More Power Puller Extracts Bobcat
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Better than a come-along winch. Using a simple hand powered winch (The More Power Puller) we were able to extract a 12,000 pound Bobcat (M-970) from a snowy ditch.
I bought the 3-Ton model that has the Amsteel Blue (Dyneema SK-75 Fiber) rope, and I love it! This winch is rated for 3 ton dead lift and 6 ton drag! The More Power Puller has an all Ductile iron frame, with a heavy duty steel reel. The More Power Puller comes with a heavy duty block with a heavy duty hook.
The whole winch weights only about 24 pounds and is much more compact than most other pullers. The Frame is about 13 inches long, and the over-all hook to block length is about 21 inches. both the regular handle (18 inches long) and the optional extension handle (also 18 inches long) are easily removed for even more compact stowage.
This winch comes with a little over 35 feet of rope, making possible a 35 foot (single line) pull or a 17.5 foot (double line) pull. Longer pulls mean fewer resets. Most of the other pullers I looked at only had a total of 10 to 12 feet of wire rope.
I purchased an optional extension handle, and find it to be highly recommended, especially when doing sinlge line pulls.
This winch is a quality American made product. The ductile iron frame is American made. The Amsteel Blue rope is made in America, and the whole winch is assembled in Ohio!
This winch is a true heritage tool that can be passed down to the next generation. The winch comes with a two year warranty.
Loved the narration. The driver constantly spinning the wheels was more of a hindrance than a help.
I owned my first More Power Puller back in the 70's and used it to pull cars out of ditches to make money as a teen. Still have that first one and keep buying more as they come up at yard sales for $15 to $25..worth every penny and as you said, they still make them and the parts to fix too!
Operator is doing a nice job of polishing the ice.
Dam as cool as that winch is , it looks like A LOT of work ! Especially when it’s probably only pulling that rope a half inch with each back and forth of that handle . But hey it can definitely bail you out of a tough situation . And another thing , that friggin driver got it stuck !! Get him out and start cranking ! Lol wth
man the one time I needed this thing recently I would have given $500 to be ABLE to do this much work, if only my truck would have come unstuck from the mud XD
well, got one for next time. Better late than never
That looks pretty good The problem is with the operator and the tires. FYI you don’t need all that winching when you have hydraulic cylinders to use. Next time chain to a tree over top the bucket lift bucket and continue resetting. And have the operator bucket himself out
Looks like a great SHTF or Off-The Grid option, because despite how slow it is, it requires no power and always works.
I love the video and the comments. Some are a bit critical because sitting by the TV with, my heat on, drinking coffee. I see many other ways to get out of there but I am not there with limited tools and physical abilities, and whatever else is to get him unstuck. But I love that in these situations the comments and suggestions are very helpful! great video! thanks from Canada!
Thanks for your encouraging comments. Your also correct about sitting by the TV,.... I always say that "the game of life is really easy,... from the bleacher seats,... but you may find it a bit more challenging from on the field."
So far the right answer has come up several times. Tire Chains - I grew up in VT, and we NEVER used the tractor in the snow without chains! Secondly, any operator with a lick of skill could have bucketed himself out of that mess in less than 10 minutes. None of my comment is meant to disparage the More Power Puller under any circumstances. It's worth every penny you pay for it, slow but we used it in construction thousands of times to move hefty loads. Another thing - nylon tow straps are way safer than chains. And you wouldn't have had to put 2x4's around the tree. I giggled when I read "hellacious nut slap"!
surprised that i had to scroll this far down to see someone question why he didnt use the bucket to get himself out. the tool is awesome and very capable but that bucket could have gotten a guy out in a matter of minutes. especially the second time when it was stuck on basically flat ground. hahahahaha
It almost physically hurt me to watch that operator not put that bucket into use
Just a note for next time... As you pull him, he keeps on creating a new "slick" of icy mush below his tires by giving it gas. If he'd have left it in nuetral and you'd pulled him out of his slick and onto a fresh patch of ground, maybe a foot or so, you'd have a lot less pulling to do. He's helping you by moving, but really not all that much.
Great video though! Thanks for sharing :D
+D Odle Bobcats don't have a "Neutral" it has Hydrostatic Drive. If your not driving it forward or revers, the wheels are locked up...
+Alaskan Geronimo Putting it in drive and giving little to Bo gas would accomplish the same... But I didn't know that.
Need to get some snow chains on that Bobcat! or better yet one with tracks!
Neighbors helping neighbors. I would have put some boards under the tires to help out. That's quite the handy machine.... I miss the snow. Good Job boys!
Definitely just convinced me to spend the small amount of additional funds on an electric recovery winch for my vehicle instead of opting for the cheaper come-along option. 😜
I'm sitting here thinking the same thing! :'D
And if you have no power source for the electric winch? Better get both.
You can order these direct from the maker, Wyeth-Scott. They sell parts, too so if you score an old one at a yard sale etc you can easily put it right.
Yes some people are mean , Thanks for the information.
With all the solutions below, I am surprised that no one has said to stop the wheels polishing the mud/snow underneath until the machine moves to fresh ground, like 2 feet. Sell the machine and give him a shovel. would be safer for everyone
A good demonstration of what can be done with a hand winch. Extremely useful tools when you need them.
That said, a lot more can be done using a tow vehicle with the rope ran through redirect pulleys. This method even beats electric winches, if the situation allows.
Not critisizing what was done here. I have done simular things and through necessity tried different methods. A 2wd half ton pickup yanking on a good rope will beat any common winch out there. Manual or electric.
wow trees are amazing...what mechanical strength!...And yes the hand winch too! I'm from Australia and love the snow although you're up to your waist in it.
+TheJoeman11 ........ trees are amazing and your right that was a long, cold, and snowy winter. Thanks mate.
This is so awesome. Just got one for my 4Runner while I save up for a longterm front bumper + winch. Main thing I'm looking for now is a loooooong winch extension rope (ask me why I know that I need this) and the basic rigging.
Hoping to never need a winch after last time, but since I'm a total idiot, I'm sure I eventually will
Mauser 98, Remington 870, More Power Puller, Lincoln AC-225, HB-MA-Duece .50 Cal., and the list goes on...Work every friggin time...and still in production after 50 years or more. These are not Chinese junk, but real Americana.
Excellent demonstration.
Awesome video! Slightly boring to watch...haha...but you managed to get the point across very clearly. That is one winch that has ALLOT of potential! Well engineered, old technology, that surpasses, no doubt, the newer style made in China junk made these days. Mine will arrive in a couple of days. Can't wait! Human ingenuity at it's finest! Well done!
+Shane Roper ... thanks for your constructive comment. Maybe it was a bit long, but it was my first video production ever. I hope to improve, with time. I hope your new MPP will serve you safely and faithfully for many decades. Don't forget to grease the MPP, it will extend the life of the tool.
Coat hanging on shovel if cable broke someone could get killed, just throw coat over cable. Better safe than sorry 😞
And looks like the bobcat needed some snow chains.
2 sets of chains with grab hooks and use the buckets up and down motion. Only 1 person needed.
It works. It is slow. It is dangerous to be in the line of fire should something break and become a projectile.
Great video of the more power puller with the synthetic cable. However, I did not know they made a bobcat that weighed 12,000 lbs.
Thank you! You should get a commission for sales of that puller!
Nice but you should have traded places with the driver!
M Miller if he couldn't see what needed to be done from a spectator position, it wouldn't have helped to be in the driver seat. Nobody in this gathering as in the sentence.
Must be his first time operating that bobcat. I have never seen one stuck in the snow or anywhere. That bucket could have got him out faster. Nice winch though.
He should have used his bucket to help propel himself forward.
put proper tires or tire chains adopted to snow
We work with the tools we have,.. not with the tools we wish we had.
Or get a screw gun and drive a bunch of shallow screws into the treads of the tires. This video gives new meaning to the phrase, "spinning your wheels." Doing a four wheel drive burn out is really cool, but you'll run out of fuel before the tires start to smoke.
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Would have put something over that rope. Or placed a barrier between the load and winch operator. Nothing says goodbye teeth, or hello A&E, like a nice winch shackle coming unstuck or winch rope snapping.
Cool winch though.
+ZS6JMP It's an issue with steel cable but the Dynema just falls to the ground. It's great stuff.
M Miller
That is pretty cool. Learn something new every day.
A nice piece of equipment and a thumbs up 👍 for the video
Excellent video. Showed a "new" viewer all it can do. My first time seeing this tool. Now I am looking to see where to buy and pricing. TKS again.
+450rhino1 ...... Thanks for watching.
Reduce air pressure in tyres to half and it will grabb the ground like magnet🤔
kind of funny to use a dead tree to protect a live tree
I must admit, I never thought about that,... but it sure did work well enough.
Painful to watch is an understatement. I give the man credit for trying to do a good deed and educate his children. But if anything this was an example of how to do things the hardest way possible. The Bobcat was never stuck if a true operator was in the drivers seat. For going that, there was no need to use the handy little manual winch. This machine has a hydraulic bucket, let it do the work. The bucket can create much more pulling force in a much much shorter time, with very minimum physical effort required.
1st times a gimme, 2nd time the driver winches.
Channel+ totally
Should of gone in revers and use the bucket to push you out at the same time
Beautiful property 👌
WOW! This was painful to watch.... Definitely a good tool, the puller... but some really poor rigging techniques here. You should never pull on a flatly stretched chain like that; maintain at least a 60 deg angle on all corners; you were down to 10 or 15 deg. The effective pull on the chain (corner to corner on bucket) is about 9 times the force you were exerting with the winch. Good thing you weren't pulling something real heavy. Also, raising the bucket 5 feet or so would have increased traction on the front tires.
Sling Angle! Good effort but Ed is 100% right that chain across the bucket was under huge strain. Do a search for sling angle and you will see charts about this.
Ed, you are so very correct about the chain angle! Back then, I didn't know any better. We sure dodged a huge mistake, thank you Lord. If I were to do it again, I surely would do it differently. Thanks for watching and thanks for your constructive input.
a very poor recovery job, great winches for sure but no idea why he didnt use his bucket to get out?
Right..if it let go one of those kids may have had steel chain in the teeth...dangerous rigging but now you know that is good. I am glad no one was hurt.
Can you expand on this please ? I’m not sure what you mean, but I don’t want to make any mistakes that are dangerous
Cool tool but next time drape a bath towel over each tire if you want to test the principal next time you have a frozen Lake or something similar put socks over the toe of your shoe it's the crazy how good it works.
Was waiting for a hellacious nut slap if that line broke. I know it's good line but anyone ever seen when they break! You don't want to be in the line of fire.
It's synthetic rope, not steel cable. Two entirely different animals.
@@randyreichert5911: Look up a video of them testing that stuff to failure... it's like a bomb going off. chukfunk knows what he's talking about.
@@rhymereason3449 you never want to be in the line of fire of any rope or cable, but it is a scientific fact that synthetic rope will not store the vast amounts of kinetic energy the way steel cable does. Don't just go by videos, look it up for yourself. Synthetic rope might slap you in the nuts, sure, but steel cable will take your effin head off.
Wow! Don't run this bobcat in winter no more.
I see I thought u was trying to move the tree 😂
So environmentally pristine! Video should had been called “a tree was saved”
I'm curious how much load is on the line from that bobcat during the single line pull. Sure it's a 12,000lb bobcat but all of that weight is being supported by the Earth. There has to be less than 3 ton on the line because that's the max drag load of the puller in a single line pull. Once switched to a double line pull, the max drag load increases to 6 ton. I know this puller is an absolute beast though and so much safer and stronger than an equivalent wire cable winch. great video
This situation definitely calls for chains on the tires in these kind of conditions. That bobcat will continue to slide and get stuck until one of those kids or yourself gets crushed. This is not safe whatsoever. Nobody's life is worth a set of tire chains. If you can't afford them then turn that skid steer off until the snow melts. Never worth losing family and friends just because you're too cheap or in a hurry. Shake hands with danger.
And also doubling up on the winch rope will help
For the last bit he u raise the bucket on the bobcat it shortens the distance to tree and pulls itself out done it many times by myself
A great piece of equipment (the bobcat) but somewhat helpless and risky without tire chains...just one set of chains on the rear wheels would do it.
if you only have one set of chain you should chain the front. when you out weight in the bucket it takes weight off the back.
+Thomas Cronin ... Going to jump in and defend you Tom.... Jeffery is right in a normal loading application; gravel, dirt, etc... but for just pushing snow (and looks like light snow) I think the rear would be best for the chains. With most equipment, application may change the way you have to use it.
+Skagit Ed ok chain left front chain right rear. lol
When using devices like this to pull heavy loads, try to avoid anchoring them with chains if those chains aren't designed for pulling. Use wire cable instead or even rope if you have it.
Great workout.... A lot calories was burn for just 1 inch moving😂😂
Uuuupp! No free lunch's on planet Earth, the law's of leverage are demanding, aren't they!?
I would move away from all that snow
Anyone out trying to snow plow should first put chains on the tires
And quit continuously spinning the tires which only extended the mudslick they were trying to escape!...Could have cut some evergreen branches and laid them under the tires for faster results!
So has he gotten tracks yet? Some straps for your winch kit? traction mats?
Why didn't the bobcat have chains on the wheel.? Just a thought. Good video though and excellent winch..great job.
You should have lifter the bucket in air wrapped chain around bucket and ran chain to tree and used the skid steer to pull its self out. Way easier and less time consuming.
YOU could have dismantled the Bobcat and put in on the driveway faster than 9,000 winch strokes. That convinced me not to buy any such product. Thanks for all of that hard work.I mean it, I appreciate your demonstration.
Use the very top of the puller leaver more leverage
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BobCat has no grip on the tires
get some chains on those wheels..gee wiz!..the only work being done is constantly getting it unstuck! Park it, go home and have a hot toddy with your feet by the fire. End of story. ha. Glad no one was hurt..
Just found your video and just hit subscribe, great video, you have done a better presentation than the so -called professionals on TV ! Why don’t you do a video comparing HiLift to MPP, it could be interesting ! Regards from the UK, keep on filming !!!
Why why why was the bobcat digging in let the power pull do it job,
Ich habe mal einen Gabelstabler in den Sand gesetzt, beim rausziehen ist das Stahlseit gerissen. Als ich sah wie das Stahlseil alles auf seinen Rückschlagweg zerschnitten und zerstört hatte, kommt so ein Gerät wie gezeigt nie mehr für mich in Frage.
YOUNG MAN , U DID A GREAT JOB , BUT U CAN USE FRONT IN BUCKET AND WILL HELP U OUT WITH COME A LONG
How should he have better hooked onto the bobcat?
Is it my imagination or is the Bobcat useless in snow?
Wheel are going wrong direction, need to be in reverse lol 😝
What does HEAVY DUTY mean? That could have been a 5 million ton Bobcat. The important physical item is the strain at the moment of pull.. And, yes. The operator could have easily extracted himself. This is something to be sold on TV at midnight.
They should have given it some claws by using tire chains made for it.
then he had to sell the bobcat to afford all the beers he owed you?
This dude needs to take the bucket of and either built or buy a snow plow to fit
You don't pull yourself out with the bucket you turn it around & use the curl to push it out backwards
Bobcat needs chains or snow tire’s.
tire chains ?
family fun!
Not a good ad for Bobcat. I'd have used the bucket to walk it out, or let it sit till Spring. What was he trying to do on snow in the first place? Might have mounted a winch on either end and used a tree for an anchor. This was frightening to watch!
And you didn’t lay a coat or something over the rope?! It could snap and hurt the driver! Draping something on the rope can kill the energy if it snaps
rednecktech70 it’s synthetic, that’s only a concern with steel cable
I think it would have been faster to just wait until the snow melted...
LOL yea come alongs work but 2 tire chains on that bobcat would have resolved his ongoing issues.
So you used a 1-2 ton puller to pull a 4-5 ton stuck vehicle. Lucky the chain didn’t snap and kill that guy…..
Doesn’t the bucket work?
Can you put chains on a bobcat?
Yes,...if he had chains!
Getting a workout ehhh!
Chains would help
Chain's? Every herd of Chains on your wheels in the snow? What a newbie
How long did it take to winch him out? I'm curious how long it takes to winch a foot with it
I'll get you the exact answer the next time I go out and use the winch. Sorry about the delay.
What pipe was used with the winch for leverage? Thanks
That company wants you to use their handle they designed for it. It is made to bend before an unsafe lifting force is applied to the winch. Any other pipe handle would defeat that so they don't want you to use another one. They come in 2 sizes and are quite reasonably priced so get a spare when you buy a new one to have on hand, I recommend you get the long handle to supplement the stock size that comes with it then you are all set if you bend one. Cheaper to replace a $16 handle then overload the winch with a steel pipe and catastrophically fail it under load
Should have used the Bucket.
Hey. What is you power puller model?
You couldn't just have used the bucket? Maybe not...
I like the 2x4 idea.
Tell the owner to buy NEW TIRES.
Go buy some chains for the tires
Next time move the bucket up and down to pull then winch so you don't have to do all the winch-ing
lift the bucket for extra pulling
chains chains chains ....better yet install a real winch on that thing ...cheers
Kitty litter may have worked better and faster, but I enjoyed the demo.
Steve Niemyer Kitty litter,.... sounds like a good idea that I hadn't thought of. Now that you mentioned kitty litter, I must admit that I do remember hearing about this usage, but it didn't come to either of our minds at the time, and then we wouldn't have been able to make this video. Thanks for your comment and suggestion!
It's better don't use slick tyres in snow cases :) it's better to have 2wheel drive with good tyres then four wheel drive just rim dressed
what r u doing out in the snow with those tires SMH