My bad for the misinformation, Jimmy does have scaling to Daniel since he gets beaten by Daniel, either way he is weaker than Tommy and Dutch since they could score a point on him and it’s unclear if Jimmy had scored a point on him since we don’t see it
It’s noteworthy that Johnny won the 83 all valley without losing a single point meaning that he 3-0d everyone including Tommy and Bobby, so Johnny was indeed Cobra Kai’s top student by a wide margin with full confidence meaning that Daniel wasn’t actually close to 84 Johnny, You scaled Bobby above Daniel which I agree with, in the comics in preparation for the tournament Bobby manages to score a point on Johnny in sparring and kreese is shocked and asked Johnny what’s up with him because Johnny doesn’t usually lose points to Bobby Johnny was a lot better than you might think, given his experience I don’t think any of the teens could have beaten him until they learned both styles
I fell like s2 Miguel s3 robby and maybe s3 Hawk can since Miguel broke a steel railing which was 63 kj and Johnny broke a sign which was 52 kj and Hawk and robby should upscale from that
I would rank Tommy above dutch, he made it to the finals in the previous all valley and bruised Daniel while Dutch couldn’t bruise Daniel, the only reason Daniel went to ground against Dutch was because he was already crouched down on the foot when he dodged the kick
What happened last all valley doesn’t matter, but you have a point with Tommy bruising Daniel so I agree with u, but then again daniel did get visibly much more hurt from Dutches attack but Tommy probs takes it
@@AvoiidedScales The last all valley should be a little relevant because it shows how well Tommy would have done with Daniel not competing, he got eliminated before Dutch because he faced Daniel first before Dutch did Tommy is a legit semi finalist and finalist competitor with the absence of Daniel
Id probably put her above all the karate kid one characters (Johnny Bobby etc) but under karate kid 2 Daniel and karate kid 2 chozen, she’s quite underrated imo
I agree with everything u said but how come Daniel beats Mike? Just because Daniel hurt Mike a bit doesn’t mean he would beat Mike overall. It honestly makes 0 sense
@@agnikaineverdies7646 yeah Vidal may be higher than Jimmy, the reason I put Jimmy above is purely because the other OG cobras are a good bit stronger and Jimmy is part of the main cobras, but Vidal may be above him since Jimmy is mostly featless so it’s debatable
@@deebo11029 The reason Bobby did so much damage and one shotted Daniel is because he specifically attacked his knee, it doesn’t make him massively high in AP or something which is proven by how Johnny who is above Bobby, took multiple attacks to put down an untrained Daniel
“Copium”- 🤓. Johnny was legit getting slapped 2-0 by an injured Daniel and kreese even admitted he made him play dirty because he knew he would’ve been 3-0d. Compare this to Dutch or Tommy who could score a point on a non injured Daniel and only narrowly lost 2-1 against Daniel. It wouldn’t make sense for them to do better against Daniel than Johnny when Johnny is confirmed as the strongest fighter in cobra kai in karate kid 1, this means Johnny would’ve been able to outperform Dutch and Tommy since he is confirmed as better but seeing as he couldn’t him being nerfed makes sense doesnt it? How was Johnny not nerfed lmao especially when we see many hints like Kreese confirming he lost his confidence after mr miyagi beat him up and what I said earlier
My bad for the misinformation, Jimmy does have scaling to Daniel since he gets beaten by Daniel, either way he is weaker than Tommy and Dutch since they could score a point on him and it’s unclear if Jimmy had scored a point on him since we don’t see it
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It’s noteworthy that Johnny won the 83 all valley without losing a single point meaning that he 3-0d everyone including Tommy and Bobby, so Johnny was indeed Cobra Kai’s top student by a wide margin with full confidence meaning that Daniel wasn’t actually close to 84 Johnny,
You scaled Bobby above Daniel which I agree with, in the comics in preparation for the tournament Bobby manages to score a point on Johnny in sparring and kreese is shocked and asked Johnny what’s up with him because Johnny doesn’t usually lose points to Bobby
Johnny was a lot better than you might think, given his experience I don’t think any of the teens could have beaten him until they learned both styles
I fell like s2 Miguel s3 robby and maybe s3 Hawk can since Miguel broke a steel railing which was 63 kj and Johnny broke a sign which was 52 kj and Hawk and robby should upscale from that
@@Prime_Markeditsmaybe hawk hawk is stronger than Robby in s2 s3 s4 and s5
This was such a informative video.
I like the way you explained the scaling
Thanks for the upload.
Great vid. I can see you becoming a popular Ck UA-camr in the near future. 🙌
Thanks bro I appreciate that!
Once again bro mad faxxxx. Chozen kk2 so overratted and mike destroys him no diff
Factss
I would rank Tommy above dutch, he made it to the finals in the previous all valley and bruised Daniel while Dutch couldn’t bruise Daniel, the only reason Daniel went to ground against Dutch was because he was already crouched down on the foot when he dodged the kick
What happened last all valley doesn’t matter, but you have a point with Tommy bruising Daniel so I agree with u, but then again daniel did get visibly much more hurt from Dutches attack but Tommy probs takes it
@@AvoiidedScales The last all valley should be a little relevant because it shows how well Tommy would have done with Daniel not competing, he got eliminated before Dutch because he faced Daniel first before Dutch did
Tommy is a legit semi finalist and finalist competitor with the absence of Daniel
U should do more of these they're very interesting and entertaining
Thanks, do you have any requests?
@@AvoiidedScales I really wanted to see a video of Daniel vs Chozen. But I just wanna see what categories Daniel has that puts him over chozen
@@Sono_zeraya I’ll make that at some point
I'd like to point out how tommy made it to the finals in 83 and had to fight johnny. Putting him at least above dutch and Jimmy. Very good list👍
The goat with another banger
Great video bro
Thanks goat!
Nah you’re the goat bro
Jimmy has Durability scaling to Daniel
Rly? What is it
R u talking about the deleted scene? Or something else
Great video!
I agree with a lot of this. Although, I'm interested with the Small Building level AP with Miyagi. Is there a calculation for it?
I’m not sure exactly how much the calculation was, but it was when sato was trapped under the beam of wood in karate kid 2 and mr miyagi broke it
@@AvoiidedScales ty learn said it was above wall Scaling
at the end i notcied sato never had a fight scene
I like how The Next Karate kid isn’t even mentioned in this 😂. But for real, I’m curious where you would rank maybe Julie-san in this list?
Id probably put her above all the karate kid one characters (Johnny Bobby etc) but under karate kid 2 Daniel and karate kid 2 chozen, she’s quite underrated imo
Ranking the karate kid multiverse would be cool like Dre vs Robby , exc
Everyone in ck beats Cheng no diff including kyler, and Johnny slams mr Han
That would be a good video but sadly the karate kid 2010 have no strength feats to scale them anywhere
@@AvoiidedScales r u slow? Cheng would neg everyone in ck apart from chozen
@@Ee27338 Cheng has no feats and you can’t disprove that.
@@AvoiidedScales kyler is so bad he loses to everyone in the verse
2:26😂😂😂😂
I believe that Vidal can at least beat Jimmy because he was never seen fighting as far as I remember
mike was legit toying with daniel, if they went actually to 3 mike wouldve already won, he had like 10 hits on him in the full fight daniel had 1
I agree with everything u said but how come Daniel beats Mike? Just because Daniel hurt Mike a bit doesn’t mean he would beat Mike overall. It honestly makes 0 sense
Jimmy was the only one in the gang that was a brown belt, he wasn’t as skilled as Tommy Dutch
Yeah that also
@@AvoiidedScales my point is that Vidal was a black belt and likely out scaled jimmy
@@agnikaineverdies7646 yeah Vidal may be higher than Jimmy, the reason I put Jimmy above is purely because the other OG cobras are a good bit stronger and Jimmy is part of the main cobras, but Vidal may be above him since Jimmy is mostly featless so it’s debatable
One statue is more durable than a couple of bricks
Chozen only broke a Part, Mike goddamm pulverized those bricks
@tonyhawksproskater2406 bro a big piece statue at the end of the day chozen still stronger
@@D.Darkcaster
Learn some physics and science
@tonyhawksproskater2406 look I get he broken bricks but a satue is way more durable than bricks he even has more muscle mass than barnes
Where is Julie Pierce ?
In my opinion johnny and bobby are stronger than chozen
How come
Brah I explain it in my video did u not watch
I explain it poorly but wtv try to debunk it im all ears
@@deebo11029 The reason Bobby did so much damage and one shotted Daniel is because he specifically attacked his knee, it doesn’t make him massively high in AP or something which is proven by how Johnny who is above Bobby, took multiple attacks to put down an untrained Daniel
Fax
Daniel>>bobby man
Sorry bro I'm late
No problem
Johnny and Bobby > Chozen
There was no mental nerf on Johnny. That is pure Copium. What mental nerf was there to have?! Johnny wanted to hurt Daniel.
“Copium”- 🤓. Johnny was legit getting slapped 2-0 by an injured Daniel and kreese even admitted he made him play dirty because he knew he would’ve been 3-0d. Compare this to Dutch or Tommy who could score a point on a non injured Daniel and only narrowly lost 2-1 against Daniel. It wouldn’t make sense for them to do better against Daniel than Johnny when Johnny is confirmed as the strongest fighter in cobra kai in karate kid 1, this means Johnny would’ve been able to outperform Dutch and Tommy since he is confirmed as better but seeing as he couldn’t him being nerfed makes sense doesnt it? How was Johnny not nerfed lmao especially when we see many hints like Kreese confirming he lost his confidence after mr miyagi beat him up and what I said earlier
I swear to god chosen is overrated even tory has more strength than him
facts
@@AvoiidedScales Thank you Finally one admits. Even Mike can beat the shit out of chosen {young}