A conversation with Jim Simons: Mathematics, Common Sense and Good Luck

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  • @MagnusAnand
    @MagnusAnand 6 місяців тому +12

    It’s always a pleasure listening to Jim.
    RIP

  • @bernardoh.fusato2280
    @bernardoh.fusato2280 2 роки тому +115

    ## Jim Simons Principles
    1. Be guided by beauty. Just as a great theoram can be very beautiful, a business managed efficiently can be beautiful.
    2. Sorround yourself by the smartest and best people you can possibly can have, and let them do their thing.
    3. Don’t run with the pack. If everyone is trying to solve the same problem or a group of people think something is the great thing to do - don’t do that. “I’m not the fastes runner, i’m not the fateste thinker”. Do something original and don’t follow the pack.
    4. Don’t give up easily. Stick with it. Not forever - but really give it a chance.
    5. Hope for good luck. This is the most important principle.

    • @Chaosdude341
      @Chaosdude341 2 роки тому

      Thanks for summarizing with articulation. :)

    • @tiagomoraes1510
      @tiagomoraes1510 7 місяців тому

      be guided by beauty - a non beautiful man

  • @descartes451
    @descartes451 2 роки тому +142

    It's helpful to see Jim talk about math. It reinforces the truth that you aren't smart enough to do what he did.

    • @bvramaiah5959
      @bvramaiah5959 2 роки тому +21

      Where there is a will there is a way.. Do it with all your heart and nature surrenders.. Or let's admire the beauty. :)

    • @Jannikheu
      @Jannikheu 2 роки тому +20

      @@bvramaiah5959 If you do trading (which is what Renaissance does) with all your heart and you have no talent, you'll be bankrupt very quickly

    • @clintwestwood4545
      @clintwestwood4545 2 роки тому +21

      @@Jannikheu lmao true. I hate these delusionally motivational sayings

    • @tomr164
      @tomr164 2 роки тому +8

      You don't have to be the smartest, as long as you can hire the smartest talent.

    • @victorolagunju
      @victorolagunju 2 роки тому +1

      @@bvramaiah5959 and lose your money

  • @aniljagruth7664
    @aniljagruth7664 6 місяців тому +9

    Always nice, wonderful to here Jim...RIP

  • @kingdevil6021
    @kingdevil6021 Рік тому +11

    For the last 10 years Mr Simon's has been a great window to what's possible.

  • @huruhooroo
    @huruhooroo 6 місяців тому +6

    "Chern said it should be multidimensional, and I said OK." That's his quote I try to remember.

  • @stefanallen2987
    @stefanallen2987 2 місяці тому +2

    this guy is living proof that if u are intelligent u can do something that nobody ever did before

  • @jamesstmanhattan
    @jamesstmanhattan 2 роки тому +23

    Don't follow the pack. Don't run with the pack. Do something original.
    Don't give up easily, stick with it.

  • @gloriajaimesa2811
    @gloriajaimesa2811 3 місяці тому

    Vague, unassuming, humble. The genie lives in the algo. The brilliance does not live in his presentation.

  • @NVSTx
    @NVSTx 2 роки тому +8

    This man is brilliant, the knowledge that is needed to even understand what he says is insane, we’ve tried to break it down in our video, hopefully it will give you a better view of how you can learn and do exactly like Jim

  • @bigpushing7167
    @bigpushing7167 3 місяці тому

    Thank you Jim

  • @bvramaiah5959
    @bvramaiah5959 2 роки тому +25

    Jim simons. Is so great he is very generous... He gave hints about his strategy very long ago.. But people should have phd in mathematics , quantum physics , astronomy and computer science.. To understand it.. And nobody takes such pain nor they are curious enough to learn all those.. Soo..no money hunny..

    • @cornagojar
      @cornagojar 2 роки тому

      what hints?

    • @bvramaiah5959
      @bvramaiah5959 2 роки тому +5

      @@cornagojar it's not the peak of mount Everest that makes you feel alive but it's the journey.. Pointing out there are hints is way too much to reveal already I guess rest is your part to do.. :)

    • @variszarins
      @variszarins 2 роки тому

      @@bvramaiah5959 You basically sound like a retarded pseudo intellectual who talks out of his own ass and nothing of what you just said has any substance. Grow up.

    • @mattpiper266
      @mattpiper266 2 роки тому +10

      Yea it’s about connections on fiber bundles or as physicists like to call it gauge theory. Started with the wu Yang dictionary where Jim was invited by the physicists to give seminars to some physicists and discovered that both fields had developed a the same framework, so a dictionary was made to go back and forth between these two fields. This dictionary is called the wu Yang dictionary. It’s one of the greatest moments in the history of science that created a revolution that still ongoing till this day. What was discovered is that the quantum theory which governs 3 of the 4 forces in nature (weak force, strong force and EM) can be explained through fiber bundle geometry. Quantum field theory which previously was thought to be a weird collection of techniques was actually a natural geometric structure.
      Now how does this relate to economics and markets you say?
      Well what is stunning is that economics has the exact same structure!!!!! But the economists have been slow to recognise this. What’s even crazier is that Nobel winner Paul Samuelson was looking for it in the 1950s when he gave his Nobel lecture. He characterised it as the non integrability of indifferent surfaces but he simply did not have the mathematical knowledge to solve it. After this discovery jim likely realised this opportunity snd thus setup a hedge fund to capitalise on this stunning discovery. Renaissance is the greatest hedge fund in history average 66% yearly for 30 yrs and genrating an estimated over 100 billion dollars in the process.

    • @bvramaiah5959
      @bvramaiah5959 2 роки тому

      @@mattpiper266 👌💯

  • @biotechresearch9008
    @biotechresearch9008 2 роки тому +40

    They have the father of quant investing to make a rare appearance on stage and this pair ask some of the most tedious, pedestrian questions...Jim had to ask several times what exactly they were asking

  • @DaviMourao
    @DaviMourao 2 роки тому +31

    Best news of this is that he's finally writing his memoirs

    • @mushrifsaidin
      @mushrifsaidin Рік тому +4

      Exactly! Hopefully he comes around to finishing it before it's too late. I know I'll be the first to snap one up.

    • @avnisha
      @avnisha Рік тому

      ​@@mushrifsaidinhas he finished?

    • @s1lli
      @s1lli 4 місяці тому

      @@mushrifsaidin did he ever finish?

  • @Therecouldbehope
    @Therecouldbehope 3 місяці тому +2

    Where can we find Simon’s thesis ? He said they are in the ‘annal’? Thx

  • @mikestarks8464
    @mikestarks8464 2 роки тому +25

    i have listened to Zuckerman's audiobook 100 times. A huge key takeaway for me....Simons was persistent for years pushing towards systemization when no one was doing it. Also, his hiring and management of staff was nothing short of brilliant. I have started 7 businesses...doing what he did, when he did it, how he did it and today they are stronger than ever is rare rare rare.

    • @rohitbtsarmy4356
      @rohitbtsarmy4356 2 роки тому

      Can u pls explain last 3lines, from i have started 7 business
      I'm confused whether u r refering urself or simon

    • @mikestarks8464
      @mikestarks8464 2 роки тому

      @@rohitbtsarmy4356 I have started the business...me

    • @rohitbtsarmy4356
      @rohitbtsarmy4356 2 роки тому

      @@mikestarks8464 tq , do u tell me, other great person similar to simon

    • @kingdevil6021
      @kingdevil6021 Рік тому

      Yeah I think I know what you mean. And also he might be looking at things differently. Are you finance background for example?

    • @kingdevil6021
      @kingdevil6021 Рік тому

      Also Zuckermann says the most important thing: James loved making money
      IMO that's the most thing.

  • @CoNVertibleJay
    @CoNVertibleJay 2 роки тому +14

    What a legend this guy is!

    • @kbriggs21
      @kbriggs21 2 роки тому +1

      I just heard about him and I've watched and read as much as I can. What a fascinating person and life.

    • @kuchikibyakuya7697
      @kuchikibyakuya7697 2 роки тому

      Smartest billionaire

  • @wilspu5590
    @wilspu5590 2 роки тому +3

    Bless him, he now looking very tired

  • @cauchyschwarz9759
    @cauchyschwarz9759 2 роки тому +5

    Very good interview

  • @shirleysharma2161
    @shirleysharma2161 6 місяців тому

    It'll be nice to know how the tic happens. I know demand and supply are factors but how does it happen?

  • @mabhadubhadunongombili1511
    @mabhadubhadunongombili1511 5 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @rockshow2080
    @rockshow2080 2 роки тому +8

    The man who solved the market, what a legend. But painful to hear the silly questions being asked. And hes a very old man, so normal for him to be a bit slow and bad hearing.

  • @gustavochula1539
    @gustavochula1539 2 роки тому +10

    Best investor in the world.

    • @variszarins
      @variszarins 2 роки тому +2

      Warren Buffett.

    • @jeffreyschnitman2484
      @jeffreyschnitman2484 Рік тому +2

      Please forgive me, Simmons is using algorithms to mine data knowing when to buy and sell security at the right time.

    • @RR-et6zp
      @RR-et6zp 6 місяців тому

      his traders were prioritized before other people's , that was a big secret

    • @RR-et6zp
      @RR-et6zp 6 місяців тому

      @@jeffreyschnitman2484 his traders were prioritized before other people's , that was a big secret

    • @gloriajaimesa2811
      @gloriajaimesa2811 3 місяці тому

      I fully disagree. Call me prehistoric, but building algos is far from the fundamental, which is investing in real world.

  • @seppbarbetta5156
    @seppbarbetta5156 11 місяців тому

    THANK YOU :-)

  • @streetballgh
    @streetballgh 6 місяців тому

    RIP John Simmons. Wall Street is grateful

  • @Samarth-xx2lg
    @Samarth-xx2lg 2 роки тому +11

    He Played Very Well trying not leak

  • @sofjen
    @sofjen 6 місяців тому

    briliant man !

  • @rantg
    @rantg Рік тому +2

    all of that and not a single example of a math field used to trade, not a single one, which is the most interesting question. What anomalies do you find, how for example, etc.

    • @talwaar007
      @talwaar007 2 місяці тому

      Because of course that’s what one does, reveal one’s proprietary algorithms and techniques to all and sundry so that in a matter of weeks they are useless. Lol.

  • @Mike-gd2fv
    @Mike-gd2fv 8 місяців тому

    he is the goat...

  • @aammssaamm
    @aammssaamm 5 місяців тому

    Price follows the interest rate.

  • @mikiallen7733
    @mikiallen7733 2 роки тому +1

    But above he rightly hired and employed Daniel Bernoulli's work on emolumentum

  • @Danaadiong
    @Danaadiong 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤munomental boundary and territory .the stone the builders rejected had become a cupstone.

  • @gabrielsandstedt
    @gabrielsandstedt 2 роки тому

    Interesting.
    Just curious, does he have a large hole in his top right ear ( see the white spot at 09:43 )
    or is it just the glasses?

    • @KalelSonOfDurel
      @KalelSonOfDurel 2 роки тому

      Seems like a hole in his ear to me. Wasn't there a year ago. Skin cancer treatment, perhaps?

    • @jespervalgreen6461
      @jespervalgreen6461 2 роки тому +1

      It's the microphone

  • @dukeofdubuque950
    @dukeofdubuque950 Рік тому +3

    Congratulations to any of you who knows what the heck he's talking about.

    • @jeffreyschnitman2484
      @jeffreyschnitman2484 Рік тому

      He's just rambling. I took a few classes ar StonyBrook. Nice place.

  • @neidesouza1976
    @neidesouza1976 2 місяці тому

    what a piece

  • @CristobalRuiz
    @CristobalRuiz 2 роки тому +6

    "Proprietary data" LOL

  • @piyushdamor4826
    @piyushdamor4826 2 роки тому +8

    Richest Mathematician

    • @piyushdamor4826
      @piyushdamor4826 2 роки тому +9

      @Rick Sanchez D99 Technically engineers are not mathematicians and engineering is applied physics .

    • @wideputin5194
      @wideputin5194 2 роки тому +5

      @Rick Sanchez D99 No. Applied mathematics is a field, usually one could only be (called) an applied mathematician after one obtained a PhD degree in mathematics/applied mathematics or related field. Studying in applied mathematics involved working with lots of theorems, proofs rigorously which I doubt engineers nowadays can do any.

    • @wideputin5194
      @wideputin5194 2 роки тому +6

      To put it briefly, applied mathematician is a subset of mathematician, but engineers is not a subset of mathematician, therefore engineers clearly are not applied mathematician.

    • @piyushdamor4826
      @piyushdamor4826 2 роки тому +2

      @Rick Sanchez D99 There are many fields where mathematical applications are required but it doesn't mean all of them are applied mathematics .

    • @AlgoNudger
      @AlgoNudger 2 роки тому

      @Rick Sanchez D99 SANCHEZ is talking about Physics and Math?!?!
      ROFL 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ashabisht8051
    @ashabisht8051 Рік тому

    Very interesting

  • @elliotpolanco159
    @elliotpolanco159 2 роки тому +7

    I Hope Simons has the best healthcare he doesn't seem too healthy for some reason.

    • @broombroom3208
      @broombroom3208 2 роки тому +4

      He is 84 btw. ANd writing his memoirs... should probably tell you something...

    • @irinaspalko7846
      @irinaspalko7846 2 роки тому +2

      I had a similar impression, esp. compared to some other interviews I watched only a couple of years ago. Hopefully not something serious and he was just exhausted or something.

    • @Izzy-ve3xz
      @Izzy-ve3xz 2 роки тому +1

      @@irinaspalko7846 Idk I've noticed in other interviews he speaks pretty slowly. He's pretty efficient with his words and speaks to the point. I wouldn't say it seems like he's unhealthy especially for being 84 and speaking about maths like this.

    • @DaviMourao
      @DaviMourao 2 роки тому +2

      @@broombroom3208 and also a lifelong heavy smoker

    • @whatever-wn1nk
      @whatever-wn1nk Рік тому +4

      he is a smoker

  • @chiawildy563
    @chiawildy563 2 роки тому +2

    And, he still doesn't have the habit of wearing socks.

  • @nimamahmoudifar
    @nimamahmoudifar 6 місяців тому

    who is dennis?

  • @heribertohernandez9713
    @heribertohernandez9713 6 місяців тому

    🚀

  • @ProfitableRetailTrader
    @ProfitableRetailTrader 5 місяців тому

    19:30 5 Priciples

  • @bbsara0146
    @bbsara0146 2 роки тому

    Does he even know what the secret medallion strategy is tho or does he just collect the huge profits, and his workers manage the codes?

  • @CaptainPlanet007
    @CaptainPlanet007 2 роки тому

    I have no idea what he’s saying but since he’s a billionaire I’m listening with both ears opening lol!

  • @robertcliffort2354
    @robertcliffort2354 Рік тому

    NICE.

  • @penelopeelsie1771
    @penelopeelsie1771 Рік тому +20

    This is a good video, I will forever be indebted to you Gardner 😇you’ve changed my whole life I’ll continue to preach about your name for the world to hear you’ve saved me from a huge financial debt with just little investment in money market, thanks so much Mrs Rose Gardner

    • @elwynphineas9498
      @elwynphineas9498 Рік тому +1

      As a high school teacher, I got introduced to Ms, Gardner during the pandemic year, I cried about challenges I was facing here in Ireland, during my time working with her, I was able generate returns on my investment.

    • @bradleyhouston8471
      @bradleyhouston8471 Рік тому +1

      It hasn’t been easy trying to invest as a newbie with few knowledge. I’m trying to create a new stream of passive income. How can i reach out to her? she could be of great help

    • @penelopeelsie1771
      @penelopeelsie1771 Рік тому +3

      @ROSEGARDNERBIS

    • @FREEFOREXTRADINGSIGNALS
      @FREEFOREXTRADINGSIGNALS Рік тому

      Hi, I train forex trading at a fee of 450 USD, slightly negotiable. The strategy works on any pair

  • @stelios83
    @stelios83 2 роки тому

    Who is Dennis?

    • @jespervalgreen6461
      @jespervalgreen6461 2 роки тому +4

      His close friend, mathematician Dennis Sullivan, 2022 Abel Prize recipient, and so the reason Jim Simons is in Oslo.

    • @kuchikibyakuya7697
      @kuchikibyakuya7697 2 роки тому

      Richard dennis?

  • @irinaspalko7846
    @irinaspalko7846 6 місяців тому

    RIP 🙁

  • @valboolin3538
    @valboolin3538 6 місяців тому

    Do you have Google

  • @thoughtprovoking2916
    @thoughtprovoking2916 8 місяців тому +1

    "i dont think we have any proprietary data"... meanwhile he describes math that relates to people who investigate time travel... ok Jim lol

  • @scalpot
    @scalpot Рік тому

    41:00

  • @matthewmc4363
    @matthewmc4363 Рік тому

    This mother,
    Dealt with the Ochoas. Thus the American military.cia.

  • @sofjen
    @sofjen 6 місяців тому

    15:50

  • @thoughtprovoking2916
    @thoughtprovoking2916 8 місяців тому

    oh yeah.... hes knows some secret government shit FOR SURE

  • @winstonphua8258
    @winstonphua8258 2 роки тому +1

    If I

  • @billwalton4571
    @billwalton4571 5 місяців тому +1

    He didnt give anything away. "Its time series data". And so friken what, give us your method! NOW!

  • @anilraghu8687
    @anilraghu8687 Рік тому +1

    Finance man asking too many questions. Showd have let maths guy ask more questions

  • @jeffreyschnitman2484
    @jeffreyschnitman2484 Рік тому

    It's sad that a professor at Harvard can't make a living

  • @MostafaMelba
    @MostafaMelba Рік тому

    Just don't give a straight answer 😂

  • @tathanhdinh
    @tathanhdinh 6 місяців тому

    13:42: Is it true that you never hired people from the investment industry? Never.

  • @dynamics9000
    @dynamics9000 2 роки тому +2

    Passive income is the only way you can be part of 10% population and seprate yourself from the Average population. YASIN NABI~~

  • @nebaadi1
    @nebaadi1 2 роки тому +5

    May Allah guide you to the straight path of Islam Jim Simons

  • @khalidhakimi93
    @khalidhakimi93 2 роки тому +1

    notice how in the end he said he started with fundamentals and wasn't technical at all. and you have these gurus telling you how important fundamentals are lool and the richest man done it using technical

  • @Anon123454
    @Anon123454 2 роки тому +6

    He's full of BS in responding to the "which type of data do you collect" question - doesn't want to reveal the secret sauce lol

    • @watchingvideos9871
      @watchingvideos9871 2 роки тому

      I don’t believe this is true although this has been the narrative for years.

    • @stelios83
      @stelios83 2 роки тому +6

      Dont jump the gun here buddy. What he means is that they are collecting all possible publicly available data. How his system interprets the correlation between that vast amount of information….. that is the million dollar question and he wont give it away ofcourse

    • @darluok23
      @darluok23 Рік тому +1

      @@stelios83it’s the multibillion dollar question!

    • @surfingbilly9654
      @surfingbilly9654 Рік тому +1

      they definitely collect more than just publicly available data, 90% of financial quantitative analysis is having access to higher quality data than the market.

    • @RostamiMehdi
      @RostamiMehdi 7 місяців тому

      If he reveals, you and I wouldn't benefit. Other rich guys would use them and make money.

  • @Little-bird-told-me
    @Little-bird-told-me Рік тому

    Humility is not one of his qualities. All though he is a great guy, I get a visceral antipathy when I hear him speak.

    • @jamesrav
      @jamesrav 5 місяців тому +2

      I don't sense that, I think it's just his brusque, direct manner. He always acknowledges when others had solutions - he admits he relied on great talent. I think he'd say he was a very good mathematician, but perhaps knew little else.

    • @Little-bird-told-me
      @Little-bird-told-me 5 місяців тому

      @@jamesrav the man was lucky too, he was a chain smoker yet lived to be 86. Good for him, though.

  • @jasoncloner
    @jasoncloner 9 місяців тому +1

    but didn't he take away smart people from doing useful work for society and used them to pile up cash? shame really

    • @billwalton4571
      @billwalton4571 5 місяців тому

      yeah the is a doctor that quite his job to be a fulltime trader with gareth soloway

  • @jg-up1jl
    @jg-up1jl Рік тому

    dudes full of himself…writing his own obituary…pathetic