@@fearless3073 how did they f*** up? You can still play as smoke! Man even when you get the character people still make problems they just can't be pleased
I remember a brief time period where Cyber Sub-Zero was actually one of the best characters in MKXL. Then again, Triborg as a whole was insanely powerful when they first hit the scene. Sektor and Smoke are still, to this day, two of the game's best characters. CSZ is still a solid (and fun) character today, and still is miles better than in MK9, although it is not much of an accomplishment.
I know this has nothing to do with Cyber Sub-Zero's gameplay, but he easily had the best design of all Cyborgs in MK9. Since Sub-Zero's classic Fatality is him pulling the head with the spine still attached to it, making Cyber Sub-Zero's head similar to the Predator's who does a similar thing is a neat touch. (Also, funny how Predator became DLC in the next MK.)
I cannot wait until you cover the competitive histories of the other cyber ninjas. They are my all time favourite characters and listening to you talk about them is about as relaxing as it can get :)
Watching these I find myself hungering for continuation videos with commentary and analysis of iconic real matches with the characters we've learned about!
I loved playing CSZ in MK9 and MKX. I actually played you, Ketchup, in a random ranked match in MKX. I wish our connection had been better, but it was still fun.
i mean all the 4 arms in mk9 can be cheesed hella easy with the jump 2 down 2 if needed. they never could figure that out and youd catch them doing the stomp attack middair that way. of course you can do more combos after the jump 2 but if you didnt know any on the character youd do the down 2
When Ketchup makes a Mortal Kombat video you know he took his time and that he really loves Mortal Kombat. This video Is Amazing bro, Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming. I can wait to see what you guys come up with next! By the way the commentary during the PlayStation tournaments is just too good, keep it up.
Cyber Subz is one of the deadliest ideas Ed has ever come up with Freeze bombs is even. Cooler than the regular ice blast and jus look at the blue Steele of skin he has so sick we need him back ASAP
Competitive history of mk characters is one of those things you don't know you need until you discover it! Please do an Ermac competitive history!!! Your videos are great and I can feel the love you have for mk! Keep it up! Greetings from Argentina!
At the moment of me posting this comment the like ratio is 408-0, because you keep the incredible content like you always do and it shows. Cyber Sub-Zero is an excellent character and it's awesome to see that NRS did kept him through Frost in MK11, which makes perfect sense by character-design. Once again excellent video.
My Favorite to play as in MK9. I understand why people hated a Cyber Sub Zero but I enjoyed him a lot. I always wished for an action figure of him too. Hopefully one day
I have been playing alot of mkx recently, and while I knew about cyber sub zero I never really payed attention to him, being more intrested in sektor. This video had brought him to my attention and I'm really interested, I think I will pick him up now!
One of the best characters in the franchise and really underrated in my opinion, thou I know Ketchup has a soft spot for CSZ himself ;) thanks for the video ❤️
I swear I’m the only one who wishes Smoke had a Cyber Smoke skin in MK9. Even tho Sub Zero got got turned it would be nice to have, it would be easy just reuse the Cyborg MK 3 skin but in dark purple. Also say that 5 times fast, Cyber Smoke skin.
Cyber Sub was always my favorite fighter in all of Mk, and I had no idea just how fun he looks to play in X! I haven't picked up X in ages, so I might want to take a spin with him.
to be brutally honest, I prefer Cyber Hydro due to how utterly cool he was in MK Project. especially his ice liquid abilities similar to Glacius even going as far as using Glacius's morphing sfx from the SNES version of Killer Instinct.
Hey ! This is gonna be a weird request..but how about doing a Competitive history on Sheeva or Goro? Shokan's havent actually been playable all that often, so it wouldnt be too long of a video.
My second favourite Cyborg after Smoke! (sorry guys) I really liked him in MK 9. It is a shame they did a complete heel turn on him and "undid" the upgrade in X and 11.
As someone who only got into MK in MK11, the past game metas are very intresting to me. When I first got MK11 I thought Kotal Kahn, the children, and Devorah were newcomers because I never played MK 9 or 10.
I always wished that the story in X and 11 was as good as the story in 9. nothing beats the original trilogy story, so 9’s reimagining and shuffling of details was an absolute treat to experience. the stories in X and 11 just didn’t seem to have that same amount of effort and passion that 9’s story had. 11 is passable, and it gets bonus points for Aftermath, but X was just a chore of a story to get through.
I always thought that was a massive problem with the netherrealm games, the story got harder to follow with each entry and the narratives from each game never really gel for me. I always thought the story should go remake of mk1/2 next game mk 3/4 and then mk 11 could just be an original amalgamation of the events in the rest of the 3d era games
@@PNDKM in a competitive way, yes. Not someone who picks him specifically for those moves and nothing else. The playstyle you mentioned is the way I'd expect a good player to fight, not someone who just picks him up and only runs away.
@@GasMK If you pick him up for the first time and see his mobility tools, you'll probably steer to that runaway style to begin with. It is a really effective way of playing the character, although you definitely get ragemail for it. Lol
I am not a good Mortal Kombat player. I don't even mean I'm not a high-level player, I struggle to even remember let alone execute the basic combos. but I was able to do pretty well in MK X online with Cyber Sub-Zero and I'm pretty sure it's because most people hadn't seen him, or prepared against him
MK9 Cyber Sub Zero was the best version of this character and MK9 in general IS the best Mortal Kombat game ever made. Set the Bar for MKX and MK11 hands down.
I uploaded the full MK9 Arcade Ladder run I did with CSZ for this video over on K&M Plus!
Check it out : ua-cam.com/video/nVG4XWCDmYE/v-deo.html
Can you please do Reptile next? :)
I remember finding him on accident trying to handicap myself by giving triborg no variation
I found cyber sub-zero before I found out about having no variation
@@ParrotPeele I learned it and thought everyone had a secret variation
Accident? You unlock him with a button combination on PS4
@@fearless3073 the same combination that disables variations on other characters
@@fearless3073 1. It's on both consoles.
2. If you use up~up~2 on the variaton select, it goes to no variation.
I just had the thought that in this newly established MK9 timeline, wouldn't it have made more sense for Cyber Smoke to be the secret variation?
Yeah, Smoke should have been the secret variation
Yeah they clearly fucked up, but I suppose it was to appease us old people who have played forever
It would make more sense but sense Cyber Smoke wasn’t a thing and Kuai Liang was alive now they probably prioritized fan service over lore.
@ViableAndVisable netherrealm: I just can't win with you people!
@@fearless3073 how did they f*** up? You can still play as smoke! Man even when you get the character people still make problems they just can't be pleased
Slightly altered quote
“A delayed video is eventually great, an overly rushed video is always bad”
If you need a break, do what you gotta do bruv
Depends on the video.
My "Competitive History of...." Wishlist
1. Ermac
2. Reptile
3. Kung Lao
4. KABAL!!!!
5. Scorpion
6. Mustard (aka Cyrax)
7. Smoke
Love u PNDK&M!
Your top 2 have been fulfilled ;)
I've been waiting forever to see the Kabal one
@@glawrk2861 Agreed I want to see Kabal now
@@Clonekiller66 3 have been fulfilled now
I know he's only been in one game but I wanna see an analysis on my main man Jason
I remember a brief time period where Cyber Sub-Zero was actually one of the best characters in MKXL.
Then again, Triborg as a whole was insanely powerful when they first hit the scene. Sektor and Smoke are still, to this day, two of the game's best characters.
CSZ is still a solid (and fun) character today, and still is miles better than in MK9, although it is not much of an accomplishment.
Probably why we don’t get the main robots in MK11, they end up being super top tier in the two games they are already in for the new generation
High level csz is actually really bad. He actually takes skill to win with at a high level
Give more respect to MK9 Cyber Sub-Zero.
THANK YOUUU THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVE CHARACTERS
My too
It's a no-brainer: I see K&M in my notifications, I click
#FuckingRelatable
Even a Trump can do it!
I know this has nothing to do with Cyber Sub-Zero's gameplay, but he easily had the best design of all Cyborgs in MK9.
Since Sub-Zero's classic Fatality is him pulling the head with the spine still attached to it, making Cyber Sub-Zero's head similar to the Predator's who does a similar thing is a neat touch.
(Also, funny how Predator became DLC in the next MK.)
Cyber sub has some on the coolest looking combos of all characters man, especially in the corner
I cannot wait until you cover the competitive histories of the other cyber ninjas. They are my all time favourite characters and listening to you talk about them is about as relaxing as it can get :)
Bro likes to relax to the sound of other men
@@danceyrselfkleen your point being?
@@danceyrselfkleen Fellas is it gay to enjoy a youtube video???
Watching you play Cyber Sub in MKX inspired me to give him a try. Keep it up!!!
Fantastic vid as always! Cyber Sub was one of my mains in MKX and it's good to retroactively know I wasn't playing him wrong lol
ok ok. so Sektor is Ketchup, Cyrax is mustard. what do we call Cyber-Sub? Relish? Mayo?! FROSTING?!
Ice cream
@@refer9465 whip cream
cyber smoke is mayo, and cyber sub is seahorse milk. goes well with bran flakes.
He's Toothpaste.
Watching these I find myself hungering for continuation videos with commentary and analysis of iconic real matches with the characters we've learned about!
Cyber Sub's main design is fucking goated.
Sucks he didn't retain it somewhat in MKX.
All thanks to Quan Chi
Oh how nrs has changed. Went from giving us four characters for the price of one, to charging 10 bucks for a single fatality
Man im sick (not corona) and cant sleep, this is just what i needed... Thanks for making documentary-like content man. Love ya
Get well soon dude :)
NOT CORONA LOL
I loved playing CSZ in MK9 and MKX. I actually played you, Ketchup, in a random ranked match in MKX. I wish our connection had been better, but it was still fun.
No Sub Zero seems to be able to keep ahold of his human form. Kuai Liang got his back, but damn.
The Sub Zero Curse.
I love CSZ in mkx and thanks to an old stream highlight yall posted I finally found a 50% corner combo off a setup
Now that I've watched this and have the secret tech, I can finally beat the Goro/Kintaro tag team in MK9 story mode.
Single-Player only tech huh? That's something I would like to see.
i mean all the 4 arms in mk9 can be cheesed hella easy with the jump 2 down 2 if needed. they never could figure that out and youd catch them doing the stomp attack middair that way. of course you can do more combos after the jump 2 but if you didnt know any on the character youd do the down 2
Just joking guys.
1:10 Mortal Kombat (2011)
12:20 Mortal Kombat XL
My favorite NRS character ever. Glad to see he’s not forgotten ❤️
Nice seeing you and the series back
I love that triborg has 4 variations instead of having a no variation option
When Ketchup makes a Mortal Kombat video you know he took his time and that he really loves Mortal Kombat. This video Is Amazing bro, Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming. I can wait to see what you guys come up with next! By the way the commentary during the PlayStation tournaments is just too good, keep it up.
Cyber Sub-Zero implies the existence of a Cyber Dom-Zero.
Thank you so much for this.
I love Cyber Sub-Zero's design and move set. He is so interesting.
I hope Triborg returns in MK11 so we can use him again.
Let's just say I believe we'll probably just get Sektor (potentially w/ Cyrax assists) and maybe Smoke separately.
I love the shoutout to the pioneers of the character! Would like if you continued that in future videos!
Looking forward to this one! Mkx cyber zub was so fun. Will be nice to see what this character could do in other games
Cyber Subz is one of the deadliest ideas Ed has ever come up with Freeze bombs is even. Cooler than the regular ice blast and jus look at the blue Steele of skin he has so sick we need him back ASAP
Competitive history of mk characters is one of those things you don't know you need until you discover it! Please do an Ermac competitive history!!! Your videos are great and I can feel the love you have for mk! Keep it up! Greetings from Argentina!
One of my favorite characters in entire MK history and my main MK9.
His MKX appearance was the best innovative take on MK's cyborgs.
The most underrated character in my book
damn I was just binging through the 25 year cyrax and sektor special and thought about this. Cheers!
At the moment of me posting this comment the like ratio is 408-0, because you keep the incredible content like you always do and it shows. Cyber Sub-Zero is an excellent character and it's awesome to see that NRS did kept him through Frost in MK11, which makes perfect sense by character-design. Once again excellent video.
#PNDKM thank you! We’ve ALL been waiting for new content from the bois. Definitely appreciate this. Awesome content as usual. 👌🏼🤙🏼
My Favorite to play as in MK9. I understand why people hated a Cyber Sub Zero but I enjoyed him a lot. I always wished for an action figure of him too. Hopefully one day
at the 21:03
weird how nether realm made the holograms internal mouth "texture", :shape, idk what to call it
visible. kinda jarring if you ask me
I have been playing alot of mkx recently, and while I knew about cyber sub zero I never really payed attention to him, being more intrested in sektor. This video had brought him to my attention and I'm really interested, I think I will pick him up now!
Give him a go. He's super fun!
This series is just so good
Really hope they bring back Cyber-sub in a future MK game. I always found him really cool in MKX (even tho I played Cyber-smoke more than cyber-sub)
One of the best characters in the franchise and really underrated in my opinion, thou I know Ketchup has a soft spot for CSZ himself ;) thanks for the video ❤️
Thank you for the Video . Big Cyber sub fan! 🔥💥
Man, Triborg was just perfect. And I loved Cyber Subzero, looked so cool, so much fun to play, and the combos were soooo stylish.
I swear I’m the only one who wishes Smoke had a Cyber Smoke skin in MK9. Even tho Sub Zero got got turned it would be nice to have, it would be easy just reuse the Cyborg MK 3 skin but in dark purple. Also say that 5 times fast, Cyber Smoke skin.
I really wish cyber subzero and other characters were there own separate combo. But most importantly I wish there was cyber Shirai Ryu
Thanks for using his MK3 skin in the video
Yeah I was wondering how much of Frost was even pulling from Cyber Sub Zero.
I was so sad that Quan Chi was low tier too. He’s my favorite character in the MK universe.
Whiff divekick juggle combos are the coolest shiz whenever I see them.
hey, now that I think about it... MK vs DC Sub-Zero also had that parry. nice
Ending the video on that slide brutality was the sickest thing you could've done.
MKX cyber sub was so fun man
Cyber Sub was always my favorite fighter in all of Mk, and I had no idea just how fun he looks to play in X! I haven't picked up X in ages, so I might want to take a spin with him.
Great video as always 👏🏻
I have owned MKX for 7 years now, and just now i learn there Cyber Sub is in it.
"grab MKX on Steam or PS4 or whatever"
- that is tight! :)
Ive been waiting this moment soo long!!
This video was amazing. I can't wait for the other videos
Cyber sub zero is my guy!
to be brutally honest, I prefer Cyber Hydro due to how utterly cool he was in MK Project. especially his ice liquid abilities similar to Glacius even going as far as using Glacius's morphing sfx from the SNES version of Killer Instinct.
My favorite mkx character. Those corner unblockables made me feel like a god
*YOU ARE NOT SO FEARSOME.*
Got my drink, my joint, my chair, time to enjoy some kontent
Cyber sub’s my favorite cyborg 😂 but in mkx I played Smoke cause I couldn’t figure him out
Love doctrine Dark and EXprominence
Hey ! This is gonna be a weird request..but how about doing a Competitive history on Sheeva or Goro? Shokan's havent actually been playable all that often, so it wouldnt be too long of a video.
Kintaro almost always gets the shaft...
Cyber Sub was always a favorite of mine as a kid. For some reason I like cyberized variations of characters like metal sonic.
Baraka should be next. He's a fun character that's had a very weird history, hasn't he?
Recharge my batteries, cyber subzero, c'mon man this stuff writes itself
awesome, Love your Kontent!!
Great vid. However, the music playing during the MKX portion was distracting. What's up with it lol.
It's Mortal Kombat 1 music. it's been in tons of my other videos.
My second favourite Cyborg after Smoke! (sorry guys) I really liked him in MK 9. It is a shame they did a complete heel turn on him and "undid" the upgrade in X and 11.
one of the koolest character designs ever!!!! also koolest movesets
As someone who only got into MK in MK11, the past game metas are very intresting to me. When I first got MK11 I thought Kotal Kahn, the children, and Devorah were newcomers because I never played MK 9 or 10.
Glad you enjoy them!
Welcome back!
Great video
i think a full video on frost would be great you can do whatever though [ i love this series]
I always wished that the story in X and 11 was as good as the story in 9. nothing beats the original trilogy story, so 9’s reimagining and shuffling of details was an absolute treat to experience.
the stories in X and 11 just didn’t seem to have that same amount of effort and passion that 9’s story had. 11 is passable, and it gets bonus points for Aftermath, but X was just a chore of a story to get through.
I always thought that was a massive problem with the netherrealm games, the story got harder to follow with each entry and the narratives from each game never really gel for me. I always thought the story should go remake of mk1/2 next game mk 3/4 and then mk 11 could just be an original amalgamation of the events in the rest of the 3d era games
I would like to see a competitive history of the joker video from you in the future
How about kobra, shinnok, taven, bo rai cho, tanya? Love these.
You love Kobra? But why tho
@@likenoother6561 i love these videos i meant but i like the 3d characters too
I used to main CSZ in MKXL before and after his nerf, he was so fun to play with
I wanna play an on-disc but not updated version of MKXL so I can remind myself over pre-patch triborg
@@PNDKM If i'm not mistaken, pre-nerf CSZ was the best character to corner carry once you hit a launcher and they nerfed it
I’m having diarrhea
Wow look how unique his drone buffs were... not just a glorified damage buff.
They were mostly for extra damage in the ones you'd use the most, but the added utility for the strings were a really welcome addition.
Good to hear that you are taking care of yourself, even better that you are back thoo 😏
JayZbottomlip is a good cyber-subzero player for Mkx.
I made my own Cyber Sub Zero in Armageddon, but I named him Cyber Zero lol
Are we not gonna talk about his way of fighting in MKX?
SLIDE, INSTANT DIVE, GROUND BOMB, B2, RUN AWWWAAAAAYYYY
I did mention those things
@@PNDKM in a competitive way, yes. Not someone who picks him specifically for those moves and nothing else. The playstyle you mentioned is the way I'd expect a good player to fight, not someone who just picks him up and only runs away.
@@GasMK If you pick him up for the first time and see his mobility tools, you'll probably steer to that runaway style to begin with. It is a really effective way of playing the character, although you definitely get ragemail for it. Lol
Triborg Smoke variation was fucking amazing. Love using it.
The only thing i found confusing about this is that he has an MK3 costume in MK9.
I think they were just going for a cool what if scenario kind of thing
@@MGSBlackCat17 It actually makes him look close to Smoke from MK3, which fits given their friendship.
I hioe we get a Smoke episode! Keep up the good work!
This video will be 1 year old tomorrow
You should make a all character tier list
I am not a good Mortal Kombat player.
I don't even mean I'm not a high-level player, I struggle to even remember let alone execute the basic combos.
but I was able to do pretty well in MK X online with Cyber Sub-Zero and I'm pretty sure it's because most people hadn't seen him, or prepared against him
My favorite combo 20:08-20:20
MK9 Cyber Sub Zero was the best version of this character and MK9 in general IS the best Mortal Kombat game ever made. Set the Bar for MKX and MK11 hands down.
Finally mk content!!!
can you do a (sorry if im bothering you) competitive history of smoke? the human version at least