Great video. One thing I want to point out for anyone that doesn't know is that Godfrey Icon will not work with Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike because when you charge it you increase the number of strikes instead of the damage, so you can't buff an already broken spell even more that way
after doing some extensive testing. at lvl 150 you'll get more damage by going 80 faith with two gravel stone seals over using a dragon communion seal because of the multiplicative stacking. this also stacks multiplicatively with both the dragon from as well as the death knight armor set yielding even higher damage
Correct! There is a certain breakpoint where Dragon Communion FAITH/ARC becomes better but I forgot exactly when - however FAITH/ARC isn't far behind two gravel stones even at lower level, and allows you to use the Flowerstone Gavel very well which makes up for it even at 150
@@GxGNoir because the gavel is pretty bad outside of the debuff. going 80 faith and minimum arcane will still give you best results at 150. from my testing it takes about 65 arcane and 45 faith before using a dragon communion seal starts going ahead. but it's not before 80 arcane that it starts to really shine
Is 2 gravel stone seals better at 85 faith or is one erdtree seal in main and gravel stone seal in other hand better? Also is jellyfish better than either of them, fyi I'm going all on dragon cult rather than halfsies like in the video
@@Bababoogeyman456 at pure faith going 2 gravel stone seals will always be better. although using gravel in off hand and erdtree in main hand will only do about 2% less damage so going gravel x2 is only worth it if you really want to minmax
Ngl i appreciate this very much, im just strangely obsessed with 40/80 FTH/ARC only because it means i become death, destroyer of worlds *regardless* if i choose cult or communion. Though ill definitely like and keep this in my mind for the future lol
I'm using: Golden vow (of course). Howl of Shabriri (Flame does not help in this case). lightning tear and that other one that "Enhances charged attacks for a time". Priestess form. You start using the Flowerstone Gavel skill that reduces the lightning damage negation of your target. Having a Gravel Stone Seal (or 2 if you wanna damage-maxxing by switching after using the Gavel). And then you use Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike that has multi hit potential. On NG+3: I'm getting a lot of damage but not as much an in this video. So if this gameplay is not even a NG this video does not give an decent perspective of damage performance. The build is good but the gameplay seen to show a too much exaggerated damage to be even real.
@@ykharus2840 Charged Attack Physik does not buff incantations it buffs charged heavies on weapons. I'm using the Bloodsucking tear. You are missing out an entire 22% damage if you aren't using it. And, this is NG+2 Also may I ask your stats and if you are casting with dragon communion seal while off handing gravel stone? And are you making sure to cast priestess heart again while in the form to activate the buff? You have to cast it again after first entering the form to get the buff for 20 seconds.v And, what enemies are you doing what amount of damage too? If it's dlc, what is your scadutree blessings level?
@@GxGNoir I'm on lvl 342 with 80 Faith and 80 Dex. I don't even use the dragon seal since I'm just using Cult incantations. Flowerstone in the right hand and Gravel seal on left hand (I just have one for now I will get 2 in this current ng). Charged Attack Physik thing was a surprise to me I was counting on charging buff, that might what was missing. Also bring me to the realization that I'm using Shard of Alexander for nothing since I'm focusing on Incantations I might try blue dancer charm instead if this of any help. Thanks I will try it out again later.
Yeah you right Spiked Cracked Tear does nothing to me, Bloodsucking is better. Blue dancer charm did nothing so I'm going back with shard of alexander in case I want to use bolt of Gransax instead of Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike in some situations.
I tested Yesterday that Knight's Lightning Spear was doing less damage than Gransax Skill. So if I'm using something for range I'm just going for Gransax
@@GxGNoir Been dying to try out Elden Ring but my old potato pc can't handle it. I heard there are some cloud gaming services like Boosteroid that let you play anything even on a cheap laptop. It'd be sick if you could check this one out and mb do a review. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, I bet loads of ur subs would be interested too. Keep up the great work, btw ty for replying my com, i appreciate it:)
@@GxGNoir Ty for the content! u know i Been dying to try out Elden Ring but my old potato pc can't handle it. I heard there are some cloud gaming services like Boosteroid that let you play anything even on a cheap laptop. It'd be sick if you could check this one out and mb do a review. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, I bet loads of ur subs would be interested too. Keep up the great work, btw ty for replying my com, i appreciate it:)
@@GxGNoir Got it. Like you mention in the video, the build uses the same stats so it's really easy to use whichever build you're in the mood for. Thanks man!
I do, and it is my favorite build in the entire game by far! Guide ua-cam.com/video/IGXf0fHeI8E/v-deo.html build showcase at NG+7 ua-cam.com/video/o-lzBfo0BuM/v-deo.html
It will not - if you want to use Bolt of Granssax in a Dragon Cult build you will want to go FAITH/DEX instead of FAITH/ARCANE, and use 2 Gravel Stone Seals instead of the Dragon Communion Seal
@@TheLordofChampions ive tried that but having to keep switching from seal to weapon to cast it plus the short duration made it feel very clunky and impractical
at lower levels its not, but once you reach a certain amount of Arcane it is - I'll have to double check the exact amount. However, even at lower levels being specced into Arcane allows great use of the Flowerstone Gavel, making it worth it even at those lower levels
So that I don't need to be worried about needing to swig a flask in the middle of combat as often. You don't need it though and if you are doing a lower level build its perfectly fine to stop at 38 mind
Most of the Dragon Cult incantations are. Knights Lightning Spear and Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike are as well as Flowerstone Gavel Skill, and those are what we use the most on this build
@@leve3588 Check out my Strength Arcane build! Some of the setups on it are using things entirely from the base game ua-cam.com/video/d3ZjR2twvZo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GxGNoir
Death Knight Armor buffs the Dragon cults more than the dragon transformation it also buffs ashes of war instead of only incantations. Hopefully the patch the dragon transformation to actually be more useful.
A lot of ppl are sleeping on these dragon builds
In particular theses new dragon skins
I know right? The transformations giving you a straight up 20% damage increase is massive these builds can just melt HP bars
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"Fia's simps." 😂
You're not even wrong.
lmfao 🤣
Quite literly the best build for Lightning ive ever seen
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The dragon forms do offer good resistances though to make up for the lack of armor.
@@phuckerpower They do, and it certainly helps! But it's still quite squishy compared to armor
This was so helpful brotha great summary
Glad you found it helpful! Hope you have fun with the build!
Great video. One thing I want to point out for anyone that doesn't know is that Godfrey Icon will not work with Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike because when you charge it you increase the number of strikes instead of the damage, so you can't buff an already broken spell even more that way
Thanks! Wouldn't increasing the number of strikes still = more damage though, assuming they hit?
after doing some extensive testing. at lvl 150 you'll get more damage by going 80 faith with two gravel stone seals over using a dragon communion seal because of the multiplicative stacking. this also stacks multiplicatively with both the dragon from as well as the death knight armor set yielding even higher damage
Correct! There is a certain breakpoint where Dragon Communion FAITH/ARC becomes better but I forgot exactly when - however FAITH/ARC isn't far behind two gravel stones even at lower level, and allows you to use the Flowerstone Gavel very well which makes up for it even at 150
@@GxGNoir because the gavel is pretty bad outside of the debuff. going 80 faith and minimum arcane will still give you best results at 150. from my testing it takes about 65 arcane and 45 faith before using a dragon communion seal starts going ahead. but it's not before 80 arcane that it starts to really shine
Is 2 gravel stone seals better at 85 faith or is one erdtree seal in main and gravel stone seal in other hand better? Also is jellyfish better than either of them, fyi I'm going all on dragon cult rather than halfsies like in the video
@@Bababoogeyman456 at pure faith going 2 gravel stone seals will always be better. although using gravel in off hand and erdtree in main hand will only do about 2% less damage so going gravel x2 is only worth it if you really want to minmax
Ngl i appreciate this very much, im just strangely obsessed with 40/80 FTH/ARC only because it means i become death, destroyer of worlds *regardless* if i choose cult or communion. Though ill definitely like and keep this in my mind for the future lol
@@notsosou3425 Yep it's very nice being able to use either dragon build without having to respec!
I'm using:
Golden vow (of course).
Howl of Shabriri (Flame does not help in this case).
lightning tear and that other one that "Enhances charged attacks for a time".
Priestess form.
You start using the Flowerstone Gavel skill that reduces the lightning damage negation of your target.
Having a Gravel Stone Seal (or 2 if you wanna damage-maxxing by switching after using the Gavel).
And then you use Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike that has multi hit potential.
On NG+3: I'm getting a lot of damage but not as much an in this video. So if this gameplay is not even a NG this video does not give an decent perspective of damage performance. The build is good but the gameplay seen to show a too much exaggerated damage to be even real.
@@ykharus2840 Charged Attack Physik does not buff incantations it buffs charged heavies on weapons. I'm using the Bloodsucking tear. You are missing out an entire 22% damage if you aren't using it.
And, this is NG+2
Also may I ask your stats and if you are casting with dragon communion seal while off handing gravel stone? And are you making sure to cast priestess heart again while in the form to activate the buff? You have to cast it again after first entering the form to get the buff for 20 seconds.v
And, what enemies are you doing what amount of damage too? If it's dlc, what is your scadutree blessings level?
@@GxGNoir I'm on lvl 342 with 80 Faith and 80 Dex. I don't even use the dragon seal since I'm just using Cult incantations. Flowerstone in the right hand and Gravel seal on left hand (I just have one for now I will get 2 in this current ng). Charged Attack Physik thing was a surprise to me I was counting on charging buff, that might what was missing. Also bring me to the realization that I'm using Shard of Alexander for nothing since I'm focusing on Incantations I might try blue dancer charm instead if this of any help. Thanks I will try it out again later.
Yeah you right Spiked Cracked Tear does nothing to me, Bloodsucking is better. Blue dancer charm did nothing so I'm going back with shard of alexander in case I want to use bolt of Gransax instead of Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike in some situations.
I tested Yesterday that Knight's Lightning Spear was doing less damage than Gransax Skill. So if I'm using something for range I'm just going for Gransax
Yeah i don't understand why alot of ppl don't talk about faith/arcane builds
Over all great vedio
Thanks!
Yo, this vid is sick! I love it. Keep up the awesome content, you're doing great
@@nimerecl Thanks, appreciate it!
@@GxGNoir Been dying to try out Elden Ring but my old potato pc can't handle it. I heard there are some cloud gaming services like Boosteroid that let you play anything even on a cheap laptop. It'd be sick if you could check this one out and mb do a review. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, I bet loads of ur subs would be interested too. Keep up the great work, btw ty for replying my com, i appreciate it:)
@@GxGNoir Ty for the content! u know i Been dying to try out Elden Ring but my old potato pc can't handle it. I heard there are some cloud gaming services like Boosteroid that let you play anything even on a cheap laptop. It'd be sick if you could check this one out and mb do a review. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, I bet loads of ur subs would be interested too. Keep up the great work, btw ty for replying my com, i appreciate it:)
Do you prefer this Dragon Cult build, or your Dragon Communion build?
Easily Dragon Communion because it has way more options, AoE, way better close range options, and incredible hyper armor
@@GxGNoir Got it. Like you mention in the video, the build uses the same stats so it's really easy to use whichever build you're in the mood for. Thanks man!
I’m actually using this I’m sacdutree level 17 and nuking everything time to go fight rahdan
Love to hear it! Put Radahn out of his misery!
I use the same build but with Death Knight set. Only 8% instead of 20% but more defences
Yep, definitely a very good way to play if you don't want to be a complete glass canon!
@@GxGNoir yeah and i always forget to rebuff my priestess heart 😂😂
Ive been rocking out a dragon communion build with similar stats alteady so ill have to try this out some next time i play
Do you have a Dragon communion Version as well?
I do, and it is my favorite build in the entire game by far! Guide ua-cam.com/video/IGXf0fHeI8E/v-deo.html build showcase at NG+7 ua-cam.com/video/o-lzBfo0BuM/v-deo.html
@@GxGNoir oh nice ok. Just found this one on my feed. That’s why I ask if you did another video 🤭🤣
Just a general question and it might sound stupid, will this build buff bolt of gransax as well?
It will not - if you want to use Bolt of Granssax in a Dragon Cult build you will want to go FAITH/DEX instead of FAITH/ARCANE, and use 2 Gravel Stone Seals instead of the Dragon Communion Seal
You could always add the Endure ash of war to this to compensate for the low defense and to make it easier to get the spells off.
@@TheLordofChampions ive tried that but having to keep switching from seal to weapon to cast it plus the short duration made it feel very clunky and impractical
Is the dragon communion seal good enough to lose out on the extra 15 percent damage boost from 2 gravel stone seals?
at lower levels its not, but once you reach a certain amount of Arcane it is - I'll have to double check the exact amount. However, even at lower levels being specced into Arcane allows great use of the Flowerstone Gavel, making it worth it even at those lower levels
Awesome I did not know that I have enough stats to be able to put 99 into faith and arcane so I’ll have to mess around with some testing later thanks!
If you go pure faith for just lightning which dragon form is better
Dragon Cult, because Dragon Communion is primarily Arcane
What’s the point of such high mind, you only need 38 to fully replenish your fp with a fully upgraded flask
So that I don't need to be worried about needing to swig a flask in the middle of combat as often. You don't need it though and if you are doing a lower level build its perfectly fine to stop at 38 mind
Do you prefer this to dragon communion build?
@@joshuamead1525 no
@@GxGNoir Dragón Communion better?
Godfreys Icon boosts charged spells only, is any of those incantations even chargable?
Most of the Dragon Cult incantations are. Knights Lightning Spear and Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike are as well as Flowerstone Gavel Skill, and those are what we use the most on this build
No work with 99 faith and 80 arcane, switching talismans?
damage will be lower with 99 faith 80 arcane because the seal has S scaling in arcane and B scaling in faith
Can i get this build without having the dlc?
@@leve3588 No
@@GxGNoirdamn do you have any really op builds that work’s without t the dlc
@@leve3588 Check out my Strength Arcane build! Some of the setups on it are using things entirely from the base game ua-cam.com/video/d3ZjR2twvZo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GxGNoir
A well thought out build. I'm going to give it a try. Thank you!
No problem! Hope you enjoy it!
Why not shard of Alexander
doesnt buff incantations
How it would be if I had 80 faith and arcane?
excellent but getting to 99 arcane is better than getting to 80 faith
i have lvl 200. but i cant make this work. i simply dont have your damage
Use the correct seals and buffs
@@Rocashu what exactly are you using and how much damage are you doing?
Widdlewee
I test dragon build but like dog don't that good because slow &max damage around 8k, because is too slow can't use on most bosses
I test this soon
most all of the dlc stuff is trash, but at least, they added this that isn't that bad.
@@xagnarok3991 dragon communion too!
All trash though? Lol 😂
Great build! Mine is similar except instead of the lightening charm I used blue dancer charm you’ll get 10% instead of 12.5 but no lowered defense
@@certifiedcib7958 Oh, Blue Dancer Charm only buffs Physical damage your dragon cult abilities aren't buffed by it
@@GxGNoir oh no way 😑 good to know but hey at least it works for my dragon communion build 😅
@@GxGNoir that’s whack though, it says attack power .. it should specify “physical”
Electric spear are insane ! May be a nerfed soon ! 😂
@@natchilusdemus8896 wouldmt he surprised!
Definitely not you have to really build into it to get these numbers and at the expense of defence
@@Oldtimenattylife true
Death Knight Armor buffs the Dragon cults more than the dragon transformation it also buffs ashes of war instead of only incantations. Hopefully the patch the dragon transformation to actually be more useful.
Is this a bug? Becuse the Death knight set should only buff the dmg by a total of 8% (2% per piece) and the Dragon form should be 20%.
@@Smisk1o1 I believe so, I tested the buff with knights lighting spear and i had about 200 more damage with death armor instead of dragon buff.
252 build lmao
fromsoftsexual lmao