I find it unfortunate that a lot of this discussion is focused on "Ryabko is better" or "Kono is better": the reality is both of these people are masters who have developed their art deeply. What we get to witness is a real exchange of learning between two people for everyone's understanding. However, I also think that, as video spectators, we are completely excluded from the massive amounts of information passing, physically, between the two of them. This was a real treat to watch. Thanks for uploading!
Pls don't misunderstood...Michael is showing how to avoid to be cut....Kono is trying to understand the above philosophy..it is not a real combat it is not demonstration for who is better. The arguments have no place to any of their heart. (I am making this note cause i have met both of them)
The DOJO Exactly ! This is not a "I am better than you" demonstration. It is the study of sensitivity. If anyone has practiced with Mikhail ( I did), you know that this is his moto: "Remove tension". This one of the most important achievement in one's life. not just in combat, not just at the dojo, but in one's everyday life: if you can deal with "things" in your life without tension, the outcome is usually dramatically improved.
50-50.. Number 1, Ryabko's hand cut off..Kono's feint won. Number 2..cut at elbow fold but recovered sword, Ryabko won. Number 3, classic Ryabko disarm, successful. Ryabko won. Number 4.. deception by Kono, stomach cut open.. Ryabko lost.
gekiryudojo Hi Geki-ryu, I was completely wrong. A closer analysis shows Kono won in each case. Number 1: Kono cut Ryabko twice on the wrist. In #2: Kono had already cut Ryabko as Ryabko moved to the side through the straight-cut deception. Kono had a clear right kesa cut from top-right to bottom-left. 3: Same as two, except he had already cut Ryabko the moment he raised his sword. 4: This was the most tragic. If you got to 1:10, you will see Kono cut into Ryabko's liver.. So, there can be no disarm here.. post-death. I was almost going to give credit to Ryabko for cutting himself on #4, but then I rewound and found that Kono had put intent into the cut.. so no. Ryabko lost in this video, and he lost completely.. It would be basically impossible to go against Kono without a sword of your own.. I think. Unarmed is suicide..
I get this was all in good fun, but its insulting. Ryabko dances around pretending that he would somehow not be cut by the blade. Master Yoshinori is one of the greatest masters of our generation. Mikhail Ryabko is joke, plain and simple. sorry to be so blunt.
No It's not "plain and simple" as you say..Ryabko is no "joke"..To you, the measure is Ryabko who is fighting a master swordsman unarmed and he misses the mark and gets cut and so he's a joke? Really? This is your basis?..If Ryabko slashed back after taking the sword away then what? You really think Kono could get away and do better? Your opinion isn't reality. Stick to what is..Reason and logic is reality..
shoulung Kono was Tetsuzan's mentor in many ways, especially for jujitsu. Each style of sword is different, with different aims. But, the true test of mastery depends on who is more creative and who more trained. By 'creative', I mean, the one who has thought through the problem sets and found solutions. You don't go into a war without preparation. The same can be said for a sword fight. Knowing yourself is a start, but then, like Musashi said, knowing your enemy is the other half of the battle. Ironically, as few of the intuitive, Zen-inspired, martial artists know, nothing can be left to chance.. If you don't know the answer to a particular move, you might as well give up from the start. K & T are friends, as you may know, but if there was to be a friendly exchange of blades, it's likely they would discuss the problems, weaknesses, and opportunities that emerged out of their interaction, in a cooperative way, over a cup of green tea and some rice crackers.
Kono was not Kuroda Tetsuzan's mentor. even both does not claim sucha things.he just collaborated and trained with Tetsuzan.Kuroda sensei even advised Kono to learn a JSA under a mentor seriously. i m very sorry many ppl recognize Kono as a 'master' despite he does not have any menkyo or even mokuroku in any ryu-ha. most of serious practioner in JSA think he is superficial and not legit.but mass media praised him as a master and he became famous.sadly, since then many ppl took him as a master.
First time i see Mikhail in trouble. See how many times he gets cut, but for some reason the audience laughs with him when he painstakingly manages to get the blade away from Kono, as if he's played a good joke on Kono. Well it seems bare hands is no match to a live blade, who would have thought?
Master Pot Belly, only fight in Slow Motion as his real fight Movements are too fast for the Camera to catch. Master Pot Belly might look Fat, however it is all due to bad Camera Angles.
Ryabko es un payaso. Claramente Kono esta colaborando para que Ryabko no quede en ridiculo. Si hacemos esto con realismo Kono lo corta todo. Es una locura total pensar que ryabko puede hacer esas tecnicas en la realidad.
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I find it unfortunate that a lot of this discussion is focused on "Ryabko is better" or "Kono is better": the reality is both of these people are masters who have developed their art deeply. What we get to witness is a real exchange of learning between two people for everyone's understanding. However, I also think that, as video spectators, we are completely excluded from the massive amounts of information passing, physically, between the two of them.
This was a real treat to watch. Thanks for uploading!
ミカエル、ヨシノリの複雑な緩急に何で余裕で反応できるんだ？？？異次元すぎる…
甲野先生システマまで参考にしようとしているとは！
すごい探求心。。
Merci pour ces images, très intéressant, rare de voir 2 maîtres apprendre ensemble.
Clearly Kono sensei is being cooperative and nice so Mr. Ryabko can show his ideas......
and viceversa
Pls don't misunderstood...Michael is showing how to avoid to be cut....Kono is trying to understand the above philosophy..it is not a real combat it is not demonstration for who is better.
The arguments have no place to any of their heart.
(I am making this note cause i have met both of them)
The DOJO Exactly ! This is not a "I am better than you" demonstration. It is the study of sensitivity. If anyone has practiced with Mikhail ( I did), you know that this is his moto: "Remove tension". This one of the most important achievement in one's life. not just in combat, not just at the dojo, but in one's everyday life: if you can deal with "things" in your life without tension, the outcome is usually dramatically improved.
But then why Kono did this? He does’t need to that I guess.
Some one can do it instead of him
But I know, thank you for teaching that.
Most people will misunderstand.
誤解の無いよう言っておきますが、これはミカエル先生の刃物への対処のデモンストレーションに、甲野先生が協力している状態です。勿論、甲野先生も多少は小細工を使っていますけど…
よくはわからないんだけど、何やらすごいことが起きていることだけはわかる…😲‼️
そして、皆が楽しそう😍
平和だ…😍
平和な空間って、真に強い人じゃないと作り出せないものなんだなぁ。
こんな夢の共演があったんだ👍️
この二人の共演なんて、ヨダレが止まらんよ。
gracias sensei
ふたりとも楽しそう
お互い自分が優位に立とうとしながらも力の流れを楽しまれてますねー
流れをゆっくり感じながらですが、ミカエルに全て取られてしまっているのはどういうことでしょう？もちろんゆっくり出来ないことは速く動くことにはつながらないのですが、ゆっくりやって全て取られてしまうのであれば、それは実戦でも同じ結果になるのでしょうね…
これは遊びですか？
（動きをお互いが学ぶためのもの）
I need this, clearly we all run the risk of being assaulted with a samurai sword. Where do I sign up for bullshito training?
実に面白い。
50-50.. Number 1, Ryabko's hand cut off..Kono's feint won. Number 2..cut at elbow fold but recovered sword, Ryabko won. Number 3, classic Ryabko disarm, successful. Ryabko won. Number 4.. deception by Kono, stomach cut open.. Ryabko lost.
Number 4.. The Black Dahlia
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Kenjutsu-Kono
gekiryudojo
Hi Geki-ryu, I was completely wrong. A closer analysis shows Kono won in each case. Number 1: Kono cut Ryabko twice on the wrist. In #2: Kono had already cut Ryabko as Ryabko moved to the side through the straight-cut deception. Kono had a clear right kesa cut from top-right to bottom-left. 3: Same as two, except he had already cut Ryabko the moment he raised his sword. 4: This was the most tragic. If you got to 1:10, you will see Kono cut into Ryabko's liver.. So, there can be no disarm here.. post-death. I was almost going to give credit to Ryabko for cutting himself on #4, but then I rewound and found that Kono had put intent into the cut.. so no. Ryabko lost in this video, and he lost completely.. It would be basically impossible to go against Kono without a sword of your own.. I think. Unarmed is suicide..
Keni Lynch (y)
Speed of cut is dismissed important factor not fast easy to catch.....
二人共軸がぶれていませんね
I get this was all in good fun, but its insulting. Ryabko dances around pretending that he would somehow not be cut by the blade. Master Yoshinori is one of the greatest masters of our generation. Mikhail Ryabko is joke, plain and simple. sorry to be so blunt.
No It's not "plain and simple" as you say..Ryabko is no "joke"..To you, the measure is Ryabko who is fighting a master swordsman unarmed and he misses the mark and gets cut and so he's a joke? Really? This is your basis?..If Ryabko slashed back after taking the sword away then what? You really think Kono could get away and do better? Your opinion isn't reality. Stick to what is..Reason and logic is reality..
Stop kidding me.Kono is just bad imitation of Kuroda Tetsuzan.but Ryabuko is just amatuer in JSA.so this happened.
Tetsuzan is probably better, I will admit that. but Kono is very good as well. the world is more than big enough for both masters.
shoulung Kono was Tetsuzan's mentor in many ways, especially for jujitsu. Each style of sword is different, with different aims. But, the true test of mastery depends on who is more creative and who more trained. By 'creative', I mean, the one who has thought through the problem sets and found solutions. You don't go into a war without preparation. The same can be said for a sword fight. Knowing yourself is a start, but then, like Musashi said, knowing your enemy is the other half of the battle. Ironically, as few of the intuitive, Zen-inspired, martial artists know, nothing can be left to chance.. If you don't know the answer to a particular move, you might as well give up from the start. K & T are friends, as you may know, but if there was to be a friendly exchange of blades, it's likely they would discuss the problems, weaknesses, and opportunities that emerged out of their interaction, in a cooperative way, over a cup of green tea and some rice crackers.
Kono was not Kuroda Tetsuzan's mentor. even both does not claim sucha things.he just collaborated and trained with Tetsuzan.Kuroda sensei even advised Kono to learn a JSA under a mentor seriously.
i m very sorry many ppl recognize Kono as a 'master' despite he does not have any menkyo or even mokuroku in any ryu-ha.
most of serious practioner in JSA think he is superficial and not legit.but mass media praised him as a master and he became famous.sadly, since then many ppl took him as a master.
すごい、すごい、ジークンドーとかガンカタみたい、
将棋の差し合いみたい。
なんかボコボコとか書いてる人いるけどちゃんと見てんの？
あれはわざと捕られるときに抵抗してないんだよ。武術を学ぶ時はまず抵抗しない。最初に感覚とかを感じたいからね。
まぁそれを除いてもデモンストレーションだから交互に勝った負けたをしてるんだと思うけど
While Ryabko tries to get the advantage, Kono would have already drawn his short sword. It takes too long to break the grip.
Hello! Put please complete video featuring Kono Yoshinori and Mikhail Ryabko.
I have 2m49s if u want.
First time i see Mikhail in trouble. See how many times he gets cut, but for some reason the audience laughs with him when he painstakingly manages to get the blade away from Kono, as if he's played a good joke on Kono. Well it seems bare hands is no match to a live blade, who would have thought?
Master Pot Belly, only fight in Slow Motion as his real fight Movements are too fast for the Camera to catch.
Master Pot Belly might look Fat, however it is all due to bad Camera Angles.
システマも古武術の理合に近いもんなぁ
対手の手が届く位置に束があっちやゃねぇ。。
В реальности самурай отрубил бы ему голову за долю секунды. Зачем обманывать людей? Это шарлатанство!
eso me gustaria verlo con una catana afilada y en tiempo real
How to lose your hand quickly
ミカエル リャブコじゃないの？
ルシア語でMikhailはミクヒルです
タイトルは、ミハイルとかいてあるのですが？
Ryabko es un payaso. Claramente Kono esta colaborando para que Ryabko no quede en ridiculo. Si hacemos esto con realismo Kono lo corta todo. Es una locura total pensar que ryabko puede hacer esas tecnicas en la realidad.
解説がないと、素人にはチンプンカンプンです。
あの甲野さんが、いなされてるの？
Lo veo poco real.
お互いに相手の動きを盗もうとしてるように見える。
ところで、
この交流会に
甲野さんは毎回止まって、
ミハイルの技を待てたことは
皆さんが見えない？
いや、誰でも一目で分かるほど下手くそを演じて、やられに行っています。どのみち、チンピラが日本刀を振り回しても、実際は素手でこんなこと出来ません。
これだと甲野氏じゃなく、他の下っ端でいいのに。
Bullshit! If Kono wanted to, he would have sliced it.
this is a big clown 😂
切れてるやんｗｗ真剣なら逝っちゃってるやん
持ってるの真剣だよ。
mal mal mal, que piensan que es un juguete?
お互い負けるように指示されているようだ。
水曜日？
刃の部分が長いやりづらそうだな。
ridiculous
=]]
May be he have a trouble in brain ..
甲野先生のファンも多いと思うが否定的ではないとしておくが、甲野先生は術利の研究が好きなだけで強くはない。黒田先生の足元にも及ばない。25年程前には書籍を読んで強さの為に！と思ったが未だに変わりがない。ガラパゴス化してるが進化がない。デモンストレーションであってもミカエルが遊んでるだけ。実際身近なことでもなんじゃこりゃ！という話もある
強さや実戦とは違うもので有り強さを求めてはいけない人物
ロシアの方は実際15で特殊部隊に入った方で、それに比べて日本の方は人を殺したことなど勿論ない要は競技の剣術ですからね。実際剣術とシステマの優劣は付け難いでしょうね。日本の「剣豪」と呼ばれた方々でないと真剣勝負は難しいと思います。
甲野先生の技術は大昔の侍が本来口伝でしか伝えていなかったもの掘り起こして研究してる方です。競技用の技術ではありませんがコンセプトが違います。
師より北川先生だ。
なんやこれ
はてかつみ 日本の古武術のかたとロシアの軍隊格闘術システマの創始者のかたのデモンストレーションですね
Удиотизм.
I would like yo see with Kuroda sensei!!
Зарубите этого афериста Рябко!!!! Рябко аферист, его навыки фикция
むりやん
あほくさw