Keep in mind that airbreathing engines in KSP can easily hit 15 - 30% of Kerbin's orbital velocity, whereas irl airbreathing engines would be lucky to get 5%.
To simplify costs down, I think you can land on the Minimus with your EVA pack, and take off and dock with the remaining mono propellant in the suit. As well, I think there is a certain way to land a Kerbal on their head to survive a fall, so they don't need a parachute xd.
TheNeonGuy It works, but another way. You can land leg-first (probably head-first too) but to survive, you need to slow down with a jetpack. It works best when splashing in the water.
+Cameron Putt I cant get to mun, cuz i like to build heavy heavy cool looking rockets and fly them fast enough to where they have enough velocity to go outside the radar
+Tai Lopez im not going to put a tutorial here, but the gist of it is you get as fast as possible with the jet engine (hopefully somewhere close to 1500 or 2k m/s, since 2k/s is about orbital velocity in ksp), then you turn on some rocket engines to get into orbit. it also must be very aerodynamic in order to break the sound barrier (~340m/s at surface level)
I just realized something after watching this video a second time. "Faster - better - cheaper" was NASA's motto after spending a bunch of money. Same thing went on here it seems. That's a pretty neat reference.
Thanks im glad someone finally noticed it : ) This policy led to a string of pretty disastrous malfunctions before NASA decided to take their time and do things properly again.
Turbo Pumped Yep. I'm reading a book on it. One such disasters was Genisis, which because of money limits didn't have a proper test in the right conditions, and as such the thing that would deploy the parachute failed, and it plumeted to the ground. We still learned from it though, both in the way that cheap rockets are a kinda bad idea, and also what the mission intended to inform us about.
This is amazing, but the fact that you built an ssto weighing only 7 tons more and got to Duna with it was incredible! I can't do either of those ofcourse. ;)
Youre right, but wasnt the shock cone much lighter before ? As i recall the shock cone was so light that it wasnt worth the weight of an extra decoupler ....
One of my favourite pieces. Tell me, do you have a knowledge of classical music? any training at all. The music is exquisite compared to some of the other KSP videos out there. You have earned yourself a subscriber.
It takes nine to twelve days to get to Minmus. Why wait forty-eight days before doing the transfer burn? Were you looking for an orbit plane alignment or something?
It is insane that you make these type of videos, you are really good at Kerbal. But have you lowered the reheating option? There's no way you reentered at 2km/s without a heat shield without overheating.
Why do you waste so much fuel when u start so that it glows like in reentry? is this really the most fuel saving way? what program u use to calculate the asecend? is there any?
He probably uses none and he doesn't waste fuel, he's actually very efficient. Atmosphere drag has been changed since .90 I believe so the flatter your trajectory, the better - less fuel.
MrTiti Here's the info. If you're playing 1.1.3, then launch your craft and start your gravity turn when you have a speed of 100 m/s. When you reach 10 km up, you should be tilted to 45 degrees, that's the trick pretty much. Just go out and try it.
okay thanks a lot. my spacecraft have a very low power margin cause i am at the start of my career. they are so weak they barely get up to speed, however i started the turn at 5km, very gentle. because then the TWR is better. however i never used stabilizers (parts limit= so tilting more than 2deg compared to direction of travel amde it "flip" and twist... :) so highest difficulty. in vanilla with keyboard thats real hard. hradest art at the beginning of career, then easy game. i will try your version!
MrTiti So farm some science and tech up. If you use the Swivel engine, you don't need stabilizers because its a gimbaled engine. I went to the Mun, orbited and came back, with a 30 parts ship AND no maneuver nodes, not even patched conics.
6 ton to Duna and back (landed) stock, with crewcabin and even a jr sciencelab.. can you beat that... Of cause, i did it with the old aerodynamics... was a bit easeare then... well quite a bit.
first of all this craft is not so big and Minmus -> Kerbal orbit makes your speed not enough to burn (like if doing Jool -> Kerbal then ofc you will burn in first secounds)
"Our space program's new motto is now 'Faster, Better, Cheaper-Pick One'."
NASA should figure out something like the bumblebee and then make a second moon to go to with it.
DEATH STAR
+Akita give it a magnetic field and a atmosphere and BOOM
+Akita YAY
That’s no moon
Keep in mind that airbreathing engines in KSP can easily hit 15 - 30% of Kerbin's orbital velocity, whereas irl airbreathing engines would be lucky to get 5%.
To simplify costs down, I think you can land on the Minimus with your EVA pack, and take off and dock with the remaining mono propellant in the suit. As well, I think there is a certain way to land a Kerbal on their head to survive a fall, so they don't need a parachute xd.
that wont work anymore as far as i know
TheNeonGuy It works, but another way. You can land leg-first (probably head-first too) but to survive, you need to slow down with a jetpack. It works best when splashing in the water.
mesoth mesoth oh nice thanks
He did it with the minmus video... oh wait... im too late...
TheNeonGuy definitely won’t work now
Today, this rocket would be much more effective, as the efficiency of the "Spark" engine has been greatly increased, from 300s to 320s.
1.3 tons ^_^
Now it’s 1,5 tonns to eve and back lmao
I rarely get out of the atmosphere with 20 parts.
*****
Well here is the thing; this is a joke, and I usually build planes and ICBMs.
+Cameron Putt I cant get to mun, cuz i like to build heavy heavy cool looking rockets and fly them fast enough to where they have enough velocity to go outside the radar
*****
how can i make a fast plane that can make it to the moon?
+Tai Lopez im not going to put a tutorial here, but the gist of it is you get as fast as possible with the jet engine (hopefully somewhere close to 1500 or 2k m/s, since 2k/s is about orbital velocity in ksp), then you turn on some rocket engines to get into orbit. it also must be very aerodynamic in order to break the sound barrier (~340m/s at surface level)
Bram Swarr
Yeah I got into orbit like last week thx though xD,
Really liked the way you edited the video!
Thanks !
I just realized something after watching this video a second time. "Faster - better - cheaper" was NASA's motto after spending a bunch of money. Same thing went on here it seems. That's a pretty neat reference.
Thanks im glad someone finally noticed it : )
This policy led to a string of pretty disastrous malfunctions before NASA decided to take their time and do things properly again.
Turbo Pumped Yep. I'm reading a book on it. One such disasters was Genisis, which because of money limits didn't have a proper test in the right conditions, and as such the thing that would deploy the parachute failed, and it plumeted to the ground. We still learned from it though, both in the way that cheap rockets are a kinda bad idea, and also what the mission intended to inform us about.
+Eric The Epic and also Gemini 8, where an RCS thruster kept going putting them into an uncontrolled spin
love your minimalist designs... always try this stuff myself
This is amazing, but the fact that you built an ssto weighing only 7 tons more and got to Duna with it was incredible!
I can't do either of those ofcourse. ;)
"Considerable death threats"
Incredible videos mate! I'm just getting into KSP, unreal game!
Your musical accompaniment is incredible!)
Really nice video... fun to watch :)
Nice synchronization!
I wish I lived in KSP. A short but wonderful life I would lead.
Words cannot describe how crazy this is and how crazy enough this is to work...
you have earned a sub
nice job i havnt even gotten to the mun
Editing: 420/420 m9 -IGN gr8 job
That was crazy 4 parts to minmus and back.
What is this !? A rocket for ants!?
Monete no its a rocket for bees you fool
"We are forced to be cost-effective!" With a 24,000 dollar price tag XD
Thats the price with the science instruments , the rocket itself is 9000 so, yes its cost effective .
Ah.
It's cheaper than most large SUVs purchased brand new, and it can go to space on a tank of gas, as opposed to the next city over and back.
It’s ridiculously cheap for both this game and real life
Amazing how this weighs over 4 times as much as the lightest minmus rocket.
I think Hilbella will always be funny.
The music is the flight of the bumblebee too.
gg
5 TONS?! That's the weight of my ultra-light hypersonic aircraft and it runs out of fuel by the time it gets to mach 5.
Bloody hell.
To the minimus, using only MINI ROCKET TOY. :-D
He's basically just an insane Scott Manley
Meanwhile I need a 500 ton ship to get to minmus
I just realised that many of your rockets are named after the music1
I would like to see you do this again, you could probably make it a lot smaller
I wouldn't have even made it into orbit with that spaceship T_T
It begins today
dude... you could give Scott Manley a run for his money!
bysTaXx Gamming not a chance
i got it with 4.8 ton :) but i used rapiers
I used rapiers and external command seat
you should use the chair and eva to the surface and back, leaving most of the fuel in orbit. It is much more efficient.
true , but i wanted to use a lander can - a chair make it more of a glorified jetpack than a space ship.
Love it!
You are bringing the intake to LKO, could it be more optimal by jettisoning it earlier?
Youre right, but wasnt the shock cone much lighter before ?
As i recall the shock cone was so light that it wasnt worth the weight of an extra decoupler ....
I can't get back down with 10 parts
i once went to minimus with 77.5t and came back
Chellenge: Do the smallest rocket you can make for a Tylo Landing!
One of my favourite pieces. Tell me, do you have a knowledge of classical music? any training at all. The music is exquisite compared to some of the other KSP videos out there. You have earned yourself a subscriber.
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
How are you able to do this? You must have a lot of skill.
you should get some ispiration from Bradley whistance
You could save even more if you used your kerbals parachute
i know I will sound like a ksp noob, but how did you transfer the fuel at the 25 second mark?
Hold ALT key while right clicking on the fuel tanks you want to transfer fuel .
thx
to minmus and back?
More like to minimal cost!
I got way too nervous watching this video.
You could have landed without the spacecraft (on minmus) but would that qualify as a landing?
Meanwhile, I have trouble getting into orbit...
AssassinPirateGuy Treasure Yea. I really need to
1. git
2. good
3. skrub
thats still a big craft
add 10+20% and you can get to dunas moon and back
How long would a mission like that last, good sir?
for me - one hour, for Hilbella - 69 days.
Turbo Pumped Very nice! That's awesome. Keep up the great work, sire!
heh... 69
Only 5 tons? How does that ever even get off the ground, let alone out of the atmosphere?
Does it require more power to get to minmus than gilly? I saw your video where you got to gilly with a 2.9 ton spacecraft.
About the same , but its much harder to get the navigation right for Gilly
It takes nine to twelve days to get to Minmus. Why wait forty-eight days before doing the transfer burn? Were you looking for an orbit plane alignment or something?
Ну что теперь скажешь Илон Маск
If this was in real life though
How
It is insane that you make these type of videos, you are really good at Kerbal. But have you lowered the reheating option? There's no way you reentered at 2km/s without a heat shield without overheating.
No ,I always play with normal settings , but this was done in 1.04 - lander cans could take more heat then.
Ah okay! I'm loving all your videos man, it's crazy how efficient your SSTOs are.
If we can do this in KSP, we can do it in real life!
Right?
try doing that in normal campaign mode with same gear in v1.0.5 , you will fail on re-entry with that can
Aaaand then he proceeds to go to gilly with a 2.9 ton craft....
would have preferred the piano version
Why do you waste so much fuel when u start so that it glows like in reentry? is this really the most fuel saving way? what program u use to calculate the asecend? is there any?
He probably uses none and he doesn't waste fuel, he's actually very efficient. Atmosphere drag has been changed since .90 I believe so the flatter your trajectory, the better - less fuel.
Zamolxes77
thank you for your reply, it would be good he would reply too, or anyone who can backup some info with the ascend
MrTiti Here's the info. If you're playing 1.1.3, then launch your craft and start your gravity turn when you have a speed of 100 m/s. When you reach 10 km up, you should be tilted to 45 degrees, that's the trick pretty much. Just go out and try it.
okay thanks a lot.
my spacecraft have a very low power margin cause i am at the start of my career. they are so weak they barely get up to speed, however i started the turn at 5km, very gentle. because then the TWR is better. however i never used stabilizers (parts limit= so tilting more than 2deg compared to direction of travel amde it "flip" and twist... :) so highest difficulty. in vanilla with keyboard thats real hard. hradest art at the beginning of career, then easy game.
i will try your version!
MrTiti So farm some science and tech up. If you use the Swivel engine, you don't need stabilizers because its a gimbaled engine.
I went to the Mun, orbited and came back, with a 30 parts ship AND no maneuver nodes, not even patched conics.
what do you mean by stock rocket?
IndustrialDonut stock means no mods so a stock rocket is just a rocket without mod parts
What was the first engine you used?????
josh red The whiplash turbojet engine. It looked like that before KSP 1.0.5 maybe
PotaTRON Thank you!
josh red Welcome! :) Oh, and maybe they're heavier too since 1.0.5.
PotaTRON I play on Console and I think console KSP is 1.0.3
6 ton to Duna and back (landed) stock, with crewcabin and even a jr sciencelab.. can you beat that...
Of cause, i did it with the old aerodynamics... was a bit easeare then... well quite a bit.
Still easy as shit
I think it would be hard now with the new effect on they ion engines
What new ion engine effect ?
kris fox Its that it gett weeker in atmosverese... well "new"... its quite a few versions back
matsv201 ok
why would you need a bigger rocket to get to minmus than to get to gilly?
It has a much heavier cockpit + I was less experienced back then .
oh ok.
Long live to ESA and Turbo Pumped! hehehe
What is the 1st stage engine?
the old style turboramjet
Turbo Pumped oh make sense. Thx
no mun gravity assists? what is this, kerbal spending program?
This is nothing! Somebody flew to Gilly with a rocket that weighed less than 3 tons!
+tyler black You do realize that the person who did that was turbo pumped ? the guy that did this ?
+joey grieco And this is an older video ?
joey grieco That's the joke
the guy that went ot gilly with a 2.9 ton craft is this guy ....
I cant even orbit earth.................................................................................
+AntiqueMiner i recommend watch Scott Manleys career tutorial videos, helps alot to get far in this game
I self taught my self to orbit i can kinda do it know
+AntiqueMiner I assume you mean Kerbin, but Earth with the RSS mod is indeed extremely difficult.
WTF This should burn during reentry.
first of all this craft is not so big and Minmus -> Kerbal orbit makes your speed not enough to burn (like if doing Jool -> Kerbal then ofc you will burn in first secounds)
bet you cant do a 10 ton rocket to the mun and minmus!
It requires more to even land on the mun
+Matt Malenda could do a flyby of the mun and still land on minmus easily enough
Scratchy314 maybe
Elon musk wants to know your location
u r chiter but music is amazeing
Meanwhile hazard ish made it to eeloo with a 3.6 ton rocket
Thats not a SSTO........
+Max Hammerum He didnt say it was
+David Smith Oh yeah thats right :D
Build small or go home.
0:26 mod name?
theres no mods
+Turbo Pumped u can tell me how to do that?
+xxabudxx1 Alt+Right Click on both tanks.
wtf
You can get anywhere less than this
if you use cheats
El Stupido Hazardish
over engineered? seriously?