her work is equal or even better than that of ancient Greek authors whose work she claims to be "fixing" (by adding misogyny and lots of assault and r*pe as a plot device all the while demonizing all female characters but for the ones that suit her). It's alright to love her literary skills, it's not so okay to turn a blind eye to all her problematic aspects and her severe appropriation.
‘People always refer to me as the Charli D’Amelio of UA-cam’ I’m dead 💀🤣
Who is Charli D’Amelio?
@@thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 Jack Edwards of tiktok
@@thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 you are the one who survived
@@1111ish perhaps 🤔
@@intinesuntdoipinguini4825 take all my money you absolute legend
i think Jack is one of the most subtle flexers on UA-cam, like he wears Balenciaga and Off-White now... we see you Jack
oh my god. i just knew jack would love the song of achilles. its been two years since i've read that book and i honestly still am not able to move on
I read it a month ago. I don't think I'll ever be over it. Good lord , it's just fucking amazing.
I’m trying to find a copy, just getting back into reading and now I can’t wait to read it 😍
@@mmekh2244 its pretty much a foregone conclusion that there will be NO getting over this freaking book lmao. i read it everytime i want to bawl my eyes out
@@rachx7526 good lord. i honestly envy you. i'd give an arm and a leg just to read this book for the first time again. have fun reading 🥰
@@mmekh2244 also you should definitely read Circe by the same author. its an amazing read too
I read The Song of Achilles a few years ago and absolutely loved it! I would also highly recommend reading Madeline Miller's other greek mythology themed book, Circe. Her writing style is so beautiful it completely absorbs me into the story.
The book “They Both Die At The End” was an amazing read. I think the reason I describe it as amazing is because of the way I came across the book. I was on Amazon one day putting a specific book in my cart when the title caught my eye. I immediately placed it in my cart because I wanted to challenge the author’s boldness. I believed that the author took away the feelings a reader would experience associated with mourning the death of the characters who would in fact die at the end. However, I was very wrong. The fact that I thought they would die made me want to cling on to the hope that the title was metaphorical, which in turn crushed me even more. I read the book before the hype on tiktok so my expectations were very low. This is definitely a book best read with little to no knowledge about the genre or the plot.
Had you heard of John Dies at the End before hearing of this book? I’m feeling off about the title just because the title grab has been done before.
i remember reading the book and still hoping they're not gonna die when the name of the book was laughing at me))
For me, the romance at the end felt very rushed. I understand but at the same time it was t my favorite. I liked how all the characters connected to each other though.
I thought this book was far better than the other book Adam silvera wrote with Simon vs homosapien author. Sorry I forgot the title...
I fully agree with this. My expectations were low when I read it and I also went in thinking "how will this be interesting if I already know the ending" but still ended up sobbing at the end. Glad to see I'm not the only one
Will you ever make a video about six of crows? that's the book I see most on booktok like it's literally EVERYWHERE
(also, song of achilles and midnight library supremacy)
"Call me Peter Pan 'cause I was Captain Hooked"- Jack Ben Edwards, 2021
Oh my gosh, I legit though he said call me PIZZA PAN and I was confused 😂
@@zijing9548 LMAOO🤣🤣
"The only more productive person than Matt Haig is Taylor Swift" i mean you're not wrong she released 4 albums in 1,5 years and secretly filmed a motion picture 😭
Song of Achilles, more like me crying a whole river
Damn this kinda motivates me not to read it I dont really like tragic endings😭 But I will do it!!
@@ivanluciano3501 so, did it have a tragic ending?💀
Mild spoilers: ok ok so people in the replies the ending is tragic and deppressing but satisfactory and the two main characters have a good ending. Except when you think abt the fact that if greek mythology wasn't real than they both died sadly and never reunited, but then again the whole story is greek mythology and revolves around greek myhtology so it's fine bc if greek mythology didn't exist than neither would half of their story so
Honestly I already knew their story but it got me anyways. The whole "wow im so silly we will see each other again at night, tomorrow, and after that so we can talk later" but there's no later :,)
Homero who? This is the real version of Iliad y'all
I finised reading it. I did not cry but bloodly hurt omg atleast they already reunited again in the underworld.
"They both die at the end" had me hoping that they really won't die (characters are too precious aaaaaa!!!)
I agree 😭😭
same !!!
Song of Achilles breakes your heart in thousands of pieces but you happily let it happen.
I have absolutely no knowledge on mythology but I’m in love with The song of Achilles, it’s heartbreaking, soul crushing and amazing
I was hoping that you'd read the more fantasy reccomends from tiktok like city of brass, blood and ash, acator series ect. Because I've never really seen you read fantasy or YA fantasy in particular so I hope you give it a chance
i thought i'd maybe do a separate video on fantasy books because it's [whispers] my least favourite genre.....
@@jack_edwards oh... Well you're in for a wild ride lol
@@jack_edwards I've developed a particular skill on reading your replies with your voice.
me too, i can hear his enunciation
@@Clementine3107 same here
Absolutely, totally agree about how great "The Song of Achilles" is (cried like a baby myself too), and how didactic "The Midnight Library" is. Spot on, great review!
Can we have a sequel to 'they both die at the end' called "they all die at the end" and make it non YA and basically what you just said
I think They Both Die at the End worked because of the simplicity of it, like, realistically as an 19 year old, if I got told it was my last day alive I wouldn't do much beside crying and probably lying in bed listening to music. But I also think they could've done like mini stories on people who got the call, so we can see a variety of experiences.