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  • @aldomartinez9154
    @aldomartinez9154 2 роки тому +456

    A character in this series that I am most worried about is Stefan, given that he was getting his taste of running in the roads by attempting to help his female friend in selling the gun she found. Although it is unlikely, he would last long enough in the roads since the deal went wrong almost costing his life if it weren't for his older brother Jamie stepping in. However, witnessing the death of Jamie and losing his best friend to roads is enough to drive someone mad. Both Jamie and Ats became a product of their environment costing them their peace, freedom, and lives and I fear that Stefan will also be headed into the same direction. Who knows what the final upcoming season will bring but one thing I believe we can all agree on is that nobody is safe.

    • @trepeezy362
      @trepeezy362 2 роки тому +23

      Stef gone drop sumn fasho next season 😭

    • @D-A-A-
      @D-A-A- 2 роки тому

      What you talking about that scene was put in there purposely for the fact that it shows us rhe viewer rhat Stefan already knows how to cock a gun and all that, looks like he did it with ease when he pulled it on the man in the flat, straight out his pocket and pulled the hammer back no trouble, 100% wasn't the first time he tried it out. It clearly shows or tells us Stefan is going down that road, especially after seeing his brother die the way he did

    • @federicolacognata7038
      @federicolacognata7038 2 роки тому +4

      That’s exactly what I think it’s gonna happen in next season. They opened his arch in the best way possible.

    • @rishadhossain3581
      @rishadhossain3581 2 роки тому +1

      So why didnt ranell avenge leon

    • @D-A-A-
      @D-A-A- 2 роки тому +3

      @@rishadhossain3581 he tried to ? He tried to kill dushane while he was having a smoke then ranells mum comes an stops them

  • @chocolatemami3956
    @chocolatemami3956 2 роки тому +605

    People need to realize Jamie didn’t kill Kit to gain Dashane’s loyalty …. He killed Kit because of his brothers 💯

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf 2 роки тому +55

      He also killed him cause kits honestly a liability

    • @ghostfacescrillaNG
      @ghostfacescrillaNG 2 роки тому +20

      Oh that’s ok then. He killed his best friend because he didn’t want to move his brothers! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @istoleyourcinnamonroll7194
      @istoleyourcinnamonroll7194 2 роки тому +29

      @@ghostfacescrillaNG cause he knew that if he forced his brothers to move with him that their relationship would only become even worse

    • @HonestMan112
      @HonestMan112 2 роки тому +37

      @@o-wolf Jamie's a liability to his brothers. Any gangbanger is a liability to their family

    • @Wonderkid44
      @Wonderkid44 2 роки тому +21

      Tbh thats why Sully duppied him, he knew that a friend killer could never be loyal

  • @daniijwright
    @daniijwright 2 роки тому +482

    The guilt the brothers will feel because they didn't want to move and that ultimately caused Jamie's death

    • @jonjones745
      @jonjones745 2 роки тому +74

      damn thats so right ,another way kitzz still would be alive.what a plotwist

    • @Peedocatcher1
      @Peedocatcher1 2 роки тому +18

      Kits and Jamie’s

    • @yungkingshaka1227
      @yungkingshaka1227 2 роки тому

      FUK THEM BROTHERS😂

    • @YakiOnigiriZoro
      @YakiOnigiriZoro 2 роки тому +34

      Why should they feel guilt? They never wanted to deal with Jamie's lifestyle, he forced them into it because of his own circumstances.

    • @ccfcbluebirds2312
      @ccfcbluebirds2312 2 роки тому +105

      @@YakiOnigiriZoro grief works in mysterious ways bro. People find ways to blame themselves

  • @justanotheruser43
    @justanotheruser43 2 роки тому +51

    Sully and Jamie are such well written and played characters. Huge respect to the actors

  • @minismalls3096
    @minismalls3096 2 роки тому +284

    the last scene was wild, cause remember sully didn't want to kill dris where his daughter could find him. and was also upset with shane for involving the police to arrest those kids. then at the end he killed jamie... in front of his little brothers. shit just goes full circle

    • @dylankayijuka3817
      @dylankayijuka3817 2 роки тому +44

      Yeah I really didn't understand why tf Sully did that! It was such against his principles

    • @3.2mviews10
      @3.2mviews10 2 роки тому

      Looked in his eyes and everything then shot him to the head. Thats deep bro

    • @kalilabraahim6729
      @kalilabraahim6729 2 роки тому +17

      Exactly, specifically when he found out that Jamie didn't order the hit on him at the cremation. Lauryn pillow talked with Leyton.

    • @lavendertiyesabrown7206
      @lavendertiyesabrown7206 2 роки тому +4

      @@dylankayijuka3817 Yeah I hope that last scene is a just a weird dream..please...

    • @temif6469
      @temif6469 2 роки тому +16

      @@lavendertiyesabrown7206 lol ! It’s not . This ain’t Disney 😂😂😂😂

  • @yungdon1934
    @yungdon1934 2 роки тому +137

    Jaimie’s death felt so realistic, it was crushing 😭

    • @chezzag7427
      @chezzag7427 2 роки тому +38

      i actually felt so weird for like 2 days straight after watching that ending. still not over it lol

    • @yungdon1934
      @yungdon1934 2 роки тому +14

      @@chezzag7427 same, when he said no right before he got shot, and his brothers reaction bothered me to the max

    • @LL-ip5mm
      @LL-ip5mm 2 роки тому +2

      There all such good actors

    • @Ant25396
      @Ant25396 2 роки тому +2

      @@chezzag7427 glad I ain’t the only 1

    • @jnyerere
      @jnyerere 2 роки тому +11

      Nah it definitely traumatized me a little. I didn't know how much I was invested in Jamie until he was killed.

  • @notmeee496
    @notmeee496 2 роки тому +101

    People forget Sully is a literal psycho, proved by his guilt for leaving Dris’s daughter fatherless but proceeded to kill Jamie infront of Stefan, it’s not bad writing it’s showing how far gone Sully is that he’s losing his morals

  • @keishawnmccartney2704
    @keishawnmccartney2704 2 роки тому +241

    As much as we all love Jamie, I think we can all agree now that its not a dream

    • @Lourax44
      @Lourax44 2 роки тому

      Jamie is a rat anybody who respects him is a rat

    • @Laura-sg6ss
      @Laura-sg6ss 2 роки тому +10

      loooolll don't rip the bandaid off, let's all pretend for a bit

    • @Laura-sg6ss
      @Laura-sg6ss 2 роки тому

      @@ghostfacescrillaNG well it was either he died or he died so welp🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @Laura-sg6ss
      @Laura-sg6ss 2 роки тому +1

      @@ghostfacescrillaNG so what was the alternative? Not kill him and get killed?? Are you struggling to read and comprehend?💀💀 ain't about sides, it's about reality. It was die or die, bro. What are you on about?

    • @Laura-sg6ss
      @Laura-sg6ss 2 роки тому

      @@ghostfacescrillaNG you think they weren't coming back?? Coz their plan was to come back 💀 where were you WHEN THEY WERE CHATTING ABOUT THIS?? lowe it man ugh. And no one was talking about what you would do💀 it's about what he did regardless. He wasn't ready to leave his brothers after they lost their parents, he was the only one left to take care of them. You're moving as though you're the only who gets affected when you make decisions. And yes it then affected Sully but my point is it would impact people REGARDLESS and then dictate their actions. Again lowe it.

  • @WilliamsPinch
    @WilliamsPinch 2 роки тому +922

    The REAL villains of the show: *Pebbles* & *Curtis’s sister* .

    • @MysticRose559
      @MysticRose559 2 роки тому +153

      pebbles wasn’t intentionally tryna be a villain she was jus dumb tho

    • @bobbydazzler7201
      @bobbydazzler7201 2 роки тому +147

      @@MysticRose559 aside from reconnecting sully with his daughter, the woman has only caused problems for everyone she’s interacted with in the show by being way out of her depth

    • @chico9805
      @chico9805 2 роки тому +27

      Curtis's sister is leng tho.

    • @yennox5338
      @yennox5338 2 роки тому +14

      @@chico9805 You say that like it changes anything lol, she's prolly the best looking in the series witj Tilly tbf

    • @JMS849
      @JMS849 2 роки тому +75

      Curtis is the biggest weirdo in the show. When Dushane said to his face "I just think your kinda weird bruv" at the table is a good scene.

  • @trepeezy362
    @trepeezy362 2 роки тому +64

    Never thought about what Sully’s final decision representing him losing the battle with himself. Half the time idk who to side with which shows how good the writers are. Now I’m ready to see Stef’s dark side 🔥🔥

    • @cdog857
      @cdog857 Рік тому +2

      Great point. I end up siding with none of the main characters, they all deserve to go IMO. The heroes are the people like Ats' Mum, just trying to get by and live a good life with a load of roaming maniacs as neighbours.

  • @truevirtue8082
    @truevirtue8082 2 роки тому +84

    The more I think about it, the more I understand why Sully said “Just because we didn’t lose, doesn’t mean we won.” That move Dushane pulled was basically him calling the cops on his competition. It was BS. And he got a 14 yr old killed because of it, which is a recurring theme with the Summerhouse crew, getting youngin’s caught up and killed in the game. That’s why I think Jaq took Ats death so hard as well, she knew the part she played in him dying.

    • @geraldking9385
      @geraldking9385 2 роки тому +1

      ATS is responsible for his own death like kit was talking about. He talked way too much and certain people didnt like that

    • @minismalls3096
      @minismalls3096 2 роки тому +6

      Ats was moving mad after jamie got locked up, at least thats what kit said

    • @BeanieBanta
      @BeanieBanta 2 роки тому +3

      Nah man, Ats can go and deal with himself lol. Man was trying to get bread to help his mother then suddenly acts tough and starts yelling at her? Like bro did u forget why u started this in the first place? Then he snaked his own bestfriend? Got into a fight with Stefan? Started cussing him out? bruh nah. I liked him at first then just hated his guts after.

    • @naturalbby1722
      @naturalbby1722 2 роки тому +9

      That part “summerhouse always get youngins caught up and killed” so true because look at what happened to Michael! He got caught up with the cops told them the truth but still tried to stay loyal to dushane and summerhouse the we see his fate

    • @vmrre8267
      @vmrre8267 Рік тому +4

      @@BeanieBanta Bro he was a Kid😂 Kids acting weird sometimes

  • @callumbuchan8629
    @callumbuchan8629 2 роки тому +120

    These are fantastic videos! They bring the series to life even further.

    • @yonathanis
      @yonathanis 2 роки тому +1

      You know what else brings the series to life watching it while I fucked your mom + ratio + who asked + L

  • @avenoirrr
    @avenoirrr 2 роки тому +21

    I had a feeling someone was going to die immediately when they were showing the happy montage at the end and the only person they didn’t show was Sully. It basically confirmed when Stef went to answer the door but Jamie insisted. It reminded me of a scene from the original Dragon Ball where Goku leaves something behind at the end of the tournament and tries to go get it but Krillin insist on getting it instead and is ultimately killed by King Piccolo

  • @DNTGWANLIKEURSICK
    @DNTGWANLIKEURSICK 2 роки тому +31

    I literally felt like I lost someone I knew when Jamie died that was a sad one still

  • @GyallisSzn
    @GyallisSzn 2 роки тому +99

    Killing off Jamie was a bad move. He brought the young fresh vibe to the show and it was leading to a eventually showdown between him and dushane or sully. He reminded me of Marlo in the wire. Marlo was a young charismatic and smart and we rooted for him cause we could relate, much like Jamie. Instead they wrote Jamie into an overzealous ungrateful eediott which only justified his killing.

    • @MrDdub619
      @MrDdub619 2 роки тому +17

      No one liked Marlo. Jamie became a likable character. Everyone wanted Marlo dead.

    • @ioannicolau1560
      @ioannicolau1560 2 роки тому +2

      Who exactly is we? 😅 I’d be proper scared of a group who rooted for Marlo

    • @Dookman030
      @Dookman030 2 роки тому +9

      Absolutely no one rooted for marlo lol

    • @Originalknyte
      @Originalknyte 2 роки тому +1

      Sully is Stringer Bell

    • @stephenwangondu3618
      @stephenwangondu3618 Рік тому

      Also the actor for Jamie, didn't want to do another show.
      So they had to kill off Jamie.

  • @TheAlkebulanTrust
    @TheAlkebulanTrust 2 роки тому +84

    That's the thing about life in Western Society some people have good morals but they use their current environment to get what is needed. Jamie is one of those characters where he has no other choice but to take care of his brothers. In the most effective way possible. But then there is trying to be the Top Boy which can seem selfish. Especially if they are doing well not as the Top Boy.

    • @kylefidler4340
      @kylefidler4340 2 роки тому +8

      He could just get a job at a tesco warehouse like a normal person 😄

    • @ifyouknowyouknow6604
      @ifyouknowyouknow6604 2 роки тому +7

      @@kylefidler4340 don't think that would be enough to provide for 2 younger brothers while paying rent.

    • @kylefidler4340
      @kylefidler4340 2 роки тому +5

      Didn't one of the brothers have a job? Can't he contribute? Plus council flats do help with housing benefit and probably as he's a guardian for a child he'd probably get support for that either so that's aload of shite tbh now he ain't supporting shit cause he dead 😄

    • @ifyouknowyouknow6604
      @ifyouknowyouknow6604 2 роки тому +6

      @@kylefidler4340 brother was as a delivery driver part time and in all likelihood Jamie was paying for his brothers uni. So no. Also child benefits aren't alot especially these days.

    • @kylefidler4340
      @kylefidler4340 2 роки тому +3

      @@ifyouknowyouknow6604 why would he pay for his uni if he can get a student loan?

  • @cozyfades1587
    @cozyfades1587 2 роки тому +79

    Dushane is the real monster of the three protagonists

    • @christopherayettey4390
      @christopherayettey4390 2 роки тому +2

      Why u say that

    • @JJJackson777
      @JJJackson777 2 роки тому +19

      he's worst in summerhouse seasons imo, kidnapping n cooperating w feds

    • @cozyfades1587
      @cozyfades1587 2 роки тому

      @@christopherayettey4390 he kidnapped a kid, he's turned children into drug dealers, he's gotten the feds involved to deal with his enemies, and he's shown to kinda treat his guys like they're all expendable. When Sully got shot at he wasn't ready to slide but had it been the other way around...well we know. And he was gonna turn his back on Summerhouse and have it gentrified but then his mom died and Shelly made him see reason. None of them are saints but Sully and Jamie definitely had a...better moral compass I guess?

    • @BeyondTheInternet
      @BeyondTheInternet 2 роки тому +2

      *Wait Who's The Third Protagonists?*

    • @BeyondTheInternet
      @BeyondTheInternet 2 роки тому +15

      @@christopherayettey4390 *Dushane Is By Far The Most Evil, I Can't Say Sully Since He Always Hurt Those That Hurt Him And His People.*
      *But Dushane Is The Type Of Person To Use And Do Anything He Can To Get Rid Of You, And All He Cares About Is His Money, He's Very Dangerous.*

  • @matthew3078
    @matthew3078 2 роки тому +64

    I really wish they'd take more time to look at the lives of the vulnerable children that get groomed by these gangs and used as dealers and traffickers (e.g., on county lines). It's possible to have a bit of sympathy for Jamie given his family situation, but how can you think that Dushane, a man pushing 40 with an amazing flat and plenty of cash, is 'blurring the line between right and wrong' by being head of a gang that uses children to sell drugs? I also have no sympathy for Shelly, given she must know this but is still with him and brings her daughter to his house.

    • @minismalls3096
      @minismalls3096 2 роки тому +8

      those kids also need money, you see how ats was struggling with money cause his mom was facing deportation and went straight to a hot boy asking for work when he was like 11 years old. its a crazy cycle.

    • @matthew3078
      @matthew3078 2 роки тому +8

      @@minismalls3096 yeah that's basically exactly what I mean, the ats storyline in series 1 was great. Also the original storyline with Ra'nell, that whole dynamic between him and Dushane was exactly what the show should be about

    • @Wonderkid44
      @Wonderkid44 2 роки тому +1

      Bro in that life thats how they show love unfortunately

    • @heisenberg6142
      @heisenberg6142 Рік тому

      They’ve done it multiple times with gem, Michael and Ats what more u want

  • @gailainsley6939
    @gailainsley6939 Рік тому +2

    Top boy is such a good show and has been living rent free in my mind ever since 😂 especially Jamie.😫

  • @TheHui
    @TheHui 2 роки тому +24

    This season for me just wasn’t as good.
    1) Season 1 ending with the undercover cops leading an investigation to take Dushane down was a great twist to end the show but in this season they were pretty useless and they gave their identities away whilst Dushane was in court and that was it. Nothing at all really considering how much of a vital role they could’ve played especially the fact they were undercover the whole of last season.
    2) Sully seemed like he was done from life and I remember seeing a lot of rumours that he may have left Dris to flee rather than killing him especially given the fact that they both know how it’s like to have a daughter so maybe that could’ve been a reason. Also the fact that it showed Sully struggling to pull the trigger. But as season 2 went on it gave the impression he did kill Dris and this was affecting him being with Dushane etc especially because he was the one that gave Sully the order. But we find out in a later episode in season 2 that Dris was shot 20 times. That must mean that Sully is actually crazy crazy in the head and no other explanation. So him being all depressed and hiding out just seemed stupid.
    3) shelly Being harassed by a women that nobody even knows was just annoying. Yes the directors are tryna give a bit of backbone to her character and show even the so called “good” people have a dark past. Imo it was just a bit pointless and lead to crappy dead end.
    4) Lizzie who played a big part in season 1 was understandable because she was the main supplier but in this season we didn’t even need her. She was just a link maybe to the whole “Moroccan Spain” thing that wasn’t even major come to think of it now. She was just already telling Jamie to snake Dushane when he gets there. Just a stupid move.
    5)BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT: Killing off Jamie of course. His whole character was just poorly written. Was a proper small fish in this season which is understandable coz he works for Dushane now and was kind of under his thumb. But him trying to snake Dushane in the same season that Dushane helped him avoid prison was just crappy writing. I get it that the whole show might be about “Sully and Dushane” but come on. His whole persona was ruthless in a smart way in season 1 and always being a step ahead in the game which made him on Top from Season 1 straight away. But even we know that this was a schoolboy error and just stupid. The only thing that makes sense how the writers portrayed him in this season was to not give him that vital type of role and focal point because they were gonna kill him off anyways and plus maybe the actor in real life Michael Ward who plays Jamie is moving on to other things. That’s the most logical explanation because why would you get rid of a cast member who was bringing a lot more light to Top Boy for the good.

    • @Zorro35
      @Zorro35 2 роки тому +4

      Couldn’t of put it better myself. I agree with all your points!

    • @AAWWWWWW
      @AAWWWWWW 2 роки тому

      100% with Shelleys annoying mate, Lizzie and the under covers. Should never had any air time any of them.
      I think we have to remember this isn’t Hollywood and stays true to real life and Jamie’s killing was a portrayal of that. A little illogical, human, no Forgiving.
      I even go as far to say the whole Curtis storyline was pointless too.
      Jamie going wasnt a bad choice. I think they could have impacted it better in season 5. But as I said no fairytale needed.
      Ideally they would have dropped stories and focused more on Spain / Morocco / Jamie’s character.
      At end of day it’s one season out of 4 soon to be 5 really, so sometimes used for character building.
      I thinn sully killing Jamie may nit been the best for the Audience, but is pretty realistic why sully did it, real life raw > Hollywood

    • @Hov-r5e
      @Hov-r5e 2 роки тому +1

      You’re definitely right man.Same thing I said to when they killed Jamie.Why would u kill Jamie knowing he’s the one that’s really making the show what it is.I just don’t see next season being that good of a season.Unless if jaime’s death was just a dream and they continue from their.

    • @johndoe-mf4qj
      @johndoe-mf4qj 2 роки тому

      real ones know that as season 3

  • @johnnguru9162
    @johnnguru9162 2 роки тому +8

    Talk of unpredictability, Like Game of thrones, This series was one of the best story lines I have ever followed and watched. I would rate this artwork an 8.5 or even a 9.

  • @emekaosuagwu6416
    @emekaosuagwu6416 2 роки тому +16

    This narration is beautifully written
    Woooow👏👏👏👏

  • @christieomojo
    @christieomojo 2 роки тому +57

    how can you make good choices when you've got no choices

    • @skimpanana9499
      @skimpanana9499 2 роки тому +2

      bars !!

    • @JohnDoe-lj3ph
      @JohnDoe-lj3ph 2 роки тому +4

      I'm stealing this.

    • @yhwhal
      @yhwhal 2 роки тому +15

      Sounds very cool and philosophical, too bad that ain't the truth. We do have choices. But it takes some guts to do the right thing. I rather eat plain rice and go to bed peacefully than eat meat after I killed somebody. Having cold blood ain't cool, it's not to be praised and clearly not an excuse for anything in this world. Morals are NOT open to debate. Also strictly talking about the UK, the UK government is probably the best out there to help the people with no income or low income. No wonder why I pay SO much tax lol. So don't tell me there were no ways.

    • @quietcell
      @quietcell Рік тому +1

      @@yhwhal this isn't true. A lots changed and welfare benefits have been slashed even for the most vulnerable. A lot of European countries have more caring social systems than Britain. A lot of people are really struggling and it just takes one bad situation for you to be pushed into choices you wouldn't make if you weren't struggling so badly.

  • @Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop
    @Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop 2 роки тому +7

    My man you have one hell of a voice 👍

  • @jnyerere
    @jnyerere 2 роки тому +12

    That last episode was Stefan's villain origin story. There was a lot of foreshadowing of Stefan heading towards a path similar to that of his brother. But now we know he's definitely about to turn for the worst.

  • @mightbeleo
    @mightbeleo 2 роки тому +6

    Stef is gonna become a mad man. Best friend and older brother killed? Yea he’s gonna be a monster

  • @moneytttt1140
    @moneytttt1140 2 роки тому +56

    Jamie was killed because he was a rat.
    1. Sully and Dushane see things differently. Dushane thinks by killing Kit that Jamie is Loyal. Sully see’s it that if you can kill your best friend, a someone you have been with since day 1 then your not loyal. Sully actually says this to Dushane when Dushane say’s he’s loyal he killed Kit….. Sully says yeah he did that for you!.
    2.Jamie tried to screw them over Morocco. Sully knows that Jamie can’t be trusted.
    3. As much as Jamie did what he did for his brothers, Sully doesn’t know that!. We as the audience see a softer side to Jamie. We know the backstory of his parents and how he’s trying to raise his brothers the best he can. But the streets don’t know that. Sully doesn’t know that.
    4. Sully doesn’t want to be Top Boy so it’s not over jealousy. In many ways Sully is already Top Boy. The youngens all look upto him, and he answers to absolutely no-one. Dushane might very well be Top Boy in terms of business, But Sully is Top Boy on the streets
    5. The whole Dris thing is different. He betrayed Sully. Kit didn’t do anything to Jamie. He actually looked after his Brothers when he was away and was always their for him

    • @therealmeekun
      @therealmeekun 2 роки тому +4

      Jamie owes Sully no loyalty plus you act like Dushane and Sully didn't snake Jamie to get to the top. He was supposed to kill them for that you know

    • @AngelDavz07
      @AngelDavz07 2 роки тому +1

      @@therealmeekun true but the main characters are dushane and sully anybody other than them can be considered an opp

    • @khairmoore
      @khairmoore 2 роки тому +1

      good breakdown

    • @bryantperez4786
      @bryantperez4786 2 роки тому

      That's mad

  • @IdocarebutIdont
    @IdocarebutIdont 2 роки тому +61

    So basically.. Pebbles is the reason why Jamie died and why Sully lost like 4 seasons of growth and character development.
    I really don’t know how to feel about that..

    • @truevirtue8082
      @truevirtue8082 2 роки тому +10

      Such a reckless character. I was hoping they took her out.

    • @arancienne
      @arancienne 2 роки тому +3

      How is pebbles the reason jamie died lol wtf

    • @tiroramfolo1700
      @tiroramfolo1700 2 роки тому +33

      @@arancienne Sully almost died trying to get Pebbles out of the situation with Cyprus and Kadeem, while he was moving away from the roads. Dushane had to step in and save him, and then Sully owed Dushane. That’s why he went to Spain to deal with the Juan El Bueno situation and found out Jamie was snaking them, which led to Sully deciding to Kill Jamie. Had it not been for Pebbles Sully would’ve never got back into the life and Jamie would’ve still Been alive, it’s all one big domino effect

    • @arancienne
      @arancienne 2 роки тому

      @@tiroramfolo1700 Oooh I see now thanks for explaining

    • @tiroramfolo1700
      @tiroramfolo1700 2 роки тому +3

      @UCjV3WFcB_eks_HpIHHMuZuQ but the thing is Dushane and Sully were not on talking terms before Dushane rescued him, that acted as a bridge between the two, and that would have NEVER happened had it not been for Pebbles putting Sully in that position through her stupidness, and at that point Sully wouldn’t have felt the need to go to Spain even if he didn’t like the way Jamie dealt with it because he would’ve been helping Dushane first of all, who he wouldn’t have been on talking terms with at that point, and would’ve been back in the life he was running away from secondly. And yes Jamie died cause he snaked but had Sully not gone to Spain he would’ve not found out and Jamie would still be alive. It ALL leads back to Pebbles you see?

  • @namata305
    @namata305 2 роки тому +7

    Dushane became this cold, tough and stonehearted in the second season. He switched up real fast

  • @HaAuntidofficial
    @HaAuntidofficial 2 роки тому +14

    Our action never exists in isolation we are all products mold by our Environment

  • @aGwEENapple
    @aGwEENapple Рік тому +2

    Jamie was just a young man taking care of his brothers the best way that he knew how. Unfortunately, we have to face some of our wrong decisions in the worst ways. Very sad to see him killed that way and choking for breaths.

  • @aGwEENapple
    @aGwEENapple Рік тому

    This breakdown is great because it mentions that a lot of what they did was wrong but it shows their reasons why they were in that life. And these are just people just trying to survive!

  • @marvinsepulveda1802
    @marvinsepulveda1802 2 роки тому +31

    If u noticed a Women had to do w every situation.. I forget the names; but pebbles for sully, the white woman got Jamie done; the lil girl got Jamie killed, bc he thought he was her at the door, the white lady making this girl dig up a body n sht. Dushanne n his moms, he got out the deal n now is forced to stay in longer which by all means will lead to downfall. Sht even the Spanish dude w his dying wife which made everything shaky to begin with.
    This show has a lot of layers once u start thinking n it’s why I like it!

    • @ad5048
      @ad5048 2 роки тому +5

      what does this mean ?

    • @Fsoricko
      @Fsoricko 2 роки тому +6

      Be quiet

    • @marvinsepulveda1802
      @marvinsepulveda1802 2 роки тому +14

      @@ad5048 women r deadly lol.. na..
      Remember in the beginning, when the dude says “women r stronger”? It goes straight from there; the women carry this season.. every major decision is made bc of a woman in some way

    • @WilliamsPinch
      @WilliamsPinch 2 роки тому +2

      You missed an opportunity to blame Curtis’ sister lol

    • @marvinsepulveda1802
      @marvinsepulveda1802 2 роки тому

      @@Fsoricko Smd

  • @ominxusbeats7490
    @ominxusbeats7490 2 роки тому +1

    It's crazy I remember listening to kano on my Nokia way back, he's actually such a talented actor fr fr

  • @joantonio6331
    @joantonio6331 2 роки тому +9

    Top boys is the UK version of "The wire" but in a more focused way.

    • @23bramble
      @23bramble 2 роки тому +1

      I thought the very same

    • @dannyb6861
      @dannyb6861 2 роки тому

      Not seen the wire is it decent?

    • @Derp_Skilz
      @Derp_Skilz 2 роки тому +1

      @@dannyb6861 not decent, the wire is like a documentary on crime in an american city. One of the best shows out there. Not decent but pretty fucking good;)

    • @dannyb6861
      @dannyb6861 2 роки тому

      @@Derp_Skilz ha ha ill check it out then cheers

    • @mogreen1232
      @mogreen1232 2 роки тому

      @@dannyb6861 it’s slower but more deeper and iconic. The wire and sopranos are considered the 2 greatest shows of all time

  • @ellogeeza8086
    @ellogeeza8086 2 роки тому +19

    So technically its pebbles fault that Jamie died Cus she got sully back on badness

    • @Lourax44
      @Lourax44 2 роки тому

      Nah he’s a rat he was always going to go eventually

  • @dc477
    @dc477 2 роки тому +4

    Really well constructed review, an eye opener too.

  • @fideletamo4292
    @fideletamo4292 2 роки тому +63

    I like the moral evolution of Sully the most, dushane is too cold he almost sent a innocent kid to jail, he tried to justify selling drugs in front of his mother..Jamie had Principles but was too ambitious and involved in this street life..all of them are Bad people but to me, Sully is the most decent of these street Monsters..

    • @joonyjun7861
      @joonyjun7861 2 роки тому +2

      what about what he did at the very end?

    • @fresitahailey
      @fresitahailey 2 роки тому +29

      Sully is still a street monster to me but everyone different in their own way, got a different drive/traumas. Sully prolly got the most bodies tbh he a cold blooded bc he’s numb from everything :( shit can kill ur spirit.

    • @narfazlee5162
      @narfazlee5162 2 роки тому +2

      Jamie is definitely not an innocent kid lol

    • @BeyondTheInternet
      @BeyondTheInternet 2 роки тому +2

      @@joonyjun7861 *He Killed Ah Monster At The Very End, What's Wrong With What Sully Did?*

    • @BeyondTheInternet
      @BeyondTheInternet 2 роки тому +2

      @@narfazlee5162 *Right, I Don't Know What's Wrong With These Jamie Fan Boys.*

  • @oliverolayinka8879
    @oliverolayinka8879 2 роки тому +17

    Jaqs gonna be the top boy by the end of next season.

  • @ibstudiosHD
    @ibstudiosHD 2 роки тому +9

    My prediction is Stefan is going to kill sully. He looked into sully eyes right before he killed Jamie. Trust me, that's what is going to end up with sully. I don't end see a happy ending for Dushane

  • @Itsmykool
    @Itsmykool 2 роки тому +9

    Jamie snacked his brother for his brothers.

  • @ROCABLOC
    @ROCABLOC 2 роки тому

    I can’t get enough of TOP BOY bruv

  • @dazmills6759
    @dazmills6759 2 роки тому +16

    The woman living next door to sully on the boat is undercover, that's the plot twist for next series

    • @tremell7559
      @tremell7559 2 роки тому +6

      If she is it would be an extremely huge coincidence. That the person he rented that particular spot from. Just so happens to be undercover. And that very same undercover sleeps with him. All this to get not a single whiff of evidence or criminal activity witnessed on his part! See where I'm going...

    • @dannyb6861
      @dannyb6861 2 роки тому +1

      Plus they did the undercover thing in last series so can't really do it again so soon

    • @JYMAHJAMES
      @JYMAHJAMES 2 роки тому +2

      nah that’s dead

    • @dazmills6759
      @dazmills6759 2 роки тому

      @@tremell7559 you mad, not a single whiff of criminal activity, man literally kidnapped him. She's a fed, sully will get offered immunity to take dushane down, the dilemma is the ending fam. Mark my words.

    • @dannyb6861
      @dannyb6861 2 роки тому

      @@dazmills6759 immunity from what? Getting kidnapped 🤷‍♂️🤣

  • @BenBennnis
    @BenBennnis 2 роки тому +6

    Dris got done as he grassed on sully and Dushane nothing else

  • @TommasoFirmini
    @TommasoFirmini Рік тому

    The more i watch this show the more i love sully and his development/arc. Seeing him go from leaving prison to be back under dushane, to losing jason and himself. Finally he steps up to his position, goes to spain to embarrass jaime and ultimately takes him off the board

  • @farzaslasher422
    @farzaslasher422 Рік тому

    I can’t until they do a video on season 3 of top boy 🙌🏽

  • @kamoheloiannk617
    @kamoheloiannk617 Рік тому

    After watching the last season... Stef really has good morals

  • @tshiamolehomo5627
    @tshiamolehomo5627 2 роки тому +7

    This is a great video

  • @jlorreno
    @jlorreno 2 роки тому +1

    This video just made me realize the music on top boy during some of these scenes could’ve been better. It would’ve connected with me more if the music was more strategically selected

  • @pamelaandreoli3107
    @pamelaandreoli3107 2 роки тому +16

    I'm looking forward to the moment when stef will avenge jamie's death by killing sully hahaha!

  • @davidclottey3935
    @davidclottey3935 2 роки тому +29

    I like Sully so much till he killed Jamie.
    I really wanted Jamie and Jaq to rule. One working for Dushane and the other for Sully.

    • @BeyondTheInternet
      @BeyondTheInternet 2 роки тому +4

      *Nah...*

    • @jasonbando7228
      @jasonbando7228 2 роки тому +6

      Be realistic when do u see a cry bby like jaq running a drug game 😅😂

    • @BeyondTheInternet
      @BeyondTheInternet 2 роки тому +4

      @@jasonbando7228 *Aye Don't Talk About Jaq Like That, She's Emotional Still...*

    • @davidclottey3935
      @davidclottey3935 2 роки тому +1

      @@jasonbando7228 Queen of the South.
      She got stronger

    • @jasonbando7228
      @jasonbando7228 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidclottey3935 I’m talking reality mate in UK she would be a groupie for the mandem not a top ‘girl’ or whatever they trying to make her become it’s cringe

  • @Newtwo_
    @Newtwo_ 2 роки тому

    The most underrated serial.

  • @MTCMCMXCI
    @MTCMCMXCI 2 роки тому +1

    Kit literally young chop 😂

  • @michaelhunter4891
    @michaelhunter4891 2 роки тому

    We need more content like this

  • @MK-gv7eq
    @MK-gv7eq 2 роки тому +5

    Do you think Ranell (from S1) will ever come back ?

    • @MK-gv7eq
      @MK-gv7eq 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine at the end of the next season Ranell teams up with stef to take down Dushane and Sully - Ranell hates Dushane and Sully will get revenge from Sully!!!

  • @seamieshame
    @seamieshame 2 роки тому +1

    Barge is on regents canal, not the Thames

  • @lindii5018
    @lindii5018 2 роки тому +6

    Best channel

  • @akremsuadik5334
    @akremsuadik5334 2 роки тому +1

    Incredible breakdown!

  • @arancienne
    @arancienne 2 роки тому +4

    Bring Ra'Nell back in season 5!

  • @stefanmusaki8881
    @stefanmusaki8881 2 роки тому

    Excellent commentary !

  • @ladysunshine171
    @ladysunshine171 2 роки тому +9

    Imo Top Boy kinda lost half of their fans because of Jamie death I remember always skipping on watching Summerhouse back then but when Jamie character appeared it caught my eye because of his youth I can relate to his character in so many ways man 💔💯

    • @luscious718
      @luscious718 2 роки тому +1

      AGREE, I watched Summerhouse after and though it was WACK. If I had watched that 1st, I would have never watched Top Boy LOL.

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing 2 роки тому +10

    Great review. Thanks for posting. Is Jamie dead though?? Maybe we just think so? I hope not we need him in the next series.

    • @exstatictermz2025
      @exstatictermz2025 2 роки тому

      Brudda he was shot in the head...

    • @mihirrrrr
      @mihirrrrr 2 роки тому +31

      nah he dead bro

    • @matthewbob513
      @matthewbob513 2 роки тому +18

      Why you asking Netflix like they gone respond? 😭😭

    • @fasthracing
      @fasthracing 2 роки тому

      @@mihirrrrr We saw him shot yep but do we know he's dead?

    • @fasthracing
      @fasthracing 2 роки тому

      @@matthewbob513 Maybe the chap that did the narration looks at the comments? Maybe

  • @mrstavel7785
    @mrstavel7785 2 роки тому +13

    Season 4 missed dris a bit

  • @thekid3159
    @thekid3159 2 роки тому +2

    I’m worried about Aron and stef because jamie is gone

  • @ericappiah-kubi6269
    @ericappiah-kubi6269 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant video

  • @Kipp274
    @Kipp274 Рік тому

    Sully saying "I'm here being nice" is just so funny, because the other dude has no clue of what Sully is capable of doing.

  • @WilliamsPinch
    @WilliamsPinch 2 роки тому +20

    *Sully HAS to die.* Not only does he have an in with the connect, he still has the respect of the youngers, so him and Dushane are going to be rivals. Plus killing Jamie in front of his brothers, unforgivable. Baby bro and lil girl are going to kill him if Dushane doesn’t. PLUS… I want Jaq to be TopBoy!

    • @tremell7559
      @tremell7559 2 роки тому +12

      No disrespect, but I'm glad you are not a writer for the show...

    • @hez859
      @hez859 2 роки тому +1

      Sully is a cry baby, fr

    • @tremell7559
      @tremell7559 2 роки тому +1

      @@hez859 A cry baby doesn't matter when he's burying your dry eyed corpse...

    • @nt7594
      @nt7594 2 роки тому

      You acc weirdo why would lil girl kill him please shush

  • @j.k__
    @j.k__ 2 роки тому

    Since next season is going to be the last - part of me wants them to do sully and dushane against each other in the vein of shane vendrell and vic mackey.

  • @オネスティ栗田
    @オネスティ栗田 2 роки тому

    the thumbnail looks kinda hilarious

  • @dwayneadewunmi9743
    @dwayneadewunmi9743 2 роки тому

    Amazing
    I love it

  • @imani828
    @imani828 2 роки тому

    Soooooo good!

  • @Nextman916
    @Nextman916 2 роки тому

    People trippin sayin steffan is gonna be on top…boys like 15 years old. He don’t got the sense and instinct to do that fam. Honestly even if he’s filled with vengeance, how’s he gonna take revenge? He’s going to be an blipping elephant on roads, sully and Dushane know who he is immediate. More likely season 5 will be the finale and end with some of the og’s coming to sense, some getting done up, and some continuing the life. I can see Sully end on top, Dushane is getting soft and less sharp. Him fantasizing about retirement means he’s already not there…Sully on top in my books. Not without a war with close casualties, Jaq could go.

  • @kickflipskii
    @kickflipskii 2 роки тому +1

    Stefan dropping Sully in the final season

  • @rip4326
    @rip4326 2 роки тому +1

    yo Jamies death still hurts me

  • @jbrown7
    @jbrown7 2 роки тому

    Lose lose situation if he doesn’t kill kit Dushane kills him. But by killing him sully knew he can’t trust him

  • @treywilliamson1998
    @treywilliamson1998 2 роки тому +1

    Jamie’s been watching too much fast and furious

  • @mirav5915
    @mirav5915 2 роки тому +12

    I would've loved to see a better end for Jamie. Also, I think that was a bit of overkill for Sully to shoot him that many times.

    • @BeanieBanta
      @BeanieBanta 2 роки тому +4

      Did you forget that he apparently shot Dris like 20 times? That old summerhouse tenant guy said that to Sully once. Like bro 20 times? for what? Sully is on a mad one.

    • @mirav5915
      @mirav5915 2 роки тому +4

      @@BeanieBanta Yeah, I remember. I never liked Sully even before he killed Dris. I was rooting for Young Jamie. He was my fave. Idk if I want to watch anymore.

    • @BeanieBanta
      @BeanieBanta 2 роки тому +1

      @@mirav5915 Nahh i really feel like Stefan is gonna step up and bring Dushane's empire to the ground. Knowing that he dabbled once on the gang life ting it's possible he'll be the next Jamie.

    • @mirav5915
      @mirav5915 2 роки тому

      @@BeanieBanta I guess. I’ll watch to see if that happens.

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing 2 роки тому +17

    Great series. Cuz Init. Just off to earn some pea's with food Bruv.

  • @akumauluka831
    @akumauluka831 2 роки тому

    Jamie had power over his brother in series 1, but not in series 2

  • @doubleddcyril5787
    @doubleddcyril5787 8 місяців тому

    Lizzie and lithe are the real top boys

  • @bbrielless
    @bbrielless 2 роки тому +9

    Sully's character confuses me so much. He just got done trying to fix his morales with Mandy to help her get Erin back. Then he goes and shoots Jamie right infront of his brothers knowing thats hes all they have. The character development on this show is weird and I hated that they killed Jamie for shock value and with no clear motive.

    • @LL-ip5mm
      @LL-ip5mm 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly sully makes no sense also in the other season he was having a go at Dushane saying it’s wrong he involved Jamie’s two innocent brothers with the whole framing Jamie thing bc steph is just a kid and Aron is innocent and not involved with gangs but then he goes to Jamie’s house where his two innocent younger brothers are and shoots Jamie infront of them Sully contradicts himself

  • @naturalbby1722
    @naturalbby1722 2 роки тому +2

    Stef and Aaron should’ve chosen to move to Wales cos their older brother is always there for them why can’t they be there for him just this once. They must feel a bit guilty about his death

  • @danas4065
    @danas4065 2 роки тому

    I have a question why was Jamie forced to kill kit and how come he got killed after that

  • @Clodzzzzz
    @Clodzzzzz 2 роки тому +5

    I really hope Americans can understand that this is London.😂😂😂 and London is not the way they imagine it😂😂

    • @ellaarrfwfegrw5141
      @ellaarrfwfegrw5141 2 роки тому

      Shit is crazy

    • @WilliamsPinch
      @WilliamsPinch 2 роки тому +5

      The way we imagine London is the way Sherlock Holmes intended.

    • @grindseason7728
      @grindseason7728 2 роки тому

      Why’d you care what them man think? You think they give a shit about your opinions on American tv?

    • @LL-ip5mm
      @LL-ip5mm 2 роки тому

      Well this isn’t exactly how London is this is a bit over exaggerated but yes London isn’t all glitz and glamor and deffo a lot of stabbings happening in London unfortunately but I wouldn’t say it’s like top boy . top boy is a drama series where they over exaggerate things for views and excitement

  • @TADZINHOFC
    @TADZINHOFC 2 роки тому +3

    this could be a gcse question

  • @matthewdube7448
    @matthewdube7448 2 роки тому +3

    How about Jamie in a wheelchair next season

  • @QUITUTINCIPICTURES
    @QUITUTINCIPICTURES 2 роки тому +2

    Killing Jamie is the equivalent if game of thrones killed off Jon Snow. Ned Stark of course was the first shock cause of the way we've been formated into following characters assuming they'll carry on for long periods, after his death then Rob was gone, at that point he was supposed to be the hero but at least the lead of the show was pretty much spread around multiple characters where Jon Snow was the most relatable to the audience, so you really really couldn't touch him,

    • @ro7an636
      @ro7an636 2 роки тому

      Shut ur bich @$$. This is top boy, u getme? TOP BOY.

  • @alr.3137
    @alr.3137 4 місяці тому

    What I found most disturbing, that these cute church aunties have sons that deal drugs and kill people 😢

  • @mildredfranklin6358
    @mildredfranklin6358 2 роки тому +1

    I know something's but I want tell just stay in your Lane

  • @markied2873
    @markied2873 Рік тому +1

    Jamie's death made me hate Sully.

  • @Pablo-lv3ub
    @Pablo-lv3ub 7 місяців тому

    Jamie was in the worst place possible
    Kill your best friend/brother
    Flee London be on the run ruin your brothers future or atleast make them reset it all and put them at risk
    Or deal with Dushane and Sully(the most feared men in london at the time)
    He chose to do the favour for Dushane by killing Kit but people must forgot that Sully doesn't listen to no one and still put him away

  • @jasonmcardle4087
    @jasonmcardle4087 Рік тому

    always knew it was just a matter of time till sulley popped jamie

  • @HabitualLine-Stepper
    @HabitualLine-Stepper 2 роки тому +8

    This series is about the egos of Ashley Walters and Kane Robinson, as they put themselves front and centre.
    I'm old enough to relate to the first generation of Top Boy, but I still respected the addition and development of the new characters, led by Jamie.
    This season wiped out EVERYONE who wasn't Dushane/Sully or Dushane/Sully underling.
    There was ZERO character development, and ZERO plot. Even the inclusion of the undercover detectives and Ruben was pointless to the latest series.
    Lastly, all the hype about Steph and Aaron 'taking over' - WITH WHAT CREW? Jamie killed his #2 and there will logically be no loyalty shown to Jamie's brothers by the ZT leftovers.
    At best the writers will have to redo all of season 1 with new characters. This season was a total mess, and screams of a mid-season re-writes and a disappointing lack of commitment to the project by both the actors and the producers.

  • @chi3812
    @chi3812 2 роки тому +20

    Sully is coward. Couldn't handle Jaime on the roads. So had to get man in peace times. Coward move. Jaime had him and Dushane on the ropes last season. He was pissed cause he knew he was nothing compared to Jaime. And knew he couldn't take him on the roads so made the coward move and took man out while.all the beef had died down. Sully Will lose respect for that decision.

    • @yungkingshaka1227
      @yungkingshaka1227 2 роки тому

      HUH? TF you on about Sully couldn't handle Jamie cause jamie is a hungry rat. No loyalty to anyone except whoever has food to feed him. Jamie realised Sully's level when he shot that fed in Spain

    • @doctorwhomike
      @doctorwhomike 2 роки тому +9

      Jamie was planning on having him and Dushane killed eventually man when he spoke to the fed in Morocco he said that dushane won’t be in charge much longer because he was going to cap him. The guy even said before he died that Jamie said they had big plans and sully heard that, is sully supposed to hear he wants to take over then see he will even cap his best mate and trust him? It wasn’t an ego thing Jamie would snake any man to be on top even his best mate and he tried killing them last season and tried snaking them again. Killing him l8ke that in front of his bros was fucked though but that’s the whole point the roads are the roads it gets raw, as much as I loved Jamie as a character it was them or him

    • @mohamed-eq1jj
      @mohamed-eq1jj 2 роки тому +3

      @@doctorwhomike I just wanna say one thing, he killed kit because of his brothers, he had no choice

    • @chi3812
      @chi3812 2 роки тому +1

      @@doctorwhomike So then if he was planning on smoking dushane why didn't he do that when they asked him to kill Kit. That should of been the exact time he should.put a plan in motion to.kill dushane and Sully with Kit and get the rest of the fields mandem on it. But instead he kills his right hand. Jaime made the wrong choice dealing with dem man cause he put his guard down.

    • @humanbeing4life
      @humanbeing4life 2 роки тому +3

      Sully killing everybody and NOT getting caught is SO FAKE & NOT being investigated and Jamie opening doors so freely..SO FAKE! It being a dream makes more sense🤔🤣

  • @Chimagic
    @Chimagic 2 роки тому

    A barge on the Thames? Or a narrow boat on the canal?

  • @willscharnagl6909
    @willscharnagl6909 2 роки тому +2

    ain’t no blurred line with sully that man is evil

  • @keamahlaola3582
    @keamahlaola3582 2 роки тому

    I still don’t understand why Sully shot Jamie😩😭

  • @MyLife-ni5to
    @MyLife-ni5to 2 роки тому +7

    the only thing I didn't like in this series is Dushane. his character was crap he should've been killed in this season because he doesn't play a boss role the guy has made money and then says fuck where I come from and joins forces with people no one likes and that's so deep. sully has one of the best characters. he's really the topboy his characters actions speak volumes and I feel his character was written and played so well and the build up has been crazy. second to sully is jaq the character is sick. its so London but yeah they gotta get rid of Dushane or actually do something with his character that really signifies that man is from ends but the real ending will show that there's no out of the life the character has to die.

  • @AZB2000
    @AZB2000 Рік тому

    Jamie innit

  • @tezob6119
    @tezob6119 Рік тому

    He didnt kill dris