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22:27 2.1 KW is the effect with which it charges, it's not per any time unit. In other words it's directly linked to the current as explained by W = V x A
This is the almost perfect review anyone considering buying an EV right now should watch. Perfect to convince most people who might be reluctant to buy an EV. The only thing would be to tell people exactly what to expect for the charging side of things, with a reinforced 16A plug, with a 7.4kw wallbox and from a high speed charger so that they can decide whether or not this is the kind of car they need because I believe it's the most important thing to know about EVs. Other than that, a very comprehensive and honest "review".
There is a reason for the long waiting list, they are just so good. Very easy to live with now that the range is so high, and charging is relatively easy. Once you have driven one, there is no going back. Kia, 7 year warranty and the quality control shines through. Thanks for an honest review.
Traded in my 2019 Toyota Camry for a 2021 Niro. Love this car. Quite, zippy, easy to learn the system, and I am getting about 250 miles on a charge. Other than a too too loud back up beep it's perfect.
Got mine a couple of weeks ago. Driving is fun again. The e-Niro is one example of how the future belongs to electric cars. It's comfortable, it's serene. Until you kick the acelerator and unleash that torque. Yes, they are still quite expensive but I cannot imagine for one moment ever going back to an ICE car again. It is just that much better.
The best way the government can do to promote EV cars is to give free charging at large solar panel fields. Here in the Netherlands we have some and it's a great changer. Early EV owners who missed the purchase bonus also profit from this.
What a privilege to accompany GG on this learning curve. Particularly liked the charging rate observations halfway through and the post 100km waypoint phrases like "That's FAST! - I DO like this car".. and "Being a Scotsman" (14.6Kwh / 100Km).. I know nothing about GG, but judging by the tyres his charger was sat on - he might be a bit of a petrol head - which makes his conclusions on the E-Niro Sage advice, from an open minded source, who let us follow his learning process. Thank you, Sir. I'm ordering mine right now.
You can come to a full stop without touching the brakes by holding down one of the regeneration paddles on the steering wheel (I don't remember which one, it's become so second nature I don't even realize which one I pull!). This car is ideal for very long trips actually. The charging network is more developed in most countries than people generally realize. I usually take a short toilet break every two hours or so and charge during that time (usually 15-20 minutes), and this gives me enough additional range to drive the next 1.5 hours or so. When I stop for a meal break every 5 hours or so I can let it charge longer. In the end, you can pretty much go on forever with this method without really having to ever wait while the car is charging at any point.
I think it’s all a matter of getting used to driving that way and ignoring the myths, now old, presented by motoring journalists frightened of the switch to EVs...
After living 13 years in the Netherlands without a car, we just bought a second hand Renault Zoe 42kWh. I was previously a bit of a petrol head when living in the UK, but this is the best car I have ever owned. This is the future and definitely not dull! My 22 year son is very happy to burn everyone off at the lights, despite the car only being 92 horsepower. Been a big fan of the UA-cam channel Fully Charged for several years and there they regularly talk about how the grid will cope, etc. Worth watching. I hope you take the plunge, Fraser, the e-Nero is an excellent car!
I think I gave watched every single e-Niro review on UA-cam now and this was the last one to see, and wow this was exactly what I was looking for. Every single review talks about the same thing comparing the car to other EV’s and the good and bad. This just hearing from someone who normally would enjoy driving a real car (6cyl or more, like I do) and hear an honest thought was great! Thank you for an excellent video review or what ever it could be called! Now I have to wait for my e-Niro 😅
After 14 very satisfying years with Toyota Prius, i even had reserved a Tesla Model 3 in search for the best comprise in a electric replacement. But with the e-Niro 64kWh finally found its true successor.
I've watched 500+ videos before I decided to buy the E-niro, and after having it for 3 weeks now and still in the algorithm of UA-cam, this video came along... Excellent honest video!
A great video and I have ordered a Kia E-Niro 4+ on a lease. I loved your thoughts on the car as it has answered a lot more of my questions I had thought of since ordering. Now it is just waiting 6 months for delivery... I believe that the best mindset will be charge when you can, so you mainly do top ups, at home and cheaper for day to day running. For longer trips it will be making use of the fast chargers during, coffe/toilet breaks! Also for a longer journey you may not need a full charge to get home, maybe only 15% extra, so with a wall charger back home you could give a reasonable top up overnight.
@@PinballGeorgio loving my E Niro 4+ had it for over 3 months and absolutely loving it. Replaced my Audi Q5 s-line and haven’t missed it at all. The Kia is really comfortable cooled seats are fantastic and range has been great. I have had at least 250 mile range with A/C running and phones charging. Even finished over a 200 mile trip with 86 miles range left! 11kWh AC charge is good and all the gadgets!
@@Jaw0lf I have mine for 3 weeks now and also love it! Coming from a Mercedes Benz C Class estate. I always brake to a complete stop to recuperate to the max and already had 750Km with 66KW used! mostly city traffic, it's amazing and much better then expected. We can charge for free here at groceries stores and more free chargers are coming, so it's very fun to drive and very cheap also! The only downside is that I noticed that other car drivers wants to push their car between de E-Niro and the one in front of me. With my Mercedes they didn't. Also 80% of the cars stopped behind me at traffic lights and now 80% next to me, because they think they accelerate quicker... haha, also fun every time that they creep behind you because the e-niro is quicker :)
I received my KIA e-Niro a few days ago. Really a great car. It's the "Spirit" in gravity-blue with 64kWh battery pack, leather-seats and of course the 3-phase-charger. Greetings from Cologne...
@@dukeofhuzza I did have to wait for three months. I signed the contract in mid-june. A short period of time for an electric car because my KIA car-dealer ordered many e-Niro without having any customers yet. I don't know how other KIA dealers operate. KIA is not VW, BMW or Mercedes. When you buy a new VW the car will subsequently be build individually for you. KIA builds their cars in South Korea and builds up a pool of new cars from where the dealers can pick them. That's possible because the surcharge list is very small. There are not that many different variants. For example my dealer ordered only cars with the bigger battery pack and 3-phase onboard-charger because he was confident that nobody would buy the smaller battery. He told me since the subsidy was enlarged by the government nearly 80% of the cars he sells are fully electric or at least plugin-hybrids. It's a leasing car. My previous car was a KIA Sportage diesel. In june I went to the dealer to order the next Sportage diesel. However at the end of the day I signed a contract for an e-Niro. The monthly costs are roughly the same. I don't know how long the dealer himself did have to wait for the car. My leasing contract for the Sportage ended last week so I had to wait till then to swap the car. I hope you understand my rickety english. Warum schreibe ich nicht einfach auf Deutsch?
Interesting video, I reieved my Niro 4+ (UK) a month ago and absoloutely love it, the quiet, smoothness, gadgets and not having to visit petrol stations are just some of the benefits. I have a wallbox but mainly I just plug it in inside my garage at nght and it recharges overnight, fantastic :)
I also last year(nov 19) had a loaner car for two days from the manufacturer, I started out with 84% drove to London approximately 150 miles, with a 45 minute break and charged which cost me £5.80, got to my destination in London ,plugged it into three pin socket, charged for a few hours, drove it home again another 150 miles got home and had 70 miles left of range. Very capable car for travelling anywhere in the UK 🇬🇧.
I'm not sure if someone commented on charging to 100%. As the battery fills past 80% the Level 2 and Fast DC charge rate drops somewhat (1kW as it nears 100%) so the estimated time to 100% is much longer. Typically you'd keep the maximum charge to 80% or less for your daily driving unless you need the extra range for a long trip. If you set the max charge in the car to 80% you get a much shorter charge completion calculation. Some recommend a 100% charge (don't store the car at 100%!) to balance the cell voltages occasionally . I'm charging to 70% and plug -in the car when needed . With winter coming reducing the car's range I'll go back to 80% or more. Depends on your driving needs. Some can get by with the supplied Level 1 charger which is 1.5 kWh in North America.
Good video, I also tested the eNiro for a day and decided it was the best of the bunch. Unfortunately at the time I was told the wait for a new one would be 10 months, yes that’s correct, 10 months. Well that put an end to that, no matter how good it is I am not waiting 10 months for one.
No I did not go for a Kona, it seemed cheap on the interior finish for the money and the equipment level was not as good as a Niro. I decided to go on an MG ZS as it was amazing value for money. It has everything fitted as standard equipment. It has everything the more expensive cars have except the extra range. The drive is good, not outstanding but a good all round car, warranty at 7 years is up there with the best, for the money it just can’t be beaten. I look at it as a good filler in, it will suit my needs meantime until such time as the car I really wanted becomes available within a reasonable period of time. I may keep the MG longer because it is fulfilling my needs at the moment and I am pleasantly pleased with it, it does have some silly faults but nothing major, well the adaptive cruise control using friction brakes instead of regen for controlling speed is a glaring fault, you don’t use cruise controls from an ice vehicle on an EV, really, really bad decision from MG.
Can I comment on charging. Yes it is useful to have a wall box as you get about 40 miles/hour. But for "Granny" charging at 10 miles/hour (in Europe) then the point is you leave it to charge over night giving you 80-100 miles (8-10 hours). The point is you are not waiting to charge and your car has a full "tank" every morning. If you are doing less than say 60 miles of driving a day then you can easily use a house charging - and you don't wait to charge - plug each day when you get home and unplug in the morning - Your car has a full tank every day. (USA is different - they only have 110V at 8-10A and that is a real problem for charging) If you regularly do more than this mileage a day then I recommend a wall box as you can fully charge most EV's over night. In my case I pay 5p a unit for 4 hours at night which means I can put 120+ miles of charge each night in my car for very little cost. Wall boxes are better if you go full EV since they are "safer" as house circuits would really need checking if you run a continuous 10-12A - they do get warm especially at the plug. The 32A wall boxes are much higher rated (40A) giving plenty of head room, nothing gets warm. Second , wall boxes need to be TT (ground earthed) as your car is grounded to earth - while most houses in the world are PME - the earth wire is connected to neutral somewhere - often resulting up to 10V to ground. The granny charger box provides protection - but a wall box is generally considered safer.
Great video. We have the e Niro 4 absolutely love it. I think for the money and yes it’s not cheap but it’s got to be the best bang for your buck at the moment. And like you I also think if more people trued an electric car and stopped listening to the motoring press who are basically sponsored by the car makers and fuel industry who really don’t won’t to both make or sell them they would sell a lot more. We regularly see when fully charged 310 plus miles range on the clock. And boy it’s cheap to run charging from home. Take a leap of faith and buy one I’m sure you will love it.
I would love to take the plunge right now, but with 2 years left on the current lease, I'll have to wait and see what the future brings - with Tesla's news from last week, I guess the competition is going to have get their skates on to catch up!
Really enjoyed your review Fraser. I’ve been following your on your organ channel for a while as I’m an organist myself. I’ve been driving electric cars for a number of years. I loved the lightbulb moments - exactly the same for me when I bought my first Nissan Leaf - particularly the - ‘wait a minute this could be cheaper’ moment 😃 - hope you go for it - you won’t regret it. Ps. Getting a higher rate charger at home is a must. Enjoy 👍
Thanks! I was quite skeptic about the whole thing until I started doing the maths. I’m going to be trying out a few more EVs over the coming months. Getting my hands on a Tesla for testing is proving rather difficult - I may just have to rent one for the weekend! I’ve still got the lease on the Kodiaq until 2022, so I’ve got plenty time to plan my options. Unless I find a deal that’s too good to be true. A second runaround wouldn’t harm too much, would it?!😬
The "Korean Windows" startup sound can be turned off: It is in the menu above your steering wheel. Uncheck the box that says "Welcome Sound" in your driver settings.
This is great news, I'm looking at buying an eniro but that windows start-up sound is a deal breaker! What region, trim (2, 3, 4+) and year car did you find this setting in?
@@bitzulu9508 Model year 21, Advanced. The highest trim available in Denmark, but it should be the same for the “Comfort” trim. Not sure about cars meant for other markets/regions but I would be surprised if they didn’t use the same software everywhere.
I own a Kia E-Soul about 5 months now and I haven’t bought a wall box. I’ve been fine just plugging in with the normal 110V and never had a problem. Over the weekend when I’m home doing nothing it charges to full and I don’t think about it.
I own the car for 3 weeks now and have a Wallbox installed, but here in NL we can charge the car for free at the locally eco grocery store. 2 visits a week 30 minutes charging at 44KW/h and never used the home charging.. It's so cheap! :)
Great review of the Niro from the perspective of a new EV driver. I have one and The standard house plug will keep you charged with your estimated 300+ kms a week. I have two cars and two three phase chargers in a garage but before those were installed the standard house power worked fine. You also said it isn’t a long distance car, but we travel 380 kms to my sons house in Toronto with one 30 min stop at a fast charger. Time enough to stop for a break and snack. And you are off again. Great review, worth saying twice. I would love to follow you if you only reviewed electric cars but I’ll never go back to gas!!! Thanks.
Ordered one here in Norway at the beginning of september. Being delivered in october - I'm like a child on Christmas morning! Love the car. For me it's electric or nothing.
You Norwegians! You’ve got, as far as I’ve heard, an amazing EV infrastructure, correct? Something like 60-70% of new cars up there are electric now, is that right? All that silence on the road! Nice! Good luck on the new Niro
@@dukeofhuzza The infrastructure is getting there, but we have a problem that I'm pretty sure is a non-issue in the rest of the world; long queues at fast/rapid chargers 😄 The share of electric cars isn't at quite that level yet, but roughly 50% of all new cars sold are currently BEVs. ICE cars currently hold a market share of around 20% - the rest consists of hybrids and plug-in hybrids. Of all cars in Norway, 7-8% of them are EVs.
I drive a city transit bus that is full electric which has a lot of similar features including the regenerative braking but the annoying thing that took a while to get used to is the noise maker that sounds like someone clipped playing cards on bicycle spokes, and is to alert pedestrians because the electric is so quiet that nobody could hear it approaching. The electric motor doesn't need a transmission like any other vehicle but they also have incredible torque
How many PS per hour does your petrol or diesel car have? ;-) See at 22:30. Kilowatt is kilowatt. It's the charging power. In one hour while charging constantly with 2 kW you get 2 kWh of energy in your battery on that "granny socket" ;-) Over night, in 10 hours with 2 kW constant charging you get 20 kWh of energy into the battery. That's about 100 km of driving or more or less depending on how you drive. It's more like 150 km of driving around on country roads like you did or it's 100 km with about 120 km/h on the Autobahn. (For daily commuting, plugging into that granny socket over night every other day might be enough). So yes, you said it, with a 3 phase adapter you get more charging power, with 16A you get 11kW - if the car can use 3 phase AC charging - not all can do that or it might be an option you must select when buying a car. So in 5 or maybe 6 hours (it tapers off on the high end) on 11kW you get 55 kWh in your battery and it should be full by then. So you can charge it completely during a short night. On a highway you use the 100kW fast chargers and please don't charge with a cold battery there because charging will be really slow with most EVs. So don't charge in the early morning on a fast charger - charge in the evening while the battery is still warm on a fast charger - or charge over night on 11kW AC. Or top up over night on that granny charger if that's enough for the next day anyway. In short: Use more power when you are in a hurry or use less and charge over night when you don't need so much. But I still don't drive an EV. There is no need to hurry and many companies don't produce that many EVs anyways for everyone to get one. So if it fits, it's OK. If it does not fit, well, no problem. There's no need to hurry.
Your question about 2.1 kW per what unit of time (hour/day/etc) slightly misunderstands what a kW is. Think of water. kW is the rate of water flow, kWhr (kilowatt hours) is the total amount of water. So, the 2.1 kW rate of power flow means that in one hour, you would have amassed an extra quantity of 2.1 kWhr, in one day, it would be (2.1 x 24 =) 50.4 kWhr and so on. Hope this helps. Thanks as always for the excellent content on this and your organ channel.
Not watched the whole thing yet, but my heart went out to Fraser when I saw his look of disappointment at the prospect of 6½ hours to take the car from 85% capacity back to 100% fully charged. One of the strange things about LIPo batteries is that they don't charge at a linear rate. You'd get back to 95% charge capacity in about 4 hours, then the last 5% would take a further 3 hours more. The kW rating that Fraser saw, would reduce over time, as the charge-rate dropped off towards 100%. The interesting thing for me (I am an engineer, so I enjoy stuff like this and do not have a social life) was the current draw indication on the plug in charger unit. If that shows 10A, then the supply voltage must have been around 210 volt (Watts = Volts x Amps, see..). The better solution If Fraser has an existing 3 phase supply in his garage, then a 3 phase 7.2kW charger would definitely re-charge the car back from something as low as 20% capacity back up to 85% capacity, in a little over five hours. Or in 50 minutes, from a 100A supercharger on the Autobahn.
Great review! Refreshing with a different approach than most car reviews. Keep up the good work. Let's see some of the more affordable EVs get reviewed now.
Very nice review. I live in Norway, and will receive my new e-Niro this week, trading in my Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid. The hybrid is not the best of both worlds, it's a little bit of each. Short EV-range, especially during the winter, high petrol consumption on longer trips, and two different engines working together, where things can go wrong. I bought the e-Niro because it looks like a car, not a design studio with an iPad glued to the dashboard... And because it's a spacious car with a good price and long range. In Norway, KIA is sold with a 7-year full warranty, the charging network is good, and I'm really looking forward to the new car. :-)
You’re so much more advanced regarding charging networks than here in Germany. If you don’t drive a Tesla you really need to plan your journeys with care. Things are getting better, but are nowhere near good enough for the near future.
Great review sir!. For the people thinking about buying a EV this is really helpful. To add to your video where you show the home charging above 80%. The fastest charging, also from home, is between battery capacity 20-80%. Above it slows down. So the number you showed can be misleading. The VESS button is the Virtual Engine Sound System. Is a law thing since 2020 I believe. It makes a virtual engine sound up to 30km/h for pedestrians to hear you coming.
I live in an apartment that has no charging stations so electric is not an option. Wanted to comment though about the Kia build quality as I ended up buying a regular Niro hybrid. I now have 52000km on it without one single thing going wrong with it. Like the electric I average much better energy consumption than Kia says. Around town I have gone1000km on a tank, or 3.9 l/100 km. My point is all forms of the Niro are fun to drive, reliable, get better consumption than the advertised energy ratings and are great to live with day to day as their interior packing is very intelligent.
Totally right, Kia is very honest with the range and even on the 'safe' site. With my E-Niro and 80% city usage and using always full recuperation when coming to a full stop, I had 800Km with a full 66KW load! Really!
Thank you so much for this honest review! This is exactly what most people want to know. How it drives in daily use, how quick it is when you need it for taking over or a fun sprint at a stoplight! It's also very quiet and I didn't know it could do little bends on the road when you put on adaptive. Really nice video and thank you so much! 👌🏻👍🏻 You've got another subscriber 😀
So the regular niro is already a hybrid then they have a phev and then the full bev. The car had intentions of being all three fro the get go but because you had two versions with a gas engine they weren’t going to be able to give a frunk. But i think Kia did an amazing job with this car in terms of comfortability usability tech and affordability for a very efficient vehicle. As an owner of a niro phev i can also attest to the car over preforming in mpgs as well
I live in the USA and am considering a Niro hybrid. I would purchase an EV, but charging stations are not widely available right now in my region. Thank you for this channel and these reviews.
A big hi to your better half in the car with you🤗 She got you off to a good start. I like that car, not sure it would suit 2 adults and almost 2 teenage boys for comfort? Great review, I actually want to go wherever that is on holiday, lovely houses nice countryside and the roads as you described well they are normal here. Anyway great job, you and Ronan Atkinson should have a meet up.
At the moment I drive a Kona Electric as of next year it’ll be the Kia Niro. Our Kona is 2 years old and on a trade in we are getting £31,000 that’s not to short of what I paid. As i got £4000 grant and the car price increase before pick up by £1000. BEVs are not loosing value to any great extent. Changing the car is for us a no brainer! Charging on a fast charge at home is easy overnight. I can’t drive 300 miles without a pit stop. I just plan the pit stop at a charge location. Normal everyday driving the Kia is more than capable and more to the point, for me at least, I’m not belching out filthy I.C.E fumes and that I believe is something we all should be thinking more about. If not for us then for our Grandchildren, so if money isn’t the major problem then it shouldn’t be part of the decisions.
I knew you'd love it. You began skeptical and ended thinking about money. About the lease: it makes double the sense because in 3y time the technology will have evolved and you can get a better one if you want to. Check the Zoe it is also a great car and of course, the fun Tesla. If you are adventurous, check the Chinese ones.
We shall see! The lease on the Skoda Kodiaq lasts 2 more years - that should give the market time to expand suitably! Will it be a Tesla? Watching their news from this week makes it seem quite likely that a lot of people will be heading their way in the future - at the same time, other marques will be catching up and the infrastructure will improve significantly (and myths will hopefully dissolve!), so I am excited to see what it will be!
When EVs were all 80-100 miles they were a bit challenging outside of everyday running around. But now with 200 or more miles range its a doddle to run as an only car household. We have been electric car only for 7 years and with a new eSoul (same battery and drivetrain as the eNiro) its easy on long trips. Just returned from Glasgow (550 miles each way) and it really was painless. Drove at motorway speeds and easily got 220 miles with 23 miles left, then lunch and a top up (45 minutes) and then a coffee/loo break for 20 minutes later on got us to Glasgow. Now if you drove more than say 250 miles everyday it might be slightly different but for everyone else doing 3 or 4 longer journeys a year its not an issue. All the myths around EVs are from 5 or more years ago. Modern EVs are now essentially just like any other equivalent car, but quicker and cheap to run. Still like old classic cars, and they will continue, but for normal use its all but over.
I'm beginning to realise that all the old myths regarding EVs, like you say, are now ancient and are only being kept alive by ardent motoring journalists (and those who believe every word they say) afraid of their futures! I'm currently monitoring all our "normal" driving and I'm finding it difficult to find any reasons to agree with the nay-sayers. My first foray into the world of EVs last week has been haunting me!
I'll be looking at a PHEV soon for the channel to see if that's the current answer for regular long-distance driving. As you say, for normal everyday use, an EV is proving hard to beat...
I have the E-Niro 2020. It’s a great car. The problem with PHEVs is that as the battery is so much lower capacity, they cannot be charged at very high fast DC charge rates. Also, as the electric range is small, yet still requires a longish charge time so folks often tend to not bother to charge them up as they can just drive on ICE fossil power alone.The issue then is that if a PHEV is not frequently plugged in, it becomes quite inefficient (less efficient than ordinary hybrids!). So IMO PHEVs area non starter. They are just too slow to charge and it’s all too too easy to just run on ICE alone and forego the plug in charging. Peter
Hullo,I am English,many years in Germany,and waiting for my ordered E Niro,so in the last couple of Months I soak up all the U Tube Videos on E Vs.so far I have only had a trial Run in a Kia E Soul(Same platform and assisten systems)as there was not an E Nieo available.We ordered Blind but I am now sure it was a good gamble.we hope to receive our car in 2020( December)or Jan 21.Keep up the Info it helps to keep us interested.
You'll love it- I was very impressed indeed. I think i know what my next car will be when the Kodiaq lease runs out! Then again, there's this new Skoda EV on its way, so we shall have to see...
since about 1890 was first electric car if not earlier. So we are late but it will overcome cumbustion engines driven by fosil fuel if only the price is right and the infrastructure is good enough.
i turn on and off my car every 10-15 minutes while on my job, i know it drains my gas, will it drain my battery? and total miles driven each day is about 200miles...should i get a full EV or stick with hybrid?
It will not drain the battery. I actually own the car in the video and in harsh winter conditions (I live in Norway where we have between -30 - +5c during winter) the car will do around 200 miles. In summer temperatures it will go 300 miles. This will vary based on the speed limits where you live. More speed uses more energy, just like a car with a gasoline engine. I would never buy a hybrid over a EV, but that depends i guess.
@@feitola i dont have time to burn during the days when im working to stop and find a place to charge and wait 30minutes. so im thinking hybrid might be better suited for me... i havent decided.. decisions decisions 🤔🤔🤔
So the regular wall socket is plenty for most people as it will add 13km of range every hour for 8 hours that's over 100km a day. You only need to replenish the miles you use each day. You don't have to charge it from empty to full every night, unless you drive the full range every day. Most people drive less than 100km a day. My mothers uses the regular wall outlet and we live in the US and she get half the mileage added because of the different electric grid. You only need the 3 phase if you drive farther than your normal home time can't recharge the range you use at 13 km an hour for each hour you are home.
Good point - I was assuming people just wanted to run the battery down to around 10% before charging it again - apparently that's the best way to ensure a long battery life rather than topping it up every 24 hours or so... Anyone out there with any experience of that?
@@dukeofhuzza most batteries don't like 100% all the time. In the Niro you can set it to charge to 80% or 90% and charge it to that everyday and it will be just fine. The way your were thinking about charging is why some people complain about charging times, they think that they will only charge it once or twice a week and then they will have some emergency and will have to wait for the car to charge. Keeping the car charger between 50% and 80% is recommended. And not letting it drop below 30%. Helps maintain the batttery, but when you need the full range like you are going to take a long trip you can charge to 100% and run it down to 10% and then dcqc to 80% and drive quit far.
@@dukeofhuzza It depends on the car. Many cars such as BMW I3 and Audi etron, and I think the Niro have a hidden top and bottom buffer, so when the indicator says 100% it is really around 90% charged. With those cars you do not have to think about charging too high. Others such as Tesla or Nissan Leaf allow you to charge fully up to the actual capacity, and you are encouraged to only charge up to 100% if you then immediately start your journey. Tesla has a convenient setting for daily or 'trip' use. In actual usage the principle is ABC. Always Be Charging. You just get into the habit of always plugging in every time you come home. It only takes a few seconds.
Great job. One of the most complete and detailed videos I have seen on the new 2020 Kia e-Niro. The previous model did not charge in DC beyond 77 kW, does the 2020 Kia e-Niro charge 100 kW? I know that the previous model charged in AC at 7.2 kW, does this Kia e-Niro 2020 charge at 11 kW? Do you usually drive in ECO mode? How much autonomy do you have?
AFAIK, still 77kW max from DC, 11kW from AC now (higher spec models). ECO mode is what I use it in. If you floor the "gas" pedal, it still shoots out like rocket (not slower than in Sport Mode). Sport mode just makes the pedal more sensitive to small movements in my view.
@@st4849 You're right, but the steering also changes with the modes. Normal mode, does give me the best steering response.. In Eco it's a bit sloppy and too easy to turn.
Vert few negatives with electric, except the initial cost. A lease can overcome that as running costs a lot lower. As they are so cheap you will always drive in sport mode ! If you dont need the size the new Zoe is fantastic.
One suggestion to everybody to be 100% honest if you do not have a place to plug-in at night or while you sleep I would stick with a hybrid. Supercharging still takes too long and is too expensive although still cheaper than petrol. But if you have a place to plug in,There’s nothing better for performance and money saving than an EV, and the whole thing about everybody overwhelming the grid. Let’s talk about Norway, 60% of their registered vehicles are EV’s. Or 60% of cars sold one or the other
I live in Norway, and am waiting for my e-Niro, trading in my 2 year old Mitsubishi Outlander hybrid. Hybrid (or plugin hybrid) is not the best of both worlds, it's a little bit of each. Very short electrical range, especially during the winter, high gas consumption on long trips, and two different engines where something can go wrong. BTW: 50 % of NEW cars sold in Norway are fully electric.
@@reidarstgard849 that is cool that 50% of new cars sold are EV‘s in Norway but 90% of the cars on the road there are still gas vehicles or maybe even 95% but for a small country you guys are doing a lot and you remain a role model for the rest of the world.thank you
Hey that sound that comes on with the VESs it stays on till about 8 miles an hour it’s just a low speed warning because the car is so quiet. The crazy thing new in the states we cannot turn that off. My car does not have that button 😳😳🤯🤯
I have had one of these things about eight months now 10,000 miles, yep a yank. I’m in central California I think they’re much more plentiful here since I drove less than 100 miles to pick one up. I love it so far it’s got some different little quarks but to get close to 300 miles and it’s about as quick as you want it to be and when you plug in at night it’s wherever you said it in the morning I have had zero issues so far knock on wood I enjoy your channel new subscriber send us a little bit of your rain would you please if you’ve got any
I’m puzzled by your comment, “buying the Niro doesn’t make sense” surely the leasing company has to make money, they won’t buy Nero EVs at a big discount as Kia can easy sell all they make. Leasing makes sense for companies as they set the lease against tax and leasing is good for those who can’t afford the full price. If one can buy outright without fiancé then in my opinion buying is the best option, as I did with our Kona. We have lost over the two years less than the cost of leasing the car. To lease over the last two year would have cost £7900 that’s way more than two years depreciation on our Kona Electric
You're right - buying it doesn't make sense to me - that's what I was implying in the video - as a freelancer, it would make a lot more sense to lease for me. See yesterday's video - I actually go over that exact point!
Gartshore's Garage Your last Vlog hadn’t arrived, it has now and I can see you self employed. Enjoy your Vlogs even if I don’t always agree with you. 👍🇬🇧
Sounds great - for the Westerwald. Wonder how long it would last east of the Carpathians with our unsurfaced roads, temperatures varying between -25C and +35C and 30 cms of snow. Of course not everyone needs to carry cinder blocks and cement, animal feed or firewood but surely most people need to take a sack of garden rubbish to the tip or visit Ikea occasionally. Plus, if it is leased, you can't make any changes to rectify the design failings that are inevitable when the designers sit in an office all day.
I think there are a whole lot of better vehicles out there to tackle such terrain - I can’t imagine anyone considering a Korean Crossover for that kind of work. An Unimog is what you’re looking for!
@@dukeofhuzza I forgot to mention my 1600 mile trips across Europe a couple of times each (normal) year. Freelander does it all, but it's diesel and therefore a curse upon the civilised world!
I'm sure there's a way - deep down in the car's programming - there's bound to be an "off" option there somewhere! Probably only accessible through shop software...
Correct it cannot be turned off Plenty of folk have tried but failed. However, the bongs you had at start are easily cured. Just click your seat belt on BEFORE starting the car 👍. Peter.
2.1 kw/h is really good I get half of that in the states that will give you around 10 mph of charge 10 hours overnight 80 miles all it takes is for or five days and you’re caught up fully charged, sounds shitty but that’s not a bad charge rate I would not have got a level two if I had what you have unless you drive more than 100 miles per day
The US has 110V with continuous max of 8-10A on a standard circuit. In all of Europe (and UK) we have 220-240V continuously rated at 13A. So we can charge at more than double the rate off a granny charger. Additionally, since the car is "on" to charge then there is "wasted" charge keeping the car awake and the inverter loss (about 5-10%) which means domestic rates of charge in the US are very slow. It is practical in Europe to charge from a "Granny" charger, but not really in the USA, get yourself a Nemo socket, or better still a 32A supply if you can.
I can't figure out if you are Scottish or a German who has learned English around Scottish maybe your wife . . I love German villages by the way and Germany in general having lived there in the 90s for four and a half years . Anyway I have ordered one of these cars get it in a few month looking forward to it
We had a test drive a few days ago and the car is so noisy not only road and wind but also when stopped the electric motors give off a constant noise. Sorry couldn’t live with it.
Did you try turning off VESS? This is the virtual engine sound that you can switch on, because normally it's too quiet for pedestrians to hear to coming..
Are you Douglas Murrays brother you look the same speak the same and have the same mannerisms and the same sense of humour bye I like douglas your so similar😅
Ich weiß ja nicht, ob die Batterieelektrischen Autos wirklich die Zukunft sind, theoretisch sind die Brennstoffzeller (Wasserstoff) ja viel besser für die Umwelt (weil kleinerer Akku, und keine Kraftwerke erforderlich für Strom), aber ob die Technik dann besser ist, wird sich herausstellen. Ich hätte kein Problem damit, wenn die ganzen Standard Vierzylinder in Zukunft Elektroautos wären, aber einen Mercedes V6/V8 oder einen BMW R6 will ich schon gerne fahren...
@@dukeofhuzza H2 lohnt nur ab LKW aufwärts (Statdbusse, Regionalbahnen) und auch dann nur, wenn Wasserstoff als Nebenprodukt der chemischen Industrie "übrig" ist, im PKW macht das IMHO keinen Sinn: Autos zu teuer, Wartung zu teuer und Wirkungsgrad... reden wir nicht drüber ,-)
Solange wir grauen Wasserstoff (wird aus Erdgas gewonnen) in Deutschland tanken, kann er nicht besser sein, als ein BEV. Hinzu kommen die extrem hohen Kosten für Wasserstoff. 9,50€ pro kg. Wohl gemerkt gesponsort. Der reelle preis dürft ca. beim dreifachen liegen. Somit rechnet sich das ganze nicht. Was nützt eine Förderung, wenn man als Nutzer den unterhalt nicht aufbringen kann. Ein weiterer Nachteil ist die wartungsintensive Brennstoffzelle. Gerade bei den fetten 6 und 8 Zylinder Motoren lohnt sich der Wechsel zum BEV. Alleine wegen der Einsparung an Energie und vor allem Rohstoffen, die diese Motoren gerne zu Hauf verbrennen. Und hier reden wir u.a. von Erdöl, Kobalt, Platin, Palaium u.s.w. Undnmal ganz erlich, es wird Zeit, das Autos leiser werden.
S P that’s a safety hazard. I know there have been instances of electric cars being rear-ended. I wonder if the stop lights not coming on had something to do with it.
had one for 2 weeks it has spent this last week in the garage. They haven't found the problem yet and who knows when we will get it back. To be honest I don't want it back now. Was really sold on this car you will struggle to find a bad word about it anywhere, I have watched all the videos been on all the Facebook groups, can't believe mine has broke down with electrical faults 1 week into ownership. Really pissed off with Kia now.
There is no evidence that electric cars need batteries replacing in 6 years. Several manufacturers, such as Renault and Nissan used to offer battery leasing as people were worried about that problem of needing a new battery after a few years. Even Renault has now dropped battery leasing as it is not needed and there is no problem with batteries needing replacement. The batteries will probably last longer than the car.
The dead battery syndrome is one of the car journalists’ terminal myths. Yes, some batteries might require replacement down the line if not looked after properly/used regularly/maintained correctly/charged suitably etc... the same can also be said of any car engine - mistreat it and it will need rebuilding/replacing... EV batteries cannot and must not be compared to consumer level batteries found in smartphones/domestic devices. They’re built to last!
Gartshore's Garage “Terminal myths” lol! But of course, all batteries will eventually not be able to hold enough charge to justify use in a car. All batteries degrade, even from normal use.
The car battery is like a new phone the battery do well because it new but for a year or so the battery begins going faster and faster until you have to carry it back to them and there is where you start to spend money
The battery in an EV will last for longer then the car itself. This is no problem actually. It will hold less energy after some time, but not by a huge amount.
Look beyond the price, look at the TCO. I test drove the Kia Niro (hybrid) a fine car and €10,000 cheaper her in France than the e-Niro. Then I drove the e-Niro, orders of magnitude better, quicker, easier to drive, smoother, quieter. Yes, I could drive 150,000 km on €10,000 of fuel but I was thinking long term. In our first year of ownership we saved €1,000 on fuel compared to money spent on electricity over 20,000 km. Servicing was also €200 cheaper, no oil or filter changes to worry about. This is for my retirement and I plan to run it for a long time. Leaving aside the environmental benefits and feel good factor of no longer buying fossil fuels, the EV is simply a better all round car.
@@kiae-nirodiaries1279 Exactly and even if it costs more on the Km's compared to a fossil car, it's worth it, the driving is such a better experience, getting from A-B is more than choosing for the cheapest option
The thing with electric car they any volume they are like driving a box with batteries you lift the hood there is nothing to entice you you can’t show off you can’t fix it your self the government can see where you are if the battery sells die it cast a lot to pull from the car or to buy new set for almost the same price as you pay for the car combustible car you can do it your self and don’t cast you too much
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22:27 2.1 KW is the effect with which it charges, it's not per any time unit. In other words it's directly linked to the current as explained by W = V x A
Oh no you promised to try eco plus mode!
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This is the almost perfect review anyone considering buying an EV right now should watch. Perfect to convince most people who might be reluctant to buy an EV. The only thing would be to tell people exactly what to expect for the charging side of things, with a reinforced 16A plug, with a 7.4kw wallbox and from a high speed charger so that they can decide whether or not this is the kind of car they need because I believe it's the most important thing to know about EVs. Other than that, a very comprehensive and honest "review".
Well, that's a first! A comprehensive, intelligent/intelligible, lively, factual/subjective and fun review! We now know what it's like, so well done.
There is a reason for the long waiting list, they are just so good. Very easy to live with now that the range is so high, and charging is relatively easy. Once you have driven one, there is no going back. Kia, 7 year warranty and the quality control shines through.
Thanks for an honest review.
Traded in my 2019 Toyota Camry for a 2021 Niro. Love this car. Quite, zippy, easy to learn the system, and I am getting about 250 miles on a charge. Other than a too too loud back up beep it's perfect.
Got mine a couple of weeks ago. Driving is fun again. The e-Niro is one example of how the future belongs to electric cars. It's comfortable, it's serene. Until you kick the acelerator and unleash that torque. Yes, they are still quite expensive but I cannot imagine for one moment ever going back to an ICE car again. It is just that much better.
What does the acronym ICE stand for?
@@Ronin585 Internal Combustion Engine
@@skyfox77 Thanks You!!
The best way the government can do to promote EV cars is to give free charging at large solar panel fields. Here in the Netherlands we have some and it's a great changer. Early EV owners who missed the purchase bonus also profit from this.
British greedy government will never do that
Thank you for your review, glad to see an ICE car person enjoying an EV with an open mind.
What a privilege to accompany GG on this learning curve. Particularly liked the charging rate observations halfway through and the post 100km waypoint phrases like "That's FAST! - I DO like this car".. and "Being a Scotsman" (14.6Kwh / 100Km)..
I know nothing about GG, but judging by the tyres his charger was sat on - he might be a bit of a petrol head - which makes his conclusions on the E-Niro Sage advice, from an open minded source, who let us follow his learning process. Thank you, Sir. I'm ordering mine right now.
You can come to a full stop without touching the brakes by holding down one of the regeneration paddles on the steering wheel (I don't remember which one, it's become so second nature I don't even realize which one I pull!).
This car is ideal for very long trips actually. The charging network is more developed in most countries than people generally realize. I usually take a short toilet break every two hours or so and charge during that time (usually 15-20 minutes), and this gives me enough additional range to drive the next 1.5 hours or so. When I stop for a meal break every 5 hours or so I can let it charge longer. In the end, you can pretty much go on forever with this method without really having to ever wait while the car is charging at any point.
I think it’s all a matter of getting used to driving that way and ignoring the myths, now old, presented by motoring journalists frightened of the switch to EVs...
The left-hand (increase) regen paddle brings the car to a full stop, where it will stay, even when the paddle is released.
After living 13 years in the Netherlands without a car, we just bought a second hand Renault Zoe 42kWh. I was previously a bit of a petrol head when living in the UK, but this is the best car I have ever owned. This is the future and definitely not dull! My 22 year son is very happy to burn everyone off at the lights, despite the car only being 92 horsepower.
Been a big fan of the UA-cam channel Fully Charged for several years and there they regularly talk about how the grid will cope, etc. Worth watching.
I hope you take the plunge, Fraser, the e-Nero is an excellent car!
We'll be looking at a Zoe soon!
I think I gave watched every single e-Niro review on UA-cam now and this was the last one to see, and wow this was exactly what I was looking for. Every single review talks about the same thing comparing the car to other EV’s and the good and bad. This just hearing from someone who normally would enjoy driving a real car (6cyl or more, like I do) and hear an honest thought was great!
Thank you for an excellent video review or what ever it could be called! Now I have to wait for my e-Niro 😅
Exactly the same thoughts here!
After 14 very satisfying years with Toyota Prius, i even had reserved a Tesla Model 3 in search for the best comprise in a electric replacement. But with the e-Niro 64kWh finally found its true successor.
One of the best car reviews Ive seen, to the point, honest and very useful, thank you.
I've watched 500+ videos before I decided to buy the E-niro, and after having it for 3 weeks now and still in the algorithm of UA-cam, this video came along... Excellent honest video!
A great video and I have ordered a Kia E-Niro 4+ on a lease. I loved your thoughts on the car as it has answered a lot more of my questions I had thought of since ordering. Now it is just waiting 6 months for delivery...
I believe that the best mindset will be charge when you can, so you mainly do top ups, at home and cheaper for day to day running. For longer trips it will be making use of the fast chargers during, coffe/toilet breaks! Also for a longer journey you may not need a full charge to get home, maybe only 15% extra, so with a wall charger back home you could give a reasonable top up overnight.
How is the car? You're driving it now for 4 months if everything went as expected
@@PinballGeorgio loving my E Niro 4+ had it for over 3 months and absolutely loving it. Replaced my Audi Q5 s-line and haven’t missed it at all. The Kia is really comfortable cooled seats are fantastic and range has been great. I have had at least 250 mile range with A/C running and phones charging. Even finished over a 200 mile trip with 86 miles range left!
11kWh AC charge is good and all the gadgets!
@@Jaw0lf I have mine for 3 weeks now and also love it! Coming from a Mercedes Benz C Class estate. I always brake to a complete stop to recuperate to the max and already had 750Km with 66KW used! mostly city traffic, it's amazing and much better then expected. We can charge for free here at groceries stores and more free chargers are coming, so it's very fun to drive and very cheap also!
The only downside is that I noticed that other car drivers wants to push their car between de E-Niro and the one in front of me. With my Mercedes they didn't. Also 80% of the cars stopped behind me at traffic lights and now 80% next to me, because they think they accelerate quicker... haha, also fun every time that they creep behind you because the e-niro is quicker :)
I received my KIA e-Niro a few days ago. Really a great car.
It's the "Spirit" in gravity-blue with 64kWh battery pack, leather-seats and of course the 3-phase-charger.
Greetings from Cologne...
Brilliant car. How long did you have to wait?
@@dukeofhuzza I did have to wait for three months. I signed the contract in mid-june.
A short period of time for an electric car because my KIA car-dealer ordered many e-Niro without having any customers yet. I don't know how other KIA dealers operate.
KIA is not VW, BMW or Mercedes. When you buy a new VW the car will subsequently be build individually for you. KIA builds their cars in South Korea and builds up a pool of new cars from where the dealers can pick them. That's possible because the surcharge list is very small. There are not that many different variants. For example my dealer ordered only cars with the bigger battery pack and 3-phase onboard-charger because he was confident that nobody would buy the smaller battery.
He told me since the subsidy was enlarged by the government nearly 80% of the cars he sells are fully electric or at least plugin-hybrids.
It's a leasing car. My previous car was a KIA Sportage diesel. In june I went to the dealer to order the next Sportage diesel. However at the end of the day I signed a contract for an e-Niro. The monthly costs are roughly the same.
I don't know how long the dealer himself did have to wait for the car. My leasing contract for the Sportage ended last week so I had to wait till then to swap the car.
I hope you understand my rickety english. Warum schreibe ich nicht einfach auf Deutsch?
Interesting video, I reieved my Niro 4+ (UK) a month ago and absoloutely love it, the quiet, smoothness, gadgets and not having to visit petrol stations are just some of the benefits. I have a wallbox but mainly I just plug it in inside my garage at nght and it recharges overnight, fantastic :)
Great video, I was exactly surprised coming from a Mercedes C Class and still in love with this car. Was way more better than I expected!
I also last year(nov 19) had a loaner car for two days from the manufacturer, I started out with 84% drove to London approximately 150 miles, with a 45 minute break and charged which cost me £5.80, got to my destination in London ,plugged it into three pin socket, charged for a few hours, drove it home again another 150 miles got home and had 70 miles left of range. Very capable car for travelling anywhere in the UK 🇬🇧.
I am going to buy one tomorrow. No kidding....I'm convinced....! Thanks for your vid.
I'm not sure if someone commented on charging to 100%. As the battery fills past 80% the Level 2 and Fast DC charge rate drops somewhat (1kW as it nears 100%) so the estimated time to 100% is much longer. Typically you'd keep the maximum charge to 80% or less for your daily driving unless you need the extra range for a long trip. If you set the max charge in the car to 80% you get a much shorter charge completion calculation. Some recommend a 100% charge (don't store the car at 100%!) to balance the cell voltages occasionally . I'm charging to 70% and plug -in the car when needed . With winter coming reducing the car's range I'll go back to 80% or more. Depends on your driving needs. Some can get by with the supplied Level 1 charger which is 1.5 kWh in North America.
Good video, I also tested the eNiro for a day and decided it was the best of the bunch. Unfortunately at the time I was told the wait for a new one would be 10 months, yes that’s correct, 10 months. Well that put an end to that, no matter how good it is I am not waiting 10 months for one.
What are you getting instead? Kona?
No I did not go for a Kona, it seemed cheap on the interior finish for the money and the equipment level was not as good as a Niro. I decided to go on an MG ZS as it was amazing value for money. It has everything fitted as standard equipment. It has everything the more expensive cars have except the extra range. The drive is good, not outstanding but a good all round car, warranty at 7 years is up there with the best, for the money it just can’t be beaten. I look at it as a good filler in, it will suit my needs meantime until such time as the car I really wanted becomes available within a reasonable period of time. I may keep the MG longer because it is fulfilling my needs at the moment and I am pleasantly pleased with it, it does have some silly faults but nothing major, well the adaptive cruise control using friction brakes instead of regen for controlling speed is a glaring fault, you don’t use cruise controls from an ice vehicle on an EV, really, really bad decision from MG.
Can I comment on charging. Yes it is useful to have a wall box as you get about 40 miles/hour. But for "Granny" charging at 10 miles/hour (in Europe) then the point is you leave it to charge over night giving you 80-100 miles (8-10 hours). The point is you are not waiting to charge and your car has a full "tank" every morning. If you are doing less than say 60 miles of driving a day then you can easily use a house charging - and you don't wait to charge - plug each day when you get home and unplug in the morning - Your car has a full tank every day.
(USA is different - they only have 110V at 8-10A and that is a real problem for charging)
If you regularly do more than this mileage a day then I recommend a wall box as you can fully charge most EV's over night. In my case I pay 5p a unit for 4 hours at night which means I can put 120+ miles of charge each night in my car for very little cost.
Wall boxes are better if you go full EV since they are "safer" as house circuits would really need checking if you run a continuous 10-12A - they do get warm especially at the plug. The 32A wall boxes are much higher rated (40A) giving plenty of head room, nothing gets warm.
Second , wall boxes need to be TT (ground earthed) as your car is grounded to earth - while most houses in the world are PME - the earth wire is connected to neutral somewhere - often resulting up to 10V to ground. The granny charger box provides protection - but a wall box is generally considered safer.
I know in parts of Europe (certainly here in Wales) you can get a grant to cover a substantial part of the cost of having a fast charger installed.
@@matthewpenfold1 Yes, it is £400, and so I paid about £150 for my charging point. If you buy a Renault electric you get a free box from renault
I've no plans to go electric in the near future, but I did enjoy looking around Westerwald! Cheers!
Great video. We have the e Niro 4 absolutely love it. I think for the money and yes it’s not cheap but it’s got to be the best bang for your buck at the moment. And like you I also think if more people trued an electric car and stopped listening to the motoring press who are basically sponsored by the car makers and fuel industry who really don’t won’t to both make or sell them they would sell a lot more. We regularly see when fully charged 310 plus miles range on the clock. And boy it’s cheap to run charging from home. Take a leap of faith and buy one I’m sure you will love it.
I would love to take the plunge right now, but with 2 years left on the current lease, I'll have to wait and see what the future brings - with Tesla's news from last week, I guess the competition is going to have get their skates on to catch up!
Really enjoyed your review Fraser. I’ve been following your on your organ channel for a while as I’m an organist myself. I’ve been driving electric cars for a number of years. I loved the lightbulb moments - exactly the same for me when I bought my first Nissan Leaf - particularly the - ‘wait a minute this could be cheaper’ moment 😃 - hope you go for it - you won’t regret it. Ps. Getting a higher rate charger at home is a must. Enjoy 👍
Thanks! I was quite skeptic about the whole thing until I started doing the maths. I’m going to be trying out a few more EVs over the coming months. Getting my hands on a Tesla for testing is proving rather difficult - I may just have to rent one for the weekend! I’ve still got the lease on the Kodiaq until 2022, so I’ve got plenty time to plan my options. Unless I find a deal that’s too good to be true. A second runaround wouldn’t harm too much, would it?!😬
The "Korean Windows" startup sound can be turned off: It is in the menu above your steering wheel. Uncheck the box that says "Welcome Sound" in your driver settings.
This is great news, I'm looking at buying an eniro but that windows start-up sound is a deal breaker! What region, trim (2, 3, 4+) and year car did you find this setting in?
@@bitzulu9508 Model year 21, Advanced. The highest trim available in Denmark, but it should be the same for the “Comfort” trim. Not sure about cars meant for other markets/regions but I would be surprised if they didn’t use the same software everywhere.
@@MovieViking Thanks should be the same here in the UK, will check on the test drive!
I own a Kia E-Soul about 5 months now and I haven’t bought a wall box. I’ve been fine just plugging in with the normal 110V and never had a problem. Over the weekend when I’m home doing nothing it charges to full and I don’t think about it.
I own the car for 3 weeks now and have a Wallbox installed, but here in NL we can charge the car for free at the locally eco grocery store. 2 visits a week 30 minutes charging at 44KW/h and never used the home charging.. It's so cheap! :)
I enjoyed you down to earth honest review. Mine is ordered and hopefully will arrive early in '21.
Great review of the Niro from the perspective of a new EV driver. I have one and The standard house plug will keep you charged with your estimated 300+ kms a week. I have two cars and two three phase chargers in a garage but before those were installed the standard house power worked fine. You also said it isn’t a long distance car, but we travel 380 kms to my sons house in Toronto with one 30 min stop at a fast charger. Time enough to stop for a break and snack. And you are off again. Great review, worth saying twice. I would love to follow you if you only reviewed electric cars but I’ll never go back to gas!!! Thanks.
Ordered one here in Norway at the beginning of september. Being delivered in october - I'm like a child on Christmas morning! Love the car.
For me it's electric or nothing.
You Norwegians! You’ve got, as far as I’ve heard, an amazing EV infrastructure, correct? Something like 60-70% of new cars up there are electric now, is that right? All that silence on the road! Nice! Good luck on the new Niro
@@dukeofhuzza The infrastructure is getting there, but we have a problem that I'm pretty sure is a non-issue in the rest of the world; long queues at fast/rapid chargers 😄
The share of electric cars isn't at quite that level yet, but roughly 50% of all new cars sold are currently BEVs. ICE cars currently hold a market share of around 20% - the rest consists of hybrids and plug-in hybrids. Of all cars in Norway, 7-8% of them are EVs.
I drive a city transit bus that is full electric which has a lot of similar features including the regenerative braking but the annoying thing that took a while to get used to is the noise maker that sounds like someone clipped playing cards on bicycle spokes, and is to alert pedestrians because the electric is so quiet that nobody could hear it approaching. The electric motor doesn't need a transmission like any other vehicle but they also have incredible torque
How many PS per hour does your petrol or diesel car have? ;-) See at 22:30.
Kilowatt is kilowatt. It's the charging power. In one hour while charging constantly with 2 kW you get 2 kWh of energy in your battery on that "granny socket" ;-)
Over night, in 10 hours with 2 kW constant charging you get 20 kWh of energy into the battery. That's about 100 km of driving or more or less depending on how you drive. It's more like 150 km of driving around on country roads like you did or it's 100 km with about 120 km/h on the Autobahn. (For daily commuting, plugging into that granny socket over night every other day might be enough).
So yes, you said it, with a 3 phase adapter you get more charging power, with 16A you get 11kW - if the car can use 3 phase AC charging - not all can do that or it might be an option you must select when buying a car. So in 5 or maybe 6 hours (it tapers off on the high end) on 11kW you get 55 kWh in your battery and it should be full by then. So you can charge it completely during a short night.
On a highway you use the 100kW fast chargers and please don't charge with a cold battery there because charging will be really slow with most EVs. So don't charge in the early morning on a fast charger - charge in the evening while the battery is still warm on a fast charger - or charge over night on 11kW AC. Or top up over night on that granny charger if that's enough for the next day anyway.
In short:
Use more power when you are in a hurry or use less and charge over night when you don't need so much.
But I still don't drive an EV. There is no need to hurry and many companies don't produce that many EVs anyways for everyone to get one.
So if it fits, it's OK. If it does not fit, well, no problem. There's no need to hurry.
Your question about 2.1 kW per what unit of time (hour/day/etc) slightly misunderstands what a kW is.
Think of water. kW is the rate of water flow, kWhr (kilowatt hours) is the total amount of water. So, the 2.1 kW rate of power flow means that in one hour, you would have amassed an extra quantity of 2.1 kWhr, in one day, it would be (2.1 x 24 =) 50.4 kWhr and so on.
Hope this helps. Thanks as always for the excellent content on this and your organ channel.
Not watched the whole thing yet, but my heart went out to Fraser when I saw his look of disappointment at the prospect of 6½ hours to take the car from 85% capacity back to 100% fully charged. One of the strange things about LIPo batteries is that they don't charge at a linear rate. You'd get back to 95% charge capacity in about 4 hours, then the last 5% would take a further 3 hours more. The kW rating that Fraser saw, would reduce over time, as the charge-rate dropped off towards 100%. The interesting thing for me (I am an engineer, so I enjoy stuff like this and do not have a social life) was the current draw indication on the plug in charger unit. If that shows 10A, then the supply voltage must have been around 210 volt (Watts = Volts x Amps, see..).
The better solution If Fraser has an existing 3 phase supply in his garage, then a 3 phase 7.2kW charger would definitely re-charge the car back from something as low as 20% capacity back up to 85% capacity, in a little over five hours. Or in 50 minutes, from a 100A supercharger on the Autobahn.
Great review! Refreshing with a different approach than most car reviews. Keep up the good work. Let's see some of the more affordable EVs get reviewed now.
Very nice review. I live in Norway, and will receive my new e-Niro this week, trading in my Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid. The hybrid is not the best of both worlds, it's a little bit of each. Short EV-range, especially during the winter, high petrol consumption on longer trips, and two different engines working together, where things can go wrong.
I bought the e-Niro because it looks like a car, not a design studio with an iPad glued to the dashboard... And because it's a spacious car with a good price and long range.
In Norway, KIA is sold with a 7-year full warranty, the charging network is good, and I'm really looking forward to the new car. :-)
You’re so much more advanced regarding charging networks than here in Germany. If you don’t drive a Tesla you really need to plan your journeys with care. Things are getting better, but are nowhere near good enough for the near future.
@@dukeofhuzza Any EV can now charge using a Tesla charger.
Great review sir!. For the people thinking about buying a EV this is really helpful. To add to your video where you show the home charging above 80%. The fastest charging, also from home, is between battery capacity 20-80%. Above it slows down. So the number you showed can be misleading. The VESS button is the Virtual Engine Sound System. Is a law thing since 2020 I believe. It makes a virtual engine sound up to 30km/h for pedestrians to hear you coming.
Love electric. Mine arrives tomorrow!!
Lucky you!
I like how you review it on a more personal level. Nice video! Also, when is the next organ video coming out? I like those too. :)
Coming later this week.
very nice review. learned a lot. had a lot fun too. thanks
I live in an apartment that has no charging stations so electric is not an option. Wanted to comment though about the Kia build quality as I ended up buying a regular Niro hybrid. I now have 52000km on it without one single thing going wrong with it. Like the electric I average much better energy consumption than Kia says. Around town I have gone1000km on a tank, or 3.9 l/100 km. My point is all forms of the Niro are fun to drive, reliable, get better consumption than the advertised energy ratings and are great to live with day to day as their interior packing is very intelligent.
Totally right, Kia is very honest with the range and even on the 'safe' site. With my E-Niro and 80% city usage and using always full recuperation when coming to a full stop, I had 800Km with a full 66KW load! Really!
Really good review, really enjoyed it 👍
Thank you so much for this honest review! This is exactly what most people want to know. How it drives in daily use, how quick it is when you need it for taking over or a fun sprint at a stoplight! It's also very quiet and I didn't know it could do little bends on the road when you put on adaptive. Really nice video and thank you so much! 👌🏻👍🏻 You've got another subscriber 😀
Thank you Jeff. There will be more EV reviews coming soon. I dare say I'll also be adding one to the fleet one day down the line!
@@dukeofhuzza oh that's really nice!! Looking forward to see more reviews X 👌🏻👍🏻
@@dukeofhuzza oh and by the way. I'm going to private lease an Kia Niro so that's why I ended up watching your video. 😉
@@jeffvdveen Here also and now very happy with it!
So the regular niro is already a hybrid then they have a phev and then the full bev. The car had intentions of being all three fro the get go but because you had two versions with a gas engine they weren’t going to be able to give a frunk. But i think Kia did an amazing job with this car in terms of comfortability usability tech and affordability for a very efficient vehicle. As an owner of a niro phev i can also attest to the car over preforming in mpgs as well
You can buy an aftermarket frunk from an Austrian company. I'm planning to After a while 😄
I own a Toyota Hybrid, nice to have best of both and you still save money on petrol :D
I live in the USA and am considering a Niro hybrid. I would purchase an EV, but charging stations are not widely available right now in my region. Thank you for this channel and these reviews.
You might want to wait for the new model.
A big hi to your better half in the car with you🤗 She got you off to a good start. I like that car, not sure it would suit 2 adults and almost 2 teenage boys for comfort? Great review, I actually want to go wherever that is on holiday, lovely houses nice countryside and the roads as you described well they are normal here. Anyway great job, you and Ronan Atkinson should have a meet up.
Plenty of room for four full-sized adults + small child, or 2+3 family.
Easily. It's even roomier in the back! Longer wheel base than a Qashqai AFAIK, that's why.
At the moment I drive a Kona Electric as of next year it’ll be the Kia Niro. Our Kona is 2 years old and on a trade in we are getting £31,000 that’s not to short of what I paid. As i got £4000 grant and the car price increase before pick up by £1000. BEVs are not loosing value to any great extent. Changing the car is for us a no brainer! Charging on a fast charge at home is easy overnight.
I can’t drive 300 miles without a pit stop. I just plan the pit stop at a charge location. Normal everyday driving the Kia is more than capable and more to the point, for me at least, I’m not belching out filthy I.C.E fumes and that I believe is something we all should be thinking more about. If not for us then for our Grandchildren, so if money isn’t the major problem then it shouldn’t be part of the decisions.
I knew you'd love it. You began skeptical and ended thinking about money.
About the lease: it makes double the sense because in 3y time the technology will have evolved and you can get a better one if you want to.
Check the Zoe it is also a great car and of course, the fun Tesla. If you are adventurous, check the Chinese ones.
We shall see! The lease on the Skoda Kodiaq lasts 2 more years - that should give the market time to expand suitably! Will it be a Tesla? Watching their news from this week makes it seem quite likely that a lot of people will be heading their way in the future - at the same time, other marques will be catching up and the infrastructure will improve significantly (and myths will hopefully dissolve!), so I am excited to see what it will be!
When EVs were all 80-100 miles they were a bit challenging outside of everyday running around. But now with 200 or more miles range its a doddle to run as an only car household. We have been electric car only for 7 years and with a new eSoul (same battery and drivetrain as the eNiro) its easy on long trips. Just returned from Glasgow (550 miles each way) and it really was painless. Drove at motorway speeds and easily got 220 miles with 23 miles left, then lunch and a top up (45 minutes) and then a coffee/loo break for 20 minutes later on got us to Glasgow. Now if you drove more than say 250 miles everyday it might be slightly different but for everyone else doing 3 or 4 longer journeys a year its not an issue. All the myths around EVs are from 5 or more years ago. Modern EVs are now essentially just like any other equivalent car, but quicker and cheap to run. Still like old classic cars, and they will continue, but for normal use its all but over.
I'm beginning to realise that all the old myths regarding EVs, like you say, are now ancient and are only being kept alive by ardent motoring journalists (and those who believe every word they say) afraid of their futures! I'm currently monitoring all our "normal" driving and I'm finding it difficult to find any reasons to agree with the nay-sayers. My first foray into the world of EVs last week has been haunting me!
I'll be looking at a PHEV soon for the channel to see if that's the current answer for regular long-distance driving. As you say, for normal everyday use, an EV is proving hard to beat...
I have the E-Niro 2020. It’s a great car. The problem with PHEVs is that as the battery is so much lower capacity, they cannot be charged at very high fast DC charge rates. Also, as the electric range is small, yet still requires a longish charge time so folks often tend to not bother to charge them up as they can just drive on ICE fossil power alone.The issue then is that if a PHEV is not frequently plugged in, it becomes quite inefficient (less efficient than ordinary hybrids!). So IMO PHEVs area non starter. They are just too slow to charge and it’s all too too easy to just run on ICE alone and forego the plug in charging. Peter
presently i drive a 2011 Opel Ampera, but i think the Kia e-niro will be my next car
Wow nice video and nice English accent for a sauerkraut
I only live in Germany - I'm from the UK!
Hullo,I am English,many years in Germany,and waiting for my ordered E Niro,so in the last couple of Months I soak up all the U Tube Videos on E Vs.so far I have only had a trial Run in a Kia E Soul(Same platform and assisten systems)as there was not an E Nieo available.We ordered Blind but I am now sure it was a good gamble.we hope to receive our car in 2020( December)or Jan 21.Keep up the Info it helps to keep us interested.
You'll love it- I was very impressed indeed. I think i know what my next car will be when the Kodiaq lease runs out! Then again, there's this new Skoda EV on its way, so we shall have to see...
since about 1890 was first electric car if not earlier. So we are late but it will overcome cumbustion engines driven by fosil fuel if only the price is right and the infrastructure is good enough.
Brilliant review!
i turn on and off my car every 10-15 minutes while on my job, i know it drains my gas, will it drain my battery? and total miles driven each day is about 200miles...should i get a full EV or stick with hybrid?
It will not drain the battery. I actually own the car in the video and in harsh winter conditions (I live in Norway where we have between -30 - +5c during winter) the car will do around 200 miles. In summer temperatures it will go 300 miles. This will vary based on the speed limits where you live. More speed uses more energy, just like a car with a gasoline engine. I would never buy a hybrid over a EV, but that depends i guess.
@@feitola i dont have time to burn during the days when im working to stop and find a place to charge and wait 30minutes. so im thinking hybrid might be better suited for me... i havent decided.. decisions decisions 🤔🤔🤔
So the regular wall socket is plenty for most people as it will add 13km of range every hour for 8 hours that's over 100km a day. You only need to replenish the miles you use each day. You don't have to charge it from empty to full every night, unless you drive the full range every day. Most people drive less than 100km a day.
My mothers uses the regular wall outlet and we live in the US and she get half the mileage added because of the different electric grid. You only need the 3 phase if you drive farther than your normal home time can't recharge the range you use at 13 km an hour for each hour you are home.
Good point - I was assuming people just wanted to run the battery down to around 10% before charging it again - apparently that's the best way to ensure a long battery life rather than topping it up every 24 hours or so...
Anyone out there with any experience of that?
@@dukeofhuzza most batteries don't like 100% all the time. In the Niro you can set it to charge to 80% or 90% and charge it to that everyday and it will be just fine.
The way your were thinking about charging is why some people complain about charging times, they think that they will only charge it once or twice a week and then they will have some emergency and will have to wait for the car to charge. Keeping the car charger between 50% and 80% is recommended. And not letting it drop below 30%. Helps maintain the batttery, but when you need the full range like you are going to take a long trip you can charge to 100% and run it down to 10% and then dcqc to 80% and drive quit far.
@@dukeofhuzza It depends on the car. Many cars such as BMW I3 and Audi etron, and I think the Niro have a hidden top and bottom buffer, so when the indicator says 100% it is really around 90% charged. With those cars you do not have to think about charging too high. Others such as Tesla or Nissan Leaf allow you to charge fully up to the actual capacity, and you are encouraged to only charge up to 100% if you then immediately start your journey. Tesla has a convenient setting for daily or 'trip' use. In actual usage the principle is ABC. Always Be Charging. You just get into the habit of always plugging in every time you come home. It only takes a few seconds.
Great job. One of the most complete and detailed videos I have seen on the new 2020 Kia e-Niro. The previous model did not charge in DC beyond 77 kW, does the 2020 Kia e-Niro charge 100 kW? I know that the previous model charged in AC at 7.2 kW, does this Kia e-Niro 2020 charge at 11 kW? Do you usually drive in ECO mode? How much autonomy do you have?
AFAIK, still 77kW max from DC, 11kW from AC now (higher spec models). ECO mode is what I use it in. If you floor the "gas" pedal, it still shoots out like rocket (not slower than in Sport Mode). Sport mode just makes the pedal more sensitive to small movements in my view.
@@st4849 Thanks ...👍👍
@@st4849 You're right, but the steering also changes with the modes. Normal mode, does give me the best steering response.. In Eco it's a bit sloppy and too easy to turn.
Vert few negatives with electric, except the initial cost. A lease can overcome that as running costs a lot lower. As they are so cheap you will always drive in sport mode ! If you dont need the size the new Zoe is fantastic.
We are hopefully testing a Zoe soon...
28:37 I love this statement :D
One suggestion to everybody to be 100% honest if you do not have a place to plug-in at night or while you sleep I would stick with a hybrid. Supercharging still takes too long and is too expensive although still cheaper than petrol. But if you have a place to plug in,There’s nothing better for performance and money saving than an EV, and the whole thing about everybody overwhelming the grid. Let’s talk about Norway, 60% of their registered vehicles are EV’s. Or 60% of cars sold one or the other
Hybrid must be the worst thing to own. Either yo go Plugin Hybrid or fully electric.
I live in Norway, and am waiting for my e-Niro, trading in my 2 year old Mitsubishi Outlander hybrid. Hybrid (or plugin hybrid) is not the best of both worlds, it's a little bit of each. Very short electrical range, especially during the winter, high gas consumption on long trips, and two different engines where something can go wrong.
BTW: 50 % of NEW cars sold in Norway are fully electric.
@@reidarstgard849 that is cool that 50% of new cars sold are EV‘s in Norway but 90% of the cars on the road there are still gas vehicles or maybe even 95% but for a small country you guys are doing a lot and you remain a role model for the rest of the world.thank you
Hey that sound that comes on with the VESs it stays on till about 8 miles an hour it’s just a low speed warning because the car is so quiet.
The crazy thing new in the states we cannot turn that off. My car does not have that button 😳😳🤯🤯
If this video is 5 minutes or 10 at the most, I will definitely watch it, as I plan to have one of these .Thanks
I have had one of these things about eight months now 10,000 miles, yep a yank. I’m in central California I think they’re much more plentiful here since I drove less than 100 miles to pick one up. I love it so far it’s got some different little quarks but to get close to 300 miles and it’s about as quick as you want it to be and when you plug in at night it’s wherever you said it in the morning I have had zero issues so far knock on wood I enjoy your channel new subscriber send us a little bit of your rain would you please if you’ve got any
Mine hasn't got any quarks at all, but plenty of strangeness and charm!
I’m puzzled by your comment, “buying the Niro doesn’t make sense” surely the leasing company has to make money, they won’t buy Nero EVs at a big discount as Kia can easy sell all they make. Leasing makes sense for companies as they set the lease against tax and leasing is good for those who can’t afford the full price. If one can buy outright without fiancé then in my opinion buying is the best option, as I did with our Kona. We have lost over the two years less than the cost of leasing the car. To lease over the last two year would have cost £7900 that’s way more than two years depreciation on our Kona Electric
You're right - buying it doesn't make sense to me - that's what I was implying in the video - as a freelancer, it would make a lot more sense to lease for me. See yesterday's video - I actually go over that exact point!
Gartshore's Garage
Your last Vlog hadn’t arrived, it has now and I can see you self employed. Enjoy your Vlogs even if I don’t always agree with you. 👍🇬🇧
Wouldn’t life be very dull if we all agreed all the time!
more car rerviews pls!
Sure thing!
@@dukeofhuzza more of Gartshore's Garage in general! :-)
You are amazing
Nice choice
Sounds great - for the Westerwald. Wonder how long it would last east of the Carpathians with our unsurfaced roads, temperatures varying between -25C and +35C and 30 cms of snow. Of course not everyone needs to carry cinder blocks and cement, animal feed or firewood but surely most people need to take a sack of garden rubbish to the tip or visit Ikea occasionally. Plus, if it is leased, you can't make any changes to rectify the design failings that are inevitable when the designers sit in an office all day.
I think there are a whole lot of better vehicles out there to tackle such terrain - I can’t imagine anyone considering a Korean Crossover for that kind of work. An Unimog is what you’re looking for!
@@dukeofhuzza I forgot to mention my 1600 mile trips across Europe a couple of times each (normal) year. Freelander does it all, but it's diesel and therefore a curse upon the civilised world!
Nothing wrong with a good old diesel - ignore the propaganda!
If you charge in fast charges only to 73%, it Will charge at 50kW, in a 50kW charger. After that it will starts to be slow
You can not turn off the Startingsound! Nice Review 👍
I'm sure there's a way - deep down in the car's programming - there's bound to be an "off" option there somewhere! Probably only accessible through shop software...
Correct it cannot be turned off Plenty of folk have tried but failed. However, the bongs you had at start are easily cured. Just click your seat belt on BEFORE starting the car 👍. Peter.
For 85 % charged battery the charging is always slow. Even people chrage to 80% usualy because more is to much slow and even not good for battery.
2.1 kw/h is really good I get half of that in the states that will give you around 10 mph of charge 10 hours overnight 80 miles all it takes is for or five days and you’re caught up fully charged, sounds shitty but that’s not a bad charge rate I would not have got a level two if I had what you have unless you drive more than 100 miles per day
The US has 110V with continuous max of 8-10A on a standard circuit. In all of Europe (and UK) we have 220-240V continuously rated at 13A. So we can charge at more than double the rate off a granny charger. Additionally, since the car is "on" to charge then there is "wasted" charge keeping the car awake and the inverter loss (about 5-10%) which means domestic rates of charge in the US are very slow.
It is practical in Europe to charge from a "Granny" charger, but not really in the USA, get yourself a Nemo socket, or better still a 32A supply if you can.
Tom55data o ya I use an adapter with my Tesla plug with a 14-50
I can't figure out if you are Scottish or a German who has learned English around Scottish maybe your wife . . I love German villages by the way and Germany in general having lived there in the 90s for four and a half years .
Anyway I have ordered one of these cars get it in a few month looking forward to it
Actually you will save 100€ more in Germany (6.100€) beause of the built in VESS (Virtual Electronic Sound System)
We had a test drive a few days ago and the car is so noisy not only road and wind but also when stopped the electric motors give off a constant noise. Sorry couldn’t live with it.
Weird - I found it bizarrely, even eerily quiet, even on the road. Different tyres?
noisier than benzin/diesel? lol
Did you try turning off VESS? This is the virtual engine sound that you can switch on, because normally it's too quiet for pedestrians to hear to coming..
Did you leave the door open? It's a very quiet car!
Had you turned off the pedestrian warning noise?
some research before hand would of been good
At 18:37 did you get smacked for impersonating your wife while forgetting she was the one holding the camera? 😂😂😂😂
VESS = Virtual Engine Simulation Sound
Are you Douglas Murrays brother you look the same speak the same and have the same mannerisms and the same sense of humour bye I like douglas your so similar😅
Go take a RAV4 Plugin Hybrid for a spin. It's very impressive.
I've been wondering about PHEVs - are they really that good?
@@dukeofhuzza yes, that RAV4 drive magnificent and economical and still a beast with 306 PS
With the RAV4 Prime no heat when outside temp reaches -10C if driving in electric mode. To get heat, the car will revert to gas engine mode.
Ich weiß ja nicht, ob die Batterieelektrischen Autos wirklich die Zukunft sind, theoretisch sind die Brennstoffzeller (Wasserstoff) ja viel besser für die Umwelt (weil kleinerer Akku, und keine Kraftwerke erforderlich für Strom), aber ob die Technik dann besser ist, wird sich herausstellen. Ich hätte kein Problem damit, wenn die ganzen Standard Vierzylinder in Zukunft Elektroautos wären, aber einen Mercedes V6/V8 oder einen BMW R6 will ich schon gerne fahren...
Wasserstoff Autos wären die perfekte Alternative, wenn nur die Regierungen mehr investieren würden...
@@dukeofhuzza H2 lohnt nur ab LKW aufwärts (Statdbusse, Regionalbahnen) und auch dann nur, wenn Wasserstoff als Nebenprodukt der chemischen Industrie "übrig" ist, im PKW macht das IMHO keinen Sinn: Autos zu teuer, Wartung zu teuer und Wirkungsgrad... reden wir nicht drüber ,-)
Solange wir grauen Wasserstoff (wird aus Erdgas gewonnen) in Deutschland tanken, kann er nicht besser sein, als ein BEV. Hinzu kommen die extrem hohen Kosten für Wasserstoff. 9,50€ pro kg. Wohl gemerkt gesponsort. Der reelle preis dürft ca. beim dreifachen liegen. Somit rechnet sich das ganze nicht. Was nützt eine Förderung, wenn man als Nutzer den unterhalt nicht aufbringen kann. Ein weiterer Nachteil ist die wartungsintensive Brennstoffzelle.
Gerade bei den fetten 6 und 8 Zylinder Motoren lohnt sich der Wechsel zum BEV. Alleine wegen der Einsparung an Energie und vor allem Rohstoffen, die diese Motoren gerne zu Hauf verbrennen. Und hier reden wir u.a. von Erdöl, Kobalt, Platin, Palaium u.s.w.
Undnmal ganz erlich, es wird Zeit, das Autos leiser werden.
ralle Stand 2020. Forschung hat kein Ende...
Sven Schmolke Stand 2020 :)
I thought its against the law drive without hands on steering wheel
I think Tesla drivers might disagree!
Actually it's not against the law in Europe. Only an advice to keep your hands on the wheel all time
Do the stop lights come on when regen is engaged?
No
S P that’s a safety hazard. I know there have been instances of electric cars being rear-ended. I wonder if the stop lights not coming on had something to do with it.
Yes and no, It depends on how hard the regenerative breaking is set to.
@@Alrukitaf If they have been rear ended the car behind is the one at fault, they should keep distance and focus on the road.
RememberVery good
had one for 2 weeks it has spent this last week in the garage. They haven't found the problem yet and who knows when we will get it back. To be honest I don't want it back now.
Was really sold on this car you will struggle to find a bad word about it anywhere, I have watched all the videos been on all the Facebook groups, can't believe mine has broke down with electrical faults 1 week into ownership.
Really pissed off with Kia now.
That can happen to any new car, may I ask what happened to you car? cant drive at all? Does It start when pressing start button?
@@skyfox77 No answer, probably a Tesla Fanboy :)
Potential negative - battery replacement in say 6-10 years?
There is no evidence that electric cars need batteries replacing in 6 years. Several manufacturers, such as Renault and Nissan used to offer battery leasing as people were worried about that problem of needing a new battery after a few years. Even Renault has now dropped battery leasing as it is not needed and there is no problem with batteries needing replacement. The batteries will probably last longer than the car.
Andrew Trimble yeah ok 10 years. Perhaps 8 if you’re traveling a lot and fast charging a lot.
e-Niro Taxi, 50k miles (80k kms), DC fast charged approx every 2nd day, battery still 100%: ua-cam.com/video/oJx0bCWyabs/v-deo.html
The dead battery syndrome is one of the car journalists’ terminal myths. Yes, some batteries might require replacement down the line if not looked after properly/used regularly/maintained correctly/charged suitably etc... the same can also be said of any car engine - mistreat it and it will need rebuilding/replacing... EV batteries cannot and must not be compared to consumer level batteries found in smartphones/domestic devices. They’re built to last!
Gartshore's Garage “Terminal myths” lol! But of course, all batteries will eventually not be able to hold enough charge to justify use in a car. All batteries degrade, even from normal use.
The car battery is like a new phone the battery do well because it new but for a year or so the battery begins going faster and faster until you have to carry it back to them and there is where you start to spend money
The battery in an EV will last for longer then the car itself. This is no problem actually. It will hold less energy after some time, but not by a huge amount.
@@feitola 20 percent degradation after 800 000km. 800 000KM!!!
Nice review, but you got some misinformation going. The battery is not at the front, but actually under the floor as with most proper electric cars!
I was actually referring to the 12V battery in the engine bay... I did mention the EV batteries being low down to help with the centre of gravity...
Wow you’re so cute
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Still electric cars have one big disadvantage, the price.
Yes, but are cheaper to run, and cheaper maintanence
Look beyond the price, look at the TCO. I test drove the Kia Niro (hybrid) a fine car and €10,000 cheaper her in France than the e-Niro. Then I drove the e-Niro, orders of magnitude better, quicker, easier to drive, smoother, quieter. Yes, I could drive 150,000 km on €10,000 of fuel but I was thinking long term. In our first year of ownership we saved €1,000 on fuel compared to money spent on electricity over 20,000 km. Servicing was also €200 cheaper, no oil or filter changes to worry about. This is for my retirement and I plan to run it for a long time. Leaving aside the environmental benefits and feel good factor of no longer buying fossil fuels, the EV is simply a better all round car.
@@kiae-nirodiaries1279 Exactly and even if it costs more on the Km's compared to a fossil car, it's worth it, the driving is such a better experience, getting from A-B is more than choosing for the cheapest option
I think if everyone in the country turned on their oven all night, the grid WOULD collapse.
And the Energy companies will have a massive gain in income before the collapse and will invest more in the network to gain even more! That's economy!
The thing with electric car they any volume they are like driving a box with batteries you lift the hood there is nothing to entice you you can’t show off you can’t fix it your self the government can see where you are if the battery sells die it cast a lot to pull from the car or to buy new set for almost the same price as you pay for the car combustible car you can do it your self and don’t cast you too much
there is an argument with regards your battery point, the batteries in an electric car tend to have an 8 to 10 year warranty so they cost nothing
You're against 5G and Covid vaxxins also I guess?
You got board with electronic car easy because there is nothing to intertane you
Naming a car after an emporer who murdered his citizens isn't the best marketing plan.
DO you mean nEro?