Predator 3500 inverter gen 116 HR Review and mods that make it better.
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Here is the link to the wheel mod guys. Thank you for tuning in. ua-cam.com/video/2C8N-IhbwuQ/v-deo.html
That’s a vent similar to that found on a lot of chainsaws, basically from the 90’s. They usually dump into the air filter with a piece of stranded wire in the end of the hose. Stihl 029, Ms 290 & 291 utilize a similar vent circuit. My big pro saws have a vent that pushes into the gas tank.
The “screen” you removed from the rear is called a spark arrestor and is there to keep possible exhaust sparks from escaping which could ignite a fuel source such as dry grass or anything else it comes in contact with. The key is to keep it clean, NOT remove it.
John Case yes i know. If I remember correctly I believe i made a disclaimer on removing it lol. But it is too restrictive and clogs up with carbon fast. No one wants to clean it every 10 hrs lol. Just be responsible and make sure its running in a good spot with out dry debris such as sticks leafs etc.
The screen is the spark arrestor not the silencer (disk thing made of crushed copper wire). If you're running your generator on the ground or anywhere sparks might be an issue (like the bed of a truck after you modified the egr so it now dumps raw fuel out of the bottom of the generator), you need to keep the spark arrestor screen, chuck the silencer. If you're running a genturi off of the exhaust, both items must go for max venturi affect. I highly recommend a venturi stack if anyone will be sleeping near the generator( like within 200 feet, even inside an rv).. The brand Genturi is kinda pricey but you can easily make one for less than $50.00. On mine, the exhaust temps enter the stack around 200-350 degrees, (depending on the load) and the exit temps are 70-80 degrees and carry all carbon monoxide up and out above your rv. There have been people killed from carbon monoxide poisonings while tent camping near a rv running a generator.
Smith Farms the spark arrester also acts as a DB killer for most small engines all the way to side by sides.
I have this model and I luv it,, it is stationary for home emergencies,, so I do not have the charcoal canister issue,, I'm making a wheel kit for it now,,, It is made from a Honda pressure washer frame,,, I cut all the frame cross bars so that it is the same width and shortened it length wise so that the generator wheels just rest where the frame curls in the corners,, Now my generator will have wheels and foldable handles to move it in and out of the garage,,
Have run my 3500 under rv ac load all day on a Texas 110f day with no issues. Fired it up when it was 2f freezing cold as well. Have mine setup to charge my house solar batteries when it's really cloudy. Will run 13-14 hours under a 700 watt constant load.
Thank you very much brother nice tutorial top 10
You’re welcome buddy
Mine does the same thing RPM's start going up and down then it dies out. Is what happened was the son was putting fuel in it and knock the fill neck screen in to the tank. That screen also has the tank vent built in to it. So no vapors or outside air could leave or enter the tank it acted like a fuel shutoff, and would starve for fuel and die. Since I got the two tear warranty I'm just dealing with it and leaving the cap a little loose. I've got 500 hours on it so far. Done a total of 3 oil changes 1st at 8hrs with conventional oil, 2nd at 25hrs with conventional oil again, 3rd at 50hrs with Mobile1 full synthetic, and haven't changed the oil since.
I love mine its been great so far got 487 hours
You only do this modification if you’re driving. If not leave it alone. Leave a stock. This was a big confusion for most people I assume. It’s good that this is clarified. Thanks
I was really looking forward to putting the big wheels on there.
Sir William Goes its coming in a future video. Im searching for some really cool tires im not trying to stick the plain old harbor freight tires on i want som cool off road looking ones lol. Stay tuned to see what i can come up with.
@@R.N.GPerformance So the thumbnail is click bail? 😁
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They look nice, but that price is laughable!
How much if you were to DIY it?
Did mine for 25 bucks
Got one coming Monday
Patrick noone you’re going to enjoy it. Absolutely an amazing machine for the money.
@@R.N.GPerformance i wish we could get these in the UK
Great video!
Thank you 🙏
On bypassing the charcoal canister, could you just remove it and put in a one check valve commonly sold for custom gas tanks. Allows gas tank to breath yet prevents vapors from going out?
Yes you can. Just put the vent up high.
I've got this same tank vent to carbon filter to breather setup on a Predator type 338cc engine on a splitter. If it gives me grief it'll be modified too! Thanks, Pal!
You’re welcome. It shouldn’t give too much issues because the engine is staying put fuel isn’t sloshing around.
@@R.N.GPerformance True. It's not going to be running much but just warming up probably like 5 minutes or so but not flopping around but very little. The throttle was as stiff as a board when I got it so I took the breather cover off to loosen the nut a bit and got into all that mess. Cars were bad enough but now the smaller tuff has it. Mercy.
Lewie McNeely yeah its getting crazy with these little engines. I try to always delete all that stuff. The engine will run way better and last far longer with out it.
@@R.N.GPerformance All my stuff is old flathead Briggs. 2 are 85 models. California is going to strangle this whole country before it's over!
We never went to the moon. Love this video.
😂 thaks man glad you like it.
Check out my new golf cart build vids. Just released a bunch today
You are my new hero. I'll definitely check out the other videos. Been struggling to keep mine running in a compartment I built under our school bus conversion.
She keeps overheating, but I think I'm blocking the air intake.
It don’t like being in a closed space like that i noticed with mine once you do the evap delete it works like a charm for me anyways
Maybe the movement of air caused lower air pressure by the unit.
Bernouli's principle.
Very very possible.
"We're not goin' to the moon and back!"
Kent Henry 😂
has any one sent feed back to the vachinas to use a vented cap ?
Do you recommend this mod if my generator stay in the food truck while moving but never running while moving around? I would like not to do it just so I dont have any warranty issues in future.
If its not moving while running you should be fine. May I suggest at least getting a vented fuel cap. Harbor freight has a no questions asked warranty you literally take it back to them and they give you a new one.
You should see how it sustains in space flight
I took a chance and bought one on Craig's list with only 20 hours on it. Even though it had E10 stale gas, it started and ran on the rough side. Took it home and give it some TLC and 200 hours later, I ended up buying a second one from Harbor Freight when it was on special for paralleling it up for more capacity when needed. By no means it is a Honda EU3000, but it gets the job done with a few caveats. I'm not a fan of extended warranties since it is pretty much a pure profit margin for the insurance company. A good break-in marathon for the first 25 hours on a 1/3 load and hot oil changes at 8, 16, and 25 hours; pretty much it was rode hard and put away wet. If you have any issues, you'll know it before their 30 day exchange policy runs out.
As for the running rich issue and clogged spark arrestor, I switched the default #76 carburetor main jet to a #72. I notice a lot less fouling of the spark plug and spark arrestor. Other mods, I did away with the electric start switch and made it my emergency engine kill switch since the fuel cut off switch allows the engine to run to burn out the gas in the carb in the "off" position.
I'm hoping it's powerful enough to run a large reptile room in the event of a power outage. I'm pretty excited about having this rig.
@@MitchellGWhitehead How did it work out?
@@rvrandy1710 the velociraptors got loose and ate some politicians but nobody really cared.
Does your camper AC and refrigerator not run off of 12 V power every RV I have ever owned has.
No. My camper refrigerator will run off LP but that gets expensive. Ive never had a camper that har a 12v AC.
Curious about magnetic drain plugs. Who makes them? Is the Honda one similar ?
Thanks Greg
G&G SoCal get the magnet dip stick from amazon they work.
@@R.N.GPerformance 👍
I have Yamaha inverter generator, went through tank of gas in 6 hrs with ac set on 80 and refrigerator running while traveling to destination
bullnpcola ouch.
bullnpcola how many gal? These are 2gal tanks and i get way more hours then that.
I apologize if this comes off wrong but isn't 1:45pm Fri -9:30 am Sunday 42hrs n 45 min?
My gen ran crap for a while all because a bosh plug after moved to ngk all issues disappeared. I don't think bosh plugs are good for any small engine. Goog video great job brother
Thank you. I agree bosh sucks. I wont be running mine much longer with bosh in it. I have a NGK ready to go.
That screen you removed is a spark arrester that you need to clean and put back. Gas in the bed of your truck plus sparks from the exhaust, I hope you don't have a fire. Fueling while it is running.
What did we do in the old days before everyone worried about stuff like this? Its common sense. Never fuel a running engine. This engine has a huge huge muffler chances of any sparks finding their way out if the muffler is slim to NONE not to mention if your equipment isn’t running right it shouldn’t be being used. Common sense gos a long long way! You should not be using a generator unattended in any situation.
I gots one uh them I love it
Nice video... My concern is the inverter.. Is it modified sine wave or pure sine wave as some components do no operate properly and can be harmed while powered by an MSW inverter ..???
pjf they are pure sign. One of the things i looked in to first before I bought it. There is a video on UA-cam where a guy tested it and it puts out cleaner power then you’re house lol
@@R.N.GPerformance Thank you for kindness in answering my question, but I have one more.....! LOL! Where did you find the pure sine wave info as I have not been able to verify..??
pjf there was a UA-cam video i had ran across where the guy hooked it to a Oscilloscope. And there is a few forums on google. You’re welcome.
my 3500 predator stop/run/start knob is not shutting off engine when I turn it to the off position, (400 hrs ) what part replacement would you recommend? Or what fix would you recommend? Thank you
Could be the knob its self. Ot it could be the kill switch inside. Would have to figure out witch part of the system is broke.
@@R.N.GPerformance ohhh, ya I’ll have to check that. it could be something as simple as tightening the knob . Thank you for the great video and keep putting them out.
@@martymartinez4859 you’re welcome. Update me im curious as to what it is.
Question do you recommend it for Im going to try to grow a greenhouse during the Winter and I don't no if would be the best
I would go solar for that.
But yes i do recommend this generator. Awesome machine.
Question. You only make any of these modifications IF youre running the generator while driving...correct? If not which ones.
Yeah if your not driving leave it stock it will be fine.
@@R.N.GPerformance Hey thanks for getting back so quickly much appreciated
@@ko2890 you’re welcome
When my new Predator is under load the generator whines loadly. Is this normal? This is the first generator I've owned.
Joseph Immesberger no. Thats not normal. What are you loading it with?
7.6 amps
Joseph Immesberger hmm. Im not sure. I would take it back if you can.
So you added a vent line from the charcoal cannister?
Yes. I took the vent out of the Air intake for the Carburetor and moved it.
I would bet there are more than a few zip ties on the space shuttle
daniel croft lol. Possibly 😂
We never went to the moon.
I can't believe those used to be $570 and now they are $$$. Great generator for sure.
Yeah i know. Price went up. Got mine for 649 so still not bad.
@@R.N.GPerformance thank you for the mods, this weekends project 👍👍
You’re welcome. I also did the big wheels conversion
Got my mine for 500 off of Facebook market
You could take a dump in a plastic box and it would be more useful than that charcoal canister. The ones on our cars have had to be replaced for a small fortune.
ryanteter garbage for sure.
It was running crappy from bouncing around in the truck. The fuel is going into the overflow and into the canister.
Yes. That’s why we did what we did.
Please update us on fuel economy after this breather modification
I sure will. I will do a video on it real soon.
It doubles your run time.
@@rdbrooks6783 really?
Love those zippum ties!
They work winders 😂
Weird my honda runs fine no matter how i transport it, or where i use it.. i dont have to modify anything js
The hose to nowhere is probably to drain the fuel bowl before storage
Your Honda probably also don’t have a EVAP system on it either. Because if it did you would be in the same boat. Your Honda probably has a vented fuel cap. The hose to nowhere gos to the carb vent.
@@R.N.GPerformancecarb compliance 😬
You couldn't find a vented cap? Check out USplastics.com.. they have stuff like that.. and lots of other cool shit🤙
@@jredd801 literally no difference between a vent cap and the way I vented it. The only real difference is a vent cap will let moisture in. And the way i did it using the charcoal canister it wont so the fuel will last longer.
What is the Warranty status after your "Fixes"
Well considering harbor freight dont take it apart or anything it wont be voided. HF just hands you a new one. No question asked. You take yours in and say its broke they hand you a brand new one. They are literally the only company that does this.
By removing the spark arrester (the exhaust screen), the generator is no longer legal for use in National Parks.
You are correct. And that dont bother me at all because i dont like national parks. Cant have my toys 😂
Hey guys mine won’t run properly it turns off runs for about two minutes then shuts down any ideas on what’s up
Dirty carburetor?
@@R.N.GPerformance thanks for the reply bud I ended up changing the oil about an hour ago and it seems to be running fine now
@@spartachris3516 you’re welcome. Awesome. Maybe it was a fluke or something. Glad it’s running
well i just did the mods exactly like you did and now it runs like doo doo .... surges like a big dog then dies ........ 🥴 ☹ ...... what can it be? and did you have this problem ?
Hey there buddy i didn’t have that issue but a surge usually means dirty carb jet. Has it sat with fuel very long?
@@R.N.GPerformance no its brand new, I just bought it 2 days ago..... I don't know what's going on, I took out the air filter and gas was everywhere, I couldn't tell from your video but did you cap the hole on the air filter cover? I did on mine, maybe that's where I went wrong... 🤔 I'm letting it dry out tonight and will work on it tomorrow, any thoughts you may have are welcome and thanks for the quick reply 🙂
@@rvrandy1710 i think i left it open i can’t remember but either way should be fine. Wonder if you got the wrong hose?
@@R.N.GPerformancehmmm I don't know, I'll find out tomorrow,
Let me know.
Mr. Redneck--u overfilled the gas tank. Only fill it to level marked.
I never fill to the top so idk It’s been fine since my mods.
Screen got dirty because it was running rich from being in your truck. Also to be fair, that screen is required if you will use the generator in any state/national forest.
Jeremy K. It ran in my truck for like a hour. We do not travel to state forest places witch is the main reason we took it out. We like camping away from people kinda the point lol. The mods ive done this thing is running much much better smoother and even easier on fuel. No engine out if the box runs like it Truly should because of emissions. Emissions go out the window when i get my hands on things lol. A property tuned engine will run for a very very long time.
@@R.N.GPerformance not disagreeing just saying you can't remove the spark arrestor (the screen) for forest camping, which is often boondocking camping away from people. Just felt people should know that. Also running super rich for 10 minutes can clog the screen, let alone an hour. Cheers!
Jeremy K. True. But i did cover that in the video. Thanks.
My guess is that you over filled the gas tank and gas ran down the vent tube and saturated the canister with raw gas. Also, why not plug the vent hose at the tank and put a vented cap on it?
It’s because the fumes from the tank. On really hot days all that pressure gos in to the carb.
@@R.N.GPerformance I'm about to buy one tomorrow. Think i'll mod that vent before any fumes even make it to the canister.
@@maykevin5 i would for sure man.
In California you can’t change your panties without being fined. 🤣🤣👍🏽
Y would you vent ur overflow of gas into the bed of ur truck. That looks like a accident waiting to happen. Just my thought. Maybe find a vented gas cap. U might b on the right path just a different ending.
Venting the way i did is the exact same as a vented fuel cap. Not to mention the venting i did still utilizes the charcoal canister just like they intended. So the fumes are still filtered. With a vented cap moisture can get in the fuel and is Susceptible to rain. Plus my vent is right beside the carb vent that don’t run through a charcoal canister. So either way you go your still getting venting under the machine.
Seems way louder with the exhaust screen out
It’s not. We run it at camp and can’t even hear it run.
Dude is just returning text messages while we are waiting for more info in the video
traebotheskybo 😢
WHERE is the video on installing the BIG WHEELS...?!?!?
It’s coming i am doing it this week please stay tuned. I dont break promises.
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You may want to apply for a job in Predator generator engineering department, Clearly you know way more than the guys who designed this generator.
Lol
@@R.N.GPerformance I worked here for 15 years , Engineers got sort of picky when their engineering was messed with. Sure I found some mistakes but that meant a big meeting to discuss. And you better have a really well thought out Idea about what you thought was wrong. LOL Because your Job depended on it if you were going to stop a big project. ua-cam.com/video/FmmNRaKpBTI/v-deo.html
@@enriquelaroche5370 ouch im sure they dont like it.
Some of the mods he did make it easier to use and make it perform better, but they're not in compliance with rules the engineers have to follow with regard to emissions and safety. The charcoal canister is there to trap fuel vapor so it doesn't vent directly to the atmosphere.
Thats right.
I hate when my hand cramps up like that !!! Working man problems...lol
You got that right. Sucks. Mine is from holding screw drivers and wrenches all my life. Im ready to be a door greater at Walmart but i like fixing stuff too much lol.
Going to a party
I need big wheels
Paul Grimm they are coming to the channel soon. Hang tight buddy.
I try not to trust anyone that uses the term "mm-kay"
😂
Thanks ! Go check out The Potters Clay channel about "going to the moon " 🤠👍
all you had to do was clean the carb. its surging like hell
Another Taryl watcher!
Lewie McNeely love taryl.
@@R.N.GPerformance He sure can fix stuff!
Lewie McNeely sure can. Ive learned some things from him as-well. there is always something someone can learn out there lol.
@@R.N.GPerformance RIGHT! I heard a preacher say that if you won't use someone else's brain it's a good sign that you don't have one of your own!
Lewie McNeely truth.
I came for the wheel mod on the thumbnail ☹
I did the wheel mod buddy. Here is the link. Thank you for watching. ua-cam.com/video/2C8N-IhbwuQ/v-deo.html
@@R.N.GPerformance awesome, thanks. Just found your channel and subbed anyway. Keep that spark arrestor handy in case the fire marshal tries to shut you down.
@@FubarKen thanks buddy. I appreciate the subscribe. I hope you enjoy the wheel mod.
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So the thumbnail is click bait? 😁
If you see it as that. The purpose of me showing it is to get some of you to do it.
@@R.N.GPerformance I was messin' with the whiner. I am looking forward to seeing the big tire mod video.
1100wing lol ok. Me too. Its going to be a winter project i try and save videos for when its too cold out to do anything lol.
@@R.N.GPerformance ... and to see how many more whiners come out of the woodwork.
1100wing yeah but thats okay because their comments help grow channels 😂. Subscribers dont mean anything to UA-cam its views, likes and comments that UA-cam algorithm likes.
Attaboy, place that gas can Downstream from that exhaust without a spark arrestor!!!
Tell me you ain’t living life with out telling me you ain’t living life 😂. If your exhaust is throwing sparks it’s because something is wrong with your engine. Or. You have a performance engine. In this case i know my engine is running tip top shape and its not a racing engine shooting flames 🔥 i have no need to worry about sparks making it out of the exhaust. I sure wish common sense was more common these days. Instead people comment with no actual knowledge of what they are speaking about. but wait dont get mad please stay i love hearing experts in the comments section not doing anything to benefit breathing clean air rather just huffing and puffing at your keyboard to some stranger on UA-cam wasting valuable air. Good job 😂
@@R.N.GPerformance carbon buildup from the rich condition you described earlier, carbon breaks off glowing red out the exhaust.
Bad idea to make any of these modifications to this generator
Oh why is that? It’s been going strong for years ?
just get an open frame generator
Why not just replace the jet for a smaller one? Gas dripping, sparks flying. hummmmmmmmmm.
Well a few reasons. 1 that cost money and my channel is all about saving people money. 2 no engine should be set up this way. 3 if you out a jet in and get it running right in your garage then you go camping on a cooler day it may run too lean. You cant control the weather and thats going ti play a huge roll in how much the fuel vents its pressure out of the tank. This way you dont have to worry about it at all. And its still vented through the canister and then out so win win. Its done right. Its done for free. And you dont have to worry about it ever running too lean. Gas isnt going to drip anyways because its going through the canister. Also the carb is vented through the bottom you have more chance of fuel coming from that vent then you do my vent. And this machine has a huge muffler on it chances of a spark are slim to non. Plus you can make much better of a spark arrester if your that worried about it. Me on the other hand im not worried.
Have you ever thought of making your HF Predator dual fuel? Dual Fuel Carburetor LPG Conversion www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYGCATT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jnUWDb2MSD7EZ
How about adding an extended run remote fuel tank? www.pinellaspowerproducts.com/product/extended-run-time-remote-auxiliary-fuel-tank-kit-for-predator-3500-generator/
I haven't seen an actual review of either one of these products.
I had given it a thought i seen a few kits. Little expensive tho
Im doing the extended run mod also this winter.
I did get the dual fuel carburetor kit. I think it was only thirty bucks. I just haven't had the time to commit to installing it start to finish. As far as the extended run external tank, it is quite pricey. I do like the "fuel pump" aspect of it as opposed to gravity feed. I've been hoping to find someone with a less expensive alternative.
1100wing im going to use a boat fuel tank for mine.
@@R.N.GPerformance The one in the link uses a boat tank. It's the conversion from gravity feed to an actual fuel pump system that looks to be a rather involved process.
Lock your wheels. LOL
From about 6:56 you notice some problems but don't explain what they are. I watched to about 8:38 and then gave up. Explain what you are doing and why or its thumbs down.
What problems
@@R.N.GPerformance @RedNeck Garage You are pulling stuff out and mutter about problems without stating what they are. You said that's dumb and oh really and I watched about another minute or so but you didn't explain.
@@ImapatriotUSA oh
“Bosh spark plugs”? LOL
Garbage lol
do not do this folks!!!!!!!!!!!!
You say it runs rich but then you say you’re going to get more gas in it. LOL
Yeah more gas in the tank.
Dammit watched the video for the big wheels....pissed . No wheels.not gunna subscribe now. I hate being mislead.
Reo White your missing out on some good content. Your loss brother.
What a whiney baby! What are you, 12? grow up
Erika Smith unfortunately the world is full of them.
It's called "click bait". Get over it. Nearly every UA-camer uses the thumbnail to catch your attention. Pay attention to other videos you watch from now on. A lot of times the the scene in the thumbnail never appears in the video.
1100wing yeah and normally i dont click bait. I only threw that up there because it was a awesome idea. Witch i will be doing this winter so there will be a video on ot
Came for thumbnail of wheel mod.
Left greatly disappointed.
Grumpy dont be disappointed because its coming real soon.
Dont show it on the thubnail for the video if its not gunna be in the video. People get mad and feal mislead. U lose a subscriber.u lost me that way
Bye! I showed it to give yall a idea of what ya can do. You dont need me to show you how. Go buy some wheels and stickem on. Anyone who watches my channel and knows me actually knows if they hang in there long enough ill have a video up on how to do that. Im pretty sure I mentioned in the video i wanted to do it. Money dont grow on trees my man. Donate to the channel and ill have a video up tomorrow. I need loyal subscribers. God bless you!!!
@@reowhite4862 NEED SOME CHEESE WITH THAT WINE????
Just so yall know i have the wheel mod done.
I can tell that you dont.spend much time in a shop or around tools.
I can tell you know absolutely NOTHING about me or my channel 😂