Eggman's Voice Actor Drama Is Insane...
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- So Eggman's voice actor, Mike Pollock, got into some trouble and we don't know if he'll be in the next mainline game or project. He hosted a twitter space to talk with fans, which I clipped and included here.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro/Overview
03:29 Mike's Solo Explanation
07:30 I Call In
09:46 Caller 2
13:19 Caller 3
16:58 Caller 4
20:25 SUPER INSANE PART
25:24 Final 2 Callers (Best One)
28:39 Where it picks up - Ігри
Mike actually made an official response
On Friday, the 3rd of May, 2024, I, a lifelong secular Jew, received an unsolicited music video from my friend Heshy Walfish, via another friend, known professionally as Country Yossi, both fellow Jews, who asked me to share it to boost its exposure. Both gentlemen are well known among the local religious Jewish community for their amusing and educational songs and song parodies, as well as a call-in radio quiz show. I tend toward the secular, less religious side of things, but when I stumbled upon the show years ago, it made me laugh, so I got permission to turn it into a public podcast in its final years. Although largely retired, when the muse strikes them to write a parody, they do (I used to write song parodies professionally, and I sometimes do again, too). This video was a lyrical adaptation of "Empty Chairs at Empty Tables," from the musical Les Misérables, which tells of drinking buddies who no longer gather at a tavern because they became casualties of war. With a little re-working, Heshy turned it into a plea for the safe return of the Israeli Hostages, accompanied by understandably graphic images of the after-effects of the ongoing war.
While I usually shy away from hot-button political issues on X, formerly known as Twitter, it happened that at the recently completed Passover holiday, which tells the story of ancient Jews exiting slavery in Egypt, many families adapted the traditional rituals and readings to honor the modern day hostages. Add to that the current protests on college campuses, including my son's where protesters clashed with Jewish students, the song moved me to lift my silence and post it on social media, along with a brief message of support, and accompanying hashtag and emojis. I realized this was risky, but I naïvely hoped that cooler heads would prevail for a largely humanitarian endeavor. Although many people have observed that the initial message could have been construed as fairly innocuous to a large number of readers, you can guess what happened next.
Within seconds, replies of "Free Palestine" were coming fast and furious. And when the going gets tough, I get snarky, because comedy is my first line of defense. Always has been. My knee-jerk reaction (which I double-standardly chastise others for, I now recognize in hindsight) was to double-down on being Jewish, since I had read articles by various Jewish support organizations about the underlying antisemitism of some slogans associated with the movement, although the bulk of the posts to which I replied did not overtly share anti-semitic statements. I'm sorry I claimed that they did. At that moment of a deluge of replies, I wasn't able to articulate my support for the innocent people rather than the warring governments. If I had a do-over, I'd do better. But now there is this statement, instead.
Let me go on the record and state that most of my replies were the wrong choice here. My initial responses, wielding self-deprecating ethnic stereotypes and references to ritual circumcision, sounded better in my head than they looked on the screen. They provided ample hater-fodder and led many to the erroneous notion that I was hacked. I also engaged in some uncalled-for personal attacks. I'm sorry I didn't choose more considerate words, and take things seriously, and I wish I could dispose of those via a time machine, because that does not accurately reflect my feelings, nor the gravity of the matter. I should have definitely handled that better. I'm extremely sorry I did not.
Then came the inevitable questions about my thoughts on every aspect of the current conflict, and in the heat of the moments of trying to respond to everyone simultaneously, I couldn't think those answers through properly. Now, with a blank document in front of me and the luxury of time, I can. We started to address these in the X Space I hosted, but my X app started to crash, likely because my phone was overdue for a reboot, so I gave up at 12:30 am, planning to go to bed and re-address things in the morning. Instead I'm responding here rather than in another Space so I can give the issues some proper thought:
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Zionist in the political sense of the term, often associated with colonialism and genocide. I'm against that. I can endorse the traditional sense of the word, which is Jews having a homeland to call their own. Every group, including Palestinians, should have some kind of safe haven, but I don't know how to solve that problem with the current feuding that's continuing, or where those safe spaces can be. That's why neither entity involved has asked me for ideas. For that they need an expert.
As for the conflict throughout history, including the current war, I don't have any thoughts, suggestions or any support for either government involved. Again, that's why they never call me. You shouldn't be surprised if a Jew is at least slightly biased towards Israel, since that's where all our Biblical history took place, and that bias was reflected in me sharing the hostage-supporting song I did, but rest assured, as for the overall conflict, my actual concern extends to the Palestinian civilians, in equal measure, as well. I don't support either side's violence and killing. All the civilians (I have cousins in Israel) on both sides should live safely and not know from fear. All hostages should come home, sooner rather than later. I'm sorry I didn't mention the Palestinian prisoners in a follow-up post initially, so I'm correcting that error by mentioning them here. The folks in charge should keep those prisoner/hostage swaps going so more people get released.
The two sides should put down their weapons, negotiate peacefully and figure out some resolution to their disagreements so that Israelis and Palestinians alike can live freely and equally. Not specifying that earlier was insensitive to my Palestinian supporters, and all the innocents in Palestine, and I’m sorry I screwed that up. Now I’ll know better.
I'll repeat, I don't know what that resolution might be. I'm not a military commander. But I hope there are Foreign Relations experts who can fix this situation.
And while we're making statements, despite claims to the contrary, I can confirm my support for all human rights, including, but not limited to, race, religion, gender, or nationality. Everyone should have the right to exist. If anyone questions that, you can refer them back here, and to my previous online debunking.
As for any fallout with work, there's been some already. I hope there's some room for tolerance somewhere in the audience.
We'll see what my future on Social Media can be, but as of now, I think I've said enough.
Further edits to this screed may be made, as necessary.
I ain't reading all that
@@noorsamazingchannel999no worries, I read it. Honestly…Fair response, not bad Mike
@@noorsamazingchannel999illiterate and proud 🗣🗣
I hope he'll continue to voice eggman.
Right, now I don't need to watch the video because he is self-aware and reflective, as one should. Wonderful response, I'm glad he took action.
Just don’t use Twitter. I promise you, people who use Twitter are NOT happy and have no peace in their hearts whatsoever
Yeah, twitter is just filled with extremists now , there's no point talking to anyone there
Big true
That can be applied for ppl who also don't use Twitter either..... what was even the point of this comment.
@@nes96 You must be depressed, because you’re implying that just there aren’t any happy people anywhere period
@@diegopansini3152 I get that you don't want Mike to have said anything controversial ( I really hope he didn't) but I don't get how he's depressed? He said that whatever Mike tweeted can be applied to anywhere, he said similar things on other socials too.
The highlight is when Shadow the hedgehog went onto the live
that was so bad
@@lmproductions6075so bad its good like it was so wild😭
Since you were so kind to release me, my master... I shall grant you one wish. A RATIO!
@@ois3671 ONG
@lmproductions6075 I do hope he becomes a voice actor someday, he deserves it the mad man😂
I got rid of Twitter permanently, cause when I had a different opinion on them the rest of the Sonic Fanbase. They went rabid and attacked me pretty much. I'm not joking.
I swear
You are a walking W and can live with your head held high without Twitter in your life
Yeah... Twitter can be quite the hellhole sometimes.
I just look at sonic twitter my personal politics would have them put my head on a pike
That's the Sonic fanbase for you 💀
Honestly, eggman has guts to host an almost 2 hour live “talk show” to discuss this. I was there, his connection did drop as Twitter notified us listeners but did he switch on airplane mode? We will never know 😂
IMO there was nothing wrong with his initial statement,no one wants Israeli hostages to be killed,he was just showing basic human decency,he doesn’t deserve any of the shit people are giving him.
But he did say some pretty messed up stuff regarding the Palestinian hostage,joked about free Palestine phrase and basically acted little transphobic to a user.
@@gabrielcaseira9497 what i think is hes hiding more of his bizzare opinions and hesitates to share them
He is the Eggman, he's got the master plan. :D
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 I don’t think his community is ready for those other bizarre opinions 😂
Sonic says: Free Palestine
Having an opinion is SO INSANE!
yeah could you believe it ?
having an opinion on whether or not a genocide is good or bad probably isn't a good opinion.
@@zaail3norsumidk Just define genocide in a convenient way to demonize whoever you wish to demonize
@@VGLounge i was saying being pro-isreal is a bad thing objectively and from what i heard mike pollock is pro isreal but im not sure
@@zaail3norsumidk If you live life as black and white, you will always be wrong to some extent. Being pro-Israel is not objectively wrong, as there is a valid point to ending the force of Hamas that's been attacking them for years and has proven they only wish to cause as much damage to both Israelis and Palestinians alike. It is valid to critique their methods, but "freeing Gaza" from Israels border protections will undeniably lead to more massacres of Israelis. Even if you don't approve of Israels methods this statement is undeniably true.
25:24 Uh, SEGA has made tons of non-kid friendly games, SEGA is NOT for kids.
Literally
What games? If you're talking about old Sega yeah that makes sense if you're talking about modern Sega what games exactly
@@battman505 Yakuza
@@jordandillardthememeboi I bet you haven't played modern sega games with a statement like that
@@jordandillardthememeboi phantasy star online 2 new genesis the mmo?
I dont get this outrage. Hes jewish, no body on either side wants the conflict. He just said he wants captives freed, HOW IS THAT BAD?! How did they all just turn tail and start thinking all jewish people are evil now? Yet theyll still call people Nazis?
Political and historical ignorance on the normies' part taken advantage of by both the far-right and the far-left who equally despise the Jewish, and especially, the Israelis over them having survived the Holocaust.
I'm part-arab and you wouldn't believe the genocidal shit I conned some unassuming people to say just by feeding into their twitter delusions lol
I agree with you im muslim myself and I don’t have hatred towards jews because they don’t control the military or the government so its not their fault but if your are jewish or not you gotta say the truth israel is doing the same thing that hitler did to the jews no one should approve what they are doing from what i have seen i only see Israeli soldiers killing children and innocent civilians i didnt see any Palestinian military do that and if that happened please show me proof and i heard some Palestinian soldiers killed Israeli civilians idk if thats true but if they did that its totally unacceptable and should be punished but you dont punish a soldier by killing a civilian its like if you killed my father im gonna kill yours its unfair because your father is innocent its the same thing here
I don’t think this video even needed to be made/exist and I don’t watch this channel.
Because when people said “free Palestine” he was joking about it
yeah,and he clarified that he wants hostages from BOTH sides free,the reason he mentioned only the jews is because he is jewish himself and he his on a heavily jewish bubble
It’s disappointing how people overreact and complain so much about Mike supporting his own people, Ik no one else would like it if it was the other way around
It was not that Mike was supporting his own people (although there are definitely some people who have a problem with that), it was that Mike, by supporting his people, completely played down the hostages Israel took for laughs. He was "snarky" as he describes, but the problem is his snarkiness seriously downplayed the suffering of Palestinian people. That's the problem the majority has with his statements.
Wait mike’s Jewish?
@@user-yb8jb3tb5s he confirmed it in the live, him and his family
@@alias_crouton2671 Yeah
I agree. @@alias_crouton2671
Didn't think I'd say something like this, but I'm on the EGGMAN's side.
Loser
Most of these callers were like:”We respect your opinion, and you should be able to voice your opinion. But because you have a huge audience and I don’t agree with your opinion…like stop talking about the issue dawg.”
Like they weren’t expressly saying that but that’s essentially what this convo was.
So it's just the Internet Activists who also happens to be Sonic fans getting mad? Hopefully this Eggman VA are able to fend them off.
Mike expressing his opinion is completely within his right to do so. Most of the questions for him were from goofy kids anyway. I'm personally waiting for the war over there to end. I hope the world goes back to normal soon. As for his Eggman voice in Sonic, I hope he doesn't get fired over it. He really should be careful about his words, but at the same time i don't think he said anything particularly offensive. He expressed he was political and that he was Jewish so me not being Jewish I don't really have any say so other than i just want people to be free and not killing each other. Same goes for what's going on in Ukraine and Russia. Kind of strange that we talk about it on a Sonic channel, not like it's gonna convince any politicians. It'll just end up as clickbait. If he were on the news, he might be able to reach more people. It's kind of like the protests on college campuses that happened a few days ago. It didn't really solve anything. Again I really hope things get better for everyone's sake.
Fair for me it was just how he responded pretty much calling people jew haters when they were simply expressing concerns
(Im not gonna say all werent but some replies he just was being tok snarcky about)
I hope he doesnt get fired either but still very disappointed by how everyone reacted
I really dislike that you are downplaying the important of protest and activism.
@@CBMX_GAMING you are a fool
@@CBMX_GAMING never said anything like that, now you're just putting words in mouths lol
@@christoffcreations1389You gotta say you said that or else they’ll put something else in your mouth
TBH, the gameplay is way more interesting than this unnecessary drama about a man with a different perspective on life.
A Jewish guy cares about fellow Jews being kept hostage. IMAGINE MY SHOCK.
FR this infinity engine gameplay is lit
The rollin rascle gameplay went pretty hard ngl
holy brainrot
What is the game?
The end of that isn’t a “gotcha” moment at all. He ALREADY stated his opinion prior to cutting out. Whether he left intentionally or not can’t really be known but he did already say his opinion.
Twitter users who are 20 or below will only listen to one side and will cancel anyone who has an opinion.
Also, real immature to those who mess with Mike. “Very professional”
It’s not “very professional” of Mike to be entertaining debates with people who are likely minors. I love Mike’s work, but it’s weird.
Well considering one side supports genocide and the other side is against genocide, it's fair to hate the side that supports genocide.
Are you willing to clarify which is which?@@BickyNuckley
*Me who has had Twitter for majority of middle to high school years, currently an adult but is still a teen, who has always tries to learn about all sides of the story regardless of internet people or real people.* Guess I have to cancel Mike now, instead of trying to figure out the whole story.
@@charleswolfe8896 Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people. Not to mention Zionism itself was predicated on the ethnic cleansing of indigenous people no matter where they chose to settle.
It's possible Mike was sick of stupid questions and wanted to speak his mind because he never gets to in interviews that primarily revolve around Sonic. Likewise a Sonic interview isn't the place to get political. -.-'
it’s just so silly he felt the need
Yeah, neither should immature pro Palestine supporters with limited knowledge should get political when they're in their own bubbles.
This whole situation is a stain on the community in my opinion. He only posted a song calling for the Israeli hostages to be returned. The community gave him a horrible response for no reason and he got understandably defensive (given he's a Jew and lost family on Oct. 7).
He gave a bad response, but the original tweet is the least offensive Ireal-palestine tweet of all time. The reaction was ridiculous.
Edit: My god Jaden, in the 'SUPER INSANE PART' he literally says, "Folks who have become collateral damage in a conflict, they didn't ask to be hostages. Maybe they should be let go. Same for the Palestinian hostages, don't know them haven't seen their video. But, hostages in any conflict didn't ask to be hostages." That clip starts at 23:30, IN YOUR SUPER INSANE PART. Take your politically blinding glasses off... we've all been there before
This is the same fandom that went rabid when the Knuckles show made a joke about Knuckles being almost Jew because his kind was persecuted. Twitter Sonic are crazy and not worth your time.
Seriously. Its wild that Jaden has such a problem with it evem labeling him "insane" for saying people should be free.
@@mamodokod4613 he did make the comment saying it was largely clickbait cuz you know BAG.
I think the main issue in the community is that , the loud part of it are far left extremists. Those are the one not understanding that Hamas attack took years of evolution and peace to the ground. Those are the one that don't understand that we NEED a two states solution, and that having one of the people erased from the map is asking for a genocide. Those are the people that doesn't understand that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that the Palestinians living in Gaza are suffering because of them. And those are the people that doesn't understand that if the hostages were released, we might be closer to a cess-fire. It's so important in those complicated time to not fall in hate, to keep the discussion alive , and to be careful with the fact that we see.
@@RaiginAnimator normally I don’t care about clickbait, but all over Twitter there are people calling for him to be fired and removed from the series. Clickbaiting this against him only makes that worse
Leave the man alone he has the right to speak his own mind period.
The fact that Emzberry got a bit of this action too in instagram
hope they dont get rid of him for such a nothing burger, he doesnt need to explain shit to these spoiled brats.
Right-o, that's how I feel about anyone who seriously uses Twitter. (I use Twitter nonconsequecially, just for when I'm bored really.)
That girl at the end didn’t own him at all. She just talked down to him. But she didn’t own him. Lol Long live the eggman empire
Long live the eggman empire and Big Gete star
Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if she was part of the cancel culture to bait him. Then again her statement made me want to claw my eyes out.
31:22 Are you talking about that part? because if so, what's wrong with her argument? in fact, she was very clear and respectful
I pray Mike Pollock and his role for Eggman will be okay
I mean, whatever repercussions he faces, he did it to himself. Why is he even entertaining Twitter drama with fans?
why?
Nah i highly doubt this isn't going to get him at least a warning, you dont get into these controversies and get away smoothly, being wrong or not
@@yall_girl_eve what does that mean?
@@SuperbitGamer-db6iw Bro's heading for the SEGA-branded chopping block.
Am I missing something? Mike said just because he was Jewish and wanted the Israelis freed doesn’t mean that he doesn’t want the Palestinians freed to. I would’ve chose a different way to respond to some comments. Other than that what’s the problem?
I like this channel, but I'm not watching this whole thing. I'm outrage machined out after all the bullcrap about Stellar Blade and the campus protests and stuff being freaking everywhere every day for the last several weeks. But what from what I'm gathering, the problem is people chronically on social media are idiots. Half of them are sheep that have no idea what's going on and are outraged because a politician told them to be (cough Tlaib cough) or because being outraged over this is the current fad. This is basically cancel culture out of control
@@tehlaziness”But from what I’m gathering, the problem is people chronically on social media are idiots”
Beautiful quote~
@@tehlazinessGET BACK ON THE RAGEPILL!!!! HULK OUT!!!!
@@wariowahwah580 (calmly sips some tea) Nah, I'm good :P
I am out of the loop but I heard say he called people who support Palestine anti-seminist. I hope that's not true, but I'm unsure. I also saw some Jewish people reply negatively.
People conflating Mike with his character eggman was so cringe. He plays like 100 different characters. Whole twitter space was an autistic mess.
hey, high functioning autistic here to confirm that you are entirely correct.
welcome to the sonic fandom
Thing is, that's the character he's most known for, as its a prominent one, and its one he's been voicing for quite a long time now.
@@firebrony101 Mike said he was a “custodian of the character” when kids wanted him to make a pee joke. but he decided to dive into one of the complex and messy political issues
I have no issue with Mike. The fans need to piss off.
He is entitled to his beliefs, doesn't affect the rest of us, what he believes
It's not even just Sonic fans. It's Twitter Critters bro.
@@xthewhitewolf "Twitter Critters" is the most accurate and creative name for those low lives
god forbid a person has an opinion
Yeah, I mean what's the worst that could happen by letting someone share their opinion? It's not like some hypothetical aspiring painter who didn't get accepted to art school is going to cause death on an unmatched scale just by sharing his opinion on the Jewish people... Oh wait.
Crazy how it's never "just an opinion" when it's something you don't like. :P
*Man... Glad I never had a Twitter account* 😅
Yeah, you're very lucky. I got a beat down from the Sonic Fanbase on there!
I wanna high five you. Same.
Glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t have Twitter…
Super lucky bro
I do and it’s hell. I want to leave it but it’s an addiction.
The circumsized tweet is 2 years old 💀💀💀 that was October of 2022. Why are people even bringing that up as a point for this new (and completely unnecessary) drama. Do people just hop on bandwagons with no context or research and can't even look closely enough to see the date of the post and see it has nothing to do with the current issue? Also sega itself is not for kids. People forget Yakuza exists for example. They make games of all age ratings. So that argument makes no sense
Honestly, people who say "Minors watch/play the stuff you are known for, so you can't talk about adult topics" are brain dead idiots
Sonic fans when someone expresses an opinion different from theirs. 🤯🤯🤯😡
Mike was very professional here and I find it very admirable that he took the time to speak one on one with some many people. The cringey children, the snowflakes, and the very few people who actually had genuine conversation with him about the topic at hand.
it’s idiotic he felt the need to speak on the issue in this context
@@jestawellIn what context? He's speaking on the matter at hand face on. No script, no notes, just speaking his mind, and letting people speak theirs.
he quit as soon as someone was actually articulate enough to discuss palestine seriously lol
@@paws9248 Yeah, but she was only speaking on one specific point Mike was making, that being why speaking on the Palestinians were "controversial". Which, technically would be since that's not what he wanted to actually get into, but I digress. Plus, there's no evidence to my knowledge that he actually "quit". He said it broke, and it wouldn't be fair to not give him the benefit of the doubt. Of course, she also commented on other things such as what Sega would think of his other comments in relation to his main one, but she mainly focused on the Palestinian topic he brought up.
@@mayhemmonkeylol to the sonic community
I'm guessing there's context missing here because i don't see what he did wrong at all, what is presented in this video just makes me shrug.
Apparently based on a comment, he got too political on a Sonic interview, take it with a grain of salt what I just said I'm not sure if that is exactly what happened
he's a over opinonated boomer joo
it’s just funny because it all sonic based
@@Jade-ou8gz I was there when the live happend he responded very rudely to people and said some pretty transphobic stuff to a user aswell.
He also referred to the “palestian hostage” as something “political” like there was a difference between Israeli and Palestinians hostages,when in the end they BOTH need saving.
@@gabrielcaseira9497 Yep. He also ended the live the second someone was bringing this point up and a few other good points as well lol
Yall are starting MORE drama? Seriously? Stop
Fr I'm just tired of it 😒
@@comadoof184Tell that to the hostages. Calling the death of innocents "drama" is the most dystopian thing I've ever seen.
I think He meant mike suddendly talking about it is drama, not the war itself. @@HOTD108_
I guess deaths of civilians men women and children is just another "drama" to you like it's just another Tuesday.
Calling this drama is crazy
is there anything wrong with this??? he's expressing his opinion and if it doesn't line up with yours than he's an evil man???
Pretty much the Israel/Palestine confilct.
Exactly my dude! Everyone wants to just fight for stupid crap. He's expressing his opinions and yet gets criticized
His only fault was his replies. However, he did apologise for them. People hear what they want to hear, and its why they said he was hacked because he had a different opinion to a lot of others
Have you been in a coma since 2016?!
@@magical_pixie_horse7346I wish this was all a dream and I woke up in 2016 tbh
Freedom of speech. Leave the guy alone.
Freedom of speech also means people can vocally disagree with him, especially when it is about real current events.
@@nedcool2016 He has every right to defend his religion and fellow humans. He’s not “the real Eggman” people, he’s a real person, and yes… that means he has things he believes in and so on.
Freedom of speech, let people reply.
@@JabariMore freedom of speech, I wouldn’t of commented if I didn’t want people to reply. I’m just saying back off the guy, he wants to express his opinion about something that’s personal to him and you want to make a video making it out like he’s doing something bad. Leave the guy alone. If you want to comment feel free idc XD
You think you can disguise your videos cos there’s a talking raccoon. It don’t suit this style of video, this is just gossip.
The sonic movies coming out… talk about that for crying out loud.
freedom of speech means protection from getting arrested for your speech, it doesn't mean people can't make youtube videos about your speech lol
For everyone saying "this means nothing" actually are not at all educated on the situation. As a well known public figure who commonly interacts with a huge community which consist of peoeple who are unarware of the situtation unfolding, Mike Pollock shouldn't have done this. As soon as you talk about anything related to the genocide currently occuring in gaza Where over 30,000 palestinians have been blown up, half of which were children, you open the floodgates to a very heavy and serious topic. "Free the the hostages" is certainly not a wrong thing to say but there is plenty of context that peoeple are missing. Including all the palestinian hostages that they want to bargain for. Or the fact that Israel in it's brutality has killed many of their own hostages by constantly bombing the area. There are protests in Israel against the government right now because of this.
Don't worry, it'll only get worse when China invades Taiwan and you have to then double down and support people who tell you that the Taiwanese people are Chinese counter-Revolutionaries who were defectors and traitors and are rightfully deserved to be under Chinas unification, one-Nation goal. Like a certain popular Twitch streamer who was rooting for Russia to enter into Ukraine to get rid of pesky Nazi-affiliates and bring in people who feel 'more Russian than Ukranian.'
But people just aren't educated the right way.
NGL, Mike came across as "I'm Jewish, so I only give a shit about Jewish people.". Pretty sure that's not how humanitarianism works.
a lot of minority groups do that, that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea but it well accepted with other groups
no, he said "im in the jewish community so i only know about jewish affairs and i dont want to speak ignorantly on other cultures' affairs". it was pretty black and white.
Yeah that's pretty much exactly what he said
I'm very surprised to see the comments of this video of all places to be the most rational and normal discussion of the issue at hand I've seen thus far.
Truly, people are like: "Seriously? The man just said 'free the hostages' and that got you acting up?"
People on Twitter are making gas jokes on jews and being praised with no backlash, that is crazy
@@guliverjham8148
>people are being praised for making gassing jokes!
no?? no the fuck they aren't????
This is why I stopped using Twitter/X. People there get mad over anything. You can't give an opinion or exist without getting backlash or doxxed.
I was right there with you watching all this stuff go down, crazy stuff.
So whats the issue? How did he "go insane"?
For him having a different opinion on shit and people trying to cancel him
Jaden has an oposing view and instantly labeled anyone and everyone with an oposing view as "insane". Which is wild cuz he literally said "all hostages on both sides should be freed".
@@mamodokod4613 He also said all Palestine supporters are anti-seminist
Or I guess not maybe I'm just an idiot
@@noahbanana7526 That's not what he said at all. He literally said he's fine with people supporting either side. What he said was the way people are using "Free Palestine" sounds antisemitic which I honestly get, because some people do use it that way. It's just like people using Black Lives Matter as a justification to burn down businesses and riot. Does that mean all BLM supporters are like that? No, but there is a vocal minority. Same case here.
@@noahbanana7526 he said "some" not "all", you clearly didn't watch the video
If there's something that I've learned while watching stupidity that was TSSZ News demise back in 2020, is that Sonic fans should just shut up about politics if it has nothing to do with the franchise. And no, Sonictubers like Jaden here are no exception.
Didnt know the eggman voice actor was such a swell guy
This is Eggman we're talking about. Of course he's going to take these questions as a insult to his intelligence.
After listening to the audio, he says nothing about the genocide, while yes may be because it’s purely to improve his argument, but his topic is purely on the Israeli hostages which yes, should be released. People hearing that and assuming that he’s all for the genocide is a crazy leap of logic, imo. He might be a little narrow sighted for only looking at the Jewish side of the argument but also it makes sense considering he is Jewish
There is no genocide. It's war, as a response to the worst massacare on Jews since the holocaust with the specific goal of bringing down Hamas and beinging back the hostages, the goal isn't to kill all the Palestinians, aka, not a genocide. War is ugly, people die. But genocide is a word that has a very specific mea ing and using it to describe this war is disingenuous and is a blood libel.
28:59 This could have been a good call if she didn't word vomit everything. It would have been good to hear a response for each point. People overhyped this section
this drama was insane. i was there too.
Nuance is a thing
He doesn't really deserve to be hated for some opinion on the internet.
These fans are so immature that I wouldn’t be surprised if their questions were enough for him to go 🙂🤦🏼♂️😤😜🤪
I think everything said here by both Mike and the fans is reasonable, with the exception of freeing Palestine being anti-semitism. The only issue I took with the statements was Mike admitting to not being well informed of the situation, stating people who aren't well informed SHOULDN'T be giving such strong opinions, but then proceeding to do so himself. All it takes would've been to acknowledge he's batting way out of his league, apologize for touching a subject that's so sensitive with such insensitivity, and return to staying in his lane.
I remember a video of the Sonic Boom cast doing a fan Q&A panel at (I think) a gaming convention. I remember feeling like some of Mr. Pollock's answers had an unnecessarily dry or snarky tone to them, considering most of the fans asking questions seemed to be teens or children. I think someone asked the cast something like "What would your respective character think of their Mario counterparts?" And Pollock seemed uncomfortable and didn't want to "put words in his character's mouth because that's the writer's job(s)." It now seems so strange to me that he seemed so afraid to make up a non-consequential opinion for Eggman about Bowser, but he seems to have no issue with everything he's shared on this real-world topic.
Is this about what he did to the moon?
If only.
@@blackheartaesthetic4432 Lol 'if only'.
@@guliverjham8148Lmao "Lol 'if only'".
I know absolutely nothing about the Palestine war, I just see everyone talking about it online. I’m so confused but I just hope everyone is okay and it ends soon.
Stuff like this I never opened a Twitter account.
This generation needs to grow up.
Mike is great for his attitude and all here. He didn't do nothing wrong leave him be
Well, that was a waste of time.
Just Twitter Idiocy
I personally believe that everyone has a right to their own political opinions. I know that’s an incredibly controversial statement for Twitter/X to understand.
Another overly reactionary Sonic Show video where the voice actor of Eggman said “war bad. End war” and that’s a bad thing apparently. Cool.
Its honestly wild to me how jaden/the sonic show, is going so rabid over this as well, genuinely makes me dislike him if he has a problem with mike saying "there should be no hostages".
@@mamodokod4613yeah, this and all the clickbait led me to unsubsbing lol. Bro fell off
Yeah, I’m about to unsub, he’s just making Mike look like a bad person. OVER A FREAKING OPINION! I stand with Mike.
It's not hard to be against genocide. It's actually one of the easiest positions to ever take. Saying you don't care about Palestinian hostages (over 8,000 held without trial, 300 of which are children) in Israeli prisons and subjected to torture and rape, and only care about the Israeli hostages is messed up. The israeli hostages suffer because Israel is starving the entire population in the Gaza Strip and bombing almost every single house. You can say "war bad" but it's incredibly ignorant to want Palestinians to not fight when they're the ones being constantly slaughtered and oppressed by Israel. Israel shouldn't even be there, it's not their land. Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948 by militant Zionists who slaughtered thousands of them.
@@BickyNuckleyMike said several times on the video that he wants both sides to free, that was just not present in his initial post but he corrected himself and cleared that up
We live in a time where calling for innocent hostages to be returned home can be considered offensive... 🤦♂🤡
israel certainly doesnt care about them
I didn't even know what happened to Mike. I hope this will get better soon.
Less of that and more of actual Sonic news, thanks.
Nobody is going to bring up the deem bristow joke? That wasn't called for
True, but edgy humor is also a thing. It doesn't really mean he was genuinely trying to be disrespectful.
@@lefeeshchopped8286 i’m sure this man doesnt appreciate edgey humor directed at him, so he shouldn’t use it
@@jestawell Usually if you use edgy humor, you can take edgy humor. I should know.
@@lefeeshchopped8286 he was calling people anti-semitic for saying free palestine, he was the one getting offended
I don’t know if he was just being sarcastic to the person bringing him up, and not done in a way to disrespect the former voice actor.
I've never heard Mike's actual voice you can literally hear the eggman-ness in his voice
Ayy I saw you in the Twitter space!
This is actually pissing me off now.
The girl making the “good points” says she doesn’t see why there’s an issue acknowledging Palestinian hostages. (There’s no issue. He acknowledged Jew hostages and everyone took issue with THAT)
She admits he acknowledges them in this very call… Self contradiction.
Then she said he made distasteful hostage jokes. Younger individuals were making memes when they actually thought WW3 was about to start in 2020. Literally any criticism got a response and a fake ass excuse that they just joke about shit to cope with the situation. Total BS.
He doesn’t have to worry about SEGA’s image. He didn’t say anything that jeopardizes it.
If you’re concerned about his position at SEGA because people might find the inoffensive thing he said as offensive, it’s high time we started backing the “people get offended and entitled too easily these days” sentiment a little harder mayhaps.
Yeah, that guy should divorce, he is in the hands of a real manipulator.
Mike was very professional and is entitled to his opinion.
Mike is entitled to his opinion, he was not professional lol
He had a surgery
very unprofessional and such a bizarre place to try and have the conversation
im confused all i heard was mike say he wanted all hostages to return home. yes he specified jews specifically only because he relates to them more but hes not spoke out about wanting one group of people free and the others to suffer so what gives? why has everyone suddenly started attacking him?
he kept on calling people saying “free palestine” as anti-semitic, and he kept talking about his circumcised penis
This is Ryan Drummond drama all over again, but he recovered.
what happened? missed that one
@@jestawell I hope this is the right drama they're talking about, otherwise sorry about the misinformation.
A while ago, (probably a year or so, give or take I can't remember when). There was drama about Ryan Drummond and EmuEmi (A Sonictuber most famously known for her Sonic Radio Drama "Sonic R"), they uh decided to have some adult fun, if ya know, ya know.
Now here is where I get confused myself, and I recommend you to watch videos about this drama, since I didn't want to watch any cuz' I don't need anymore drama in my life. Apparently, Ryan Drummond used his Sonic voice while they were having fun or something weird like that and EmuEmi has been exposed as a bad person amongst other things.
So, I apologise for anything I get wrong, and hope this clears up some things.
@@STARVAs132 thanks
@@STARVAs132 i checked that out and it seems like very private stuff about their personal lives and a man’s marriage and cheating and it’s all very complicated. this Eggman thing is very different because Mike decided to literally hold his own public forum on the topic, and kept on talking about his personal life and his son and his son’s college. and it’s a rare case where fans are not diving into the private lives of celebrities, but instead celebrity decided to espouse his own opinions and feelings on a very hot button topics in a very sloppy manner and open himself up to this kind of drama/scrutiny to an already very rabid fanbase
@@jestawell meh, i don't get what's the fun in starting drama. i think the only reason should be if that person is actually bad. this is why I'm very uninformed neither interested in this or that drama. but oh well, welcome to the internet.
Honestly seeing Jaden get so upset that Mike said "war bad end war, there shouldnt be hostages" makes me concerned. Thats wild he has such a problem with this. Even titling this video "hes gone INSANE" For an extemely milqtoast post like "free hostages"
He’s a clickbaiter, that why I just unsubscribed from him. He made this title and video for views and is making Mike look like a bad person.
Exactly, Mike just wants peace!
@@nightbearsnebula Exactly, and I respect and support him for it
Maybe Jaden likes war. He likes little “wars” over Sonic stuff, reasonably he’d like the culture war
@@wariowahwah580 I unsubscribed from him, because at this point, he’s just click baiting.
Oh my god every time, someone just keeps saying oh but you didnt say it about all the hostages meanwhile constantly throughout this entire witch hunt of a conversation he says he wants all people freed
It's exactly the same notion as "Black Lives Matter" vs "All Lives Matter". The one side only cares about the radicalization of their agenda, the other side just wants everyone to be treated well.
Why can't you just edit one comment? You've done so many separate comments.
@@noahbanana7526bro it’s the internet, are you the comment police? they can make more than one comment, there’s no limit lmaooo
@@idfklol I’m so sorry I regret my sins. FORGIVE ME 🦪🦪🦪🦪🦪🦪
Remember if you have any differing opinions your a “bad person” according to the twitter Cesspool
I never understood why people like mixing politics/real life problems into media, like ask the guy about game/voice acting related stuff. It’s gotten to the point I can’t enjoy things with a fam base because a person has a different opinion than someone. A voice said something different, well let’s start a riot, my God social media is full of babies especially twitter, just ignore it and move on🤦🏿
You're the most sane person i've ever read a comment of.
And no, this is not sarcasm, i'm not with the radicals.
@@guliverjham8148 I appreciate it, we’re all just tryna enjoy our entertainment lol
This may not be political in Sega's eyes, but It'll sure be polemical... Why is Pollock hanging around on Twitter at this point, the site trully poisons people, and we may just have observed that.
Bro started sounding more and more pissed the longer it went on.
I was listening during your part in the background and I can’t believe I didn’t realize it was you lol.
I’m glad to see most people on here are being pretty civil. I talked to a friend at work today (also a big Sonic fan) and we both were really surprised at how insane the backlash got.
Not to say people can’t or shouldn’t be upset but like the threats and saying he’s downright evil seems like a lot to me.
But I’m not one to talk about serious situations I don’t have a lot of education on either so
Personally I don't even know why this video was made. Mike expressing his opinion is complete fine. If you ask me, we shouldn't have to be focusing on this whole war deal, what we SHOULD be focusing our energy on is the problems we have in our own country. We don't need to involve ourselves in foreign affairs
The 'super insane' part is not insane at all. What?
Damn everyone wants him fired shit got me sad but it’s what ever just another reason why I’m giving up on continuing when I turn 22 this month
Staying alive is gangster shit, don't succumb and be a victim rise above my friend
But you gotta stay with us for the next 100 years of Sonic Twitter drama! If you need someone to talk to, let me know. Or reach out to someone you trust.
Disagreed, sonic 3 isn't out yet you gotta see keanu reeves shadow bro
Stay alive, giving up means admitting defeat, but even if our lives may seem like they mean little to nothing in the grand scheme of things, we make our own purposes in life and we ought to prove this often terrible and uncaring world that we are stronger than it, that we are insolent enough to achieve our own meaning in life and live our lives to the fullest, all to spite the universe that only exists to perpetuate entropy. So go out and give the world a middle finger, don't let this entropy win, find your way, find your ambition and desires, chase them, get them and bring something into the world, the moment you bring even the smallest of changes into the world you've won, so don't give up, don't let the chance of victory against the universe's cruelty slip away
Ur gonna miss sonic 3 if you do
Shit take, TSS. Mike can want good for his people. He wasn't even close to unhinged in this interview either, he was an actual adult about everything.
I felt so bad for him having to play adult in a space full of pearl clutching autistic teenagers.
actually adult about everything, except when someone actually asked a good question and started being dismissive and stopped having any discussion with them.
Yeah. I really hope you didn't watch the whole video though. All the points said against Eggman's act were just stupid. He had all the right to piss on the Moon
@@trynnicus The 'good points' you're talking about is that last woman bringing a bunch of things that were never adressed to brigade his argument.
The guy wants hostages freed and everyone implies he hast to say 'pooor palestinians 😞😞😞' at every turn. You have brain rot!
@@trynnicusthe problem is the lady was trying to change the discussion to something that was unrelated to his comment. Mike Pollock did not do anything wrong in this situation.
I noticed TSS is only liking comments that align with his beliefs rather than "reading the room"
Darn. Looks like the guy needs to stop huffing the kool-aid for clicks
@@nightbearsnebula I still like his videos, but this is the side of youtubers I prefer NOT to accidentally see.
That "super insane part" is extremely reasonable, i didnt see this video everyone keeps talking about but hes just saying he wants the hostages to be let go, he says multiple multiple times that he wants both sides hostages freed. When BLM was protesting they werent getting told, well other races get minecrafted by cops so you need to educate youself and say all of it is bad, or when the few people did say that kind of stuff the blm group would say things very similar to what Mike is saying, this is a situation that specifically is about his people he is going to firstly think of his people, but hes saying as well that all people should be freed, but oh no he got frustrated when twitters mob tried to get him to game end himself for saying he wants a peaceful resolution.
Actually some people did say that and the rebuttals were mostly sensible like Mike’s. But some people would say “All lives matter” in a neutral way and others would call them racist somehow because it inherently meant it was anti-BLM despite that not making sense.
It’s not all black and white. There’s just wrong and right and regardless of the angle you come at something, there will be people who have a problem with it. In different ways. And every crowd will display contradiction in some form. lol
@@Axxidousno more crowds
@@wariowahwah580 Agreed
@@Axxidous"All lives Matter" as a response is meant to ignore the statistically disproportionate incarceration and systemic failures of black communities in the US but I understand your sentiment
@@godhimself1128 no, all lives matter is meant to represent that all human lives matter no matter what race, even white people. we are the human race and we should all respect one another and not be racist towards any race, period. don't be like kotaku
Mike Pollock is a sweet and awesome guy.
He should be respected!
Eggman talks about his view on hostages really respectfully ironically on twitter
So it's another Twitter nothing burger?
It's another Twitter nothing burger.
Yep
welcome to the channel
this is just another overexaggerated twitter thing. Mike is within his rights to have an opinion, and hes not evil for CARING ABOUT HOSTAGES AND WANTING THE WAR TO END.
Naw. Hes just getting into his next character arc
it’s so stupid he felt the need to talk serious politics in this context
33:06 I think I understand what he's trying to say. I'm the eldest of my siblings, naturally I didn't ask to be the one responsible for how they see and learn from me. I can that here, you want to state your opinion because hey-1st amendment rights, but you've built a reputation that kinda destroys that freedom. At that point, what can you really do? The internet has become more hostile than ever in very recent years so it's nearly impossible to even remotely take risks to simply state what you may not think of at the time as a hot take or a distasteful comment. Time does evolve and so does humanity, leaving you out of touch in the process.
idk the guy who kept doing the shadow impression sounds like a bit of a chad to me
I saw an animated version and it was so cool. I think it was sadly taken down like an hour afterwards though because I can't find it anymore.
drama never lasted until the year ends....
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I promise there are bigger problems in this world than the eggman voice actor’s take on a humanitarian issue
Why is everything about the minors I swear, I didn't hear anything that puts Mike in an actual bad light here. He wasn't talking to minors, was he? No, that argument is stupid. Not only that, but he is Jewish, so of course he wants his people to be ok. That doesn't mean he magically doesn't want the other people to be ok now. People just love making assumptions and jumping to conclusions that fit their narrative. It's crap like this that makes me wanna stay out of any sort of political debate.
That last call... Wow... 👏
Basically, Mike dipped his toes into something he probably shouldn't have, and Twitter pulled him under.
Seeing some of the refered to replies on screen would've been great for context
So you genuinely said during the call "but you play one" like as if thats supposed to mean anything.
I figure you intended a slight bit of snark and that he would reciprocate it but that ultimately didnt add anything to the conversation.
it was a joke
@@jestawell I figured, but what an odd thing to say in what is intended to be a serious conversation.
@@themememaster7844 he was a sonic tuber talking to Eggman, the Sonic Fandom is such a bizarre place for Mike to want to have this very serious and controversial conversation. obviously he needs real friends he can talk to and not do this on his professional twitter account. I know a lot of celebrities will make dumb anonymous account to just go to town their their opinions, but then he couldn’t use his Eggman fame
@@jestawell I feel like it wasn't necessarily his intent to work off of his eggman fame, but I think more so just to do a quick and easy clear up so that nothing wrong is spread. I mean it's on his Mike pollock account anyways its not like he role playing eggman while saying this.
@@themememaster7844 that’s true but, recently in an unrelated to this drama, people were asking Mike to repeat a joke about peeing, and he did a great job of explaining “no” that he is a custodian of the role and he can’t say anything controversial because he’s Eggman. but obviously he felt the need to wade into the murky of water of the Israel-Palestine conflict
Controversial Political viewpoint explanations with Sonic gameplay in the background is a genre I didnt think I needed 😭
I don't want it.
It's weird how something that's not controversial by nature is now suddenly controversial.
He's allowed to be worried for jewish hostages, history hasn't exactly been that kind to them.
What did he say that got him canceled?
He basically said he hopes the remaining Israeli refugees get home safely.