Billy Sheehan on Jamming With Jaco Pastorius
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Legendary bassist Billy Sheehan recalls jamming with Jaco Pastorius.
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Jaco remains unmatched.
Fretless bass has nowadays plenty of performers but Jaco is the spirit and the shape of anything made today... As a bass player I can tell you he was, is and will be THE bassist
Without a doubt
I saw Jaco and Stanley Clarke both during their prime in 70's and 80's on numerous occasions and while Jaco is truly a fretless innovator he was no comparison or match when Stanley really turned it on. Not even in the same league, Clarke's range was so much more expansive. If you haven't seen Clarke live you wouldn't know.
@@ShangoDC I'm a huge fan of both, but you can't say that Stanley's better than Jaco. Music's not a competition. They're two legends and Jaco was a musical genius
@@bassbymichele I would like to agree with you that music not a competition, but it’s some fans, musicians and media that speak of Jaco as the greatest bassist. Billy Sheehan is prime example here. Jaco was great, but he’s not the totally player the Stanley is pertaining to bass. A lot of this Jaco myth came after his death. I’m going to stop short of saying it’s not even close. Have you really heard Stanley live in comparison to Jaco live? Stanley can play rings around Jaco. The media and fans needed Jaco as bass hero.
Jaco was one of the few bass players who could touch your soul.
"Punk Jazz" is a composition by Jaco Pastorius... which is track #6 on Weather Report's album, "Mr. Gone".
Saw Jaco several times from Heavy Weather, 8:30 tours and others. The Word of Mouth band twice. Unmatched to this day. The best.
So many of Billy's interviews focus on kindness and respect. It's so moving and wonderful. Became his eternal fan in 1986 and certainly won't stop now.
Pastorius + Metheny = Fire
Jean-Michau Michou this is a very true statement
Pastorius and Joni Mitchell as well were quite something.
Chris Kozub your comment is right on, Metheny talks about playing with Jaco being so nice, but the truth that for Bright Size Life he was most in favor or having a more tradicional double bass pleyer in the record. He was an up and coming player and Jaco was too strong and innovative, Bob Moses pretty much suggested Metheny was almost not keeping it in the line up and that the record was 1/10th of the vibe they had playing live. Mosos has been quoted saying he will not even listen to it anymore.
Bright Size Life
Bright Size Life is perfection
Jaco not only played bass well. He was also a composer who understood music theory harmony. Listen to how he voiced chords.
Billy is in a class by himself- a rock player who is instantly recognizable within 2 notes.
His respect for players like Jaco and Jeff, along with Bogert, and other rock greats is very telling of how much of a cool guy he is.
Just as no one could play like Jaco without getting called out on it, no one can do Billy’s thing without getting called out- THAT is SOMETHING!
Exactly 1 out of 1,000 here will have even heard of Jaco.
100 views and here I am, more like 2 out of 100 xD
There's hope!
make that 3
216trixie watch the documentary on him made by Robert Trujillo
Jaco was awesome. I remember saving money as a kid to buy his instructional DVD. Though he wasn't in the best of shape the soul was still present.
When Mr. Big had some hits, I thought, I wonder how many people know how awesome a bass player Billy Sheehan is. Then there is Jaco.
and then .............mic drop .
Nice to see some love for Jaco still going so many years after his tragic death !! ( thanks Billy ) .The Paganini of the electric bass .Any bass player reading this that hasn't checked out Jaco's playing , please do , you won't be disappointed i can guarantee that . RIP Jaco , you were the greatest ! hands down !
Billy is one of the greats, no doubt. I was 15 year old ordering Talas at my local record store back in the 80s.
Jaco was pretty incredible.
Reminds me of Chris Farley doing the interview...”Do you remember playing with Jaco?....That was really cool”
Punk Jazz, and that's why Jaco Pastorius is one of the greatest bass players ever. I'm a bass player. Jaco and Sheehan are bass players I really love a lot. Other than that, long live Jaco Pastorius:).
Funny, you ask that same question to Jaco, and he would probably say himself, then Ron Carter, & Mingus were the greatest bass players. The thing that most rock guys will never understand is that the best musicians in the past 50 to 60 years have been in jazz or jazz fusion. I mean who in rock could be better than (Zawinul, Hancock, Hammer, Corea, Duke) on keyboard? Or who in rock could be better in drums than (Cobham, Tony Williams, Mouzon, Walden).bass (Jaco, Stanley, Wooten, Alphonso Johnson). And then we get to guitar, when I go with (McLaughlin, Shawn Lane, Allan Holdsworth) and can't nobody touch those guys let alone (Di Meola, Coryell, Mike Stern, Pat Metheny). Many of these guys who can play equally as good acoustically as electrically.
Blue&Orange - If you really know Jazz Mingus would be in that list but Carter unlikely or shouldn't be in my opinion. Carter is great but he is helped in his recognition because of the Miles association. Some people even think Carter is overrated and complain about his intonation and solos which I disagree with btw! If I were to do a list of the greatest in Jazz bass before Jaco these players would come before Carter. Jimmy Blanton, (I will not choose any pre-Blanton players), Oscar Pettiford who imo is the GOAT or very close to it. Mingus. Wilbur Ware. Richard Davis. Paul Chambers & Doug Watkins. Scott LaFaro & Charlie Haden. With a few of these names I would understand arguments for Carter being the preference but with Blanton, Pettiford, Mingus, Davis & LaFaro there is no argument if you really know the history of bass playing in Jazz.
Blue&Orange - Totally agree with the rest of your points though!
Blue&Orange I agree with you but there is one guy in Rock that is very literate Uli Jon Roth that guy is in another world . And he starts off with Jazz trumpets lessons before going Classical and Rock
Blue & Orange, obviously you've had your head in the sand for the last 23 years...A vast majority of metal and rock players know very well that jazz musicians are tops, which is why they incorporate that style into their music..If you haven't heard Cynic, Atheist,Watchtower, Naked City(jazz musicians using hardcore punk) or other bands of that ilk, then you should keep quiet
Zorn for the win
A great overlooked bass player Free's Andy Fraser.
Mister Sheehan, from now on. Great respect and love.
That list Billy says in the beginning, if you add his name, with Jaco of course, hell , that's my list and few thousand others list!
Modern Bass player , Jaco Pastorius , no doubt :)
Great words!! Jaco IS the man!!
Wow.. Jaco you da Man
The movie Sheehan's talking about is on Netflix. It's very good!
I encourage everyone to watch the documentary film, titled "Jaco." You might even be able to find it on YT.
Jaco will Always Be the Man
Flea should agree, Jaco was a monster, hella-control
Billy Sheehan is a class act. Good man for giving high credit to Jaco.
Billy is right up there at the top of the list also! A great ambassador for music as well.
Nice of Billy to mention Timmy Bogert. He is generally overlooked, but what a groundbreaking bassist!
Always a class act.
I was not aware of Jaco until seeing the film by the same name, which was produced by Robert Trujillo of Metallica by the way. It was easy to see the amount of influence he had on so many bass players though. If you are a fan of any music, this is an absolute must-see and you should pay homage to him. Having said that, this was an interview with Billy Sheehan. His humility is astounding considering he is right up there with Jaco.
James Smith Billy is no where near jacos level of musicianship but Billy is a good player though
Skylar Cook Jaco was a composer, an arranger- when it comes to bass playing, he forged his own voice- but his music could be arranged for a bass-less ensemble and still stand.
Sheehan has his own voice, and is instantly recognizable.
Although he didn’t know as much harmony as Jaco in his early days, he continued to grow and learn-
As to the fact they are both recognizable on the bass almost more than any others in their respective fields puts them on par in that regard.
Billy’s coolest stuff, in my opinion, comes from him NOT knowing the theory behind what he’s doing- but if you want to hear exactly how good he is- check out the clinics where he was playing everything from his own stuff, to Bach. He has the best practice routine, his chops have NEVER deteriorated-
Billy is such a humble badass. JACO may be the greatest but Billy is still unmatched too in both his playing and his generosity.
Billy himself is an absolute legend !
I just wanted to hear Billy.
Jaco is the man .
This is like Ed Van Halen talking about Hendrix.
Gabriel Martins Funny thing is, Billy Sheehan is considered to be "the Eddie Van Halen of the bass" xD
...that was my point.
Gabriel Martins Hm okay then xd
Funny thing is Billy Sheehan was actually asked to join Van Halen twice.
even if I don't like his bass sound I like his play.
The greatest is Billy Sheehan
cool
Very cool interview! Billy and Jaco are a both excellent bass players, both have awesome technique, and both have a distinct sound and style.
Thank you for your comment about the movie. It could have been far better focused.
Cliff is the Jaco of Metal 😂
Check out Jaco: The Film. Documentary, produced by Robert Trujillio (Metallica's drummer).
uhhh... Metallica's BASS Player.
BASS PLAYER!!!! The drummer is Lars Ulrich
Trujillo does a better job at kreping the groove than Lars
I personally would say Jamerson was the best of all time
Right on! Different dudes but Jamerson is total top notch. If I had to pick someone to mimic on bass it'd be Jamerson.
I've been listening to Jaco since his debut album in 1976 and I love his playing tremendously, but Stanley Clarke in my deepest opinion set the standard for solo electric bass. No one did more for the instrument than Stanley back in the 70's or to date for that matter.
There has been a long running debt about Stanley Clarke and Jaco. In my opinion Stanley is extremely influential and a revolutionary of the bass.
No comparison. Both are completely different bass players, but Jaco was in a league of his own in my opinion. I never heard much fretless work from Stanley Clarke. Not saying he didn’t play fretless just saying I never heard much.
@@jackdempsey9644 As stated by Stanley himself he's first an acoustic bass player that switched to electric. He never had the need to play fretless, because the upright was fretless. He was the first bassist to double and master both instruments equally. Clarke was the first superstar of lead solo bass playing, about three or four years before Jaco came to national prominence.
@@ShangoDC Oh, no doubt that SC is a beast. I know about his upright work, I was just talking about fretless electric. Both Jaco and Stanley are amazing innovators. I just feel Jaco had an expression that has been unmatched.
@@jackdempsey9644 BBC Radio 3 did a four part documentary on Jaco back in the late 1990s. It was told in story format but everyone was interviewed from Bobby Colomby, to Zawinul, Shorter, Erskine, Joni Mitchell, Metheny, Mike Stern, Othello Molineaux, his daughter Mary and others including guys he grew up with like Bobby Economou.
I can't remember if it was Bobby Economu or Bob Bobbing who said it, but they said Jaco told them whilst he was with Wayne Cochrane and CC Riders that he learned James Brown horn parts and applied them to the bass.
If you listen to "Come on Come Over", the bass line is totally different to what any other bass player was doing at the time; the horn section on the song echoed the bassline, so essentially it was a horn line he wrote for the tune, which he applied to the bass.
It really doesn't get more innovative than that, so he changed the whole concept of bass playing. And we haven't even mentioned taking the frets off and discovering a new sound, plus harmonics.
I have seen Stanley Clarke live more than once, playing both the Alembic and acoustic bass.
But I might have to agree Jaco was a slight notch above, purely for his innovation and genius in that regard, and his influence on how people approached bass guitar playing. Even after all these decades, the immitators still can't match Jaco's technique and feel which stand out.
Its also worth noting that throughout the four part documentary, Jaco's father and two brothers were also extensively interviewed. One brother called Gregory, unfortunately I can't remember the name of his other brother.
Yeah Billie in "your opinion" ( respectively) However Stanley Clarke rain before, during and after the great Jaco...fact!
Jaco created a sound and attitude...a new school for bassists that still inspires to this day. Stanley was great but seemed to extend the possibilities of old school bass playing. In the bed both are great...Jaco...total original.
I'm so glad you recognized that Stanley Clarke was the standard bearer and liberator of the electric bass before Jaco had a national audience. He was and still is the first superstar of the electric bass. No disrespect to Jaco, but someone named Stanley Clarke opened the fluid gates first. Thank you for setting the record straight.
@@samsmith4216 Have you really heard all of Stanley Clarke's major and minor music. He was the standard bearer and innovatior three or four years before Jaco. I saw both player live in prime in 70's and 80's alot and it wasn't even close. In death Jaco seems to get all this credit, but he's no Stanley Clarke when it comes range, techquie etc.
Can't wait for ignorant, non-musician fanboys to go "This Jaco guy is shit, Cliff Burton was the best bassist evah!"
Aris Theocharis they're both fenominal bassist, just depends what you like more. I'm a punk rocker but I will still hold Jaco above Cliff
Aris Theocharis any good bassist knows that cliff was fairly average. He was not even close to guys like sheehan, jaco, or even his own personal idol, geddy lee. All far superior to cliff. Cliff never played anything difficult. Its just that he was a finger plucker in a metal band which wasnt very common back then, so he got recognition for that, but as a bassist i mean he was pretty average.
Cliff?? Lol..Cliff was really below standard..sorry. Nowhere near Jaco..in any way shape or form. Burton was just flash and flam..I'v heard lil japanese girls aged 14 who play way beyond anything Burton could have done..Burton was.."okay"...that's about it.
Aris Theocharis ur hit
You are all jackasses...Ok, Cliff was no Jaco BUT to dismiss his playing as below average is ignorant..Understand that next to Geezer, Cliff used distortion and wah(and some tapping) in a very musical way that was unheard of for thrash at that time..In addition, he bought a classical sense to his compositions that most metal bassists didn't. Also, remember he only had 3 albums with Metallica and was still growing as a musician before his death not to mention being way ahead of the game in the underground metal(at that time) world
It's hard to say, but J was the only great bass player who was also a great composer. Jack Bruce maybe.
I thought it said Jacob sartorious then I was about to 🔫
Jamie Sturd that wouldve made a good video too, make him listen and bash the little fucker
Is killer of Jaco ever convicted?
"Billy Sheen is not my son"
He's just a kid that overplay his bass runs
@@ghettoman1238 He skids through the II/V/I
Billy is being respectful. He blows past Jaco in technical ability. Style and writing?...don't know
There ARE,WILL BE,the "GREATEST" ANYTHING!! The whole EGO thing is USELESS!!
thought he was gonna say Xenu for his cult
Why on earth does Billy Sheehan have a mustard stain on his face
Where else would one have a mustard stain?
scientologist alert.
Lemmy is awesome, but his bass playing is not that great.
Jaco had a lot of charisma and tremendous personality on stage, but Stanley Clarke is a far better improviser than Jaco and could play rings around him. Has anyone REALLY seen Stanley live especially in the 70’s and 80’s. If you had you would know why this statement by Billy is so false.
Billy being modest here. Jaco was good, but he was no Billy.
teppolundgren Jaco completely revolutionized the instrument though
teppolundgren he was better
Technique vs substance. Jaco had both
Oh God, Jaco and Sheehan playing together? Sounds like a bass diarrhea nightmare.
geddy is the best
Its arguable that he is even the best Canadian Bass Player... I'd pick Steve Lang or Fred Turner over Geddy. Jaco was the Best.
the only bass player from a Canadian band that is in Geddy's league would be mars cowling... Steve Lang lol ..... Fred Turner LOL absolutely hilarious.. you made my day. Do you tell jokes for a living? or do you just get lucky once and a while? or are you just a complete clueless azzhole?
takin' care of biz-ness everyday!!!!! LET it ride!!!!
you are a joker... absolutely Hilarious I'm on the floor in tears I am laughing so hard right now. Please tell me you are serous so I can at-least feel sorry for you
Yeah, that's how they got rated Canada's most overrated artists... they even beat out Justin Bieber for that spot. Hell, in the same band he is outshined as a musician by Peart. www.thetoptens.com/overrated-canadian-artists/ You need to watch the Jaco Movie. ALL THE GREATS point to Jaco! It was even produced by Rob Trujillo.
Sorry, on those 10 albums you take to a desert island, Rush would never be one... BTO, maybe.
Oh, and Mars wasn't Canadian, he was English... he only played with a Canadian - Travers.
Well, at least neither of us brought up Nickel@$%*.... I can't even type it.
BTO was very very cheezy, April Wine was just run of the mill cheezy. Not a terribly bad band, but very cliche and not very good either. None of their players were anywhere above average by today's standards. This is why I can't even really take you seriously. But I will try.... so here goes:
I know Mars was from the UK but Pat Travers band was considered a 'Canadian' band. Hence why I never stated actually Mars himeslf was Canadian, but rather he was the only bass player from a 'Canadian band' that was on Geddy's musical level.... Read my original wording.
As far as Jaco vs Geddy, it comes down to diversity and it comes down to longevity and it comes down to versatility. I think if any logical person compared the work of Geddy vs the work of Jaco, it is clear Geddy can play anything Jaco played but Geddy covered way more musical styles will still retaining his own unique sound in the process. also Geddy was playing Jaco style lines before Jaco. Geddy is also way more melodic...way more. Geddy is very rhythmic and melodic. Jaco was more "scaley" as opposed to being melodic. He was not very rythmic. It was more about scales.
One can make an argument Jaco was Superior to Geddy, but BTO? if they weren't; so pathetic they would actually be funny. Listen to Permanent waves and Hemispheres from front to back and put in context of musical era and you will realize how silly you are
Rob Trujillo is a joker, kinda like you. I don't give a shit what you or Rob think about bass. Jaco was a one trick pony. He was great but it's tiring and repetitive after a while. He plays the same scale and harmonics in every song. Did he write one good riff? Geddy wrote literately hundereds. Jaco's harmonics tricks tend to sound like someone tuning up. His bass line sound like a sam and dave song. He had a great feel no doubt, but Geddy does as well.
+James Rockford too much cold weather, too many Molsons and Jelly Donuts in your past... Canadian beer goggles for Mr. Weinrib?? Following your criteria, Justin Chancellor is far superior and definitely more relevant. Even Geddy says his own methods are flawed. You're right, my opinion is only mine... Rob Trujillo's should carry more weight... But since you are suuuuccchhh a Geddy fanboy, you should take his word on Jaco... rushvault.com/2013/04/07/geddy-puts-jaco-pastorius-on-bass-player-mountaintop/
Away from Rush, Geddy did an admirable job filling in for Chris Squire with YES this year. Perhaps my favorite Geddy Lee performance ever. But then he was playing someone's else' music.
And "Jaco was a one trick pony"... with that one statement you lose all musical credibility. Enjoy your Rush, Fanboy. But in a 3-piece, I'd rather listen to Cream... ZZ-Top... Motorhead... Jimi Hendrix Experience