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I speak for everyone when I say Tokyo Ghoul needs a brotherhood version but we can keep Unravel as the OST
Exactly. It would be the perfect anime adaptation.
the music in Tokyo Ghoul is amazing, can’t deny that
@@cherobu2288 still mediocre compared to Bleach OST
@@Stagfire222 Yo, when I listened to "Here to Stay" after many years, I almost teared up
Funnily when i was reading re as it was coming out each week, i remembered reading an interview ishida did when the anime came out and he actually choose the artist who made unravel so once more ishida picked one of the best parts of the anime
I didn't expect a Tokyo Ghoul video after so many years
Me neither
@just i c e why the hell u bots doing this shit
on god i couldn't believe my eyes when i saw gigguk uploaded a video about tokyo ghoul of all things
Indeed I'm impressed
@@huckpo283 right, it's just so odd
I’d literally do anything for a Tokyo ghoul brotherhood
Tokyo Ghoul Re:Birth❤️📌
@@astraeus5 yess
Yeah man I watched the anime about a year ago and I'm reading the manga right now and I must say that the manga is a masterpiece and the anime is just as bad
#TokyoGhoulBrotherhood
This and Akame ga Kill need the Brotherhood treatment.
@@warcodertrue man
Imagine how popular it would have been if the Anime actually followed the Manga 100%.
The anime was bad because the manga was bad... Re never should have happened and the season 2 deviation didn't matter because the content the manga covered for that part was only Kaneki and Banjou's relationship...
The entire manga fell apart after Yamori died
@@Digger-Nick wdym re was way better cuz it had more plot and complex characters
@Mugen No Juunin really? I kinda liked it back when they just left us on a cliffhanger for like 3 years
@@Digger-Nick 🤡
The worst part of Tokio Ghoul was Season 3+ where it did in a extreme speed up and follow the Manga. But even if they made it properly the Story itself (that came from the Manga) was trash. 90% of ppl dying coming back as Ghouls is so beyond bad :,D Not following the Manga was the right way, and deciding to go back to Manga at Season 3 was the beginning of the end. Season 1 and 2 were beautiful and close to art, everything after that belonged in the trash.
Ishida's art style is just gorgeous to look at. The cover arts are still some of the best I've seen in manga.
are there any recommendations for this guy's work other than Tokyo ghoul?
I gave season 1 a rewatch and wanted to read the manga for obvious reasons. But the art seems kinda messy and plainly bad at that point😕😕
@@ikmaen he "recently" began a new manga called Choujin X. ~30 ish chapters out at the moment of writing this and while it's a tone quite different from TG, its still great and features his amazing art.
Ishida's art style is so great. I recognize the drawings in a single glance.
The cover art was one of the reasons I started reading it haha
I'm gonna keep screaming for a Tokyo Ghoul anime reboot till I die. This needs the FMAB treatment
OMG YES
At least with Full metal the first series was essentially to diverged into an anime only later on in the series because the anime caught up with the manga. At least with brotherhood it followed the entire manga. That's why we got the satisfying ending because it again followed the manga.
i got a lot of time left. i will try to get the reboot even if its after my death.
@@oOZellzimaOo The Promised Neverland part 1 is one of the greatest anime series of all time, there is nothing to improve
Its gnna surpass fmab fs
The panels in the manga went crazy, they had some creativity pumping all throughout the series
Did you read it on a website? If so can I ask for the name, I wanna read it too with the best translation possible!!
@@kirabean5441 I ended up reading it on 2 different sites that being Manganato or something like that and Comick. Both TG and TG:re are on both so it’s up to you
@@uwuwithcthulhu2300 Thanks! It's difficult finding a good translation, I wanna read the whole story without anything being lost.
It was hard to follow tbh the fight scenes layout and fluidity were pretty bad
@@uwuwithcthulhu2300 Comick is great! I usually read on mangareader or mangadex, but Comick's quality for TG was incomparably better for some reason.
Tokyo ghoul got the “let’s butcher this down to be TV-14 and only 12 episodes per season” treatment. Every scene in the anime is a huge time skip.
I even had the misfortune of seeing it censored, which makes it unbearable to watch
@@malade3000 Do yourself a favor and read the manga or watch a vidoe essay if you don't have time for all that
I mean lots of tvs and movies shorten a lot of their source material to make it fit, that's just how to works.
Now I'm not saying that's a good thing, I'm just saying how it is.
Although makes you wonder what would've happened if they had managed to get all of the story in properly.
@@tvheadcontent Um you realize HALF of the manga is a massive time skip and spirals into a complete trainwreck because the writer completely gave up...
@@Digger-Nick Valid points? NOT ON MY WATCH! I am a anime elitist and I can never be wrong! You are just a bigot and using hate speech at me. :(
Anyway, Kirito from SAO is a well rounded character with a great personality.
(for real though your name made me snort loud af lol, this is a joke reply. Good point on your part )
The " *I don't want to die* " and "I am... a Ghoul" panels both gave me goosebumps. Holy shit, both are terrifying.
I am Tokyo ghoul
The "I don't want to die" hits even more once you know what that character turns into and what his entire arc develops
"it's ghouling time" was better
@@diamondspeek what happens to that guy and who is he?
@@dubbyplays My guy, that's the main character...
Finally us Tokyo Ghoul manga readers are being validated
Bro I literally have a tg manga pfp that's how much I have been waiting for recognition
Only waited 9 years for this shit
They changed so much from the manga and no one believed me when i said the manga was better
@@katharsis101- same here
Finally
It was so nice that Tokyo Ghoul isn’t another cheap “humanity is the real villain” story like Elfen Lied or somethin. It proposes multiple questions about the existence and survival of two species that cannot coexist and says “now how do you think this’ll work? Cuz I sure as hell don’t know”.
I just finished the first manga series, and it’s easily become one of my favorites.
I mean, it is. It all started with dumbass human cannibals.
Elfen Lied...
Keep going, the ending of “Tokyo Ghoul re:” is well worth it!
I think it’s a bold thing to think “these two species can’t coexist” when lions coexist with zebra’s and have for thousands of years.
@@orppranator5230lions and zebras my favorite anime characters
I still pray to this day that Tokyo Ghoul gets a good adaptation
There's hope reboots for animes usually take about 10 years before they're even thought of
@@rishisaaptachaAoT ending got adapted and that was a dumpster fire
@@revolioclockbergjr.6780 no it wasnt lol
I thought tokyo ghoul season 1 and 2 where great. I actually thought season 2 was great to.
I can understand why people say season 3 and 4 suck but not season 2. Can someone explain why season 2 is so hated?
@@JosephGelfuso-id5pm Season two is hated because it's basically just a fanfic of the anime writers and has no resemblance to the story of the manga whatsoever. This is especially bad because season 3 and 4 continue completely normally as to how they did in the manga which means that anime onlys basically missed like 90% of the context for these seasons. If you want an example of just how drastic these changes were just know that in the manga Kaneki founded his own group that went against aogiri while in the anime he just fucking joined them
Never forget that Studio Pierrot jammed all 179 chapters of TG:Re into a single anime season. An entire arc could start and end within half an episode
They gave more shits about Boruto than Kaneki. But at least, they can do edgy stuff like Akudama Drive.
He said "i am the Tokyo Ghoul"
@@jakey14344 and boruto still became a shit show. sadge
Yeah they really, REALLY shafted TG with that. Not only did the anime turn a beautiful and tragic manga into a generic battle Shonen seasoned with edginess, but they rushed the hell out of it too... After I eventually read the manga, it made me genuinely pissed off at how badly it was adapted and how much characterization and depth was so carelessly left out of the anime.
Tokyo ghoul: re ❌
Tokyo ghoul: highly compressed ✔️
As someone who is a big fan of Tokyo Ghoul, it really sucks how a lot of people never gave the manga a shot because of the bad taste the anime left. I love the art style and the emotion that's conveyed in the manga. I cried my eyes out when the mom was killed protecting her daughter, and as a kid back then who only have a mom left as well, that shit hit way harder just imagining something like that happening to me and my sister. I love how it isnt black and white, and shows both sides of the story like you say.
The Manga is amazing. TG needs a proper faithful anime remake.
Aight I wanna give the manga a shot
Ive watched s1
from where should I start the manga?
@@Arun-gl6wz The beginning. The anime and manga are completely different, 100%.
@@Arun-gl6wz If the anime is like C tier the manga is S+ top tier, that's how good the manga is compared to the anime
simp men up
Fun fact white hair is described often attributed to lose of innocence. Which is just another reason why the panel/scene hits hard moreso for the manga. Because in poor old ken's case he had not only his mind broken almost beyond repair, was torture for who knows how long during each session during the 10 days Jason held Ken, and much much more
Marie-Antuanette Syndrome, yeah, when extreme stress can cause one's hair to lose melanin at very quirk speed, the late queen only needed one night, if I'm not mistaken
@@ninimtvarelashvili3406 i always thought this was just a myth and never really researched/proven
@@Squitox3 It does exist in Medicine, scientists just don't know exactly what is the pathophysiology, but they speculate that it could be either autoimmune disease and could be related to alopecia somehow. It's also called canitis subica or Thomas More Syndrome.
@@ninimtvarelashvili3406Melanin doesn't spontaneously dissappear from already grown hair, though. Stress and other illnesses can cause you to grey prematurely, but that means that hair starts growing grey at the roots. You can see it in very long dark hair on elderly who haven't dyed their hair: The ends of the hair still have colour, and colour starts lessening in stages. No-One goes grey or white in a day, not even when you are very sick.
@@ninimtvarelashvili3406 definitely doesn't happen that fast. I got some white hairs months after my most stressful times. Yeah stress causes white hairs but they need to grow to be visible like that.
Still going to say it. TG is one of the best manga I have ever read. The nuance and details Ishida put into the work is incredible. His cover Arts are amazing. Still to this day I want to see a TG faithful remake.
Hard agree! One of the better manga I've read over all so far. I've read a few, too. I'm currently reading TG, and I'm almost done, sadly. I'm gonna be sad when I'm done tbh.
@@CrowCoded did you like the ending?
I finished it today and my god, I don’t think I’ve felt sadder about finishing a piece of media. I think it’s my favorite manga ever
Tokyo ghoul manga is the literal "we're this close to greatness." It's almost, almost a masterpiece.
the ending where ishida started to worn out and rush the ending makes the manga production itself a tragedy just hits for me, it ended just like what kaneki said in first chap
@@hinori106 I like the way it ended. Where kaneki is happy with his family and doesn’t have to suffer anymore
The finals arcs of :RE were rushed and a bit of a let down. That said, if you read Ishida's post about being burnt out and jaded due to his work load (that was released shortly after :RE ended in 2018), the curtain gets pulled back and you start to get why it ended the way it did.
At least it wasn't Attack on Titan...
@@jorge15266 I think they still pull of some greatness with the final arcs. It’s not like it’s bullshit
@@ThePlanet3ater just my preferences, theres a dream theory going around when the manga first ended and i prefer that because the happy ending seem a bit too sudden with so many questions left unanswered. I was very dissapointed when the manga ended but this theory came out it gave me sense of relief. Kinda neat the ending can be interpreted as both happy and tragedy depends on reader's view and preferences
I feel like the greatest injustice is that the beauty of the art in the manga is lost in the adaptation. Ishida Sui's art is beautiful
When people ask how much the artistic direction is lost, I show the infamous comparison of "I am a Ghoul" moment.
100% Agree,
that's the case for a lot of anime when animating moving frames its basically impossible to get anywhere near as detailed as a Manga.
only cases where the anime looks equal or better is when the manga has a simple art style that can be easily reproduced.
Ishida's art is mid at best
Beautiful and gruesome too
Ik its what I love about reading the manga over watching the anime
Even though I feel like I would've appreciated a good Tokyo Ghoul reboot while still in my teens, I'd still watch a *good* reboot anytime really. While it's true that after reading and watching absolute masterpiece series over the course of almost a decade now I don't feel the same need for a better adaptation of TG as I felt a couple of years ago, I still definitely think TG should be done justice. Especially bcos it was my second (or third maybe) anime I'd seen and I hold it dear to my heart. It truly *deserves* a *good* reboot. That and TPN S2.
its a seinen bro, its either shitty or bad CGI shitty
What was your first and second anime?
@@oenkapoen1396 Magic Knight Rayearth and then Naruto lol
@@lumilenm__m5304 epic, i tried to watch naruto but it was just to long. magic knight rayearth is it good?
@@oenkapoen1396 It's a shojo action anime, if u like retro stuff you might like it but to be fair, I could only sit trough it the second time bcos of nostalgia. the episodes are too... half baked lol I'd say watch something else if you have free time to watch anime
"Good night Hiase , I'm done dreaming " best line in RE
Sui ishida’s art and writing is just mesmerizing and the feeling of knowing that the rabbit hole goes deeper than the anime is awesome, but unfortunately he suffered as the manga’s popularity grew resulting in the rushed ending that the manga got
I’m not mad at the rushed ending, mostly because he acknowledged it and told us why, he was burnt out on Tokyo Ghoul.
@@KiddBuu_ yea and I’m glad that after years of recuperating he’s back but this time doing things his own pace instead of a weekly schedule
@@KiddBuu_ Just wish Ishida went on hiatus and vacation instead of rushing :re ending to get his mind refreshed and find inspiration again. His Tokyo Ghoul series is one of the best mangas, the best stories out there, and to have it get a rushed ending feels like a waste like a giant house of cards tumbling.
Sui Ishida's art throughout Tokyo Ghoul was my biggest complaint of the manga. It makes amazing panels most of the time but when there is a slugfest or some fast paced action the art becomes incomprehensible, there are no sharp outlines and it becomes hard to tell what the fuck is going on.
@@jaceharrison7936 i think he addressed that in his afterword. that if he took a break he felt he would probably just never go back to it. so he pushed through and just. gave it an ending, and closed the book on the series.
Its crazy how influential Gigguk is. I guarantee 10s of thousands of people are gonna go read the manga now. Myself included.
Me2
Hopefully enough popularity for a reboot
Bet they didn’t even understand the video and use it to justify their edge.
Fuck yeah, Tokyo Ghoul is magnificent
@@MrSonictheOtter nah, tokyo ghoul time has passed. It wont be able to get more popularity let alone reboot
As someone who’s read the manga like 4 times i can totally assure it’s one of the best things I’ve ever read in my entire life, and it deserves a proper adaptation but I do agree with the people that says that the ost should be the same, both the first and the second opening were just magical but specifically the second one, it has got me through some dark times and I still love it!
Agreed I'm on number 4 at the moment it is amazing
Agreed May reread soon
Licht und Schatten, Glassy Sky, Unravel, hell even Asphyxia are some of the best songs I've heard in anime, it's up there with Overlord openings and endings.
9:07 I heard that, remembered where it came from and couldn't help but cry. Good song choice.
if Tokyo ghoul is still being talked about nearly 10 years later you know it’s legendary
Oh my gosh, it's almost ten years later? Wow.
Not suprising it's like Death Note
Meh, it's decent. People still talk about mediocre or bad shows after a few years
@@balabanasireti nobody but u manga crybabies are calling it a bad show
or it's still being talked about cause it's terrible
I think the scene that hit me most in this entire series was when Amon asked Kaneki why he fights for Ghoul’s when he’s originally human, and his answer was that it’s because most of the people he loves are Ghouls.
honestly, almost everything in the manga hit hard
True, no need a philosophical reason, just a simple reason like that make us see Kaneki as a real person, not just some made-up manga character to serve the plot
@@butituti9036 i agree. Even the "bad" ghouls have the saddest back stories T^T
true it's such a simple but completely realistic and understandable reason, it makes him infinitely more relatable than if he had some grandiose motivation like defeating some big bad evil or something, nah the guy just wants to live peacefully with his loved ones and the circumstances of the world he lives in make that always a struggle for him and so he must fight
For me it was what Garnt showed in the video, with Takizawa writing his will. Even in the anime it was damn powerful and harsh. At first it's treated as a way to show off the characters' personalities in a silly way, only to be reminded that all of these characters have lives that they're DEATHLY afraid of losing.
When Kaneki finally broke becoming Centipede then broke again saying "I don't want to eat anymore" I just felt so much pity for him knowing there was no answer.
I didn't read the manga. In fact, I didn't read any manga, because I enjoy the whole visceral experience of sight, movement, sounds, music... But the art of this manga looks insanely amazing. I WILL READ THIS.
i do recommend you to read it the manga has such a vivid style it will catch all of yours senses ^^
It is certainly one of the elite best in all manga (its a bit basic at first no doubt tho)
Same
Of all the mangas in existence, this one moved you? Ok
@@gunnellagannin terms of shocking panels, I’d say Tokyo Ghoul is up there for sure. Not Vagabond Berserk Jojos level imo, but it’s so different that the specific emotional appeal of one doesn’t apply to another
Y'know Gigguk, you're the person who gave us this line:
"I'm gonna go join the guys who tortured me."
"That doesn't make any sense!"
"Bet it makes sense in the manga."
😂
"Thank but no" lol i remember anime in minutes
i know and i was damn confused on why he join the enemies and left his friends behind to join them
Jokes on you, this is after watching the anime and the parody that i started to read the manga.
And i effectively make sense because it does not fucking happen since this is where the story stray away from the manga
@@hestan723 √A = Route Aomori, an alternate storyline where he joins the enemies instead of making a group of his own with his allies like he did in the manga. (Somebody told me this is what happened there, I haven't gotten around to read the manga yet.)
Honestly the moment where Kaneki revealed himself as the Tokyo Ghoul and said "It's ghoulin' time!" gave me literal goosebumps.
“kaneki it you??? you were the tokyo ghoul all along??” is my favorite line
Nah in the second season when the main villain introduced themself and said "I'm the Tokyo Ghoul Root A" that was peak fiction bruh
did i miss something
In the part where one of the Aogiri members stocked still motionless then utters *"He's beginning to believe"* while Kaneki stops the Kagune using only his emergence...
No no no the best part is when kaniki says I am the Tokyo ghoul and then tells Jason I'm going to unravel your intestines and then unravel plays in the background.
I own the all tokyo ghoul mangas and i can surely say that it is awesome. Not only art but also story is so good. It's dark and gets deeper and more philosophical slowly.
Gigguk bringing back memories of pre-2016 anime times was an unexpected but pleasant surprise. Man i feel old now
yeah man I watched Angel Beats over the course of 3 nights and turned off the news and internet and pretended I wasn't in the worst timeline. So cozy.
Same man , good times
Feels like yesterday that Tokyo Ghoul was “that new popular show” and now it’s only a few years away from being “an oldie.” If it’s not already considered old.
Man the sub 2010's was when I watched so much anime and I think I can only watch a few anime a year now. Wish I could go back to the times when I didn't have any knowledge on any anime
@@isaachester8475 Old, but not too old I think. The manga ended just less than 5 years ago roughly.
Finally, it only took us die-hard Tokyo Ghoul Manga fans 8 years for The Anime Zone Man to read the manga. I am so happy right now. Yes, there is two wolves inside of me.
I read the whole manga series (aside from a few side stories) and loved it! The main sell for me was the art, but the story was cool too. Once I watched the anime, I immediately felt depressed. They really fumbled the ball with it. One of my main complaints was the changed ending. I don’t remember how the anime ended, but I remember that it felt nowhere near as satisfying as the ending of the manga.
Us manga readers need to be heard. Please give us an anime reboot!
What u mean the anime was amazing they give us both human and ghoul prospective and good plot all it lack is the engaging cinematic scenes like Chainsaw man
@@astraeus5 csm is overhyped and ass
stop the brain roadkill
@@astraeus5 the anime cut away 70% of the manga fights fyi 💀
@astraeus5 bruh it was trash I was confused as hell during season 2
@@yanakal652seaspn 3
I've always taken "tHe MaNgA iS bEtTeR" with a grain of salt, but I cannot stress how true the Tokyo Ghoul fans were when they said that. It has better pacing, more fleshed out characters, and a coherent story.
Edit: I said better, not good pacing
Idk bout pacing, cause I'm pretty sure thats on you, but agree.
Why? Rarely does an anime ever beat the source material when it comes to storytelling and character development.
I love the manga so much
As someone who prefers anime but has read a lot of manga, I really think its true that the manga is better most of the time (with Light Novel adaptations even moreso). I get how this sentiment can be obnoxious and annoying but part of the problem is how its said, coming off as confrontational instead of encouraging. Anyways, I would encourage you that the next time you see someone say "the manga is better" to maybe check it out.
Most animes are good enough that skipping out on reading the manga is not a big deal but when it comes to Tokyo ghoul, the anime was just so shit that it basically wasn’t even material worth glancing at, let alone watching consecutive frames of it
If anyone is wondering why the 2nd half of Re started getting messy and super fast paced, it's cause Ishida was massively burned out and wanted to ended it asap. If you check his post ending afterwords he says that despite being burned out, he kept going with the manga because he felt he would have just quit had he taken a break.
Yeah reading that afterword he did was heartbreaking. The toll was too much for him. The man worked on his manga for 7 years straight with no breaks. Not even once if I'm correct. Cant blame him for thinking he would quit.
Thank God he is doing ok and still passionate about manga with Choujin X which has been great so far and is taking his time for releasing chapters
Burnout sucks. I hope he is doing better now.
Yup, at that point I'm thinking that it is for the best as he can't just continue TG anymore.
At least it wraps up
That sucks hope he’s doing ok but eh it could’ve been worst
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 his new series takes a completely different release schedule, whenever he feels its ready he just drops a chapter. And while its VERY inconsistent I can only assume hes feeling bettet.
Highly reccomend it btw, really feels like hes expressing himself in an artstyle he enjoys.
You know who really deserved a better ending? David, Lucy and Rebecca from Cyberpunk Edgerunners.
This video made me tear up. It's amazing to see Tokyo Ghoul being talked in a large scale in 2022 😭
Right there with you
I’m glad you and your fellow Tokyo Ghoul fans got to see this bro! (This is Aidan from twt btw 😅)
Getting a anituber goat talking about your peak is a big honor! 🔥
@@TheYoungFan0 Yeah fr
The "quality dip" towards the end was due to Sui Ishidas poor mental health. During the publishing of Tokyo Ghoul there has been a lot of harassment and hate going on from so-called fans and Ishida suffered bad PTSD along with the "normal" pressure as Mangaka to release weekly. Makes me sometimes wonder what and if Ishida would have changed, if the circumstances had been kinder to him and he took the proper time.
We would have probably gotten the Kaneki v Suzuya fight drawn
shame we didn't :/
Dragon arc has the greatest potential so far, I would spare any previous arc to get a better narration of it (except Rushima Island, oh god it went so wrong but still bearable).
Just imagine Washuu members or other CCG regions across the world to response to the whole mess. it was too rushed even at the confrontation between Kaneki and Furuta. like how Furuta got kicked the day he was promoted. also Rize was treated so bad, she was disregarded. also the clowns were so wild imo. There's more but that's not the point.
Arima's death was a flag and the beginning of an end, not the end itself. There're some cons at the end for the most part howerver, it could be better if ishida stopped for a while and handled it properly. Tokyo Ghoul was one of the gracious things he and we had, as it developed his art and fame, and for us, it was thought-provoking interesting and phenomenal. it is hard to see a mangaka puts his soul in the work like Ishida, the fact Tokyo Ghoul was done in 8 years never fails to amaze me regardless the art and quality. I would never sayisfy my appreciation for the man's work. he's the best.
Meh, sounds like an excuse. If it's true, then his manager or studio probably forced him to keep going
Meh, sounds like an excuse. If it's true, then his manager or studio probably forced him to keep going
Oh it makes sense why choujin X has a flexible release schedule then
one thing that pissed me off is how much small but important shit they cut out in the anime like when Kaneki was talking to haise and he said he loved his mom while holding his chin, but they explained in the manga when kaneki does that it means he’s lying. Such a little detail that made that moment in the manga so much better
7:28 there are two woles in side him, one wants to be human, the other wants to be human.
The difference between edge and dark is direction. Adding darkness without impact is only the edge of things. So your characters and world should not only feel the impact of these events, but do so in ways that fit their specific situation. The darkness is the tone, empathy is the hue, and sympathy is the contrast. If you're a writer struggling to break from edgy cliches, hope this helps.
Personally, I think "edgy" is too vague to be criticism.
And while some works considered "edgy" lack direction as you say, others don't have that problem and are still considered "edgy" nonetheless. For example, works that are mean-spirited and are made to rip on something else are considered "edgy" as well.
Like Gigguk said, it's more of a feeling, not a genuine criticism.
So I have a question for you. What shows do you think are edgy with your definition? I have seen multiple people say shows like: Re-Zero, Devil man Crybaby, Akame ga kill, Tokyo Ghoul, Deadman Wonderland etc... are edgy shows. But in that same thread that was asking for: "What are the edgiest shows you've seen?" No one/or very little ppl ever mentions shows like: Berserk, Attack on Titan, Cyberpunk Edge Runners etc... All have dark tones to them.
Just to expound and potentially start a discourse - Ultimately, I think part of the problem here is that people have different definitions of the word "edgy". Some think it's a good thing while others think it's a bad thing. Those who think it is a good/ok thing are quite honestly mistaken. They are defining edgy as: " dark & cool/mysterious" That's not what edgy is. Dark, cool & mysterious is dark cool & mysterious; We have words for those already.
Edgy is something or someone, being or trying to be, intense/dark and or errant/deviant, for the sake of being so, cause its cool.
1. Characters can be edgy, but that's not synonymous with bad/edgy writing since that can be WHO the character is - people like that exist.
2. Writing can be edgy. Per the definition of edgy, this is basically when the writing is dark but is just plain and simple, badly written/executed to the point where the meaning, impact and experience are lost/overshadowed by merely the darkness itself. So, for all intents and purposes, it becomes writing/a story that is dark, intense etc... to be just that - cause its cool. Which should not be the case since the dark writing/stuff should be there to SUPPORT and CREATE, meaning impact and experience.
[ Also, last side note (For Gigguk & others): Just bc something looks edgy, doesn't mean it is. Looks alone is not what makes edgy. This can be said for multiple other things. Ex.) Just bc it looks bad doesn't mean it is, looks don't determine what is of actual, meaningful quality. ]
I think the Edge line has more to do with emotional investment, which is admittedly tied to direction, but still more subjective. This is why Edge is associated with immaturity; younger audiences get invested more easily, and older audiences are more jaded to stories in general as well as their younger selves.
imo edgy is just another term for "teen angst" used by people being lazy when critiquing a work. I think its more a problem of people failing to critique work for actual failings. Its very similar to political statements meant to dehumanise the opposition so you can just point out failings because they hold the opposite view to you, rather than having meaningful discourse.
@@JLRB__ you need a tl;dr on that essay, but I'll answer the question at the top.
I'm honestly not too in the weeds on anime, so I don't have a lot of examples to pull from, but shows like SAO and whatever the one is with the guy who makes a gun and gets way too cozy with a vampire or whatever that looks like a *child*, those shows are almost all edge and no substance. Bad things happen to the main character and a harem happens because the author was horny and the MC is the only character with any fleshing. It's that kind of egotistical worldview of "I'm so tragic and no one understands me" that rejects even the notion of other characters being more than set-dressing.
Re: Zero definitely has some edge to it, but there sometimes needs to be leeway in that judgement when looking at the story being told. MC again ends up with a gaggle of gals following after him, but there is depth to other characters that not only disagree with MC but also outright oppose and fight against him. These other characters gain depth from empathizing with seeing a person going through trauma and also having different tolerances for their how far they extend personal sympathies as they interact. This is the substance that's needed behind the edge to really cut deep, because if all you have is edge then you'll only ever be skin-deep.
Edit: the "leeway" I'm giving RZ is due to the broad scope of the story. If you were to either add more characters or better flesh out the ones in play, you'd end up with something similar to the run-length of the original Fullmetal Alchemist anime. That's not all bad, Hughes had more of an impact for the exposure we had with him, but it dilutes what should be the core of the story which is of two brothers trying to reconcile their shared grief.
Never read the manga, but holy shit, that torture scene is brutal. Makes sense on why his nails turned black and his hair turning white compared what we got in the anime.
That's not even the worst of it
Man please read the manga, things there have some logic and the events actually connect with each other
Yeah I hated the new seasons after that
it is labeled pshychological horror for a reason, it seems edgy until you read his monologue when a centipede roams inside his eardrums, "and then I heard a distant laugh,.. It was me"
@@silverfang4972 its also a real thing, relatively sudden color change to white by extreme trauma
I really need to get into this manga. I don’t know why they felt the need to mush and rush Tokyo ghoul re together. it definitely felt like way too much was going on but I still enjoyed it
at the end of the last manga book the author wrote saying that he was feeling stress and trapped by writing the series (starting around Tokyo Ghoul vol.7, 25 volumes before the series ended) this was probably the main reason for rushing
@@Roi55 I think he was talking about the anime since he didn’t read the manga re
@@Galvatronover but i felt parts of the manga was also rushed, but you are right the anime is rushed even more
@@Galvatronover The anime is bad because the manga was bad... Re was the nail in the coffin
@@Digger-NickI’m late to this and I’m not gonna argue but the fact you are even comparing the anime to it’s manga counterpart is crazy. Anime is such a shit dumpster fire of trash I hate it so much. Manga even if you consider it trash it’s still leagues better. I’d be more entertained staring at my poop in a toilet than the anime, it’s even bad at being a basic recap past season 1, and even if it was decent it would still fail at being a recap. I could almost rather wipe my butt with sandpaper like Kondo in Gintama than watch the re seasons aswell. Also the animation is not that good and I don’t like artstyle for anime. Music is good atleast, but too much would go in or happen while it’s playing to even appreciate it. Pretty much, I sincerely, completely believe the Tokyo Ghoul anime past season 1 should eat shite and die in my honest opinion. I swear in one episode they skipped like 30 chapters and mashed them together. Like what. So stupid I’m eternally going to damn this adaption to hell and wouldn’t even use it to wipe my ass or blow my nose.
love the insert of made in abyss music when you start talking about character psyche braking down
thank you gigguk for standing up and giving the manga a chance. manga readers salutes in respect
Salute in silence (cause we don't exist until the manga we read becomes an anime ☠️)
@@Nottheone777 haven heard a truer line in a long time
@@atmghst7112 🥺
There are two wolv-
Someone talking about the greatness of this manga after so many years makes my day even though we just went through a typhoon...so thanks Garnt for making these videos. Keep up the good work!
Imagine a "brotherhood" style remake
“So white is kaneki’s hair white?”
Manga artists: well it’s because of the stress he’s been through….and we were running outta ink soooo
One of the things the anime had going for it was its crazy good soundtrack. Seasons die one after another, Glassy Sky, On My Own, Alone, and then the Symphonic Suites, just to name a few. Some of the best music I have heard, love it to death.
You can't beat reading the manga while listening to these bangers
*One of the things the anime had going for it was Yutaka Yamada.
But seriously, his compositions are the only things that make this show memorable. His work on Vinland Saga completely outclasses TG too.
Licht und Schatten goes hard
@@nightgard Auferstehung is one of my favorites
for realz! I listen to Glassy Sky so often when I'm sad
It always makes me sad that Tokyo ghoul got shafted in the way it did. Sui Ishida put his heart soul and life force into that story to the point of making him sick to the point he did just want it to be over it is sad to see and he deserved better. Tokyo Ghoul needs to be redone by some high in studios it could very well be at Aot levels of animation and story telling if done right.
Pity...
I've heard this forever and always told myself I would read the manga to see if the readers were right. I'm glad gigguk now is modivating me to revisit this series. Now I've heard the same thing about soul eater. I'm hoping the manga also blows my mind away
The anime did give us an amazing soundtrack however. Just wishing they'd redo it this time staying more faithful to the manga but keep the amazing soundtrack.
AoT animation and story telling isn't that great, lol. I'd say TG deserves the Madhouse treatment, but Madhouse only cares about HunterxHunter so they'd prob drop it after 1 season...
Man juuzou's torture scene was the most painful to read. Physically and mentally.
Title: Tokyo Ghoul Deserved Better
Me: hell yea
Either ways, tokyo ghoul's always gonna have a special place in my heart no one can change that
Same. It may not have been a masterpiece but I loved it with its faults and all
@@efive850 thats the problem, it was a masterpiece, the manga was. but you wouldnt know that if you didnt read it, because the anime was awful.
@@seiaka Yeah I didn't really watch the anime much, only the 2 seasons years ago. I read the manga recently and love it but I can't deny it has it's faults and in my opinion not at masterpiece. Still really love it though.
Tokyo ghoul was the first manga that I read start to finish.
im sure someone can
What makes the entire thing about Root A even more tragic is that they discarded iirc. 300 storyboard pages done by Sui Ishida himself, which really included some fantastic character interactions and dialogue all because they were racing against the clock.
RE(edit) was not good. I legit read it and was like what in the world is going on. Nothing was explained just WAM time skip no context. Was a huge turn off never finished it. Read the recaps.
@@seemlesslies read it?
As in your read a recap for root A?
Root is season 2 of the anime so what exactly did you read?
For many years, it was unanimously believed that the mess that is Tokyo Ghoul √A was solely Studio Pierrot's fault. And there were a few reasons why people believed it.
Studio Pierrot has a mixed reputation for having produced anime such as Naruto, Boruto, Bleach, Kingdom, and Black Clover. These anime would often be criticised for several reasons such as sub-par animation and visual quality, excessive filler episodes, pacing issues and more. Because of the general media perception that animation studios matter the most when judging anime, it's easy to see why Pierrot is constantly discussed when talking about the Tokyo Ghoul anime.
Also, after Tokyo Ghoul √A finished airing, Sui Ishida's drafts of √A were released online and circulated rapidly among the anime community. To everyone's dismay, the drafts were very, very different that what was shown in the anime. Scenes like Kaneki proclaiming that he will kill the One-Eyed King, Touka seeing Rize in Anteiku's basement, and Tatara forcing Kaneki to eat Taguchi did not make it to the anime.
Here are the links to the drafts I managed to find:
sunset-tower.tumblr.com/post/129424575942/thank-you-so-much-for-you-post-about-the-anime
sunset-tower.tumblr.com/post/129418629852/ishidas-root-a-storyboard-drafts-are-so-fun-to
sunset-tower.tumblr.com/post/129451544167/how-does-tatara-make-kaneki-to-eat-her-corpse-and
This led to the anime-manga community creating the narrative that Pierrot ignored Ishida's drafts of √A when making the anime. One anituber even made a rant video about the drafts, which I think accelerated the narrative even more.
However, this cannot be further from the truth as there was an interview with Shuhei Morita (Director of Tokyo Ghoul S1 and S2) in 2018, around the same time as the Tokyo Ghoul :re anime was airing.
Link to interview: www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/88fddm/im_shuhei_morita_the_director_of_anime_series/
Before I talk about the interview, I needed to clarify a few things about the nature of √A. When √A was announced after Season 1 aired, it was advertised as a season based on Ishida's original story concept that deviates from the manga. The drafts are proof of this because they showed scenes that were not in the manga.
www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-11/tokyo-ghoul-2nd-anime-season-video-teases-new-story-by-creator/.79825
The reason why I am saying this is that a major criticism about √A is it not following the manga, whereas it was Ishida himself who wanted √A to deviate from the manga. However, the anime-manga community largely blamed this decision on Pierrot because of the animation studio stigma. So if you are unhappy with the fact that √A deviated from the manga, then blame it on Ishida, not Pierrot, even if you respect him.
Back to the interview. Basically, Morita stated that the reason why the anime was different from the drafts is that the producers interfered with the original vision. To understand what he means, we need to talk about the production committee. The majority of the anime-manga community believes that the animation studio is generally responsible for how a work is adapted. This is not the case most of the time, as it's the production committee (manga publishers, merch, TV companies etc.) that decides that.
In the case of Tokyo Ghoul √A, here are the main producers:
- Marvelous
- TC Entertainment
- Pierrot
Now you are probably thinking: "Pierrot is on the production committee so they should have some responsibility in how the √A story was handled". However, that is not the case. Pierrot is ranked at the bottom of the list so they really have little say in the decision-making; they simply do what other producers ordered them to do.
Back to the topic, Morita wanted to follow Ishida's drafts, but the producers' interference prevented Ishida and Morita's vision of √A come to fruition. This could be because the producers find Ishida's original story to be risker than the manga story in that it may not make a lot of money. The result was a mixture of anime-original and manga-canon scenes that didn't really make much sense.
My intent with this comment is not to change your opinion on Tokyo Ghoul √A, but rather to bring light to a topic that is severely twisted by the anime-manga community for a very long time. Thank you for reading.
This post was largely inspired by these 2 posts:
twitter.com/Namaryuu/status/1494343939557675009
twitter.com/dotdotKam/status/1492920227104837633
@@lachlanle7940 Woah, that was an interesting read, thank you
@don't be surprised Oh wow! Thank you for giving full context! Sadly I think I know who that anituber is.......
i'm just re-reading the manga once again.
*man* they did Ishida Sui dirty. It's so rare for a manga of this scale and quality to come out. And I realised it was one of his first major publications, in which case it is incredibly impressive that a single person, on their first time writing a full length work, was able to conjure a story with this level of world building and depth.
The first season wasn't even bad, but the complete fumbling of s2 sealed the deal. The story diverged too much to ever meet again. I didn't even bother watching RE.
Tokyo ghoul is probably among the top 10 manga of the last 20 years, easily on par with Attack on Titan or Demon Slayer. It would have reached the same level of success if they'd done it properly. Most people talk to, who've only seen the anime, find it very weird when I compare tokyo ghoul to attack on titan. True, the anime don't even compare. One is a good adaptation, one was a mess.
The creator of Tokyo Ghoul, Sui Ishida, is writing a new manga called Choujin X, and the art and story is just as incredible
Root A was initially supposed to have a completely different story line. Ishida himself drew story boards for a new storyline that he later released in an art book and there was even a trailer that hinted at a new owl related storyline. For some reason, that whole thing got scrapped and the mess that was root A happened. Ishida later used story elements of his idea for root A in Tokyo ghoul :re manga
Root A was a disaster i swear.
@@ghoulchan7525 and Ishida Sui made a masterpiece from the aftermath 😂
Wait,what trailer ?
Honestly I didn’t hate Root A but Re holy fuck was that dog shit, root A had some feeling towards it, Re just felt like an entire new universe that didn’t make sense
@@beastyboy101bo ☠️ are you talking abt the re anime or manga? Cuz I can’t speak for the anime as I haven’t seen it, but the manga certainly stays faithful to og, and is a great continuation
I loved the part in the anime where Kaneki said "It's Ghoulin' time!" And he ghouled all over his enemies, truly one of the animes of all time
When I heard that line, everyone in the cinema started celebrating and crying
I love the part whenever I scroll down the youtube comment section and I read the "original" cringe comment, "It's cringe time" and start cringing all over youtube. This is truly the most dead joke that refuses to die.
This is too fucking overused, continue.
technically that was the Jason fight ngl
@@IAMNOTRANA i love the part where everyone said "it's askin' time" and never actually did it
Tokyo Ghoul's my first manga and I absolutely love it!
I'm just lazy to watching animes but I love reading so this is great!
and I care about tokyo ghoul :)
I love Tokyo ghoul that scene where after kanake loses his memory and goes to the new coffee shop I can't lie hits me right in the feels
If full metal alchemist can get a proper remake, then so can tokyo ghoul, I hope studio mappa or A1 pictures see the potential tokyo ghoul has
facts
Soul Eater deserves one too.
It wouldn't really matter all that much as to which studio did it. Best hope it that it had a good team and overall better planning from the production comittee, along with airing at a late timeslot to avoid major censorship.
Bro why are people suddenly acting like A1 is a good studio? What happened? What changed in the last decade for the memes about how mediocre they were to go away?
What about Ufotable?
One of my favorite things in my life was reading weekly chapters of tokyo ghoul from the start, theorizing what was going to happen next. Focusing on patterns like Kaneki touching his chin, hidden tarot cards symbolizing future events/character ends and not to mention the sudden end of Tokyo Ghoul where literally everyone uh dies including supposedly Kaneki. The series literally ended with no news until the sequel was announced later and everyone had no idea what was going on. Such an experience if you had the chance to read it as it was ongoing, personally one of my favorite manga's I have ever read.
Bro when he said he loved his mom and touched his chin 😭
@@pineapplekun8769 Yeah Kaneki's life is so so sad and bleak even from the start. Someone on reddit literally went panel to panel on all of TG and TG:Re and recorded every single time he lied when he touched his chin and man it's crazy how much I missed.
I wonder if some essence of finality and confusion you describe is present in the anime because the naming is so fucking dumb lol
me with the exact same experience lel
honestly yes thank you so much. I watched the anime when i was 14 and thought it was cool. it wasnt until years later where i just randomly decided to start reading the manga, because my local library had it. I fell in love with the story. I became obsessed with it actually despite it being grotesque and horrifying i could only describe it as beautiful. I rewatched the anime with my roommate and found myself being so angry at just how awful the adaptation was and that was only season one. when I saw season 2 episode 1 I literally lost it and said I cant do this anymore and stopped watching. Tokyo ghoul remains one of my all time favorite manga and I've even started collecting the series. I pray for a reboot bc this series definitely deserves so much better.
I have one wish, and I want to preface that Im fully aware of this studios workload and mistreatement and I am not wishing to put more stress on the animators.
But as of what is currently existing right now, I feel like Mappa would be the only ones that can truly capture that deranged and unease feeling you get from certain panels. I feel like mappa could truly do justice with an anime adaptation. but of course, I wish for the animators health and safety above all else. Its simply a small wish
@12:39 Whoaa that didn't happen in the anime, damn us anime watchers did get screwed over with details
I've just started to read TG, because I heard that the manga is a lot better than the anime which I thought was fairly bad. Man, it feels like a completely different experience, it's so much more emotional and detailed.
I think that's the anime curse of trying to fit 300+ chapters of details into 48 episodes. The anime swerved around all the emotion and impact of the story in favor of the fighting (even though tokyo ghoul isn't a battle series). The whole point is the mystery, thriller, character development and emotional impact of the story, which can't be captured well when condensing that content into 48 episodes. Hell season 1 was a good adaptation but that still didn't even touch on what made TG great. Like how Kaneki volunteered to go with Jason to aogiri and enduring torture. Mostly skimmed over to condense the story
"They are two wolves inside of me"
The better version for that average manga it Parasyte
Better read Parasyte instead
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Hearing Gigguk's admission that the manga readers were right fills me with a smug kind of joy 😂
Is there a colored version. Would love to read it since the show was so bad.
I know right? It’s such a great feeling of validation when they admit you’re right! Kinda like Promised Neverland. 9 times out of 10, the manga/visual novel is better than the anime adaptation (unless it’s ufotable).
@@BonazaiGirl it feels even greater when you've been with the manga from the start and just now they're being exposed to the greatness of the source material 😂😂
@@epistolarydreams7555 I'm not really sure, but the base manga is great as is you won't even mind the black and white. But if you find a good colouring of it, send it my way!
Idk how I missed this video but I'm glad I found it. I picked up all the volumes around a year ago but put off reading it because I didn't feel like it was the right time to start yet. Now after seeing this, I think it's time.
Ishida-sensei work is flawless, even his art is worth to put in some Paris museums. His story and every panel of his drawing have some meaning behind it (like what kind of flower, some subtle number that he put that represents that character live base on tarot card, or Kaneki/Haise book that he's reading) God, I can talk on and on about my number one fav Manga all the time. I mean if you didnt read the manga, maybe the anime felt not to bad, but IF YOU COMPARE THAT TRASH TO HIS ORIGIN!? Good thing CSM didn't get the same treatment. I can only imagine if some competent studio like MAPPA pick TG. I can die peace if I saw that.
kaneki is still one of my favorite protagonists ever for these exact reasons. not to mention, i actually appreciate his journey starting as a weak loser cause it makes his struggles in the beginning feel more real and dire compared to other overly headstrong shouenen protags
Not to mention he always remains focused on being gentle and protecting those he loves.
@@cortomaltese5206 the "flipping a switch" he had was amazing, the instability of his mind but him trying his best to keep it together while being thorn apart inside
Kaneki's the goat, litterally.
He wasn’t even a loser, he was just a normal guy who wanted p
He was never a weak loser lol
I will forever praise Sui Ishida's amazing art and character study mixed together.
Mee too, that art Is incredibile to me
I love how he mix a watercolor and actual manga style together to create that unique style.
The only reason I don't completely hate season two is because of the 12 endings portraying his style.
THIS, Tokyo Ghoul is one of the few manga where the art style completely suits the tone and theme of the story. While I'm sad to admit this, Sui's latest work Choujin X was nowhere near good compared to TG since I feel the artstyle doesn't fits the theme so far. While there are great manga out there without great art, a great art could really improve the depth of the story. TG was one of the rare case where the art and the story was match made in heaven.
@@Username-cs1bi I personally think it's too early to tell, but I do agree that the story is somewhat weak right now in comparison to Tokyo Ghoul, and doesn't exactly fit with the art. But I think Sui Ishida is again, focusing on developing the characters and liking to take his time, and personally, I think he's having more fun writing Choujin X than Tokyo Ghoul, especially with the comedy involved.
I just read for what it is, just a fun but can be dark manga, which I think is how Ishida's approaching it.
not to mention the fact that the second season of :re was literally adapting 11.5 volumes in 12 episodes
No anime also removed the whole part where Kaneki breaked 103 bones of ayato
That scene of Touka eating the hamburger was incredible. I never knew that a manga could make me feel legitimately disgusted by a hamburger
@wolao siai why not read it?
@@nekozombie books are for nerds. I’m a man so I watch my media
@@entertainmentinc9735 r/iamverybadass
@@nourdjaoui3214 I’m not wrong thoe
@@entertainmentinc9735 Wow you're such a man to watch the edgified version of a series made for 14 year olds
I've always said if I ever become filthy rich I will single handedly fund a Tokyo ghoul reboot.
The saviour
We will watch your career with great interest
Are you filthy now?
my main issue with the anime adaptation is that the narration is really confusing. it might happen that some things get lost in translation however there is a difference between adapting a story on a more superficial level than making so many logical loopholes then you have no clue what the hell is happening and why. it is also really messy that some characters do carry the show and we know information about them (such as Suzuya or Akira or Touka just to name a few) and the rest has like one function in the story and that's it. while the manga has a very complex web of characters and an incredibly complex world and setting and you have the time and possibility to understand everything. also this amazing work of art is so layered and filled with cultural references, poetry, and really smart intertextuality.
though i like the anime adaptation as well since im an edgy gal kekeke :p bullet for my valentine 4 life ^^
I discovered tokyo ghoul by watching the anime first so when i finally got to read the manga i was very positively surprised that there was so much more to it
The anime left out some details but ultimately was bad because the manga was bad.
This, yep you took the words out of my mouth.
The 1st season was great, afterwards it was just confusing as hell
I always appreciate storylines that can make the reader/viewer understand the protagonists and antagonists are both valid in wanting to take each other down, and that everyone is just doing what they believe is best with what life gave them. i think tokyo ghoul and other shows like aot or even demon slayer do this well
I genuinely wish this had a better adaptation. I really love this manga so much. Kaneki is such a great character.
the more we raise hell the more likely they are to redo it like they did with FMA and brother hood
I really hope this video gets more people back into the series. God we really need a remake.
Tokyo Ghoul needs a remake ? No, not really. It's not manga accurate, but it's still good.
Berserk tho...that needs a remake. Original series, artstyle and animations were awesome, but new one...it sucks and it desperately needs remake (if they made it same as original anime artstyle, then that would be great).
The best thing about the anime is the soundtrack and first big work of the best compositor in Japan.
I still sometimes think about how Ishida was met with the cruel irony of losing his sense of taste from the sheer stress of his work on this manga.
Anyway, I hope Sui has a good day.
Honestly, as someone who had read the manga first and then watched the anime, I had to admit that the reason I'm so obsessed with Unravel, aside from it being amazingly good, is that the song fits perfectly with the manga's atmosphere rather than anime's. Of course, the anime then turned out to be a letdown but without it, we wouldn't have this awesome OP so at least for manga readers, Tokyo Ghoul still remains a masterpiece.
The best thing about the anime is the ost in general in my opinion. But "Unravel" especially
We cannot talk about Tokyo Ghoul, without mentioning the famous piano arrangement of "unravel" by Animenz, the most influential ani-pianist of all time.
ua-cam.com/video/sEQf5lcnj_o/v-deo.html
I truly believe that this piano arrangement made a substantial contribution to Tokyo Ghoul's popularity and to the reputation of the ani-piano community. Not only is this the most popular anime piano arrangement of all time (currently sitting at 88M views) but Animenz described it his most difficult so far. The variety of advanced piano techniques, combined with its high faithfulness to the original song was what gave it such a notoriety. It has also become Animenz's signature song that he would play it in every of his live concerts. I would even say that the piano arrangement pushed the limits of what a piano arrangement could be.
As a TK super fan trust me, when you hear the rest of his discography unravel becomes mid lmfao
The root a ending theme fits more than unravel. There is a sort of nuanced beauty to it that's trying to tell the story from both sides
and we shall not speak of the live action movie
When I first read the manga myself, something about how the fighting scenes were drawn made them feel unique. I was genuinely surprised by how good it looked
Ishida deserves a manga route reboot like Brotherhood to do this justice
Right dude!! The fights are underrated!!
And then you read Tokyo ghoul re, and you can't comprehend wtf is going on in the fights anymore :( something changed.
@@GreMLinSLoveCoOkies i dont think thats true for all the fights tho, usually its balanced out with cool art and dynamic poses but yea it can be hard to follow exactly
At least the anime gave us an incredible range of top tier music.
Unravel - Tk ling tosite from sigure
Katharsis- Tk ling tosite from sigure
Munou - Österreich
Tg ✓a op 2 - Österreich
HALF - Queen Bee
The saints - The people in the box
Asphyxia - Cö shu Nie
Season die one after another - amazárashi
And ost by yutaka yamada
-Valor (ft. Future sunsets)
-Glassy sky
-Alone
- wanderers
-Licht und schatten
-willpower (ft. Future sunsets)
-at your disposal (ft. Luschuka)
-parabellem- (ft. Amalee)
-wont forget you -(ft. SaKy)
- invincible (ft. Yosh)
-worth dying for (ft. David vives & future sunsets)
-ON MY OWN
- remembering (ft. Tate McRae)
-gone
people be forgetting that during the jason torture kaneki shirt turned from white to pure black due to all the dry blood
Tokyo Ghoul is a great manga, and no one would disagree that the anime didn't do it just. Well, asides from the music, that shit slaps.
The first season is pretty solid even if some details are skipped it was still on track to properly adapot the events of the manga. Then they literally just did whatever the f they wanted dissapointing pretty much everyone.
I feel S1 was good enough but manga the true way to go
@@maineman5757 Ikr, you know it's fuck up when you don't even have season 3 and they skip to Tokyo Ghoul RE.
Like wtf? If you're manga reader, you will be hella dissapointed that you won't even watch the anime and if you anime only you will be confused why Kaneki suddenly become investigator.
GLASSY SKYYYYYYYYYYY ABOVEEEEEEEEE
The Anime did it DIRTY. I am glad I dropped it before the third season.
If anyone is interested in what Ishida's doing after Tokyo Ghoul:re, I highly recommend his newest manga series, Choujin X! It's not quite the same tone as Tokyo Ghoul, but it carries Ishida's ability to convey the emotional state of characters through art and has fun characters and worldbuilding. Also, unlike :re, Ishida's actually giving himself more space between chapters, and seems to not be burning himself out as much.
Edit: so I apparently forgot to put “not” in the last sentence and made it look like he was still burning himself out…
So far Choujin X is moving pretty well. I kind of like the more laid back attitude of the series compared to Tokyo Ghoul. Tokyo Ghoul was great for being dark and edgy. Choujin X has its own persona and I am glad Ishida sensei decided to make it different in style compared to TG.
@@jayaniceday3602 I like the fact that Ishida has mire creative control but his new schedule makes waiting for new chapter a pain
@@zemox2534 For me, I actually don't mind. I go enjoy Spy x Family, Monster 8, both on Manga Plus, and when Choujin X comes out, I go happily read that.
With this said, once the first real big cliff hanger comes out...I will probably be shouting MOARRRR! :P
Here's the manga PV ua-cam.com/video/6UMGZbWG9Y0/v-deo.html
yes definitely choujin x is looking good so far and has a LOT of potential
11:48 Gigguk thinks he can get away with using the Elfen Lied soundtrack when the only human to have ever listened to that music unironically is viewing.
3:55 bruuh KEN KANEKI WANTS 🐱
.....MY MAN
watched this video when it first came out, stopped by the ad read and put Tokyo Ghoul in my to read list. Here I am 10 months later and boy am I glad I did.
The scene that touched me the most was Juuzou and Mr.Shinohara's reunion after 9 years.
I never get emotional while reading or watching something, but this scene nearly made me cry.
Mr. Shinohara and Juuzou's bond, Mr. Shinohara going in a coma, the impact it had on Juuzou it was just so well written.
It was a touching moment for me also.
I didn't like Juzou in Tokyo Ghoul at first but he became one of my favorite in Re thanks to his character development.
@lim sowq yep, started going downhill after the big arima fight and the last arc is a trollfest by ishida.
Juuzou is the best boy who deserves the world
I really like hiw much impact Shinohara has in Juuzou. He's great mentor that change a heartless brat into respected team leader.
Like this boy doesn't even care at anyone in beginning, but his panel when he sees Shinohara gets injured is really powerful, showing how much now he has someone to care about.
Suzuya was easily my favorite character in the manga. When he was first introduced, I was thought, "Oh, here's an over the top edgy character for some fanservice" but oh boy was I wrong. Through his relationship with Shinohara and eventual leadership role, he proved he was more than just a zany guy with interesting stitches. Truly a worthy successor to be CCG's reaper.
glad to see tokyo ghoul get some recognition again as a lot of the large creators have refused to check out the manga for years
Yea I was just talking about how pierrot looks to be doing well with bleach and that they NEED to remake the abomination they've created with re: especially. Whoever/the group who was in charge of deadlines and dates to finish the sequels of tokyo ghoul were stupid idk how these people get these jobs and fail so badly, like changing the route of the story or compressing hundreds of chapters into 12-24 episodes?
I read both it and re over the weekend and I think it is one of the best manga I have ever read. I only cried some of the time.
That Made in Abyss music gave me chilles. Nice Video.
I watched Root A in 7th grade and thought it was pretty good. Everyone said it was shit compared to the manga but everyone says that. I got the Tokyo Ghoul box set in Christmas 2019, so I read some volumes before taking a break. During Coronacation, I thought "I might as well keep reading the manga. Don't have to go to school." I kept reading and finally got to the second half; I was still skeptical because how much better could it be? Jesus Christ, it is phenomenal. It's unreal how a manga could be fucked up so poorly by a studio. I'm rereading it now and I can't believe how epic this part is in the manga
I would not blame the studio for this one. This is more so a case of poor management from the production comittee and executive producers involved.
@@carloscauan7967 to add onto this I believe Root A was also meant to be an alternative take on the second half, with Kaneki making the choice of joining Aogiri Tree. Ishida specifically wanted it to be different from the manga.
@@TaskSetter I was gonna ask why but if the author insisted they do something different then that makes sense
I suspect he wanted to be surprised? That would be a selfish request, but understandable
One of the saddest things about being part of entertainment is inevitably getting spoiled unlike the audience
Root A is absolute trash. Boring overall, nothing memorable.
@@nelisezpasce The thing is that it's not just that the author wanted a different story.
Author apparently wrote full draft on it which the studio and product team barely managed to adapt.
Root A is basically missing big chunks of what the author wanted.
So happy to see sui ishida's work being acknowledged and appreciated. I know this video will bring quite a bit of interest back to the world of Tokyo ghoul and I'm all for it. If anyone is looking for a content creator who has extensively talked about TG I recommend sufferants, he's got a lot of videos on the themes and how he interprets the story. I also recommend Chojin X, a new manga sui ishida is working on
No need to recommend chojin x as of right now
Glad to see @Sufferents being mentioned. He's the GOAT for Tokyo Ghoul/Kaneki explanations
Imagine Mappa giving justice to Tokyo ghoul just like how they're making chainsawman
Chainsaw is too steril
Thanks to this video. Ima make Tokyo ghoul my first Manga read since it's one of my favorite anime that I've watched. 👏🏼 haven't read Manga at all but you got me now
I did this too and its so worth it
"Tokyo Ghoul deserved better"
YES IT BLOODY DOES
The manga is great, Season 1 of the anime is great and it needs a proper remake.