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I mean... are we entirely certain that's not what this is? "Hey, John, ready for another sessions of Angels & Antichrists?" "*sigh* Fine, but there'd better be loot this time!"
After struggling to learn Spanish, German and Japanese at least I learned that the sounds we make with our mouths in English are not the only way to make those sounds. The L/R in Japanese is a great example of how limited our perception of phonemes is when coming from English. Conversely, Japanese speakers are working with a very limited set of sounds. Possibly the most constrained of any language. English requires many more versions of the vowels sounds than they are used to. Plus we have dipthongs, and a wildly heterogeneous orthography. I bought a rough bough though. Another great example is the V/W in German which is (ironically?) softer than it's English cousin. I mention this not to undermine Dee's Enochian language. But to point out, he only had the tools at hand to transcribe this with. If you only know English vowel sounds, you will imitate other languages with those sounds. That is the first level of learning a 2nd language after all. He may have had some Latin and French. But who is to say he did not pronounce this with a Cockney accent? My personal theory is that 4th dimensional teenagers where messing with Dee and Kelley.
My intuition is to try applying Hindi and Sanskrit to the Enochian system, which is one method I will one day try once I learn it more along with coding, as I believe the Enochian language is more math and coding based... because it's what the universe is coded in.
Ha! I literally said to myself, "This is confusing", and then you said "Are you confused?" right after. That was hilarious, lol. Great video amigo. Time to go sailing!
Yep, the Enochian stuff is crazy complicated - just keeping track of all the little weird details is tough. Hope you're well and enjoy the sailing, brother!
Fascinating stuff. Have you ever looked into Hamptonese? The "language" used by American mystic and outsider artist James Hampton in his notebooks? Also he tried to construct a divine throne room.
Oddly enough, the enochian stuff has been a huge influence on the band Tool, especially the drummer Danny Carey. Their new album is called Fear Inoculum which can be said Fear Enoch-ulum. There’s tons of references beyond that. Big hello from Memphis
Great point.The band The Jam wrote a song called burning sky on the 1979 album setting sons Written as a realist contacting a friend and how foolish young ideals are...wink
There’s also references to Hermeticism in lyrics like “As below so above and beyond I imagined” in Lateralus. If you go to Danny Carey’s personal page he sells Tshirts with his personal sigils on them. Their occult references go way back. Their also really into Jung
Dee and Kelly should be made into a film. Or a mini series. Drama with elements of comedy and horror. Like a field in England Actually you should do a review A Field in England
I'm so embarrassed, for some reason while I was listening to the first few minutes, I was like "I didn't know they had to build furniture for the first year- no one ever mentioned this!"
This guy cracks me up so much I could re watch these videos hundreds of times and I probably will. Theres also a good bit of useful wisdom, maybe one day I’ll find a use for it. For now, the sense of humor(antihumor?) is workin for me😂
GOD IS A MATHEMATICIAN WHICH IS UNIVERSAL. I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN DREAMS VIA MY DECEASED MOTHER THIS LANGUAGE, A BIT A JEBERISH. HO I'M GOOD AS WELL AT GEOMETRY AND LANGUAGES WICH I SPEAK SEVERAL FLUENTLY. I AM FRANCO AMERICAN FROM OLD AQUITAINE.
I'd love to see how you'd break down Crowley's "The Vision and The Voice", his own take on and crying session of the 30 Aethyrs that seems to have laid out many tenets and themes of Thelema.
Do an episode on the Black Pullet, because magical infernal treasure finding chickens are the kind of sorcery that's right up my alley. Also it was written in that curious period in between Napoleon's Egyptian adventure and the deciphering of the Rosetta Stone, a curious time for European Orientalists.
You have my undying gratitude good sir. I ILIVE FOR THIS! Deciphering and analyzing the cryptographical and mathematical symmetry of this system mentally is far more pleasurable than anything I know The speaking of governance concerns the Zodiacal signs which are the archetypes of the human mind. The cryptographic nature of the system allows one to peer into the collective human unconscious to retrieve information. This has a lot in common with what Dee's predecessor Trithemius who more or less fathered what we know in Stenographia The applicability of using the system for espionage is great considering one is interfacing through each call with the archetypes themselves It's not the structure of the system, rather that is arbitrary, but the very act of encryption speaks to the unoncsious directly in and of itself) or at least that's the idea from what I am gathering thus far.The numerals as noted at 24:26 qre all numbers that appear in the calles themselves, and are and encryption of sorts themselves I'd wager.
I wouldn't want a movie (too short), but you could definately work a 6-8 part miniseries. That I'd watch when it first came out rather than waiting 3 years before I watched it.
🎀The Kate Vincent Bridges (R.I.P) and Dan Winters did an amazing lecture about John Dee and the Enochian Angels. It’s here on UA-cam, have you seen it?🎀
loved this so much! thanks again for these brilliant videos, love the channel, LOVE all your work, keep on making people informed through your content and happy from your funny jokes :))
I had a experience where my room was filled with the Enochian language like something out of a Dr. Strange movie and got me interested in studying it. I did not realize at the time what being I was talking to, the Archangel Sage Bhrigu (mind born son of Lord Brahma, the god responsible for the video graphics and coding of the living holographic simulation), or that the language was Enochian, until I did research after the event because I had never studied or really seen it before outside a character or two in shows like Supernatural... And weirder still was it was from Hinduism I got into this. However, it seems Metatron is the other name this archangel goes by, and then suddenly it made sense. They had me put a specific image on my computer screen, which came to life during all this and began doing smile, neutral and frown gestures with its mouth, and it's hands flowed and moved around. They filled my room with golden glowing text and sandy shadowy black and grey text, representing the polarity of the words I believe, black hole energy or 0 and white hole energy or 1. The basis of coding. My computer screen was wreathed in a fixed string of text while the other text had a 1.5 second refresh rate that didn't care if I saw the text or not. My walls became other people's walls from the Multiverse, apparently... I was filled with a deep sense of "We aren't in Kansas anymore Todo" / Mandala Effect to the extreme, the Netflix movie Synchronic is the best explanation I can give... But not time travel, just on the verge of dimensional travel. I was smoking DMT while on LSD, D9 distillate, and alcohol... As they told me to do... Trying to recreate Soma from Hinduism and the Greece knockoff, apparently. There was, besides all the angels and Magick text and walls changing, no feeling of being high... And no traditional psychedelic visuals, just everyday life but more fish eyed camera effect and I could detect a fuzziness to objects, as if I could see their atomic ion superpositions. There were also these yellow and orange with random Green sparks of flame, squat body shape, short, bugeyed fire elementals who were harassing me during this apparent lesson, by making me nauseous by presumably attacking me via my lower chakras which would be their easiest port of entry due to their lower vibrational energy, as they come from the lower pocket dimensions of reality based on Vedic Cosmology map. I think they were there by the will of the divine and not so much an evil attack or something... Apparently I get hardcore lessons... I feel called to one day take on the work of understanding the Enochian language, after I study coding more and create some machine learning algorithms to make my life easier doing this. Since then, I have learned to talk telepathically with angels... And I assure you they have a great sense of humor and love to troll the fuck out of humans and give wrong answers, which is why and where much of this Enochian language doesn't make sense and contradicts itself. They weren't paying enough attention to different communication channels, where the real answer was given. But angels exist outside of time as we know it, so it is likely this wasn't meant to be completed by these two people then and there. Angel anatomy, by the way, resembles things like single cell organisms and jelly fish, at least the ones I tend to have visits from...but made of energy and code using the Enochian computer code language, but not at first glance... Which is done best with your eyes closed, helps remove extraneous data and helps you focus your chakras and get a better synesthesia visual in your brain. Angels are amazing beings, very complex.
Enochian linguistic structure certainly sets it apart as far as revealed or inspired languages. Some of the miscellaneous formulas or sayings provide insight, Liber Loagaeth, and the magical items probably will continue to expose meaning and purpose to it. The subjective features make Angelic, Celestial Speech, Adamical great for pathworking of personal psychology in a physical friendly sphere.
My wife left me recently and I'm so happy now. My only worry is that she could come back. I don't wish her any ill will but can you make a video on Enochian magic on how to banish ex-wives forever. Please, please, please. 😊
@@antwanstowe6561 I appreciate your reply but you never met my ex. I would have loved to see a demon try to possess her. He wouldn't have ever tried to possess anyone again.😊
I’m about halfway through this & although the whole endeavour is historically fascinating I’m forced to ask out loud “has anyone ever found any use for any of these writings at all?“ I mean, does ANYONE claim to actually be able to ‘speak’ Enochian? Also had there ever been any writings, before or after Dee and co, revealed in anyway?
The lad himself, Aleister Crowley was a big fan. He did a lot of sex magic with it though, rather than look for buried treasure. But who knows, maybe Dee and Kelly had a secret bromance going on?
@@merseyviking 😉 I suppose all I’m waffling on about is I’d really like to know “more“ but there isn’t really any more is there? 🤷♂️ (Maybe I expect too much from magick!!)
@@njr819 I can't say for sure, but I think he got a lot of sex out of it. 😁 As he was such a larger than life character, venerated and hated in equal measure, you never know what he wrote was true in any sense, or just Crowley being Crowley. I know the good doctor generally doesn't dabble in Victorian/modern practitioners, Crowley was such a big deal at the time that it would be good for him to step out of his comfort zone a bit. That said, there are other channels who I am sure will have covered Crowley.
@@BeesWaxMinder enochian is utilized in the golden dawn tradition as well as in thelema Crowley and Parsons both use enochian in ritual and tons of others in ceremonial magick even today
@@redred1121 thanks for that info! So it’s a language that people can actually understand or are the “sounds of it“ merely intoned, as it were, for use in ceremony?
the part about international espionage is the least surprising bit of all of this. You can reveal the divine language of Creation to humans right from the mouth of God himself and it won't take long before one of them will think up a wholly mundane and worldly use for it
One day I'm going to create a compilation of Dr. Justin's "one day this will get an episode" comments that have, to date, never gotten an episode. Someone has to hold the man accountable for his promises!
I feel personally that any language used to commune with an Angelic being would be not so much words but a cosmic symphony of harmonies. As I was told as a child "Raise your voice to the heavens" Perhaps when we see any reference to the word "Key" perhaps it is to the pitch of one's voice. Vibration & frequency. And yes I am probably quite mad at this point. Thank you and Blessings upon you and yours.
Hey, new to your channel but I’ve been working badly with enochian ever since coming across it. I even at one point played a game of enochian chess, on yes a four dimensional enochian chess board (that’s not a joke). The flashes you receive whilst playing are supposed to reveal truths. Aside from all of that, I have often like many pondered the actual composition of the enochian sessions. I mean they had all of the trappings, the tablet, board, etc. They then sat down and started the sessions, lots of I am sure miss starts, breaks, food, toilet and they did this day after day. As long con jobs go, I’m still unsure what Kelly talbot was working towards. Which is why I would be fascinated if you did a video around the counter factual aspects as they have always keenly interested me. We know dee checked some of the angelic answers against Greek, which Kelly supposedly didn’t read. We also know the angels warned dee about Kelly. We also know that these tables are complex and mistakes are made really easily. I find it hard to think that Kelly managed to have in his head or even written down, the tables, the words, the order and could then provide those an answers backwards ? That’s why I would love you to do a serious examination of what would be necessary for this to occur. By which I mean, let’s assume Kelly was on the con, what would he have had to hold on his head to be able to transmit this information ? Indeed info which it seems dee and Kelly never actually used, plus as things started very tediously the angels even slipped into an easier system. One of the favourite explanations is that this was an alien being who was able to transmit non local ideas and latched onto Kelly. I beleive there is part of the conversation where the angel says he will no longer be able to commune after a certain date. Could this be due to planetary alignment ? We’re the stars just right when they started speaking and the alien knew it had limited window ? There’s a lot to go at here, given the fact that anyone who has even a cursory look at the enochian language and tables realises it’s very very complex, non trivial and is indeed a system whatever that system is. We have been left with what magic should look like here if magic is indeed a thing. Magic should look like complex, hard work and resemble say a complex scientific document that also contains graphs, calculations, method etc. If magic is a thing, then that thing would of course resemble other complex human endeavours and this ticks that box. So a video on ideas and certainly what would have to have been true if it was all a Kelly con job would I’m sure make excellent viewing.
Okay, so Dr. Sledge screenwrites together with Robert Eggers, who then directs. Who should play Dee and Kelley? I nominate John Lithgow and Willem Dafoe respectively.
Hearing that Gabriel explained their use of numbers as means of communication and expression, rather than prices and the allotting of perceived value, gives a much wider speculation on the beliefs of Pythagoras. Given that merchants use numbers based around the monetary value using gold, silver, and so on, it seems to me that concepts like mathematical constants (like how we can graph wind patterns and projections with quadratics) speak a lot louder than they're given credit. Edit: No, I'm horrible at math. Like, embarrassingly bad. But when mathematicians say that math is another written language, I wonder how deep that statement truly is.
Thank you.I"m completlely connected. to this knowledge. I don't want to but I have to.There's no other reason to live for.I didn't heard the name of angel Michael during your speach.
"...you're going to alternatively need whiskey and espresso for that roller coaster..." Wonderful caveat! I wonder if it's all just a way of saying, "When you get there, there's no there, there." That would be the Zen solution. Or, in a more cynical view, it might be much ado about nothing...or no-thing, i.e., the No-thing that is God. It's all so mind-blowingly complex that it actually stops thought so that only experience remains. Just an alternate opinion. I think your work on this channel is both gargantuan as well as heroic, sir! Love to you from a mystic traveler and fan of The Cosmos.
@@TheEsotericaChannel Now that's interesting because after i posted my comment The Voynich Manuscript flashed into my mind. as my next possible take on this saga. Great minds...LOL
@@TheEsotericaChannel Understood. And, yes, I did watch your Voynich episode. Very well done. I am still in the process of working on fathoming all of your videos, so I have work to do. But just as a passing thought on mysticism and mystical writings I am reminded of Lily Tomlin's great line, "When we talk to God it's called prayer. When God talks to us it's called schizophrenia."
Great job, per usual Dr Sledge 👍 Invented language is a fascinating thought exercise, like speculative zoology. It's always nice to learn about invented languages: my girl Hildegard came up with a pretty 🔥 one- lingua ignota. Yes, if any two figures need a movie, it's Apuleius or John Dee; Julian would be another one- imagine the CGI on those animated statues 🙏💚🐢🐍
I had heard about some of this, and the writing of these two is at least prolific. Now, to throw in some relatively modern theory on things, there is some argument to be made of the mind of the receiver lacking full tools to express a language he had not the relative concepts to understand, on the one hand (what is water to an angel and a man, so that you could share each others words for it?) and likely drug or diseased prattling with a set of "guiderails" in the form of dee asking most of the right questions to keep a sense of functionality, lastly the whole thing being a form of either a paycheck or scam, where if he runs out of material, he runs out of money. Part of (possibly) why most other scholars in the area either make sure to make no solid claims if possible, or are self supported enough they do not care for the next reader finding it useful or gilded to the point of a smooth plate, as some could say about ones like perhaps agrippa or some of the more mysterious grimoire authors just prior to this period.
Thank you so much for sharing your (I suspect very hard earned) knowledge. I don't know why, I get the feeling both these characters are getting way too much credit. The handwriting, is superb on those notes....
Thanks for sharing your personal view of what these things mean or where they "come from." I'm always curious about that. I tend to see it myself as an interplay between mythology, cultural symbols, and the subconscious mind of John Dee. But like you, I'm still on "team Altogether More Complex." My tendency to see it the way I just described doesn't mean I think I can dismiss it or know with certainty what was going on. There's still room for mystery. (I'm a Unitarian Universalist; that's our thing. 😄) I don't tend to think of these writings as revelations of special, privileged truth, but I also wouldn't see them as a "con job" exactly. Perhaps a little bit of a con of John Dee's surface mind by his own deeper/larger self.
What in the angels' name were Dee and Kelley taking? I want some for this Saturday, I feel in the mood to invent some new language that no one, not even me can understand. I'll call it upper celestial speech.
"Enochianna" would be a great name for an album. Not sure if it suits Black Metal though (sorry, Dr. Sledge 🙏🏻). I get more of a mid-nineties alternative/grunge vibe. (The band most likely to name their album Enochianna was probably The Tea Party, but I doubt many people even know who they are.)
It would be such a great movie. I dont know what happened with dee and kelley but their fear and isistence correlated with the angels fuckery and completely unreasonable desires is one of the best reads one can do. specially drunk.
The stangest thing is that I am reading the book The Tortuous Serpent by Donald Tyson and the main characters are John Dee and Edward Kelley. I thought that they were fictitious charachters. I don't know how and why I decided to hear about the enochian language sound and normally I do not believe in coincidences. But then again strange things happen in life.
"It is important to note, however, that the Enochian alphabet is used in certain esoteric practices and using it without the proper knowledge and guidance is not recommended. If you are not familiar with these practices, it may be better to be cautious and learn more before using the alphabet."
The 49 Calles might be considered as keys unlocking the 49 Gates of Understanding as understood in the Kabbalah, including the final unspoken Calle for the 50th Gate which can only be opened by the Messiah...Dee and Kelley read works such as 'Portae Lucis'...
Perhaps languages came from the angels as during the occurrence at the tower of babel. So our languages, in part, could have come from the angels not the other way around?
I would love for someone with the proper knowledge to compare this language with that of Hamptonese. A language created by a fascinating artist who not only created the most amazing divine throne room made from garbage he collected on the streets that was completely covered in aluminum foil he had also many writings from the bible translated from his own language as well. His throne i believe is in thr Smithsonian now.
Can you cross reference this with music chord processions in multiple diatonic forms? I mean in that if this is the way the world was created through ‘song’? You could look at jazz especially. Mozart was allowed much and Wagner. Then there is what offered from Hinduism creation. Is this an early search in particle physics of sorts? How could this be placed over string theory? Creation of the universe(s) would come across frightening/demonic. The whole language would be processed based upon what a human could best convey, Angels being messengers and sentinels of all that is mathematics would be the root for everything. This is a piece, movements to fill in some of the feedback loops of creation?
Dee was obviously a genius and Kelley obviously a reprobate. Either Kelley was more clever than we think, or less of a reprobate than we think - or Dee was so absorbed by the possibilities that he gave Kelley far too much slack. It ended badly for them both, unsurprisingly. The whole ear cutting/wife swapping/treasure hunting thing is really hard to swallow whole. I think Hollywood would only add to the confusion, with drastic alteration of the facts to suit some love interest character that the producer has slept with.
The ear cropping happened before he met Dee, for coining or forgery or both. But yes to all the other things. Kelley was also probably suffering from pre-existing mental health issues which his time with see only exacerbated.
@@TheEsotericaChannel haha yes, I read that. But surely, having one's ears cropped for forgery is a clue.....a red flag, even. Is this bloke on the level....hmmmm. Dee's genius has to be called into question. Poor Dee. I like him.
@@amanitamuscaria7500 yeah, you'd think but Kelley was a walking red flag in so many ways but also really 'talented' at skrying, for lack of a better word. Dali was a fascist turd who got his friends killed, a talented draftsman, though.
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I will play the part of Dr.Dee with expertise in your film for Free!. And you will have a hit film!.
When I hang out with my friends, we drink and play D&D. Dee and Kelley summoned angels and learned songs from them. We need to step it up.
Philip- We are the poorer generation!
I mean... are we entirely certain that's not what this is? "Hey, John, ready for another sessions of Angels & Antichrists?" "*sigh* Fine, but there'd better be loot this time!"
Bullshit.
LOOOL
those gotta be top 40 hits...
After struggling to learn Spanish, German and Japanese at least I learned that the sounds we make with our mouths in English are not the only way to make those sounds.
The L/R in Japanese is a great example of how limited our perception of phonemes is when coming from English. Conversely, Japanese speakers are working with a very limited set of sounds. Possibly the most constrained of any language. English requires many more versions of the vowels sounds than they are used to. Plus we have dipthongs, and a wildly heterogeneous orthography.
I bought a rough bough though.
Another great example is the V/W in German which is (ironically?) softer than it's English cousin.
I mention this not to undermine Dee's Enochian language. But to point out, he only had the tools at hand to transcribe this with.
If you only know English vowel sounds, you will imitate other languages with those sounds.
That is the first level of learning a 2nd language after all.
He may have had some Latin and French. But who is to say he did not pronounce this with a Cockney accent?
My personal theory is that 4th dimensional teenagers where messing with Dee and Kelley.
My intuition is to try applying Hindi and Sanskrit to the Enochian system, which is one method I will one day try once I learn it more along with coding, as I believe the Enochian language is more math and coding based... because it's what the universe is coded in.
@@Alienami you should do this. Especially sanscrit. Match the similar symbols and sounds and you will find it ⛤❤⛤
I think you would love to learn Brazilian Portuguesw
@@Alienamiy’all know english is the final destination of earth till an endless time right?
Love the channel. Dr. Sledge's dry sense of humor really shines through. Keep up the good work, it's important. ♡
His sense of humor reminds me of my two favorite professors in the Religious Studies dept of my old University... comes with the territory I suppose.
An Eggers/Sledge production? YES! Feature length, mini series, anything! Yes, please!
Yeah, they really need to hmu
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SORRY FOR SHOUTING IM JUST EXCITED
Welcome to the party, have a drink and settle in
Thank you for this series on Enochianna. I am very much enjoying it!
Ha! I literally said to myself, "This is confusing", and then you said "Are you confused?" right after. That was hilarious, lol. Great video amigo. Time to go sailing!
Yep, the Enochian stuff is crazy complicated - just keeping track of all the little weird details is tough. Hope you're well and enjoy the sailing, brother!
Absolutely heavenly - feels like I'm in another dimension listening to these divine sounds :)
Fascinating stuff.
Have you ever looked into Hamptonese? The "language" used by American mystic and outsider artist James Hampton in his notebooks?
Also he tried to construct a divine throne room.
I'll have to check it out!
I'll have to look into that as well. Thanks Bojo!
I really LOVE this series. Very well done!
Oddly enough, the enochian stuff has been a huge influence on the band Tool, especially the drummer Danny Carey. Their new album is called Fear Inoculum which can be said Fear Enoch-ulum. There’s tons of references beyond that. Big hello from Memphis
Or fear inoculum as in wordplay on inoculation?
Like Maynard says, if you don't believe in magic your art probably sucks
The heptagram from the seal of God is always prominent in their more recent live shows.
Great point.The band The Jam wrote a song called burning sky on the 1979 album setting sons Written as a realist contacting a friend and how foolish young ideals are...wink
There’s also references to Hermeticism in lyrics like “As below so above and beyond I imagined” in Lateralus. If you go to Danny Carey’s personal page he sells Tshirts with his personal sigils on them. Their occult references go way back. Their also really into Jung
Dee and Kelly should be made into a film. Or a mini series. Drama with elements of comedy and horror.
Like a field in England
Actually you should do a review A Field in England
Oh yes! Such a good film!
Sam Raimi Evil Dead-style would work wonderfully
Thankyou for this document DOC
I'm so embarrassed, for some reason while I was listening to the first few minutes, I was like "I didn't know they had to build furniture for the first year- no one ever mentioned this!"
So much stuff, like you need an enochian Ikea or something
@@TheEsotericaChannel 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't thank you enough for this amazing work you do. 🙏⭐️
I'm very new, but Enochian magick is one of the more intriguing schools to me, thanks in large part to your videos on the subject
was waiting for this video. thanks
cant wait for the buried treasure escapades video 🍿
Thanks!🙏🏾 A Beautiful review of an impossible bit of Occult knowledge..!😛👍🏾 I tried to work with the system earlier in life... Wow! Mind blown.
This guy cracks me up so much I could re watch these videos hundreds of times and I probably will. Theres also a good bit of useful wisdom, maybe one day I’ll find a use for it. For now, the sense of humor(antihumor?) is workin for me😂
Fabulous, yet again, Dr. Sledge! Thank you for sharing yourself, and your vast cache of knowledge with us. So very much valued and appreciated!
The implication that humans are better at Math than Angels made me laugh out loud 🤣🤣🤣
GOD IS A MATHEMATICIAN WHICH IS UNIVERSAL. I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN DREAMS VIA MY DECEASED MOTHER THIS LANGUAGE, A BIT A JEBERISH. HO I'M GOOD AS WELL AT GEOMETRY AND LANGUAGES WICH I SPEAK SEVERAL FLUENTLY. I AM FRANCO AMERICAN FROM OLD AQUITAINE.
I'd love to see how you'd break down Crowley's "The Vision and The Voice", his own take on and crying session of the 30 Aethyrs that seems to have laid out many tenets and themes of Thelema.
Do an episode on the Black Pullet, because magical infernal treasure finding chickens are the kind of sorcery that's right up my alley. Also it was written in that curious period in between Napoleon's Egyptian adventure and the deciphering of the Rosetta Stone, a curious time for European Orientalists.
Treasure finding you say? He must!
You have my undying gratitude good sir. I ILIVE FOR THIS!
Deciphering and analyzing the cryptographical and mathematical symmetry of this system mentally is far more pleasurable than anything I know
The speaking of governance concerns the Zodiacal signs which are the archetypes of the human mind.
The cryptographic nature of the system allows one to peer into the collective human unconscious to retrieve information.
This has a lot in common with what Dee's predecessor Trithemius who more or less fathered what we know in Stenographia
The applicability of using the system for espionage is great considering one is interfacing through each call with the archetypes themselves
It's not the structure of the system, rather that is arbitrary, but the very act of encryption speaks to the unoncsious directly in and of itself)
or at least that's the idea from what I am gathering thus far.The numerals as noted at 24:26 qre all numbers that appear in the calles themselves, and are and encryption of sorts themselves I'd wager.
I appreciate your excellent scholarly work immensely. Thank you, thank you, thank you.. Your podcasts have quickly become my absolute favorite..
Most assuredly, I will be watching this episode innumerate times... (Happily listening to each one btw.) Great show this week~ Kudos, Dr.
Looking forward to the future exploration’s into “Enochianna” with you Dr Sledge. Thank you for another wonderful presentation
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Thank you for another fascinating and educational video
Hearing you talk about Dee and Kelly’s treasure hunting misadventures makes me want another video about treasure hunting and magick.
Another awesome episode, Dr. Sledge!
With your kind help - looking forward to chatting Wednesday evening!
@@TheEsotericaChannel - I can't wait! As long as you don't mind me being a total fan-boi for the first fifteen minutes or so... :) :) :)
Ha! I'm just happy that someone of your knowledge and practice respects the work I do - it means a ton to me.
@@TheEsotericaChannel - Same!
Awesome content! Just subscribed and am loving all of it. Keep it up. Much love and appreciation.
I wouldn't want a movie (too short), but you could definately work a 6-8 part miniseries. That I'd watch when it first came out rather than waiting 3 years before I watched it.
I second this!
Like always a wonderfull episode. I leave with more questions then when I started
🎀The Kate Vincent Bridges (R.I.P) and Dan Winters did an amazing lecture about John Dee and the Enochian Angels. It’s here on UA-cam, have you seen it?🎀
Bob Dobbs has an excellent exegesis of the Keys and the Aethyrs.
@@euansmith3699 THE Bob Dobbs, from iON & Bob.
Was very informative. Thank you :)
Thanks for knowledge. Truly
loved this so much! thanks again for these brilliant videos, love the channel, LOVE all your work, keep on making people informed through your content and happy from your funny jokes :))
I had a experience where my room was filled with the Enochian language like something out of a Dr. Strange movie and got me interested in studying it.
I did not realize at the time what being I was talking to, the Archangel Sage Bhrigu (mind born son of Lord Brahma, the god responsible for the video graphics and coding of the living holographic simulation), or that the language was Enochian, until I did research after the event because I had never studied or really seen it before outside a character or two in shows like Supernatural...
And weirder still was it was from Hinduism I got into this.
However, it seems Metatron is the other name this archangel goes by, and then suddenly it made sense.
They had me put a specific image on my computer screen, which came to life during all this and began doing smile, neutral and frown gestures with its mouth, and it's hands flowed and moved around.
They filled my room with golden glowing text and sandy shadowy black and grey text, representing the polarity of the words I believe, black hole energy or 0 and white hole energy or 1. The basis of coding.
My computer screen was wreathed in a fixed string of text while the other text had a 1.5 second refresh rate that didn't care if I saw the text or not.
My walls became other people's walls from the Multiverse, apparently... I was filled with a deep sense of "We aren't in Kansas anymore Todo" / Mandala Effect to the extreme, the Netflix movie Synchronic is the best explanation I can give... But not time travel, just on the verge of dimensional travel.
I was smoking DMT while on LSD, D9 distillate, and alcohol... As they told me to do... Trying to recreate Soma from Hinduism and the Greece knockoff, apparently.
There was, besides all the angels and Magick text and walls changing, no feeling of being high... And no traditional psychedelic visuals, just everyday life but more fish eyed camera effect and I could detect a fuzziness to objects, as if I could see their atomic ion superpositions.
There were also these yellow and orange with random Green sparks of flame, squat body shape, short, bugeyed fire elementals who were harassing me during this apparent lesson, by making me nauseous by presumably attacking me via my lower chakras which would be their easiest port of entry due to their lower vibrational energy, as they come from the lower pocket dimensions of reality based on Vedic Cosmology map.
I think they were there by the will of the divine and not so much an evil attack or something... Apparently I get hardcore lessons...
I feel called to one day take on the work of understanding the Enochian language, after I study coding more and create some machine learning algorithms to make my life easier doing this.
Since then, I have learned to talk telepathically with angels... And I assure you they have a great sense of humor and love to troll the fuck out of humans and give wrong answers, which is why and where much of this Enochian language doesn't make sense and contradicts itself.
They weren't paying enough attention to different communication channels, where the real answer was given.
But angels exist outside of time as we know it, so it is likely this wasn't meant to be completed by these two people then and there.
Angel anatomy, by the way, resembles things like single cell organisms and jelly fish, at least the ones I tend to have visits from...but made of energy and code using the Enochian computer code language, but not at first glance... Which is done best with your eyes closed, helps remove extraneous data and helps you focus your chakras and get a better synesthesia visual in your brain.
Angels are amazing beings, very complex.
Great work Lord Sledge
Enochian linguistic structure certainly sets it apart as far as revealed or inspired languages.
Some of the miscellaneous formulas or sayings provide insight, Liber Loagaeth, and the magical items probably will continue to expose meaning and purpose to it.
The subjective features make Angelic, Celestial Speech, Adamical great for pathworking of personal psychology in a physical friendly sphere.
Thanks!
My wife left me recently and I'm so happy now. My only worry is that she could come back. I don't wish her any ill will but can you make a video on Enochian magic on how to banish ex-wives forever. Please, please, please. 😊
You wouldn’t need to go to that extent to banish an ex. There are still levels to magik.. that level would be too far and unnecessary..
@@antwanstowe6561 I appreciate your reply but you never met my ex. I would have loved to see a demon try to possess her. He wouldn't have ever tried to possess anyone again.😊
Thanks for all your great videos
Dr Sledge, I would love to play D&D with you.
Thanks
Amazing topic and video will watch many more !
I’m about halfway through this & although the whole endeavour is historically fascinating I’m forced to ask out loud “has anyone ever found any use for any of these writings at all?“
I mean, does ANYONE claim to actually be able to ‘speak’ Enochian?
Also had there ever been any writings, before or after Dee and co, revealed in anyway?
The lad himself, Aleister Crowley was a big fan. He did a lot of sex magic with it though, rather than look for buried treasure. But who knows, maybe Dee and Kelly had a secret bromance going on?
@@merseyviking 😉
I suppose all I’m waffling on about is I’d really like to know “more“ but there isn’t really any more is there?
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(Maybe I expect too
much from magick!!)
@@njr819 I can't say for sure, but I think he got a lot of sex out of it. 😁
As he was such a larger than life character, venerated and hated in equal measure, you never know what he wrote was true in any sense, or just Crowley being Crowley. I know the good doctor generally doesn't dabble in Victorian/modern practitioners, Crowley was such a big deal at the time that it would be good for him to step out of his comfort zone a bit. That said, there are other channels who I am sure will have covered Crowley.
@@BeesWaxMinder enochian is utilized in the golden dawn tradition as well as in thelema Crowley and Parsons both use enochian in ritual and tons of others in ceremonial magick even today
@@redred1121 thanks for that info!
So it’s a language that people can actually understand or are the “sounds of it“ merely intoned, as it were, for use in ceremony?
Amzing topic, amazing work
the part about international espionage is the least surprising bit of all of this. You can reveal the divine language of Creation to humans right from the mouth of God himself and it won't take long before one of them will think up a wholly mundane and worldly use for it
One day I'm going to create a compilation of Dr. Justin's "one day this will get an episode" comments that have, to date, never gotten an episode. Someone has to hold the man accountable for his promises!
always big time, b'li neder on those :)
Thank you
If it was a hoax by Kelly, it was an unbelievably elaborate one.
Well its how he made a living so I wouldn't put anything past him. For all we know he's just the greatest magical conman of his time.
I feel personally that any language used to commune with an Angelic being would be not so much words but a cosmic symphony of harmonies.
As I was told as a child "Raise your voice to the heavens"
Perhaps when we see any reference to the word "Key" perhaps it is to the pitch of one's voice.
Vibration & frequency.
And yes I am probably quite mad at this point.
Thank you and Blessings upon you and yours.
They are feeling creatures. You are very close to the truth.
Hey, new to your channel but I’ve been working badly with enochian ever since coming across it. I even at one point played a game of enochian chess, on yes a four dimensional enochian chess board (that’s not a joke). The flashes you receive whilst playing are supposed to reveal truths.
Aside from all of that, I have often like many pondered the actual composition of the enochian sessions. I mean they had all of the trappings, the tablet, board, etc. They then sat down and started the sessions, lots of I am sure miss starts, breaks, food, toilet and they did this day after day. As long con jobs go, I’m still unsure what Kelly talbot was working towards. Which is why I would be fascinated if you did a video around the counter factual aspects as they have always keenly interested me.
We know dee checked some of the angelic answers against Greek, which Kelly supposedly didn’t read. We also know the angels warned dee about Kelly. We also know that these tables are complex and mistakes are made really easily. I find it hard to think that Kelly managed to have in his head or even written down, the tables, the words, the order and could then provide those an answers backwards ?
That’s why I would love you to do a serious examination of what would be necessary for this to occur. By which I mean, let’s assume Kelly was on the con, what would he have had to hold on his head to be able to transmit this information ? Indeed info which it seems dee and Kelly never actually used, plus as things started very tediously the angels even slipped into an easier system.
One of the favourite explanations is that this was an alien being who was able to transmit non local ideas and latched onto Kelly. I beleive there is part of the conversation where the angel says he will no longer be able to commune after a certain date. Could this be due to planetary alignment ? We’re the stars just right when they started speaking and the alien knew it had limited window ?
There’s a lot to go at here, given the fact that anyone who has even a cursory look at the enochian language and tables realises it’s very very complex, non trivial and is indeed a system whatever that system is. We have been left with what magic should look like here if magic is indeed a thing. Magic should look like complex, hard work and resemble say a complex scientific document that also contains graphs, calculations, method etc.
If magic is a thing, then that thing would of course resemble other complex human endeavours and this ticks that box. So a video on ideas and certainly what would have to have been true if it was all a Kelly con job would I’m sure make excellent viewing.
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That's my answer
I really loved that Robert Eggers reference lol
Being in the word wow has a life of its own wow
"This dude was no Tolkein" 😂 That line made me laugh out loud!
Yeah, it's great stuff.
Dee's magic tables resemble Schoenberg's 12 tone matrix quite a bit
Okay, so Dr. Sledge screenwrites together with Robert Eggers, who then directs. Who should play Dee and Kelley? I nominate John Lithgow and Willem Dafoe respectively.
Hearing that Gabriel explained their use of numbers as means of communication and expression, rather than prices and the allotting of perceived value, gives a much wider speculation on the beliefs of Pythagoras. Given that merchants use numbers based around the monetary value using gold, silver, and so on, it seems to me that concepts like mathematical constants (like how we can graph wind patterns and projections with quadratics) speak a lot louder than they're given credit.
Edit: No, I'm horrible at math. Like, embarrassingly bad. But when mathematicians say that math is another written language, I wonder how deep that statement truly is.
Thank you.I"m completlely connected. to this knowledge. I don't want to but I have to.There's no other reason to live for.I didn't heard the name of angel Michael during your speach.
"...you're going to alternatively need whiskey and espresso for that roller coaster..." Wonderful caveat! I wonder if it's all just a way of saying, "When you get there, there's no there, there." That would be the Zen solution. Or, in a more cynical view, it might be much ado about nothing...or no-thing, i.e., the No-thing that is God. It's all so mind-blowingly complex that it actually stops thought so that only experience remains. Just an alternate opinion. I think your work on this channel is both gargantuan as well as heroic, sir! Love to you from a mystic traveler and fan of The Cosmos.
I think it's my way of saying it's probably an elaborate quasi-fraud.
@@TheEsotericaChannel Now that's interesting because after i posted my comment The Voynich Manuscript flashed into my mind. as my next possible take on this saga. Great minds...LOL
Did an episode on that one too though there's no evidence of any connection between the ms and dee/kelly
@@TheEsotericaChannel Understood. And, yes, I did watch your Voynich episode. Very well done. I am still in the process of working on fathoming all of your videos, so I have work to do. But just as a passing thought on mysticism and mystical writings I am reminded of Lily Tomlin's great line, "When we talk to God it's called prayer. When God talks to us it's called schizophrenia."
Great job, per usual Dr Sledge 👍
Invented language is a fascinating thought exercise, like speculative zoology.
It's always nice to learn about invented languages: my girl Hildegard came up with a pretty 🔥 one- lingua ignota.
Yes, if any two figures need a movie, it's Apuleius or John Dee; Julian would be another one- imagine the CGI on those animated statues 🙏💚🐢🐍
I had heard about some of this, and the writing of these two is at least prolific. Now, to throw in some relatively modern theory on things, there is some argument to be made of the mind of the receiver lacking full tools to express a language he had not the relative concepts to understand, on the one hand (what is water to an angel and a man, so that you could share each others words for it?) and likely drug or diseased prattling with a set of "guiderails" in the form of dee asking most of the right questions to keep a sense of functionality, lastly the whole thing being a form of either a paycheck or scam, where if he runs out of material, he runs out of money. Part of (possibly) why most other scholars in the area either make sure to make no solid claims if possible, or are self supported enough they do not care for the next reader finding it useful or gilded to the point of a smooth plate, as some could say about ones like perhaps agrippa or some of the more mysterious grimoire authors just prior to this period.
Thank you so much for sharing your (I suspect very hard earned) knowledge.
I don't know why, I get the feeling both these characters are getting way too much
credit. The handwriting, is superb on those notes....
"Whisky and espresso..." Ha Ha! There is uncovered a pearl of great price in such pursuits. blessed be.
Thanks for sharing your personal view of what these things mean or where they "come from." I'm always curious about that.
I tend to see it myself as an interplay between mythology, cultural symbols, and the subconscious mind of John Dee. But like you, I'm still on "team Altogether More Complex." My tendency to see it the way I just described doesn't mean I think I can dismiss it or know with certainty what was going on. There's still room for mystery. (I'm a Unitarian Universalist; that's our thing. 😄) I don't tend to think of these writings as revelations of special, privileged truth, but I also wouldn't see them as a "con job" exactly. Perhaps a little bit of a con of John Dee's surface mind by his own deeper/larger self.
Dr. Sledge is the boss, had I enough to pay bills or buy food I would donate, and one day, I will!
unrelated but will you ever do an episode on Jacob Boehme, an absolutely extraordinary mystic who also had a large influence of Hegel and Schelling.
There are many mathematical scholars on the channel Numberphile, I'd love to see their take on the tables.
Clan brujah chooses Dr sledge for the embrace. Need to get him before the tremere take him.
What in the angels' name were Dee and Kelley taking? I want some for this Saturday, I feel in the mood to invent some new language that no one, not even me can understand. I'll call it upper celestial speech.
U have a new suscriptor is very intesting i want if u can Talk about the Nicolás flamel.
Whole episode about him
"Enochianna" would be a great name for an album. Not sure if it suits Black Metal though (sorry, Dr. Sledge 🙏🏻). I get more of a mid-nineties alternative/grunge vibe.
(The band most likely to name their album Enochianna was probably The Tea Party, but I doubt many people even know who they are.)
Definitely prog
As always, thanks again Dr Sledge...' you're a brick ' 🙂
what is stopping here from thinking that D was talking to demons rather than angels??
I saw the English word. Ox. At the end of the list your floral means flower or any plate life
Very cool
It would be such a great movie. I dont know what happened with dee and kelley but their fear and isistence correlated with the angels fuckery and completely unreasonable desires is one of the best reads one can do. specially drunk.
Is that why the emphasis of words defiling you? Ya know, the metaphysics of words.
"I hope you'll join me for more Enochiana." Yes. Please. 👍
By furniture, are you referring to chairs, tables and other physical furniture of the like?
The stangest thing is that I am reading the book The Tortuous Serpent by Donald Tyson and the main characters are John Dee and Edward Kelley. I thought that they were fictitious charachters. I don't know how and why I decided to hear about the enochian language sound and normally I do not believe in coincidences. But then again strange things happen in life.
Almost halfway through and still no buried treasure ☹️
Ooo, there it is!
You knew it was coming!
@@TheEsotericaChannel Excellent talk! Thank you for making it!👍
@@brocknspectre1221 can you inbox my mail and put me through ?
@@bellathomas1315 No chance👎
"It is important to note, however, that the Enochian alphabet is used in certain esoteric practices and using it without the proper knowledge and guidance is not recommended. If you are not familiar with these practices, it may be better to be cautious and learn more before using the alphabet."
I needed coffee and whisky just for this video. They wouldn't suffice if I looked at the actual documents. This is a huge brain-twister.
The 49 Calles might be considered as keys unlocking the 49 Gates of Understanding as understood in the Kabbalah, including the final unspoken Calle for the 50th Gate which can only be opened by the Messiah...Dee and Kelley read works such as 'Portae Lucis'...
That's leitch's argument
@@TheEsotericaChannel Ahh, yes, linking with the Jubilee cycle. That's the Angel Nalvage's argument, I believe.
"Shey gadán sonsayara." (Every word is a portal).
Post script him - the Anacreon calls are the hardest things to figure out
Perhaps languages came from the angels as during the occurrence at the tower of babel. So our languages, in part, could have come from the angels not the other way around?
If I'm just a lay person seeking for truth and just a basic sense of this knowledge, where would I begin 🤔?
Nice informative
I would love for someone with the proper knowledge to compare this language with that of Hamptonese. A language created by a fascinating artist who not only created the most amazing divine throne room made from garbage he collected on the streets that was completely covered in aluminum foil he had also many writings from the bible translated from his own language as well. His throne i believe is in thr Smithsonian now.
Can you cross reference this with music chord processions in multiple diatonic forms? I mean in that if this is the way the world was created through ‘song’? You could look at jazz especially. Mozart was allowed much and Wagner. Then there is what offered from Hinduism creation. Is this an early search in particle physics of sorts?
How could this be placed over string theory?
Creation of the universe(s) would come across frightening/demonic.
The whole language would be processed based upon what a human could best convey, Angels being messengers and sentinels of all that is mathematics would be the root for everything. This is a piece, movements to fill in some of the feedback loops of creation?
Do the two volumes of "The Angelical Language" provide the tools to translate texts into Enochian?
Yep
@@TheEsotericaChannel Thanks! Then I don't think I'm gonna be able to overcome the temptation of buying them.
Have you considered that it may be more like computer language? perhaps an A.I. can decode it
Dee was obviously a genius and Kelley obviously a reprobate. Either Kelley was more clever than we think, or less of a reprobate than we think - or Dee was so absorbed by the possibilities that he gave Kelley far too much slack. It ended badly for them both, unsurprisingly. The whole ear cutting/wife swapping/treasure hunting thing is really hard to swallow whole. I think Hollywood would only add to the confusion, with drastic alteration of the facts to suit some love interest character that the producer has slept with.
The ear cropping happened before he met Dee, for coining or forgery or both. But yes to all the other things. Kelley was also probably suffering from pre-existing mental health issues which his time with see only exacerbated.
@@TheEsotericaChannel haha yes, I read that. But surely, having one's ears cropped for forgery is a clue.....a red flag, even. Is this bloke on the level....hmmmm. Dee's genius has to be called into question. Poor Dee. I like him.
@@amanitamuscaria7500 yeah, you'd think but Kelley was a walking red flag in so many ways but also really 'talented' at skrying, for lack of a better word. Dali was a fascist turd who got his friends killed, a talented draftsman, though.
@@TheEsotericaChannel hahaha brilliant 👏