Your breakdown of the fins for this board could not be better. I felt the exact same thing surfing 4-6ft surf this weekend. Quad was the way to way to go on the smaller waves, but once it got head high the tail felt a little to lose as a quad. Based on it's liveliness, I just didn't have the confidence that it would hold if I want to do a powerful bottom turn and snap off the top in those conditions. I opted to just race down the line since I couldn't trust it. I got out and put in a large AM thruster set with a F8 center fin and the tail felt way more predictable and reliable in head high and above waves. I was able to push hard through my turns with confidence and the board performed predictably and beautifully. Thanks again for all the hard work you do making these reviews. They are epic. I know it's a labor of love, but its still work haha. Cheers, Ben
I had a 5’2” Seaside and loved it but I also had a 5’2” Classic Fish shape and I love both these boards but I sold my seaside to get the mashup and wow! I absolutely am loving the mashup as it has that speed and ease of catching waves similar to my fish style boards but I can implement some more up and down performance into my surfing and I found the board really helps yah dig those rails in on a turn and can get tight quick snaps in that head high and below wave size. I haven’t tried it in anything bigger yet but looking forward to trying as a 2+1 stabiliser after this review as I have just been riding my H4 fin thruster setup which has been super fast and responsive. Solid board I love it!
This board is highly recommended!.... This past week i had a board consultation with Noel. He helped me to dial my liter range and also helped me to decide on which board to get so i can progress with my surfing. Although it was not cheap, the consultation ended up saving me money so i won't buy the wrong board and spend money on something i don't need. Noel recommended me on the Mashup and i was able to get it this week and surfed it today. I have to say that it was spot on! The size, the liters, the fins everything worked perfect(!) for me and i caught plenty of waves and had a LOT of fun on this board. Personally, I would highly recommend having a consultation with Noel if you can afford it - it will save you a lot of money (in the long run) and you'll be able to get the right surfboard for you. Thank you Noel!
I purchased the Mashup, with the recommended "Surf N Show P-Twins+1" this combination is magic. Thank you, Noel for recomending this fin setup. I am so stoked with this setup surfing 1-5 foot faces. Highly recommend purchasing these fins for the Mashup.
I am 150 pounds and I rode the 5’4” mashup and I felt like it was a little too wide and big for me. It has a lot of foam so it catches waves super easy! But did not feel like a board that I would want to ride often. I think this would be good for people that like fish style boards.
Been riding this for a couple months now and absolutely love it - quickly became my daily driver of choice and is just heaps of fun to ride! Also goes great as a twin + trailer too, but punchier surf it's quad all the way!
I was hoping my mashup would be a one board quiver for travel but instead I happily leave it at home and take my seaside and standard high performance shortboard still.
Love the channel, but there is room for one element that would greatly improve the relevance of your reviews to most of your subscribers. Right now, you test boards at Trestles and sometimes a wave pool. 99% of your viewers are surfing average beach break on most days. It would be great if you would add footage and and assessment of the board’s performance in everyday waves to the existing format. Then we would be able to see how it flows in optimal surf, but also how it realistically goes in everyday surf. It would be hugely helpful. Thanks for considering!
I surf Beachies occasionally… not my favorite waves to surf anymore. What I feel on the boards I review in the pools and point breaks will translate to Beachies too. Sorry…. I only do Beachies every now and then. It takes to long get a review done at quick close out Beachies
@@surfnshowreviews7777 would take you 8 years to do a proper review at a typical beachbreak. Please don't lower the bar. Also, why the hell would anyone want to surf shittier waves. on purpose.
Great surfing as always. Thank you so much for such an outstanding review Noel. I have the Seaside but I was waiting for your review on the Mashup before commiting to one. After your review and the way the board surf under you, i am definitely getting one.
spoke to Dan Mann at a FW demo day…he said initial production and team rider boards had the plugs to side bcz it would prevent rip-outs more bcz more foam. but newer production we’re changed to center based on feedback, some goofys didn’t like it on the left, but also, some ppl had to cutout chunks of their traction pad. Also since Mashup is a shallow swallow, the plug could be placed up more + it’s for more smaller weaker waves-rip-safe.
Great review as usual Noel, congratulations. How do you compare the Mashup with the BV2 and the RW? Which is your fav for waves up to head high in average conditions?
The BV2 is faster and offers more performance in 2-6' surf. In 1-3' surf I like the BV2 best out of the 3 boards mentioned with my Pivot Twin + Trailer. The RW out performs the Mashup and BV2 in 3-6' surf. I highly recommend you go to our website www.surfnshow.com and look at the star ratings of these boards so you can compare them side by side.
Great review on the Mashup Noel. You pretty much nailed it. I’m riding the 5’9 which, as mentioned in another comment, has a subtle but distinctly different line to the shorter ones. It’s great and fun and held well in sucky beach breaks. I must admit I prefer my Fishbeard in similar waves - but it’s still very good. It probably has a lot to do with the helium construction which is very different to PU. Sometimes better (catching waves), sometimes not (rail work). Looking forward to a review of the CI Free Scrubber. That looks like a lot of fun. Also seems like a good compliment/alternative to Fishbeard. Sort of that same but different category. Is the Free Scrubber on your list mate?
@dbthreshold I'm about to buy a new board and I like the mashup so much. However I can't find of a reason where i would take it instead of my fishbeard in below-average waves. Can you chime in? I'd be very thankful!
Hey, which board has best perfomance for an intermediate in very weak waves? Thinking about the mashup or the california twin. Are there better options?
The 96 offers more performance for me but the Mashup might be a tad faster down the line. If I had to choose between them both I would go 96..... I love to ride it as a pure Twin Fin with my HP Twins.
Hi! Great review. Always love to see you shred all those different types of boards! I was wondering about the durability of the Helium construction. Is this durable or does it dings easily?
One thing I don't understand is how people say these boards can't handle in double over head surf. I have caught bombs on the glazer and seaside without any problems. I would not hesitate to take this board out on a 8-10ft day at blacks
Great review Noel!! What would be your board recommendation for an intermediate surfing trying to do more top to bottom surfing in small weak waves? Sounds like this Mashup is a good option, but sounded like you're a big fan of the RNF96 too, or is there another board you would recommend ahead of these two?
The Mashup is a great board for progressive surfing in small mushier waves. I also like the 96 too. Get the Mashup.... the Helium tech is light, responsive, and durable with less pressure dents.
Awesome review!! Probably a pass on this one for me too much overlap with the seaside IMO. Could see it going better in bigger waves if it was LFT as I also find the Helium just gets too skimmy and chatters too much when there is some decent power.
@Craig Phillips agreed on the seaside. However, I also picked up one in the woolite and it handled chatter and slightly bigger conditions noticeably better. Actually have both in the quiver. Interesting to hear about the Mashup though
The 96 is way more versatile… it goes good in 2-8’ surf. That’s pretty amazing considering it’s outline and design for a fish type board. I personally only like the Mashup in head high waves and below.
sick vid noel, i just recently picked up a firewire seaside and its going great 🤙 quick question for ya, do you have any recommendations for any surf spots for a beginner/intermediate surfer in the south orange county to north san diego area? thanks for any sorts of answers! yewwww🤙
Hey man, thank you so much for all the content that you create. The Information is priceless! Do you find the mash-up in the helium corky at all, and is wind an issue with this board?. How does it compare to the JS sub-zero (when will you review this)? 🙂
Thanks for the review! Wondering would you rather size this board up or down overall? I’m between the 5 4 and 5 5. Both pretty much in my wheelhouse and not a ton difference dimension wise other than liters but it’s a tough decision as they are out of stock everywhere and I can’t get my hands on one to compare. Any info would be appreciated!!
South Florida…I’m 5 7 and 158lb. Waves generally Under head high. Got a 5 7 dominator 2 and feels a bit on the bigger side at 29.4 liters. Just stuck between two sizes with the mashup!!!! Thanks for the answer by the way your reviews are awesome!! Leaning towards the 5 4 just didn’t want to be sinking it
@@scotts5916 Here are some volume ranges for your weight at different skill levels. Pro/Exp = 25-27L Advanced 27-29L Intermediate= 30-31L If your Advanced or solid intermediate and a strong paddler then you can go 5’4”. The 5’5” would be my suggestion for smaller FL waves. It’s less volume compared to your D2 and it 2” shorter so it will be more manageable for sure.
Great review! Board looked really responsive & spicy under foot!!! Looking forward to the Mashup, DOM 2.0 & Seaside comparison! Any chance you might review the new Firewire Sweet Potato???
Hi Noel, what would be your best 3 board quiver (1 groveler, 1 performance short board and 1 step up) and fin set up for someone 1.75m and 165pounds? Cheers
I will be doing content soon on my 3 board quiver. Stay tuned…. For now go to our website and check on all my favorites in each category. Surfnshow.com
Great review. Definitely looking at getting the 5'4". Did you try the Machado pivot fins in the board? Can't wait for the comparison review with the seaside and the dominator 2.
Awesome review Noel. I'm 5'4 154 lbs. I'm bummed they dont have a 5'3 Mashup it would put it right at 26L which is my sweetspot for shortboards. I've been riding a 5'3 seaside. Would you suggest a 5'2 mashup? I'm worried that 24L would be too small. Thanks again!
No sorry I don’t recommend the 5’2”… it will be too loose and hard to control. Get a different board. I suggest the No Brainer if you can find one or the Black Vulture 2.
G'day Noel. After about 8 years away from surfing following lower back surgery, I have returned to the sport I love since starting at age 10. I've started back on HI Mid 6 boards, a 7'0'" (40 litres) and 7'6" (48 litres) to get up onto waves quicker, as I'm a bit slower to pop-up now, and getting older haha. I'm really loving the 7'6". I am 55 years of age, 5'11" tall and weigh 180-185lbs. I want to add a shorter board to my quiver. I am tossing up between the Mashup and the Dominator 2.0. Although starting over again, I would rate myself now as intermediate, but need a little extra foam to get on waves quicker. I generally surf beach breaks anywhere from knee to head high. Which of the 2 boards would you recommend? I have ruled out the Seaside as a 3rd option because I would like the option of having tri or quad set-up. Also, I am considering the Revo as an outside 4th option contender. Interested in your thoughts. Your reviews are awesome by the way. Very informative and based on extensive experience in the water. Cheers, Marty
Hey noel! Im thinking on getting one of your fin sets. What are the material of the fins like? Are they stiff, flexy or in between. What are to pros and cons of flexy fins and stiff fins?
They are G10 fiberglass offering consistency and predictability. Not to much flex and not to stiff. Flexy fins offer pop but not constant through turns. The tips flex out on my and cause the board to bog on big rail turns. I prefer G10 fiberglass or Carbon fins for the consistency and predictability.
Has anyone else felt the Mashup is a little harder to put on rail due to its width even though its shorter? In some of the youtube videos it seems the board stays flatter during turns for most people especially frontside compared to say a CI Rocket Wide board. I'm 5'9 160 lbs and with the 5'4 Mashup with stock dimensions 27.1 L volume, AM twin fin+trailer setup and I feel like my turns are a bit flatter especially on more down the line waves but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I also have the 5'5 Rocket wide with stock dimensions 25.8 L volume and Roberts large raked tri-fins and feel I can put it on rail way easier. The major difference I feel between the two is on a smaller really clean day the Mashup seems to glide into a weaker wave way easier where as I may have missed that wave entirely with the rocket wide. I'm debating whether to keep the Rocket wide or the Mashup buy maybe I need more time on the Mashup (only three sessions on it) hmmm.
Hey Noel, does the helium construction feel “floatier”, like did the 5’2 at 24.9L feel more like 26? Im wondering if the 5’6 at 30.1 will feel more like 31ish.
Hi, thank you very much for your work. Did you ever tried the sub xero (by JS) ? i am between the mashup and the sub xero and cant decide what to buy... can you help me with that?
great review with good content would like to know your thoughts on sweet potato helium to replace a mal on small weak waves just to keep surfing when conditions are pretty average. im 5"10 and 78 kg looking at the 5"6 and 5"8 but not sure it does what they say it does. would be thankful for your insight.
Not sure about the SP. I’m sure it’s fast in small mushy waves and keep you surfing in weak waves. I like the Seaside better due to its performance compared to the SP style board.
Hey Noel, thanks for the solid review. I have one question. I’m currently have a Astro pop xl 6’6” at 46.5 liters. I’m 6’4” 205lbs and the board has really helped me learn how to link turns but now I want to step down. Would you suggest a 6’2” mashup at 41liters or a 6’4” mashup at 44liters? What would be a great step down from my Astro pop? Thanks for your time!
You should review some Album surfboard models. The PLASMIC is an insanly fun groveler. The spray you can creat with that little board is off the chart. And the Twinsman you would love!! Com'on do itt!! ;) Great work as usual thank Noel!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Insane. Your reviews have influenced nearly all of my surfboard purchases from FireWire, Lost, JS, Slater Designs, CI etc. That's revenue lost for them and valuable content lost for us consumers trying to find the right boards in this saturated surfboard market. @Album Surf send this man some boards to review!
@@jennmoramarco9610 mostly yes... Or other reviewers here like Thomyesurfs, Craig, Skipper... These people provide great knowledge for surfers, specially in my case living inland without a local spot or shapers.
What boards are you considering for this type of surf? For Small Wave performance boards I like the RW Squash, MG Squash, NB2, Dominator 2 suits my style of surfing as a Small Wave performance board too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 RW squash, NB2, and even the BV2… the thing is, I have a gremlin but sometimes I feel that is holding me back on performance on small waves .. I’m 5,9 .. my gremlin was 5,7 .. and i just sold it and went shorter at same gremlin but in 5,5 looking to get better performance .. but don’t know if I’ll be better with a SWPB to improve in small waves 1 to 3 ft .. For better surf I have a shadow .. I’m an intermediate looking to improve lol
I had decided to go mashup based on lack of spray on promo clips including Rob Ms. then my buddy sent me pics of spray flying all over the place on his seaside so now I’m confused.
@surfnshowreviews7777 Looking for a everyday board for small to medium messy onshore mostly softer shorebreak. Mashup or CI PodMod? Are they at all similar?
I have only had this board for 2 surfs and may I say as a thruster it sucks! It's about as loose as a freight train. I will try it as a twin next but I think it needs some v in the tail.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 That’s a downer, would love to know your thoughts. Started watching you reviews few years back and I gotta say I followed a lot of your advice on fin choice and set up and it’s really changed my surfing. Difference between a great board or a good board and a dud sometimes is easy a a new set of fins. Thanks again. Should do a OZ trip bro 😉
Hey Noel, I am looking for a board I can pretty much use in any waves 1-6' both softer and punchier waves. I was hoping you'd have any input on the Mashup, the CI BnW, and the Pyzalien 2 because I was trying to decide between these three! I currently love my Go Fish so I was wondering of these three boards which you'd recommend (of course these three are much more performance heavy than a fish).
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Interesting - I guess that means they've assessed that the risk of a bad review is not worth the chance of a good review. That's a tricky situation when you rely on shapers sending their boards to you for free. Have you ever considered doing a deal with a couple of retail surf shops? Mention them in the review and they can resell the sled after the review?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for reply, I have the F.E and it's a awesome board, am looking at purchasing the Mashup just didn't want to get it if it was too similar👍
Of all the footage out there still not a fan of this model. The release is subdued and the board looks too small for you. Typical template overall. Just my observation.
@@adamwaz5615 he played with deep double concaves before. Not sure who applied this design first though but I would not say he is coping anything with this model.
@@bernatANDORRA the double agent just has a normal deep double concave. When we talk about double barrel we are talking two concaves in the one concave eg Tomo. Just saying.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel, great review, was looking forward to hearing what you had to say. So you think the Mashup and Astro Pop are comparable boards? In other words, is the Mashup competing directly with the Astro Pop or are they boards for slightly different conditions? I also noticed that you don't give Pyzel boards the best score in durability (2.5 stars for the Pyzalien, 3.5 for the Astro Pop). Given that, on the other hand, Firewire boards are probably among the best built, most durable boards, what construction would you recommend in Pyzel that at least comes close to that of FW (possibly excluding black arts technology as it's probably 500$ more expensive on average that a FW helium construction)? Cheers!
@@dlangpap Mashup might offer a bit more performance top to bottom compared to the AP. The AP is more of a Groveler Performance Fish like the Seaside. The AP out performs the Seaside in the pocket as a performance fish. Pretty much all PU/Poly, PU/Epoxy Resin, EPS/Epoxy constructions are similar in durability to me. PU/Poly with team light glassing is NOT durable at all…. It’s pretty bad actually. JS uses Burford blanks out of Aus for their PU/Poly boards are next level durable compared to anything here in the US. Firewire is the most durable for pressure dents, then Datk Arts and Varial Foam with Epoxy Resin. Varial Foam with Epoxy resin doesn’t load or flex very well from what I remember but no pressure dents in 4 sessions. Varial foam started doing infused glassing so they might be better now. XTR is also next level Construction that offers better durability compared to PU and most other EPS/Epoxy builds.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel for the detailed answer. Now I’m a bit torn because the Mashup does seem to be the better choice for me, both for conditions and construction. However, you don’t seem that enthused about it (also in comparison to the AP which was among your favorites if I remember correctly), so the choice is not that clear. Wish Pyzel had better constructions that are not as expensive as Dark Arts or that FW would re-take making Pyzel shapes…
I have a set of quad keel fins in honeycomb more or less identical to the Machados in template. These really lit the board up for me - same for the Dom2. Recommend trying your Machados if you like something drivey 👍🏼
Your breakdown of the fins for this board could not be better. I felt the exact same thing surfing 4-6ft surf this weekend. Quad was the way to way to go on the smaller waves, but once it got head high the tail felt a little to lose as a quad. Based on it's liveliness, I just didn't have the confidence that it would hold if I want to do a powerful bottom turn and snap off the top in those conditions. I opted to just race down the line since I couldn't trust it. I got out and put in a large AM thruster set with a F8 center fin and the tail felt way more predictable and reliable in head high and above waves. I was able to push hard through my turns with confidence and the board performed predictably and beautifully. Thanks again for all the hard work you do making these reviews. They are epic. I know it's a labor of love, but its still work haha.
Cheers,
Ben
I had a 5’2” Seaside and loved it but I also had a 5’2” Classic Fish shape and I love both these boards but I sold my seaside to get the mashup and wow! I absolutely am loving the mashup as it has that speed and ease of catching waves similar to my fish style boards but I can implement some more up and down performance into my surfing and I found the board really helps yah dig those rails in on a turn and can get tight quick snaps in that head high and below wave size. I haven’t tried it in anything bigger yet but looking forward to trying as a 2+1 stabiliser after this review as I have just been riding my H4 fin thruster setup which has been super fast and responsive. Solid board I love it!
How much you weigh?
This board is highly recommended!.... This past week i had a board consultation with Noel.
He helped me to dial my liter range and also helped me to decide on which board to get so i can progress with my surfing.
Although it was not cheap, the consultation ended up saving me money so i won't buy the wrong board and spend money on something i don't need.
Noel recommended me on the Mashup and i was able to get it this week and surfed it today. I have to say that it was spot on!
The size, the liters, the fins everything worked perfect(!) for me and i caught plenty of waves and had a LOT of fun on this board.
Personally, I would highly recommend having a consultation with Noel if you can afford it - it will save you a lot of money (in the long run) and you'll be able to get the right surfboard for you.
Thank you Noel!
Yea Roi… so stoked the Mashup is 🔥🔥🔥 for you!! Thank you for the kind words and testimonial concerning my services. This post made my day!! Cheers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you for taking the time with me brother I appreciate your help and you definitely deserve this review!
What fins are you riding with it?
Great honest review as always Noel, bravo!
Interesting that it actually does well with 3 fin options, given the right conditions.
I purchased the Mashup, with the recommended "Surf N Show P-Twins+1" this combination is magic. Thank you, Noel for recomending this fin setup.
I am so stoked with this setup surfing 1-5 foot faces. Highly recommend purchasing these fins for the Mashup.
So stoked you found a magic set up!!! Cheers for posting
Ive had this board for a year and loved nearly ever surf on it, great review and I’m keen to swap fins around on smaller days.
I am 150 pounds and I rode the 5’4” mashup and I felt like it was a little too wide and big for me. It has a lot of foam so it catches waves super easy! But did not feel like a board that I would want to ride often. I think this would be good for people that like fish style boards.
Boards too big for you. I'm 156 lbs and i ride the stock 5'2. Love this board.
@@kurt6221 I’ve always wanted to try the 5’2 and could never find one. I’m glad to hear that the 5’2 works better. I had a feeling it would. 🤙
Been riding this for a couple months now and absolutely love it - quickly became my daily driver of choice and is just heaps of fun to ride! Also goes great as a twin + trailer too, but punchier surf it's quad all the way!
Great!
I was hoping my mashup would be a one board quiver for travel but instead I happily leave it at home and take my seaside and standard high performance shortboard still.
which equals two boards
What's wrong with the mash-up
Mashup works fine as a 1 board does all. I take mine on trips to Portugal to cover waist to overhead.
Thought this was a "Mashup" of all the Firewires you've ever surfed... boy was I in for a surprise! 💥🤯
Love the channel, but there is room for one element that would greatly improve the relevance of your reviews to most of your subscribers. Right now, you test boards at Trestles and sometimes a wave pool. 99% of your viewers are surfing average beach break on most days. It would be great if you would add footage and and assessment of the board’s performance in everyday waves to the existing format. Then we would be able to see how it flows in optimal surf, but also how it realistically goes in everyday surf. It would be hugely helpful. Thanks for considering!
I surf Beachies occasionally… not my favorite waves to surf anymore. What I feel on the boards I review in the pools and point breaks will translate to Beachies too. Sorry…. I only do Beachies every now and then. It takes to long get a review done at quick close out Beachies
@@surfnshowreviews7777 would take you 8 years to do a proper review at a typical beachbreak. Please don't lower the bar. Also, why the hell would anyone want to surf shittier waves. on purpose.
Great surfing as always. Thank you so much for such an outstanding review Noel. I have the Seaside but I was waiting for your review on the Mashup before commiting to one. After your review and the way the board surf under you, i am definitely getting one.
Curious how you like it compared to seaside, is one better for 1-3ft waves than the other?
I have it got it yet but some of my friends are using it in the 3-5 feet range and they love the board
D2 and Seaside is a great two board quiver. The Mashup seems kind of unnecessary, so looking forward to your comparison
Loved the review, can’t wait to see the comparison video between the three! Side Note: would love to hear your thoughts on the Arakawa Half Pint.
Wow- so knowledgeable. Really connected with this breakdown
Question: Why the differences in leash plug placements in the same model MASHUP Boards?
Seen some right/left/ and center.....?
Great question… not sure why
spoke to Dan Mann at a FW demo day…he said initial production and team rider boards had the plugs to side bcz it would prevent rip-outs more bcz more foam.
but newer production we’re changed to center based on feedback, some goofys didn’t like it on the left, but also, some ppl had to cutout chunks of their traction pad. Also since Mashup is a shallow swallow, the plug could be placed up more + it’s for more smaller weaker waves-rip-safe.
Great review as usual Noel, congratulations.
How do you compare the Mashup with the BV2 and the RW? Which is your fav for waves up to head high in average conditions?
The BV2 is faster and offers more performance in 2-6' surf. In 1-3' surf I like the BV2 best out of the 3 boards mentioned with my Pivot Twin + Trailer. The RW out performs the Mashup and BV2 in 3-6' surf. I highly recommend you go to our website www.surfnshow.com and look at the star ratings of these boards so you can compare them side by side.
@ALL great question , thanks
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you so much for your answer.
Do you deliver fins to Bali?
@@all3318 Yes
@@surfnshowreviews7777 what about the RNF96 ? Is better than those 3 boards ??
Great review on the Mashup Noel. You pretty much nailed it. I’m riding the 5’9 which, as mentioned in another comment, has a subtle but distinctly different line to the shorter ones. It’s great and fun and held well in sucky beach breaks. I must admit I prefer my Fishbeard in similar waves - but it’s still very good. It probably has a lot to do with the helium construction which is very different to PU. Sometimes better (catching waves), sometimes not (rail work).
Looking forward to a review of the CI Free Scrubber. That looks like a lot of fun. Also seems like a good compliment/alternative to Fishbeard. Sort of that same but different category.
Is the Free Scrubber on your list mate?
Not sure at this time. Britt made me a prototype last Summer but he has not mentioned if he is making me new ones for review.
Thank you for sharing your post :)
Yeah I’m also hoping for a ci free scrubber review !🙏🏽
@dbthreshold I'm about to buy a new board and I like the mashup so much. However I can't find of a reason where i would take it instead of my fishbeard in below-average waves. Can you chime in? I'd be very thankful!
Hey, which board has best perfomance for an intermediate in very weak waves? Thinking about the mashup or the california twin. Are there better options?
Mash Up
Hey Noel, awesome review! Currently torn on this and the rnf96. What are your thoughts on the two? Thanks in advance 🙏
The 96 offers more performance for me but the Mashup might be a tad faster down the line. If I had to choose between them both I would go 96..... I love to ride it as a pure Twin Fin with my HP Twins.
Fosho thanks for the advice!
Great review Noel. How would you compare it to a CI Neck Beard II (or even the NB3).? thanks
NB2 and NB3 offer more performance in the pocket. I also like the Dom 2 better in performance compared to the Mashup
Any chance you’re doing a review on the JS Sub Xero HYFI 2.0?
No sorry… the folks at JS are not sending boards for review right now.
Love Noel’s reviews! 👍🏼👍🏼
@@matthewherren Yewww!! Cheers
Hi Noel, what would you choose between the cymatic and mashup?
I like the Cymatic better as a Daily Driver. I like the Mashup better in 1-3’ surf out of the two boards
Hi Noel thanks for this review! Are you planning to do a review on the Firewire Too Fish?
No sorry
Hi! Great review. Always love to see you shred all those different types of boards! I was wondering about the durability of the Helium construction. Is this durable or does it dings easily?
I find the Firewire boards to be pretty durable… especially less pressure dent’s compared to most other EPS/Epoxy boards.
One thing I don't understand is how people say these boards can't handle in double over head surf. I have caught bombs on the glazer and seaside without any problems. I would not hesitate to take this board out on a 8-10ft day at blacks
Great review Noel!! What would be your board recommendation for an intermediate surfing trying to do more top to bottom surfing in small weak waves? Sounds like this Mashup is a good option, but sounded like you're a big fan of the RNF96 too, or is there another board you would recommend ahead of these two?
The Mashup is a great board for progressive surfing in small mushier waves. I also like the 96 too. Get the Mashup.... the Helium tech is light, responsive, and durable with less pressure dents.
Awesome review!! Probably a pass on this one for me too much overlap with the seaside IMO. Could see it going better in bigger waves if it was LFT as I also find the Helium just gets too skimmy and chatters too much when there is some decent power.
Agree Helium just to light ! LFT would love to see that !
@Craig Phillips agreed on the seaside. However, I also picked up one in the woolite and it handled chatter and slightly bigger conditions noticeably better. Actually have both in the quiver. Interesting to hear about the Mashup though
Hi Noel . Thanks for the review. How do you compare this to the rnf96?
The 96 is way more versatile… it goes good in 2-8’ surf. That’s pretty amazing considering it’s outline and design for a fish type board.
I personally only like the Mashup in head high waves and below.
sick vid noel, i just recently picked up a firewire seaside and its going great 🤙 quick question for ya, do you have any recommendations for any surf spots for a beginner/intermediate surfer in the south orange county to north san diego area? thanks for any sorts of answers! yewwww🤙
Get on some longer waves like Church’s, Old Man’s, Tarmar, Swamis, and Cardiff
Hey man, thank you so much for all the content that you create. The Information is priceless! Do you find the mash-up in the helium corky at all, and is wind an issue with this board?. How does it compare to the JS sub-zero (when will you review this)? 🙂
Mashup is not corky if you get the right size. Yes, it can be hard to manage in choppy surf. Sub Zero review will drop in a month or two.
Hey Noel which board do you recommend for NJ waves along with wave pools the Mash up or the dominator 2?
D2 in the pools with Twin + Trsiker. If NJ is small and mushy most of the time then Mash Up
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel as always you’re the best
Thanks for the review! Wondering would you rather size this board up or down overall? I’m between the 5 4 and 5 5. Both pretty much in my wheelhouse and not a ton difference dimension wise other than liters but it’s a tough decision as they are out of stock everywhere and I can’t get my hands on one to compare. Any info would be appreciated!!
@@scotts5916 How tall are you and what size waves are you buying this for? What are the waves like at your home breaks?
South Florida…I’m 5 7 and 158lb. Waves generally Under head high. Got a 5 7 dominator 2 and feels a bit on the bigger side at 29.4 liters. Just stuck between two sizes with the mashup!!!! Thanks for the answer by the way your reviews are awesome!! Leaning towards the 5 4 just didn’t want to be sinking it
@@scotts5916 Here are some volume ranges for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Exp = 25-27L
Advanced 27-29L
Intermediate= 30-31L
If your Advanced or solid intermediate and a strong paddler then you can go 5’4”. The 5’5” would be my suggestion for smaller FL waves. It’s less volume compared to your D2 and it 2” shorter so it will be more manageable for sure.
Thank you sir!!
Hi Noel. How would you compare this One to a Lost pjhp and a ci ultra? Thanks
Go to our website and you can compare two boards at a time with our 5 star rating. Www.surfnshow.com
Hey Noel! For under head high wave on the mushy side wish board would you recommend between the no brainer and the mash up? Thanks
If yours front footed surfer then I say Mashup. If your a back footed surfer then I say No Brainer
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel, make sense. Would you go puddle jumper hp instead of the 2? Better top end performance?
Great review! Board looked really responsive & spicy under foot!!!
Looking forward to the Mashup, DOM 2.0 & Seaside comparison!
Any chance you might review the new Firewire Sweet Potato???
No on the Sweet Potato… not my style board
which u think is a more high pro board... mashup or rnf 96?
@@thedarwinsnatchers6745 96
Hi Noel, what would be your best 3 board quiver (1 groveler, 1 performance short board and 1 step up) and fin set up for someone 1.75m and 165pounds? Cheers
I will be doing content soon on my 3 board quiver. Stay tuned…. For now go to our website and check on all my favorites in each category. Surfnshow.com
Great review. Definitely looking at getting the 5'4". Did you try the Machado pivot fins in the board? Can't wait for the comparison review with the seaside and the dominator 2.
Awesome review Noel. I'm 5'4 154 lbs. I'm bummed they dont have a 5'3 Mashup it would put it right at 26L which is my sweetspot for shortboards. I've been riding a 5'3 seaside. Would you suggest a 5'2 mashup? I'm worried that 24L would be too small. Thanks again!
No sorry I don’t recommend the 5’2”… it will be too loose and hard to control. Get a different board. I suggest the No Brainer if you can find one or the Black Vulture 2.
G'day Noel.
After about 8 years away from surfing following lower back surgery, I have returned to the sport I love since starting at age 10. I've started back on HI Mid 6 boards, a 7'0'" (40 litres) and 7'6" (48 litres) to get up onto waves quicker, as I'm a bit slower to pop-up now, and getting older haha. I'm really loving the 7'6". I am 55 years of age, 5'11" tall and weigh 180-185lbs. I want to add a shorter board to my quiver. I am tossing up between the Mashup and the Dominator 2.0. Although starting over again, I would rate myself now as intermediate, but need a little extra foam to get on waves quicker. I generally surf beach breaks anywhere from knee to head high. Which of the 2 boards would you recommend? I have ruled out the Seaside as a 3rd option because I would like the option of having tri or quad set-up. Also, I am considering the Revo as an outside 4th option contender. Interested in your thoughts. Your reviews are awesome by the way. Very informative and based on extensive experience in the water.
Cheers, Marty
Hey noel! Im thinking on getting one of your fin sets.
What are the material of the fins like? Are they stiff, flexy or in between.
What are to pros and cons of flexy fins and stiff fins?
They are G10 fiberglass offering consistency and predictability. Not to much flex and not to stiff.
Flexy fins offer pop but not constant through turns. The tips flex out on my and cause the board to bog on big rail turns. I prefer G10 fiberglass or Carbon fins for the consistency and predictability.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 ok! Thanks noel!
Has anyone else felt the Mashup is a little harder to put on rail due to its width even though its shorter? In some of the youtube videos it seems the board stays flatter during turns for most people especially frontside compared to say a CI Rocket Wide board. I'm 5'9 160 lbs and with the 5'4 Mashup with stock dimensions 27.1 L volume, AM twin fin+trailer setup and I feel like my turns are a bit flatter especially on more down the line waves but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I also have the 5'5 Rocket wide with stock dimensions 25.8 L volume and Roberts large raked tri-fins and feel I can put it on rail way easier. The major difference I feel between the two is on a smaller really clean day the Mashup seems to glide into a weaker wave way easier where as I may have missed that wave entirely with the rocket wide. I'm debating whether to keep the Rocket wide or the Mashup buy maybe I need more time on the Mashup (only three sessions on it) hmmm.
So for the thruster guys out there what fins would work best East Coast us BS waves
Large base to maximize drive or medium raked fins. My Raked fins or the Medium AM’s
Thanks 👍
Hi Salas.
For ride in 1-3ft waves do you recommend me the Sharpeye Cheat Code or the Mashup?
Thanks.
Regards
I like the Mashup better
@@surfnshowreviews7777 do you intend to make a Cheat code review???
@@pabloortega6984 I hope too soon
Hi I was wondering whether you like the JS Monsta or a Lost Sub driver better?
I like the RW Squash and Mini Ghost better.
Hey Noel, does the helium construction feel “floatier”, like did the 5’2 at 24.9L feel more like 26? Im wondering if the 5’6 at 30.1 will feel more like 31ish.
Yes… the 5’6” will feel more like 30.6L. Maybe 1/2 liter more… not a full liter though
Hi, thank you very much for your work. Did you ever tried the sub xero (by JS) ? i am between the mashup and the sub xero and cant decide what to buy... can you help me with that?
Sub Zero is fun… I like the Mash Up better
great review with good content would like to know your thoughts on sweet potato helium to replace a mal on small weak waves just to keep surfing when conditions are pretty average. im 5"10 and 78 kg looking at the 5"6 and 5"8 but not sure it does what they say it does. would be thankful for your insight.
Not sure about the SP. I’m sure it’s fast in small mushy waves and keep you surfing in weak waves. I like the Seaside better due to its performance compared to the SP style board.
Sick review Noel!!
Boby quad from CI needs a review from surf and show that's board looks insane for small waves like the mashup
I just ordered a couple
@@surfnshowreviews7777 can't wait for this one gonna to be amazing review with all your knowledge
@@surfnshowreviews7777 can’t wait !
Hey Noel, thanks for the solid review. I have one question. I’m currently have a Astro pop xl 6’6” at 46.5 liters. I’m 6’4” 205lbs and the board has really helped me learn how to link turns but now I want to step down. Would you suggest a 6’2” mashup at 41liters or a 6’4” mashup at 44liters? What would be a great step down from my Astro pop?
Thanks for your time!
I say 6’4”… just go down in volume a little at a time
@@surfnshowreviews7777 buying it now! Thanks man 🙌🏻
Looking forward to seeing how it stacks up against the Seaside and Dom 2. 🤙
Great review as alway! Thank you.
Any chance you’ll be doing a review on the Glazer please?
Stoked you liked this review. The folks at Firewire still have not sent me the Glazer to do the review. I have asked for it many times.
I’m 6’1 running a thruster set up on it. 35 L and I love it for my beach break and I even love it on the point break that gets head high and bigger.
Would love to see you do a review of the Twice Baked.
Great review as usual!
thought about getting this but wish it was in lft
You should review some Album surfboard models. The PLASMIC is an insanly fun groveler. The spray you can creat with that little board is off the chart. And the Twinsman you would love!! Com'on do itt!! ;)
Great work as usual thank Noel!
I tired to get the Twinsman and Matt Parker at Album said "he does not see the value in our reviews." Sorry I tried....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Insane. Your reviews have influenced nearly all of my surfboard purchases from FireWire, Lost, JS, Slater Designs, CI etc. That's revenue lost for them and valuable content lost for us consumers trying to find the right boards in this saturated surfboard market. @Album Surf send this man some boards to review!
Sad to hear... Probably I would not buy again a board that has not been reviewed by you even though it not suits your taste/style/waves. Thanks Noel!!
So you ONLY buy boards reviewed by Noel?!?
@@jennmoramarco9610 mostly yes... Or other reviewers here like Thomyesurfs, Craig, Skipper... These people provide great knowledge for surfers, specially in my case living inland without a local spot or shapers.
Hey Noel awesome work as always having watched this review: what are your top 3 hp shortboards for small waves ever? I wonder cheers from germany
RW Squash, NB2, Inferno 72, the Medina
Excellent review once again. Keep it going! Aloha.
awesome review thank you
Hi Noel ! Which of the small wave performance boards do you think is a better groveler ??? (Will handle mushier surf better )
What boards are you considering for this type of surf? For Small Wave performance boards I like the RW Squash, MG Squash, NB2, Dominator 2 suits my style of surfing as a Small Wave performance board too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 RW squash, NB2, and even the BV2… the thing is, I have a gremlin but sometimes I feel that is holding me back on performance on small waves .. I’m 5,9 .. my gremlin was 5,7 .. and i just sold it and went shorter at same gremlin but in 5,5 looking to get better performance .. but don’t know if I’ll be better with a SWPB to improve in small waves 1 to 3 ft .. For better surf I have a shadow .. I’m an intermediate looking to improve lol
@@ccozzarelli Try the shorter Gremlin… if that doesn’t go well then go RW Sqaush or MashUp
Can’t decide between the mashup and the seaside! Any thoughts?
Down the line speed, and carving go Seaside in 1-6’ surf.
Mashup offers more performance surfing in the pocket in 1-4’ surf.
I had decided to go mashup based on lack of spray on promo clips including Rob Ms. then my buddy sent me pics of spray flying all over the place on his seaside so now I’m confused.
Awesome review! Im 160 pounds and 5ft69". Which size would you recommend?
Im still Deciding between the Mashup and the Seaside
@surfnshowreviews7777 Looking for a everyday board for small to medium messy onshore mostly softer shorebreak. Mashup or CI PodMod? Are they at all similar?
Bobby Quad Pu/Poly
Hey Noel, could you review the new sweet potato? This groveler looks pretty sick !
Amazing stuff as always !! Thks for the community
Not my style Groveler
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Would you mind elaborating why? Was considering it so genuinely curious :) (as a Über grovler)
@@sachaDS0 These types of boards don’t do legit turns.
Hi noel, which size and volume do you recommend me?? I’m 5”7, 150 pounds …
Pro/Expert 24-26L
Advanced 26-28L
Intermediate 27-29L
Beginner/Intermediate 30-33L
Any problem fitting a deck pad on the step rail?
No problem for me on the 5’4” and no problem on the 5’2” either
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Cheers 👍🏼
I have only had this board for 2 surfs and may I say as a thruster it sucks! It's about as loose as a freight train. I will try it as a twin next but I think it needs some v in the tail.
How does this thing compare to a pod/pod mod?
PM offers a little more performance and it can handle a little more sizable surf.
Hi I would like a review between sharpeyes blow fish, RFN mashup would
Hi Noel
Love the channel thanks for your effort! Have you got a Machado Glazer review in the pipeline?
No sorry… the folks at FW will not be sending that board to me for review
@@surfnshowreviews7777 That’s a downer, would love to know your thoughts. Started watching you reviews few years back and I gotta say I followed a lot of your advice on fin choice and set up and it’s really changed my surfing. Difference between a great board or a good board and a dud sometimes is easy a a new set of fins. Thanks again.
Should do a OZ trip bro 😉
@@esdubya I hope to do OZ soon. Looking for the COVID BS to be over and free up traveling
Hey Noel,
I am looking for a board I can pretty much use in any waves 1-6' both softer and punchier waves. I was hoping you'd have any input on the Mashup, the CI BnW, and the Pyzalien 2 because I was trying to decide between these three! I currently love my Go Fish so I was wondering of these three boards which you'd recommend (of course these three are much more performance heavy than a fish).
P2
Perfectly described as usual noel .
I just bought another spitfire. Helium looks just like a spitfire with a swallowtail instead of a cough and tail
You should review the DHD dna
Noel, what's the fastest / loosest board you've ridden in head high and under? Talking speed and super twitchy
Would love to see you surf the JS Sub-xero. Hi performance groveller would suit your style of surfing
Me too… looks like a sick sled. The folks at JS aren’t sending sleds anymore
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Interesting - I guess that means they've assessed that the risk of a bad review is not worth the chance of a good review. That's a tricky situation when you rely on shapers sending their boards to you for free. Have you ever considered doing a deal with a couple of retail surf shops? Mention them in the review and they can resell the sled after the review?
Can you do h.evry day c.i?thanks
Yes, I will be doing that review soon....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 cant wait.thx
@@surfnshowreviews7777 i cant decide mg to buy or h.every day.your review will help i hope
Cheers
How does the Mashup compare to the slater design flat earth
Mashup is a Groveler… best in 1-3’ surf. The FE is a daily best in 3-6’ surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for reply, I have the F.E and it's a awesome board, am looking at purchasing the Mashup just didn't want to get it if it was too similar👍
Rocket wide seem good too but prefer the quad box of the Mashup if you wanted to ride it like that
Happy everyday or mini ghost?
Mini Ghost… I have not tried the Happy ED yet
Looks like the rocket wide
Of all the footage out there still not a fan of this model.
The release is subdued and the board looks too small for you.
Typical template overall.
Just my observation.
Looks like Dann Man is coping Tomo on the double barrel concave 🙄
Take a look at the Firewire Double Agent by Mann
@@bernatANDORRA Mann came into FireWire after Tomo. What's your point?
@@adamwaz5615 he played with deep double concaves before. Not sure who applied this design first though but I would not say he is coping anything with this model.
@@bernatANDORRA fair enough 🤙
@@bernatANDORRA the double agent just has a normal deep double concave. When we talk about double barrel we are talking two concaves in the one concave eg Tomo. Just saying.
Mashup vs Astro Pop
Astro POP
Loving my Astro Pop and need a freshy. Thanks brother
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel, great review, was looking forward to hearing what you had to say.
So you think the Mashup and Astro Pop are comparable boards? In other words, is the Mashup competing directly with the Astro Pop or are they boards for slightly different conditions?
I also noticed that you don't give Pyzel boards the best score in durability (2.5 stars for the Pyzalien, 3.5 for the Astro Pop). Given that, on the other hand, Firewire boards are probably among the best built, most durable boards, what construction would you recommend in Pyzel that at least comes close to that of FW (possibly excluding black arts technology as it's probably 500$ more expensive on average that a FW helium construction)?
Cheers!
@@dlangpap Mashup might offer a bit more performance top to bottom compared to the AP. The AP is more of a Groveler Performance Fish like the Seaside. The AP out performs the Seaside in the pocket as a performance fish.
Pretty much all PU/Poly, PU/Epoxy Resin, EPS/Epoxy constructions are similar in durability to me. PU/Poly with team light glassing is NOT durable at all…. It’s pretty bad actually. JS uses Burford blanks out of Aus for their PU/Poly boards are next level durable compared to anything here in the US.
Firewire is the most durable for pressure dents, then Datk Arts and Varial Foam with Epoxy Resin. Varial Foam with Epoxy resin doesn’t load or flex very well from what I remember but no pressure dents in 4 sessions. Varial foam started doing infused glassing so they might be better now. XTR is also next level Construction that offers better durability compared to PU and most other EPS/Epoxy builds.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel for the detailed answer. Now I’m a bit torn because the Mashup does seem to be the better choice for me, both for conditions and construction. However, you don’t seem that enthused about it (also in comparison to the AP which was among your favorites if I remember correctly), so the choice is not that clear. Wish Pyzel had better constructions that are not as expensive as Dark Arts or that FW would re-take making Pyzel shapes…
🤙🤙🤙🤙
Board looks like it’s moving really slow
Mashup vs BOBBY QUAD....
Not sure…. I haven’t ridden the BQ
Anyone try this board with the Machado quads?
I have a set of quad keel fins in honeycomb more or less identical to the Machados in template. These really lit the board up for me - same for the Dom2. Recommend trying your Machados if you like something drivey 👍🏼
So basically it sucks!! Go get a seaside ..
Mashup surfs top to bottom way better compared to the Seaside.
Thanks Noel .. you got the best reviews . Super technical and thorough!!! 🤙