Single console exclusive characters was a dumb cross promotion choice imo. It didn't usually affect the games meta in any significant way, that character is less played since it will be banned from competitive to include players from all platforms (with crossplay it could unbalance the play field between consoles) and ultimately players would desist from spending money in that character for those reasons in the first place, not getting to know the games/show/movies/comics they came from.
@@Cliperinho indeed. But I totally understand why they didn't continue doing it. Imagine a playstation only character pass. Or a Xbox character pass. Sounds good on paper until you see Predator as part of the Playstation exclusives while Xbox gets Rambo.
It’d be somewhat cool if “exclusive” would mean the character is free on their console, but paid on others, but that’s highly unlikely lol Licensing can be a pain sometimes
I really hope Kratos comes back as a guest character. Not only does he have a whole new set of gear that could be great for a fighting game along with having a lot of potential for intros (Prior experience with MK and being a new person essentially can make for some interesting conversations), but Sony has become less stingy over the years so NRS could likely talk them into allowing the God of war to be in all versions.
I remember fighting Jason players in ranked. Worst experience of my life. And if your opponent picked Acidic Alien it was GG's. Thankfully almost every character was broken at some point in MKX.
If I got a nickel for every time a third party character named "Joker" was really strong throughout the lifetimes of the games they're in, I'd have two nickels. It isn't much, but it's kinda weird that it's happened twice.
I get the impression Freddy barely spoke in mk9 because wb was trying to shill the Michael Bay movie and NRS, being somewhat aware, just didn't give him lines because they knew everyone hates this version. If dead by daylight is anything to go by, I don't think we could so much as expect a Robert Englund voice mod on PC.
Fun fact: ash Williams from the evil dead was planned to appear in MK11 but was canceled due to rights issues because all the movies in the series are owned by different companies, and they could only get the rights to one of the movies. They had joker as a last minute replacement, explaining how weird joker looks
Kratos and his arena were both done very well. I wish my boy saw some actual tournament play but alas. Also dude who is 2 meters+ is the shortest in cast lmao Alien's Tarkatan variation was a very creative way of including Baraka, I think. Triborg is also excellent. DLC characters seem to be just far better made in general.
Base characters are worked on by the majority and since production starts they get a lot of work that when the game drops the last stuff they work on is new characters for that game and to add certain variations to change the game up then the guest characters are the balance to see how they are doing if a character is broken they fix it then add a new op character to balance out the busted one with a better player happens every year now when the game just comes out
Eh, his height is a wash. It's been super inconsistent in his own media so if he's tiny compared to everyone else here while hunched over, I can even be mad.
Alien, Predator and the Joker really fit MKs brutal nature. Joker especially feels like he's been uncaged from what comics and animations would allow him to do. I like him in MK more than in Injustice!
The utter laziness of the _Alien_ design just having Baraka claws though lol _"This one came out of one of Baraka's people"_ Well make it come out of Cetrion so it can zone properly
Joker in Mortal Kombat is really funny to me because the only reason he keeps breathing in the DC Universe is because of how many heroes have a no kill rule. Mortal Kombat is a completely different environment, a vast majority of characters would not hesitate to kill Joker.
With Robert Englund having already voiced Scarecrow in the Injustice games, they must have him voice Freddy as a guest character in MK 12. Can you imagine all the awesome one liners he'd deliver?!
@@familyneves9777i dont think its impossible for a guest character to come back but it will take a few games before they may return and scarecrow in mk1 would be fucking sick i hope they add harley or deathstroke like the rumors say
I feel like if freddy was in mk nowadays he'd have more interesting gameplay, most of his moves consist of claw attacks which is disappointing. There isnt much references to stuff he does in the films. If there had to be a returning guest in a future mk, freddy would be my pick.
I'm guessing it was because he was based on the 2011 remake version that didn't have any of the wacky cool and fun stuff that Freddy had in the old days
Completely agree about Freddy. He became famous (infamous) for being pretty much the only horror movie villain that had a personality. Every other monster of the week would lumber toward you without speaking, but Freddy always had a slick comment or put down to say as he closed in for the kill. I think NRS would do a much better job incorporating that into the game today. Freddy for MK12!
Playing as Kratos after God of War 3 is super cool. He has items which he got during the game and they work exactly the same. Blades of chaos, Hermes's boots, Head of medusa, Head of , bow of Apollo, the list goes on. Cool detail is Kratos arena which is eternal flame chamber from the game finale where you fight Zeus
LOL Kratos being short is something I always laughed about in MK9 since hes an absolute giant in the games while other characters have average huma high.
@zetahoven4556 My feelings exactly. I view guest characters as using up space that could’ve been used for classic fan favorites from the game to come back.
I'll never forget one of sonic fox's mkx matches his opponent was using relentless Jason and switched his buttons. He just got a full combo off it cos he said he memorised the button swap
i feel like freddy in mk9 was based off the remake of a nightmare on elm street, who was a lot less quip-like and was kind of just mr. horror guy but that could just be me
I'm a Rambo main, and thanks to him being pretty unpopular, nobody knows how to counter, I play with the m60, combo extensions, and the roll, thanks to his extended combo command grabs he's unstoppable face to face, and the m60 is an amazing counter to zoners, Rambo is slept on
the only time I run into rambo's they spam enhanced m60 and arrows like every robocop player. It's super annoying, but when you find one that fights without being a spamming zoner he's cool
I just love Kratos, the animations all match really well to God of War 3, it feels very authentic, like if Santa Monica made the character for the game
These videos are always a treat after a long day Thank your so much for uploading these videos! You're part of the reason I got into Mortal Kombat in the first place😄
I used to use robocop as a close combat character when he first came out using the low shot, rocket wrist, and flamethrower, I would even use the parry as a guessing gaming, since I’ve used Kano before and knew how to peer pressure player and mess with their minds from time to time
If Konjurer Alien actually grabbed a character when the facehugger leapt out of the egg, it became something like an unblockable because it would combo from alien's grab & re-capture & punish a teched throw. It's very freaking good.
I kinda hope Rambo comes back; like... I was amazed at how well he just kinda _fits_ with the other kombatants, esp given how he _doesn't want to be there._ How cool would it be for NRS to secure some multi-game licensing agreements for some of these guys?
I would love for MK12 to have the Doom Slayer as a guest character. It would work best for him to have some kind of ammo management gimmick to offset strong projectile options as that’s the core gameplay loop in Doom itself
Well we got a weird choice of choosing 2 supermans at once (homelander and omni man) i am actually worried about this choice I dont see the point of 2 characters that are clones of super man (ability wise) They are great characters and all i liked them in the boys and invincible But having both of them as guest characters and in the same kombat pack? This is just so weird for me
@@zweihander00 tbf homelander could have alot more zoning options than omniman. i wouldve preferred battlebeast over omniman tbh but i love invincible so im still hyped
@@zweihander00I don’t think Invincible is as popular as the Boys though. They’re both great shows, and I love Omni-Man, but I think Homelander would be a better fit for the games. Especially if they get Antony Starr to VA. The smarminess of his character would fit so well, as opposed to Omni-Man’s pure sense of superiority and dismissal of those weaker.
Not gonna lie, I find it hard to go back to the other two modern MKs just because they don't have Spawn in them. Yes that is a completely shallow reason but dammit he was always one of my favorite comic book characters and I was so bummed out he didn't make the cut in Injustice 2 where he would have been awesome, calling out the Regime on their bullshit left and right. But hey, being able to explode punks like Shao Kahn and Evil Liu Kang with that cape was definitely the way to go. Plus using both of Johnny Cage's Fatalities on Joker is something I never knew I wanted so badly in my life :3 And holy cow this ended up being the definitive fighting game to live out the cinematic rivalry between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone.......okay fine they didn't actually get Arnold but still. _Dude they finally put Sora in Smash Bros, oh man they got SS4 Gogeta in FighterZ now!_ Who fucking cares?! This game has Arnold VS. Stallone! XDXDXDXD
MK-9 Kratos: It’s almost sad how he was banned considering how good he could have been. MK-9 Freddy: Have you ever been zoned? ‘Yes.’ Would you like to? MK-X Jason: A simple, beginner friendly character that anyone can get into with a lot of utility. (Personally I love him whenever I go back to MK-X) MK-X Predator: Do you love his franchise? You better have a change of pants ready for this entry. MK-X Leatherface: Leatherface is a surprise hit in recent eras. You’ll have fun with this guy. MK-X Alien: Prepare to bite faces, he was the strongest character in the game but you can still play him well. MK-11Terminator: Get to the controller. He is very grab based and you can have a lot of variety of grabs. Also, crushing blows can be fun. MK-11 Joker: A very *very* strong character with some of the best base kit pieces in the game. He is extremely strong. MK-11 Spawn: Highly demanded and is very cool. Competitively he was rough but now is kinda demanding but is still pretty good if you get the timing down, enjoy the damage! MK-11 Robo-Cop: Freddy 2, Zoning Boogaloo. Enjoy being on the opposite side of the screen and the highest health pool in the game. MK-11 Rambo: Your abilities are very key on what your Rambo will be doing. If you can get good at him then you’ll be fine but it will be harder then other characters. TLDR: If you like guest characters then you’ll be just fine playing them in a competitive setting (except maybe Rambo)
Kratos would work extremely well in new Mortal Kombat. But honestly him getting respect in newer Soul Caliburs would also be lit. I mean he's been in both and his dialogue would be amazing with characters. Also Nightmare from Soul Calibur in new Mortal Kombat. How would that work? Could it actually work?
Rambos double donkey kick can stop terminators chase down attack, and all it takes is to press the kick button while moving forward, so that and you send the person FLYING and damage them a really good bit
I do find it funny that kratos, 1 of the only characters in MK9 who had answers for Kabal was not only day 1 banned just cause console exclusivities a bitch but also he loses to the most random of matchups
The reason why you dont see a lot of rambos is because hes more based on the skill of the player.. you have to work with him because his moves are very situational hes like yoshimitsu in tekken.. lots of diffrent tools for diffrent stuff but you dont use all of them all the time..
This is the closest we'd get to a tier list if they ever made a game with all of these instead of just like 3 every new MK, which are barely similar Kombat-wise.
There is something about MK9 that makes the animation look more natural than the latest MK games, even MK1. I can't figure it out but the engine of MK9 is amazing and made me wish NRS utilized this engine more.
I played Jason a lot in Mkx. It was always funny to get people in the corner and get the damage buff up with relentless because they’d freak out and try to armor out just to get slapped. Also found a situational tech with him. If you guess someone will try to wake up with armor use a fast button (I like b1 and f3) into enhanced bear hug. 1st hit hits the armor and command grab punishes it so it’s only good for safe wake ups.
Pre-DLC I was a pretty devout Shang Tsung/Kano main but nowadays I find myself almost exclusively playing Robocop & Rambo. It's super fun watching players like Roethor, Destroyer & Sooneo get wins with them they are so fun! Another excellent video K&M!
God Kratos is one of the coolest guest characters to ever grace a fighting game so of course he's locked behind a specific version of the game. I understand why but I'm just really glad this practice has seemingly died for fighting games. Now if only it could die for every game genre, Sony to this day will wave there money around to get exclusive stuff on multi-platform games.
Love how their guest theme seems to be popular vs matches of characters that people have always wanted to see fight in pop culture. Still waiting on Master Chief and the Doom Slayer
I’m kinda surprised to hear Rambo is held in such low regard. His buttons are near lightning fast and he has was to mix up going from brawling to zoning in the base builds. I also think most of his attacks have little recovery so he’s viable for anyone who attacks quick and changes ups tactics to throw opponents trying to figure him out
Another perfect Ketchup video, thanks! It's really interesting to me, to see info on Kratos since I only had the PC version of 9 but loved GoW. Really great stuff here!
The sad bit is I wanted to join a tournament for MK9. But when I found out Kratos was banned - I was a God of War fanatic at the time, odd as that may be - I became somewhat despondent. Didn't really have a stable internet either, so online play was impossible. A part of me wonders if MK9 will ever get re-released. Then again, I also wonder when MK Arcade Kollection & a version of MK Trilogy will be released, minus all the bugs/negatives.
This is what UA-cam was made for. You definitely deserve the shoutout I gave on my video. Please keep doing these! PS: I don't even like playing MK. That's how good those videos are!
The hilarity with MK Robocop is that he's extremely simular to Robocop: Alpha Commando. Both versions are basically Inspector Gadget with weapons, and are much quicker than the movie version.
I found out that Kratos has a horrible time against Raiden. Those slow buttons vs Raiden's teleport and fast moves. It was great. Speaking as a huge Raiden player in MK9. (I played Tag for a majority of MK9's prime. Mained Kabal and Raiden)
It’s nice to learn about Kratos. He’s such a mystery (especially considering he’s a modern fighting game character in a very mainstream series) that I’ve always heard he was shiva tier and just sorta believed it because what little we’ve heard for about a decade is he’s slow and has good damage.
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Sick vid Ketchup! Which EX2 Plus song is playing in Alien's section? Never heard it before! :)
Thanks, can you do a MK competitive history on Jade?
7:45 I think the reason Freddy was more creepy was because it was based off the more gritty reboot
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"Competitive History of Mortal Kombat's Guest Characters"
Starting with Kratos....
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Yup he was broken
@@tbone2416 Frame data?
@@bruhmoment3338 yeah but he was only banned because of console exclusivity
@@aaronlaplace5902 yeah but I’m pretty sure he would also get banned if he was for everyone
Shame we’ll probably never get predator back, he was such a flawless fit for the series
ikr
i still wish an mk armageddon 2 with aaaaall the characters including all guests
Yeah. Imma be perfectly honest, I wish they just saved Jason, Predator and Alien for MK11
Yea but no guest character returns more than once lol
@@9etherNeo i mean, we said the same thing about no repeat dlc and look what happened to Rain.
"and now here's rambo"
literally describes rocky balboa's style
It's still Stallone I guess
Leatherface honestly has one of the best brutalities in X the Hammer brutality as his butcher variation is just freakin brutal
Ikr i remember my first time watching it on youtube thinking if they REALLY just did this
Also he was a really fun character to play
Single console exclusive characters was a dumb cross promotion choice imo. It didn't usually affect the games meta in any significant way, that character is less played since it will be banned from competitive to include players from all platforms (with crossplay it could unbalance the play field between consoles) and ultimately players would desist from spending money in that character for those reasons in the first place, not getting to know the games/show/movies/comics they came from.
This is the reason Kratos was the only time they ever did this.
@@sebastiancintron29 Yeah and it is a shame, he seems pretty underrated.
@@Cliperinho indeed. But I totally understand why they didn't continue doing it.
Imagine a playstation only character pass. Or a Xbox character pass. Sounds good on paper until you see Predator as part of the Playstation exclusives while Xbox gets Rambo.
Soul Calibur needs to see this.
It’d be somewhat cool if “exclusive” would mean the character is free on their console, but paid on others, but that’s highly unlikely lol
Licensing can be a pain sometimes
I really hope Kratos comes back as a guest character. Not only does he have a whole new set of gear that could be great for a fighting game along with having a lot of potential for intros (Prior experience with MK and being a new person essentially can make for some interesting conversations), but Sony has become less stingy over the years so NRS could likely talk them into allowing the God of war to be in all versions.
And you can even include Atreus with the Kameo system !
@@ethanmandengue3870 You're a fucking genius my guy
I don't think Sony will allow Kratos considering his rebranding. He's still committed with gratuitous violence but now with purpose
@@manbat4582 they added him in fucking fornite. I'm sure mk would work just as well.
@@lucky4d725 yea, and he doesn't really commit gore in Fortnite
I remember fighting Jason players in ranked. Worst experience of my life. And if your opponent picked Acidic Alien it was GG's. Thankfully almost every character was broken at some point in MKX.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, guess what?
*Lightning strike*
I was looking for a comment like this.. can’t stand Jason and Alien players!
@@sephykira3825fuck how could you!
Time to torment with Jason in MultiVersus now
Me: Sees "KM" on transitions...
Also Me: ...Kortal Mombat
Me: kabob Monday...
But it's Wednesday 😂
Playing as Alien was the most fun times I ever had in any fighting game.
Same. Alien was amazing. So true to the source material, yet still so FUN!
Alien and Predator are my Favorite characters no contest. Just so fun. one is more power and pressure, the other is crazy setup combos.
The acid spit damage over time was immediately obvious as incredibly powerful
@@bradjeffords4451 I was just thinking how he looks so much like a guy in a suit like the original. It’s nice for the fans really.
Chie pfps never miss
If I got a nickel for every time a third party character named "Joker" was really strong throughout the lifetimes of the games they're in, I'd have two nickels. It isn't much, but it's kinda weird that it's happened twice.
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@@christian_agu5683 The Joker in MK11 and Joker in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
@@LloydTheZephyrian yeah I forgot about that one
I didn't get it for a second
@@LloydTheZephyrian well The Joker also in Injustice 1 and 2 aswell as MK vs DC
If Freddy was in MK11 he'd be the best character dialogue wise
I get the impression Freddy barely spoke in mk9 because wb was trying to shill the Michael Bay movie and NRS, being somewhat aware, just didn't give him lines because they knew everyone hates this version.
If dead by daylight is anything to go by, I don't think we could so much as expect a Robert Englund voice mod on PC.
@@hardgay7537 he meant that the dialogue in mk11 is utter garbage.
@@zoltanz288 yeah and he’s wrong
@@hardgay7537 There also wasn't much dialogue in MK9 anyway. No one said much outside of individual lines in MK9.
I can just imagine the Dialogues between Freddy and Spawn.
"Hello, Rambo, from MK11"
"Hello, Rocket Raccon, from UMvC3"
*Forest traps in everywere!*
I now want someone to recreate the manly handshake from Predator, but its Rambo and Rocket Raccoon.
Log trap boulder trap net trap
Fun fact: ash Williams from the evil dead was planned to appear in MK11 but was canceled due to rights issues because all the movies in the series are owned by different companies, and they could only get the rights to one of the movies. They had joker as a last minute replacement, explaining how weird joker looks
Also Campbell doesn’t want him in the game
@@StroeyBro Well he just said there were no plans for ash to appear in MK11. Also it's weird cuz ash was also literally in fortnite.
7:17 wtf I never noticed Gaia was peaking into the temple from outside lol
That’s actually amazing
I can just feel Kratos saying "boi" from a distance. Love your work mate.
Boi
BOI
This is the og Kratos, instead, he'd say "Calliope"
Finish Boi!
@@mirrorslash028 or pandora
Kratos and his arena were both done very well. I wish my boy saw some actual tournament play but alas.
Also dude who is 2 meters+ is the shortest in cast lmao
Alien's Tarkatan variation was a very creative way of including Baraka, I think. Triborg is also excellent. DLC characters seem to be just far better made in general.
Yeah, I’ll give WB that, they do put effort into the guest characters I hope it stays that way
Base characters are worked on by the majority and since production starts they get a lot of work that when the game drops the last stuff they work on is new characters for that game and to add certain variations to change the game up then the guest characters are the balance to see how they are doing if a character is broken they fix it then add a new op character to balance out the busted one with a better player happens every year now when the game just comes out
Eh, his height is a wash. It's been super inconsistent in his own media so if he's tiny compared to everyone else here while hunched over, I can even be mad.
LMAO
Kratos is super underrated as a guest character.
His reveal trailer was just as awesome. Right as Scorpions about to kill SubZero...
*HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER*
And the rest was history.
@@blok--head7472 so sad that he was Playstation exclusive cause he really was as awesome as advertised
Kratos's mk9 trailer was the greatest thing to come out of mk
He's literally the most overrated one apart from Jason
Alien, Predator and the Joker really fit MKs brutal nature.
Joker especially feels like he's been uncaged from what comics and animations would allow him to do. I like him in MK more than in Injustice!
The utter laziness of the _Alien_ design just having Baraka claws though lol
_"This one came out of one of Baraka's people"_ Well make it come out of Cetrion so it can zone properly
@@MegaZetalmfaooo
Maybe animations but comics is where joker gives 0 fucks and just goes crazy killing and destroying whatever he pleases
Joker in Mortal Kombat is really funny to me because the only reason he keeps breathing in the DC Universe is because of how many heroes have a no kill rule. Mortal Kombat is a completely different environment, a vast majority of characters would not hesitate to kill Joker.
7:17
"Across the board, This stage as well was not allowed to be played"
Gaia in the back: *menacing tree stare
With Robert Englund having already voiced Scarecrow in the Injustice games, they must have him voice Freddy as a guest character in MK 12. Can you imagine all the awesome one liners he'd deliver?!
What if we got Scarecrow himself in Mortal Kombat, since it's incredibly unlikely that there would be a repeat guest character?
@@familyneves9777i dont think its impossible for a guest character to come back but it will take a few games before they may return and scarecrow in mk1 would be fucking sick i hope they add harley or deathstroke like the rumors say
I feel like if freddy was in mk nowadays he'd have more interesting gameplay, most of his moves consist of claw attacks which is disappointing. There isnt much references to stuff he does in the films. If there had to be a returning guest in a future mk, freddy would be my pick.
I'm guessing it was because he was based on the 2011 remake version that didn't have any of the wacky cool and fun stuff that Freddy had in the old days
It'd be Kratos for me
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@Reese This information has changed my life forever. Thank you my friend.
@@princesssweepzzt5502 It should, being wrong for no reason doesn’t help you in any way :)
Completely agree about Freddy. He became famous (infamous) for being pretty much the only horror movie villain that had a personality. Every other monster of the week would lumber toward you without speaking, but Freddy always had a slick comment or put down to say as he closed in for the kill. I think NRS would do a much better job incorporating that into the game today. Freddy for MK12!
Yeah if he came out in X alongside Jason he’d be perfect
I’ll never get tired of guest characters and hope they keep coming
Playing as Kratos after God of War 3 is super cool. He has items which he got during the game and they work exactly the same. Blades of chaos, Hermes's boots, Head of medusa, Head of , bow of Apollo, the list goes on. Cool detail is Kratos arena which is eternal flame chamber from the game finale where you fight Zeus
Talk about an awesome mixed bag i have had a soft spot for all the guest charecters! Awesome video as always love this series 100%
MAN I CAN'T UNSEE TINY MK9 KRATOS
HE'S A GNOME
Manlet!
I mean, he is an ancient Mediterranean. People back then were pretty smol by today's standards.
@@georgesears934 the man is like 2 meters
LOL Kratos being short is something I always laughed about in MK9 since hes an absolute giant in the games while other characters have average huma high.
Kratos was AWESOME! All of his items from GOW 3 and the quick time event special move were all a great touch
While I'm not a huge fan of guest characters, I have to admit that the work that goes into these characters is very impressive
weird choice of video to watch then, don't ya think?
@@EllieVaricuber no, what is weird about it? Seems perfectly normal
@@jebalitabb8228 then I'd suggest you buy glasses
@zetahoven4556 My feelings exactly. I view guest characters as using up space that could’ve been used for classic fan favorites from the game to come back.
@@karnerblue7658old bag
I'll never forget one of sonic fox's mkx matches his opponent was using relentless Jason and switched his buttons. He just got a full combo off it cos he said he memorised the button swap
Sonic Fox is something else. I love them
Was not expecting this competitive history, great video
I'd like to suggest either nightwolf, shang tsung, or kabal next, since MK11 is done.
Buff Rambo. He's such a cool addition it's a damn shame he isn't better so we can see him more.
i feel like freddy in mk9 was based off the remake of a nightmare on elm street, who was a lot less quip-like and was kind of just mr. horror guy
but that could just be me
I'm a Rambo main, and thanks to him being pretty unpopular, nobody knows how to counter, I play with the m60, combo extensions, and the roll, thanks to his extended combo command grabs he's unstoppable face to face, and the m60 is an amazing counter to zoners, Rambo is slept on
He's fun.
the only time I run into rambo's they spam enhanced m60 and arrows like every robocop player. It's super annoying, but when you find one that fights without being a spamming zoner he's cool
@@primary2630 yea m60 spammers are toxic they have full auto Jacqui energy 😭😂
Rambo's not that bad but if _no one_ you're playing can counter that stuff, you need to play against more people
I think you forgot to mention that slasher Jason is one of the few characters in mkx with an armored projectile. Loved this video nonetheless.
I think you wanted to bring up a related topic and didn't know how to do it without whining
Had to give this a like for the EX2+ music and the great production!
do you know what the song is at 14:12?
I just love Kratos, the animations all match really well to God of War 3, it feels very authentic, like if Santa Monica made the character for the game
Between the fond memories of me eating Jason Low Overhead in XL, to the sick SFEX music choice, this was a great video on Modern MK Guests!
These videos are always a treat after a long day
Thank your so much for uploading these videos! You're part of the reason I got into Mortal Kombat in the first place😄
I used to use robocop as a close combat character when he first came out using the low shot, rocket wrist, and flamethrower, I would even use the parry as a guessing gaming, since I’ve used Kano before and knew how to peer pressure player and mess with their minds from time to time
I'd love a NetherRealm Studios fighting game where you can play as one of many horror icons, "Terrordrome" style.
Imagine Pinhead's Fatality...
It makes sense that Rambo of all characters would have to work the hardest, given the fact that he's just a dude.
I absolutely love these competitive history videos and this will be no exception as I love the guest characters. Allons-Y Ketchup!
7:18 Gaia scared tf outta me 😭😭😭
If Konjurer Alien actually grabbed a character when the facehugger leapt out of the egg, it became something like an unblockable because it would combo from alien's grab & re-capture & punish a teched throw.
It's very freaking good.
New Alien tech for me in 2021?
Not all heroes wear capes.
@@bradjeffords4451 well it’s kinda been a thing, I mean the grab into face hugger setup
@@JinisBored i just didnt know about it. Mkx is so fun!!!
Roether's Rambo will always be one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched in MK11.
Freddy ended up sucking so bad because he was based of that failed reboot that most even the original freddy actor, Hated with a passion.
Man MKX was really something else. Leatherface is my favorite guest character so far
I kinda hope Rambo comes back; like... I was amazed at how well he just kinda _fits_ with the other kombatants, esp given how he _doesn't want to be there._ How cool would it be for NRS to secure some multi-game licensing agreements for some of these guys?
Fantastic video once again dude, going back through all of the guests from MK9 to MK11 was a real treat!
Nope :)
25:02 I see what you did there lmao
I don't get it.
@@michaelmccoy1794 terminator variation name
26:08 nice touch! I love the details like those that I miss the first time watching
I would love for MK12 to have the Doom Slayer as a guest character. It would work best for him to have some kind of ammo management gimmick to offset strong projectile options as that’s the core gameplay loop in Doom itself
Well we got a weird choice of choosing 2 supermans at once (homelander and omni man) i am actually worried about this choice
I dont see the point of 2 characters that are clones of super man (ability wise)
They are great characters and all i liked them in the boys and invincible
But having both of them as guest characters and in the same kombat pack? This is just so weird for me
@@zweihander00 tbf homelander could have alot more zoning options than omniman. i wouldve preferred battlebeast over omniman tbh but i love invincible so im still hyped
@@mydrillasanjay5397 who's battlebeast? Never heard of him.
Would you give me the show's name.
@@zweihander00 Invincible
@@zweihander00I don’t think Invincible is as popular as the Boys though. They’re both great shows, and I love Omni-Man, but I think Homelander would be a better fit for the games. Especially if they get Antony Starr to VA. The smarminess of his character would fit so well, as opposed to Omni-Man’s pure sense of superiority and dismissal of those weaker.
Kratos would literally fold everybody
Worse than sindel 🤣🤣
Tarkarten alien was insane when it first dropped god fucking damn lol
The guest characters in MKX are what got me into the series. I couldn’t do a special or string to save my life so Jason was just so satisfying to play
Not gonna lie, I find it hard to go back to the other two modern MKs just because they don't have Spawn in them. Yes that is a completely shallow reason but dammit he was always one of my favorite comic book characters and I was so bummed out he didn't make the cut in Injustice 2 where he would have been awesome, calling out the Regime on their bullshit left and right. But hey, being able to explode punks like Shao Kahn and Evil Liu Kang with that cape was definitely the way to go. Plus using both of Johnny Cage's Fatalities on Joker is something I never knew I wanted so badly in my life :3
And holy cow this ended up being the definitive fighting game to live out the cinematic rivalry between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone.......okay fine they didn't actually get Arnold but still. _Dude they finally put Sora in Smash Bros, oh man they got SS4 Gogeta in FighterZ now!_ Who fucking cares?! This game has Arnold VS. Stallone! XDXDXDXD
MK-9 Kratos: It’s almost sad how he was banned considering how good he could have been.
MK-9 Freddy: Have you ever been zoned? ‘Yes.’ Would you like to?
MK-X Jason: A simple, beginner friendly character that anyone can get into with a lot of utility. (Personally I love him whenever I go back to MK-X)
MK-X Predator: Do you love his franchise? You better have a change of pants ready for this entry.
MK-X Leatherface: Leatherface is a surprise hit in recent eras. You’ll have fun with this guy.
MK-X Alien: Prepare to bite faces, he was the strongest character in the game but you can still play him well.
MK-11Terminator: Get to the controller. He is very grab based and you can have a lot of variety of grabs. Also, crushing blows can be fun.
MK-11 Joker: A very *very* strong character with some of the best base kit pieces in the game. He is extremely strong.
MK-11 Spawn: Highly demanded and is very cool. Competitively he was rough but now is kinda demanding but is still pretty good if you get the timing down, enjoy the damage!
MK-11 Robo-Cop: Freddy 2, Zoning Boogaloo. Enjoy being on the opposite side of the screen and the highest health pool in the game.
MK-11 Rambo: Your abilities are very key on what your Rambo will be doing. If you can get good at him then you’ll be fine but it will be harder then other characters.
TLDR: If you like guest characters then you’ll be just fine playing them in a competitive setting (except maybe Rambo)
Kratos would work extremely well in new Mortal Kombat. But honestly him getting respect in newer Soul Caliburs would also be lit. I mean he's been in both and his dialogue would be amazing with characters.
Also Nightmare from Soul Calibur in new Mortal Kombat. How would that work? Could it actually work?
Rambos double donkey kick can stop terminators chase down attack, and all it takes is to press the kick button while moving forward, so that and you send the person FLYING and damage them a really good bit
I gotta say when I saw all the horror movie characters I was losing my mind then seeing predator? I practically had a heart attack of joy
It's hilarious how the Alien is literally just called that and looks like a guy in the costume.
Kratos will forever be my favorite guest character. I remember being a lil kid staying up till 3 am bodying every character in towers 🤣🤞 good times
I do find it funny that kratos, 1 of the only characters in MK9 who had answers for Kabal was not only day 1 banned just cause console exclusivities a bitch but also he loses to the most random of matchups
Guest characters really are what started MK's decline into being a joke
I always thought Alien was a genius guest character, with the xeno having Tarkatan mouth and blades bringing a little bit of Baraka back
The reason why you dont see a lot of rambos is because hes more based on the skill of the player.. you have to work with him because his moves are very situational hes like yoshimitsu in tekken.. lots of diffrent tools for diffrent stuff but you dont use all of them all the time..
A better player is usually also better with any character, as a rule
@@MegaZeta Same. This is such a common logical fallacy. All it proves is that the character in question is not consistent or reliable
This is the closest we'd get to a tier list if they ever made a game with all of these instead of just like 3 every new MK, which are barely similar Kombat-wise.
man i wish kratos was never console exclusive
he would be so cool to see in high level play
There is something about MK9 that makes the animation look more natural than the latest MK games, even MK1. I can't figure it out but the engine of MK9 is amazing and made me wish NRS utilized this engine more.
I played Jason a lot in Mkx. It was always funny to get people in the corner and get the damage buff up with relentless because they’d freak out and try to armor out just to get slapped. Also found a situational tech with him. If you guess someone will try to wake up with armor use a fast button (I like b1 and f3) into enhanced bear hug. 1st hit hits the armor and command grab punishes it so it’s only good for safe wake ups.
Pre-DLC I was a pretty devout Shang Tsung/Kano main but nowadays I find myself almost exclusively playing Robocop & Rambo. It's super fun watching players like Roethor, Destroyer & Sooneo get wins with them they are so fun! Another excellent video K&M!
God Kratos is one of the coolest guest characters to ever grace a fighting game so of course he's locked behind a specific version of the game. I understand why but I'm just really glad this practice has seemingly died for fighting games. Now if only it could die for every game genre, Sony to this day will wave there money around to get exclusive stuff on multi-platform games.
imo its better than microsoft buying out multiplatform ips and making them exclusive
Love how their guest theme seems to be popular vs matches of characters that people have always wanted to see fight in pop culture. Still waiting on Master Chief and the Doom Slayer
Kratos needs to be in MK12, his current iteration in GOW4/Ragnarok would be perfect!
i’m so excited to see your input about the MK1 guest characters when they come out
I’m kinda surprised to hear Rambo is held in such low regard. His buttons are near lightning fast and he has was to mix up going from brawling to zoning in the base builds. I also think most of his attacks have little recovery so he’s viable for anyone who attacks quick and changes ups tactics to throw opponents trying to figure him out
Watching mkx gameplay makes me see how fast the combat gameplay is
Another competitive history! Awesome work like always!
It's borderline kriminal that Freddy Krueger of all characters doesn't get any one-liners.
My favorites were definitely Alien, Predator, Jason, Leatherface, and Robocop.
One of the best guest characters is Spawn in MK11, has an excellent neutral game and so many safe moves, also his combos are highly damaging
The horror franchise characters were absolutely brutal man
Another perfect Ketchup video, thanks! It's really interesting to me, to see info on Kratos since I only had the PC version of 9 but loved GoW. Really great stuff here!
The sad bit is I wanted to join a tournament for MK9. But when I found out Kratos was banned - I was a God of War fanatic at the time, odd as that may be - I became somewhat despondent. Didn't really have a stable internet either, so online play was impossible.
A part of me wonders if MK9 will ever get re-released. Then again, I also wonder when MK Arcade Kollection & a version of MK Trilogy will be released, minus all the bugs/negatives.
MK9 isn't even backwards compatible on the Xbox One or Xbox Series X
@@stressedrex I know. Which is sad.
Which is yet another reason why I say it needs a re-release...
VLJV's Leatherface was ridiculous. Great stuff Ketchup and Mustard
This is what UA-cam was made for. You definitely deserve the shoutout I gave on my video.
Please keep doing these!
PS: I don't even like playing MK. That's how good those videos are!
Acidic Alien was public enemy #1
By this point, NRS could make an entire fighting game out of all the guest characters they had.
I would love to see more vg characters as guests, wouldn't be too farfetched to have someone like Doom Slayer or Albert Wesker in MK
31:40 I just realized when robocop gets burned the t-800 models shows for a split second
The hilarity with MK Robocop is that he's extremely simular to Robocop: Alpha Commando. Both versions are basically Inspector Gadget with weapons, and are much quicker than the movie version.
I found out that Kratos has a horrible time against Raiden. Those slow buttons vs Raiden's teleport and fast moves. It was great.
Speaking as a huge Raiden player in MK9. (I played Tag for a majority of MK9's prime. Mained Kabal and Raiden)
I'd love to see Ash Williams & Deathstroke one day 🔥🔥🔥
The falling xenomorph reminds me of that scene from icarly where gibby falls from the ceiling lmao
Icarly? I bet you're 35
this is great, would be cool to see an Injustice guest character breakdown as well
Yeah unfortunately it’s Remake Freddy … if it was the OG Freddy well it would’ve been a different story
It’s nice to learn about Kratos. He’s such a mystery (especially considering he’s a modern fighting game character in a very mainstream series) that I’ve always heard he was shiva tier and just sorta believed it because what little we’ve heard for about a decade is he’s slow and has good damage.
You guys should interview Sikander. That would be a freaking riot.