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Im happy to hear RI is so catholic, my whole family was but i didnt know it was so heavily and uniquely catholic. I cant wait to get more into catholicism.
@@ImperiumMagistrate it does, but rhode islands politics are much more moderate, its not as bad as other states in terms of implemented leftist policies. Our favorite politician is buddy cianci, a literal mobster, that was a republican, and dems and reps in the state loved the guy. none of our local politicians have done anything in the last 20 years, people mostly just dont care and vote for the same person
I’m a fellow Pennsylvanian Catholic. My parents came from the Dominican Republic, then resided in New York, till they finally came to Pennsylvania, where I was born & have been a Catholic my whole life.
As a Baptist I loved the Baptist video. I found this one very interesting because it kind of confirmed for me my anecdotal experience with Catholics in general, that being that it’s much more cultural for a lot of them than the average Protestant. As a Protestant for me to say “yeah that guy is one of us” he would need to show some evidence of that. In my evangelical tradition being born to Christian parents doesn’t make you a Christian. For Catholics it seems like from what I can tell that it’s a much more collective cultural experience. I’m honestly curious as to what a non-cultural Catholic thinks about Catholics who are only nominally Catholic because they are Irish or Italian or some other ethnic or family reason.
I am from a family that is culturally Catholic (Italian American) but my father has always been religious and he raised me to be religious as well, Catholics who actually practice their faith kind of joke about people who pretend to understand religion and are only culturally catholic, it is really sad that so many Catholics do not practice the Faith
@@alexsullo9855 Growing up it always seemed based on tv that Catholics were very left wing. So the graph showing that in the 90's white Catholics were an even 45% vs 45% split was a surprise. Would you say the that the left vs right among Catholics tracts to the cultural vs religious? And would this be a recent phenomenon or does it go back further?
@@Liethen religious catholics and cultural catholics typically split in terms of the vote. though then there is the trad/modernist dichotomony. typically religious catholics will go right, while cultural will go left.
It's strange you mention Culture because I'm from a Catholic background on my Mom's side and I don't practice as such but I feel I still class myself as Catholic and it is more in a Cultural sense! I think it's different over here though tied more to history etc and rebellion Lol
I am a Catholic American from St. Louis and I think your analysis is really good, though I want to point out that most devout Catholics that I meet lean towards the conservative side politically while almost every liberal Catholic I've met is rather irreligious (I suspect this comes down to the abortion issue in large part). I especially agree with your last point as I have seen a large shift back towards tradition in the church among devout members. What may be surprising is that the majority of those advocating a more traditional approach are the younger generation born after the Second Vatican Council who reject the changes they grew up with. Given the youth and devotion of these younger Catholics, I think a more traditional Church is inevitable in the coming decades (at least in the United States.)
Honestly, as a culturally Catholic dude who finds the current stance on LGBTQ matters (and abortion to a lesser extent) unacceptable I have a hope that the much more conservative American bishops will lead a new schism. I’m hoping for a Catholic Church that focuses on what Jesus taught and doesn’t worry about who loves who. I’m hoping a conservative exodus would result in progress with the RC.
The same shift towards traditionalism is slowly happening in Northern Mexico/Aridia recently as well, which feeds into further internal divisions within Mexico itself. It’s surprising to see that traditionalism amongst youths is spreading throughout much of the Church across different countries semi-independently.
@@NesRuA in South America we're seeing the same thing. I've had conversations with friends in North and South America, and Europe as well. Everyone seems to agree that somehow the younger generations are rejecting the modernist changes and going back to the Tradition. I'm pretty sure it's undeniable this phenomenon is happening, I'm just not sure what the reason is. Perhaps it's the Holy Spirit acting?
This is an interesting video, I was raised Catholic, and I'm sure any one of us will tell you even if you leave the faith you can never really stop being Catholic lol My family comes from Quebec, which I think makes things a little bit more interesting since Quebec didn't secularize till roughly the 60's. This had relatively little effect on me, but my parents, and especially my grand parents all had exposure to OLD SCHOOL Catholic values. Both my parents have more than seven siblings and my grandparents have more than ten. Now, I'm probably going to have two kids at most and some of my family still in Quebec have no children at all. Strange how fast things change
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
While I may be biased coming from Indiana, the Great Lakes Catholic nation has the best opportunity to become the next nexus of religion, economic, and environmental dominance in America. She is positioned in one of the best possible spawn points in the world, with freshwater, abundant farmland, and a vast transportation network of road, railroads, and rivers. A population that is diverse, steadily growing, and not experiencing a dramatic exodus or invasion. Thus letting the local governments within the 8-10 states, to focus on solutions of a possible population spike around the 2050's due to either environmental, economic or opportunity reasons. The Midwest still possesses the once mighty bones of the industrial heart of America, combined with a forward thinking group of people to pilot the Great Lakes into the 22nd century, a combined effort on all fronts could position the region for domestic and global prestige.
You guys needs to take back control of your cities though, or all those resources will be at the essential control of the secular left. Purple Chicago is possible.
This tracks, I'm a mid-Atlantic Italian-Irish Catholic. Calling Vatican II disappointing is an understatement. Decreased unity, decreased authority, and the people they were afraid of losing left anyways. Return to tradition, reject modernity, Latin rules.
I’m mid-Atlantic Franco-Italian and I don’t have a problem with V2. The execution of church modernization was going to be flawed; not that law and ritual should be “modernized” but we aren’t living in urban communes anymore. What it did was loosen the indulgent opulence and insulation of the clergy and gave the church a platform in (what would become) the *world* of instant portable communication and 4 car families that still cannot match the life’s work of a priest in an organization holding all records of and continuing 2000 years of theology. Unlike some people…
@@Otterdisappointment I understand what you're saying the church gained, it's the same gains that were promised in the 1960s, but I don't think the data really suggests we actually made those gains. Given that more conservative churches (evangelicals and Mormons) have done far better than more liberal ones (mainline protestants) in the decades since V2, it's reasonable to assume that the Catholic Church would also have done better if it had stayed more conservative, and that the growth projections from the 1960s and which you appear to believe actually occurred, were wildly inaccurate. If you have any actual evidence that liberalizing helped the church grow or mitigate losses I'd love to hear them, because I really haven't seen any. From my point of view, we both liberalized and lost a greater share of our platform, not the other way around.
For the alternate history, I’d like to see the What if Dollfuss survives from assassination and then allied with Italy to avoid Anschluss and join the allies in the WW2. And I’d like to see the scenario that what if the Sino-Soviet conflict in 1969 caused the WW3, What if Britain annexed the US after the war of 1812, What if the USA used nukes during the Korean War, What if Korea and Japan becomes a colony of France and the US by each, and what if the Mongolian Army conquered Japan and India. Still, I’m waiting for the new chapter of the Scar Nicholas. I want to see how Mr.H went to Siberia and crushed the Bolsheviks and Japanese and what happens to him after he meets the Tsar.
the America of today rn is the America the catholics created Catholic right wingers larping with their church when majority of the Conservative people in America are Protestant smh
On another note, I recently became a 4th degree knight for the Knights of Columbus. Which gave rise in America and eventually spreading globally, have you considered this organization too in the Catholic America?
As coming from a very Catholic family in the St. Louis area, wish there was a little explanation for that portion. Since it seems to be different a bit from the Great Lakes part because it's proximity to Baptists and the Catholic Identity is set from the start so there was always a Catholic elite. Has some similarities to Louisiana and likely the closest Catholic culture to it.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
I'm also from the St. Louis area and I think part of the similarity between St. Louis and Louisiana is the heavy French influences (as the city's name would suggest) that built the Catholic culture, and the Anglo-Protestants arriving later after it was well established. Though sadly now the Church is shrinking rapidly in the area. God bless you, brother.
@@jackmcclain534 @Greg Etter, pardon my asking but I know around here where I live which is generally considered the Bible Belt those who are Catholic if they are practicing tend to be more politically conservative those who are less so tend to be politically more liberal but more important than that I was curious in your neck of the woods if traditional Latin Mass making much of a comeback. Seems to be especially despite the best efforts of dictator bergoglio I mean Pope Francis. I say that with no enthusiasm but he has certainly earned it in recent months. On a separate side-note both of my parents are neither from this area my father being from Southern Louisiana and my mother being from New York City specifically of the ethnic archetypes mentioned that are predominant. Of course in the case of Louisiana don't forget that with the development of areas that were previously unusable swampland oh, much of that certainly was made usable through the sweat toil and sometimes even blood of Irishmen.
@@eddieschwab864 As the Pope has restricted the use of the Latin Mass so much, it's hard to tell how much enthusiasm these is for it. There are only a couple of places in the Archdiocese that are doing it and I suspect they won't be able to for long unless they are Oratories or churches run by religious orders rather than parishes. I have noticed more traditional practices making a comeback, especially among younger Catholics, in my own parish, however.
@Jack McClain well for instance where I go regularly has been turned into a mission church it previously was a parish. Another one that I periodically attend depending on my goings-on and which one I'm able to get to quicker I'm not sure if it's been turned to an oratory Mission or whatnot I've not heard specifics but the one I do attend regularly is bititual, having two alternates between tlm one weekend and ordinary form in Latin the other weekend. The other one is sometimes harder to get too but it's exclusively tlm at least at that mass time. There's early morning mass in ordinary form at the one I regularly attend but we strictly go to 2 p.m. mass on Sunday afternoon because that's when tlm is offered every other weekend and we just bite the bullet the other weekend on ordinary form in Latin. Although one of the priests that strictly did the ordinary form and Latin has been reassigned as of the last week or so so I'm hoping the one that does the tlm might do it more often. And once in a blue moon I know it's dirty word even amongst many traditionalist we even sometimes go to the sspx. Compared to fraternity of Saint Peter is somewhat ubiquitous in this part of the country and Institute of Christ the King is virtually nonexistent. Both churches we make it to most often are Diocesan,
The way I would describe it is that in New England, Catholicism isn't the meat, but it's one of the prominent seasonings. The same goes for Puritanism, which is quite a blend considering how aggressively anti-Catholic the Puritans were. To make those compatible you have to relinquish feelings of intense religious fervor, especially in densely populated areas (which most of New England is). That process began prior to the arrival of Catholic European immigrants, but was placed under higher pressure from then onward. Another layer I'd add is Boston being more Irish Catholic whereas New York is more Italian Catholic. I think Irish outward humility is more compatible with Puritanism than Italian outward boldness, and is one of the distinguishing factors of the two regions. I mean, it was like that anyway before those waves of immigration, but they added the critical mass to it, so now it's difficult to imagine a glitzy Boston and reserved New York.
Good job I've been looking forward to this one. There are 2 regions of the country that you haven't touched on yet, Mormon Utah (former Deseret) and atheistic Cascadia. Could you do a video on both?
It'd be interesting to project the conflicting "claims" of these nations after the series is concluded, go over which disputes are likely to get... ugly, and which ones will resolve peacefully.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel
The map has a few major omissions. Both Mobile, Alabama and the Louisville, KY/Southern Indiana areas are extremely Catholic. The presence is felt even today though the large number of Catholic churches and Catholic schools in each area. For example, there are fifty-nine Catholic elementary and high schools in Louisville. In addition, southern Indiana is the site of Saint Meinrad Seminary, one of the largest such institutions in the United States. The Catholic influence remains very strong in Mobile, to the extent that even public schools adopted a parochial school-style uniform code and the entire school system follows the Catholic calendar for days off.
I live down in Southern Kentucky right in the Bible Belt did not realize that there were that many Catholic schools in Louisville unless that's for the Archdiocese of Louisville as a whole.
In many ways, Louisville is not Kentucky. I attended the University of Louisville, and I can tell you that Louisville is culturally, economically, and socially divorced from much of the rest of the state.
@@javiermoretti1825 fair enough I just don't see that much of a difference other than the size of the town I live in Bowling Green third largest city in the state
Ask and ye shall receive (which is funny considering I'm not Catholic). Let's see now: Five Catholic Americas, a Lutheran America, a Baptist America, and a Mormon America. I'm very much enjoying this series, BTW. What I'd like to know is, where would my home state of Colorado wind up?
@Monsieur Z THANK YOU! Finally! I have long waited for this video to be released so I could watch it! It was such a great video and informative. You did well creating this video! I look forward to more Catholic related videos. DEUS VULT!!! ⚔️ 🛡️ 🏴 📿 ⛪️🛐
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel
Until now, I would have never guessed the largest religious group in NS were Catholics. I grew up there, and even have Catholic family, but there are far more Protestant churches than Catholic ones.
I imagine It's because protestants have many more denominations, you can have 1big catholic church per town, but for every protestant denomination you need a separate church building
Growing up in the suburbs of New York City; it should be noted the areas around New York City including parts of Connecticut and New Jersey are not overwhelmingly Catholic anymore. Jews have had a significant presence since the early 1900s; Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists today also make up a significant population. There are more Jews living in the areas around New York City than anywhere else besides Israel.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 No You only not Catholicism so you know nothing about Christianity. Roman pagans replaced Christianity with paganism. Priest eucharist bread sacrifice, celibacy, Mother Goddess worship[ who you call Mary], God Man King[ who you call the pope] Read the Bible and learn Christianity before its too late.
@@bartholomus9548 Yes Herbert Hoover the 31st President from 1929-1933 was Quaker Protestant (the other is Nixon German from his mother side who was Vice President under the other German American President Eisenhower) the Pope on his Presidency was Pius XI from 1922 to 1939
I think the Midwestern Catholic nation has the most hope in the future. The Midwest is more family oriented and more socially conservative than the other regions while Trump style of economics seems more attractive here since the workers in this region have been betrayed by the corrupt establishment in D.C that outsourced jobs in the rust belt to other nations. If the Midwest and Mid Atlantic regions unite under traditional Catholicism then this region would be the bedrock of Catholicism and classical conservatism in America. Also, New England is too neoliberal and the South West has little to no connection to the historic American nation and the south is mainly protestant and classical liberal so the Midwest is really the most likely place for the start of a Catholic America.
You're not understanding the mid west. There's maybe 1 (if any) catholic churches in any given county in the Midwest. There's usually 4 to 5 Baptist churches alone. Evangelism is the highest concentration of Christianity in America. It's very rare for a protestants convert to Catholicism, the reverse happens constantly.
@@fathead8933 i converted from Catholicism to Presbyterianism and i was very Traditionalist Catholic and so were some of my friends but we became Reformed Christians cause of our strict Augustinian theology So it's true that this weird Catholic far right that seems just synthetic and more of a cope over Protestant institutions being subverted and this veil of order in the Catholic Church(there isnt really any aswell) is attractive along with pretty mass but at the end of the day it's really not rooted in the Christian religion itself but a need to belong to something and something thats really old
@fathead8933 I am a convert from Protestantism to Catholicism. I can assure you that the Evangelical heretics will not be the ones who will save America. America is more Protestant and always has been but hopefully it will become more Catholic in the future.
@@pink_kino Bro, did you really just say that Catholicism isn't rooted in Christian tradition or Augustine theology when both of these things are extremely Catholic. Also, people aren't converting to the one true church just because of aesthetics. They are returning home to Rome because it is the truth.
@@miguelpadeiro762 A secular state? Perhaps in that sense its not as dangerous, debates can be made though. The intituional influence of a chruch on the state has been a common issue in eariler years. But a secular chruch? The issue mearly switched sides. The institutional influence of the state on the chruch is the modern issue, and that is harrowing for the faith. That is what the first amendment in America pertains too, and is the true meaning of seperation of Chruch and State. What is and isnt objectivly humane is irrelevant to the conversation. And yes, Marxism is dangerous to both Chruch and State. It is also notable Atheistic.
I will say, given that in many of the midwestern states Catholicism is only the plurality, could the protestant populations pose a potential threat to any catholic nation (before y'all say it I am a protestant, but I am curious though about how that could change things).
Possibly, though in my heart of hearts I would hope that Catholics and Protestants can in the near future set aside theological or cultural squabbles to unite against the common enemy (neo-marxism) and I am fully confident that any animosity between the two groups could be resolved peacefully.
@@orangedalmatian I would hope so aswell, however if the nation’s core identity is Catholicism and not simply the broader hand of Christianity, then it could very well be torn apart.
Is there even enough of a Eastern Orthodox demographic in any part of the country for that to be able to incorporate? Besides except for the Filioque, Catholic and Orthodox theology virtually identical, in terms of saints, Mariology Doctrine on the real presence and the hypostatic relationship of Christ being fully God and fully man. For that matter, while a Baptists would easily roll their eyes at the notion of the real presence or anything to do with the Blessed Mother or as y'all call her the theotokos, pretty sure they would agree with Catholics and Orthodox on the hypostatic relationship of Christ being fully God and fully man. Perhaps a slight edit to incorporate orthodox demographically in with the Catholics because pretty sure many of the behaviors where Orthodox are found are similar to that of Catholics. Meaning those who are particularly religious typically vote Republican those who are not vote Democrat for instance amongst other things
Hey, I love the video, as a catholic who is studying catholic theology i surest that you would look over the catholic doctrines more because a lot is wrongfully presented ( almost a protestantsyrawman), I do not think it was intentional but I would just clarify- especially on the priest and people relationship and what Vatican 2 really said. Otherwise top notch.
Hey Monsieur. Can you make a video on how a post second civil war USA might look like? I've been looking at all your America videos and wondered what a post war America might look like.
Do an Anglican/Episcopal America! I’m curious to see this because there were a lot of Anglican signers of the Declaration of Independence; but we’ve always been a minority, until the last century or so we were mostly the church of the upper class of English aristocratic descendant.
You did not mention, there is a substantial Catholic subculture in the South, that's not necessarily Hispanic. My theory is that since the south is ethnically Scottish or Irish, there was plenty of holdover from the old world. One of the Confederacy's first Brigadier Generals was a Catholic, and the Confederacy sent priests to both Ireland and the Vatican to act as diplomats. Famous southern writer Flannery O'Connor, yup Catholic. Any city that was not touched by union troops will likely have Catholic Churches that predate 1865. (There were some good reasons southern Catholics staunchly supported the Confederacy!) To use my own state as an example, the Union failed to take Selma, so there are a handful of old Catholic churches in the city. In northern Alabama in the middle of cow country, you can find an Italian style monastery chilling out on the countryside, me and my dad had visited there a couple times.
I think your theory holds up mostly, but the largest ancestry among white Southerners is English last I checked. Before the 'American' ethnicity was added in 1990, in the 1980 census the majority of white Southerners recorded being English in origin, followed by Irish (theorized to mostly be Scots-Irish, which is ethnically Scottish and English since they were mostly Protestant and few Catholics). I also think the bulk of Scots are historically Protestant, since the Highland Clearances back in Great Britain cleared the Scottish Highlands of the mostly Gaelic-speaking, Catholic highlanders, who fled for Ireland and the Hebrides Islands.
Can you make a video about what if Maurice Bavaud had succeeded with his plan against A.H. in 1938? Who would be the next leader of Germany? Would Germany take a more pragmatic strategy in it's foreign policy or would Germany still start an unwinnable war in 1939?
If he'd succeeded it also depends on which if any of the military branches stood behind them in doing so at that stage. Although often regarded militarily as part of the Inner Circle Admirals like Karl Doenitz, Generals like Erwin Rommel or Von Beck or Von Paulus never were members of the National Socialist Party and if they'd seen things coming as it ended up, probably any one of those would have acted to remove him. Some people try to contradict that with Doenitz for succeeding Hitler in what was a rump government to sign the surrender, but that was mainly because he was the highest-ranking surviving member of the military
An important thing to note, slavery would not be prevalent in a Catholic America as the Catholic Church was vehemently against chattel slavery (hence why the North, which was way more Catholic was abolitionist). This would result in a LOT less African-Americans ever existing. Another big change would probably be the US being less isolationist as the Catholic America might want to participate in more affairs
the abolitionism was rooted in the Puritans, and thats not really true cause the Spanish Empire found ways around it and the Portuguese Empire just didnt care
I don't know how anti it was in areas where it was legal at the time and there were plenty of areas that were hat if not predominantly Catholic had even a sizable Catholic minority. A great many of them likewise participated in the peculiar Institution
is there a reason eastern Cape Breton was excluded from new Britain? they aren't really culturally seperate from western cape breton, or eastern mainland Nova Scotia
Although sects of Christianity did use to despise each other (Tudor England lol) I haven't seemed to notice that now. If the US splits, it will more likely be ideology or culture-driven, as opposed to religion-driven. That said I'm not religious, and I won't claim to know a lot about inter-Christian relations.
Many Catholics wouldn’t kill Protestants now for leaving Rome. We just want them to return to Christs church, they left to follow traditions of men 500 years ago and have deteriorated to Ted talks and strip mall churches while their historical ones die off.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
@@codyj.braunva5406 Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. Roman pagans replaced Christianity with paganism. Priest eucharist bread sacrifice, Idolatry, celibacy, Mother Goddess worship[ who you call Mary], God Man King[ who you call the pope] Read the Bible and learn Christianity
I can't imagine this working. It is very very difficult to find actual statistics on Orthodoxy in America due to the lack of communication between jurisdictions. That being said, I see Orthodoxy slowly growing, and taking over the most traditionalist blocks of American Christians despite Orthodoxy being so foreign.
@@urubissoldat5452 It is not seen as different as any other church in general. I am just using protests as example. The cathoic church has more negative things going on other evangelical and yohava whatever their names.
Next video: “is orthodox america inevitable ?“ Would be interesting especially since the faith is growing slowly but surely especially amongst the more educated african americans since it makes more sense than the various Protestant faiths
@@fepper5980 true their number is really small right now, but we have to considerate that the Catholic Church is becoming more and more liberal each day so the Traditional Latin Mass could be fully replaced by some novus-ordo like thing in the future years if the Catholic Church keeps doing what they are already doing
I take severe umbrage to the characterization of Catholics as socialistic & pro-immigration chaos! I’m Catholic and I’m fiscally Objectivist Capitalist & a pre-14 amendment immigration policy.
I understand the frustration, but you are a minority in your circles. I’m a Lutheran myself and come from a very orthodox and high church background. Yet the ELCA and their lesbian pastors represent me when most people think of Lutherans. The rot of the world has infected every denomination of the Church for membership numbers and financial gain. We must collectively course correct from within with the tools that God gave us.
@Fepper 1. Hierarchy & collectivism/commie labor unions/redistribution of wealth are 2 different things! 2. Long before Martin Luther theologians in Spain exploring the medieval concept of “just price” concluded that so many different factors worked to determine it that only divine omniscience could grasp them all; the best human recourse was to let the market decide.
@Fepper Capitalism though was against the rich taking so much power as with the Progressive Era and Anti-Trust. Capitalism doesnt mean you have too bootlick conglomerates.
I would recommend reading the Vatican II documents. It was not about modernizing the Church like you think. It was about opening the windows for some fresh air after WWII, not throwing out the furniture.
The documents were but the spirit of Vatican 2 is what thoroughly messed things up. For more info check out dr. Taylor Marshall The Remnant newspaper or church militant
I'm a born and raised Catholic, in fact my whole family something i notice with Catholics is there more poltically divided than Mormons, Protestants, Baptists and Evangelicals which are broadly Republicans while Catholics don't really have a alliance with either The Democrats or Republicans
I've noticed that too. Protestants, Orthodox and Mormons tend to be Republican, Catholics and agnostics seem to be split, while atheists, Jews, Muslims and other non-Christians tend to be Democrat (which is ironic for Muslims, since Islam is the most conservative major religion on the planet).
5:27 There is no Latino Cardinal from the USA but Benedict XVI’s successor as Doctrine of Faith William Levada is Portuguese American (Portugal like Spain both are located in Iberian Peninsula and Colonized Latin America) his sister Dolores (who died in 2007) was Hispanic name and he lives in California (Ronald Reagan’s home state who also a state Governor before as U.S. President helps Levada’s boss’ Benedict XVI’s boss John Paul II from communist Poland and the rest of Central and Eastern Europe)
So far... - Republic of Deseret - Southron States - Union of the Great Lakes & Planes - New England, Union of the Mid-Atlantic & Mid-West, Acadia, South Florida and Aztlan
Interesting video but it doesn't take into account Asian (Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean, Indian) catholics. Even more than my fellow Hispanics, I've seen them be a very energetic force of involvement and continuity than even latino catholics - helping incorporate their cultures into parish and community life (even those of their culture that are of a different faith). Also to consider is the population moves from the places mentioned, to other geographic areas like the South and South Atlantic which while midwest areas saw decline in congregants, the aforementioned places have had parishes increase recently in size. With these moves and changes it's made the remaining ethnic makeups adapt or combine practices of the new arrivals.
Ive seen some of your other videos in which you ask for "what if" suggestions, and I was wondering if you might be able to do one on the Catholic Church aboloshing celibacy, what might lead to this and what might be the future outcomes?
It depends on when it comes to pass if it's in the modern era I nominate dr. Taylor Marshall for president and Michael Matt for vice president... Screw VC2
I recall him saying that Hispanic Catholics are losing young people at the fastest rates to Protestantism and atheism, although he was talking about the Southwest. Perhaps that could apply to elsewhere in the country, too? I remember reading elsewhere that the South and the Southwest are making up larger shares of the Catholic population over time.
@@AmericanImperium1776 Kinda, it's a theocracy where some of the figures of the American independence are worshipped as saints , Maniphest Destiny is essentially gospel and Jim Crow's laws are enforced... Essentially, Steampunk Christofascism that hits way harder today than in 2013.
@vernicejillmagsino9603 not true at all, we are a higher percentage there but we have large communities all over the country, exspeasily on both coasts
@@Eli-tj3ve because Alaska was colonized by Russian orthodox then later Orthodox immigrants came America and settled in other parts of the USA and Alaska
As a non-American all I have to say is a series of words that make a sentence conveying slight annoyance at the topic but realizing its probably more interesting for Americans.
Given the state of some Catholic institutions in America (looking at you, Trinity College), I can't help but consider some parts of Catholic America to be semiprotestant at this point.
I was born In California of Immigrant Irish Catholic parents & married Hispanic. California started to cater strongly to Hispanics by incorporating masses in Spanish & organizations. But, that excluded others. We gained many Vietnamese & Philippino Catholics along with others that were often excluded. But we still had masses in English that we could all participate & incorporated English as the unifying language. We recently moved to Southern New Mexico & Spanish is very dominate, but the native young Hispanics that are from here are not fluent Spanish speakers. Their American born parents are not either. Our granddaughter that we adopted attended the only catholic school here. Her whole class at catholic school was only English speaking despite 1/2 of them having Hispanic families. They did confirmation that was predominately in Spanish with not one of them knowing what was being said. Not one of them attends mass anymore as our daughter who used to be very devout & active in the church before we moved. She feels left out & criticized by Spanish speakers for not being Spanish proficient. She doesn’t understand the homilies or know the prayers in Spanish that are often replaced in Spanish, despite being an English mass in the small town that my husband wanted to live to be near his family. But the evangelical churches that use English are full of our Hispanic kids & are much more diverse. Too many of the non Hispanics priests are not sensitive to the diversity of language usage & seem to only care how they meet the needs of the Spanish speakers, who by the way are English proficient.
Maybe in about 200 years if and only if Orthodox Christians breed at a rate 3-5 x that of typical Catholic or Mormon families. But it would still take that long for it to come to pass. Till then get used to being second fiddle to Catholics who pretty much theologically are kissing cousins😂
*Yo Mr Z, the UK census came through and apparently UK has gone from being 90% Native White to 70%* We need to see a video on the future demographics of the UK
That is totally immoral and unacceptable put not permanent. These new groups will intermingle or move from the islands like most do in time. The uk just needs some more controls.
I come from the Atlantic region, my family is Czech and Irish descending, and basically, we followed the religion more closely always than the “culture.” I literally grew up and watched the culture just absolutely erode before my eyes. My family used to go to daily mass, mass was held daily for working people early, and the parking lot was always overflowing. It’s really sad because I never got to experience Catholicism as culture. In some respects it feels like losing a part of yourself.
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At 11:12 What’s that dog symbol mean?
@@AmericanImperium1776 Blue Dogs. They're a political faction. ua-cam.com/video/lPshrwr7wa4/v-deo.html
@@MonsieurDean Oh okay, thanks. 👍
Now we wait for the shirt to buy. Thanks for the video!
@@MonsieurDean arent blue dogs like the Rhino Democrats?
Im happy to hear RI is so catholic, my whole family was but i didnt know it was so heavily and uniquely catholic. I cant wait to get more into catholicism.
God bless you brother
but it votes overwhelmingly democrat
@@ImperiumMagistrate it does, but rhode islands politics are much more moderate, its not as bad as other states in terms of implemented leftist policies. Our favorite politician is buddy cianci, a literal mobster, that was a republican, and dems and reps in the state loved the guy. none of our local politicians have done anything in the last 20 years, people mostly just dont care and vote for the same person
@@Richard0915 RI is one of the handful of states to codify abortion with no limit
@@ImperiumMagistrate also home to the upside down twerking state senator
Now this is my America. Come brothers and sisters. DEUS VULT!!!
From a Pennsylvanian Catholic.
We’ll connect our coasts and convert the heartlands of the United States.
@@goldenrepublic6848 A New Rome shall Rise.
I’m a fellow Pennsylvanian Catholic. My parents came from the Dominican Republic, then resided in New York, till they finally came to Pennsylvania, where I was born & have been a Catholic my whole life.
Amen brother. My great grandparents came from Italy to Pennsylvania and they were Catholic. I have stayed true to the Catholic faith.
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As a Baptist I loved the Baptist video. I found this one very interesting because it kind of confirmed for me my anecdotal experience with Catholics in general, that being that it’s much more cultural for a lot of them than the average Protestant. As a Protestant for me to say “yeah that guy is one of us” he would need to show some evidence of that. In my evangelical tradition being born to Christian parents doesn’t make you a Christian. For Catholics it seems like from what I can tell that it’s a much more collective cultural experience. I’m honestly curious as to what a non-cultural Catholic thinks about Catholics who are only nominally Catholic because they are Irish or Italian or some other ethnic or family reason.
I am from a family that is culturally Catholic (Italian American) but my father has always been religious and he raised me to be religious as well, Catholics who actually practice their faith kind of joke about people who pretend to understand religion and are only culturally catholic, it is really sad that so many Catholics do not practice the Faith
@@alexsullo9855 Growing up it always seemed based on tv that Catholics were very left wing. So the graph showing that in the 90's white Catholics were an even 45% vs 45% split was a surprise. Would you say the that the left vs right among Catholics tracts to the cultural vs religious? And would this be a recent phenomenon or does it go back further?
@@alexsullo9855 tell that to Europe
@@Liethen religious catholics and cultural catholics typically split in terms of the vote. though then there is the trad/modernist dichotomony. typically religious catholics will go right, while cultural will go left.
It's strange you mention Culture because I'm from a Catholic background on my Mom's side and I don't practice as such but I feel I still class myself as Catholic and it is more in a Cultural sense!
I think it's different over here though tied more to history etc and rebellion Lol
I am a Catholic American from St. Louis and I think your analysis is really good, though I want to point out that most devout Catholics that I meet lean towards the conservative side politically while almost every liberal Catholic I've met is rather irreligious (I suspect this comes down to the abortion issue in large part). I especially agree with your last point as I have seen a large shift back towards tradition in the church among devout members. What may be surprising is that the majority of those advocating a more traditional approach are the younger generation born after the Second Vatican Council who reject the changes they grew up with. Given the youth and devotion of these younger Catholics, I think a more traditional Church is inevitable in the coming decades (at least in the United States.)
Honestly, as a culturally Catholic dude who finds the current stance on LGBTQ matters (and abortion to a lesser extent) unacceptable I have a hope that the much more conservative American bishops will lead a new schism. I’m hoping for a Catholic Church that focuses on what Jesus taught and doesn’t worry about who loves who. I’m hoping a conservative exodus would result in progress with the RC.
The same shift towards traditionalism is slowly happening in Northern Mexico/Aridia recently as well, which feeds into further internal divisions within Mexico itself. It’s surprising to see that traditionalism amongst youths is spreading throughout much of the Church across different countries semi-independently.
@@NesRuA in South America we're seeing the same thing. I've had conversations with friends in North and South America, and Europe as well. Everyone seems to agree that somehow the younger generations are rejecting the modernist changes and going back to the Tradition. I'm pretty sure it's undeniable this phenomenon is happening, I'm just not sure what the reason is. Perhaps it's the Holy Spirit acting?
@@dpg321 God willing, compa
@@bodybysmod You are anathema.
This is an interesting video, I was raised Catholic, and I'm sure any one of us will tell you even if you leave the faith you can never really stop being Catholic lol
My family comes from Quebec, which I think makes things a little bit more interesting since Quebec didn't secularize till roughly the 60's. This had relatively little effect on me, but my parents, and especially my grand parents all had exposure to OLD SCHOOL Catholic values. Both my parents have more than seven siblings and my grandparents have more than ten. Now, I'm probably going to have two kids at most and some of my family still in Quebec have no children at all. Strange how fast things change
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
Yes, i left Catholicism ages ago and following roman agnosticism but the sense of moral are still there.
Wow that’s incredibly sad
Very sad! It's the decay of our civilization. 😞
@@yonathanrakau1783so am I.
While I may be biased coming from Indiana, the Great Lakes Catholic nation has the best opportunity to become the next nexus of religion, economic, and environmental dominance in America. She is positioned in one of the best possible spawn points in the world, with freshwater, abundant farmland, and a vast transportation network of road, railroads, and rivers. A population that is diverse, steadily growing, and not experiencing a dramatic exodus or invasion. Thus letting the local governments within the 8-10 states, to focus on solutions of a possible population spike around the 2050's due to either environmental, economic or opportunity reasons. The Midwest still possesses the once mighty bones of the industrial heart of America, combined with a forward thinking group of people to pilot the Great Lakes into the 22nd century, a combined effort on all fronts could position the region for domestic and global prestige.
You guys needs to take back control of your cities though, or all those resources will be at the essential control of the secular left.
Purple Chicago is possible.
@@MonsieurDean the Second City is the Crown Jewel 💎
I'm Orthodox, but only us trad Christians can save this nation. God bless! ☦🤝✝️
@@emersonB28 The rest of the Midwest disagrees. The only thing disliked more in the Midwest than a Californian is a Chicagoan.
Are you dare implying that a Crusader state of Indiana would topple the Ohio empire?
This tracks, I'm a mid-Atlantic Italian-Irish Catholic. Calling Vatican II disappointing is an understatement. Decreased unity, decreased authority, and the people they were afraid of losing left anyways. Return to tradition, reject modernity, Latin rules.
Amen. 🙏🏻
Based Brother 💪✝️🇻🇦
I’m mid-Atlantic Franco-Italian and I don’t have a problem with V2. The execution of church modernization was going to be flawed; not that law and ritual should be “modernized” but we aren’t living in urban communes anymore. What it did was loosen the indulgent opulence and insulation of the clergy and gave the church a platform in (what would become) the *world* of instant portable communication and 4 car families that still cannot match the life’s work of a priest in an organization holding all records of and continuing 2000 years of theology. Unlike some people…
Agree 100%. Novus Ordo-Vatican II has done an inmense damage to the church.
@@Otterdisappointment I understand what you're saying the church gained, it's the same gains that were promised in the 1960s, but I don't think the data really suggests we actually made those gains. Given that more conservative churches (evangelicals and Mormons) have done far better than more liberal ones (mainline protestants) in the decades since V2, it's reasonable to assume that the Catholic Church would also have done better if it had stayed more conservative, and that the growth projections from the 1960s and which you appear to believe actually occurred, were wildly inaccurate. If you have any actual evidence that liberalizing helped the church grow or mitigate losses I'd love to hear them, because I really haven't seen any. From my point of view, we both liberalized and lost a greater share of our platform, not the other way around.
Monsieur Z I just want to say im glad you make content like this, and I appreciate that you are always making content on the weekly, keep it up 👍
I’m glad to have fans like you who appreciate my content.
For the alternate history, I’d like to see the What if Dollfuss survives from assassination and then allied with Italy to avoid Anschluss and join the allies in the WW2.
And I’d like to see the scenario that what if the Sino-Soviet conflict in 1969 caused the WW3, What if Britain annexed the US after the war of 1812, What if the USA used nukes during the Korean War, What if Korea and Japan becomes a colony of France and the US by each, and what if the Mongolian Army conquered Japan and India.
Still, I’m waiting for the new chapter of the Scar Nicholas. I want to see how Mr.H went to Siberia and crushed the Bolsheviks and Japanese and what happens to him after he meets the Tsar.
Scar Nicholas and your first suggestion I would like to see as well.
One nation. One true Church. One Kingdom. Under God.
We are inevitable.
Yo I like your channel
Hey Carson! Also Orthodox is the true church!
@@AW27007 Based take
@@jeffpickens4467 ☦😎
Can’t wait to see your Catholic America video in the future
Let's make America everything the Puritans feared it would become
I’m with you on that Frater!
Ita, frater!
the America of today rn is the America the catholics created
Catholic right wingers larping with their church when majority of the Conservative people in America are Protestant smh
@@pink_kino lol. How is a nation that rejects every single Catholic doctorine Catholic in the slightest?
Bueno los Españoles el Imperio Español estuvo décadas antes de los Ingleses puritanos .
Los Españoles eran y son Cristianos Católicos Romanos 🇻🇦✝️
Yoooo, thank you Monsieur Z! I’m sure you know that I and many others have been asking about this for some time
On another note, I recently became a 4th degree knight for the Knights of Columbus. Which gave rise in America and eventually spreading globally, have you considered this organization too in the Catholic America?
As coming from a very Catholic family in the St. Louis area, wish there was a little explanation for that portion. Since it seems to be different a bit from the Great Lakes part because it's proximity to Baptists and the Catholic Identity is set from the start so there was always a Catholic elite. Has some similarities to Louisiana and likely the closest Catholic culture to it.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
I'm also from the St. Louis area and I think part of the similarity between St. Louis and Louisiana is the heavy French influences (as the city's name would suggest) that built the Catholic culture, and the Anglo-Protestants arriving later after it was well established. Though sadly now the Church is shrinking rapidly in the area. God bless you, brother.
@@jackmcclain534 @Greg Etter, pardon my asking but I know around here where I live which is generally considered the Bible Belt those who are Catholic if they are practicing tend to be more politically conservative those who are less so tend to be politically more liberal but more important than that I was curious in your neck of the woods if traditional Latin Mass making much of a comeback. Seems to be especially despite the best efforts of dictator bergoglio I mean Pope Francis. I say that with no enthusiasm but he has certainly earned it in recent months. On a separate side-note both of my parents are neither from this area my father being from Southern Louisiana and my mother being from New York City specifically of the ethnic archetypes mentioned that are predominant. Of course in the case of Louisiana don't forget that with the development of areas that were previously unusable swampland oh, much of that certainly was made usable through the sweat toil and sometimes even blood of Irishmen.
@@eddieschwab864 As the Pope has restricted the use of the Latin Mass so much, it's hard to tell how much enthusiasm these is for it. There are only a couple of places in the Archdiocese that are doing it and I suspect they won't be able to for long unless they are Oratories or churches run by religious orders rather than parishes. I have noticed more traditional practices making a comeback, especially among younger Catholics, in my own parish, however.
@Jack McClain well for instance where I go regularly has been turned into a mission church it previously was a parish. Another one that I periodically attend depending on my goings-on and which one I'm able to get to quicker I'm not sure if it's been turned to an oratory Mission or whatnot I've not heard specifics but the one I do attend regularly is bititual, having two alternates between tlm one weekend and ordinary form in Latin the other weekend. The other one is sometimes harder to get too but it's exclusively tlm at least at that mass time. There's early morning mass in ordinary form at the one I regularly attend but we strictly go to 2 p.m. mass on Sunday afternoon because that's when tlm is offered every other weekend and we just bite the bullet the other weekend on ordinary form in Latin. Although one of the priests that strictly did the ordinary form and Latin has been reassigned as of the last week or so so I'm hoping the one that does the tlm might do it more often. And once in a blue moon I know it's dirty word even amongst many traditionalist we even sometimes go to the sspx. Compared to fraternity of Saint Peter is somewhat ubiquitous in this part of the country and Institute of Christ the King is virtually nonexistent. Both churches we make it to most often are Diocesan,
The way I would describe it is that in New England, Catholicism isn't the meat, but it's one of the prominent seasonings. The same goes for Puritanism, which is quite a blend considering how aggressively anti-Catholic the Puritans were. To make those compatible you have to relinquish feelings of intense religious fervor, especially in densely populated areas (which most of New England is). That process began prior to the arrival of Catholic European immigrants, but was placed under higher pressure from then onward. Another layer I'd add is Boston being more Irish Catholic whereas New York is more Italian Catholic. I think Irish outward humility is more compatible with Puritanism than Italian outward boldness, and is one of the distinguishing factors of the two regions. I mean, it was like that anyway before those waves of immigration, but they added the critical mass to it, so now it's difficult to imagine a glitzy Boston and reserved New York.
Good job I've been looking forward to this one. There are 2 regions of the country that you haven't touched on yet, Mormon Utah (former Deseret) and atheistic Cascadia. Could you do a video on both?
It'd be interesting to project the conflicting "claims" of these nations after the series is concluded, go over which disputes are likely to get... ugly, and which ones will resolve peacefully.
He finally did it
I’m getting confirmed today and this is what I wake up to. We love to see it folks
How embarrassing
@@joaoescudo1561 For you, yes.
I pray that you had a wonderful and holy celebration of the Sacrament of Confirmation 🙏
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel
Congratulations!
Well many "catholics" are not really Catholics
Unfortunately very true.....
You can say that about any religion.
I like the immediate sponsor instead of a sponsor in the middle of the video.👍
The map has a few major omissions. Both Mobile, Alabama and the Louisville, KY/Southern Indiana areas are extremely Catholic. The presence is felt even today though the large number of Catholic churches and Catholic schools in each area. For example, there are fifty-nine Catholic elementary and high schools in Louisville. In addition, southern Indiana is the site of Saint Meinrad Seminary, one of the largest such institutions in the United States. The Catholic influence remains very strong in Mobile, to the extent that even public schools adopted a parochial school-style uniform code and the entire school system follows the Catholic calendar for days off.
I live down in Southern Kentucky right in the Bible Belt did not realize that there were that many Catholic schools in Louisville unless that's for the Archdiocese of Louisville as a whole.
In many ways, Louisville is not Kentucky. I attended the University of Louisville, and I can tell you that Louisville is culturally, economically, and socially divorced from much of the rest of the state.
@@javiermoretti1825 idk if I would go that far...
@@eddieschwab864 I would. I was born and raised in the area. It’s my home.
@@javiermoretti1825 fair enough I just don't see that much of a difference other than the size of the town I live in Bowling Green third largest city in the state
Independent Catholic Kingdom of Michigan is my dream!
Michigan as a nation state would fail. Only in a dream sadly.
You wish.. it's mostly protestant and its culturally similar to New England and New York...
Let’s go Catholic Michigander gang
Only 20percent protestant@@steve19811
As a practicing Catholic been waiting for this video. Vivat Jesus!
Same
Ask and ye shall receive (which is funny considering I'm not Catholic). Let's see now: Five Catholic Americas, a Lutheran America, a Baptist America, and a Mormon America. I'm very much enjoying this series, BTW. What I'd like to know is, where would my home state of Colorado wind up?
"Spiritual" America
@@jackmcclain534 I wish I could favorite a comment
@Monsieur Z THANK YOU! Finally! I have long waited for this video to be released so I could watch it! It was such a great video and informative. You did well creating this video! I look forward to more Catholic related videos. DEUS VULT!!! ⚔️ 🛡️ 🏴 📿 ⛪️🛐
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
Imagine not being Catholic
Ikr.
It’s pretty great not being Catholic, using the KJV the word of God is pretty great!
For realllll
@@TrentsPoliticalyour bible doesn't translate the word Tyrant cause King James feared that it was gonna be used to criticize the monarch.
@@SoleLime. it doesn’t say that because it’s not in the word of God.
OMG the Catholic America, now that’s a spirit! 😊
GOOD, they don't deserve to be Catholic on the BEST can be catholic
more pedo priest, no thank you. mind you I do that hate the people who worship.
*It was me, Barry...*
Al Smith (the first Catholic presidential candidate) is probably the most unknown but important figures in US history…
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel
Has a dinner named after him every year during the election cycle put on by the Archdiocese of New York.
He’s the reason NYC has the Empire State Building.
Edmund Muskie is JPII’s AL Smith 1st Pole to lead Power country that both (the other is Al Smith) are lost
Archbishop Sheen smiles from his grave
@@darthkillhoon he smiles from Heaven!
The emblem on the flag is on point. Where to aquire?
I’ll share it on Facebook later
Until now, I would have never guessed the largest religious group in NS were Catholics. I grew up there, and even have Catholic family, but there are far more Protestant churches than Catholic ones.
Its cuz protestants are, by definition, a fractious bunch.
NS?
NE*
@@Eidolon1andOnly Nova Scotia
I imagine It's because protestants have many more denominations, you can have 1big catholic church per town, but for every protestant denomination you need a separate church building
I haven't watched the video yet, but I know I'm going to love it
Growing up in the suburbs of New York City; it should be noted the areas around New York City including parts of Connecticut and New Jersey are not overwhelmingly Catholic anymore. Jews have had a significant presence since the early 1900s; Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists today also make up a significant population. There are more Jews living in the areas around New York City than anywhere else besides Israel.
Steubenville, Ohio should be mentioned. It’s like the nexus of contemporary American Catholic cultural development
As a born-and-raised Catholic, very interesting video.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
@@terraconensis2317
You understand nothing about Christianity, or of Babylon.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 No You only not Catholicism so you know nothing about Christianity. Roman pagans replaced Christianity with paganism. Priest eucharist bread sacrifice, celibacy, Mother Goddess worship[ who you call Mary], God Man King[ who you call the pope] Read the Bible and learn Christianity before its too late.
@@terraconensis2317
Learn how to type like a human, and maybe stop reading so many Chick Tracts.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 Im sure John Wycliffe existed before UA-cam channels.
You forgot about the Catholics that predated Maryland in Florida and other Spanish colonies
Yo another great video! Keep the good content.
Thanks, pally!
I’m a catholic of German heritage in Florida but family is from Louisville Kentucky. Ancestors are from Baden and Bavaria
Hoover’s ancestors is from Baden but he’s protestant
@@vernicejillmagsino9603 are you talking about president hoover?
@@bartholomus9548 Yes Herbert Hoover the 31st President from 1929-1933 was Quaker Protestant (the other is Nixon German from his mother side who was Vice President under the other German American President Eisenhower) the Pope on his Presidency was Pius XI from 1922 to 1939
Your parents move to Florida from Kentucky or one of your parents is from Kentucky the the is other from Florida
I think the Midwestern Catholic nation has the most hope in the future. The Midwest is more family oriented and more socially conservative than the other regions while Trump style of economics seems more attractive here since the workers in this region have been betrayed by the corrupt establishment in D.C that outsourced jobs in the rust belt to other nations. If the Midwest and Mid Atlantic regions unite under traditional Catholicism then this region would be the bedrock of Catholicism and classical conservatism in America. Also, New England is too neoliberal and the South West has little to no connection to the historic American nation and the south is mainly protestant and classical liberal so the Midwest is really the most likely place for the start of a Catholic America.
You're not understanding the mid west. There's maybe 1 (if any) catholic churches in any given county in the Midwest. There's usually 4 to 5 Baptist churches alone. Evangelism is the highest concentration of Christianity in America. It's very rare for a protestants convert to Catholicism, the reverse happens constantly.
Exactly! Couldn’t agree more with you on your finely made point. Enough said. Deus Vult!!! Viva Christo Rey!!! Ave Christus Rex!
@@fathead8933 i converted from Catholicism to Presbyterianism and i was very Traditionalist Catholic and so were some of my friends but we became Reformed Christians cause of our strict Augustinian theology
So it's true that this weird Catholic far right that seems just synthetic and more of a cope over Protestant institutions being subverted and this veil of order in the Catholic Church(there isnt really any aswell) is attractive along with pretty mass but at the end of the day it's really not rooted in the Christian religion itself but a need to belong to something and something thats really old
@fathead8933 I am a convert from Protestantism to Catholicism. I can assure you that the Evangelical heretics will not be the ones who will save America. America is more Protestant and always has been but hopefully it will become more Catholic in the future.
@@pink_kino Bro, did you really just say that Catholicism isn't rooted in Christian tradition or Augustine theology when both of these things are extremely Catholic. Also, people aren't converting to the one true church just because of aesthetics. They are returning home to Rome because it is the truth.
Homeboy didn't mention St. Louis once.
Secularization is the beast that is trying to take us all. Keep the faith, Brothers. Through Christ we can weather the storm.✝️
Secularism is threat to no one's faith. Are you confusing secularism with marxism? Secularism is quite the objectively humane route for nations
@@miguelpadeiro762 A secular state? Perhaps in that sense its not as dangerous, debates can be made though. The intituional influence of a chruch on the state has been a common issue in eariler years. But a secular chruch? The issue mearly switched sides. The institutional influence of the state on the chruch is the modern issue, and that is harrowing for the faith. That is what the first amendment in America pertains too, and is the true meaning of seperation of Chruch and State. What is and isnt objectivly humane is irrelevant to the conversation. And yes, Marxism is dangerous to both Chruch and State. It is also notable Atheistic.
One slight flaw with your map. Much wider area than then now but the first Catholic Diocese west of the Allegheny Mountains was Bardstown Kentucky.
Long awaited (& much appreciated haha)
I will say, given that in many of the midwestern states Catholicism is only the plurality, could the protestant populations pose a potential threat to any catholic nation (before y'all say it I am a protestant, but I am curious though about how that could change things).
Possibly, though in my heart of hearts I would hope that Catholics and Protestants can in the near future set aside theological or cultural squabbles to unite against the common enemy (neo-marxism) and I am fully confident that any animosity between the two groups could be resolved peacefully.
@@orangedalmatian I would hope so aswell, however if the nation’s core identity is Catholicism and not simply the broader hand of Christianity, then it could very well be torn apart.
Well done sir can you do an Eastern Orthodox one please
Is there even enough of a Eastern Orthodox demographic in any part of the country for that to be able to incorporate? Besides except for the Filioque, Catholic and Orthodox theology virtually identical, in terms of saints, Mariology Doctrine on the real presence and the hypostatic relationship of Christ being fully God and fully man. For that matter, while a Baptists would easily roll their eyes at the notion of the real presence or anything to do with the Blessed Mother or as y'all call her the theotokos, pretty sure they would agree with Catholics and Orthodox on the hypostatic relationship of Christ being fully God and fully man.
Perhaps a slight edit to incorporate orthodox demographically in with the Catholics because pretty sure many of the behaviors where Orthodox are found are similar to that of Catholics. Meaning those who are particularly religious typically vote Republican those who are not vote Democrat for instance amongst other things
Hey, I love the video, as a catholic who is studying catholic theology i surest that you would look over the catholic doctrines more because a lot is wrongfully presented ( almost a protestantsyrawman), I do not think it was intentional but I would just clarify- especially on the priest and people relationship and what Vatican 2 really said. Otherwise top notch.
Hey Monsieur. Can you make a video on how a post second civil war USA might look like? I've been looking at all your America videos and wondered what a post war America might look like.
What if China and the Soviet Union fought each other ?
Do an Anglican/Episcopal America! I’m curious to see this because there were a lot of Anglican signers of the Declaration of Independence; but we’ve always been a minority, until the last century or so we were mostly the church of the upper class of English aristocratic descendant.
I think there are only a couple million of y’all so he probably won’t
A man can dream.... Viva Christo Rey
Que viva!
We'll have to wait and see what the future holds.
A slight quibble. The Catholic culture in St. Louis, Kansas City, and Omaha is much more closely related to New Orleans than it is to the Great Lakes.
You did not mention, there is a substantial Catholic subculture in the South, that's not necessarily Hispanic. My theory is that since the south is ethnically Scottish or Irish, there was plenty of holdover from the old world. One of the Confederacy's first Brigadier Generals was a Catholic, and the Confederacy sent priests to both Ireland and the Vatican to act as diplomats. Famous southern writer Flannery O'Connor, yup Catholic. Any city that was not touched by union troops will likely have Catholic Churches that predate 1865. (There were some good reasons southern Catholics staunchly supported the Confederacy!) To use my own state as an example, the Union failed to take Selma, so there are a handful of old Catholic churches in the city. In northern Alabama in the middle of cow country, you can find an Italian style monastery chilling out on the countryside, me and my dad had visited there a couple times.
@Prasanth Thomas I'll have to look it up. but I think you are right.
I think your theory holds up mostly, but the largest ancestry among white Southerners is English last I checked. Before the 'American' ethnicity was added in 1990, in the 1980 census the majority of white Southerners recorded being English in origin, followed by Irish (theorized to mostly be Scots-Irish, which is ethnically Scottish and English since they were mostly Protestant and few Catholics).
I also think the bulk of Scots are historically Protestant, since the Highland Clearances back in Great Britain cleared the Scottish Highlands of the mostly Gaelic-speaking, Catholic highlanders, who fled for Ireland and the Hebrides Islands.
Can you make a video about what if Maurice Bavaud had succeeded with his plan against A.H. in 1938? Who would be the next leader of Germany? Would Germany take a more pragmatic strategy in it's foreign policy or would Germany still start an unwinnable war in 1939?
If he'd succeeded it also depends on which if any of the military branches stood behind them in doing so at that stage. Although often regarded militarily as part of the Inner Circle Admirals like Karl Doenitz, Generals like Erwin Rommel or Von Beck or Von Paulus never were members of the National Socialist Party and if they'd seen things coming as it ended up, probably any one of those would have acted to remove him. Some people try to contradict that with Doenitz for succeeding Hitler in what was a rump government to sign the surrender, but that was mainly because he was the highest-ranking surviving member of the military
Catholics who hold to the 5 principle precepts of the Church vote ~90% GOP
Steubenville Ohio should absolutely be on this map. It is more Catholic than the Vatican.
Certainly more Catholic than the Vatican at this point that's for darn sure but that's a pretty low bar
An important thing to note, slavery would not be prevalent in a Catholic America as the Catholic Church was vehemently against chattel slavery (hence why the North, which was way more Catholic was abolitionist). This would result in a LOT less African-Americans ever existing. Another big change would probably be the US being less isolationist as the Catholic America might want to participate in more affairs
the abolitionism was rooted in the Puritans, and thats not really true cause the Spanish Empire found ways around it and the Portuguese Empire just didnt care
I don't know how anti it was in areas where it was legal at the time and there were plenty of areas that were hat if not predominantly Catholic had even a sizable Catholic minority. A great many of them likewise participated in the peculiar Institution
Fun Fact: The most popular Religion in Native Indian reservations is Roman Catholicism.
This is because of the polytheistic heresy of the Roman Catholics being more similar to native religions.
@@otterconnor942 Catholicism is monotheistic
Most American Indians are Protestants because of Anglo Americans then Catholics
@@otterconnor942 this is a form of cope
For the mid Atlantic area you forgot to talk about the Italian influence on the region
is there a reason eastern Cape Breton was excluded from new Britain? they aren't really culturally seperate from western cape breton, or eastern mainland Nova Scotia
Although sects of Christianity did use to despise each other (Tudor England lol) I haven't seemed to notice that now. If the US splits, it will more likely be ideology or culture-driven, as opposed to religion-driven.
That said I'm not religious, and I won't claim to know a lot about inter-Christian relations.
Imo they were fine with each other until idiots online started inciting conflict between the groups
Many Catholics wouldn’t kill Protestants now for leaving Rome. We just want them to return to Christs church, they left to follow traditions of men 500 years ago and have deteriorated to Ted talks and strip mall churches while their historical ones die off.
Catholic America W 💪✝️🇻🇦. Deus Vult and Viva Christo Rey.
Viva Christo Rey!
As a Catholic, thank you!
Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. They do not believe the Bible is the perfect word of YHWH God. It is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 13,17 and the Popes are AntiChrist, the Little of Horn of Daniel.
@@terraconensis2317 get lost Protty
@@codyj.braunva5406 Catholicism is not Christianity, it is Roman Babylonian paganism with biblical names. Roman pagans replaced Christianity with paganism. Priest eucharist bread sacrifice, Idolatry, celibacy, Mother Goddess worship[ who you call Mary], God Man King[ who you call the pope] Read the Bible and learn Christianity
@@terraconensis2317 so true brother
Do Orthodox America next
I’d be interested to see if Z can make that work. It’s very small heheh
I can't imagine this working. It is very very difficult to find actual statistics on Orthodoxy in America due to the lack of communication between jurisdictions.
That being said, I see Orthodoxy slowly growing, and taking over the most traditionalist blocks of American Christians despite Orthodoxy being so foreign.
@@urubissoldat5452 Orthodoxy is seen as the same as Protestants in the U.S.
@@gamervox1707 I am not sure what you mean by this exactly, I can assure you that most people do not see Orthodoxy as protestant or even that similar.
@@urubissoldat5452 It is not seen as different as any other church in general. I am just using protests as example. The cathoic church has more negative things going on other evangelical and yohava whatever their names.
I mean, probably not, but Deus Vult is always a cool thing to do on a slow saturday.
Note for me: 2:20 Differences between catholic and protestant culture
I hope so.
Mon Z: “Is Catholic America inevitable?” Baptists: “Can we colonize it?”
Next video: “is orthodox america inevitable ?“
Would be interesting especially since the faith is growing slowly but surely especially amongst the more educated african americans since it makes more sense than the various Protestant faiths
And it has a growing right wing base, breaking into the Right Wing Christian collation, similar to that of the Mormons
@@fepper5980 true their number is really small right now, but we have to considerate that the Catholic Church is becoming more and more liberal each day so the Traditional Latin Mass could be fully replaced by some novus-ordo like thing in the future years if the Catholic Church keeps doing what they are already doing
@@raul9648 people care too much about aesthetics which is the problem with people going to Orthodox
Imagine a orthodox states of America
Russian Alaska
I think we need ship in Serbs and Bulgarians in to the states
Would be a dream
We still need to red pill the arminans since there the one that first turned to christananty before Rome
@@Subject82 😳
I take severe umbrage to the characterization of Catholics as socialistic & pro-immigration chaos! I’m Catholic and I’m fiscally Objectivist Capitalist & a pre-14 amendment immigration policy.
I understand the frustration, but you are a minority in your circles.
I’m a Lutheran myself and come from a very orthodox and high church background. Yet the ELCA and their lesbian pastors represent me when most people think of Lutherans.
The rot of the world has infected every denomination of the Church for membership numbers and financial gain. We must collectively course correct from within with the tools that God gave us.
In the past when lots of Catholics were immigrating it made sense to be pro-immigration, but that has long since ended
@Fepper 1. Hierarchy & collectivism/commie labor unions/redistribution of wealth are 2 different things!
2. Long before Martin Luther theologians in Spain exploring the medieval concept of “just price” concluded that so many different factors worked to determine it that only divine omniscience could grasp them all; the best human recourse was to let the market decide.
@Fepper Capitalism though was against the rich taking so much power as with the Progressive Era and Anti-Trust. Capitalism doesnt mean you have too bootlick conglomerates.
@Prasanth Thomas Not protestant just ⬜️
Pope: Ah yes, its all coming together.
I would recommend reading the Vatican II documents. It was not about modernizing the Church like you think. It was about opening the windows for some fresh air after WWII, not throwing out the furniture.
The documents were but the spirit of Vatican 2 is what thoroughly messed things up. For more info check out dr. Taylor Marshall The Remnant newspaper or church militant
@@eddieschwab864 Agreed, the "spirit of Vatican II" was shameful.
I'm a born and raised Catholic, in fact my whole family something i notice with Catholics is there more poltically divided than Mormons, Protestants, Baptists and Evangelicals which are broadly Republicans while Catholics don't really have a alliance with either The Democrats or Republicans
I've noticed that too. Protestants, Orthodox and Mormons tend to be Republican, Catholics and agnostics seem to be split, while atheists, Jews, Muslims and other non-Christians tend to be Democrat (which is ironic for Muslims, since Islam is the most conservative major religion on the planet).
Michael Dukakis a Greek Orthodox is Democrat
5:27 There is no Latino Cardinal from the USA but Benedict XVI’s successor as Doctrine of Faith William Levada is Portuguese American (Portugal like Spain both are located in Iberian Peninsula and Colonized Latin America) his sister Dolores (who died in 2007) was Hispanic name and he lives in California (Ronald Reagan’s home state who also a state Governor before as U.S. President helps Levada’s boss’ Benedict XVI’s boss John Paul II from communist Poland and the rest of Central and Eastern Europe)
Hello everyone
Is Anabaptist America inevitable?
(Amish, Old order mennonite, United mennonite church, mennonite church usa and hutterites)
What if the First Balkan War became a World War ?
Uh it did lol
So far...
- Republic of Deseret
- Southron States
- Union of the Great Lakes & Planes
- New England, Union of the Mid-Atlantic & Mid-West, Acadia, South Florida and Aztlan
Interesting video but it doesn't take into account Asian (Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean, Indian) catholics. Even more than my fellow Hispanics, I've seen them be a very energetic force of involvement and continuity than even latino catholics - helping incorporate their cultures into parish and community life (even those of their culture that are of a different faith).
Also to consider is the population moves from the places mentioned, to other geographic areas like the South and South Atlantic which while midwest areas saw decline in congregants, the aforementioned places have had parishes increase recently in size. With these moves and changes it's made the remaining ethnic makeups adapt or combine practices of the new arrivals.
We have that diversity in our parish and I love it! Love the people, too!
Ive seen some of your other videos in which you ask for "what if" suggestions, and I was wondering if you might be able to do one on the Catholic Church aboloshing celibacy, what might lead to this and what might be the future outcomes?
It depends on when it comes to pass if it's in the modern era I nominate dr. Taylor Marshall for president and Michael Matt for vice president...
Screw VC2
YASS!!!!!
bro can u tell us about ur soundtracks
When discussing the mid-Atlantic, you completely glossed over the growing Hispanic population that would keep the Catholic Church prevalent
I recall him saying that Hispanic Catholics are losing young people at the fastest rates to Protestantism and atheism, although he was talking about the Southwest. Perhaps that could apply to elsewhere in the country, too? I remember reading elsewhere that the South and the Southwest are making up larger shares of the Catholic population over time.
@@neildalessandro8196 yeah that’s only in the southwest. The majority of east coast Hispanics I know are religious Catholics
When Bioshock Infinite suddenly turns real...
Is Columbia Catholic in the game?
@@rogeliovaldez6594 Okay thanks, that’s what I thought. They aren't Catholic.
@@AmericanImperium1776 Kinda, it's a theocracy where some of the figures of the American independence are worshipped as saints , Maniphest Destiny is essentially gospel and Jim Crow's laws are enforced...
Essentially, Steampunk Christofascism that hits way harder today than in 2013.
Southeast is seeing quite an increase of Catholics from people moving from the northeast and immigrants from Latin America
Pls do Orthodox America next
Most of them lives in Alaska
@vernicejillmagsino9603 not true at all, we are a higher percentage there but we have large communities all over the country, exspeasily on both coasts
@@Eli-tj3ve because Alaska was colonized by Russian orthodox then later Orthodox immigrants came America and settled in other parts of the USA and Alaska
@vernicejillmagsino9603 hi, yes I know. I'm from the Church. Most of us are not in Alaska, historically also very few Russians settled in the colony
Do Orthodox Alaska next
Because Russia an Orthodox Country was Colonized Alaska
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13:30 how exactly is it relatively young when Hispanics settled these lands before New Amsterdam became New York
The Dutch settled in New York are Protestants while Hispanics are Catholics later Dutch Catholics came to New York alongside with Dutch Protestants
As a non-American all I have to say is a series of words that make a sentence conveying slight annoyance at the topic but realizing its probably more interesting for Americans.
Given the state of some Catholic institutions in America (looking at you, Trinity College), I can't help but consider some parts of Catholic America to be semiprotestant at this point.
Protestants have absorbed the catholics and have been for a hundred years.
How about what if the Space Race never ended?
I was born In California of Immigrant Irish Catholic parents & married Hispanic. California started to cater strongly to Hispanics by incorporating masses in Spanish & organizations. But, that excluded others. We gained many Vietnamese & Philippino Catholics along with others that were often excluded. But we still had masses in English that we could all participate & incorporated English as the unifying language. We recently moved to Southern New Mexico & Spanish is very dominate, but the native young Hispanics that are from here are not fluent Spanish speakers. Their American born parents are not either. Our granddaughter that we adopted attended the only catholic school here. Her whole class at catholic school was only English speaking despite 1/2 of them having Hispanic families. They did confirmation that was predominately in Spanish with not one of them knowing what was being said. Not one of them attends mass anymore as our daughter who used to be very devout & active in the church before we moved. She feels left out & criticized by Spanish speakers for not being Spanish proficient. She doesn’t understand the homilies or know the prayers in Spanish that are often replaced in Spanish, despite being an English mass in the small town that my husband wanted to live to be near his family. But the evangelical churches that use English are full of our Hispanic kids & are much more diverse. Too many of the non Hispanics priests are not sensitive to the diversity of language usage & seem to only care how they meet the needs of the Spanish speakers, who by the way are English proficient.
As a Louisianan, Catholics down here kind of mimic the broader “Southern” tendencies of being anti government services in general.
Sweet observation, I’d imagine part of that also has to do with them being something of an outlier culture that feels more secure in a freer society
Is a Orthodox America inevitable?
Is a Amish America inevitable?
Idk, ydk, let's find out!
Maybe in about 200 years if and only if Orthodox Christians breed at a rate 3-5 x that of typical Catholic or Mormon families. But it would still take that long for it to come to pass. Till then get used to being second fiddle to Catholics who pretty much theologically are kissing cousins😂
*Yo Mr Z, the UK census came through and apparently UK has gone from being 90% Native White to 70%*
We need to see a video on the future demographics of the UK
I second this
British deserved that,
They're so much replaceable
@@kingdomofbird8174lol no they didn't and no they aren't.
That is totally immoral and unacceptable put not permanent. These new groups will intermingle or move from the islands like most do in time. The uk just needs some more controls.
RIP Britannia. Britannia will never rule the waves again.
I come from the Atlantic region, my family is Czech and Irish descending, and basically, we followed the religion more closely always than the “culture.” I literally grew up and watched the culture just absolutely erode before my eyes. My family used to go to daily mass, mass was held daily for working people early, and the parking lot was always overflowing. It’s really sad because I never got to experience Catholicism as culture. In some respects it feels like losing a part of yourself.