Crux35 + HDZero + ExpressLRS // It Keeps Getting Better
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- The Curx35 is my favorite of the 3.5inch propped quads. Now we have another version.
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It's good to see HDZero + ELRS options.
The pool will just add an extra element of danger and may lead to a waterproofing tutorial.
Excellent Nick. Looking forward to seeing the pool.
Time to test how many of these micros are water proof!!
Perhaps some conformal coating......
I have snow here so crashes don't really put a strain on the arms, but i think the thin frame is what gives it so much agility and it's what I like about this quad and i'm gonna buy one more!
We have snow now too. Not a lot but might be a few days before it melts.
Dang, well, I mean, I was gonna get the Crux35 Analog, since I just started flying FPV and have been having a blast. I was not expecting a HD0 version this quickly, esp with ELRS in there as well. That's basically my dream kwad for staying below 250g and having a blast. Guess it's time to start looking into HD0 goggles as well. Thanks for the excellent review as always Nick.
Better off going straight to HD. I own about 8 analog fpv drones. Own 1 HD,now all I want to fly is HD.
@@stuartgrandison1 I think that's exactly what's gonna end up happening. I do enjoy analog for the flywoo baby nano and meteor75 I have currently however, the limitations are quite obvious as far as how much quality you can get out of them too, and HD0's finally hit that sweet spot for quality for me.
Nice flying! I've been thinking about getting this one. In no rush right now, so will keep it in my wish list. The combination of hd0 and Elrs are prefect in my opinion and will match the 5 inch race frame ill be putting together
Thats what my plan is too. I am looking forward to that
My DJI version has been holding up great. I did reprint all the TPU, because Happymodel’s prints were meh. I had also planned to build an HDZero version as well, but all of the US retailers sold out of frames quickly. Nice rip as always Nick!
I have the analog version. But really thinking about that DJI version. Do you have any flight footage?
@@stuartgrandison1 I do. Head on over to my channel. I have a full review, as well as I swapped the Nebula Nano v2 for the Polar nano.
Ok will do.
I fly my analogue crux35 as my warm up kwad and exploring iv crashed it many times, smashed a camera, frame is very strong considering.im about to bite the bullet and get the hdzero vrx. Been waiting for this kind if development now im in. Happymodel seems to adapt to the trends first
Happy New Year, Nick. HappyModel was first-to-market to mass-produce ELRS tx and rx. Now they are first-to-market with an ELRS and HDZero combo. Kodos. Hope BetaFPV, GEPRC, and the like would jump into the competition.
happymodel seems to be one of the most agile/quick to respond to emerging segments.
I have two of these: both analog but one of them is Express lrs and I've broken the bottom plate already in 20 flights and I've also got a motor switching on one of them which I'm hoping it's just a motor and the ESC. As a reference of experience I've been flying quadcopters for 5 years and airplanes for 3 years before that
Hello Nick, I just picked up this frame and built this out with the vista and new Nebula Pro Nano. Love it. No problems with durability so far. Weighs in at about 120 grams. I also fly it with a 650 4s.
Thank you for that information. Very valuable.
“Floating gates” Thanks for sharing 🤙🏻 thank you for all of your hard work
Editing and setting up. Happy new year! Aloha from Kauai 😎🎮🤙🏻
Hi Nick! Just received my analog one today! couldn't start better the new year!
This is exactly what I want. ELRS with HD0. I'll be getting this one
Great flying! I had wondered if trees had been removed, thanks for mentioning that! Congrats in the pool too. I hope it doesn't get any quads in it!
frame has handled several soft surface crashes. but at $18 for just the frame i am not too worried about it. but it will suck when it does happen.
Dude, you fly the hell out of those things!
Regarding your question about frame durability. I just finished a series of videos myself on the Crux 35 airframe. I actually broke one airframe at the base of the arm. That was a hard crash onto cement at a weight of 210grams with a 4S 750mah battery. I think I was just unlucky really. The other Crux 35 frame I'm flying regularly now is holding up just fine though. The only concern I had with the frame was those 25mm mounting holes which are positioned right at the base of the arms. It will be interesting to see if any other people have issues with the frame breaking at that point near the 25mm mounting holes.
I had a break in the same area with the HD from a pretty hard hit on the concrete. Not unexpected and an easy swap to a new bottom frame....if they are available. I had to wait for a shipment from China but now see them around locally. I now have a spare. Plus, I like this little guy so much that I now have two identical ones. The thing I was most concerned about was the amp rating on the ELRS version, but that hasn't been an issue so far.
@@kurtzFPV Yes I was concerned about the amp rating too and even more concerned about them using Molex plugs on the motor wires instead of soldering. I think 35Amps is a safer option. So it seems there is a weakness in the frame there near the 25mm mount hole if you crash real hard. My 2nd frame is still going strong but I haven't crashed on concrete again with it yet.
Do not worry about the childish comments just haters out there that can not do as good as your reviews .. I love them keep them coming getting the analog 35 love 3 and 3.5 drones quiet in neighborhoods
Warning: sharkbyte does NOT work wth the HDMI input of the skyzone's 02x.
That's odd... But thanks for the heads up!
@@MCsCreations Don't tell me... Fatshark says: its not our fault, its designed for farshark. Skyzone says: there's an HDCP incompatibility. Fatshark answers: this is not true.
And I'm left cold after having spend my dollars on a kit....
@@nikotttin Damn! 😕
I have heard of a few running it on skyzone 04x, not sure about 03 or 02.
@@NickBurnsFPV no luck with the 02x here. Some Rcgroups members told me the same with the 02c. What annoys me is that neither company tell anyone nor take any responsibility.
Hi Nick YEP I NEED ONE !!! LOL I have a couple of 3-1/2 &4in quads and I have been having a lot of fun flying them. Thanks again for the video and information
Well iv finally mastered it. after a month of binding im finally bound.. i think there was a conflict because i had 3 or 4 different ELrs Lua SCRIPTS on my radio. i deleted them all, pasted the new 2.0 into tools. and hey presto. im bound.
I got the analog version when it first came out and converted it to HDZero. Bellyflop crashed it pretty hard and broke the frame on the arm recently. Got a replacement frame but then found out the vtx had stopped work. Now waiting on shipping. Always waiting on shipping. FPV life 😁.
waiting on parts is the worst. Now days its especially bad.
@@NickBurnsFPV would you be willing to help me get my first semi pro free styling drone? I’m getting the crux35 but I’m learning there’s so much to each drone, I’m looking for quality video while flying and a decent range, I wanted to get the analog crux35 with express LRS with a jumper T-pro with ELRS transmitter. Will I have any problems? And will I have to change my headset if I want to get a digital crux35? I appreciate all the wonderful videos man!
@@devinlloyd6044 Video range will vary, the environment is a big variable. Cell phone towers, wifi etc don't help us with video clarity and range. Of course if we fly and have something between us and the quad the obstacle can have minimal impact or completely blank our received video. A video transmitter with more mw will deliver a more clear picture with greater range and obstacle penetration. ELRS has great control link range, this is why my response focuses on video reception. Video quality will also vary, the quality of the camera and the video system flown. From highest resolution to lowest is the dji/caddx vista, hdzero, analog. Something to consider when we are making purchases.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you! Now that I have all my gear, I’m having a real tough time learning how to bind the transmitter to the receiver. There’s a lot of lingo that I don’t fully understand yet.
@@devinlloyd6044 I do have a video or two on elrs binding. Often when we are looking for specific instructions we use the model name of the quad which gives us very limited results. With elrs there can be so many different "needs" to the binding. One specific item to be looking at is that the elrs versions should match. I say should as not with v3 out there is some compatibility between v2 or v3. My first recommended step is to look at getting the t-pro wifi up and connecting to it to see what version its on. I suggest for now running version 2.2 on the radio. With the crux35 the receiver is part of the main board, so to activate binding mode we need to plug in usb and connect the betaflight app to the crus35. Then go to the receiver page and click the bind button. This puts the rx into binding mode. Hopefully those tips will help in the research and attempts. I don't plan to make more elrs setup and binding videos as its in part the same from quad and rx.
I hope you had a good New years celebration, quiet or not. The Crux looks nice,I suspect that near motor mount would be it's weakest point. I am looking into Siyi hm30 hd fpv system . yep Another enters the market.
A pool eh, Could do reviews of subs and boats soon. Make sure to Have Extra sand after it's in. just incase you need it for settling or anything else.
Was I seeing skipped frames at various points throughout the flight? Right around the 6:30 to 7:30 time stamp I noticed the most but with UA-cam, it could be anything. Was it the fatshark dvr messing up? Anyway great review and awesome ripping, Santa brought me new Skyzone 04X and Fatshark HD antenna module, now I just need an ELRS module for my tango 2 and I’ll be ready for analog HD.
The DVR is onboard the vrx/video receiver. Yes, there is a tendency for it to have frame issue. Karl or HDZero/DiviMath is going to debug it. The Mov format has it much worse. I couldn't use a lot of footage on this and another up coming review due to me having selected the mov format. TS is better but not flawless.
Nice bud, loved that size of quad aince the Gt130.
Love it Nick! And man you would tear it up on a MultiGP track! Happy New Year!
Maybe one day I can find the time to venture to a race, hope there is an over 50 group :)
I'm ThePamPaw! Freestyle videos and lots of 3.5 inch flights! 🙌
Wow, 5min on 3.5" HD. Very very cool
Great concise coverage of options
I have a half a dozen high def gps cometographic quads including DJI and cinewhoops. I can not see the need for a racing drone that does high def videos without a three axis gimbal! Everything has a place!
Crux 35 is a great drone for the price. Durability isn't at the top of the list for the quad I crashed into power lines but I was also moving pretty fast and it broke an arm on the bottom plate the cool thing is you can buy the whole frame for 20 bucks so who cares. Back up and flying. Fast and nimble for 3.5 in highly recommend but get the elrs version you'll want it for sure
Do you know if your crux35 has the original bottom plate? My understanding is they updated the bottom plate to a v2 due to arm breaking like you have described. I don't have the v2 bottom plate to compare.
That thing ripps!
Happy new year :)
Flawless agin Nick. Happy new year !! So some waterproofing vids in the future. Lol.
very well could be. I hope to stay out of the water. It should be covered when not in use, one of my top priorities in getting a pool
Hello Nick, I know it’s an old video but today I flew my crux35hd vista for the first time. First three batteries were with no action camera and really liked how it flew. My fourth and last flight were with a caddx peanut and when I reviewed the footage the jello was evident specially at low to mid throttle. I was using the hm factory mount for insta360 go 2 that supposedly is free of jelo. Have had the same experience? Any thoughts?
Sorry. I can't speak to the performance with a peanut, I don't have one. I don't recall using an external HD camera on mine. Maybe I did in the original analog version video?
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you for the response Nick. I believe the peanut is the same as insta360 go2. I’ll look into the tune. Thanks again and happy holidays.
@@vassilis331 I think the go2 is double the weight or even more, and the go2 has an internal gyro. Peanut gets power from external source but does look like the same form factor.
@@NickBurnsFPV caddx peanut has internal battery, it’s the same product as go2, even the mounts are the same. I believe you meant the Runcam camera.
Hey. I have jello in my peanut as well but the ND filters help a lot on the Crux35.
Great review. Just waiting for the new internal ELRS radios to come out before making the switch. This quad will be my first with ELRS. Hoping the new Radio master zorro is well reviewed
yes, there should be more elrs exclusive radios coming. I am hoping they are nice. I only have one of them at the moment.
@@NickBurnsFPV Can't wait to see your reviews on some new ones soon I hope
I've got an analog version and I like it also. I bought a spare frame because I had the same concerns. However, the spare frame is on a shelf still. My main complaints are about antennas and FC pads.
Nice, good information. Thank you
Awesome that they came out with a HD zero version👍. Are they the first to do that with a bnf? My analoge version crux35 came in yesterday. I have to install the elrs on my jumper t lite first. But can tell you in the future how the frame will hold up.
Yes, I believe happymodel is first with HDZero BNF.
I got a faulty BetaFPV HX115SE toothpick yesterday. The VTX burnt out after I unplugged it and plugged it back in for like the 15th time trying to bind it and it worked well before. Gonna get this to replace it but an Frsky version bc I don’t trust BetaFPV anymore. Not even my faulty cheap electronic project kits have ever burnt out like that for literally no reason…I think the VTX I got was meant for 1S but they put it into a 2S quad or it just fried bc it overheated as those get hot af and ik heat damages electrical components. Now the FC on the thing won’t even light up, just beeps the ESCs
micro vtx get hot super hot. I keep a small fan on ALL vtx when I am setting up a quad.
look at this handsome guy! always a pleasure thanks for the review!
lol, my wife agrees :)
Wow it looks good. Love the 93 grams
Hi Nick..one question: I own a crux 35 analog ELRS version coupled with a betafpv literadio 2 SE with internal ELRS module. After few test in a wide unobstructed area I noticed my db level drops down to -80 -90 db at a range of approx 200 / 250 mt. My radio is at a power of 100 mw (max radio power admitted). Is that range normal? I expected a bit more range. I didn't dared to go further because I've read that -108 db is the limit threshold for the 2.4 ghz / 250 kbs elrs so I didn't want to risk a failsafe. Is that range normal in your opinion? Many thanks in advance if you will took the time to answer. Keep up the good work your videos are always a godsend
I have both the vista and analogue version and a heavy crash caused the dji one to break an arm just before the motor mount.
New bottom plate was £12 delivered so not a biggy, great quad though....just wish the arms were replaceable.
There aren't too many 3.5" with replacable arms - I think one of the 3.5" avant quads Nick reviewed has removable arms
yes, I believe that is correct, only the avantquads 3.5 has replaceable arms.
@@NickBurnsFPV Replaceable arms would be a nice upgrade for the crux35, massive fan of your channel BTW.👍
I broke a arm clean off right at the screw hole for the 30x30 mount… other than that by far one of my favorite quads i have!! 9-10min flights of mild freestyle on 850mha pack
Oh man. Hopefully just an unlucky break and not a serious weak spot
As always great explanation 👍 hey Nick I got my HDzero crux 35 with the frsky BNF but I noticed it does not have the VTX tables on beta flight 4.3 config ..the HDzero site says that this whoop VTX has no smart audio .. I clicked on UART 1 and checked rc tramp then I got my VTX tables. Hmmm 🤔 hope all is good like this
love your Breakfast Club shirt! HNY Nick!
Thank you. Its a fun shirt isn't it
Nick, have you tried that one with biblades to see if you can gain a couple of minutes fly time. Happy 2022!!
I haven’t yet. I don’t often shoot for flight time, I tend to need a break after a bit 😂
@@NickBurnsFPV :D
Pretty fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃
I'm really liking the way this hobby is going to!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
You were testing a GNB 650mAh battery in this video, running it high voltage charged - how has it held up over time? Has it been ok?
Thanks as always for the great videos 🥳
I wouldn't want to commit to anything just yet, my outside flying has been limited this winter. I suspect I only have 30 or so flights on those batteries at HV.
Hey Nick, have you done a review of the HD scout? I don't recall. This quad looks like an awesome winner for those looking for an HD alternative.
I haven't, are there not many reviews out?
Don't bother Nick. FS has dropped support of the product already
@@DumbThumbsFPV ouch, that isn't a good sign for the future.
@@NickBurnsFPV One question I have, is there a reason you have one taller antenna then the other?
@@ChrisParayno In a diveristy rx have one antenna vertical and other horizontal, this eliminates the null in the reception pattern, especially when flying inside up and downstairs.
Hey nick! Have you updated any of the AIO boards with ELRS SPI to a hex with elrs 2.0?
Hope this helps. ua-cam.com/video/JhgcakGkut8/v-deo.html
Not yet. I have to lag a bit behind as I have a number or quads/rx I would have to update.
Just did this and test flew yesterday with great results. Shogun emperor says changing the rates, yes rates not pids, caused him to have immediate flyaway on arming.. I have been using stock rates anyway, so did not change them. Updated my second one today and it passed the hover test with flying colors. If anyone does this, note that happymodel also has a diff file to apply following updating.
@@carlosrito thanks, got it updated! now I just need to see if I backed up the VTX table...
Let me just say I've never seen you fly like this... ever.... that's some confidence and or zero latency making your floor it?
I can say with much certainty, I suspect is mainly have such a light 3.5inch quad, the elrs could play a small role.
Nick! I was looking for a good bnf quad to do a little freestyle with.. after watching your original review of the Crux35 analog version with the spi elrs built in receiver... I used your BGNickBurns at checkout 🙃. Just waiting on that and the tx12 with a elrs 2.4ghz module to come in now. Shipping...gauhh.
Anyways one question. I do fly analog. I was wondering. If I wanted to go the hdzero route... would the vrx be compatible with any goggles with hdmi in. Or are they specifically only for the fatshark goggles?
The vrx should work with any goggle that accepts hdmi input. I have heard the skyzone 02x goggles don't work with the vrx. I can't confirm. I do have confirmation from others that skyzone 04x do work the vrx. I have attached the vrx to my tv as well. I think as long as the goggles have launched in the last year it will be compatible. Older goggles might not. Older goggles also don't have the display resolution to see the enhanced image quality of HDZero. Probably not worth buying those. I have your crux35 arrives soon and give you many fun flights.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you for clarification on the vrx. I have a pair of skyzone 03s and they aren't oled but have an hdmi in. For now I'm going to just stick with my analog life. Eventually I may upgrade to a new pair and try out the hdzero system. 👍
I'm waiting for Hdzero to come up with a micro setup, small enough for tiny whoops on 1s.
surely its just a matter of time.
Hi Nick, I have emailed HDZero but wondering if you might be able to answer, I have this quad but i have a 4:3 view in goggles? how do I get 16:9?
I believe we have to change the setting in the camera. The stick commands to get into the camera are on page 15 of the manual www.hd-zero.com/_files/ugd/967e02_164888fcc5904386a6331d68325db71b.pdf depending on the googles we might have to make an adjustment there as well.
Hi Nick, thanks for the video! Asking for a friend - is analog Crux35 still the better choice within 3.5-4" toothpick class? If not, what are the alternatives?
I do think the crux35 is better than the others in the 3.5inch category. Might be for 4inch as well. I have only flown 3-4 4inch quads. In the ones I have flown I prefer the crux35.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you very much for your answer, Nick!
Hey Nick great video as always! I am on the fence about getting the Crux35 Vista(DJI) version or HD ZERO Version ( I have both DJI Goggles 2 and HD ZERO Goggles) can you or anyone that has both please comment on which would be better performance, I am guessing HD ZERO because it would be lighter but I am not sure, anyone know? thanks in advance
Yea, when it comes to quad performance lower weight will always win. But the other aspects is latency and image quality. As we know Hdzero has low latency, and vista will be better in image quality. I don't get terribly hung up on latency, I do notice it but adjust with a few flights.
I can't find the DJI version anywhere
This is a listing, note it is titled vista which is what we commonly call dji, but its not like a mavix or phantom, no gps etc.
I feel like grandpa in the slow lane compared to you! LOL.
It seems like we like different sorts of flying. Flying fun comes in all flavors, fun is fun.
Can you please tell me how long the standoffs are?
Sorry if I missed it but was that flight on the stock tune (not including your rates)?
correct, pid tune is as shipped to me. I set my rates, mode to switches and osd. Otherwise all stock.
does the aio have an open rx and tx available for crossfire? Also does it come with any hd camera mounts like for the go 2? Thanks
Here is the manual with all the information you might need www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2021/09/11/manual-of-crux35-crux35-hd-spi-elrs-and-spi-frsky-version/
Man I’ve wanted to get into FPV for soo long. I was really considering the DJI cinewhoop but if I bought this what radio / etc do I buy!!
I use the radiomaster zorro with elrs, radiomaster has other good radios with elrs as well. We also need the vrx or goggles specifically for hdzero. Then we need batteries and a charger.
Entry level recommendation for radio & goggle is usually a Radiomaster Zorro (ELRS version) and the EV800D goggles. Will run you about $240. Best charger for your smaller needs as a new flyer would probably be the 608AC, comes with a built in power supply so it simplifies things. Batteries are at your discretion, most anything sold on FPV websites are acceptable.
Mine took a fair amount of abuse... Bottom plate finally broke between the arm & motor holes.
I wonder if that is the v1 frame. My understanding they did modify the frame and came out with a v2.
Dunno? Looks like the same one they're currently selling. But, I'll be keeping my eye open for V2.
@@tskfpv5399 the v2 frame has been out a good long while now. I think if you bought within the first 90 days of launch it would only be v1 within that time frame.
I see that yours has the same issue that mine does. I am not able to get those OSD elements to go any lower on the screen. On my Mobula 7 I can put them at the very bottom but on the Crux35 that is as low as they go.
That is correct with the HDzero version. Its this way with any quad and HDzero right now.
@@NickBurnsFPV Somehow they were able to do it on the HDZero Mobula 7 but I have been unable to replicate their sorcery on the Crux.
@@Brandon-tr7ow In my mobula 7 hdzero video there is clearly a single line gap at the bottom. Maybe there is some setting inconsistency between firmwares and cameras. I will see if Karl knows.
@@NickBurnsFPV Sorry, did not know I was logged into my other account on that last reply. I am pretty sure I did not modify anything on the stock Mobula 7 OSD. Just uploaded some flight footage from last night. I also have some flight footage from my Chimera 4LR with the TX5M.1 that is uploading now that also has the items at the bottom. Both the Mobula and the Crux were bought from your links BTW. Thanks for the great content. I love the mini drones and your channel is the place to go for them. ua-cam.com/video/PBsXXlOTtUo/v-deo.html
I actually managed to move the elements. It turns out that if you connect to the SpeedyBee app through an android device the option to change between NTSC and PAL is there which is what is needed to move those elements. Only took me 9 months to figure out. The NTSC/PAL switch was not showing in Betaflight configurator on my desktop.
How do you like the fatshark scout hd goggles?
I do like them but they don’t have many options or settings. Just plug in and go. I think the screen with hdzero looks better than my hdo2 goggles
Will it work with the HDZero goggles!?
Yes hdzero googles and vrx are compatible with hdzero vtxs
pool = floating water gates
That would certainly be a high stakes run
Very unhappy with my one as soon as I go of a certain throttle value it tumbles out the sky and have not been able to get a refund grr
oh dang. Sounds like an esc issue to me. Hopefully it will get sorted out.
looking good nick. You lost weight
Yes sir. Started cutting back in March
How the bloody hell do you get this to bind with the BetaFpv Elrs Module?. mines still in the box from a month ago
The manual has the binding procedure. At this time I would ask/check what version of elrs is on the betafpv module. If it has been upgraded to elrs 2.0 we will either have to downgrade it to version 1. or upgrade the rx to version 2. To update the rx we have to flash betaflight hex with elrs v2, take a cli backup before doing this. Also I believe we have to be at 250hz packet rate and 250mw, not certain about the mw part.
@@NickBurnsFPV Its literally doing my bloody head. Iv just got them both out the box now after seeing a few videos on here. im still stuck though
@@k1ortia How are you stuck? I understand its a binding issue. Are you suing the button on the back of the module, and the button on the receiver page of betaflight. Are you using a lua script, what is the lua set to?
@@NickBurnsFPV Not sure mate. im just not getting anywhere. Both the crux35 and Micro module have successfully upgraded to 2.0 but the lua script is not working properly on my Qx7. and still cant bind
@@k1ortia Using the lua from v2 expresslrs?
dammit my analog crux35 is in the mail 😕
hey that one is certainly fun, maybe one day you can put hdzero or vista on it, if you should chose to give it a try.
I need contacts when I fly so my hdzero still kinda looks like analog 😂🤣😂
Might need to see if you can get goggle inserts to help enjoy fpv. This company makes some of the most used and possibly best www.rho-lens.com/
So you don't run 500hz ?
I do on my custom whoops. As to review BNF I run them stock
@@NickBurnsFPV Ok just curious
Bam 1st
I'll bet I could beat you on a crochrocket.
In my backyard? :)