10 levels of d i s s o n a n c e

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  • Another random idea I had.
    I do not own any of the videos used in this video.
    #piano #top10 #hard #dissonance

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  • @Jartious
    @Jartious  2 місяці тому +161

    Too many mistakes. I am ashamed that I let so many mistakes slip, such as the spelling of Lisitsa, concerto, and the title of the last clip. I will admit, I did rush this video a bit and was getting impatient as the softwares I was using were acting up.
    Anyway, here are the sources:
    ua-cam.com/video/1vDxlnJVvW8/v-deo.htmlsi=ME7a-ki0wXZNKOmI
    ua-cam.com/video/zucBfXpCA6s/v-deo.htmlsi=VGrxIzIdhC-ET3hW
    ua-cam.com/video/drbHdLSbYwc/v-deo.htmlsi=h-p82X3UaI2PEd7p
    ua-cam.com/video/E-Hva8dRLuY/v-deo.htmlsi=ILT9_-IZmnE8p0pL
    ua-cam.com/video/HHP9Az5V8Vw/v-deo.htmlsi=gNUoJE1sLM8P5Eok
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    ua-cam.com/video/JFIGoB7rK70/v-deo.htmlsi=C44LMnuuWSQzFvUM
    ua-cam.com/video/d2ClI74dP_Y/v-deo.html
    ua-cam.com/video/-LIw8ykSmGU/v-deo.htmlsi=CNKAysQkTJL62hO4
    Also, I can't believe I accidentally put an "I'', in concerto, silly me.

    • @aondutta325
      @aondutta325 2 місяці тому +4

      dude u literally spelt her name as lititsa like wtf

    • @ThatOneGuyRAR
      @ThatOneGuyRAR 2 місяці тому +3

      Concierto is just a non-english spelling, it’s an acceptable mistake to make

    • @IValueSimplicity
      @IValueSimplicity 2 місяці тому +4

      And yet it was still a very successful video either way

    • @TimothyReeves
      @TimothyReeves 15 днів тому

      It's the Spanish spelling

  • @FilmscoreMetaler
    @FilmscoreMetaler 2 місяці тому +442

    When you're trying to compose something original but all the good melodies are already taken:

    • @kommentator8577
      @kommentator8577 2 місяці тому +12

      I feel it bro

    • @epointerwinboie
      @epointerwinboie 2 місяці тому +14

      Godowsky never had that problem tbu, his compositions always sounded fresh and new

    • @WhoDis-se2uq
      @WhoDis-se2uq 2 місяці тому +2

      pfft, Ling Ling is disappointed..

    • @rodnaskel2123
      @rodnaskel2123 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@epointerwinboie the composer whose most famous pieces are literally piano gamelan, Chopin on steroids and variations on Schubert's melody, tbh your observation makes sense

    • @epointerwinboie
      @epointerwinboie 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rodnaskel2123 still incredibly unique to me

  • @frederikhutfless
    @frederikhutfless 2 місяці тому +350

    Last one is not by Concert Creator A.I but played by Kentaro Noda. He deserves credit for even attempting this piece in front of people.

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +66

      I've made so many mistakes in this video... I'm contemplating taking it down, but it's already got 1000 views and plus, I don't have the original file anymore

    • @Strawberryfreak
      @Strawberryfreak 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Jartious Why did you heart your own comment XD

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +28

      @@Strawberryfreak it's more of an aesthetic thing, it looks kinda odd from my perspective if I don't heart mine as well.

    • @hisky.
      @hisky. 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@Jartious you said this but didn't heart your second reply lmao

    • @danell4208
      @danell4208 2 місяці тому +2

      Fattar inte

  • @Hudson_Holland
    @Hudson_Holland 2 місяці тому +86

    The performer for number 10 is such a legend 😅 To be willing to play that and scream at the score paper in front of a classical audience deserves some respect and I thought he really did the piece justice. Really cool video!

    • @mememed2363
      @mememed2363 2 місяці тому +12

      The page turner was scared 😭😭

  • @jameshall9353
    @jameshall9353 2 місяці тому +27

    I honestly liked all of it until 9. Well, 10 is probably the greatest thing that has ever blessed humanity’s ears.

  • @z3my4l
    @z3my4l Місяць тому +11

    4:15 Sounds like he’s shouting in Finnish ”saatana saatana saatana”, which is quite common curse, translates into ”god damn” repeatedly.

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 2 місяці тому +24

    That Rautavaara concerto is an absolute banger! For such a dissonant work I found it to be quite accessible!

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +5

      Me too honestly

    • @yeetthebeet
      @yeetthebeet Місяць тому +1

      yeah and honestly most of it is not that dissonant very tonal work overal

  • @ilk100deki_UydurukGrafik
    @ilk100deki_UydurukGrafik 2 місяці тому +39

    1:09 “I know you’re watching this Xnad!”
    you’re welcome

  • @_b_moll
    @_b_moll 2 місяці тому +133

    The jump in dissonance from mazeppa to Scriabin 8 is insane lmao

    • @maxwalsh9950
      @maxwalsh9950 2 місяці тому +2

      Omg yeah glad someone pointed it out 😭

    • @Fire_Axus
      @Fire_Axus 2 місяці тому +1

      stop getting so emotional

  • @gitikagitika715
    @gitikagitika715 2 місяці тому +19

    Finnissy is truly the God of "using a cat to compose" Imo

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 2 місяці тому +17

    Scriabin's 8th is so fucking great.

  • @renaissanceman9034
    @renaissanceman9034 2 місяці тому +51

    Level 9 sounds like aliens contacting us.

  • @WolfgangAmadeusMozart-
    @WolfgangAmadeusMozart- 2 місяці тому +46

    Mozart approves!

  • @Bampaloudu64
    @Bampaloudu64 2 місяці тому +9

    First time I read Ravel's Valses Nobles et Sentimentales I checked at least 10 times the opening chords just to make sure I was reading well. These chords just make sense when you play the valse in one go, but individually they are absolutely uncanny.

  • @Aminuteorso...
    @Aminuteorso... 2 місяці тому +36

    I try to stay open minded but there is truly nothing appealing about Finnissy.

    • @scriabinismydog2439
      @scriabinismydog2439 2 місяці тому +7

      Try listening to Red Earth or his impressions of other composers like "Scriabin in itself", "Erik Satie, like everyone else" etc. The string quartets are also quite accessible

    • @alessandropelizzoli6613
      @alessandropelizzoli6613 2 місяці тому +9

      As Mozart said: if a Piece of music doesn' t produce pleasure Simply It Is not Music.

    • @growskull
      @growskull 2 місяці тому +1

      it creates a unique atmosphere

    • @TheDeadOfNight37
      @TheDeadOfNight37 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@alessandropelizzoli6613 scores for horror movies don't create pleasure but discomfort, are those not music?

    • @dbsphin
      @dbsphin Місяць тому +2

      Listen to the Seven Sacred Motets, and then Vieux Noël. He was 12 when he wrote that second piece and it's already his Op58. Consider that if you as the listener aren't getting things that someone able to do that is writing, then it *might* be you, not they, who is missing something?

  • @zanoryxx4353
    @zanoryxx4353 2 місяці тому +33

    a somewhat dissonant piece i actually enjoy listening to is rzewskis the poeple united will never be defeated

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +5

      I'll check it out!

    • @TheSlowPianist
      @TheSlowPianist 2 місяці тому

      @@Jartious The cotton mill blues is an especially strong movement.

    • @thepostapocalyptictrio4762
      @thepostapocalyptictrio4762 Місяць тому +1

      Rzewski is brilliant

    • @reubencash9226
      @reubencash9226 Місяць тому

      that piece is one of my favourites at the moment, I recommend Hamelin's recording :)

  • @jakeacake6899
    @jakeacake6899 2 місяці тому +6

    'The Devil's Staircase' by Ligeti is one of my favourites for dissonant piano. Amazing video

  • @mrfluffygaming4525
    @mrfluffygaming4525 2 місяці тому +5

    The more the level goes high, it starts to sound more avant-garde. mostly some pieces that are so dissonant entered the 20th century including ravel and debussy. What a big step

  • @s.hfredin6851
    @s.hfredin6851 Місяць тому +6

    03:14, New excuse: Forearm not big enough😂

  • @RachManJohn
    @RachManJohn 2 місяці тому +9

    Seen and approved, although the rabbit hole goes deeper still.

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +5

      Yeah I know, this is very general. Could you give me some links to the deeper areas? I'm curious.

  • @pianopracticediary
    @pianopracticediary 2 місяці тому +12

    I was really laughing out loud when I saw that synthesia video of the Finnissy piece😂
    Thats usually something you’d associate with an Einaudi piano piece…

  • @lipeevide1255
    @lipeevide1255 2 місяці тому +19

    Level 10 is insane 😅😅

  • @segalanicolas5608
    @segalanicolas5608 2 місяці тому +66

    I prefer level 10 to level 9 honestly

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +16

      Yeah, honestly level ten was probably composed as a joke

  • @gargoyleg4368
    @gargoyleg4368 2 місяці тому +3

    As Charles Ives said "Stand up and take your dissonance like a man".

  • @sitearm
    @sitearm Місяць тому

    I like how the assistant retreated briskly after turning each page - thank you for posting this... I think :-)

  • @chifu1826
    @chifu1826 2 місяці тому +6

    my question is, does the sheet music in the last one clarifies what pitch you should scream in? or does it just say SCREAM!!!!

  • @user-tk2jy8xr8b
    @user-tk2jy8xr8b Місяць тому +1

    Feinberg's Sonata started being interesting at the beat drop

  • @SamarthSachinJadhav
    @SamarthSachinJadhav 10 днів тому

    Whoa, Level 10 even had a voice part!

  • @Whaijorhujishkomunyk
    @Whaijorhujishkomunyk 2 місяці тому +12

    That Rautavaara concerto is so damn epic
    bur where pkrokofiev dissonances?😭

    • @Hastenforthedawm
      @Hastenforthedawm 2 місяці тому

      And beautiful. Everything he wrote was majestic yet very dissonant

  • @DressedForDrowning
    @DressedForDrowning Місяць тому +1

    3:52 - Since we have this now, we can burn all of Beethoven's, Mozart's and Schubert's piano sonatas. Let's listen and sing along with this wonderful tune.

  • @ukdavepianoman
    @ukdavepianoman 2 місяці тому +3

    This is tame stuff....Xenakis (e.g. Synaphai) would be several levels about 10. Even Messaien's Turangalila Symphony has some really juicy dischords. Level 10 was more bizarre than anything else. Always happy to see/hear Scriabin PS8.

  • @puffballbk2186
    @puffballbk2186 2 місяці тому

    More vids like this please !

  • @ronl7131
    @ronl7131 Місяць тому

    Great finish

  • @gitikagitika715
    @gitikagitika715 2 місяці тому +4

    A suggestion: ten levels of pieces that are meant to be played by one hand

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +3

      Will definitely consider. If I do I'll credit you!

    • @gitikagitika715
      @gitikagitika715 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jartious Thanks! I would love to see alkan's op 76 and hamelin's 7th etude

  • @LeanneHolloway-cy2uo
    @LeanneHolloway-cy2uo 2 місяці тому

    level 9 is so magical

  • @fabriceclement6587
    @fabriceclement6587 2 місяці тому

    Forty-thousand years of evolution and we've barely even tapped the vastness of human potential...

  • @oryx3
    @oryx3 2 місяці тому +1

    That last one... she turns the page, then gets out of there FAST!
    (especially when he starts barking like a dog)

  • @chadevans3299
    @chadevans3299 2 місяці тому +3

    I am not sure I hear "dissonance". I think I hear Art!

    • @catpoisonlover
      @catpoisonlover Місяць тому

      It is dissonance, and it is art. Dissonance is beautiful

  • @feinbird9161
    @feinbird9161 15 днів тому

    NODAAAAA HERE WE GO

  • @olenvasinud7205
    @olenvasinud7205 Місяць тому

    Cleanly, without errors I can only play the last piece.

  • @Snardbafulator
    @Snardbafulator 27 днів тому

    I enjoyed the Finissey. While it's certainly at least freely atonal, it's not hugely dissonant (and thus not worthy of the #9 spot) because there are very few chords. The vast majority of it is two lines or sometimes just one line played by two hands.

  • @kirillerofeev8758
    @kirillerofeev8758 Місяць тому +1

    Galina Ustvolskaya deserves to be here and take 8.5

  • @SkullMattersTheMost
    @SkullMattersTheMost Місяць тому

    The last one is literally me at 5 years old trying to be virtuoso

  • @yeetthebeet
    @yeetthebeet Місяць тому

    rautavaara's PC 1 is a geniune masterpiece

  • @zaqareemalcolm
    @zaqareemalcolm 18 днів тому

    imma be real level 8 sounds more consonant than level 5-7
    prolly cause the only real dissonant part there are the right-hand/arm part clusters (and the outer voices of said cluster is still a fairly listenable melody too)

  • @Rach-Fanatic
    @Rach-Fanatic 2 місяці тому +3

    Why use mid recordings for the pieces?

  • @AFGalopp
    @AFGalopp 2 місяці тому +4

    Where are Webern and Boulez?

  • @luisbaldas2118
    @luisbaldas2118 Місяць тому

    Last guy was dying to take a piss

  • @robertjohnsontaylor3187
    @robertjohnsontaylor3187 23 дні тому

    I remember some years ago a recording was made from a collection of snatches of unrelated recordings, for no apparent reason. As the dissonance increased on these piano pieces I was reminded of that recording. Are these dissonance piano music just produced just to say look I can produce horrible music, get pianists to play it, and the gullible to pay and waste their lives lives to listen to it 🧟

  • @SaturnineXTS
    @SaturnineXTS Місяць тому

    Gorguts - Forgotten Arrows is just the right level of dissonance for me

  • @mmtroidd2098
    @mmtroidd2098 Місяць тому

    The last pianist is a Japanese pianist named Kenichiro Noda. Unfortunately, he became more famous for blew up with internet than for his piano.

  • @jameshandaja1536
    @jameshandaja1536 2 місяці тому +1

    Is the 4th movement from Chopin sonata Op.35 dissonant too?

  • @reginaldd.paperstacks194
    @reginaldd.paperstacks194 2 місяці тому

    I love some dissonance

  • @chrisogburn8240
    @chrisogburn8240 Місяць тому

    Rautavaara kicks ass!

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 Місяць тому +1

    Level11. Anything for Piano by Stockhausen.

  • @doublegutshotdraw
    @doublegutshotdraw 2 місяці тому +1

    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, don´t blink or you will miss it, 7, 6, 8, 9, 10

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +1

      I honestly don't know why this video is doing so well. Quality wise, it's sub zero 😭

  • @BlueSteve
    @BlueSteve 2 місяці тому +3

    The last one reminded me of Elton John-

  • @KrzysztofRatajskimusic
    @KrzysztofRatajskimusic 2 місяці тому +1

    10 levels of PIANO dissonance. there is so much more between semitones ;) I like listening to a safe 6-7 mostly, although my music is more 8

  • @douglasyiuchinglok307
    @douglasyiuchinglok307 Місяць тому +1

    What is the tenth piece called?

  • @jordans415
    @jordans415 2 місяці тому +2

    i never understood, are those pieces by sorabji, finnissy, etc written for actual listening/playing? or are those just joke pieces? can someone please explain it to me lmao

  • @davel4708
    @davel4708 2 місяці тому

    I've often thought an orchestra tuning up could easily be mistaken for a 20th century avant- guard piece. It was a brave but ultimately not enduringly popular movement.

  • @ecoleplace-des-jeunes6350
    @ecoleplace-des-jeunes6350 2 місяці тому

    Hi sir I am desperately searching for a rare piece of piano from Howard Goodall. It’s a piano piece (very modern!!) that you will find during the intro of the documentary titled Carl Jung wisdom of the dream. Maybe you have heard of it? Thank you.

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому

      I'm afraid I I haven't, but I will look into it

  • @SgtJoelberg
    @SgtJoelberg Місяць тому

    “This thing”

  • @wikiddikdik1352
    @wikiddikdik1352 Місяць тому

    i dont even know what dissonance is but this video is great

  • @0miyage
    @0miyage Місяць тому

    Interesting video, but why zlmost only piano works ? Consonance and dissonance can be differently percieved with sustained sounds (organ, orchestra...)

  • @eliehalimi
    @eliehalimi 2 місяці тому +1

    The most dissonant piece i've ever listened to was Le regard des anges by O. Messian. It's lvl 11 in your list 😅

  • @choiyatlam2552
    @choiyatlam2552 2 місяці тому

    As a rule of thumb as a composer. Dissonance in upper register usually wouldn’t sound that bad. Also, if there are other elements like easily recognizable rhythm, dynamics, activity, etc. It also wouldn’t be that bad. In the world of contemporary music, if you can find predominantly traditional note head, it’s a sign that the piece isn’t that bad. This is as if someone say, they’ll love Maths if it stays with number, but they lost in when English alphabets start to appears.

  • @Alik_msk
    @Alik_msk Місяць тому

    Ai превразашел всю популярную эстраду. Браво

  • @ThatOneGuyRAR
    @ThatOneGuyRAR 2 місяці тому

    You chose the most listenable of the late Scriabin sonatas and the most listenable of Sorabji pieces. Also Rautavaara PC 1 should be a lot lower because although the chords are cluster chords, the voicing and the melody still lies in the outer octave, with the in-between notes more just existing for color. I think a more accurate progression would be
    Rautavaara PC 1
    Scriabin sonata 6 or 7
    Maybe something Messiaen, but I can’t tell if this is above or below Sorabji
    Sorabji Opus Clavicembalisticum/Archimagicun cadenza
    Finnissy anything

  • @musicav3284
    @musicav3284 2 місяці тому

    Louis loops by Errollyn Wallen is very dissonant too ,well I think

  • @KHDemyx
    @KHDemyx Місяць тому

    No Kapustin etude in minor seconds? That thing will tickle your brain

  • @tabchoirreuploads
    @tabchoirreuploads 2 місяці тому

    Funny!

  • @Baldr-rj2ew
    @Baldr-rj2ew Місяць тому

    Mozart has composed a quartet subtitled the dissonances. at the end, it's noise. You could quote Boulez.. but modern music is not dissonant but with different scales

  • @benshim333
    @benshim333 2 місяці тому

    Where can I find the full recording for the last piece?

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +1

      It's the last link in the pinned comment

    • @benshim333
      @benshim333 2 місяці тому

      @@Jartious Thanks. Can't wait to listen to it

  • @pianista-mediocre
    @pianista-mediocre 2 місяці тому

    What is the name of the last one?

  • @samuelwongyt
    @samuelwongyt 2 місяці тому +1

    schoenberg?

  • @GlortMusic
    @GlortMusic Місяць тому

    3:51 Béla Bartók, is it you? 😳

  • @jannis11
    @jannis11 Місяць тому

    naiCe

  • @j.c.6812
    @j.c.6812 2 місяці тому +1

    Atonal, tone cluster ...

  • @greg-warsaw4708
    @greg-warsaw4708 Місяць тому

    Take almost any of Keith Jarrett's solo piano improvised concertos, wait the first couple of minutes of deceptively nice music and here you are, generously served with dissonance. He calls that aural sculptures, not adding they feel like made of barbed wire, not white marble.

  • @robb6560
    @robb6560 Місяць тому

    Rautavaara First piano concerto is not so dissonant, I personally put it at level 6 not level 8.

  • @lorenzoromano_original
    @lorenzoromano_original Місяць тому

    This is basically jazz music but it didn't make it

  • @DanielSilva-gc4xz
    @DanielSilva-gc4xz 2 місяці тому

    I think Contrapunctus 11 by Bach on the organ would be kinda high too.

  • @benharmonics
    @benharmonics 2 місяці тому +1

    Level 9 is where it loses me 😅

  • @chloroxiphite
    @chloroxiphite Місяць тому

    How could you forget microtones! Poppe's Rad, Schnittke's quintet....

  • @chrisogburn8240
    @chrisogburn8240 27 днів тому

    RAUTAVAARA!!!!!

  • @mtheinvincible4156
    @mtheinvincible4156 2 місяці тому

    The title of piece number 10 is "Regan Meets Damien: True Love, at Last!", I believe?

  • @user-cj1oo8zh6m
    @user-cj1oo8zh6m Місяць тому

    Если вы слушаете в наушниках - будьте аккуратны после 2:30

  • @andreasxfjd4141
    @andreasxfjd4141 Місяць тому

    The worst skill of the AI: the music. Therefore: music is the highest tier of art.

  • @jukeban646
    @jukeban646 2 місяці тому

    Do u have a link for the last video ? xD

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому

      It's in the pinned comment. I always put my sources in the comments!

    • @jukeban646
      @jukeban646 2 місяці тому

      @@Jartious thx u i didn t see

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому

      @@jukeban646 no problem!

  • @yeetthebeet
    @yeetthebeet Місяць тому

    FEINBERG 3 MENTIOND RAHHHH

  • @gregonline6506
    @gregonline6506 2 місяці тому

    For the last piece it would be quite interesting to hear it played on piano with poor intonation. I would bet, most ppl would be able to hear the difference. 👽

  • @lucasgust7720
    @lucasgust7720 2 місяці тому

    Where is the dissonance of the firt piece?

  • @user-lc4uw8lj5r
    @user-lc4uw8lj5r 2 місяці тому

    Wonderful rank! I don't understand why musicians makes those types of music. Especially the last one, it's just noise. No harmony whatsoever. Make more of these types of ranks, please!

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +2

      I feel like the last piece was more of a joke. I have struggled to enjoy this "noise" music, but lately I have had a breakthrough with the Feinberg sonata, which I thoroughly enjoyed surprisingly. Thanks for the comment!

    • @pianopracticediary
      @pianopracticediary 2 місяці тому +1

      I think thats quite serious…It is raw emotion. Thats what music is all about. I remember listening to Widmanns viola concerto for the first time. That scream was a nice climax to that building tension.

  • @lflfkffjfkggocjdndn9938
    @lflfkffjfkggocjdndn9938 Місяць тому

    i tap out after level 8

  • @vitanaiq9884
    @vitanaiq9884 2 місяці тому +1

    I know you're watching this xnad!

  • @jasonenosart
    @jasonenosart 2 місяці тому

    No Prokofiev?

  • @user-kf4ei5mk3q
    @user-kf4ei5mk3q 2 місяці тому

    «Mary had a lobotomy», «Old MacDonald had a lobotomy».
    Please listen these⬆️.

  • @samvanderbijl1201
    @samvanderbijl1201 2 місяці тому +1

    Composers like Messiaen, Boulez, Stockhausen, Ligeti and Xenakis are missing in my opinion.

    • @Jartious
      @Jartious  2 місяці тому +1

      I only had 10 spots 🤷‍♂️. Maybe I could do a 20 levels one day

  • @rafapenaloza9874
    @rafapenaloza9874 2 місяці тому

    level 10 should be “Piano Sonata No. 2” by Pierre Boulez