It's simple...Curry went from guarding Dellavedoa to guarding Kyrie. He went from guarding a backup PG to guarding one of the most skilled players of all-time. He went from saving energy on defense to having to stay in front of the greatest ball-handler of all-time. Anyone who played or understands basketball knows that tired legs from having to guard a great offensive player, especially for a shooter, has the biggest impact on how well someone plays on the offensive end.
+DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest Maybe that's because Curry didn't get to play Kyrie every game. Hopefully they start calling moving screens and hand checks on y'all cheaters. Glad y'all lost, and more glad that LeBron beat them. Something Golden State couldn't do against a healthy cavs team
It's amazing how in a matter of just one postseason and a few weeks of the offseason, Stephen Curry went from comparisons with Michael Jordan or better to the biggest choker probably in NBA history and the most overrated nba player in a long time, Kevin Durant went from the most beloved and heroic player in recent years to the least clutch and most hated and upsetting traitor probably in NBA history, LeBron went from the most hated NBA superstar who couldn't win without loads of help to possibly the most amazing finals performance possibly ever. We also lost Kobe, Timmy, and now we might lose KG all in one season.
+Well Shishio Maybe you should appreciate someone who does leave their basement and observes rather than assume I don't. when was the last time the league's villain turned into a hero, the league's unstoppable poster child turned into an overrated choker, the league's recent hero turns into the villain, and two of the biggest legends retire in just one season, or really a matter of a few months?
1) Curry was barely on Lebron so of course Lebron barely scored on him 2) Curry was 1-12 with Lebron as his primary defender 3) The Cavs literally ran whoever offense on Curry... whoever offense is not run of " elite " defenders.. lmfao
the amazing thing about this comment thread is the video shows a complete breakdown of basketball and the comments are still filled with wild shit from casual fans who know nothing about basketball
+DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest lol if it was lebron inconsistent hes trash asf. U sayin he inconsistent but last time i checked he was playing good almost every game but the finals. Even steve kerr said hes 100%
Well Coach you've outdone yourself again and even though there are a ton of comments on this video that hate you for your analyzations, I for one enjoyed it greatly. This was a great video and personally helped me see how analytics can bring out the best in the game. Keep up the good work!!!
No one's hating on Coach Nick. Those were biased LeBron fans that have all left in fear of Durant signing with the Warriors. They're changing their profiles to Warrior graphics instead of rooting for the destruction of this team and what it will mean for LeBron's legacy.
He's had two finals appearances. In the first finals he played great. 26 pts, 6.3 assists and 5.2 rebounds on 44.3% shooting, and a 58.5 TS%. That's not quite as good as he was in the regular season and playoffs, but still a great finals performance by any reasonable definition. And now in his second of two finals he played poorly relative to the regular season and playoffs. Hardly terrible, as 22.6/4.9/3.7 on 58% TS are still all-star level numbers, just not the same as his regular season numbers.
Baller Baby He shot 40% from 3 and 40% from the field overall in the finals. He had a True Shooting % of 58%. 22.6/4.9/3.7 on 58% TS will make you an All-Star. Those numbers are also deflated because they are 7 games against one of the best teams in the NBA. Dwane Wade had 19/4.6/4.1 on 51% TS and was a starter. Al Horford and a few other also had stat lines worse than Curry's finals performance. And of course Kobe's stats were just laughable. Speaking of Kobe, he had one of the worst finals performances of all-time for a superstar in 2004 - far worse than Curry. 22.6 pts, 2.8 rebounds and 4.4 assists per game, all while playing 46 minutes per game (11 more than Curry due to the blowouts). He also shot 38% from the field and 17% from 3. 17%! He had a TS% of 45%. Players sometimes under-perform. It happens. Here's what's happened the last 2 years for Curry: 2014-15 Regular Season: Amazing 2015 Playoffs: Amazing 2015 Finals: Very good 2015-16 Regular Season: Ridiculous 2016 Playoffs: Great despite 2 injuries 2016 Finals: Good (bad by Curry's standards) And your whole narrative about Curry giving the franchise over to KD is pure fantasy and stupidity. Curry had nothing to do with KD moving. The decision was made by KD and the owners. Is Curry supposed to stop the owners from signing one of the best players in the league?
While Steph Curry's 3 point shooting ability is incredible, these finals proved there is a limit on how much a 6'3" skinny dude with average NBA level athleticism can dominate a professional basketball game. I don't personally believe Curry choked, or that he couldn't handle playing well in the finals. He just can't physically dominate the way that Lebron can. Jump shooters can have the illusion of being the best player in the league or at their position during the regular season but when the playoffs start and the defense gets better, they tend to struggle more than a guy like Lebron or Kobe or other stars who have more well rounded games.
+Knightwing_xX is draymond didn't get suspended, and if Barnes played better it would be over in 5. Everyone else on the Warriors played mediocre during finals
Knightwing_xX Not necessarily. You can have all the confidence in the world and still play terribly because of good defense or just having an off night.
Messi choked on that penalty. He actually plays good in these finals for his National team, his teamates just let him down. He gets like quadruple teamed, then still manages to dribble out of it or leads his teamate with a great pass. He creates this space and his teamates fail to score. Messi ain't gonna score getting quadruple teamed in these finals, so his teamates definitely gotta step up. Tbh they're chokers if anything. Messi does his part. Btw, Messi has won numerous Champions League finals, Copa del rey, etc. Messi ain't no choker. Steph Curry on the other hand is an overrated choker. Nothing more.
+NMC 00 messi is the greatest of all time talent wise . and anyone who blames him for argentina's loss has never watched football or didnt see him play in 09 11 and 12 when he mudered man united twice or when he put 96 goals in a year
we know messi sucks in national team. world cup and copa america, he's not the same man during his stint in national team compare to he's in barcelona. if portugal win this year euro then ronaldo will always be better than him for sure
Steph seems to be a Finals choker. There's really no other way to put it. I have no idea how much his injuries bothered his ability to shoot, dribble, defend, and create plays, but that is not an excuse for playing as poorly as he did the entire finals. I'm a Warriors fan but come on... two consecutive finals, and you play sub-par in both? That's inexcusable. Objectively, Curry seems to fair fine in the first 3 rounds. It's the 4th round that seems to get him. Not sure if he's out of gas or what, but both times (this year and last year), he's played terribly. Also props to Cleveland. They defended him pretty well and obviously got into his head at some point, since he was missing wide open looks.
The stage got too big for him, and he faced a physical defense that was new to him. When his shot started failing him, he made himself useless and harmful to his team, instead of driving and resorting to his playmaking ability. You could tell all the lebron blocks and trash talk got to him. He still has a long way to go before he becomes the face of the nba.
+MD Twomp Yeah, or else i wouldn't have commented. Steph is a finals choker unfortunately. I hope he proves me wrong later on, but from the 2 finals I've seen his play seems to drop off significantly come finals time.
It's really clear watching video of that finals compared to 2015 and 2017 that his lateral movement just wasn't the same. Almost certainly a result of the MCL sprain.
Last year curry didn't get injured in the playoffs, bogut didn't get injured and draymond didn't get suspended. And don't give that curry was injured shit, you just don't injure your knee, miss a month and come back healthy af. Nope, he played like a shadow of his former self through out the rest of the playoffs when he came back, he only had spurts of greatness, he didn't play great all game like he did all season until the knee injury, he either had 1 good quarter or a good couple of minutes. His stats took a dramatic fall, that doesn't happen by coincidence. The cavs got lucky, with injuries and begged for draymond to be suspended.
+sexypimpking Curry said himself he was fine and the injury had no part in his performance. Draymond should've been suspended in the OKC series and the Cavs also had an unhealthy Kevin Love. Fact of the matter is that GS choked.
I don't know why Warriors fans have to keep making stupid excuses like Curry being "injured", or Draymond Greene getting himself suspended for liking balls. They just didn't show up and they got punished for it, why do you have to make excuses for them when he admits himself he was fine. Your inability to show any respect to the Cavs for winning shows your lack of knowledge about the game (because most warriors fans just started watching basketball last year).
+sexypimpking lillard dropped 50 curry wasnt injured. Curry once went 6-19 from 3 wasnt injured. U cant be sayin he was injured no excuses. U cant have a great game everytime. Kyrie exposed him. Faxxxxxx, hes always done it faxxxxxx. When cavs lost last year what yall say. Oooo lebron sucks. No excuses. It was just a knee sprain. Nothin big
kyrie is not better than Steph just stop living in the moment Kyrie can't lead a team like steph just remebered Kyrie before lebron couldn't even make the playoffs lol Steph is a scoring champ 2 time Mvp Nba champ and lead his team to a 73-9 record Kyrie wouldn't be in this situation if it wasn't for Lebron
+Max Carter Curry is not better than Kyrie, stop bandwagoning Curry can't be effective in the finals like Kyrie, his teammates had to carry him Kyrie is able to guard curry but curry can't guard Kyrie
Great breakdown! That was incredible and well commentated analysis of Curry's numbers, really helped me understand why Steph and the Warriors just broke down.
Lol. All these people saying "gimme yo ring" are the same sus ass people who shat on LeBron last year. I guess people can't take what they give. Weak AF.
Vergel Cayabyab I was a Curry fan last year.. And yes lebron is the best right now.. I said it last year.. But yall are trying to shit on my favorite player like he isn't great as well
Why do you people believe Steph was hurt? In the 9 games before the finals he played after returning from injury he averaged 29.3pts, 6.4rebs, 6.7asts, 45.8% FG and 40.4%, 3FG... He was obviously not playing hurt.
All Hail The King Lol, of course they're gonna say that? Teams keep their health issues on the low most of the time. Steph was hurt, but Kyrie also took him to school. The dude wasn't 100% and it showed and Cavs took advantage.
Free Gucci Why was he playing as well as usual in the 9 games after returning from injury? Also your argument is that I'm less credible than doctors or trainers yet neither said anything that would disagree with what I stated.
Would anybody be giving Curry the injury pamper treatment if it was Lebron? Nope. The first thing you guys would say, "choke, now hes 2-5" He was up 3-1 and had the tools to get it done. He scored 38 points in game 4, and scored 40 in portland. Tired of the hurt narrative. Also, he never went to get clean up surgery that people suspected on his knee. Its almost like when D Rose got hurt, he was healthy the next season, but D Rose was underwhelming because he lost faith in his body because he was afraid he would get hurt again. Its not like Curry wasnt healthy, he just looked unsure of himself. But alot of things like bad passes, poor shot selection, and silly fouls cost possessions. He was MENTALLY healthy right?? So there should be no excuses. If you arent confident that you will benefit your team and dont feel like you can contribute, dont play. Simple.
The jumping shooting team chose the wrong time to go cold (games 5-7). The 2 time MVP has come up really small the last two finals. You could argue for Kyrie and Draymond being Finals MVP over the unanimous MVP
Did you even watch the Finals? Lebron was clearly the MVP. He led his team back from a 3-1 deficit, had a back to back 41 point game, and clearly dominated the finals. Draymond didn't even play a game. So he will never get mvp regardless. He may be tough but not an MVP option. Many people who don't know basketball say Kyrie should be MVP. Kyrie was great and hit a key shot, but not the MVP. Give props to Lebron and respect his pure greatness.
Did you even read my comment or you just like to see your own words on the screen? I said NOWHERE in my comment that Lebron didn't deserve to be the MVP. He clearly was (I thought this was assumed in my comment). I said that cases could be made for Kyrie or Draymond being MVP over the 2 time, first ever unanimous MVP who, outside of maybe 2 games, was a no show for the NBA Finals. He did the same thing last year even when the Cavs were down 2 of their Big 3
+It's Nick NBA's meaning of MVP is a player that helps their team the most. if steph got injured(like he did in the playoffs) the warriors would be fine. if lebron or PG13 got injured, their teams would do absolute shit. so it seams debatable to me...
Curry wasn't healthy this year just like in December n January when curry abused kyrie , kyrie was just coming back (even though he got to heal for like 7 months)
+DFMixes you can't compare a broken knee cap and out for 7 months to a sprained knee and out for 2 weeks. Curry had like 40 pts his first game back and said "I'm back" sooo???
he was hobbling around the court during the Bulls series. Didnt he say he was out there as a decoy? 2015 game 1 would've been a blowout if kyrie was healthy
Certainly a great video! I think it is worth the breakdown of Kyrie's defense on him though :) . All this talk about how curry 'messed' up, or what was 'wrong' with him. It could be as simple as, as we have seen and said, people figured him out and Ky locked him up. Steph is amazing, no doubt, but yeah... locked.
Honestly, I don't think Curry was exactly injured, but it is clear something was not right and he never was able to get a rhythm. I found it frustrating the amount of times he would ball watch while Klay or Barnes went into some mid range jumper ISO play. Also, to all the people bashing Curry and singing the highest praise of Lebron, lets not forget, Lebron's first two finals were disastrous. Curry is still young enough, and with this new team will have at least 5 more years of great play to prove himself on the biggest stage. Lets just keep everything in perspective, folks.
I think it was him being hurt honestly. He looked completely different after he got hurt during the rockets series. Even during his incredible Portland run, he didn't look how he did in the regular season. His quickness, especially laterally, was off. Got even worse during the OKC match up.
+Lebron “Get Thot's” James you sound exactly like them niggas who said Jordan would never get a ring... Kobe is always gonna be in Shaqs shadow... Well nigga lebron has 8 years pro basketball over Curry but somebody is still 3-4 at the finals... But Curry is supposed to be a choke?
+OffTopic Kamah Man that person is either a child or gets paid to troll around the internet. Notice they always use negative statements to entice a response.
Well.. guess it's a good thing it'll be Klay and DURANT iso'ing next year if they make it. Right? I personally hope LeBron spews Alpha secretion on every Warrior in the vicinity.
***** Even if you are injured you can still have a great game once in a while, consistently doing it is the problem. Just look at Dwyane Wade in 2013-2014, and Tony Parker the last few years. They have were perpetually injured and still managed to have some great games, even though you could easily tell something was wrong with them. It's like that with Curry.
I know Curry played like sh*t these finales, but most the blame has to go to the coach. He literally made no adjustments those last 3 games smh. I knew shit was bad when he let LBJ and Kyrie beat them by themselves (scoring 41 a piece) and all they ran were isolation s most the game. That says alot about the coach
The Malay-American Guy him too, it was literally 4 vs 5 when Barnes was on the court. I feel like Draymond wouldve had his game 7 during game 5 so i agree w you. They shouldve won, but still doesnt take away that Steve Kerr let Lebron and Kyrie score 82 points off of isolations the entire game. Didnt try and double team them or anything.
Oh boy! They are going to FUCKING GO AT HIM this year. ESPECIALLY those who wanted that MVP. Lillard and Westbr.. Oh my God! Westbrook is going to DESTROY HIM.
Coach is telling you Curry was hurt. Everybody knows this. Yall lost some key players but not your star. The games the Warriors won were not attributed to Curry. If LeBron was even hurt in the slightest bit the Cavs wouldn't win the series.
stfu im sick of hearing the injury excuse. He wasn't injured when he came back against the trailblazers. He wasn't injured when they came back against the thunder. Now that they lost he's all of a sudden injured lmao. Fuck off Curry choked and thats all there is to say
Long ago, The two conferences lived together in harmony. then everything changed when the west attacked. Only lebron master of all five stats could stop them. When the warriors needed steph curry most, he vanished. Fifty years passed and lebron discovered a new championship. A ring for Cleveland. although the ring is great, he needs a few more before he can ever be considered the Goat.
I'm a huge Steph fan. But I can also take a step back and look at the fact that he DID underperform and he did NOT show up in the way he was needed in game 7. He had some really good games this series, but the fact of the matter was: yeah he was injured. He didn't look the same for sure (first take didn't let you forget that lol), however, he chose to return and be of help to his team. And he showed enough flashes of his MVP brilliance to lead you to believe that he was playing through it. What I believe was that Curry was more mentally attacked than anything. LeBron and Kyrie got into his head FAR more than Russell or KD ever did. You can just tell..his actions changed. He didn't shoot with confidence. Constantly worried about LeBron's defense and Kyrie's offense. Add on to the fact that he had to play some extremely tough and aggressive defense as well. Steph's low averages don't bother me that much.
The things that really bothered me weren't his low averages, but rather his lack of aggression and anger, his lack of desire to do anything in the midrange (curry has a great midrange game, stepbacks, floaters, you name it), and lack of good decision making (really sloppy passes and not staying completely focused on defense). It's like the pressure for him to be the hero was so much that he actually could feel it on his shoulders (cause let's face it, I always felt like curry just plays ball, he's not trying to be something he ain't, he's not trying to be the golden child or the hero of the league). He'll be fine tho, all the greats have a bad finals series here or there. They'll be fine, especially now that they have another RELIABLE scorer in Durant. That pressure will be off curry, and he'll be able to play like he normally does: ESPECIALLY come playoff time
+BBALLBREAKDOWN I agree definitely. It's another learning experience. He'll come back better because of it. Especially with Durant there to take the load off of him
+BBALLBREAKDOWN Maybe played againist injuried defenders, Delly and Shumpert, helped Curry be aggressive in 2015 final. Both Delly and Shumpert played with serious injuries during the 2015 final, Delly even needed to go to hospital once after a game. BTW, coach, do you know any news about hosptial/surgery for Curry after the final since every Curry fan said he was hurt......
the difference in stats from last year to this year is negligible.... he played like trash in both series, and the difference was his team (A.I., for the most part) couldn't save him this year
***** "lcoekd" alright dumbass, How does 19 points and 6 turnovers shooting 2-15 from the 3 in Game 2 sound? Is that not fucking locked down? Or are you one of the dumb fucking bandwagons who got into ball this year?
A lot of uneducated fans here don't know how tough it is to return early coming off an injury. Less time to rest means the injury will still have its effects on Steph's body throughout the series. Be sensible, Steph wasn't healthy in these series and yes, he did say there's no excuse to what happened, but can you blame him? I'm sure he was playing through pain and still tried his best to contribute to his team. Even his minutes were down in these finals compared to last year's, giving us a clear hint that the staff knew his knees are still bothering him and wanted to rest him as much as they can to preserve his energy.
LOL making excuses. He said he wasn't hurt. He wasn't hurt, he chocked end of story.. Maybe it's because he actually had to play competition. Last year he had a backup pg, this year Kyrie, accept it.
Knicks 4 Life You certainly don't know what it feels like to play through an injury, do you? Of course he said he wasn't injured, if he said he was then you'll still say he's making up excuses for his lack of energy in the court. He's at a lose lose situation so why admit the injury in the first place?
So he says that theres no excuse but you guys still make excuses? You fans were screaming "Hes back" after his game in portland but when it comes to facing the Cavs and losing you wanna bring this up? Honestly the real uneducated fans are the ones who don't get how good of a player Lebron is. He shut Curry down, not just with his blocks but mentally too. Same goes for Kyrie. He was too much for Curry.
Regardless how you feel about Steph playing defense or being injured. This series showed how important Kyrie is. Last year, Steph was guarding Dellevadova and Shumpert who aren't offensive threats so he didn't have to exert effort on the defensive end. If you make him play defense you can atleast wear him down. Seriously tho, he need to stop with this ridiculous behind the back passes tho. He is getting a little too cute with passes and players are ready for them now. Great video and analysis...but at the end of the day, He choked and the Warriors choked...
All in all, the Warriors were up 3-1, they fuckin choked something crazy and lost. They only lost by 4, and they failed to hit multiple open ass shots.
+Timo Cruz Shit I know, but it just is inexcusable how they lost. If you watch the game again, they had so many chances to win it (not including the 3-1 lead). It's just very surprising that they lost and how they really could have one if they just hit two shots.
+Misael V. It shouldn't have been close though. I can never understand how the best regular season team of all time, with the two time MVP, loses when they are up 3-1, which also has never been done in NBA history, at their home. I'm still baffled to this day.
Very simple: Steph Curry choked. AGAIN. Don't believe me? Curry had more turnovers in this Finals series then he did assists. More TURNOVERS than ASSISTS in the Finals. Let that sink in.
So after all the attempts to defend Curry's defense, you'll now admit that when he's forced to defend capable scorers without Klay to cover for him, he got exposed?
No he didnt say that he said that kyrie is a wizard and can score on anyone which is true even when Klay who is one of the best perimiter defenders right now had troubles clamping him up kyrie was just being uncle drew
Truth be told, Bior, no one can guard Kyrie. He can "expose" anyone that guards him. He exposed Clay, and Andre, and both are very great defenders. But a testament to Curry's defense, he didn't lead the nba in steals this year for nothing though...
Agent of Chaos Lol Right because leading the league in a defensive stat doesnt make him a great defensive player. That's like saying oh he led the league in points but he's not a go scorer man smh niggas always wanna hate or greatness man.
All the salty warrior "fans" don't use these excuses: Cavs held/grabbed us on defense! Ooo Noo!1!1!1!!! Curry was injured whole season! We didn't have bogut!?!?!? Was rigged?!?? The cavs just stole ideas from the Warriors, grabbing was Greens and boguts thing. Kyrie AND love was injured last season. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ OKC 3-1
+Trufe so y kyrie averaged 30 steve kerr never lets him gaurd the point gaurd position klay does that. Also he didnt mainly gaurd kyrie,westbrook and damian lillard. Leading in steals doesnt mean you are good at defense.
Yes he is I hate this good damn finals because everybody thinks that people cant habe Bad days. The Three by Kyrie Irving was really taff Curry got his Hand in his face. Everybody says that Lebron was so great ever thought about that the d by the Warriors wasnt that good (just Draymond). Curry is just flamed by everyone because people cant say to themselfs that he is the best Player in the League.
Ok in that case what ahppened in 2011 when lebron didn't show up. wasn't he still the best player in the world. was dirk better then him? Of course not
jerrybronham i really don't gaf because people who actually study basketball say he is the true best in the world last year and KD is joining Stephen Curry's warriors.. KD isn't taking over.. Also if KD is better than Curry how did they win..
Exactly. It was planned LeBron to get payback from last year. It's scripted. OKC was to peak of sending the Warriors home. Do u ppl really believe that 3-1 bullshit? Kevin Durant now went to the Warriors because it's all about their storyline to make money. All these stats and plays mean almost nothing. The NBA will rig it. It would've been OKC vs. Cavs to begin with.
They made Curry play like shit on purpose. Why would he throw a behind the back pass out of bounds that was no where close for Klay Thompson to catch on the last possession. Go watch it yourself. And why would he hit the backboard on his last 3 when in the regular season, he would know it down? I would expect him to at least hit rim. NBA is rigged. Not even a warriors or Cavs fan.
+Simon Henry stfu about rigged, you obviously not a basketball player, you acting like a female who doesn't know basketball. Basketball players are peopl also, not machines that make every shot or make the right decision like you may want to think based on what the warriors did in regular season. Regular season success doesnt mean automatic championship, gotta work hard for it. Cavs had it easy going into the finals, warriors struggled and played wayy more games to get to the finals....they were gassed after that thunder series you could tell. Doesnt excuse their play, cavs came back but thats why winning the ring is so hard and it requires a little bit of luck.
curry is the GOAT. better than LeBron kobe and even Michael. He's also the best defender of all time and was clearly robbed by kawhi leonard. fucking bullshit. Also, we only lost cause bogut was out AND lebitch had Green suspended in game 5. Warriors will beat cavs in 5 next season. curry will average 33 points in the finals and kevin will average 25. Next year is our year. Might as well give us that ring already. #DUBNATION #GODCURRY #LEBITCHJAMES
The answer to the question is at the 7:00 mark. The man came back super early from an injury that takes 6-8 weeks to recover, therefore he couldn’t move the same. It’s real simple. You saw the difference the year before and the year after
.......this was absolutely incredible. I have never seen an NBA analysis of this level in my life. Thank you for putting this together. It was comprehensive, analytical and insightful.
I don't understand what is there to dislike on this video when the guy is dropping facts. This clearly took time to create, editing and explanation. A well put video. Good job
fabulous breakdown @bballbreakdown Coach Nick! Thanks for taking the time to revisit these clips after the finals (when the media was dominated by the free agency and draft the last little while). Good to see a bit more on the basketball on the floor impact rather then just predictions made by analysts and TV personalities of the coming year
Yo man he choked flat out, Kyrie gave him nightmares! He had one good game now this is a first time unanimous MVP we talking bout. He confirmed what we who know have been saying all along and that is he is reg without that trey shot he goes to the rack weak he doesn't jump. He got showed up and exposed. That something different in 2016 was great team defense. Yo man this was a nice video I thought you were gonna make excuses but it was objective and unbiased even down to the language and terms you used.
Great players always have dark times Lebrons performance in 2011 is a good example but they'll always come back stronger it'll only fuel them Steph will really want to win after this year
Coach thank you for giving the people what they want. Now you Curry haters can have a field day and go off on him while you still can. We all know Curry at his best is better than anyone else in the league at their best. So enjoy this gift....for now.
If you watch how Thompson guarded Curry from 2015 vs 2016 then you will see why his effectiveness changed. He played him and gave him the drive and did nothing but take away the 3. In 2015, he played him closer to straight up. very nice video. very informative.
Curry finally played a Western Conference where all major players were playing and he got worn down especially with the injury he was probably hiding... and having to deal with Westbrook then... Irving is a tough assignment.
amazing video. amazing analysis. beautiful comparissons between both finals. nice that you mentioned his flaws with strong critics similar to when you talked about westbrook. this video was so worth the wait.
also in 2015, their wasn't anyone on the Cavs to defend him or Klay. Irvin was hurt, Love was hurt, and Shumpert was playing hurt with a torn muscle in his left shoulder so he was playing hurt with one arm. The Cavs mostly play Deli on him but we know Deli lack the skills but has the heart. So even though Curry won the championship that year, he still didn't play to his potential. He hasn't play well enough as mvp (especially an anonymous mvp) in the finals. Its the fact that the warriors are so deep as a team that really helped them ti win the first and make up for his mess ups or his lack of productivity. but in 2016, the Cavs had the help James needed to take advantage of Curry or warriors miscues.
yeah Curry is an excellent NBA player...regardless of the comparison last year's game, still the defense and the aggressiveness matters this time. That made the difference
+BBALLBREAKDOWN So we still don't know what exactly happened and why he played off the ball much more when in 2015 it wasn't like that. In your other video, you did mention that GSW does benefit a lot from curry playing off ball. I'm just curious how such a dominating MVP can suddenly disappear. There's no real acknowledgment of injury either. His movements definitely looked slow. Injury aside, he still make very sloppy plays, passes and TO.
no we do know what happened. it's what happened all year. Kerr chose to use draymond as the point forward and have steph/klay come off of screens. The entire reason for doing this is it allows more movement from your wings. Unlike when Steph is the primary ball-handler. Everyone stands around and watches as he runs PnR with Draymond/hoists up a shot early in the clock and the offense has less movement. You dont need advanced analytics to tell you this. watch the games.
Curry, Iggy, Bogut weren't 100% healthy in 2016. Especially Curry since he was literally ballin' out through out the season and breaking the most wins in the NBA record season 73-9.
Curry was hurt but that wasn't the major factor in his performance. He simply choked and cracked under the pressure. He lost because Kyrie simply outplayed him, Lebron was a monster, his supporting cast was either injured/suspended and Barnes had the worst finals series in nba history. The biggest thing was the fact that his shot wasn't falling like it usually does and yeah its true, Curry is average when he's cold from 3 point line but if you're so good at something especially when its worth more than 2 points then why would you stop doing it. As much as you can hate curry you can't say he didn't deserve Unanimous MVP. He had the best regular season of all time, just couldn't carry it on to the playoffs
Video's 100% right, and he didn't show up for game 7, however we have to realize that the Cavaliers defeated a banged up Warriors team. Curry's probably gonna have to have some sort of clean up surgery involving his legs, that shoulder was becoming bumish, so that took away his shot consistency. Andre Iguodala was playing banged up, and was not the former Finals MVP we saw last year. Draymond Green was 1 game out of rotation; had he not got suspended that game, they probably would have clenched the series. Bogut was out with injuries, and the Warriors were just not up to full strength. The video just details how Steph was playing injured.
You can go into a ton of detail describing how he didn't play as well as 2015, but the reason he didn't play as well was probably mental. When everyone went in on him over the shoes is when I felt like they wouldn't win the series.
Coach, thank you for all your hard work, I check your channel daily hoping for new videos. Sorry to say that this was far from my favourite. Seems to me it would have been a better approach to compare Curry in the finals with Curry rest of the year. How did GSW try to use an injured Curry? Also; there is so much (good) stats-analysis going around on the internet, I love your channel for being something else, for showing us the moves for focusing on the actual action. Please keep doing that.I will turn of adblock and watch again, of course I will.
I completely agree, those turnovers were unexcusable, no matter what his knee felt like. Those were mostly sloppy passes. His defense as however impacted quite a bit. He did lose his man every now and then in the regular season, so that didn't really surprise me, but it was clear that he had trouble consistently staying with people. Similar on offense, he couldn't get seperation and that's probably due to his knee. I'd imagine him missing lots of open threes might be caused by that too. I think the fairest thing to say is that he did indeed play bad in the finals, having stupid turnovers and being more unattentive on defense, but that his knee injury completely changed how he could attack. I also think it was a major factor in the OKC series, because he clearly couldn't get seperation there either. Sidenote: All of that wouldn't have mattered any other Warrior (mostly Barnes, but definetly Thompsonb too) would have capitalized on the Cavs defense. They allowed a ton of open threes, and while Curry had an excuse the other Warriors could have made at least a few more.
This video is well done and shows how Steve Kerr and Steph Curry could not step up when it mattered. We have a two year sample of curry's NBA finals appearances that show he wears down physically as the play offs go along due to his small stature. He was not serious injured. Every player had pain by the time the NBA finals comes around. He just is not the same player by the time the finals come around because of the physical play and his own physical limitations.
They also strictly played him for the three this year, last year they worried about his drive, you can tell by how Thompson guards him in 2016, same way Adams did in the OKC series.
It's simple...Curry went from guarding Dellavedoa to guarding Kyrie. He went from guarding a backup PG to guarding one of the most skilled players of all-time. He went from saving energy on defense to having to stay in front of the greatest ball-handler of all-time. Anyone who played or understands basketball knows that tired legs from having to guard a great offensive player, especially for a shooter, has the biggest impact on how well someone plays on the offensive end.
you wasn't saying that during the regular season tho
+DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest wtf are u talking about. was curry guarding kyrie irving the whole season?
klay guarded kyrie
+DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest Maybe that's because Curry didn't get to play Kyrie every game. Hopefully they start calling moving screens and hand checks on y'all cheaters. Glad y'all lost, and more glad that LeBron beat them. Something Golden State couldn't do against a healthy cavs team
+Christian Viramontes facts
It's amazing how in a matter of just one postseason and a few weeks of the offseason, Stephen Curry went from comparisons with Michael Jordan or better to the biggest choker probably in NBA history and the most overrated nba player in a long time, Kevin Durant went from the most beloved and heroic player in recent years to the least clutch and most hated and upsetting traitor probably in NBA history, LeBron went from the most hated NBA superstar who couldn't win without loads of help to possibly the most amazing finals performance possibly ever. We also lost Kobe, Timmy, and now we might lose KG all in one season.
+Adam Gottlieb yes, great points. Most big stars have had bad moments in the finals. It happens.
+BBALLBREAKDOWN but in 2 finals in a row?
Its called time ....maybe you should leave your basement for a day.
+Well Shishio Maybe you should appreciate someone who does leave their basement and observes rather than assume I don't. when was the last time the league's villain turned into a hero, the league's unstoppable poster child turned into an overrated choker, the league's recent hero turns into the villain, and two of the biggest legends retire in just one season, or really a matter of a few months?
Steph had ankles, knee and shouder injure during play-off. that is the reason
1) Curry was barely on Lebron so of course Lebron barely scored on him
2) Curry was 1-12 with Lebron as his primary defender
3) The Cavs literally ran whoever offense on Curry... whoever offense is not run of " elite " defenders..
lmfao
You watch Smoove. Don't you?
I think coach wants to put a shitty defensive 6'3" Point guard on a 6'8" monster.
dont argue with Coach Nick. Dude is selective as fuck when it comes to arguments. Biased opinion.
lebron shot 2-16 when gaurded by curry the past 2 finals
+Mo Overall Fitness Hacks Coach Nick just said LeBron scored on Curry 8 times in the 2016 finals. Stop making up numbers.
the amazing thing about this comment thread is the video shows a complete breakdown of basketball and the comments are still filled with wild shit from casual fans who know nothing about basketball
For real man it's like people aren't watching the video lmao
Exactly. They are willfully ignorant.
Exactly. Idiots that don't know advanced statistics and obsessed with giving "W"s and "L"s fill the comment section.
The NBA is rigged!!!!
W
YOOOO if you watch EVERY PLAY LeBron or Ky made on this bitch you would notice nigga was shook as F real talk. DUDE GOT MINDFUCKED BY GREATNESS!!!!
No injured in first round changed everything..plus his shoulder
#132-98
#NeverForget
#Jan2016
+Self Made Trillin #Cavswon
#neverforget
+Self Made Trillin Did you say he was injured when he scored 17 in overtime, no bitch shut the fuck up
+DollarNinja - He was in that 1st half when he was inconsistent as a motherfucker. Just like he was all playoff long
+DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest lol if it was lebron inconsistent hes trash asf. U sayin he inconsistent but last time i checked he was playing good almost every game but the finals. Even steve kerr said hes 100%
basically kyrie happened
gimme your bitch
FAXX
Skip Bayless would say that haha.
MMOTHA FUCKIN W
Basically
Well Coach you've outdone yourself again and even though there are a ton of comments on this video that hate you for your analyzations, I for one enjoyed it greatly. This was a great video and personally helped me see how analytics can bring out the best in the game. Keep up the good work!!!
+Dr. Dish thanks so much! And I don't see too many comments hating on me....did I miss them?
No one's hating on Coach Nick. Those were biased LeBron fans that have all left in fear of Durant signing with the Warriors. They're changing their profiles to Warrior graphics instead of rooting for the destruction of this team and what it will mean for LeBron's legacy.
I thought we all agreed the video should be named "How Steph Curry choked in the NBA-Finals" great breakdown coach
+eminem252525 haha, thanks!
How about your idol "LeChoke's Done, won't even sniff the Playoffs" sounds?
@@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx huh?
Steve Kerr had to preform the Heimlich on Curry after that 4th quarter in game 7. I'm just happy the dude survived after choking for that long lol
His mommy couldn't find his pacifier therefore he choked on his bottle of milk
L
L, bad joke
Gimme ur ring
Steph Jr
no
L, get cancer
It's the final. Shrinking is what he does.
Also.... Dat "elite defense" 😂
you dark tho?
LeBron Dickrider chew his rod soem more fuckboy
He's had two finals appearances. In the first finals he played great. 26 pts, 6.3 assists and 5.2 rebounds on 44.3% shooting, and a 58.5 TS%. That's not quite as good as he was in the regular season and playoffs, but still a great finals performance by any reasonable definition.
And now in his second of two finals he played poorly relative to the regular season and playoffs. Hardly terrible, as 22.6/4.9/3.7 on 58% TS are still all-star level numbers, just not the same as his regular season numbers.
+Fine Wine Daily 3.7 assists is just disgusting for a "point guard"
Baller Baby
He shot 40% from 3 and 40% from the field overall in the finals. He had a True Shooting % of 58%. 22.6/4.9/3.7 on 58% TS will make you an All-Star. Those numbers are also deflated because they are 7 games against one of the best teams in the NBA. Dwane Wade had 19/4.6/4.1 on 51% TS and was a starter. Al Horford and a few other also had stat lines worse than Curry's finals performance. And of course Kobe's stats were just laughable.
Speaking of Kobe, he had one of the worst finals performances of all-time for a superstar in 2004 - far worse than Curry. 22.6 pts, 2.8 rebounds and 4.4 assists per game, all while playing 46 minutes per game (11 more than Curry due to the blowouts). He also shot 38% from the field and 17% from 3. 17%! He had a TS% of 45%. Players sometimes under-perform. It happens.
Here's what's happened the last 2 years for Curry:
2014-15 Regular Season: Amazing
2015 Playoffs: Amazing
2015 Finals: Very good
2015-16 Regular Season: Ridiculous
2016 Playoffs: Great despite 2 injuries
2016 Finals: Good (bad by Curry's standards)
And your whole narrative about Curry giving the franchise over to KD is pure fantasy and stupidity. Curry had nothing to do with KD moving. The decision was made by KD and the owners. Is Curry supposed to stop the owners from signing one of the best players in the league?
While Steph Curry's 3 point shooting ability is incredible, these finals proved there is a limit on how much a 6'3" skinny dude with average NBA level athleticism can dominate a professional basketball game. I don't personally believe Curry choked, or that he couldn't handle playing well in the finals. He just can't physically dominate the way that Lebron can. Jump shooters can have the illusion of being the best player in the league or at their position during the regular season but when the playoffs start and the defense gets better, they tend to struggle more than a guy like Lebron or Kobe or other stars who have more well rounded games.
No he choked. Had it been a confident Curry it would have been Warriors by 5
+Knightwing_xX L
+Knightwing_xX is draymond didn't get suspended, and if Barnes played better it would be over in 5. Everyone else on the Warriors played mediocre during finals
+The Malay-American Guy if*
Knightwing_xX Not necessarily. You can have all the confidence in the world and still play terribly because of good defense or just having an off night.
those turnovers are just god awful. actually passing to the other teaam
He probably leads in uncontested turnovers. Way too many cute passes
wow thought I was the only one that noticed good catch.
I dislike the disrespect I see on the internet.
fuck your opinion
It's all ego
+Yung Jesus lol
Same.
Fuck you
Where the haters at who said he wouldn't make a Curry choking video and calling him a Steph Curry fanboy?
took him forever and he still was bias & talking that injury bullshit so L,
we still here.
He talked injury for literally 30 seconds lol
Took him like 3 weeks lol
rigged
+Keefe Keefe cause he was getting all the stuff
Much props to Coach Nick for not backing down on this video, and listening to his subscribers. Good work.
pretty sure this video was coming regardless of what people said.
Q&A
Q: What do Stephen Curry and Lionel messi have in common
A:They both choke in the finals
At least he can make it, Houston won't make the playoffs gay ass
It doesn't mean nothing if you make it to the finals lmfao. You gotta show up if you're the best player on your team.
Messi choked on that penalty. He actually plays good in these finals for his National team, his teamates just let him down. He gets like quadruple teamed, then still manages to dribble out of it or leads his teamate with a great pass. He creates this space and his teamates fail to score. Messi ain't gonna score getting quadruple teamed in these finals, so his teamates definitely gotta step up. Tbh they're chokers if anything. Messi does his part. Btw, Messi has won numerous Champions League finals, Copa del rey, etc. Messi ain't no choker.
Steph Curry on the other hand is an overrated choker. Nothing more.
+NMC 00 messi is the greatest of all time talent wise . and anyone who blames him for argentina's loss has never watched football or didnt see him play in 09 11 and 12 when he mudered man united twice or when he put 96 goals in a year
we know messi sucks in national team. world cup and copa america, he's not the same man during his stint in national team compare to he's in barcelona. if portugal win this year euro then ronaldo will always be better than him for sure
Steph seems to be a Finals choker. There's really no other way to put it. I have no idea how much his injuries bothered his ability to shoot, dribble, defend, and create plays, but that is not an excuse for playing as poorly as he did the entire finals.
I'm a Warriors fan but come on... two consecutive finals, and you play sub-par in both? That's inexcusable.
Objectively, Curry seems to fair fine in the first 3 rounds. It's the 4th round that seems to get him. Not sure if he's out of gas or what, but both times (this year and last year), he's played terribly.
Also props to Cleveland. They defended him pretty well and obviously got into his head at some point, since he was missing wide open looks.
W for being classy
The stage got too big for him, and he faced a physical defense that was new to him. When his shot started failing him, he made himself useless and harmful to his team, instead of driving and resorting to his playmaking ability. You could tell all the lebron blocks and trash talk got to him. He still has a long way to go before he becomes the face of the nba.
He uses up all his energy from the regular season to the conference finals i guess.
Did you watch the video????
+MD Twomp Yeah, or else i wouldn't have commented. Steph is a finals choker unfortunately. I hope he proves me wrong later on, but from the 2 finals I've seen his play seems to drop off significantly come finals time.
It's really clear watching video of that finals compared to 2015 and 2017 that his lateral movement just wasn't the same. Almost certainly a result of the MCL sprain.
SALTY WARRIORS FAN just admit that stephen curry choked
Last yr cavs didn't have all there players.
Last year curry didn't get injured in the playoffs, bogut didn't get injured and draymond didn't get suspended. And don't give that curry was injured shit, you just don't injure your knee, miss a month and come back healthy af. Nope, he played like a shadow of his former self through out the rest of the playoffs when he came back, he only had spurts of greatness, he didn't play great all game like he did all season until the knee injury, he either had 1 good quarter or a good couple of minutes. His stats took a dramatic fall, that doesn't happen by coincidence. The cavs got lucky, with injuries and begged for draymond to be suspended.
+sexypimpking ok so you can't make up excuses on any side.
+sexypimpking Curry said himself he was fine and the injury had no part in his performance. Draymond should've been suspended in the OKC series and the Cavs also had an unhealthy Kevin Love. Fact of the matter is that GS choked.
I don't know why Warriors fans have to keep making stupid excuses like Curry being "injured", or Draymond Greene getting himself suspended for liking balls. They just didn't show up and they got punished for it, why do you have to make excuses for them when he admits himself he was fine. Your inability to show any respect to the Cavs for winning shows your lack of knowledge about the game (because most warriors fans just started watching basketball last year).
+sexypimpking lillard dropped 50 curry wasnt injured. Curry once went 6-19 from 3 wasnt injured. U cant be sayin he was injured no excuses. U cant have a great game everytime. Kyrie exposed him. Faxxxxxx, hes always done it faxxxxxx. When cavs lost last year what yall say. Oooo lebron sucks. No excuses. It was just a knee sprain. Nothin big
ONE WORD : CHOKE
W and bigger W for your name
legoat?nononono...its air goat...
L for leGOAT. More like leDOUCHEBAG
nahh legoat sounds about rigt
Shortorderboy1048 go fuck yourself with your L
He got locked the fuck up and SHUT DOWN, that's what happened!
Kyrie >>>Stephanie
He didn't get locked up, he had open looks.
+kobe bean how was he not locked up
kyrie is not better than Steph just stop living in the moment
Kyrie can't lead a team like steph just remebered Kyrie before lebron couldn't even make the playoffs lol
Steph is a scoring champ 2 time Mvp Nba champ and lead his team to a 73-9 record
Kyrie wouldn't be in this situation if it wasn't for Lebron
Nigga Steph curry ain't make the playoffs until Klay was drafted, shut yo ass up
+Max Carter Curry is not better than Kyrie, stop bandwagoning
Curry can't be effective in the finals like Kyrie, his teammates had to carry him
Kyrie is able to guard curry but curry can't guard Kyrie
Great breakdown! That was incredible and well commentated analysis of Curry's numbers, really helped me understand why Steph and the Warriors just broke down.
+Ethan Spira awesome, thanks! My head started hurting with all the charts! Haha
When Irving was in finals this year, it was obvious how Curry is overrated .
Gimme yo ring
Gimme yo ring
Lol. All these people saying "gimme yo ring" are the same sus ass people who shat on LeBron last year. I guess people can't take what they give. Weak AF.
1.rigged 2. rigged 3. rigged
Vergel Cayabyab I was a Curry fan last year.. And yes lebron is the best right now.. I said it last year.. But yall are trying to shit on my favorite player like he isn't great as well
This team wont win anymore championships if Steve Kerr thinks Curry playing off-ball is best for the team
he was having him run through a million screens to get the ball wasting so much energy & being grabbed and held
Why do you people believe Steph was hurt? In the 9 games before the finals he played after returning from injury he averaged 29.3pts, 6.4rebs, 6.7asts, 45.8% FG and 40.4%, 3FG... He was obviously not playing hurt.
Because you obviously know the mans body more than his doctors and trainers lol
Free Gucci His doctors and trainers never stated he wasn't healthy. In fact Steph and Steve Kerr both said Steph is healthy.
All Hail The King Lol, of course they're gonna say that? Teams keep their health issues on the low most of the time. Steph was hurt, but Kyrie also took him to school. The dude wasn't 100% and it showed and Cavs took advantage.
Free Gucci Why was he playing as well as usual in the 9 games after returning from injury? Also your argument is that I'm less credible than doctors or trainers yet neither said anything that would disagree with what I stated.
Would anybody be giving Curry the injury pamper treatment if it was Lebron? Nope. The first thing you guys would say, "choke, now hes 2-5" He was up 3-1 and had the tools to get it done. He scored 38 points in game 4, and scored 40 in portland. Tired of the hurt narrative. Also, he never went to get clean up surgery that people suspected on his knee. Its almost like when D Rose got hurt, he was healthy the next season, but D Rose was underwhelming because he lost faith in his body because he was afraid he would get hurt again. Its not like Curry wasnt healthy, he just looked unsure of himself. But alot of things like bad passes, poor shot selection, and silly fouls cost possessions. He was MENTALLY healthy right?? So there should be no excuses. If you arent confident that you will benefit your team and dont feel like you can contribute, dont play. Simple.
The jumping shooting team chose the wrong time to go cold (games 5-7).
The 2 time MVP has come up really small the last two finals. You could argue for Kyrie and Draymond being Finals MVP over the unanimous MVP
+662chillin I was kinda saying this on Twitter yesterday... LeBron is the MVP, but Kyrie was difference maker.
Did you even watch the Finals? Lebron was clearly the MVP. He led his team back from a 3-1 deficit, had a back to back 41 point game, and clearly dominated the finals. Draymond didn't even play a game. So he will never get mvp regardless. He may be tough but not an MVP option. Many people who don't know basketball say Kyrie should be MVP. Kyrie was great and hit a key shot, but not the MVP. Give props to Lebron and respect his pure greatness.
Did you even read my comment or you just like to see your own words on the screen? I said NOWHERE in my comment that Lebron didn't deserve to be the MVP. He clearly was (I thought this was assumed in my comment). I said that cases could be made for Kyrie or Draymond being MVP over the 2 time, first ever unanimous MVP who, outside of maybe 2 games, was a no show for the NBA Finals. He did the same thing last year even when the Cavs were down 2 of their Big 3
can u do a video on the summer league? the lakers look fun to watch
russel and icey veins
+Otakuofthenba i happened to just see that game.
getting lay up-ed after a "im so clutch" cellebration was embarrasing.
+Alejandro Romero Osnaya but he won it so...
Coach carter would have made him do 1000 push-ups.
they are running the same sets as the warriors...if you pay attention to it
I'm early let me make a joke
Unanimous MVP
😂😂😂
lmao
+johnnyXx4321 Its debatable, which is why he shouldn't have been the first ever unanimous.
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+It's Nick NBA's meaning of MVP is a player that helps their team the most. if steph got injured(like he did in the playoffs) the warriors would be fine. if lebron or PG13 got injured, their teams would do absolute shit. so it seams debatable to me...
I'm going to root for 29 NBA teams now, damn warriors. And screw that coward Durant as well.
gimme your ring hater
keep it
Yeah it's 29 vs 1 now
+Dominic Dixon gimme your ring bandwagon
+Tj Slendyman your a bandwagon
Dayum Kyrie abused Curry 20 times??? Something tells me if Kyrie woulda been healthy last year it would have been the same type of abuse
No doubt. Look at game 1 of last year in the finals. Kyrie killed Curry then and he saved the game by blocking his shot.
Curry wasn't healthy this year just like in December n January when curry abused kyrie , kyrie was just coming back (even though he got to heal for like 7 months)
+DFMixes you can't compare a broken knee cap and out for 7 months to a sprained knee and out for 2 weeks. Curry had like 40 pts his first game back and said "I'm back" sooo???
+DFMixes kyries injury was much more major
he was hobbling around the court during the Bulls series. Didnt he say he was out there as a decoy? 2015 game 1 would've been a blowout if kyrie was healthy
It's simple, he choked LMFAOOO
then he cried to Durant for help LOLOLOL
He was hurt
+Self Made Trillin BUTTHURT* 😂
+slushE injured knee first round changed everything
+Self Made Trillin Lmao he was perfectly fine by the finals
Great video and analysis, but Kyrie did play some stellar defense on curry, and the cavs in general
+Mike E he absolutely did. That's almost worth a breakdown, lol!
+BBALLBREAKDOWN It is, please do one.
+BBALLBREAKDOWN it is but you won't cause its on a Lebron team , who you secretly do not like
+WEEZYFANx2136 he does nothing but compliment LeBron when he does good stuff and criticize him when he does bad. Seems logical to me.
Certainly a great video! I think it is worth the breakdown of Kyrie's defense on him though :) . All this talk about how curry 'messed' up, or what was 'wrong' with him. It could be as simple as, as we have seen and said, people figured him out and Ky locked him up. Steph is amazing, no doubt, but yeah... locked.
Honestly, I don't think Curry was exactly injured, but it is clear something was not right and he never was able to get a rhythm. I found it frustrating the amount of times he would ball watch while Klay or Barnes went into some mid range jumper ISO play.
Also, to all the people bashing Curry and singing the highest praise of Lebron, lets not forget, Lebron's first two finals were disastrous. Curry is still young enough, and with this new team will have at least 5 more years of great play to prove himself on the biggest stage.
Lets just keep everything in perspective, folks.
I think it was him being hurt honestly. He looked completely different after he got hurt during the rockets series. Even during his incredible Portland run, he didn't look how he did in the regular season. His quickness, especially laterally, was off. Got even worse during the OKC match up.
+Lebron “Get Thot's” James you sound exactly like them niggas who said Jordan would never get a ring... Kobe is always gonna be in Shaqs shadow... Well nigga lebron has 8 years pro basketball over Curry but somebody is still 3-4 at the finals... But Curry is supposed to be a choke?
+OffTopic Kamah Man that person is either a child or gets paid to troll around the internet. Notice they always use negative statements to entice a response.
Well.. guess it's a good thing it'll be Klay and DURANT iso'ing next year if they make it. Right? I personally hope LeBron spews Alpha secretion on every Warrior in the vicinity.
***** Even if you are injured you can still have a great game once in a while, consistently doing it is the problem. Just look at Dwyane Wade in 2013-2014, and Tony Parker the last few years. They have were perpetually injured and still managed to have some great games, even though you could easily tell something was wrong with them. It's like that with Curry.
I know Curry played like sh*t these finales, but most the blame has to go to the coach. He literally made no adjustments those last 3 games smh. I knew shit was bad when he let LBJ and Kyrie beat them by themselves (scoring 41 a piece) and all they ran were isolation s most the game. That says alot about the coach
I think we can all blame Harrison Barnes for not performing well, and draymond for that one suspension
The Malay-American Guy him too, it was literally 4 vs 5 when Barnes was on the court. I feel like Draymond wouldve had his game 7 during game 5 so i agree w you. They shouldve won, but still doesnt take away that Steve Kerr let Lebron and Kyrie score 82 points off of isolations the entire game. Didnt try and double team them or anything.
Last year questionable W does not count............
Last year almost all good pg gone.....this year got killed by west and uncle drew, even lillard....
W
Lillard had one good shooting game
Oh boy! They are going to FUCKING GO AT HIM this year. ESPECIALLY those who wanted that MVP. Lillard and Westbr.. Oh my God! Westbrook is going to DESTROY HIM.
***** These are opinionated comments, you don't take them "literally" lmao
Can't wait for the nba 2017 season. Lillard and the blazers will be huge!
Coach is telling you Curry was hurt. Everybody knows this. Yall lost some key players but not your star. The games the Warriors won were not attributed to Curry. If LeBron was even hurt in the slightest bit the Cavs wouldn't win the series.
Keep in mind the Cavs lost to our bench 2 games in a row.
+MD Twomp still not an excuse for a 72-9 team to lose while leading 3-1
stfu im sick of hearing the injury excuse. He wasn't injured when he came back against the trailblazers. He wasn't injured when they came back against the thunder. Now that they lost he's all of a sudden injured lmao. Fuck off Curry choked and thats all there is to say
Curry was fine. Just a bitch.
That's a great analysis. How old are you.
When the GoldenState Warriors needed him most..... He vanished!
like how lebron disappeared against the mavericks. not the 1980's celtics, the friggin mavericks
Long ago, The two conferences lived together in harmony. then everything changed when the west attacked. Only lebron master of all five stats could stop them. When the warriors needed steph curry most, he vanished. Fifty years passed and lebron discovered a new championship. A ring for Cleveland. although the ring is great, he needs a few more before he can ever be considered the Goat.
lebron still better...L
+Beau Brady w
Jason Kidd > Stephen Curry. Dirk Nowitzki > Draymond Green
Curry doesn't show up in crunch time in the Playoffs as often as he did/does in the regular season.
He finally put the video up now everyone can shut up
+Seikou Sawaneh 👊🏀👍👊👊👊
+Seikou Sawaneh 👊🏀👍👊👊👊
I'm a huge Steph fan. But I can also take a step back and look at the fact that he DID underperform and he did NOT show up in the way he was needed in game 7. He had some really good games this series, but the fact of the matter was: yeah he was injured. He didn't look the same for sure (first take didn't let you forget that lol), however, he chose to return and be of help to his team. And he showed enough flashes of his MVP brilliance to lead you to believe that he was playing through it. What I believe was that Curry was more mentally attacked than anything. LeBron and Kyrie got into his head FAR more than Russell or KD ever did. You can just tell..his actions changed. He didn't shoot with confidence. Constantly worried about LeBron's defense and Kyrie's offense. Add on to the fact that he had to play some extremely tough and aggressive defense as well.
Steph's low averages don't bother me that much.
The things that really bothered me weren't his low averages, but rather his lack of aggression and anger, his lack of desire to do anything in the midrange (curry has a great midrange game, stepbacks, floaters, you name it), and lack of good decision making (really sloppy passes and not staying completely focused on defense). It's like the pressure for him to be the hero was so much that he actually could feel it on his shoulders (cause let's face it, I always felt like curry just plays ball, he's not trying to be something he ain't, he's not trying to be the golden child or the hero of the league). He'll be fine tho, all the greats have a bad finals series here or there. They'll be fine, especially now that they have another RELIABLE scorer in Durant. That pressure will be off curry, and he'll be able to play like he normally does: ESPECIALLY come playoff time
+Ryland Wells clearly something was up, and whatever it was didn't bother him as much in 2015.
+BBALLBREAKDOWN I agree definitely. It's another learning experience. He'll come back better because of it. Especially with Durant there to take the load off of him
+BBALLBREAKDOWN didn't bother him because he LeBron wasn't undermanned this time around.
+BBALLBREAKDOWN Maybe played againist injuried defenders, Delly and Shumpert, helped Curry be aggressive in 2015 final. Both Delly and Shumpert played with serious injuries during the 2015 final, Delly even needed to go to hospital once after a game. BTW, coach, do you know any news about hosptial/surgery for Curry after the final since every Curry fan said he was hurt......
the difference in stats from last year to this year is negligible.... he played like trash in both series, and the difference was his team (A.I., for the most part) couldn't save him this year
Good point young lady, you are paying attention. Some people didn't see that, this is why Iggy won most valuable.
no need to be a dick.
+Anton G he didn't even win finals MVP, and he got locked down by a back up PG
***** "lcoekd" alright dumbass, How does 19 points and 6 turnovers shooting 2-15 from the 3 in Game 2 sound? Is that not fucking locked down? Or are you one of the dumb fucking bandwagons who got into ball this year?
***** Do you want me to use another game? Or is your stupid ass done talking?
last year if irving and love were healthy cavs would go back to back champions ;)
Finally been waiting for coach nick to hand Curry the L
Didn’t age well
A lot of uneducated fans here don't know how tough it is to return early coming off an injury. Less time to rest means the injury will still have its effects on Steph's body throughout the series. Be sensible, Steph wasn't healthy in these series and yes, he did say there's no excuse to what happened, but can you blame him? I'm sure he was playing through pain and still tried his best to contribute to his team. Even his minutes were down in these finals compared to last year's, giving us a clear hint that the staff knew his knees are still bothering him and wanted to rest him as much as they can to preserve his energy.
LOL making excuses. He said he wasn't hurt. He wasn't hurt, he chocked end of story.. Maybe it's because he actually had to play competition. Last year he had a backup pg, this year Kyrie, accept it.
Knicks 4 Life You certainly don't know what it feels like to play through an injury, do you? Of course he said he wasn't injured, if he said he was then you'll still say he's making up excuses for his lack of energy in the court. He's at a lose lose situation so why admit the injury in the first place?
So he says that theres no excuse but you guys still make excuses? You fans were screaming "Hes back" after his game in portland but when it comes to facing the Cavs and losing you wanna bring this up? Honestly the real uneducated fans are the ones who don't get how good of a player Lebron is. He shut Curry down, not just with his blocks but mentally too. Same goes for Kyrie. He was too much for Curry.
If you wanna find an excuse the best one is that they chased 73-9 instead of resting. Yall can use that.
stop making excuses
Regardless how you feel about Steph playing defense or being injured. This series showed how important Kyrie is. Last year, Steph was guarding Dellevadova and Shumpert who aren't offensive threats so he didn't have to exert effort on the defensive end. If you make him play defense you can atleast wear him down. Seriously tho, he need to stop with this ridiculous behind the back passes tho. He is getting a little too cute with passes and players are ready for them now. Great video and analysis...but at the end of the day, He choked and the Warriors choked...
+Anthony McNeil thanks! And yes, Kyrie was the difference.
All in all, the Warriors were up 3-1, they fuckin choked something crazy and lost. They only lost by 4, and they failed to hit multiple open ass shots.
3s are harder to make when the pressures on when the palms are sweaty and the heart is beating.just ask kyrie and lebron.
+Timo Cruz Shit I know, but it just is inexcusable how they lost. If you watch the game again, they had so many chances to win it (not including the 3-1 lead).
It's just very surprising that they lost and how they really could have one if they just hit two shots.
Yea it also puts it in perspective - that even though cavs won it could have truly easily gone eitherway
+Misael V. It shouldn't have been close though. I can never understand how the best regular season team of all time, with the two time MVP, loses when they are up 3-1, which also has never been done in NBA history, at their home.
I'm still baffled to this day.
Very simple: Steph Curry choked. AGAIN.
Don't believe me? Curry had more turnovers in this Finals series then he did assists. More TURNOVERS than ASSISTS in the Finals. Let that sink in.
So after all the attempts to defend Curry's defense, you'll now admit that when he's forced to defend capable scorers without Klay to cover for him, he got exposed?
No he didnt say that he said that kyrie is a wizard and can score on anyone which is true even when Klay who is one of the best perimiter defenders right now had troubles clamping him up kyrie was just being uncle drew
What? No
curry cant guard kyrie for shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttt or score on him
Truth be told, Bior, no one can guard Kyrie. He can "expose" anyone that guards him. He exposed Clay, and Andre, and both are very great defenders. But a testament to Curry's defense, he didn't lead the nba in steals this year for nothing though...
Agent of Chaos Lol Right because leading the league in a defensive stat doesnt make him a great defensive player. That's like saying oh he led the league in points but he's not a go scorer man smh niggas always wanna hate or greatness man.
You misspelled choke
All the salty warrior "fans" don't use these excuses:
Cavs held/grabbed us on defense! Ooo Noo!1!1!1!!!
Curry was injured whole season!
We didn't have bogut!?!?!?
Was rigged?!??
The cavs just stole ideas from the Warriors, grabbing was Greens and boguts thing.
Kyrie AND love was injured last season.
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OKC 3-1
Season = series, sorry
Still think Curry is an "elite defender"?
Lead NBA in steals .... 😂
+Trufe so y kyrie averaged 30 steve kerr never lets him gaurd the point gaurd position klay does that. Also he didnt mainly gaurd kyrie,westbrook and damian lillard. Leading in steals doesnt mean you are good at defense.
Yes he is I hate this good damn finals because everybody thinks that people cant habe Bad days. The Three by Kyrie Irving was really taff Curry got his Hand in his face. Everybody says that Lebron was so great ever thought about that the d by the Warriors wasnt that good (just Draymond).
Curry is just flamed by everyone because people cant say to themselfs that he is the best Player in the League.
+Trufe most of Steph steals are literally just coming behind a center and poking the ball out. He doesn't get many pure on ball steals.
Uh.... Did you not watch the playoffs/finals? LeBron showed us that he's STILL THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. Curry ain't shit.
Simply put it. He choked
So Irving > curry?
W
In this finals, yes, overall, it's tied.
Ok in that case what ahppened in 2011 when lebron didn't show up. wasn't he still the best player in the world. was dirk better then him? Of course not
+yrret1996 in this finals, yeah.
L Irving isnt the best pg in the east
Steph isn't that good, that's why. Playoffs are tough for him.
Huge L
W
+Dylan Kalonji L for giving him an L when it was a W
W
jerrybronham i really don't gaf because people who actually study basketball say he is the true best in the world last year and KD is joining Stephen Curry's warriors.. KD isn't taking over.. Also if KD is better than Curry how did they win..
He got exposed
The NBA is rigged. That's what happened to Steph Curry. Open up your eyes.
If the NBA is rigged then it should of been OKC vs Cavs
Exactly. It was planned LeBron to get payback from last year. It's scripted. OKC was to peak of sending the Warriors home. Do u ppl really believe that 3-1 bullshit? Kevin Durant now went to the Warriors because it's all about their storyline to make money. All these stats and plays mean almost nothing. The NBA will rig it. It would've been OKC vs. Cavs to begin with.
so it's rigged then is the ball rigged or what because the finals all came down to the last shot by Kyrie.
They made Curry play like shit on purpose. Why would he throw a behind the back pass out of bounds that was no where close for Klay Thompson to catch on the last possession. Go watch it yourself. And why would he hit the backboard on his last 3 when in the regular season, he would know it down? I would expect him to at least hit rim. NBA is rigged. Not even a warriors or Cavs fan.
+Simon Henry stfu about rigged, you obviously not a basketball player, you acting like a female who doesn't know basketball. Basketball players are peopl also, not machines that make every shot or make the right decision like you may want to think based on what the warriors did in regular season. Regular season success doesnt mean automatic championship, gotta work hard for it. Cavs had it easy going into the finals, warriors struggled and played wayy more games to get to the finals....they were gassed after that thunder series you could tell. Doesnt excuse their play, cavs came back but thats why winning the ring is so hard and it requires a little bit of luck.
curry is the GOAT. better than LeBron kobe and even Michael. He's also the best defender of all time and was clearly robbed by kawhi leonard. fucking bullshit. Also, we only lost cause bogut was out AND lebitch had Green suspended in game 5. Warriors will beat cavs in 5 next season. curry will average 33 points in the finals and kevin will average 25. Next year is our year. Might as well give us that ring already. #DUBNATION #GODCURRY #LEBITCHJAMES
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curry got owned by kyrie and bron. green was gonna get suspended eventually
Christopher Wetherspoon Kyrie got lucky. Curry is the true GOAT.
+DezBryantCaughtIt um....sorry...all I can see your comment is L's ........you might want to check that out
DezBryantCaughtIt that's a lot of lucky shots lol. irving must has a horsheshoe in his shoes
The answer to the question is at the 7:00 mark. The man came back super early from an injury that takes 6-8 weeks to recover, therefore he couldn’t move the same. It’s real simple. You saw the difference the year before and the year after
Fairly easy to answer the question in the title: He CHOKED
.......this was absolutely incredible. I have never seen an NBA analysis of this level in my life. Thank you for putting this together. It was comprehensive, analytical and insightful.
I don't understand what is there to dislike on this video when the guy is dropping facts. This clearly took time to create, editing and explanation. A well put video. Good job
fabulous breakdown @bballbreakdown Coach Nick! Thanks for taking the time to revisit these clips after the finals (when the media was dominated by the free agency and draft the last little while). Good to see a bit more on the basketball on the floor impact rather then just predictions made by analysts and TV personalities of the coming year
Great video Coach and great Analysis!
+chillzdagod awesome, Thx! #imin
Yo man he choked flat out, Kyrie gave him nightmares! He had one good game now this is a first time unanimous MVP we talking bout. He confirmed what we who know have been saying all along and that is he is reg without that trey shot he goes to the rack weak he doesn't jump. He got showed up and exposed. That something different in 2016 was great team defense. Yo man this was a nice video I thought you were gonna make excuses but it was objective and unbiased even down to the language and terms you used.
+mookeychase0907 thanks! And let's see what happens this year!
Great players always have dark times Lebrons performance in 2011 is a good example but they'll always come back stronger it'll only fuel them Steph will really want to win after this year
+abir das nahh doubt it they have kd
except that steph has been mediocre for 2 finals in a row..had they won, he wudnt have been the fmvp. AGAIN.
Nah, Mavs clutch and that 2011 team was clutch. Outplayed by MAVSSSSS
Coach thank you for giving the people what they want. Now you Curry haters can have a field day and go off on him while you still can. We all know Curry at his best is better than anyone else in the league at their best. So enjoy this gift....for now.
Incredible knowledge and analysis!
+keith863 Thx! 👊👍🏀
Been soo patient hoping for another video, excited to watch this. Cheers from Massillon OH
If you watch how Thompson guarded Curry from 2015 vs 2016 then you will see why his effectiveness changed. He played him and gave him the drive and did nothing but take away the 3. In 2015, he played him closer to straight up.
very nice video. very informative.
This is the best BBallbreakdown of all time. I learned some basketball here.
Curry finally played a Western Conference where all major players were playing and he got worn down especially with the injury he was probably hiding... and having to deal with Westbrook then... Irving is a tough assignment.
WOW coach I can't believe you finally uploaded this!
amazing video. amazing analysis. beautiful comparissons between both finals.
nice that you mentioned his flaws with strong critics similar to when you talked about westbrook.
this video was so worth the wait.
also in 2015, their wasn't anyone on the Cavs to defend him or Klay. Irvin was hurt, Love was hurt, and Shumpert was playing hurt with a torn muscle in his left shoulder so he was playing hurt with one arm. The Cavs mostly play Deli on him but we know Deli lack the skills but has the heart. So even though Curry won the championship that year, he still didn't play to his potential. He hasn't play well enough as mvp (especially an anonymous mvp) in the finals. Its the fact that the warriors are so deep as a team that really helped them ti win the first and make up for his mess ups or his lack of productivity. but in 2016, the Cavs had the help James needed to take advantage of Curry or warriors miscues.
This is just some amazing analysis, Coach. Well done!
when you can accumulate so much hate simply by achieving is when you start to cement a legacy. Congrats Curry!
great job coach... this was great analyst work
yeah Curry is an excellent NBA player...regardless of the comparison last year's game, still the defense and the aggressiveness matters this time. That made the difference
That turnover at 10:57 made me go "wtf are you doing, man? are you trying to lose?" and im a cavs fan
Always good stuff coach!
When the world needed him most, he vanished.
Aaahh... the beauty of analytics. Good job!👍
Great analysis
Dude still had One of the Best Highlight Reels of all time this year!
Not really. Shooting a bunch of threes and crossing over big men isn't really a highlight reel material
Yeah hitting a half court shot game winner in ot is not a sick highlight
Lol no kidding. Every point guard has a highlight reel when Curry guards them.
This is the type of video that people should thumbs up, he puts a lot of time to come up with something like this.
I've been waiting for this video, Coach. Thanks!
+Andrias Kosasih 👍👊🏀
+BBALLBREAKDOWN So we still don't know what exactly happened and why he played off the ball much more when in 2015 it wasn't like that.
In your other video, you did mention that GSW does benefit a lot from curry playing off ball. I'm just curious how such a dominating MVP can suddenly disappear. There's no real acknowledgment of injury either. His movements definitely looked slow.
Injury aside, he still make very sloppy plays, passes and TO.
no we do know what happened. it's what happened all year. Kerr chose to use draymond as the point forward and have steph/klay come off of screens. The entire reason for doing this is it allows more movement from your wings. Unlike when Steph is the primary ball-handler. Everyone stands around and watches as he runs PnR with Draymond/hoists up a shot early in the clock and the offense has less movement. You dont need advanced analytics to tell you this. watch the games.
Curry, Iggy, Bogut weren't 100% healthy in 2016. Especially Curry since he was literally ballin' out through out the season and breaking the most wins in the NBA record season 73-9.
Curry was hurt but that wasn't the major factor in his performance. He simply choked and cracked under the pressure. He lost because Kyrie simply outplayed him, Lebron was a monster, his supporting cast was either injured/suspended and Barnes had the worst finals series in nba history. The biggest thing was the fact that his shot wasn't falling like it usually does and yeah its true, Curry is average when he's cold from 3 point line but if you're so good at something especially when its worth more than 2 points then why would you stop doing it. As much as you can hate curry you can't say he didn't deserve Unanimous MVP. He had the best regular season of all time, just couldn't carry it on to the playoffs
As a genuine warriors and curry fan, i feel for the loss and can only give credit to the cavs and the bad performance of the warriors.
Video's 100% right, and he didn't show up for game 7, however we have to realize that the Cavaliers defeated a banged up Warriors team. Curry's probably gonna have to have some sort of clean up surgery involving his legs, that shoulder was becoming bumish, so that took away his shot consistency. Andre Iguodala was playing banged up, and was not the former Finals MVP we saw last year. Draymond Green was 1 game out of rotation; had he not got suspended that game, they probably would have clenched the series. Bogut was out with injuries, and the Warriors were just not up to full strength. The video just details how Steph was playing injured.
And a year later, Stephen Curry bounced back to win his second NBA title in three years.
After one month of waiting. Finally this video is out.
these stats are CRAZY excellent job
You can go into a ton of detail describing how he didn't play as well as 2015, but the reason he didn't play as well was probably mental. When everyone went in on him over the shoes is when I felt like they wouldn't win the series.
Coach, thank you for all your hard work, I check your channel daily hoping for new videos.
Sorry to say that this was far from my favourite. Seems to me it would have been a better approach to compare Curry in the finals with Curry rest of the year. How did GSW try to use an injured Curry? Also; there is so much (good) stats-analysis going around on the internet, I love your channel for being something else, for showing us the moves for focusing on the actual action. Please keep doing that.I will turn of adblock and watch again, of course I will.
I completely agree, those turnovers were unexcusable, no matter what his knee felt like. Those were mostly sloppy passes.
His defense as however impacted quite a bit. He did lose his man every now and then in the regular season, so that didn't really surprise me, but it was clear that he had trouble consistently staying with people.
Similar on offense, he couldn't get seperation and that's probably due to his knee. I'd imagine him missing lots of open threes might be caused by that too.
I think the fairest thing to say is that he did indeed play bad in the finals, having stupid turnovers and being more unattentive on defense, but that his knee injury completely changed how he could attack. I also think it was a major factor in the OKC series, because he clearly couldn't get seperation there either.
Sidenote: All of that wouldn't have mattered any other Warrior (mostly Barnes, but definetly Thompsonb too) would have capitalized on the Cavs defense. They allowed a ton of open threes, and while Curry had an excuse the other Warriors could have made at least a few more.
This video is well done and shows how Steve Kerr and Steph Curry could not step up when it mattered. We have a two year sample of curry's NBA finals appearances that show he wears down physically as the play offs go along due to his small stature. He was not serious injured. Every player had pain by the time the NBA finals comes around. He just is not the same player by the time the finals come around because of the physical play and his own physical limitations.
Finally, Thank you Coach. You have redeemed my respect to you.
They also strictly played him for the three this year, last year they worried about his drive, you can tell by how Thompson guards him in 2016, same way Adams did in the OKC series.