@@BobbyGeneric145 You do not have the ego to be a bad captain; also you have nothing to prove, you do *all* of the pre-landing checklists, you do use your instruments and if you have to divert and a flight cannot happen the next day, that's insufficient planning of someone else, not an emergency for you. Besides, you figure a plane that just needs refuelling but is at a nearby airport is better than a broken one on the 'right' airport.
But that call sounded very late and a late call is also a recipe for disaster. It is like bidding at an auction: you need to know and set your limits well ahead of time and stick to them.
*+thefactorypilot145* and then.. if ypu all😊 have disagreements (over the reason/s for the go around etcetera).. then you all.. trip the CVR switch to off and... get into 🤝🏼 fist 🤜🏼fights🤛🏼 😁 right💪🏽¿?
I knew the First Officer personally. Its very disheartening to realise that had his calls for a Go-around been acknowledged, this wouldn’t have happened!
Name and country/ region of her/his usual residence. . . Was the person a desi wikipedia.org/wiki/desi living in South Asia¿ Or was s/he an expat in South Asia who operated from some other home country? . Kids, family?😞😢
@@sailaab Captain was Deepak Sathe, 58 years old, former Wing Commander at the Air Force and flying commercially since 2005. First Officer was Akhilesh Kumar, 32 years old with 1723 hours experience. Both were Indian citizens from India and living in India.
The fact that you are able to pronounce names of these places with a tonality exactly same as we Indians do just proves the level of dedication that goes in to the content! Great video as always!
He is Indian. If anything, he slightly Americanizes his pronunciations of South Asian names. (It would’ve been cool if he’d said “Kozhikode,” but that might have confused folks.)
@@tula__ Yeah, it’s fairly subtle. I now know for sure, but at first, I just had a hunch based on what I was hearing in his accent, which is quite Americanized overall, but was a bit less so a year ago or so, and which retains some distinctly Indian/South Asian characteristics. I’m an American born to immigrant parents from South India, a musician, and a bit of a linguistics nerd, so I guess I’m unusually attuned to hearing these differences. (One nerdy example, in case anyone cares: Pronouncing the “th” in a word like “thunder” as an aspirated dental stop /t̪ʰ/ (like _थ_ as written in Devanagari or _థ_ in Telugu), rather than as a voiceless interdental fricative /θ/.)
Linguistics discussion on an air crash video. Apart from the video being informative, comments also are absolutely wonderful. Tragic incident, absolutely avoidable.
My brother miraculously survived the crash, but his friend didn't make it. Karippur ( Calicut as mentioned here) and nearby Mangalore airports are considered very risky as they are tabletop airports. I personally skip it when traveling. My brother still not over the mental shock.
The airport authority was very lousy in attending the scene. However the brave local people rushed to accident site and pulled out all survivors and got them to hospitals in private vehicles even before authorities arrived. Such a great gesture from them...
One of the three most useless things in aviation, "the runway behind you." So sad that CRM was completely ignored. The first officer knew this landing was doomed and his go around call should have saved lives.
@@millomweb they would be, "the sky above you" and "the air in the fuel tanks" (for that last one sometimes its phrased "the fuel on the ground" - same idea though)
I would have thought that the runway behind you will be a GOOD thing when you have just taken off, it means the plane is normally in the Air. Sometimes that is not the case though. So I ask about other things you eluded to as well as the situation, approach/departure that may be pertinent to your comment Mr Carey? John, Australia. Useless?
I love it when you always give into consideration the amount of stress the pilots deal with. It's hard to do an important decision under limited time and severe stress.
No matter HOW RUDE and egotistical the pilot is, you FOs, nav's and etc., REFUSE to be IGNORED! Lives ARE at stake and ONLY you seem to remember that fact!!!
I thought it was basically law at this point that a go-around call can't be ignored, and if anyone on the flight deck calls for a go-around you are supposed to do it.
@@VibhorWase there was a study which concludes asian co-pilots in general are reluctant to point out the captain's mistakes in aviation sector. So, not just India, all of asia. Sadly in this case, he mentioned the issue but the captain ignored killing both of them and more than 100 passengers. :(
@@VibhorWase Mentour pilot has a video on this incident and details how the "culture" played a big part in what happened. See, "WHY this Aircraft CRASHED Down a RAVINE in India | Air India Express flight 1344" Can't post a link it gets deleted.
They always say that a 1st office could implement a go-around by themselves if they feel the approach is wrong. Wonder how many 1st offices careers have survived after doing that, regardless if they were right or not?
This is why Australian airlines have never crashed. I was a pilot for a major Australian airline famous for never having crashed. If a captain does not listen to or punishes a co-pilot for input the captain will be sacked.
@@disturbed4733 I know for fact it’s instant dismissal if any pilot does not go around if any pilot says go around. Even a 20 year check captain must listen to a suggestion by second officer on their first day, or instant goodbye never return. We were always taught, when in doubt go around is sacrilege here.
@@OZBarStories That's very interesting. No doubt the words "go around" should be held in very high regard, anytime they are spoken it should trigger an automatic response from everyone in the cabin to set up for it. It's easier to explain a failed landing attempt than a crashed plane.
The final report was released on 9/11/21, with a summary - "The pilot in command did not do a Go Around despite the call for it by the co-pilot, who also failed to take over the controls." This was also an issue with Korean Air, in that the co-pilot would never dare to overrule a captain (former military); even if the plane was not being flown according to procedure(s).
Wide body aircrafts 777, 330 and 747 has operated successfully. All what the crew need to do follow the SOP by all means, and since we had 2 similar incidents with the same Company the crew management should be rewritten.! Thanks for your video and its presented very well.
I remember my younger brother coming to me in a hurry and saying 'you might be interested, there's a plane crash at Kozhikode' as he knew I am interested in everything aviation. The initial reports were that the plane overran the runway because it was wet and the tyres skid over it. Thanks for bringing out the real cause. Brilliant video, as usual..
The most amazing fact that reduced the casualty was that the flight IX 1344 did not blast even though it had been cracked into three, Also the timely interventions of locals daring the chance of explosion. The flight was a part of "Vande Bharat" mission to evacuate Indians abroad in view of Corona virus outbreak.
A fancy name given to flight operation after restricting international flights because of the challenges in screening all arriving passengers efficiently for covid and distributing tickets through official channels only for which the passengers paid for as they'd do for any flight. Pure propaganda. Few weeks ago saw in the news that the injured/next of kin of people who lost their lives are yet to get full compensation for the accident.
Airplanes don't "blast" when they breach off the runway like this, man! It wasn't a high speed crash. The plane was probably going less than 80kmph when it broke apart. That is why most people survived the crash too.
Get-There-Itis is a real thing. The pilot is stessed out, needs to be on the ground ASAP, doesn't want to redo the aproach AGAIN because it realy is taxing, just want's to get down and be done. This poor decision-making sadly is part of our human nature, can be mitigated to some extend, but one needs to be aware of it all the time. The pilot knew that if he had to divert the company would have to cancel the flight for the next day, so he probably wanted to land at all costs, ignoring the fact that a crash would have the same effect.
@@anantgautam2485 I don't know if that is a thing for Air India, but if it is it needs to be adressed and banned ASAP, because this is an inherent security risk. Just culture needs to be a thing, especially in aviation. Incentives like that are actually hidden punishments for valueing security over profit.
Poor CRM, once 1 of them called Go Around, you go around, no questions asked. The Airlines even made it so you don't have to explain yourself like years ago. No reason they didn't do a go around
@@anantgautam2485 _that company would cut his incentives etc for extra atf consumption_ How many go-arounds of fuel consumption add up to the bill for repairing that plane or buying a new one? Penny-wise, pound-foolish.
Thanks for the video and very detailed explanation, myself being Indian I wasn't aware of any or much of the facts regarding this crash, very clear detailed and thorough research, I'm really amazed by the level of research you have made on this fact and information about this incident, I can understand how much effort you put behind every video that you post. All the best
That typical Indian behavior. Praise all the staff etc. and deflect the blame on destiny. That way the Govt/private owner's need for compensation is minimized.
@@themalayalipetrolhead3843 The pilots Association does not investigate the cause of the crash. The official crash report clearly indicates that pilot input and non input as well as pilot decision making during the landing were the cause of this aviation crash
Of all the missteps on this flight, the most glaring has to be the captain’s ignoring of his first officer’s call for a go around. Both guys in the cockpit are equally responsible for the safety and navigation of the aircraft at that phase of flight - there is no more hierarchy.
@@markusloitfelder3469 I can agree that the inferior rank of the first officer may stop him from making the go around call, but in this case it didn't. The Captain is trained AND obligated to make the go around regardless of who makes the call, because the call may be made due to things he's unaware of (maybe first officer noticed landing gear didn't engage, saw an elephant on the runway, or any number of other things).
@@stupidas9466 you didn't understand me correctly: BECAUSE there's still some hierarchy (extent varies) in some cultures in some cases a go around simply won't happen if it's the FO making the call without the Captain understanding for what reason. It's not good.
As it would mean so much to you if I were to hit the subscribe button, I was sorely tempted … but I figured that you might have misspoken and did not really want me to unsubscribe by hitting that button again.
Wow congrats on your upcoming 100k subscribers. Glad to say I found your channel right before you hit 5k. Honestly you’re one of the few channels where I always watch the new videos as soon as they come out
Runescape Stats, I was with this channel, like you from the near beginning, this channel is great 👍. I watch all the Air Crash videos, this channel has the best. He will breeze right past 100k due to viewers like us
Really.. I just noticed.. seems like few month ago (can’t remember when exactly I found this channel) there were only barely 2OК.. And after he said almost 1OOK, I was like wait what.. and looked at the subscription counter 😱
I love your narration. You are so easy to listen to. Your pronunciation is excellent. No loud music or sound effects are necessary as they would only mess up your narrative. Keep up the good work and I will look forward to more of your aircraft incidents.
I think sometimes that the pilots often forget the most important thing and that is that the precious Cargo that they carry, the passengers lives, are often forgotten and the pilots life problems get in the way instead.
Rooting for you to hit that maaaaagic number of 100.000 subscribers! You really deserve it. Great analysis as always. You, Mentour Pilot and Disaster Breakdown are all amazing channels for us who loves anything and everything that has to do with airplanes. Keep on doing what you're doing, I love every second of your videos!
Great episode. I've never heard of the Black Hole Approach before so I learned something today. Brilliant graphics too! The methodical way you report these accidents enables ignorami like myself to follow and understand. Thank you.
Just wanna say I greatly appreciate you doing these vids! Its interesting to hear about incidents that werent covered by Mayday or Seconds from Disaster. Its like an extension to the Accident Case Studies that AOPA does sometimes, which I love. Much appreciate!
I am really intrigued by these airline documentaries but some of them are nearly an hour long (I'm looking at you Wonder) ... I don't always have that kind of time, I really appreciate that yours are always a reasonable length
Air India may not be good at lot of things but they always have great Pilots as they usually recruit ex-Air Force Pilots...The Slain Pilot was a retired Air Force Pilot with Immense Experience with a 737...its disappointing to witness the wisest commit mistake...but end of the day we are all Humans... RIP to everyone passed
A mistake is something you do unknowingly, the captain knew what was happening and he chose to ignore it even after the FO called for Go-around. This happened due to arrogance of the power.
Hey man, I'm a TV youtube viewer so I don't get to comment much but I just wanted to log on and say congratulations about the channel! I've been subscribed to you since pretty much the beginning and I've loved your channel ever since. Try and grab some more interviews like the one with Jello, the F/A-18 pilot you had on for that one episode back about a year ago. That was awesome! Keep it up man! Loving this!
Agreed. Also really enjoyed the interview with the British Airlines 747 pilot who saved his flight from disaster after flying through volcanic ash (BA flight 8?).
I had a pretty rough day but was pleasantly surprised to see a new video from this channel. Seriously, it made my day a little better. Keep up the good work man, it’s definitely appreciated.
@@Truthnowalways Perspective...theory of relativity... refocusing onto real suffering...distraction...many reasons I can relate to including: It's NOT all about me!
I land in this airport atleast 8,10 times a year. When he mentioned The air india 425 to Delhi, it got me chills as its my usual flight from Calicut to Delhi
I'm from kerala and I remember this disaster, Some info on what happened after the crash, the locals heard the sound and they all rushed with their cars to reach there. They carried as much people they could to nearest hospitals, this was during a peak spread of covid in gulf countries, and this flight was one of the rescue flights to bring back indians to their homeland. This was initial time of COVID and everyone was scared but the locals didn't mind and they did the maximum they could, people were piling up in hospitals all accross Calicut to donate blood for the injured. All the locals participate in the rescue was quarantined and they were given a salue of respect from the Kerala state police. I have heard of a plane crash at same airport in the past too.
Calicut Airport was asked by Civil Aviation authorities in India to make the necessary changes at the runway before the rainy season. Unfortunately, the implementation was delayed
Thanks for the video mate, the details are amazing.. CCJ is my home airport and it's great view when approaching both runways 28 & 10 above the green valleys carpeted with coconut tree tops! 🌴🙂 Subscribed 👍🏽
I used to visit CCJ once or twice a year and i can say that tabletop runways are very hard to land on. Ignoring a go-around call is a bad thing to do when there are bad weather conditions and certainly worse if there is an airport nearby and it isnt affected by rain.
The centre lights weren't working, the windshield wiper was extremely slow, the captain was hyperglycaemic.All of these led to poor decisions.If you ever know under such high stresses, one can't even hear and that was the exact situation of the Captain.If you know the centre lights of a runway generally begin where the runway starts and this was crucially missing in the beginning of this runway!!
General comment across all your videos. Please state times in local time, not UTC. UTC usually gives a wrong impression of the state of daylight at the incident site. In this incident, local times are UTC + 5:30, so 1:59 pm UTC is actually 7:29pm local time
I appreciate the effort and research you put into these videos. Also, you concentrate on the factors that led to each crash and potential ways to avoid similar accidents. (And crashes that didn't happen but almost did!) Most "full length" investigations spend at least 20 minutes talking about various passengers who died. Details about how wonderful some of them were and how they'll be missed, and what school they were attending, etc. etc. Yes, it's tragic but virtually all of us have lost people we loved (due to accidents, age, disease, whatever). Our own losses are no less important. I'd rather learn succinctly about the accidents themselves, and you do that so well, taking into account weather, schedules, mechanical equipment, pilot pressures, etc. Well done.
2 significant things which are ommited here. 1. Captain was diagnosed with diabetes and he was talking ayurvedic medicines which are obviously not aviation certified. Prior to flight or during flight he did not eat and that my result in low sugar in the body. 2. Cockpit gradient was higher in Airindia Express and company culture is also an issue here.
Fatalities were luckily lower since the terrain had a drop of only about 20 feet at the runway end and there was no post crash fire. If the drop had been higher , then not many would have been lucky
Another B737 in 3 pieces after a mishap. Very common so study the seats you select on these planes. I'm guessing they separate around the attachment bulkheads. Some examples Turkish Air crash in Amsterdam, American Air in Kingston, Jamaica, B737 crash San Andres Island, B737 crash Instanbul, 737 crash in Bali, 737 crash in Shenzhen. A lot harder to Find AB 320s breaking in 3 pieces in similar events.
The PF (captain) was an IAF pilot with a very senior pilot with lot of experience and the FO being pretty junior perhaps prevented him to be more emphatic I suppose.
In your video, it seems that the crash occurred on the second landing attempt, but according to Wikipedia, the aborted 2 attempts and the crash occurred on the third.
Since the go around call wasn't acknowledged it's possible the Capt. never heard it. Studies have shown that in high stress moments and high work loads like floating down the runway he was so focused that he never heard it.
Amazing technology we have in striving to make aircraft safer with more components,but yet the flip side is that how many more things can go wrong especially trying to troubleshoot when seconds count? The burden of stress grows exponentially . The margin of error especially when flying is extremely small. Because they are so sophisticated, I can understand why they have a checklist, but even that can be overwhelming in certain situations. We were taught in the military you never skip any steps or take shortcuts. It is a recipe for disaster that will come back to haunt you if you survive the ordeal. Kudos to all pilots for what they are trained for and have to endure with so many variables. Not for the faint of heart!
I wonder why Approach Control is not also able to command go-arounds. Perhaps an airport knows better if a plane is stable as it approaches touch down because who else would know better?
I would say with this length, the airport must be able to take in wide-bodie jets. Maybe, they can deviate from the standards, and enforce stricter rules in given types of weather, i.e. storms, wet runway at dark, crosswinds, etc.
Air india used to operate 747 from calicut till runway recarpeting works began in 2014. From 2019 Saudia used to operate with A330 0r 777's . But after the crash DGCA banned the operation of wide bodied aircrafts in calicut airport
They need more Illumination around the airport and proximity sensors in the Wheels itself. It rains heavily there. But with few more effective solutions for visibility and landing assistance, it seems like the airport can handle Jumbo jets.
Why would the captain be so focused on making the next flight? If that flight ends up cancelled because of a difficult landing, so what? At least people are safe. If you don't finish the one in progress safely you won't get another flight.
That silver Play button is so close, it's probably already on a courier truck waiting to be dispatched. :) Edit: Damn... 21 fatalities from an overshoot. Terrible outcome.
You missed the part where "ego" of the captain did add to the situation. He was a veteran pilot for Indian army and this might be one of the reasons why first officer's request for go-around has not been acknowledged.
"If we dove into all of that, we'd be here for hours." Go on.
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I know that this is supposed to be mini, but yeah, I wouldn't mind some supplementary/bonus episodes on specific incidents if there's more info.
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I wouldn’t mind either. I’m liking this channel more and more.
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Ignoring a go-around call if nothing is wrong with the plane is almost always a great recipe for disaster.
Truth. If my FO says go around, I initiate it and once we get the jet cleaned up, then I ask why.
@@BobbyGeneric145 You do not have the ego to be a bad captain; also you have nothing to prove, you do *all* of the pre-landing checklists, you do use your instruments and if you have to divert and a flight cannot happen the next day, that's insufficient planning of someone else, not an emergency for you.
Besides, you figure a plane that just needs refuelling but is at a nearby airport is better than a broken one on the 'right' airport.
But that call sounded very late and a late call is also a recipe for disaster. It is like bidding at an auction: you need to know and set your limits well ahead of time and stick to them.
@@jamescaley9942 Probably would have saved them, since the end of the runway was a depression and not a mountainous area
*+thefactorypilot145* and then.. if ypu all😊 have disagreements (over the reason/s for the go around etcetera).. then you all.. trip the CVR switch to off and... get into 🤝🏼 fist 🤜🏼fights🤛🏼 😁 right💪🏽¿?
I knew the First Officer personally. Its very disheartening to realise that had his calls for a Go-around been acknowledged, this wouldn’t have happened!
Name and country/ region of her/his usual residence.
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Was the person a desi wikipedia.org/wiki/desi living in South Asia¿
Or was s/he an expat in South Asia who operated from some other home country?
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Kids, family?😞😢
@@sailaab wtf is a desi bruh. No one says that
Well, he was my uncle. And he fought in the great war! And personally knew Jesus!
@@sailaab Captain was Deepak Sathe, 58 years old, former Wing Commander at the Air Force and flying commercially since 2005. First Officer was Akhilesh Kumar, 32 years old with 1723 hours experience. Both were Indian citizens from India and living in India.
May your friend rest in peace.
The fact that you are able to pronounce names of these places with a tonality exactly same as we Indians do just proves the level of dedication that goes in to the content! Great video as always!
He is Indian. If anything, he slightly Americanizes his pronunciations of South Asian names. (It would’ve been cool if he’d said “Kozhikode,” but that might have confused folks.)
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar I could have never guessed!
@@tula__ Yeah, it’s fairly subtle. I now know for sure, but at first, I just had a hunch based on what I was hearing in his accent, which is quite Americanized overall, but was a bit less so a year ago or so, and which retains some distinctly Indian/South Asian characteristics. I’m an American born to immigrant parents from South India, a musician, and a bit of a linguistics nerd, so I guess I’m unusually attuned to hearing these differences. (One nerdy example, in case anyone cares: Pronouncing the “th” in a word like “thunder” as an aspirated dental stop /t̪ʰ/ (like _थ_ as written in Devanagari or _థ_ in Telugu), rather than as a voiceless interdental fricative /θ/.)
Linguistics discussion on an air crash video. Apart from the video being informative, comments also are absolutely wonderful. Tragic incident, absolutely avoidable.
My brother miraculously survived the crash, but his friend didn't make it. Karippur ( Calicut as mentioned here) and nearby Mangalore airports are considered very risky as they are tabletop airports. I personally skip it when traveling. My brother still not over the mental shock.
The airport authority was very lousy in attending the scene. However the brave local people rushed to accident site and pulled out all survivors and got them to hospitals in private vehicles even before authorities arrived. Such a great gesture from them...
@@Intolerantmoron So sorry for all the trauma,hope your brother is in a better condition now
One of the three most useless things in aviation, "the runway behind you." So sad that CRM was completely ignored. The first officer knew this landing was doomed and his go around call should have saved lives.
What are the other 2 ?
@@millomweb they would be, "the sky above you" and "the air in the fuel tanks" (for that last one sometimes its phrased "the fuel on the ground" - same idea though)
@@lilkc1 Erm, the air in the fuel tanks will assist with floating ;) #Hudson
@@millomweb lol good point. I'll stick with saying "the fuel on the ground" then
I would have thought that the runway behind you will be a GOOD thing when you have just taken off, it means the plane is normally in the Air. Sometimes that is not the case though. So I ask about other things you eluded to as well as the situation, approach/departure that may be pertinent to your comment Mr Carey?
John, Australia.
Useless?
'Those who cannot learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.'
Learn from other’s mistakes… you’ll never live long enough to make them all!
You only get to repeat a historic fatal air crash once.
I love it when you always give into consideration the amount of stress the pilots deal with. It's hard to do an important decision under limited time and severe stress.
That's exactly why "just go around" should be a more acceptable suggestion.
Then they should not be pilots. It's hard but it can costs life
That's why FO and CRM exist duh!
Are you justifying pilots faults because of stress ?? shame full!!
No matter HOW RUDE and egotistical the pilot is, you FOs, nav's and etc., REFUSE to be IGNORED! Lives ARE at stake and ONLY you seem to remember that fact!!!
I thought it was basically law at this point that a go-around call can't be ignored, and if anyone on the flight deck calls for a go-around you are supposed to do it.
That's correct.
Ego plays a big role in India in every profession..not to mention lack of maintenance of the equipment, and a non-existent work-life balance
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@@VibhorWase there was a study which concludes asian co-pilots in general are reluctant to point out the captain's mistakes in aviation sector. So, not just India, all of asia.
Sadly in this case, he mentioned the issue but the captain ignored killing both of them and more than 100 passengers. :(
@@VibhorWase Mentour pilot has a video on this incident and details how the "culture" played a big part in what happened.
See, "WHY this Aircraft CRASHED Down a RAVINE in India | Air India Express flight 1344"
Can't post a link it gets deleted.
They always say that a 1st office could implement a go-around by themselves if they feel the approach is wrong. Wonder how many 1st offices careers have survived after doing that, regardless if they were right or not?
This is why Australian airlines have never crashed. I was a pilot for a major Australian airline famous for never having crashed. If a captain does not listen to or punishes a co-pilot for input the captain will be sacked.
@@OZBarStories I didn't know that. Glad to hear it since I fly Qantas and Virgin Australia a lot. Well, I used to before COVID.
@@disturbed4733 I know for fact it’s instant dismissal if any pilot does not go around if any pilot says go around. Even a 20 year check captain must listen to a suggestion by second officer on their first day, or instant goodbye never return.
We were always taught, when in doubt go around is sacrilege here.
Better a dead career than a dead you ...
@@OZBarStories That's very interesting. No doubt the words "go around" should be held in very high regard, anytime they are spoken it should trigger an automatic response from everyone in the cabin to set up for it.
It's easier to explain a failed landing attempt than a crashed plane.
Really wows me with how much research you put into these videos
Me too!
Yet keeping it concise enough to not get boring or too carried away with details.
He just reads official public reports that we can access too...
He is damn thorough and good!!!🙏👍
I love the graphics starting at 10:55 - the appearance of the sunlight reflecting off the windows and fuselage looks so realistic.
The final report was released on 9/11/21, with a summary -
"The pilot in command did not do a Go Around despite the call for it by the co-pilot, who also failed to take over the controls." This was also an issue with Korean Air, in that the co-pilot would never dare to overrule a captain (former military); even if the plane was not being flown according to procedure(s).
Wide body aircrafts 777, 330 and 747 has operated successfully. All what the crew need to do follow the SOP by all means, and since we had 2 similar incidents with the same Company the crew management should be rewritten.!
Thanks for your video and its presented very well.
They should start with just *applying* CRM. Rewriting it isn’t going to help a bit if it’s not being followed.
I remember my younger brother coming to me in a hurry and saying 'you might be interested, there's a plane crash at Kozhikode' as he knew I am interested in everything aviation.
The initial reports were that the plane overran the runway because it was wet and the tyres skid over it.
Thanks for bringing out the real cause. Brilliant video, as usual..
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The most amazing fact that reduced the casualty was that the flight IX 1344 did not blast even though it had been cracked into three, Also the timely interventions of locals daring the chance of explosion. The flight was a part of "Vande Bharat" mission to evacuate Indians abroad in view of Corona virus outbreak.
A fancy name given to flight operation after restricting international flights because of the challenges in screening all arriving passengers efficiently for covid and distributing tickets through official channels only for which the passengers paid for as they'd do for any flight. Pure propaganda.
Few weeks ago saw in the news that the injured/next of kin of people who lost their lives are yet to get full compensation for the accident.
SUE THE CAPTIAN USELESS B
@@farsinroshan3452 look at the aussies before you lose your shit, they left their pregnant reporter to the mercy of the taliban
Airplanes don't "blast" when they breach off the runway like this, man! It wasn't a high speed crash. The plane was probably going less than 80kmph when it broke apart. That is why most people survived the crash too.
Forever mystified why someone would take the risk of ignoring a go around call under these circumstances
Because two go around in one landing would mean that company would cut his incentives etc for extra atf consumption
Get-There-Itis is a real thing. The pilot is stessed out, needs to be on the ground ASAP, doesn't want to redo the aproach AGAIN because it realy is taxing, just want's to get down and be done. This poor decision-making sadly is part of our human nature, can be mitigated to some extend, but one needs to be aware of it all the time. The pilot knew that if he had to divert the company would have to cancel the flight for the next day, so he probably wanted to land at all costs, ignoring the fact that a crash would have the same effect.
@@anantgautam2485 I don't know if that is a thing for Air India, but if it is it needs to be adressed and banned ASAP, because this is an inherent security risk. Just culture needs to be a thing, especially in aviation. Incentives like that are actually hidden punishments for valueing security over profit.
Poor CRM, once 1 of them called Go Around, you go around, no questions asked. The Airlines even made it so you don't have to explain yourself like years ago. No reason they didn't do a go around
@@anantgautam2485 _that company would cut his incentives etc for extra atf consumption_ How many go-arounds of fuel consumption add up to the bill for repairing that plane or buying a new one? Penny-wise, pound-foolish.
Another great video. Would like it if you covered the mid air collision over Delhi. One of the worst disasters over Indian airspace.
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Thanks for the video and very detailed explanation, myself being Indian I wasn't aware of any or much of the facts regarding this crash, very clear detailed and thorough research, I'm really amazed by the level of research you have made on this fact and information about this incident, I can understand how much effort you put behind every video that you post. All the best
I remember how they tried to portray the Captain as a hero, immediately after the crash!
Yes..
Sadly, they still do. The Pilots' association maintains to this day that it wasn't pilot error, but aircraft issues.
That typical Indian behavior. Praise all the staff etc. and deflect the blame on destiny. That way the Govt/private owner's need for compensation is minimized.
@@themalayalipetrolhead3843 The pilots Association does not investigate the cause of the crash.
The official crash report clearly indicates that pilot input and non input as well as pilot decision making during the landing were the cause of this aviation crash
@@PetraKann yes I know. Which is why I remarked that it's sad that the association feels the need to nullify the report.
Of all the missteps on this flight, the most glaring has to be the captain’s ignoring of his first officer’s call for a go around. Both guys in the cockpit are equally responsible for the safety and navigation of the aircraft at that phase of flight - there is no more hierarchy.
Well, not totally equally. And it's India which may have played a role, too.
@@markusloitfelder3469 I can agree that the inferior rank of the first officer may stop him from making the go around call, but in this case it didn't. The Captain is trained AND obligated to make the go around regardless of who makes the call, because the call may be made due to things he's unaware of (maybe first officer noticed landing gear didn't engage, saw an elephant on the runway, or any number of other things).
@@stupidas9466 you didn't understand me correctly: BECAUSE there's still some hierarchy (extent varies) in some cultures in some cases a go around simply won't happen if it's the FO making the call without the Captain understanding for what reason. It's not good.
CAPTIN A HOL
As it would mean so much to you if I were to hit the subscribe button, I was sorely tempted … but I figured that you might have misspoken and did not really want me to unsubscribe by hitting that button again.
Some channels you wish you could subscribe to a million times. This is one of those channels.
@@applesthecat It's easy to subscribe to this channel a million times. It's just that you need to unsubscribe a million minus one times, too!
😅😁😊 same here
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Wow congrats on your upcoming 100k subscribers. Glad to say I found your channel right before you hit 5k. Honestly you’re one of the few channels where I always watch the new videos as soon as they come out
Runescape Stats, I was with this channel, like you from the near beginning, this channel is great 👍. I watch all the Air Crash videos, this channel has the best. He will breeze right past 100k due to viewers like us
Really.. I just noticed.. seems like few month ago (can’t remember when exactly I found this channel) there were only barely 2OК..
And after he said almost 1OOK, I was like wait what.. and looked at the subscription counter 😱
I love your narration. You are so easy to listen to. Your pronunciation is excellent. No loud music or sound effects are necessary as they would only mess up your narrative. Keep up the good work and I will look forward to more of your aircraft incidents.
I think sometimes that the pilots often forget the most important thing and that is that the precious Cargo that they carry, the passengers lives, are often forgotten and the pilots life problems get in the way instead.
I remember when this kid had like 2000 subscribers.... Well done.
Was waiting a lot for this investigation, Thanks!
When i first heard the news of this crash, it reminded me of mangalore crash. Its eerily similar. Even the airline was the same.
Rooting for you to hit that maaaaagic number of 100.000 subscribers! You really deserve it. Great analysis as always. You, Mentour Pilot and Disaster Breakdown are all amazing channels for us who loves anything and everything that has to do with airplanes. Keep on doing what you're doing, I love every second of your videos!
Thanks for the reminder! You just got him one more sub.
Great video as always. If only the captain have listened to his FO and gone around, damn.
Poor CRM by Captain
your output is amazing, thank you for all your work
Great episode. I've never heard of the Black Hole Approach before so I learned something today. Brilliant graphics too! The methodical way you report these accidents enables ignorami like myself to follow and understand.
Thank you.
Just wanna say I greatly appreciate you doing these vids! Its interesting to hear about incidents that werent covered by Mayday or Seconds from Disaster. Its like an extension to the Accident Case Studies that AOPA does sometimes, which I love. Much appreciate!
I am really intrigued by these airline documentaries but some of them are nearly an hour long (I'm looking at you Wonder) ... I don't always have that kind of time, I really appreciate that yours are always a reasonable length
Air India may not be good at lot of things but they always have great Pilots as they usually recruit ex-Air Force Pilots...The Slain Pilot was a retired Air Force Pilot with Immense Experience with a 737...its disappointing to witness the wisest commit mistake...but end of the day we are all Humans... RIP to everyone passed
A mistake is something you do unknowingly, the captain knew what was happening and he chose to ignore it even after the FO called for Go-around. This happened due to arrogance of the power.
More the experience more is the egos and not listening to subordinates
Hey man, I'm a TV youtube viewer so I don't get to comment much but I just wanted to log on and say congratulations about the channel!
I've been subscribed to you since pretty much the beginning and I've loved your channel ever since. Try and grab some more interviews like the one with Jello, the F/A-18 pilot you had on for that one episode back about a year ago. That was awesome!
Keep it up man! Loving this!
Agreed. Also really enjoyed the interview with the British Airlines 747 pilot who saved his flight from disaster after flying through volcanic ash (BA flight 8?).
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@@devhypercoder2522 thanks! 👍
@@commerce-usa YES! That one was good as well.
I can’t appreciate how well you said chennai, cochin and coimbatore
I had a pretty rough day but was pleasantly surprised to see a new video from this channel. Seriously, it made my day a little better. Keep up the good work man, it’s definitely appreciated.
How is learning of a tragedy making your day a little better?
😮 TF man u serious.
@@Truthnowalways exactly
@@Truthnowalways Perspective...theory of relativity... refocusing onto real suffering...distraction...many reasons I can relate to including: It's NOT all about me!
Congrats in advance for 100k subs!😍
I was waiting for IX 1344 video
I land in this airport atleast 8,10 times a year. When he mentioned The air india 425 to Delhi, it got me chills as its my usual flight from Calicut to Delhi
Believe me this will happen again, in that area and in northeast India where air is thin and table top runways are common.
I'm from kerala and I remember this disaster,
Some info on what happened after the crash, the locals heard the sound and they all rushed with their cars to reach there. They carried as much people they could to nearest hospitals, this was during a peak spread of covid in gulf countries, and this flight was one of the rescue flights to bring back indians to their homeland. This was initial time of COVID and everyone was scared but the locals didn't mind and they did the maximum they could, people were piling up in hospitals all accross Calicut to donate blood for the injured.
All the locals participate in the rescue was quarantined and they were given a salue of respect from the Kerala state police.
I have heard of a plane crash at same airport in the past too.
Calicut Airport was asked by Civil Aviation authorities in India to make the necessary changes at the runway before the rainy season. Unfortunately, the implementation was delayed
Do you have a proof of it? Don't peddle fake news!
Thanks for the video mate, the details are amazing.. CCJ is my home airport and it's great view when approaching both runways 28 & 10 above the green valleys carpeted with coconut tree tops! 🌴🙂 Subscribed 👍🏽
Love your videos! Please consider playing cockpit system alert sound effects when telling your stories / it really helps to put us into the moment.
Yeah
these kinds of accidents always paint the captain as an idiot on the top of the hierarchy, I wish captains are more respectful to their first officer
Thank you sir for pronouncing Indian names so precisely...and for such great insights..
I used to visit CCJ once or twice a year and i can say that tabletop runways are very hard to land on. Ignoring a go-around call is a bad thing to do when there are bad weather conditions and certainly worse if there is an airport nearby and it isnt affected by rain.
Awesome video man ... great to see your videos
The centre lights weren't working, the windshield wiper was extremely slow, the captain was hyperglycaemic.All of these led to poor decisions.If you ever know under such high stresses, one can't even hear and that was the exact situation of the Captain.If you know the centre lights of a runway generally begin where the runway starts and this was crucially missing in the beginning of this runway!!
21 lives could have been saved if the captain listened to the first officer.
I wouldn't mind being here for hours. :) Great video as usual, thanks!
Your videos just keep getting better and better! Keep up the good work and good luck to 100k!
Congrats on your 100k
Co-Pilot; "Go around!"
Pilot; "Here, hold my windshield wiper"
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General comment across all your videos. Please state times in local time, not UTC. UTC usually gives a wrong impression of the state of daylight at the incident site. In this incident, local times are UTC + 5:30, so 1:59 pm UTC is actually 7:29pm local time
Yeah good point. But usually I just stick to what the report says cause it makes future research much easier
I appreciate the effort and research you put into these videos. Also, you concentrate on the factors that led to each crash and potential ways to avoid similar accidents. (And crashes that didn't happen but almost did!) Most "full length" investigations spend at least 20 minutes talking about various passengers who died. Details about how wonderful some of them were and how they'll be missed, and what school they were attending, etc. etc. Yes, it's tragic but virtually all of us have lost people we loved (due to accidents, age, disease, whatever). Our own losses are no less important. I'd rather learn succinctly about the accidents themselves, and you do that so well, taking into account weather, schedules, mechanical equipment, pilot pressures, etc. Well done.
Surprising the PIC is veteran pilot ex airforce pilot with a lot of flying hours sad to see many people died.
ARROGANCE
Thanks. Glad that you took efforts to make a video as soon as the reports were out.
Amazing video as usual! Congrats on all the success and 100K! I have been here since 19.5K!
Great job on the video... I like the fact that you put it out so soon after the report came... congo for the coming 100k subs
Great videos! Really useful as case studies for my CRM Trainings!
Can't wait for 100k!
2 significant things which are ommited here.
1. Captain was diagnosed with diabetes and he was talking ayurvedic medicines which are obviously not aviation certified. Prior to flight or during flight he did not eat and that my result in low sugar in the body.
2. Cockpit gradient was higher in Airindia Express and company culture is also an issue here.
I've watched enough of your videos you've earned a sub...hope you hit that 100k soon man. Keep up the good content!
Congratulations on the upcoming milestone! You make excellent videos, thank you!
You're doing amazing, gonna hit 100k any day now!
I was wondering when you'll this video will be out as the report just came a few days back 🙌
As an indian I appreciate the pronounciation because is so good and on point
Sums up...we didn't learn from our mistakes with 812 crash.
Fatalities were luckily lower since the terrain had a drop of only about 20 feet at the runway end and there was no post crash fire. If the drop had been higher , then not many would have been lucky
I think if first officer would have taken the controls in his hands plane might have saved
I remember that day, I was in Kerala, trivandrum when the news of this crash came, I had got to kerala a few weeks back via kochi airport!
Wonderful video. My favourite aviation channel. Many thanks.
Another great video! Thank you for all the work you put in.
Great video as always dude, you explain things so in-depth and so well🙌🏼
Another B737 in 3 pieces after a mishap. Very common so study the seats you select on these planes. I'm guessing they separate around the attachment bulkheads. Some examples Turkish Air crash in Amsterdam, American Air in Kingston, Jamaica, B737 crash San Andres Island, B737 crash Instanbul, 737 crash in Bali, 737 crash in Shenzhen.
A lot harder to Find AB 320s breaking in 3 pieces in similar events.
I have no clue how you only have 97 000 subs the quality is so good :)
To be fair, there was no reason for the runway to change. It was a headwind on RWY 28 the whole time.
Very well explained, if the PM was a little more emphatic with his GO AROUND call, he would have been alive today, sad
The PF (captain) was an IAF pilot with a very senior pilot with lot of experience and the FO being pretty junior perhaps prevented him to be more emphatic I suppose.
@@sunnyjacob7350 yes that is true
In your video, it seems that the crash occurred on the second landing attempt, but according to Wikipedia, the aborted 2 attempts and the crash occurred on the third.
Wikipedia source is trash.
Very nice video; you explained everything so well. Subscribing. Hope you get to 100k. No bad luck.
Since the go around call wasn't acknowledged it's possible the Capt. never heard it. Studies have shown that in high stress moments and high work loads like floating down the runway he was so focused that he never heard it.
Poor visibility+pilot error+poor weather conditions=crash
Amazing technology we have in striving to make aircraft safer with more components,but yet the flip side is that how many more things can go wrong especially trying to troubleshoot when seconds count? The burden of stress grows exponentially . The margin of error especially when flying is extremely small. Because they are so sophisticated, I can understand why they have a checklist, but even that can be overwhelming in certain situations. We were taught in the military you never skip any steps or take shortcuts. It is a recipe for disaster that will come back to haunt you if you survive the ordeal. Kudos to all pilots for what they are trained for and have to endure with so many variables. Not for the faint of heart!
congrats on the 100K subs.
I wonder why Approach Control is not also able to command go-arounds. Perhaps an airport knows better if a plane is stable as it approaches touch down because who else would know better?
Thanks a lot for making this video.
I would say with this length, the airport must be able to take in wide-bodie jets. Maybe, they can deviate from the standards, and enforce stricter rules in given types of weather, i.e. storms, wet runway at dark, crosswinds, etc.
Air india used to operate 747 from calicut till runway recarpeting works began in 2014. From 2019 Saudia used to operate with A330 0r 777's . But after the crash DGCA banned the operation of wide bodied aircrafts in calicut airport
They need more Illumination around the airport and proximity sensors in the Wheels itself. It rains heavily there. But with few more effective solutions for visibility and landing assistance, it seems like the airport can handle Jumbo jets.
Why would the captain be so focused on making the next flight? If that flight ends up cancelled because of a difficult landing, so what? At least people are safe.
If you don't finish the one in progress safely you won't get another flight.
Was eagerly waiting for this video! Has the final report been published to the public (pdf)? I couldn't find it.
Yeah it’s out it’s available on the AAIB website
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation can i have the link to the page? I couldn't find it.
Here you go aaib.gov.in/Reports/2020/accident/Final%20Report%20AXH.pdf
Yes, it’s published, 267 pages
@@mkhathi i can't find it. Can you share me the link, working one?
You deserve 100k+. This is my favorite channel on UA-cam, including my own. 😬
could you share the link to the report
That silver Play button is so close, it's probably already on a courier truck waiting to be dispatched. :)
Edit: Damn... 21 fatalities from an overshoot. Terrible outcome.
So close!
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation we'll get you there mate. Thanks for the vids. Share them around guys!
The plane fell over a 100ft into a ditch and then plunged a wall at 70knots.
You missed the part where "ego" of the captain did add to the situation. He was a veteran pilot for Indian army and this might be one of the reasons why first officer's request for go-around has not been acknowledged.
and cause he IS A PIS POOR PILOT
Had to hit that sub button for you. Been enjoying your work for a while you’ve definitely earned it.
Feeling good to know wht really happened in an accident happened in own district,, thanks 😊
People who came to pick up their loved ones were the first at the scene' helping getting people to hospitals
No more wide bodied planes at that airport seems to me the way to go, another excellent episode Sir!!!🙏😪
This was a 737
Correction, flight 812 is not Air India, but air India express. They both are very different. Budget vs national carrier.