Thanks Christian ! I just made the update to 10.5 discovering that new Sampler after years and years of EXS relationship !! and this Deep dive is perfect !
This has really inspired me to get to grips with sampling and create my own library of sounds, or at least digitise my instruments. I can really see this opening up some new possibilities for my compositions and I know that I will enjoy experimenting with instruments and sounds that I might otherwise have my hands full with trying to record in a more traditional way. This is exciting! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience with this subject!
I never really got into exs24 but my limited time with Dave has already brought back the exploratory fun I used to have with samples. Thanks a lot for the info!
I am on Windows so I use Kontakt. I am also new to creating sampler instruments. I took a folk instrument call a Can-jo and sampled it. It did not work at all like I thought it would. But so far, I have learned a lot. This is a big help on sample instrument building. I will use some of these ideas on my Kontakt Can-jo. Once I have learned how to do this well, I will re-record the instrument and make a better version. Thanks Christian.
Fact: I have credit for being the beta tester with Emagic in the 90's that talked them into implementing the chromatic loading of samples beginning on C1 option. It took months before it happened but eventually it did.
I work on Logic X and Cubase but Logic Sampler is making me opt for LP on most of my recent projects, especially for the heavy Sound Design projects. So easy to create new sounds!!!
Hi Christian, I just stumbled across this video and as a mad fan of the old Redmatika products and now of course, this lovely beast, just wanted to say thanks. so many little user tricks in here. Also, just as an aside, given Kontakt can import EXS content, I am wondering if you have used the Logic Sampler as a bridge to the more advanced features of Kontakt? Regards, Matt
Christian, UA-cam has this new feature now where if you include timestamps in the video description, the sections are shown visually on the progress bar. Would be nice to include!
Hi I have recorded some bird sounds Now should I bring them into Logic and Zoom way in and cut each bird song the zero crossing and create a perfect seamless loop first then bring them in to he sampler to use to start to build a virtually instrument ? Or do anything just drag into the sampler ?
Awesome video! Is there any video where you talk about host vs track automation in Logic pro? Since you all use Logic a lot, I'm wondering if you guys have a work around to avoid automation conflicts in Logic with spitfire libraries instead of deleting host automation in kontakt. Thx!
I need some help. Does anyone know the name of the book Christian recommends for orchestra composing (his no.1 book). He talks about it in one of his videos but I can't find it anymore.
The Sample player in Ableton Live and Bitwig is called Sampler. Cubase has Sampler Track, FL Studio has Channel Sampler. I think all of them are easier names to understand than EXS24, what is that? What does it mean? Oh, it's a Sample player - compared to something just called Sampler is far easier to understand and explain. The only problem I have with the naming of these Samplers, as you allude to in the video, is that they aren't Samplers - they are sample playback devices. I've been looking for a computer instrument that I can record a vocal 'doh' on the fly and have mapped to keys in real-time. But hard to impliment due to the notion of it being both an audio and midi sample player on the same track. Yet I have found a few multi-track Max for Live devices that get close to this like the Granulator II. And I am in the process of making my own Max device to do exactly what I am after. I'll get there.
Good to see. Have you found any choke feature? For drum samples. Software samplers aren't samplers. They are sample players. Native Instrument didn't agree to this when I many years ago argued about the difference. Apple have the resources to make Kontakt completely obsolete but for some reason they hold back quite a bit. I really like the new interface. I would like to see a lot more advanced features as well. And I certainly would like to see a revamped file handling system where I can save a folder where ever I want including all files needed.
Drum Machine Designer has choke groups and works by ganging up Quick Samplers together. Pads have “exclusive” assignment groups. Also, Quick Sampler actUally offers a recorder for capturing samples.
Look at you, you beautiful bastard, standing there all casual in your scally cap while a miraculous sunrise envelopes you with a golden halo worthy of a God!
@@TheCrowHillCo I've seen it already! I absolutely love your daily sunrise videos. Apart from the music, I haven't seen a sunrise for nigh on three months now (the quarantine was loosened two weeks ago, but by now I've gotten used to waking up at eight), so when I get up I watch it on my iPad with a cup of coffee before I eat breakfast.
Thanks for the video! Can someone help me! I'm trying to have a group of Samples in Logic Sampler, that are only triggered when the Sustain Pedal is on. How do I find this in Sampler?
Hi Trevor Kimball, I believe it would be in group settings under Enable By Control. Sustain pedal is CC64 so set that as your control and set the values to 1-127 (basically any time the sustain pedal is suppressed by any amount)
How do you make the super fat bottom end Sine wave in Dave? As in your Quick Tip: Making Strings Samples Super Fat ua-cam.com/video/XbyHifKpSQ8/v-deo.html
Interesting that you say it doesn't feel 'Apple' but feels like 'Logic'. Logic was originally German company C-Lab's 'Notator' (on the Atari ST), then went to E-Magic, then to Apple. Maybe there are some of the original programmers still working on it...
Very interesting, they’ve taken a couple of pages out of Ableton Live’s book, with Lives’ Sampler and Simpler instruments. Both are quick and easy when you want them to be, but also have the depth to do deep sampling when you need to. Almost going away from the Kontakt or Halion approach. I bought Halion this year, before I had Live, as Halion was the “mega powerhouse sampler”. However, since getting Live, I’ve not touched Halion, it’s just overwhelming with menu after menu. Yet I’ve done more sampling than ever though with Lives’ Samplers. Quick, creative and easy beats the monolith samplers for day to day use. Looking at this update makes me wish they did Logic for Windows, I can’t see it ever happening though!
You can run ableton on a Mac, trust me as a lifelong windows and android user, Apple having designed the software and apps to run on their own hardware makes the experience and workflow leaps and bounds better than anything else. Buy an iMac or MacBook Pro and if you don’t like it, take it back. I have slowly switched over to Apple. First an iPad, then phone, and finally a year ago got an iMac and Logic. NEVER GOING BACK!. Recently I had to use my 2 year old windows touchscreen laptop and I wanted to throw it out the window. Trust me you will love a Mac.
@@CRASS2047 Very interesting, thank you! The recent updates to Live, especially the new samplers, have made me very jealous! Logic Pro is ridiculously cheap too for what it does, I mean £200 - they're practically giving it away... Tempting and I can still run Ableton Live too, you've definitely got me thinking here!
The new sampler has a lot of problems, unlike its predecessor. I will list only a few of them. After the autosampler forms a multi-velocity instrument, it creates a velocity crossfade (xfade), although I did not ask for it. Samples are stacked on top of each other. As a result, the sound has an eerie chorus effect. After that, there is no way to reset the crossfade in the new sampler, and in the good old exs24 this can be done, but after saving the new sampler here does not accept these changes. It takes a lot of time to solve this seemingly simple problem. It is also not possible to arrange samples on the keyboard indicating the interval of their location. I don’t need the program to decide for me where to place the samples. Further, if I want, for example, to save my preset later in a different format, using quickampler as a transit application, and I need quicksampler, which created the library from one file, to save each sample as a separate file. However, Quicksampler is not even able to do this. And then there are a lot of complaints about the work of this, it seemed, new application, but it has a lot of shortcomings and creates problems in the work. The only thing that pleased me here was Autoloop. This is where my enthusiasm for this new plugin ends. It is very good that I have Mainstage in my arsenal, where the old EXS24 is still installed, where I can solve all of the above, and not only problems. However, anyway, thanks for the review.
Christian, since you've ruined your elbow, have you thought about getting something like the Sony ZV-1 instead? I know it's only 8-bit, but from comparisons it seems that the colour and look can be better out of the box than any other camera, bar a"proper" production camera. We miss your walking rants!
Just go settings > voice memo > audio quality : lossless. :) there are even apps with use all three mics so you so stereo recording. I’ve not fully tried that. (For readers: Apple lossless is compresses, but as name suggests - lossless!)
I'm really curious about one thing: why are piano sample instruments focused on having all the machine, lever, and pedal, etc., noises? Those are sort of "flaws" of the piano as an instrument. Why not make an "idealized" piano instrument without these noises, and focus on the "intended" or "idealized" sound of the piano?
90s and early 00s libraries are often as you described. Nowadays seems trendy to have all the mechanical noises. Many kobtakt libraries let you adjust the amount.
Why did you take the time (or money) to type in and title the time markers for the different sections into your video project, and not at least also paste them as hotlinks in the description? :/
1:51 QUICK SAMPLING
3:19 AUTOMAPPING
10:34 PREPARING TO IMPORT
11:58 OVERVIEW
12:31 ZONE EDITOR
17:19 MAPPING EDITOR(S)
22:06 MODULATORS, MATRIX & SYNTH
Thanks Christian ! I just made the update to 10.5 discovering that new Sampler after years and years of EXS relationship !! and this Deep dive is perfect !
Incredible opening shot!
Really appreciate it!!
I love this deep dave video! Also the opening shot of this video is like Deakins worked the camera. Christian Henson, you inspire me as always.
This has really inspired me to get to grips with sampling and create my own library of sounds, or at least digitise my instruments. I can really see this opening up some new possibilities for my compositions and I know that I will enjoy experimenting with instruments and sounds that I might otherwise have my hands full with trying to record in a more traditional way. This is exciting! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience with this subject!
I love at 29:06 how the crow caw is in key and in sync with the LFO!
I never really got into exs24 but my limited time with Dave has already brought back the exploratory fun I used to have with samples. Thanks a lot for the info!
1:27... Look at that background sunrise! Wow!! seriously beautiful Scotland and pup!
I am on Windows so I use Kontakt. I am also new to creating sampler instruments. I took a folk instrument call a Can-jo and sampled it. It did not work at all like I thought it would. But so far, I have learned a lot. This is a big help on sample instrument building. I will use some of these ideas on my Kontakt Can-jo. Once I have learned how to do this well, I will re-record the instrument and make a better version. Thanks Christian.
The funny thing is, Logic has another powerful sampler inside Alchemy, with granular, spectral and additive capabilities not found in regular Sampler.
Every time I get an alert that Christian has put a new video up ..... it's like Christmas
Inspiring as always, Christian, thank you!
Fact: I have credit for being the beta tester with Emagic in the 90's that talked them into implementing the chromatic loading of samples beginning on C1 option. It took months before it happened but eventually it did.
Treasures. Thank you, Christian!
I work on Logic X and Cubase but Logic Sampler is making me opt for LP on most of my recent projects, especially for the heavy Sound Design projects. So easy to create new sounds!!!
I'm in love with the waveform view. Hopefully they'll bring that into the rest of the windows!
1:07 - I literally laughed out loud seeing the iPhone just slide into frame and hear the piano strike. 😂
Very very nice videos you make there!
Hi Christian,
I just stumbled across this video and as a mad fan of the old Redmatika products and now of course, this lovely beast, just wanted to say thanks. so many little user tricks in here.
Also, just as an aside, given Kontakt can import EXS content, I am wondering if you have used the Logic Sampler as a bridge to the more advanced features of Kontakt?
Regards,
Matt
Christian, UA-cam has this new feature now where if you include timestamps in the video description, the sections are shown visually on the progress bar. Would be nice to include!
Cinematic background in the beginning of the video!
What a tutorial!!! Thank you so much, really inspiring!
Thanks Chris! How on earth do you get release samples to work in sampler?
Everytime I see that PARENTAL ADVISORY logo, I smile...so gangsta!!!
Thank you for this Christian. Very useful.
1:20 dog looking epic af
Hi I have recorded some bird sounds
Now should I bring them into Logic and Zoom way in and cut each bird song the zero crossing and create a perfect seamless loop first then bring them in to he sampler to use to start to build a virtually instrument ?
Or do anything just drag into the sampler ?
Would I be right in thinking 'Dave' is way ahead of Kontakt now? I'm on PC so I'll never get to use it.
Awesome video! Is there any video where you talk about host vs track automation in Logic pro? Since you all use Logic a lot, I'm wondering if you guys have a work around to avoid automation conflicts in Logic with spitfire libraries instead of deleting host automation in kontakt. Thx!
What an awesome background you had at the beginning of the video! Just a weirdo rambling and ruining the view :-P
Edinburgh is an amazing place!
Counting down to today’s instalment. 😀
One downvote, from someone still salty that they can't upgrade from Logic 5.5 on their PC ;)
Great video, Christian! Thanks!
This sunset shot looks so nice! New camera? It looks so cinematic
I need some help. Does anyone know the name of the book Christian recommends for orchestra composing (his no.1 book). He talks about it in one of his videos but I can't find it anymore.
possibly adler- the study of orchestration?
@@benhoughtonmusic Thank You. It might be the one!
I've called the Quick Sampler Ron... Ron and Dave are now happily chatting away in my project template.....
The Sample player in Ableton Live and Bitwig is called Sampler. Cubase has Sampler Track, FL Studio has Channel Sampler. I think all of them are easier names to understand than EXS24, what is that? What does it mean? Oh, it's a Sample player - compared to something just called Sampler is far easier to understand and explain. The only problem I have with the naming of these Samplers, as you allude to in the video, is that they aren't Samplers - they are sample playback devices. I've been looking for a computer instrument that I can record a vocal 'doh' on the fly and have mapped to keys in real-time. But hard to impliment due to the notion of it being both an audio and midi sample player on the same track. Yet I have found a few multi-track Max for Live devices that get close to this like the Granulator II. And I am in the process of making my own Max device to do exactly what I am after. I'll get there.
Thanks @Christian - some very "Golden Moments", I should say... @1:26
Good to see.
Have you found any choke feature? For drum samples.
Software samplers aren't samplers. They are sample players. Native Instrument didn't agree to this when I many years ago argued about the difference.
Apple have the resources to make Kontakt completely obsolete but for some reason they hold back quite a bit.
I really like the new interface. I would like to see a lot more advanced features as well. And I certainly would like to see a revamped file handling system where I can save a folder where ever I want including all files needed.
Drum Machine Designer has choke groups and works by ganging up Quick Samplers together. Pads have “exclusive” assignment groups. Also, Quick Sampler actUally offers a recorder for capturing samples.
Look at you, you beautiful bastard, standing there all casual in your scally cap while a miraculous sunrise envelopes you with a golden halo worthy of a God!
I was taping the sunrise on my B cam, check out the time-lapse here!!! ua-cam.com/video/cHgG-wp9zvI/v-deo.html
@@TheCrowHillCo I've seen it already! I absolutely love your daily sunrise videos. Apart from the music, I haven't seen a sunrise for nigh on three months now (the quarantine was loosened two weeks ago, but by now I've gotten used to waking up at eight), so when I get up I watch it on my iPad with a cup of coffee before I eat breakfast.
Does the new sampler still convert AKAI files?
Thanks for the video! Can someone help me!
I'm trying to have a group of Samples in Logic Sampler, that are only triggered when the Sustain Pedal is on. How do I find this in Sampler?
Hi Trevor Kimball, I believe it would be in group settings under Enable By Control. Sustain pedal is CC64 so set that as your control and set the values to 1-127 (basically any time the sustain pedal is suppressed by any amount)
Can you do another video similar to this kind of detail: a comparison between Kontakt 6 and Apple’s Sampler group?
1:15 -> 1:30 Dog staring at the sun :)
Sorry, what were you sayin' ?
How do you make the super fat bottom end Sine wave in Dave? As in your Quick Tip: Making Strings Samples Super Fat ua-cam.com/video/XbyHifKpSQ8/v-deo.html
Interesting that you say it doesn't feel 'Apple' but feels like 'Logic'. Logic was originally German company C-Lab's 'Notator' (on the Atari ST), then went to E-Magic, then to Apple. Maybe there are some of the original programmers still working on it...
The dramatic slow zoom out of screen capture...felt like Logic was gonna grey out and a voiceover explains the now unfolding tragedy 😂
Very interesting, they’ve taken a couple of pages out of Ableton Live’s book, with Lives’ Sampler and Simpler instruments. Both are quick and easy when you want them to be, but also have the depth to do deep sampling when you need to. Almost going away from the Kontakt or Halion approach. I bought Halion this year, before I had Live, as Halion was the “mega powerhouse sampler”. However, since getting Live, I’ve not touched Halion, it’s just overwhelming with menu after menu. Yet I’ve done more sampling than ever though with Lives’ Samplers. Quick, creative and easy beats the monolith samplers for day to day use. Looking at this update makes me wish they did Logic for Windows, I can’t see it ever happening though!
You can run ableton on a Mac, trust me as a lifelong windows and android user, Apple having designed the software and apps to run on their own hardware makes the experience and workflow leaps and bounds better than anything else. Buy an iMac or MacBook Pro and if you don’t like it, take it back. I have slowly switched over to Apple. First an iPad, then phone, and finally a year ago got an iMac and Logic. NEVER GOING BACK!. Recently I had to use my 2 year old windows touchscreen laptop and I wanted to throw it out the window. Trust me you will love a Mac.
@@CRASS2047 Very interesting, thank you! The recent updates to Live, especially the new samplers, have made me very jealous! Logic Pro is ridiculously cheap too for what it does, I mean £200 - they're practically giving it away... Tempting and I can still run Ableton Live too, you've definitely got me thinking here!
Christian, you should do a podcast. You are made for podcasting.
Maybe, it could be called "EXS24 MKIII"??
The new sampler has a lot of problems, unlike its predecessor. I will list only a few of them.
After the autosampler forms a multi-velocity instrument, it creates a velocity crossfade (xfade), although I did not ask for it. Samples are stacked on top of each other. As a result, the sound has an eerie chorus effect. After that, there is no way to reset the crossfade in the new sampler, and in the good old exs24 this can be done, but after saving the new sampler here does not accept these changes. It takes a lot of time to solve this seemingly simple problem.
It is also not possible to arrange samples on the keyboard indicating the interval of their location. I don’t need the program to decide for me where to place the samples.
Further, if I want, for example, to save my preset later in a different format, using quickampler as a transit application, and I need quicksampler, which created the library from one file, to save each sample as a separate file. However, Quicksampler is not even able to do this.
And then there are a lot of complaints about the work of this, it seemed, new application, but it has a lot of shortcomings and creates problems in the work. The only thing that pleased me here was Autoloop. This is where my enthusiasm for this new plugin ends. It is very good that I have Mainstage in my arsenal, where the old EXS24 is still installed, where I can solve all of the above, and not only problems.
However, anyway, thanks for the review.
Of course if you really want instant gratification, nothing beats the "sample track" in Cubase (added I'd guess since you stopped using Cubase).
By imitating everything in Kontakt, they've managed to make a sampler that's almost, but not quite, as good as Kontakt. Impressive.
Still people like you ! Funny ! PC better than Apple Blabla !!
@@TheChiversBeatCompany What? Kontakt is cross-platform. You can put it in any DAW on either Mac or PC.
Christian, since you've ruined your elbow, have you thought about getting something like the Sony ZV-1 instead? I know it's only 8-bit, but from comparisons it seems that the colour and look can be better out of the box than any other camera, bar a"proper" production camera. We miss your walking rants!
Is Logic better than Cubase. Cubase seems really expensive...
Long live DAVE!
Sort of reminds me of FL Studio's Edison sample editor.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 you can set iPhone audio to full AIFF/wav
Peter Nicholls that I happily record full 4K on my phone whilst never considering that they had a better res audio is somewhat embarrassing!!!
Just go settings > voice memo > audio quality : lossless. :) there are even apps with use all three mics so you so stereo recording. I’ve not fully tried that. (For readers: Apple lossless is compresses, but as name suggests - lossless!)
I'm really curious about one thing: why are piano sample instruments focused on having all the machine, lever, and pedal, etc., noises? Those are sort of "flaws" of the piano as an instrument. Why not make an "idealized" piano instrument without these noises, and focus on the "intended" or "idealized" sound of the piano?
90s and early 00s libraries are often as you described. Nowadays seems trendy to have all the mechanical noises. Many kobtakt libraries let you adjust the amount.
Wrong voice recording i am dying laughing. we are hate those files don't we. secretly holding them for our self perceived brilliance of the moment
Whats the name of your doggos ??
Oscar is the Blue Roan, Bee is the ginger working Cocker.
It's not Dave, it's RODNEY.
No.... the quick Sampler is Rodney.
@@TheCrowHillCo I'm sure there's a joke in there about Trigger(s)...!
Sublime sunrise, I suppose... :O
Pretty nice piano from an iphone recording.
Why did you take the time (or money) to type in and title the time markers for the different sections into your video project, and not at least also paste them as hotlinks in the description? :/
Hahaha... exsMK3
I really love you Christian, and enjoy your occasional wry pretentiousness - but please never describe a three-part video series as a “triptych” 😅😅