Mystery deepens: Was the de Kooning painting the only stolen art in couple’s home?

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @danielschmitt1935
    @danielschmitt1935 Місяць тому +35

    Retired schoolteachers turned art thieves. Sounds like a movie in the works!

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 Місяць тому +3

      A real life Thomas Crown Affair

    • @alex5308
      @alex5308 Місяць тому +1

      They were art thieves their whole lives I think not just when retired! Cool story hahaha

  • @perryann6946
    @perryann6946 Місяць тому +29

    I wonder if this is the same couple that stole a priceless Chief's blanket from The Amerind Foundation in Arizona. Same sort of circumstance...late 80's...the man distracted the volunteers while the woman went upstairs, cut the blanket down and wrapped it around and underneath her oversize skirt. To date, it's never been recovered.

    • @harizotoh7
      @harizotoh7 Місяць тому +4

      Very likely and similar area. These two seem like accomplished art thieves.

    • @missladyanonymity
      @missladyanonymity Місяць тому +4

      "Accomplished" because they have the privilege to not "arouse suspicion." They aren't "profiled."

  • @carianin5293
    @carianin5293 Місяць тому +12

    Where they lived was amazing but how they lived was even more amazing. The home, the artwork, the trips around the world. And teachers at that.

  • @mprkg
    @mprkg Місяць тому +25

    It was not ripped. The husband cut it out with a blade. The couple were crooks. They lived in middle of nowhere and traveled around the world on a K-12 salary in the 1960s supposedly with 2 kids. Something very wrong with that story!

  • @_Ben4810
    @_Ben4810 Місяць тому +26

    I wonder if they were thieving or fencing stolen artworks globally whenever they travelled to such faraway locations...🤔

    • @Dovelunalove
      @Dovelunalove Місяць тому +10

      that’s what they are saying on the documentary about this. one of the neighbors had this theory. and especially because they always vacationed with their kids to exotic destinations that typically aren’t chosen for family getaways. and the man retired in his 40s. also over a million in their regular checking (not savings) was left behind.

    • @mprkg
      @mprkg Місяць тому +2

      Fencing?

    • @NeighborofKT
      @NeighborofKT Місяць тому +3

      @@mprkg yes, fencing means selling a stolen item.

  • @d.b.1858
    @d.b.1858 Місяць тому +3

    Seemingly ... you are the only one's who thought they were a, 'Seemingly Ordinary Retired Couple'.

  • @lawiwis882
    @lawiwis882 Місяць тому +3

    How are people still not sure? They were obviously thieves. I think they stole the fortune they used to fund their travels and they had a kink or thing for stealing. Why else would it be at the feet of their bed? They were proud of their actions.

  • @1ACL
    @1ACL Місяць тому +3

    Why didn't the museum in Taos list the paintings as stolen with the FBI ??? Thats weird, right?

    • @renodavid
      @renodavid Місяць тому +1

      @@1ACL They tried to do that. Another story mentions that, at the time of the theft, the artworks had to be worth more than $50,000 to be put in the FBI’s database. Those paintings probably didn’t meet that threshold at the time, but of course they do now…

    • @1ACL
      @1ACL Місяць тому +3

      @renodavid oh, ok. Thanks for responding.

  • @stjbananas
    @stjbananas Місяць тому +5

    His daughter, Lisa, was a good friend of mine here in the Virgin Islands. I saw her the day before she died at the pub I worked at at the time. She spoke so highly of her father, and the famous people who often stayed with them when she was child. I miss her dearly.

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth Місяць тому

      How did she die? I’ve seen others in the comments allege she had an IQ of 80… What more do you know about her and/or their family?

    • @stjbananas
      @stjbananas Місяць тому

      @Seeker0fTruth she was one of the most intelligent, interesting, beautiful humans I ever met, much less called friend. Her "i.q.," whatever that means, rivaled noones. She was as street smart as she was intellectually proficient.

  • @ronhat-nx6yq
    @ronhat-nx6yq Місяць тому +2

    I think this pair of thieves were really playing a joke on those who think this is art! All this just proves how looney people are. It would be interesting to know how these 2 actually made a living and how they did it.

  • @luisgordillo1695
    @luisgordillo1695 Місяць тому +21

    Just watched the one on the De Kooning painting. This Guy Has DB Cooper written all over him !! 😱😱🤔🤔

    • @spudspuddy
      @spudspuddy Місяць тому +2

      i said that, the video of him is cooper to a tee

    • @luisgordillo1695
      @luisgordillo1695 Місяць тому

      @@spudspuddy Yup He was a music teacher , could explain the metal on his tie. teachers wear ties.

  • @mr.iforgot3062
    @mr.iforgot3062 Місяць тому +8

    The art house should reimburse the buyer. The buyer has to return the paintings. It's the only way the art house will be able to stay in business.

  • @Pippi-Longstocking
    @Pippi-Longstocking Місяць тому +2

    What’s really sad, from what I understand, when the museums were contacted at first, no one responded. Makes you wonder many other painting that might have gone to auction or goodwill or trash because museums don’t respond.

    • @flyingsword135
      @flyingsword135 Місяць тому

      They don't want it back, insurance paid them. Art world is a big money laundry operation.

  • @ronhat-nx6yq
    @ronhat-nx6yq Місяць тому +2

    Abstract art: A product of the untalented sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered.

  • @myopinion6092
    @myopinion6092 Місяць тому +10

    lmao, why Hide it behind a bedroom door..if it was legally bought!! most non con artists would want to display it openly!!

    • @carenfarmer4794
      @carenfarmer4794 Місяць тому +1

      It wasn't legally bought. They stole it out of an art musuem in Tucson!

    • @bunnyluver2176
      @bunnyluver2176 22 дні тому +1

      Probably got a little delight every time they shut their bedroom door and saw the stolen art.

  • @1ACL
    @1ACL Місяць тому +2

    Wow I'm going to thrifts stores down there! Who knows what's still circulation around!

  • @spudspuddy
    @spudspuddy Місяць тому +3

    bloke who stole them looked like DB Cooper

  • @catwoman2596
    @catwoman2596 Місяць тому +3

    The executor of their Will is HORRIBLE. Just donating and giving away everything.

    • @stjbananas
      @stjbananas Місяць тому

      The family aren't greedy p's of s like the rest of the world around them.

    • @stjbananas
      @stjbananas Місяць тому

      The deKoonings, I mean.

  • @hdskl2150
    @hdskl2150 Місяць тому +1

    Of all the lifestyles to have - can you imagine being fine art thieves 😂 so cray

  • @johnanon6938
    @johnanon6938 Місяць тому +6

    What about all the small cultural artifacts that were dumped at local thrift store and the rest dumped in the trash? How much of them were stolen from other countries because as long as the couple had a (fake) receipt from something else they bought that could be passed off for the artifacts then in 1980s it would pass through customs without a thought.

  • @starriderkittykat9064
    @starriderkittykat9064 Місяць тому +17

    Sounds like maybe they we’re dealing in stolen art…

    • @chrisfleming701
      @chrisfleming701 Місяць тому +3

      Teachers don’t make enough money to buy and resell artwork even if it was stolen. More likely he was the thief.

    • @jjjones8609
      @jjjones8609 Місяць тому +2

      Plus, they traveled a lot. Perhaps the stealing of art help fund those trips? Decided to keep some of the art for himself?

    • @jjjones8609
      @jjjones8609 Місяць тому +1

      There would be receipts of those art purchases if they were really purchased legitimately. I doubt there are any receipts.

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 Місяць тому +2

      It seems as though the thrill and appreciation of art were also factors. Every couple should have a hobby they enjoy together

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth Місяць тому

      @@danielmartin7838The latter bit lol🤣

  • @MG-iu4eh
    @MG-iu4eh Місяць тому +1

    So they were art thieves posing as nice, normal regular folks! 😂

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 Місяць тому +4

    old news the teachers lived large on stolen art and are now dead

  • @bryanfrombuffalo7685
    @bryanfrombuffalo7685 Місяць тому +2

    I think he worked as a spy truthfully and the school music thing was a cover

  • @TheOtherKine
    @TheOtherKine 4 місяці тому +7

    Who the heck were these thieving couple? LMAO

    • @mprkg
      @mprkg Місяць тому +1

      Read. Google is your friend

    • @TheOtherKine
      @TheOtherKine Місяць тому +1

      @@mprkg It doesn't actually say, in any of the documentaries or news articles, they don't KNOW
      LMAO
      But you wouldn't understand what a rhetorical question is, would ya, you know it's akin to sarcasm? Ah well it's ok that you're not too smart LMAO

    • @keithangstadt4950
      @keithangstadt4950 Місяць тому

      The husband looks alot like D.B. Cooper

  • @trueloveingod2691
    @trueloveingod2691 Місяць тому +1

    They could’ve had stolen paintings stashed in storage units or other places too.

  • @veramae4098
    @veramae4098 Місяць тому

    There are sites that will sell you a painting that's an exact copy of a famous work, painted. Have your own Mona Lisa!

  • @stephaniehowe0973
    @stephaniehowe0973 Місяць тому +1

    Of course it wasnt.
    Crazy he sold it all so cheap.

  • @mprkg
    @mprkg Місяць тому +1

    Great security!

  • @Llamadosalvaje
    @Llamadosalvaje Місяць тому +1

    LOOKS LIKE THE THOMAS CROWN CASE MOVIE WHIT PIERCE BROSNAN

  • @lisasmith9311
    @lisasmith9311 7 місяців тому +3

    I’ve been searching for art my dad left to us in the 80’s they were once in a museum but my mom took them out to make sure they would be divided but she passed over 15 years ago and they were taken from her him they have to be somewhere in Lewis Clark valley or close

    • @JFKismyhusband_
      @JFKismyhusband_ Місяць тому +1

      @@lisasmith9311 are they in a bank vault possibly?

    • @starriderkittykat9064
      @starriderkittykat9064 Місяць тому +3

      I hope you have pictures of the art,if so put online asking if anyone has seen them..

    • @lisasmith9311
      @lisasmith9311 Місяць тому +2

      @@JFKismyhusband_no the whole family knew they were supposed to be divided between kids

    • @JFKismyhusband_
      @JFKismyhusband_ Місяць тому +1

      @@lisasmith9311 that sucks. I’m sorry I hope you’re able to find them, perhaps you could go to your local art school or gallery maybe they would have a clue?

  • @markjoseph196
    @markjoseph196 Місяць тому

    Why are people stealing artworks knowing that they can’t sell it ? 🤔

  • @carolr7823
    @carolr7823 Місяць тому

    They are felony thieves. How did they get all their wealth? Did they steal a lot of art and sell it?

  • @VirgilVanhelsun
    @VirgilVanhelsun Місяць тому +5

    I'm an artist I strongly believe the auction house should be shut down

    • @nikiryan8648
      @nikiryan8648 Місяць тому +3

      yep, they were local and they KNEW for sure.

  • @Naveandlaen
    @Naveandlaen Місяць тому

    They definitely stole a lot of art on their trips

  • @ridethroughmexico3494
    @ridethroughmexico3494 Місяць тому +2

    Maybe he stole it, created a reproduction and then sold the reproduction to a collector. That collector could never come forward amd the replica destroyed 👀🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @ccrabbitma
    @ccrabbitma 11 днів тому

    Two very extreme art enthusiasts.

  • @basicallyno1722
    @basicallyno1722 23 дні тому

    Not gonna lie….theyre kinda cool sounding people
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ wouldn’t invite them into my home though 😬

  • @kier3202
    @kier3202 9 місяців тому +3

    Fraud

  • @TheMiccoliGroup
    @TheMiccoliGroup Місяць тому +1

    My guess that family were in the witness protection program.

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 Місяць тому

      Doubtful. I think this how the two of them spent quality time together, in a world all their own

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth Місяць тому

      Nah…sleeper agents more likely

  • @ronhat-nx6yq
    @ronhat-nx6yq Місяць тому

    These two thieves should have placed the painting in the potty rather than just behind the bathroom door. Oh, but then it would have been more valuable because it would have smelled bad too!

  • @JLCRH
    @JLCRH Місяць тому

    Those two were evil. I don't find their story glamorous.

  • @lindafarnes486
    @lindafarnes486 Місяць тому

    I'm betting not.

  • @bryanfrombuffalo7685
    @bryanfrombuffalo7685 Місяць тому

    Ordinary... hardly... Both travels entire world ..on that salary

  • @dansherwood9851
    @dansherwood9851 9 місяців тому +4

    Stolen? Nooooo

  • @mprkg
    @mprkg Місяць тому +1

    Spielberg...
    Catch me if you can 2.0

  • @danielmartin7838
    @danielmartin7838 Місяць тому

    I like this couple!

  • @hollydisanto9148
    @hollydisanto9148 24 дні тому

    Ordinary couple. ? lol.
    Not certain. They have stolen paintings hidden In Their home ? 🤔 they travelled in a teacher salary. ? 🤔😆

  • @joyceedwards6112
    @joyceedwards6112 Місяць тому +1

    You don't make $ when it's been in your house for years

    • @keithangstadt4950
      @keithangstadt4950 Місяць тому

      Story has it that she was the model that inspired the painting. She was there as the artist was painting it. They never intended to sell it, it was personal.

  • @RumpelFourSkin
    @RumpelFourSkin Місяць тому +2

    Yawn

  • @sheepdog1102
    @sheepdog1102 Місяць тому

    They call that art? It looks like something a five year old would do!

  • @flyingsword135
    @flyingsword135 Місяць тому

    I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for that silly painting.

  • @mprkg
    @mprkg Місяць тому +1

    The painting is hideous! Wouldn't pay $1 for it!

  • @ggh546-kz6re
    @ggh546-kz6re Місяць тому

    I've seen people be convicted on much less (circumstantial evidence)
    It must be *wonderful* to have 🤔:
    "The skin-tonee , for the protection"!!! 😉
    aka: ❤ how they wrapped/solved/closed the case, w/o there being a single guilty party; (just circumstantial evidence of) who 🤷/🤐 committed the *actual theft in the 1st place* 😉
    ***What a "wholesome" story/conclusion/final ending; by the FBI/police/etc*** 🤨
    (ie/sidenote: interesting how, even after being told, both paintings weren't *immediately* listed on the FBI website....Mmmm, "as stolen art" 😔)
    -THE END ⚠️

    • @jfredmuggs56
      @jfredmuggs56 Місяць тому

      Hard to arrest and convict DEAD PEOPLE! PREJUDICED, YOU, MUCH?

  • @keithstringer1140
    @keithstringer1140 Місяць тому +1

    Yeah, I saw the documentary.