It does not matter to me if your in a tournament or not if you see me fishing from the bank with a couple rods tossed out the you should show me some etiquette
im only 26 years old, but i remember fishing when i was young with my dad and everyone seemed so much more respectful. I thought bass anglers were the gentlemen of the fishing world. Seems nowadays a lot of the angling world is full of selfish ego driven anglers.
Hey Randy I completely with you 100%!! For lack of a nicer way to say it, there’s some flat out inconsiderate PRICKS out there that need to be humbled.
Absolutely! I'm a kayak angler and it gets pretty bad sometimes and there's always that one or two boater's that are just insane and will jump right in front of me and takeover the stretch of bank I was working
@@altg5708 Nope but with the jet skies, cruser boats wake boats, and fisherman it sucked all the fun out of it. Can't site fish because shore line is muddied up and can't live scope because the coves are used by skiers and main channel is barge traffic and cabin cruisers.
@@altg5708tbh this guy has a point absolute worst thing is pleasure boaters up and down the lake and then up and down the lake. I don’t own the water but damn that’s so annoying and I can’t blame the guy.
When I kayak fish I notice more of a problem with tournament fisherman trying to force me off a spot than when I'm in my Triton. When my wife is in her kayak fishing with me they tend not to force us off our spot. Thus, they know they're being jerks when it's me fishing solo.
I've fished for over 49 years and I have watched the kayak tournament series and I just don't get it to uncomfortable and you got to sit in the same position all day doesn't sound like any fun to me at all?
To add to your list, with the amount of tournament anglers with little to no regard for fish that they carry around in live wells, running no wake zones, and have no regard for any other boaters on the water or their occupants, it is absolutely no surprise to me. A large proportion of tournament anglers are a plague on lakes IMO.
That's because the youth that got into this sport had no father figure growing up to teach them Boat / fishing etiquette.. most of the youth got into boating / fishing when covid lock downs started .. so they went out & bought $70k boats & started fishing with Noone to guide them .. to the youth it's about looking cool on UA-cam... they don't care about the sport nor etiquette
@@adamsnelson4689 It’s not the youth!! Most of the knuckleheads I run into acting like an idiot are seniors just like me. They think that because they’ve been fishing on the lake for so long that they’re special. The ones that think that they “Own” a brush pile are complete door knobs!
Yes!!! When I was young I thought that was what bass fishing WAS... I didn't like tournament anglers to be honest... not my normal circle of people. Loud... sitting around the ramp smoking cigarettes, etc. I fish when and where I want and don't fish in the cold and rain just because I paid an entry fee 3 months ago... once you let the pro angler dream die and go back to hanging drywall... you will enjoy fishing more!
Absolutely. When I was in my late teens, through my twenties, I wouldn't hardly fish, unless there was money on it! I wound up getting out of bass fishing all together when it got to where I couldn't afford all the nice boat and gear that I thought you had to have. Many years past, and about 5 years ago, (I'm 50 now), I decided if I was ever gonna bass gush again I better do it now. Bought a 98' ranger, and started back fishing for the challenge. Me against the bass, the conditions, the lake. I have enjoyed it more in the last few years, than I ever did tournament fishing. Now, I just complain about the weekend tournament anglers, flying around, all stressed out. I just fish. I win every time I go!
I agree 100%. I have had that happen to me so many times in the past. I quit fishing on the weekends due to boat traffic here in south central Florida. I fish during the week and don't have that problem anymore. If I do go to one of my favorite spots and another boat is there, I just keep going to another area. I show that respect and am getting it in return.
I've noticed that all the tournament guys are genuinely really good people, super nice and considerate. UNTIL it's tournament day. Then they loose their collective minds.
@@altg5708 Why are you making cracks at the guy, I like fishing in solitude too, and I'm not a "poor little orchid." If you weren't hiding safely in mommy's basement, you wouldn't run your mouth
I agree with you Randy.. I hope this video gets blasted all over Social Media.. this video should be sent to all of the Bass Clubs in the United States.
Years ago, g got cut off on a small N. PA. Lake @ 6am....2-3 boats on the lake..20 -30 feet away. 😊😊😊..got revenge..turned around and went back to isolated Lilly pads with my son..previously fished w/o success.. wacky rig..post spawn...he caught 15 - 20 4+ lb bass that morning while I put my rod down and kept him in position for the next cast..will never forget it 😊. Thanks Ps. He was 15 and is still hooked!!!! Would never gone back and re-fished if not gotten rudely cut off... Best morning of fishing ever!!
@@alanbesing3693 Sorry I think he Complains to much, but I think his fishing tips are Great, I'm the same age as he is, things change the World moves on.
I never heard anyone verbalize those do-nots. It is just common sense and courtesy to your fellow fisherman/fisherwoman. The rudeness extends to our roads and even the aisles of our grocery stores. I can only control how I behave and like you said. Not let it take up space in my head.
I was a Co-Angler in the Toyota Series on Grand you're spot on with video! Absolute idiots!! I was fortunate to draw etiquette minded Pros both days! But we watched and spoke on the same thing as it we watched it happen. Smh.. See you at LOZ May 4th!
Chris Johnson , a great buddy and angler . He won the bass master national... check out his pics ... old school . Ranger , sponsor vest and tackle box . You don’t need new
The TX Orgs are to blame for the A hole factor. They are only concerned with filling up the event with as many boats as possible. They need to have regional training classes on the do's and don'ts before accepting an application to entry. imo
Hi Randy. It's a shame what some anglers do. I'm just a local angler here in Ohio, and on the local level tournaments are silly. Some guys don't hesitate to tell ya to FO, when ya call them out, and just takes the fun out of competition. I just don't need the aggravation.
I learned a lot of Ethics and (un written rules) back in the 90's when fishing tournaments...I still practice them today. And you know following them I always was paid back later by others that I treated with respect and for being a Great Sportsman...And a comment on FFS the Professional Anglers from the 1980's thru 2000's became great because of going thru a "Learning Curve" which boils down to Two factors (Experience And Time) Which was an investment and commitment of years developing there craft. Now FFS blows a Hole thru that Learning Curve and instant success is Attained...No more years of learning...The only learning curve is to learn to cast to fish on a screen...Powering these Graphs with noise canceling cables and dedicated lithium batteries to obtain the clearest Ultrasound real time underwater view on there display unit.
IIRC, there's this thing called Rule of Responsibility in boating. I have seen boaters do some crazy stuff that defies that & even break the law. Some of those folks would be speeding even near kayakers when they are to yield to such ones (this includes sailboats, larger ships & freighters) since they have less control over their vessel. Plus, I see people being negligent where they get stuck on sandbars & similar places. At times they have to call a boat tow to get them out. These people are tempting fate at times.
This is a normal occurrence on Grand. It’s been horrible the last couple of years. I fear that those that fish High School type tournaments are led in the wrong direction by their boat captains.
Randy with all due respect, it seams that if things are not Randys way it’s no good. I understand your item 1 regarding driving. However your talking Pro Fishing and driving fast in an open lake area is the choice of the owner operator. I’ve ridden with many top pros as a Marshall and they drive how they drive. Pushing limits is about winning. Safety is important always, but an open lake is owners decision.
Lets not forget the idiots who will move their boats right down the bank into a space where someone is fishing off the bank as well. Great Video Randy !
This is a REALLY hot button for me in a little different way. I'm a bank fisherman and the lack of etiquette of boat fishermen is astounding! I was fishing from the bank in a spot just the other day and these boat fishermen come trolling right through my casting zone without a word! And I know they knew I was there because I heard them say "there's a guy fishing on the bank." I could've easily cast my lure right into their boat. I finally said, "Hey. You're running right through my casting zone." His response...."Oh...ok" and sped up to get by me faster. Talk about being oblivious to others. Probably drives a car the same way. Anyway, that's my rant for the day.
I fished a team tournament on Saturday and we were on a bank where we just pulled up on and within 2-3 minutes another boat came by us and sat down within less than 100’ in front of us. It’s sad what it’s become.
Simple solution, ban fishing tournaments. Bass fishing clowns have zero consideration for local fishermen and shoreline residents, but they want everyone around them to be considerate. Cracks me up! Get a job!
Yeah I quit fishing my local bass club as a non boater. These guys go out buy a $20k bass boat and have no idea what they're doing. Not putting my life in their hands anymore.
I have read many of the comments about this video.I have been complaining about rude and unmannerly fishermen for years. It seems many fishermen feel the same way. Why isn't anything being done about it.
Randy, you finally made a video that was not a rant about FFS and the funny is I have to agree with you on this one. Fishing etiquette has been in decline for years and getting worse every year. Unfortunately since most boaters are not faced with any repercussions I don't see this changing anytime soon. In my opinion these are the kind of videos you should be making instead of beating a dead horse on the whole FFS. Hopefully since I agree with you on this video you will leave my post up and not delete, but if you do that is ok too.
Actually I had it happen today but a lot worse than what all you described. I was fishing on Chickamauga and ran out of main river to a slough mouth. While running in I noticed a guy fishing the right side point. Keep in mind he was close to the point and heading on into the slough. I thought that was perfect because I wanted to fish the left point any way. I was probably a cast and a half away from dry ground. I actually caught one on the second or third cast and needed another rubber bait. Guess what happens as I am digging another bait out. Yep! That guy immediately high speed trolls over in between me and the bank and simply starts fishing. OMG! I was so pissed but didn’t say anything. Depending on my mood if I blow up or hold it in and let it go. I kinda regret not eating his butt out after he got gone.
I agree Randy. I fish co-angler for fun and I bring a full faced helmet and I can barely hold on I weigh 250 pounds and have to hold on for my life at all takeoffs. It’s kinda fun but to be honest it’s unsafe as hell and if a fish and game officer was motivated he could write all the tickets they want in a tournament take off.
I will say that if its not a v haul the trim up can make it a smoother ride. I have a bass tracker without that v haul and unless its really bad and i need good control of the boat ill trim up to raise the front end of the boat so its not banging on the water over and over. I think a lot of fisherman do this. It also reduces the likelihood of water coming over the front.
I had a co angler yell at me one time. It was funny afterwards. We were flying up the river channel, trimmed out, getting it. And my co angler was setting there with his head down, when a jet ski came flying out of a slough right in front of me. I didnt have time to trim down before hitting his wake, and my bow went straight up, and started tail walking for a second. The whole time i was pushing down on the trim. When the boat leveled out, i just got back on the throttle. I could see my co angler starring a hole through me. I finally looked over at him, and he yelled, "dont ever do that with me again!' i started laughing, and slowed to a stop. I explained what happened and he apologized, then we both got a laugh out of it. Truth is, alot if times we run WOT because we can. Not because someone is gonna be on our hole. I know how nerve racking it is riding with someone that throws caution to the wind. I dont tournament fish anymore, but i always keep in mind the guy setting next ti me. If hes death gripping the OH CRAP handlle, ill slow down and take it easier. Fishing is supposed to be fun.
Etiquette? Damn. It’s gone!! Same lack of etiquette happening at boat ramps. And it’s not just tournament anglers. It’s crazy! Where I fish at Duck River in Cullman Alabama, it’s awful. Plus folks parking in handicap parking spots who aren’t handicapped!! That’s low down as whale shit!!
Not just bass boats Randy! I was 20’ off the bank fishing the bank and I had a 20’ pontoon at full speed pass between me and the bank. I about got thrown out of the boat.
The new guys are ruthless. Especially on offshore tournaments. They'll pull in, hit the waypoint and leave. Don't care if they get cursed out. They got the hole. It's sad.
Be careful cCsff goes to headwaters, fellsemere, FL. Lot of idiots there. I've never seen so many dumbies. One guy drove right at me. Coming right next to my boat then gets stuck. I'm yelling it's shallow. Waving my hands to slow up. Some of the corners around tall weeds people come ripping around at high speed. Had a guy pull back on me in his 75k bass boat almost 90 degrees straight up he was going to fast. Then he pulled the throttle. To zero.
There's a difference in safety and common courtesy as a crappie fisherman as many know in the early spring there might be as many as 20 boats or more in an area trolling around getting along catching fish having a good time, then in comes a bass guy that's gonna run through the middle of the crappie guy's wash us around and nearly swamp some of the smaller vessels to get to a bedded fish or bank, fish a few minutes then run back through the boats!! Totally uncalled for rudest people on the water!!!
You should see what it’s like in FL during snowbird season. Etiquette non-existent. People will drive within 10 feet of you right over where you’re fishing. I had three guys NY’ers almost hit my boat, cut me off and started fishing right in front me maybe 30 feet away. When I asked what the heck they were doing they said “they were fishing that spot all week.” Almost cast a Spook into their boat but took the Randy high road.
Same as Ramp rage folks don’t understand you back down the ramp when your ready to launch not to unloaded your gear do that before you back down the ramp
If he saw some non tournament fisherman fishing from shore Randy would anchor offshore right in front of them with no regards to their right to the spot first. Guaranteed.
How come there is never a video on why he got 48th place or 86th. It's always nobody else knows anything, can't even drive a boat. They probably made the cut.
These are among the many reasons I abhor tournament fishing of any kind (and competitive trophy hunting). Competition should be between you and the fish, not among the anglers competing for prizes. Also, I would never have the gall to approach someone to ask permission to fish my favorite spot where they are already fishing.
Telling your boater to slow down or you will call the tournament director will probably start a fist fight. Which is fine, most boaters that run that way can't fight anyway.
Randy, a lot of people just don't care. they drive there boat the same way they drive there car or truck. Unfortunately I live in California, you should try driving in this hell hole.
Randy, It's the "I got mine!" mentality. It's common sense as another commenter spoke to work behind another fisherman. I sincerely worry about humanity when people behave like this. What if it was a survival situation after a natural disaster, or during war? I pray these people change and do the right thing concerning etiquette on the water. John McHatton
i think we all can agree...this is not about more/better boat training, not about fishing etiquette...this is simple courtesy, something that should have and was probably taught to everyone as a child...when and why have people abandoned this?...Randy, what is the underlying factor here and can you please do a quick vid on this lack of consideration for other people in the general sense?
Riminds me of that guy that came in on top of me on West Point back in the 90’s. When he got to around 20ft away, words were exchanged and ole boy then said he was going to whip my ass etc. I stepped onto his boat and he ran to the back deck still saying he was going to whip my ass. I took his boat keys and stepped back on my boat. He’s still telling me he’s going to whip my ass so I stepped back onto his boat, pulled his trolling motor up and pulled the prop off. I gave him his stuff back 2 hrs later when I was done in that area. He had calmed down by then. But what would I know, I grew up in Mac County.
It sucks getting cut off but what I'm hearing is that there may have been quite a few folks fishing without ffs. How I understand ffs is they are typically out I the middle fishing those areas. If folks are fishing the same spots as randy then I assume they're not using ffs. I may be wrong about this but it seems like there might be a silver lining being overlooked here.
I've watched a bunch of your videos some good content 👍👍👍 .. with that said I also get the impression that no one besides yourself is any good on the water ... Way to many negative videos about other fisherman ... If everyone on the water upsets you so much and makes you sick maybe you shouldn't be on the water putting yourself through the aggravation ...
Just in fun fishing, some have no etiquette. In today’s world most, not all, have the attitude of it’s all about ME, ME, ME. I wasn’t raised that way, thank goodness.
LOL! I suggest you give up fishing tournaments b/c it’s NEVER going to be any different. I’ve been cut off by a guy fishing in the same 10 boat tournament as me on HUGE lake
I suggest people that come to a channel for tips don’t suggest dumb things. How about we change the bad behavior instead of allowing it. Is that such a crazy idea? That’s what’s wrong with our country is nobody cares to do the right thing it’s all greed and ignorance. Good people need to stand up against the stupid masses..:like spotlighters like you
Fishing etiquette doesn't exist with professional tournament anglers, it's all about the all mighty dollar and they couldn't care less what happens to the lake or town when they leave. Bass tournaments have ruined fishing for the regular guy who's lucky to get to fish on a weekend
But, but that's the "tournament" mentality. Screw everybody else, it's all about THEM!! And that's ONE of the reasons why I'll vote to eliminate ALL tournaments on public water, YEAR 'ROUND.......
Boaters don't realize co-anglers have nothing to brace our upper bodies with when they run balls out! Boaters can brace with the steering wheel and hide behind the windshield. The best Co-Anglers get is a makeshift handle in a weird spot and a foot rest.
More than likely they DO know the right thing to do. They just don't care.
Unfortunately, fishing etiquette in tournaments has been an issue for years. It’s a reflection of our society.
It sure is. Where does it all end is what I’m always asking myself.
Shoot fishing etiquette has gone with everyone. Not just tournament anglers.
It does not matter to me if your in a tournament or not if you see me fishing from the bank with a couple rods tossed out the you should show me some etiquette
@@randywilson6869 I agree with you. I just posted a similar story. I'm a bank fisherman too.
im only 26 years old, but i remember fishing when i was young with my dad and everyone seemed so much more respectful. I thought bass anglers were the gentlemen of the fishing world. Seems nowadays a lot of the angling world is full of selfish ego driven anglers.
Hey Randy I completely with you 100%!! For lack of a nicer way to say it, there’s some flat out inconsiderate PRICKS out there that need to be humbled.
Absolutely! I'm a kayak angler and it gets pretty bad sometimes and there's always that one or two boater's that are just insane and will jump right in front of me and takeover the stretch of bank I was working
Yes sir ! My state makes you take a boat safety course. Thanks Randy !
Best video ever! So true all of it. This is the main reason I stopped fishing weekends on the lake and switched to a kayak in smaller waters.
Did you quit driving your car and now just peddle your bike around?
@@altg5708 Nope but with the jet skies, cruser boats wake boats, and fisherman it sucked all the fun out of it. Can't site fish because shore line is muddied up and can't live scope because the coves are used by skiers and main channel is barge traffic and cabin cruisers.
@@altg5708 I guess you're one of the guys this video is about.
@@altg5708tbh this guy has a point absolute worst thing is pleasure boaters up and down the lake and then up and down the lake. I don’t own the water but damn that’s so annoying and I can’t blame the guy.
When I kayak fish I notice more of a problem with tournament fisherman trying to force me off a spot than when I'm in my Triton. When my wife is in her kayak fishing with me they tend not to force us off our spot. Thus, they know they're being jerks when it's me fishing solo.
I kayak fish as well and have had the same thing happen. When I bring my old lady with me and there is 2 kayaks they give us our space
As a fellow kayak angler I know all to well what goes on out there and it gets way out of hand sometimes when it doesn't need to
Why do you fish in a Kayak? Especially if you have a full size bass boat?
I've fished for over 49 years and I have watched the kayak tournament series and I just don't get it to uncomfortable and you got to sit in the same position all day doesn't sound like any fun to me at all?
@@Steve-d8s people have different interests in the way they like to fish regardless of what others like to do or not
To add to your list, with the amount of tournament anglers with little to no regard for fish that they carry around in live wells, running no wake zones, and have no regard for any other boaters on the water or their occupants, it is absolutely no surprise to me. A large proportion of tournament anglers are a plague on lakes IMO.
That's because the youth that got into this sport had no father figure growing up to teach them Boat / fishing etiquette.. most of the youth got into boating / fishing when covid lock downs started .. so they went out & bought $70k boats & started fishing with Noone to guide them .. to the youth it's about looking cool on UA-cam... they don't care about the sport nor etiquette
@@adamsnelson4689ok 🤡 👌
@@adamsnelson4689 I don't disagree, but it's certainly not limited to the "youth".
@@adamsnelson4689 It’s not the youth!! Most of the knuckleheads I run into acting like an idiot are seniors just like me. They think that because they’ve been fishing on the lake for so long that they’re special.
The ones that think that they “Own” a brush pile are complete door knobs!
To them a fish is just fodder for competition.
Who raised these folks? A little courtesy goes a long way.
So glad I quit fishing tournaments. I’m finally having fun again.
Yes!!! When I was young I thought that was what bass fishing WAS... I didn't like tournament anglers to be honest... not my normal circle of people. Loud... sitting around the ramp smoking cigarettes, etc. I fish when and where I want and don't fish in the cold and rain just because I paid an entry fee 3 months ago... once you let the pro angler dream die and go back to hanging drywall... you will enjoy fishing more!
@@alanbesing3693 100% sold my Puma STS and bought a ranger rt 188p for nice days. Couldn’t be happier.
Absolutely. When I was in my late teens, through my twenties, I wouldn't hardly fish, unless there was money on it! I wound up getting out of bass fishing all together when it got to where I couldn't afford all the nice boat and gear that I thought you had to have. Many years past, and about 5 years ago, (I'm 50 now), I decided if I was ever gonna bass gush again I better do it now. Bought a 98' ranger, and started back fishing for the challenge. Me against the bass, the conditions, the lake. I have enjoyed it more in the last few years, than I ever did tournament fishing. Now, I just complain about the weekend tournament anglers, flying around, all stressed out. I just fish. I win every time I go!
I agree 100%. I have had that happen to me so many times in the past. I quit fishing on the weekends due to boat traffic here in south central Florida. I fish during the week and don't have that problem anymore. If I do go to one of my favorite spots and another boat is there, I just keep going to another area. I show that respect and am getting it in return.
I've noticed that all the tournament guys are genuinely really good people, super nice and considerate. UNTIL it's tournament day. Then they loose their collective minds.
EXACTLY
EXACTLY
There is a test it’s called common sense and decency. Unfortunately a lot of people fail that.
My most enjoyable fishing has been in solitude, I've had to backpack to it.
Nobody to fuss my day up but me.
You poor little orchid.
@@altg5708 Why are you making cracks at the guy, I like fishing in solitude too, and I'm not a "poor little orchid." If you weren't hiding safely in mommy's basement, you wouldn't run your mouth
You have no idea what it is to be content in life I suppose. Sorry for your luck pal@@altg5708
As a co angler, you can tell your boater to slow down but he will just make your day miserable.
Only if you have no spine.
If that happens the co-angler can call the tournament director and file a complaint.
I agree with you Randy.. I hope this video gets blasted all over Social Media.. this video should be sent to all of the Bass Clubs in the United States.
Years ago, g got cut off on a small N. PA. Lake @ 6am....2-3 boats on the lake..20 -30 feet away. 😊😊😊..got revenge..turned around and went back to isolated Lilly pads with my son..previously fished w/o success.. wacky rig..post spawn...he caught 15 - 20 4+ lb bass that morning while I put my rod down and kept him in position for the next cast..will never forget it 😊. Thanks
Ps. He was 15 and is still hooked!!!!
Would never gone back and re-fished if not gotten rudely cut off...
Best morning of fishing ever!!
Hey Randy,
Christ is risen!!
He has risen indeed
@@siryarwammowray3445 amen!
Amen!! Risen indeed!
Amen!
What a perfect world we have if everyone was a Randy😅😅😅😊
you don't agree with his point?
@@alanbesing3693 Sorry I think he Complains to much, but I think his fishing tips are Great, I'm the same age as he is, things change the World moves on.
Just had to say something. Jeez
That was not a rant,it was a lesson in ethics and common sense.well done randy.👍
I never heard anyone verbalize those do-nots. It is just common sense and courtesy to your fellow fisherman/fisherwoman. The rudeness extends to our roads and even the aisles of our grocery stores. I can only control how I behave and like you said. Not let it take up space in my head.
The amount of tournament scopers that watch this channel is hilarious…they talk crap but still watch every video because they need the help 😂
Yep! I’ve noticed that too.
Because there taming initiative against the anti scopers which are out of control gas lighting daily
Who said anything about scopers
No we watch it because it's good entertainment and it gives us a good laugh. Which is one of the big reasons Randy makes these videos.
@@lainthdavidmartinez3974 Hey-what happened to that Milliken fellow? Got away from Texas and fell apart...🤣
I was a Co-Angler in the Toyota Series on Grand you're spot on with video! Absolute idiots!! I was fortunate to draw etiquette minded Pros both days! But we watched and spoke on the same thing as it we watched it happen. Smh.. See you at LOZ May 4th!
Chris Johnson , a great buddy and angler . He won the bass master national... check out his pics ... old school . Ranger , sponsor vest and tackle box . You don’t need new
The TX Orgs are to blame for the A hole factor. They are only concerned with filling up the event with as many boats as possible. They need to have regional training classes on the do's and don'ts before accepting an application to entry. imo
One point: "boater" in one of these events does equate to "pro". In fact many times it just equates to "loser" ...
Right on Randy!!!!
I agree 100 %. It will hurt your back! Been there done that!
Randy, I know I’m old … but … you are too. Trucks & anglers are the least of my worries …
It’s called common courtesy
Randy, Dude, I can't agree more. Keep driving the point. Maybe, they'll get it one day.
Hi Randy. It's a shame what some anglers do. I'm just a local angler here in Ohio, and on the local level tournaments are silly. Some guys don't hesitate to tell ya to FO, when ya call them out, and just takes the fun out of competition. I just don't need the aggravation.
I learned a lot of Ethics and (un written rules) back in the 90's when fishing tournaments...I still practice them today. And you know following them I always was paid back later by others that I treated with respect and for being a Great Sportsman...And a comment on FFS the Professional Anglers from the 1980's thru 2000's became great because of going thru a "Learning Curve" which boils down to Two factors (Experience And Time) Which was an investment and commitment of years developing there craft. Now FFS blows a Hole thru that Learning Curve and instant success is Attained...No more years of learning...The only learning curve is to learn to cast to fish on a screen...Powering these Graphs with noise canceling cables and dedicated lithium batteries to obtain the clearest Ultrasound real time underwater view on there display unit.
IIRC, there's this thing called Rule of Responsibility in boating. I have seen boaters do some crazy stuff that defies that & even break the law. Some of those folks would be speeding even near kayakers when they are to yield to such ones (this includes sailboats, larger ships & freighters) since they have less control over their vessel. Plus, I see people being negligent where they get stuck on sandbars & similar places. At times they have to call a boat tow to get them out. These people are tempting fate at times.
It’s all changing. Rules and etiquette is a thing of the past. Just like everything else, there’s a whole new breed of people taking over.
This is a normal occurrence on Grand. It’s been horrible the last couple of years. I fear that those that fish High School type tournaments are led in the wrong direction by their boat captains.
Randy with all due respect, it seams that if things are not Randys way it’s no good. I understand your item 1 regarding driving. However your talking Pro Fishing and driving fast in an open lake area is the choice of the owner operator. I’ve ridden with many top pros as a Marshall and they drive how they drive. Pushing limits is about winning. Safety is important always, but an open lake is owners decision.
Lets not forget the idiots who will move their boats right down the bank into a space where someone is fishing off the bank as well. Great Video Randy !
Well said. I agree 100% with all of this
This is a REALLY hot button for me in a little different way. I'm a bank fisherman and the lack of etiquette of boat fishermen is astounding! I was fishing from the bank in a spot just the other day and these boat fishermen come trolling right through my casting zone without a word! And I know they knew I was there because I heard them say "there's a guy fishing on the bank." I could've easily cast my lure right into their boat. I finally said, "Hey. You're running right through my casting zone." His response...."Oh...ok" and sped up to get by me faster. Talk about being oblivious to others. Probably drives a car the same way. Anyway, that's my rant for the day.
I fished a team tournament on Saturday and we were on a bank where we just pulled up on and within 2-3 minutes another boat came by us and sat down within less than 100’ in front of us. It’s sad what it’s become.
Nothing like a good piece of Hickory.
-Clint Eastwood
Simple solution, ban fishing tournaments. Bass fishing clowns have zero consideration for local fishermen and shoreline residents, but they want everyone around them to be considerate. Cracks me up! Get a job!
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Yeah I quit fishing my local bass club as a non boater. These guys go out buy a $20k bass boat and have no idea what they're doing. Not putting my life in their hands anymore.
The boat-making industry keeps opposing licensing and training. In the commercial marine industry we have been advocating it for years.
Way to go! Call out these a-holes and don't sugar coat it. Some bullies just think they can push anybody around and they usually cave, push back.
I have read many of the comments about this video.I have been complaining about rude and unmannerly fishermen for years. It seems many fishermen feel the same way. Why isn't anything being done about it.
Exactly..... thank you!!!!!!!!!!
Randy, you finally made a video that was not a rant about FFS and the funny is I have to agree with you on this one. Fishing etiquette has been in decline for years and getting worse every year. Unfortunately since most boaters are not faced with any repercussions I don't see this changing anytime soon. In my opinion these are the kind of videos you should be making instead of beating a dead horse on the whole FFS. Hopefully since I agree with you on this video you will leave my post up and not delete, but if you do that is ok too.
Actually I had it happen today but a lot worse than what all you described. I was fishing on Chickamauga and ran out of main river to a slough mouth. While running in I noticed a guy fishing the right side point. Keep in mind he was close to the point and heading on into the slough. I thought that was perfect because I wanted to fish the left point any way. I was probably a cast and a half away from dry ground. I actually caught one on the second or third cast and needed another rubber bait. Guess what happens as I am digging another bait out. Yep! That guy immediately high speed trolls over in between me and the bank and simply starts fishing. OMG! I was so pissed but didn’t say anything. Depending on my mood if I blow up or hold it in and let it go. I kinda regret not eating his butt out after he got gone.
You're 100% correct!
You're wasting your breath, bro.
All of this shit has been going on for 40 years or more, and it isn't ever going to change. 😅
Where did you end up in the derby Randy?
I agree Randy. I fish co-angler for fun and I bring a full faced helmet and I can barely hold on I weigh 250 pounds and have to hold on for my life at all takeoffs. It’s kinda fun but to be honest it’s unsafe as hell and if a fish and game officer was motivated he could write all the tickets they want in a tournament take off.
I will say that if its not a v haul the trim up can make it a smoother ride. I have a bass tracker without that v haul and unless its really bad and i need good control of the boat ill trim up to raise the front end of the boat so its not banging on the water over and over. I think a lot of fisherman do this. It also reduces the likelihood of water coming over the front.
If you don’t agree with the this guy you’re a goober, apparently
Some anglers need a boater handling and safety course.
I had a co angler yell at me one time. It was funny afterwards. We were flying up the river channel, trimmed out, getting it. And my co angler was setting there with his head down, when a jet ski came flying out of a slough right in front of me. I didnt have time to trim down before hitting his wake, and my bow went straight up, and started tail walking for a second. The whole time i was pushing down on the trim. When the boat leveled out, i just got back on the throttle. I could see my co angler starring a hole through me. I finally looked over at him, and he yelled, "dont ever do that with me again!' i started laughing, and slowed to a stop. I explained what happened and he apologized, then we both got a laugh out of it. Truth is, alot if times we run WOT because we can. Not because someone is gonna be on our hole. I know how nerve racking it is riding with someone that throws caution to the wind. I dont tournament fish anymore, but i always keep in mind the guy setting next ti me. If hes death gripping the OH CRAP handlle, ill slow down and take it easier. Fishing is supposed to be fun.
The hearts of many will grow cold…
Glad ur finally getting on Zaldain for no etiquette...
Also, wait until u get ur 18ft boat in rough water..
Etiquette? Damn. It’s gone!! Same lack of etiquette happening at boat ramps. And it’s not just tournament anglers. It’s crazy! Where I fish at Duck River in Cullman Alabama, it’s awful. Plus folks parking in handicap parking spots who aren’t handicapped!! That’s low down as whale shit!!
They should be required to go through a boater safety course and learn all the etiquette on the lake and at the ramp.
Not just bass boats Randy! I was 20’ off the bank fishing the bank and I had a 20’ pontoon at full speed pass between me and the bank. I about got thrown out of the boat.
In PA we have to take a course and get a boating license to drive any boat over 20HP just like your drivers license to drive a car
The new guys are ruthless. Especially on offshore tournaments. They'll pull in, hit the waypoint and leave. Don't care if they get cursed out. They got the hole. It's sad.
As a coangler, I been thru that many times riding with a goober that that doesn’t know how to use his trim switch.
Be careful cCsff goes to headwaters, fellsemere, FL. Lot of idiots there. I've never seen so many dumbies. One guy drove right at me. Coming right next to my boat then gets stuck. I'm yelling it's shallow. Waving my hands to slow up. Some of the corners around tall weeds people come ripping around at high speed. Had a guy pull back on me in his 75k bass boat almost 90 degrees straight up he was going to fast. Then he pulled the throttle. To zero.
There's a difference in safety and common courtesy as a crappie fisherman as many know in the early spring there might be as many as 20 boats or more in an area trolling around getting along catching fish having a good time, then in comes a bass guy that's gonna run through the middle of the crappie guy's wash us around and nearly swamp some of the smaller vessels to get to a bedded fish or bank, fish a few minutes then run back through the boats!! Totally uncalled for rudest people on the water!!!
You should see what it’s like in FL during snowbird season. Etiquette non-existent. People will drive within 10 feet of you right over where you’re fishing. I had three guys NY’ers almost hit my boat, cut me off and started fishing right in front me maybe 30 feet away. When I asked what the heck they were doing they said “they were fishing that spot all week.” Almost cast a Spook into their boat but took the Randy high road.
Same as Ramp rage folks don’t understand you back down the ramp when your ready to launch not to unloaded your gear do that before you back down the ramp
If he saw some non tournament fisherman fishing from shore Randy would anchor offshore right in front of them with no regards to their right to the spot first. Guaranteed.
How come there is never a video on why he got 48th place or 86th. It's always nobody else knows anything, can't even drive a boat. They probably made the cut.
There are state boating classes for boat safety, but not fishing etiquette.
I'd like to hear a few more stories about fishermen you admire. Not complaining. But I'm sure you've met some great people along the way.
I agree on safety first, but that's the nature of competition, they want to get there first. Fishing should just be a hobby, no tournaments! Lol
These are among the many reasons I abhor tournament fishing of any kind (and competitive trophy hunting). Competition should be between you and the fish, not among the anglers competing for prizes. Also, I would never have the gall to approach someone to ask permission to fish my favorite spot where they are already fishing.
Telling your boater to slow down or you will call the tournament director will probably start a fist fight. Which is fine, most boaters that run that way can't fight anyway.
Randy, a lot of people just don't care. they drive there boat the same way they drive there car or truck. Unfortunately I live in California, you should try driving in this hell hole.
Right on Randy... ive paid way to much for my boat and equipment to tear it all to.pieces. tourney or not
Have you ever fished salmon in Michigan?! Lord have mercy!
Randy,
It's the "I got mine!" mentality. It's common sense as another commenter spoke to work behind another fisherman. I sincerely worry about humanity when people behave like this. What if it was a survival situation after a natural disaster, or during war? I pray these people change and do the right thing concerning etiquette on the water.
John McHatton
Well alot of us good guys realize that some Bass fisherman are the rudest guys on the Lake
Tournaments should have a 300 yard rule when pulling into occupied areas when fishing and fishing the opposite direction.
I agree with you, but with as many bass fisherman I see nowadays on my local lakes, it's not often there's 300 yds of shoreline not occupied.
i think we all can agree...this is not about more/better boat training, not about fishing etiquette...this is simple courtesy, something that should have and was probably taught to everyone as a child...when and why have people abandoned this?...Randy, what is the underlying factor here and can you please do a quick vid on this lack of consideration for other people in the general sense?
Thank you! Say it louder for the people in the back! Thought I was about to die over a $200 tournament riding with one of these idiots!
Those anglers are learning bad ethics in the high school and college ranks. You can have all of it, I’m out.
Every cove, bank,hump, etc has a boat on it. TOO MANY TOURNAMENTS!,
Fishing etiquette period has gone to complete 💩.
Im rooting for boulders and floating logs.
Riminds me of that guy that came in on top of me on West Point back in the 90’s. When he got to around 20ft away, words were exchanged and ole boy then said he was going to whip my ass etc. I stepped onto his boat and he ran to the back deck still saying he was going to whip my ass. I took his boat keys and stepped back on my boat. He’s still telling me he’s going to whip my ass so I stepped back onto his boat, pulled his trolling motor up and pulled the prop off. I gave him his stuff back 2 hrs later when I was done in that area. He had calmed down by then.
But what would I know, I grew up in Mac County.
You would have been shot big guy
And then everyone stood and clapped
@@brian9670 fafo
I would pay to see that.
It sucks getting cut off but what I'm hearing is that there may have been quite a few folks fishing without ffs. How I understand ffs is they are typically out I the middle fishing those areas. If folks are fishing the same spots as randy then I assume they're not using ffs. I may be wrong about this but it seems like there might be a silver lining being overlooked here.
Shocking. As social media continues to grow and as the tech keeps improving, things keep getting worse. Who'd a thunk??? Lol.
I can believe it which is why I only fish on a body of water that does NOR allow tournaments ...
I've watched a bunch of your videos some good content 👍👍👍 .. with that said I also get the impression that no one besides yourself is any good on the water ... Way to many negative videos about other fisherman ... If everyone on the water upsets you so much and makes you sick maybe you shouldn't be on the water putting yourself through the aggravation ...
Just in fun fishing, some have no etiquette. In today’s world most, not all, have the attitude of it’s all about ME, ME, ME. I wasn’t raised that way, thank goodness.
LOL! I suggest you give up fishing tournaments b/c it’s NEVER going to be any different. I’ve been cut off by a guy fishing in the same 10 boat tournament as me on HUGE lake
I suggest people that come to a channel for tips don’t suggest dumb things. How about we change the bad behavior instead of allowing it. Is that such a crazy idea? That’s what’s wrong with our country is nobody cares to do the right thing it’s all greed and ignorance. Good people need to stand up against the stupid masses..:like spotlighters like you
Yep that’s the solution. Accept the wrong in the world👍
Fishing etiquette doesn't exist with professional tournament anglers, it's all about the all mighty dollar and they couldn't care less what happens to the lake or town when they leave. Bass tournaments have ruined fishing for the regular guy who's lucky to get to fish on a weekend
Sounds like he needs a faster boat 😂so he won’t get passed again
I’ve met several pros that had to quit fishing because of back problems.
I will never get off my spot for someone fishing a tournament.I won't be rude but it goes both ways
But, but that's the "tournament" mentality. Screw everybody else, it's all about THEM!! And that's ONE of the reasons why I'll vote to eliminate ALL tournaments on public water, YEAR 'ROUND.......
This will never change. There will always be stupid and greedy people.
Boaters don't realize co-anglers have nothing to brace our upper bodies with when they run balls out! Boaters can brace with the steering wheel and hide behind the windshield. The best Co-Anglers get is a makeshift handle in a weird spot and a foot rest.
It's all these young high school college kids that don't know how to operate a bass boat they are dangerous on the water and they have no experience