"The Manga Was Better"
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2022
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That Shikamaru scene is a gold-standard for how to do things. The whole episode itself, really, sets a bar for how to handle emotional subjects and tense slow-paced moments.
IIRC they also fucked it up though by recapping it and flashing back like 500 times. It's so long ago its fuzzy now but I remember being impressed and then being like "and now you yucked it all up" lol.
Still get the goosebumbs.
this and the power (chikara) arc is really good. literally the only filler thats worth a movie status.
@@desmondmilesful yes, Chikara was great. The only filler I tell people to watch
anime sucks
When you find an adaptation that surpasses the manga it's like opening a bottle of soda and finding that it's still fresh.
Love is War did this for me. I love the anime adaptation so much.
Chainsaw Man 🥸
For me it was One Punch Man S1, Love is War, Chainsaw Man, and Mushoku Tensei
AOT adaptation is way better than the manga
@@Mitaka-Asa to be fair, that mostly boils down to Mushoku Tensei manga being a poor adaptation of the Light Novel, which is fantastic, while the anime is an adaptation of the Light Novel, not the manga.
The anime is still so damn good though and I almost couldn't ask for a better adaptation.
Biggest thing for me than can really carry the anime higher is the music. Like reading AoT is great, but then you hear the score for some of those huge scenes and it’s a whole ‘nother level.
I want to watch the berserk anime caus of the amazing music but i can't stand the animation
Reading AOT after watching adaptation (stopped once caught up with anime) was the best decision of my life. Having soundtrack playing inside my head whilst reading fighting scenes is freaking awesome experience.
It similar with Naruto, the first anime series. Maybe the biggest number of epic melodies per anime.
@@cocacolaowo318I seriously do not understand what people take issue with regarding the animation, it seems ridiculous. Does everything have to have CGI touch ups all over it like modern anime for you to watch it??
@@dudeman5303 Ok bro, you go watch the 2016 adaptation then. I just said i don't want to watch an anime and ur malding over it
Kaguya sama love is war is another fantastic example of a great adaptation. It elevates the already great manga. The combination of the music and visuals really allows you to appreciate the characters state emotionally and makes their jokes soooo funny. It's an audiovisual masterpiece.
Yeah I agree. The only thing for me is that I dont like how Kaguya is drawn in manga. I think it got better over time, but I mostly like her thanks to the anime cause in manga she looks way younger and not so good. This is where anime really helped me appreciate the manga and now I've gone through it to the end. Really it's magnificent how they elevate everything the manga offers.
You can also hear voice actors smiling and having fun, like Shirogane's VA during rapping lmao plus it's just really good
Which is lowkey surprising because A-1 adapted it, a complete wildcard of a studio
Yeah Kaguya is just better in anime form in every way. The visual gags and representations of the characters' emotions, the voice acting, the soundtrack, the better and more expressive character designs... plus if you watch the dub there's also the absolute legend that is the narrator.
can someone tell me what the anime at 13:20 is?
@@satoru2169Pretty sure it's Berserk
That scene from Naruto was a masterclass in visual storytelling, also when the father leaves he says "You can let it all out and I'll be there to pick up the pieces" referring to both the actual shogi board that was thrown and Shikamarus emotional state.
Naruto is one of my fav anime. I am so mad/sad i forgot that scene.
There is a even better thing to that, the fact that we only see the first moments of shikamaru crying and then shikaku shuting the door tells the viewer that this, even though it's a key moment in shikamaru development, it's a personal and private moment for the character, it has so many layers that is genius in so many levels
Never interested in naruto, but that scene with garnt narration made me shed some tears 😢 .
@@ravelhidersunk4458 thats the garnt effect. He makes us emotional about the shit we haven’t even heard of lol
Goated scene for a goated charachter. It allowed him to mourn and then get back to work to kick some akatsuki ass
I think Bocchi this season is an extremely good example of using the medium of anime to better explore demonstrate concepts than in the source material. The amount of visual comedy that can only be portrayed in video format is just insane.
BOCCHISWEEP!🔥
Yo choom, this b*tch be a cyberpsycho
Bocchi is a very similar situation to K-On where now that the anime exists, I will probably never even touch the manga again. It's just that good.
way more than just the visual comedy. Bocchi's VA is fucking incredible, she hits all the notes that a certain classmate of mine does - the hysterical monologuing, the shy voice, people don't sound the same all the time, and she captured that perfectly.
Bocchi was also the first thing that came to my mind. The adaptation is incredible. Interested to see what Garnt thinks about it.
12:12 Wow, did this moment get copyright claimed? Goddamn, that was the best part of the video, I swear when I first saw this it wasn't cut like this.
Ok I was wondering what was up
It's fine for me?
Nevermind I see what you meant
Nah, King Crimson just showed up.
Here i thought something was wrong on my end like usual.
Sad to hear this might be the case.
Literally the best part of the video to demonstrate the point and it got messed up horribly.
3:10 insane how all of these manga around the campfire have now actually gotten a good adaptation since this videos creation
The scene in Spy x Family where Loid rents out a castle comes to mind as something so fun I don't mind that most of it wasn't in the manga.
Nadia The Secret of Blue Water anime has a whole arc some people say is filler but that arc is so wholesome an builds the characters
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I think it was
@@pyowol5275 It was in the manga but that whole thing was really brief in the manga while they really stretched it out in the anime
@@Emwithastarr yeah I read it was because the team swapped people around so another person was directing that part :)
Started as an anime fan, became a manga reader and I am now a LN reader. Feels great
Ong
Wait until you start reading Web Novels
So fuckin relatable
@@shinobuk711 EVEN MORE RELATABLE
Started as a anime fan gonna die an anime fan but I still read manga but not a lot
Manga sometimes is better, sometimes it's worse or it's on the same level, but it doesn't have one thing... THAT OP THAT ALLWAYS MAKES YOU HAPPY WHEN YOU HEAR IT AND THAT MAKES YOU WANT TO SING IT FOR HOURS.
YES!! (coming from a manga reader) THEY ARE AMAZING
Am I the only one who stopped watching op because of bs spoilers talking about season 3 danmachi and numerous others but danmachi s3 was the last straw.
OP? What is that supposed to stand for? I know you're talking about the score but I have never heard of referring to the score as "OP"
@@dudeman5303 it's the opening
@@dudeman5303 I don't actually know, but I think it stands for "opening"
That Jujutsu Kaisen panel explaining Hakari's Domain Expansion actually fried my brain when I tried to read it.
I have no clue how in god's name the anime will adapt that sequence.
Idk either but both the manga and anime are Michelin star level chefs so I trust what they are cooking
Just read that recently and man I had to set the manga down take a walk then come back and skip those pages
Its easy to understand idk what u mean
Thank you sooo much for mentioning the Shikamaru shogi scene. It was easily one of the best, and most underrated scenes from Naruto. Another similar scene was when Naruto was mourning Jiriya's death, and bought the popsicle they usually shared. It was the most emotional moment from Naruto imo.
Incredible scene 😍
Y'all are just making me cry now
Never watched Naruto, but that scene with Gigguk's narration brings tears to my eyes.
@@yboy898 for real, he's really good at writing and performing scripts. (i mean it's his breadwinner but still)
Kyoto Animation's directors (including Takemoto who unfortunately passed away) seem to be very aware of this, all of their adaptations take some liberties with the manga in order to make it work as an anime. It's not just K-ON : Hyouka, Violet Evergarden and Hibike are also great and make the most of their medium by using character acting and experimental visuals when appropriate. Hell, even Musaigen Phantom World is surprisingly good.
And more recently, Cloverworks has made an absolute gem out of Bocchi's 4-koma, the care given to the anime adaptation is insane. Comedy manga adaptations are so hit & miss because of the timing, but Bocchi not only nailed that but also went above to give us one of the best anime this year.
8:58 what's the name of this anime?
My absolute favourite anime and manga is Full Metal Panic, and the way KyoAni handled the direction of Full Metal Panic Second Raid is just masterclass
When people say they like FMP, they mean they like the Second Raid
Also @lazy_bum sorry man, cant answer
Cloverworks is fucking fantastic lately, I'm gonna see everything they'll made so I don't miss any gem like Bocchi
@@viktorv22 in my experience, their work is hit and miss, sometimes they craft seasonal gems like bocchi and dress-up darling, other times you get the crash and burn of promised neverland s2, or wonder egg priority.
@@Snooopy28 8:58 what's the name of this anime?
My thing is I have a hard time getting attached to characters without hearing voices, I don't really know how to explain it, like, I might be super emotional and cry when seeing a well voice acted scene with a great score, and sure that scene wouldn't be good if not for the manga's writing, but seeing scenes animated, acted and accompanied with a well made score is just on another level of immersion to me.
Thats why I watch the anime first, and if it's really good but the next season wont happen until the next millennium, I read the manga.
It's weird to me that he haven't mention sound as one of the primarry way anime can outperform manga as well. Yes, if you have basic VA and soundtrack - no one is going to care, but there are some shows that thrive only because of it's soundtrack is so fucking amazing it keeps the audience in even if every other aspect is unbelievably mediocre. (i'm looking at you Aldnoah zero)
@@user-lw6du8fl3b oshi no ko got both
Subaru's VA in the infamous Re:zero episode 18 is
Can u not imagine the voices in your head?
THE EDITING IS INSANE this kind of editing does not get appreciated but it takes SO MUCH WORK wowowow. Good job Bakashift, shit's insane.
The art style and voice actors of the Kaguya-sama anime are incredible. Such a great adaptation
The one time the dub is better than the sub...
i'll be that one guy that said the manga is better. i can't watch the anime, the narrator is soo long and a lot of times overexplaining things that can be conveyed in a scene.
@@BossManSays i think they were talking about the sub and i love the sub too, i heard the narrator in dub is amazing but sub actors of main cast are phenomenal
@@BossManSays Not in the slightest. Aoi Koga and Makoto Furukawa carry the anime hard.
Bleach's anime on the other hand was 58% filler (also the Bleach dub is waaay better than the sub)
Being converted to being a manga reader comes along with being an adult, cuz manga is speed run and as an adult i need every minute of my day
living that way will stress all the fun out of your life
Yeah! I keep up with a massive amount of manga and it's just easier to do than to sit and watch anime and I usually like the art in manga better. The time I used to use to seasonally watch I now use for gaming when im off work and I just use an hour or so before I wake up to keep up with all of my manga. I tend to watch a few seasonals for an hour or so before I go to bed now
What source do you use to read your manga? book, website, app?
@@nitetoad I use mangahere since I’ve been using it for almost a decade now
Same. I can read faster than watching anime.
Does anyone else experience a weird cut in the audio in 12:24?
The scene got copyright claimed so he probably had to cut parts of that section
I think the most important thing as a manga reader is to not underestimate the anime audience, and to appreciate how much work goes into the most average of anime production. There is always going to be nuance that is lost when adapting a manga. Something I ask myself now whenever I get a little annoyed at something being cut from the anime is if a tone or theme is still able to translate effectively and be understood by the audience, since that's what's most important. This attitude has helped me in judging if an anime adaptation has done justice to the source material, and actually convince friends to read manga. Treating a manga as a more nuanced and detailed version of the story is more effective than just saying it's "better" because it's all subjective to how well the individual responds to the medium
As for animation fans or music fans that love their mediums just as much. If there was an original anime and you're a music fan and then was told "The silent stageplay version is best" you would wonder how that is supposed to work.
I feel everyone slowly becomes a manga reader. Especially when you love a series.
I mean we cant wait for season 2 when they give us cliffhangers tho
It makes a lot of sense when you realize anime is basically just an ad for the original source material. The better the anime, the better the ad, the more likely they'll want to read the OG source material. And it works really really well.
I will never become one
only the case with HxH anime audience it remains in my case the only manga I read to this day
Not everyone but a large chunk does. And of that a small portion goes on to become an LN enjoyer(chad).
A perfect example for Gigguk's point on anime adaptations is this current season's "Bocchi the Rock". The anime elevated the manga to a whole new level, and is doing some very unusual, hilarious and wacky stuff on the art direction.
True. Bocchi went way beyond that tbh. The manga is nothing compared to the anime.
yeah bro bocchi the rock was just an alright 4koma and the production team cranked it to SSS+ tier
Bro I will pray to all gods but please I need s2 of bocchi. That shit's funny af
It’s like someone in the production team just said “i just remembered, we can animate this ANY WAY WE WANT!”
FACTS! That's why I never ever going to read manga before the anime adaptation.
I think one of the biggest points he touched on was staying faithful to the source material. A good example of this is Soul Eater. The manga does a much better job of explaining and going more in depth of how soul resonance works, while the adaptation kinda brings it up briefly as something new happens but doesn't really break it down fully. Not to mention a huge moment in the manga- when we get to see Maka's Piano Scythe form- was completely nixed from the ending of the show and changed to something that more fit the narrative of the adaptation. But all of this doesn't change the fact that I've rewatched the anime many a time. So adaptation's can do right by doing their own thing pulled away from the source material- but they need to make sure that the audience is gonna like it just as much as the source material, if not better, so that it doesn't get blown back in their face.
You did a great job with finding great visual examples and making great points! I feel ya on all this
Bocchi the rock is another example of how a good adaptation can bring the story to another level.
learning how bocchi the rock is written in 4koma vs what we got as an anime was an insane shock, it gave so much to the story
Yessir, the anime adaptation gives so much depth to both the comedy and narrative aspects
Other examples are Senryuu girl and Bloom into you.
@@Lianpe98 i loved senryuu girl. It was such a simple and cute anime.
This show is amazing 😭
“Maybe you don’t even watch anime anymore, but you still watch these videos”
I feel attacked.
Edit: I still cry at the Shikamaru scene. Truly a masterclass scene. I stopped watching anime because I couldn’t find one that gave me those special scenes. I can’t wait for the year review of the best to see if there’s anything I can watch.
Read the manga 🗿
@@fancy755 lol
JoJo
Vinland Saga!!!!
My brother in Christ. How long has it been? What was the last one?
May I suggest going to anirecapped and scouring his videos for good content? He doesn’t always spoil entire shows, but it makes for good anime scouting.
This was a great video! You did a very nice job explaining the nuanced differences between the various mediums. Excellent work.
Also, that brief clip of the Uzui Sound Breathing technique from Demon Slayer got me so hyped, I'm going to watch that episode again, lol!
Love that hidden Nujabees “feather” tune u played for like 2 secs ;)
the "i'll pick up the pieces" scene is easily one of the greatest examples of why anime as a medium should be respected more.
Anime openings and their songs can be pure art. Like Evangelion.
@@olavikaukamieli1314 eva mid
dudeee the fillers from one piece were all pretty great not like trash boring ones from naruto
@@Viroh no one asked.
@@riku861 I asked 🗿
That Shikamaru scene gets me every time. For real, despite all of the filler, Shippuden was exceptionally good at creating emotion.
That Joey diss was actually a masterful UA-cam video adaptation of a podcast series. Now that I think about it, Gigguk is a great Garnt adaptation.
anyone else bothered by the rendering errors at 12:16?
March comes in like a lion is another good adaptation of balancing the manga panels and the anime visual. The manga panels are visually stunning as is but the anime makes them more evocative. The burning fields arc really hit hard on the anime.
Here here... 👏
Ah yes, the manga makes me cry and the anime makes me cry... harder
I feel like spyxfamily did this beautifully. They have a lot of "filler" and bulk out a lot of scenes, but it's so beautifully integrated that I, a superior manga reader chad, don't notice when the story is from the manga or original.
It also helps that Spy x Family is a goofier series that isn't in a rush to tell it's story so it can get away with filler as long as it's funny and/or cute.
And they play to the strengths of animation as well. Sometimes the manga slips up a bit and the anime was able to cover for it and make it better
I still think that the format of SpyxFamily works better as a manga, since there are chapters that are too long in the anime when in the manga you can read them in less than 5 minutes. But that's not to say that WIT and CW aren't doing an excellent job with the adaptation, it's just something to do with the pacing that hopefully they'll fix in the next season.
Kinda like Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid in that regard.
I don’t know about this i still prefer the manga. The anime censored a lot of Yor’s gruesome killings and i think the manga lands the jokes a lot better.
My ideal for Manga to Anime adaptations is QUALITY over perfection in adaptation. PERFECT Example is OG Rurouni Kenshin when Kenshin says goodby to Kaoru to leave for Kyoto (See Kyoto Arc) where they are surrounded by fireflies. The whole scene is dynamic, emotional, engaging, and I sobbed like a freaking child. Did it follow the manga perfectly? Nooooooooo. It IMPROVED upon an already existing scene to create something even better while staying true to the spirit of the manga. That's what I want to see more of.
I’ve recently been reading the demon slayer volumes after the entertainment district art and it’s been amazing. The arts been incredible and the story is VERY good, however I can’t wait for it to be animated. The fights are great, but it’s because of the unique abilities and plans used, not the choreography, so I’m very excited to see how it will look once animated.
"You either die as an anime fan or live long enough to see yourself as a manga reader"
-Gigguk 2022
- Sun Tzu, God of War: Ragnarok
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Truer words have never been spoken, I've gone from "Wow that's an incredible anime, oh there's a manga adpatation of it..." to "This manga is great they should definitely adopt it to an anime" or "About time this manga got an anime adaptation...
ppl who read light novels:
Currently reading One Piece for the first time and knew I had to hear Bink's Sake in anime form once I got to that panel. It was everything the manga wanted to be and more for just that one moment
One Piece filler content might slow the anime's pace but voice actors always give it all, especially in the more emotional scenes. That's why I never dropped the anime, even in the 550-650 episode range when the animation and art style were the worst since the beginning.
@@rodryguezzz I agree. The voice actors are just so good. Also the animations of the latest arc is amazing, even better then most average short anime series.
@@Tomluke5823 I can't even watch anymore average animes. One Piece has slow pace which makes it a bit "ugh", i get that, but at least it's unique and keeps being so, which is why i keep watching it. Average animes are so unoriginal which makes them less watchable once you've watched hundreads of anime.
The first time I encountered binks sake was in manga form. I knew I had to hear it both dubbed and subbed and soon after hearing both versions I was verge of tears. Truly the end of thriller bark is one of the best moments in one piece
Ngl I’ve finally succumbed to this this year after 20 years of being anime only - really is revolutionary being able to read without the worry of the story not finishing, and also to be read wherever I want at my own pace
At the end of the day Giggster always comes through with the storytelling in his video. Almost cry when you brought up that Shikamaru moment cuz shiiiii i forgot about it ffs
The manga hold the mind of the author while the anime is so much harder to get right with that many people involve
But when done right, the storytelling, music, pacing, it's so endearing and never leave your mind
That's why I won't stop loving anime
-from a manga reader
And Mushoku tensei was one of the best examples if people who love the series come to work together what heights it can achieve
@@mayankmayur495 yeah, its such a good adaptation. It really builds up on the light novel at times.
anime sucks
Bravo 👏
Made in a abyss is a great example. Love the manga but the anime elevates it. The music and animation just make me enjoy the world so much more.
Couldn’t agree more.
I read the manga first and yet the anime hit me like a ton of bricks, as if I had never read it to begin with.
the anime is great but I can't say that one is better than the other. the art in the manga is really detailed and gorgeous in a way you could never fully translate to animation. the manga is still definitely worth reading.
@@vidoxi Of course watch out for the random piss and prolaspe scenes
I started reading Manga because of One Piece. I was constantly starting and stopping watching One Piece mostly because I accidentally fell behind, but when I finally got to watching it weekly all the time, it drove me crazy. The opening took over a minute, and the recaps were about 7 minutes long to top all off One Piece, a single chapter of the anime and sometimes less. By the end of Dressrosa, I was done watching the anime, and I switched over to the manga, and it was like heaven. Now, every week, I'm just hyped for the next chapter. I still occasionally go back to the anime, but I'm still behind on it.
@@deadchannel7895I’ve read and watched both and tbh bro the one piece manga is just much more enjoyable but both are peak
@@AeyakS the one piece is not actually a large part of the show its mostly abt freedom
@@AeyakSnah one piece is just like the end goal like becoming hokage was for Naruto the show is much more
tbh the only thing that i had for the one piece anime was the long ass stare scenes but a pretty easy fix was to just have my finger on the forward arrow key when watching and that fixed everything so now i love the anime
tbh the only thing that i had for the one piece anime was the long ass stare scenes but a pretty easy fix was to just have my finger on the forward arrow key when watching and that fixed everything so now i love the anime
Love is War, Spy x Family, Snow white with the red hair, and FMA brotherhood are all animes that I love more than the manga versions. Having a beautfiul soundtrack, great graphics, and lively vouce acting really brings it to life.
Gigguk really dedicated a whole video to calling out manga readers
He called out the annoying ones/purists and lazy studios who just copy paste the manga source without much effort (most of them). That's why I think LycoReco and Akiba Maid War are some of the best animes this year because they clearly had creative freedom both visually and literally.
He praised the boys so his opinion is easily discarded. The Manga is always better.
@@timsas did he praise the boys show or comic? Cuz if the show, then based, since the comic is objectively worse in every conceivable way.
true dedication, best girl
@@timsasThe manga is always better” either you’re joking or you’re the problem and are a primary reason of why this video was made… also idc if you genuinely think the comics are better bc the show is 10/10 masterpiece.
Kaguya sama is a great example for a great adaption.
Not only is everyone, be it sound designers, composers, animators, voice actors and directors etc doing their absolute best, but they all know what anime can do.
Just look at the difference between the Rap Arc in the Manga vs. the Anime.
The English narrator is the best character.
@@janisir4529 yes!
I would say chainsaw man is also a prime example of an anime living up to the manga. I could even argue it's better sometimes
I think depending on the type of manga adaptions need different things. Kaguya did great like u said. But shounen for example need things like demon slayer or bleach tyw arc. Bonus fight scenes and turning pacing destroying explanations into virsual explanations.
@@janisir4529 that could open more a discussion of "can the dub be equally good than the original, or even better?"
Couldn't agree more. Your whole video sums up why webnovels are so good it feels like it merged the two mediums or rather min-maxed both worlds.
I hope that a new era would come to treat anime as a cinematic experience rather than a simple adaptation. Everyone praises FMAB but i couldn't watch it at *1, i had to go through it at *1.5 and even *2 sometimes because there's so many stretched moments that kills the pace. And then i read the manga and realized that it was waaaay better and even the fights felt better.
Just put sakugas everywhere and take time to show characters and the scenery more at least it'll bring something new.
This is one of my favorite videos you’ve made. It’s covered all my thoughts on this and then some. 11/10
As a non-manga reader, I really appreciated this video. Great points made.
At this point I try to figure out whether or not the anime is a proper adaptation through, usually, just a single Google search. If the anime has a very positive reputation, I'll check it out. But if the anime is, just, an adaptation of the manga that doesn't do anything new, it's way faster to read the manga.
That's just me tho. Obviously to each their own.
As a mostly anime watcher, i can confirm. Manga is almost always better. Unless the anime is virtually flawless then anime is better. Like dbz or naruto and bleach. Except for fillers. They suck most of the time too.
I often only read manga with no anime or it has one but I did not know that
Air Gear anime and Manga are godly thou
@@Andytlp fuk the idea of better or not better if the anime is good or great that's awesome if its bad then its still real fun
@@Andytlp i prefered to watch chainsaw man instead of reading it because that animation is GORGEOUS.
The Shikamaru scene is a BIG reason why I love Anime.
Mangaka can have their already fantastic source material elevated to another level.
I'll be honest, I actually missed that scene when I watched the anime. Because I skipped every single scene, I ended up missing that one too
Another great example is Demon Slayer Season 1 EP. 19.
With each passing day that opening quote is becoming more true for me, I haven't read this mush since I was 11 reading the captain underpants series
:55 “Gentlemen and Ladies” Chivalry really is Dead wt🤣
Makoto Shinaki's movies are amazing because he highlights the beauty of the art and doesn't change frames every 0.5 seconds. He lets us appreciate the beauty of the art style and the animation
Shinkai’s films aren’t adapted from manga though, they’re original material.
@@Fanimei Yes, I'm just saying that his movies are beautiful to watch because of what I just stated above. The world looks so beautiful in his movies.
@@Fanimei they're technically adapted from LNs which he storyboards first, writes alongside beginning the production, and finalilzes then sells the novel before the movies ever even hit cinema by months. So yes they're adapted from a source. That source is just Makoto Shinkai himself making it both an original material and a film adaption
@@Fanimei Exactly!
His movies are style over substance. Beautiful but with a mediocre story. Like a michael bay movie
This is how you get anime fans and manga readers to shake hands and say our mediums both have their strengths, so lets not fight and make out instead. Top tier editing.
so now we can all agree that the manga is way better right? :D
"making out"? suske Gayge
@@stripey566 no food wars
So now we can all agree to make out right? :D
@@stripey566 now we can agree that light novels are better.
The thing about anime adapted from light novels, is the story is almost always better than those adapted from manga. Juuni Kokuki is an amazing anime, and it works because there's so much world-building, and character building in the novels. Also when done right, light novel adaptations can be beautiful, precisely because the animators have more freedom to come up with their own designs. They have a "script" but they get to decide how it looks. This means the animators are truly contributing more of their own creativity to the work, than just basically coloring in an existing storyboard from the manga.
It's been a while since I've watched a Gigguk video and he's still spot-on and hilarious as always
Bocchi the Rock really gave us an example of an anime outdoing the manga, hopefully Gigguk will make a video on it
I doubt you ever read the manga
4-komas are typically the best example of anime > manga, but they are also the hardest to nail. So much more creativity and interpretation has to go into it.
Boichi is my favorite manga artist, his manga adaptations are always done right
@@ausgod538 I liked the manga and I’m not doing it or the author a disservice, but its tough to say its as good when the BTR anime goes balls to the walls and everyone involved pouring so much passion into every minute detail in each episode
@@dragongali2340 it's just that the anime is really so good that the manga can feel underwhelming in comparaison
That story arc from Shikamaru was one of my favorites and one of the most heartbreaking storytelling I've seen from Naruto. Thus the openings, Blue Bird and Closer is one of my favorite songs and it just hits when you learn the context.
I was joking how the show should've been just called Shikamaru, favorite character
Shikamaru is one of the most well written characters in Naruto man. There was one part where he'd ask his father why so many people hate Naruto, and his father ask him why does he think people hate Naruto. He answers with a logical answer (he didn't know he was jenjurki at that time) saying that his annoying and brash, but it still didn't warrant him hate. His father then says, that people are incline to their opinion but it shouldn't let it effect his opinions of Naruto. Honestly, shikamaru's dad should win an award for being the best dad in the Naruto.
I started watching Naruto after delaying delaying delaying, just because of Blue Bird, I don't think you need context, when you listen to it, you can't wait to know the context 🙂
Yeh and one of coldest one liners when Shikamaru says to Hidan along the lines "That ___ is not your god anymore. I am."
He's my favorite as well. His revenge was my favorite pieces of media
The transition from the ad to the video with YuGiOh music in the background.... Just perfection. 👍🏽
Since you are talking about japanese whisky, could you consider making a video about it one day? What are your favorites and what have you tasted.
As a manga reader, i tell people “watch this anime when it comes out” because I simply love those stories and want other people to enjoy them through their preferred medium. Except for one piece. Read that ish and go back to watch specific scenes it’s magic
Based, thank you. As much as I want to read a banger manga. I always try to hold on until it gets an adaptation, because I want to experience it to the fullest. Cus if I know the story already, I just watched the anime for the visuals, and will mostly get disappointed😞
Yeah. Whenever I get a new Manga name, I will just do a guesswork. "Are we getting an anime anytime soon or not?"
And if there is possible anime, I don't read the manga.
Chainsaw man, Oshi no ko, Frieren, Call of the night, Spy X Family are all some of those examples. (Fun fact A majority of these manga recommendations are also from Gigguk 😂)
@@newbie4789 to be fair Chainsaw Man’s manga is its own separate beast
I'm a bit surprised that you didn't mention Bocchi the Rock in this video. That is a perfect contemporary example of an adaptation that IS going above and beyond while adapting the source material and just blowing it out of the water with its creativity and stylistic choices.
Mf haven't watched. Still thinks it's another generic cute girls doing cute things anime.
If you haven't noticed, in his latest anime season video Bocchi didn't even made the cut, it was left back in his Twitch clip.
That L will fly back to him like a boomerang.
Most likely he hasn't watched it, he doesn't like the cgdct genre
@criccode he probably hasn't, though with the amount of word of mouth hype that Bocchi is getting, that might change. And, I mean, he gushed over K-On in the video, which almost literally created the cgdct genre, so we know he's not against it on principle, just not into the generic/mediocre stuff in the genre that gets made each season.
He ignores bocchi so bad, thinks its a generic cgdct anime I just wanna see his face when it dominates the anime of the year charts💀
13:00 Lol, the random Nier Musik. I like
When I played Steins;Gate for the first time, I couldn't help but applaud how ingenious it is that this game gives you a chuunibyou and an unreliable narrator for so much of its playtime. The world was introduced to you by someone who claimed to be an evil scientiest talking into a phone where you couldn't hear the other side of the talk until you realize, that there is actually no voice. Also the whole lecture of Kurisu about realistic ways of time traveling and what the problems are in Rintaros university was great and added a lot to the understanding how time travel later worked.
And when the anime was recommended to me as one of the best anime adaptations ever, I can't tell you how frustrated I was that none of this was in the anime. However, I really loved it that all the original voices were still the same.
Oh and sometimes I prefer the adaptations like Demon Slayer or Made in Abyss because of their soundtrack. (Yuki Kajiura and Kevin Penkins in these two examples)
I'll always appreciate Mangaka that know how to draw easy-to-follow fight scenes that flow.
Toriyama is pretty underrated for this because so many DB fans have only seen the anime adaptations
Dandadan sweep
Example?
@@greygozhost any random Dragon Ball page... A lot of Naruto's big fights too. There are a lot of good Manga fights that flow. (One Piece is a great manga, but not one of them.)
@@greygozhost Soul Eater
That shikamaru scene made me tear up again. Such a godly moment.
Same here. There are so many bombastic fight scenes in that anime, and yet this scene is one of the few that still remains clear in my mind as a standout after years and years.
This is possibly the best video essay I have ever seen. Thank you.
5:40 basically as explained by gintama
Started an Anime Fan, Then a manga fan, then a light novel fan, then a manga fan again, then a webtoon fan, then a webnovel fan, yet we all know that no matter how many times we switch and no matter how good an adaptation or story is, it will never match the first time you watched or read literally anything decent.
hello my fellow deranged webnovel fan
@@swift3334 salutations, any recomendations? we are all starved for content
@@biscuitface7245 ugh whats your posion? Fanfics or originals? Harem or no harem?
@@NoName-kg4uy originals, usually no harem but its not a definite no if its an actually good novel
@@biscuitface7245 should look at shadow slave its really good
A place further than the universe. That one scene will never fail to make me cry
Speaking in the context of this video, that's how you know Yorimoi took advantage of its liberties as an original story, and its critical acclaim will attest to that.
can someone tell me what the anime at 13:20 is?
What’s the title of that horror manga presented in 7:50? I’m not good at understanding japanese titles heard in english accent or maybe I’m just deaf, dunno
Im not sure if it was mentioned, but one thing that also changes between anime or manga is the amount of details. If you look at berserk art in manga and then compare it to anime its entirely different. Not sure whats right term, but anime needs to simplify lot to make it work. This makes making anime in some cases very hard.
I didn’t only become a manga reader I’m worse I became a light novel reader 😔
Heheh I feel called out with Re:Zero
Worse a : web novel reader
@@DLCS-2 That's what I actually meant xD never read the light novel, totally read the web novel, at least as far it has been translated
I'm worse lol, if I watch a anime that pique my interest then I go to the source material, be it manga, light novel, visual novel or video game
How’s the Hunter x Hunter light novel? Wait… there isn’t one
The shogi scene you talked about made me wanna watch the entirety of Naruto... for a second. Then I realised it's 720 episodes and 10 movies, of which I've seen the OG Naruto (220 eps) 9 years ago and all the movies (this year) so I quickly decided against it.
It actually takes me longer to read manga than watch anime because with the manga I'm always admiring the beautiful art. Sometimes I pause anime for the same reason, but I love to draw so maybe it's just because I want to improve.
Adapting action manga should include more scenes of movement. To many just copy the panels but there's so many scenes that could be longer. So glad you covered that.
look at action scenes from Chinese media they go hard they adapted a JP light Novel and made the action at the same level of big Shonen but its a Slice of Life comedy name 5000 Year old Herbivores Dragon is unfairly Villainized
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 where can we watch that
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 also, I loved fog hill of fire or something and scissors seven.
The problem is like he said, most anime is still an ad for the manga/light novel, so likely not much money goes in it's production of limited episodes. It's one of the reasons why Promised Neverland season 2 sucked ass, since the manga was over the production committee send barely any money for a short episode order.
@@l4nd3r yeah one thing that's a double edged sword that China does is treats shows like youtube in the way that they look at comments, follow and like numbers to prioritize official budget distribution
Made in abyss have one of the best adaptation in media in my opinion , the animation soundtracks voice acting were all phenomenal they even add some amazing hitting scenes like that balloon scene at the end of season 1
Plus i can watch the anime without feeling like i should seek help
Only thing tht sucks is the anime finally caught up with the manga.
Manga is only 2 or 3 chapters ahead of where Season 2 ended.
So we're gonna hav to wait 4 or 5 yrs for Season 3. lol............*cries inside*
Dub or sub? Trying to start season one next week.
@@layzy24 If you want to empathize with real sounding pain and agony from the characters the japanese dub will break you (if you have mental health problems, be careful). And I will wholeheartedly agree on the take of the anime being better than the manga. I caught up to both two weeks ago and can say the anime adds valuable "filler" and rearranges and corrects the pacing for certain scenes within Season 1 where the manga just _flies_ by. S2 is a complete different experience at the beginning even when compared to the manga because of rearranging. Keep in mind nothing is lost or added to the story in S2, it just starts off better. The OST is done by none other than Kevin Penkin and he created his Magnum Opus right then and there. After S1 you watch Movie 3 (Dawn Of The Deep Soul) and follow up with S2 (Movies 1&2 are recaps of S1 with 5 minutes total of new animation, not worth watching the movies just for that). Also there's an optional OVA episode and an OVA short series that both can be watched after Movie 3 if you need a break from the insanity.
Good luck surviving! :)
@@marinellovragovic1207 thanks. how do I bookmark your reply. You are God send. I'm like that when it comes to certain animes, or just recently talking to people about the game asuras wrath and people not knowing about 2 certain FUCKING BANGERS of anime dlc.
that ost for ff13 at 13:05 is soo underrated, probably one of my favorite final fantasies
This ost is not from final fantasy. It's from nier replicant
the explanations were so good, sick video
"After living long enough to become a manga reader, you transition into light novel reader"
-Sun Tzu
Danmachi is a great example
Truer words have never been spoken. Sincerely, a fellow LN addict.
After living enough to become a light novel reader, you transition to anime watcher. And the cycle continues.
I know it’s not a manga but the adaptation for 86 did a great job adapting the first novel but also adding a lot of new scenes that helped make the story better
Adding scenes or content isnt necessarily a bad thing, its a matter of how well it integrates and if it expands on things. For example, Konosuba is a great series and it was rather well adapted. But you know what is a tiny thing that was added that wasnt canon to the source material? The "Yes yes Im Kazuma." Line. In the anime its something you may miss because its quick but it somehow feels natural. The VA for Kazuma understood him so well he improved a line that really would be something the character would say in the original work.
86 is mid
Yoo what the heck was that song near the end of the video that went so hard
That beginning sentence... Is too true
"You either die an anime fan, or you live long enough to see yourself become a manga reader"
People who became a manhwa/manhua fan:
Edit: alright to end arguments
Manhwa: player system, leveling,(I only read this for the artstyle)
Manhua: cultivation, courting death shit(lmao)
Manga: power of fvcking friendship, oh yeah and also romcoms(beach/festival eps)
that's just manga with a lisp
@@NoNameAtAll2 Mike Tyson reading manga.
Bruh when you're screaming at why your awesome manhwa isn't animated yet
That quote is basically Joey at this point
@@dracolupine9441 and when it is, its a terrible adaptation
Anime can deliver beauty of the world, manga can deliver beauty of the moment, ranobe can deliver beauty of mind.
And only Gigguk can deliver yet another video I'll definitely watch
well said
OK I admit I'm a weeb but even for me, calling light novels by its Japanese pronunciation is cringe for me. Its an English word ffs.
@@kpp28 and I'm russian. We like to call them ranobe, at least that's what I see
anime sucks
The issue with ranobe is that they aren’t usually great books… they don’t excel as books. Good manga excel amongst all forms of comics.
It's weird, I am actually a manga reader because it's not just about adaptation, I love seeing the creator's life updates and thoughts. It's often either hilarious or ridiculously relatable. I'm going to miss Kazuki Takahashi's.
Edit: Some filler episodes are amazing though. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't have terrible ones, nor did Bleach.
Edit 2: Oof, I actually used to dislike the fruits basket anime for that but at the same time when I compare the new one to the old one. They castrated the humor including the visual humor in the new one.
0:12 I don't have time to watch 3 to 5 anime per season like I used to.. greatly appreciate your recommendation especially introducing Arcane and other unique anime
I think the best adaptation this season is definitely Bocchi the Rock. The Clover Works has elevated a very niche manga to something with mass appeal using means only really possible in animation, which is really impressive. The wellspring of creativity present in the gags isn't its only strong suit. An often less noticed aspect of the anime adaptation is the way it amplifies the emotional moments, and climactic performances are very moving. Most of all, the adaptation really keeps the spirit of the original work, and you can tell it was made people people who really understand and appreciate the sorce material.
I agree Bocchi was very well done & did massive justice to the manga but I think the Bleach war arc sequel should be accredited as well, they brought it back from the dead with gorgeous animation, added a lot of extra amazing content that adds to the story & cut out things that didn't add to it from the manga, they just did so much for all the old Bleach fans & the heart and soul of the franchise is admirable.
I'd be interested in him making a video talking about how much they did to bring it back to glory.
@@neltins5308 i think what gigguk wanted to say from this vid is that even tho mangas being better can be true, it doesnt discount the fact that animation can bring another side to a story that the source material couldnt. This is what is done with bocchi the rock and why alot of people think it has some of the best animation out there. Its not the top of the line fight scenes, or fast moving animation. Its the creativity that cloverworks had to adapt a four panel manga into some of the most interesting and creative pieces of anime in a while
… still pissed at cloverworks for fucking up the promised neverland season 2
although bocchi is a nice change of pace
Same with k-on tbh
Bocchi the rock and Demon Slayer are one of show where anime adapt is better than manga.
Respect for adding that shikamaru scene one of the most emotional scenes in anime period.
Great work on this video. Nice use of certain music. Don't think I didn't notice that FFXIII track. Btw, what was that track used in 2:32? I recognise it, but not sure where from.
I started with anime, then became a manga reader,then started to read manhwa, then become LN fan, and currently I am an WN reader,and I also read fanfics.
😊😊😊
The whole arc with Asuma dying was masterful, but the shogi scene will always live in my head. It was just so well done
Yes, his death was the most impacting one than any other characters in the whole series for me tbh, i didn't see many people talking about it,that arc is just soo well made.
@@mouna4492 “jiraya left the chat”😢
I'm surprised you didn't mention monogatari, the adaptation so faithful that watching it with subtitles is basically just reading a light novel
@yes I don't get it
And still the perfect adaptation
@@90fucking That's a bot.
yea, Monogatari is basically unwatchable, too much text on screen, and too little time to read it all.
Maybe if it got a dub, but apparently it relies so heavy on puns, you basically need to learn Japanese...
Unless you just watch it for the fanservice, and don't actually care for the plot, but pretend to do, because admitting otherwise would be too awkward.
@@janisir4529 bruh
I think both mediums are so important! I love anime, and it gets me to commit to manga. Manga is a big investment. Im the kind of person where if i buy 1 book, i plan to buy them all, i dont like incomplete series.
Sometimes, you need to get the manga so that there can be an anime. If the source material doesn't sell, you'll never get an anime. And the anime can be so important to keep the series running. More interest means more exposure.
I love manga because of its presentation of the story and how it can have so much time to develop characters and story arcs. And i love anime because it can show fights in a cohesive way and make it more intense, along with the creative liberties it can take. Music and good casting can elevate the story so much.
Is the manga better? Yes, but the anime can be better, too.
I miss you doing more of these long form videos
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Bocchi the Rock is a masterpiece in the art of expressing how Hitori actually feels in an animated form.
Also there's the third form of anime, one which the mangaka is so closely involved with the anime production that the anime becomes way better than what the manga can ever hope to be, while without the mangaka's close involvement it might never have reached the height it was aiming for, an example of which would be Made in Abyss S1 and the movies.
By the very nature of being the creator they can see everything move and flow for they have seen it in their minds both still and moving. I can attest to this as someone who is highly imaginative.
I'm a big fan of that 3rd one. The anime adaptation of 86 was so good I started reading the LNs. Found out later that the author was involved in the making of it, which made SO much sense.
After watching anime for 10 years since i was like 8, i did actually turn into a manga reader, cause i couldn't wait a week for half an hour of anime
Same, now I have to wait for a week for few pages
@@nikgokuhil jokes on the monthly published manga
You know what I do? Only watch anime that have finished airing. I have close to 300 on my plan to watch so I don't have to worry about running out of anime to watch. Yes I don't watch seasonal anime as they come out but since I don't really talk about anime with people anyway I like doing it this way. I definitely get that my solution does not work for everyone though.
Had to do a double take when i saw your pfp, i thought i had time traveled
Half an hr? I'll give u 20 mins tops with a song in the beginning and the end
loving the ff13 theme being woven in late in the video :)
I love manga so much it has so much benefits aka very well paced and gets to the point.
I really hope Gigguk is famous enough or well enough connected that anime studios hear this and his other amazing messages on the media. All of his videos are like passionate love letters to the industry that could better illustrate what the hardcore and casual fans are looking for.
as if 1 wannabe anime fan with a UA-cam channel is enough to convince animation studios from listening to his comments on how to make GOOD adaptations or GOOD anime in general
he has shit tastes in anime/manga and he thinks people are influenced by his content? nah, everyone is entitled to their own tastes... it's just his are bad lol
@@martinde-serres8724 💀
@@martinde-serres8724 then wtf is a good anime taste for u?? 💀💀
@@martinde-serres8724 💀skull emoji moment