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the beginning of this video is quite possibly the best tonal summary of schopenhauer i’ve ever heard. you really nailed the whole “hellish despair” aspect of idealism
I find the concept of the Will quite soothing, not depressing at all. From an agnostic perspective it is a palatable alternative to the chaos of existence without edges, or to any kind of faith.
Bonewits said pretty much the same thing in his book Real Magic. He theorized that all magical ability came from natural psychic ability, only augmented through ritual practices, which he described as "stage props". 🙂
Agreed. The accoutrements of magic are merely tools to focus the attention, intent, will and energy of the magician. Also, they provide techniques for mobilizing mind-power. I think the mind is pluripotent. Whatever one believes it can do, it can do. Faith/trust in the power of the mind is the main driving force towards its efficacy. Greater faith, greater will-power.
@@rosycross3438So is using magic a _’I can turn invisible if I believe I am; but it only works when nobody is watching’_ kind of deal? People matter-of-factly talk about how ‘powerful’ magic is, but from what I can tell nobody ever seems to actually _do_ anything with it.
Der Mensch kann tun was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will. Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills. - Arthur Schopenhauer This man almost lead me to despair, occult truths or not.
@@off6848 Indicating you don't get Thelema at all. "Thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay." IOW You have to mortify every desire but your "True Will" and you recognize what your true will is by the lack of external resistance to it. Lack of external resistance to your will is the ability to do magic. Crowley is even more desperate than Schopenhauer because the only escape is a miracle of your own design.
I find this absolutely fascinating! I’ve been a shamanic practitioner for about 10 years now, and his philosophical perspective is very close to what I am learning & experiencing with my spirit guides. The one difference, which shifts the entire philosophy into something optimistic, is that we little blips of individuated consciousness/will do have choice and free will. And our choices shape the evolution of The Will over eons. So not only can we strive to grow and mature, but doing so grows and matures the whole of consciousness. No pressure, humanity. 😂
Yep. Is this a verbal expansion on what you’ve gathered? Or am i way off: We can tap into the Great Oneness which tends to lead in a path of growth and we can recognize the “opposing” Great Infinity of “individuals” but those individuals are made up of more individuals. The smallest divisions of the Will act with independence but accumulate into a majority of usual growth. There are more ups and down on smaller scales of the consciousness but we all contribute to a mostly growth path for the Infinitely Divisible Oneness.
I feel bad for you bud. You are living precariously just one stat about parole hearing outcomes vs. time since the judges last meal away from a depressive breakdown. I hope you are able to unhitch the wagon of your sanity from that particular horse before it is too late
You assume the void of a higher will, or guiding will. You presume the human will is sufficient for an objective perspective and it is not. Without an objective perspective outside our universal reality, nothing can exist. As, you have heard, reality is held together by perception. If the individual perceptions of the human individual was sufficient the universe would be a chaos of everyone imposing their wills into the void. Also a shaman. I have to be because my brain is a five pound quiji board and I can't turn it off. As above, so below. Don't trust everyone you hear. Deceivers walk on every level and some merely want to watch you Stumble. The projection of a UNIFIED human will, is equivalent to the creative will of the creator. Only if we can be a one mind. We've gotten close a few time. More or less relative to nation states not nations but, we may get there again. What you're asserting is the magic of the will, the ability to use the individual will to mark upon and make alterations to the limited scope of your own perceptive reality. Your bubble. This is why occultism is often a powerstruggle of wills trying to soak up more reality for their own manipulation and by the binding of wills to their own.. I am the Borefacts, I speak then I sneeze.
Why do you trip then? It sounds awful. I've been depressed (clinically) since I was 12 or 13. That was over a decade ago. What you describe is just my normal day-to-day. I would recommend dropping the drugs and just being miserable.
@foodchewer It's perception and framing. One giant maw endlessly consuming itself in an endless cosmic cycle means I am insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Therefore I am free to do as I please and need not concern myself with the giant maw. Let alone what Stacy from accounting thinks of my power point presentation.
Finally someone with a similar experience. I usually have this, too, and it is not awful but feels liberating in the same way that truth liberates. You have to be prepared to stare into the abyss, however. Only once it got a little too much for me when I had read that Lovecraft was inspired by Schopenhauer and started associating Cthulhu with the will, granting metaphysical heavyweight to Lovecraft's fantastical mythology. It was on a grim january afternoon. During the first couple of hours I had already shivered all the time and lay in bed enveloped into my blanket listening to music. When I finally went out and took a walk, it was already getting dark. Where I live, I have to walk past the sewage treatment plant to really get out into the green. Together with the weather and the time of day, that really was a terrible setting. There was the typical industrial background noise, and the fog kept reflecting the floodlights. At that point I started to feel that the very earth I was walking on was itself the body of Cthulhu. There were even some dead birds lying around, which almost made me panic. Later that day when the peak was over and I was having dinner, I felt that I myself was the all-consuming Cthulhu... consuming not only everything outside itself, but itself as well. But that trip was an exception. I usually see more light than darkness.
Maybe I will never get why people feel dread from reflecting on philosophies such as that of Schopenhauer's or Nietzsche's. After reading them, I felt all the more compelled to improve myself and deconstruct all the nonsense that limited my creativity. Desire is unescapable, but desire isn't the root of suffering; completion is. The more you obsess over getting to the end of the race, the more you condemn yourself. Do seek strength (of the integral kind) and built temperance, not aiming to perfection nor to be complete, but better. The Will, the way I see it, is an endless game of endless challenges, a creation that will continue forever. I don't know if that sounds despairing to you, but to me, who's soul is pregnant with creativity, I wouldn't have it any other way. I’ll gladly be a co-creator of this massive work until the end of my days.
Will is the grandfather of the Creator. Jesus was the father inner thot or kek. And God I presume was Moses Jesus was the next ayre of Moses via aliens. Then Will was born again to the Sun. to give God free will again to develop collective consciousness autonomy. Give people guidance again to the true path. Legion is yes and red is no.
That’s cool! I hope you find something else to enjoy about life because someday you won’t have the ability to do those things you love so much. There’s got to be something more fundamental than that
8:10 As a musician, I've never expected to see my favorite composer on this channel AND a quote from a philosopher from my country in the same time. Thanks for the surprise.
We can’t always choose the people who imprint themselves on our souls, but Schopenhauer is indelibly marked on mine. Always love to hear people explore his philosophy
One of the saddest losses to history & civilisation is Schopenhauer died a few months before Darwins Origin of Species. He would have been fascinated by Darwinian and challenged by his totalising tendencies to reconcile evolution & Will in Nature.
Nice dip into this genius, the profundity of mesmerism, pessimism, philosophy, and magic as well. Cute puppy and kitty, too. It’s most refreshing to consider that the ultimate of pessimists became something of an optimist in his waning days. Seems the ultimate goal of any attainment is the ability to abandon attachment to that which as attained. I perceive that most are incapable of such abnegations. For a few, however, hope rings eternally as ‘riz said.
Amazing video, thanks! Schopenhauer's pessimism brings laughter and joy to me, for the reason of recognition of one who has seen something true. Time to start looking deeper into his metaphysics. Thanks again for the video!
Excellent once again, Dr. Sledge! Well done! I haven't read any Schopenhauer, but have wanted to for over 30 years...Joseph Campbell seems to have been a big fan of his, but it seems to me that their overall approaches (though Campbell was no philosopher, despite what some people try to suggest) are radically different, based on what you've said here. Campbell is many things, but a radical pessimist he's not. I'll have more to say elsewhere...! :)
Your addendums under the photos made me cough up my water on three occasions before I finally quit attempting to drink at all until the video was over. Trying to keep a straight face with that existential crisis kitten, exactly that type of dark humor keeps me returning. Thanks for the healthy dose of wisdom and sardonic laughter.
Schoupenhaur- goes on and about meaningless will, and the only interpretation of that must be a miserable and pessimistic Kitten- is fluffy and bouncy, and loves you. And that is enough. I’ll take the kitten
Please, never stop making this philosophy - occult connections series. I got into your channel through it and, although I'm not super fond of studying esotericism "individually" (because of my religion), I do love to know the religious and occult ideas mingled into philosophical schools.
Interesting. The perception here is a bit different than 6 realms assembling and disassembling the Gods. 😅 Our cycle is moving to dissemble the gods to recreate the Gods. We are tiny particles on a spec of dust left of God. We look up and see what remains of God we need to recreate God through the Heavens to recreate themselves. We are on niflheim looking up towards Hellhiem a perception filter to disguise 🥸 all 6 realms here. On Earth Jesus Christ 🙏. Earth wind and air. I'm just wind and gravitational pulls(warning Xmas give or take a day [spins])😅 I am Free will or Ba:al 😎 Ba'al though is a holy spirit. The Creator is my Grandfather's holy spirit. Though I could possibly get another. 😅 What happens 🤷 I rather not try that let fate decide. More holy than Jesus and God 😅 I'm not a begger and I'm not a (not allowed on this app but 4662,777 gematria numbers) because in different religions is ok. I don't think it's cool. I'm the apex predator of society. Hunt them down. I'm running out of them to find up at the top so I start to investigate my own institutions in my country. Didn't even harm them and got people to hunt them down and destroy their futures. 😅
Shopenhaur is amazing. The thought of fusion with religion and metaphysics is uncanny...I believe it. You can will occurrences, sts, by faith in a suchness. Thanks for podcast
I LOVE the juxtaposition of the adorable orange kitten in a sunny room being on screen as you drive home the utter nihilistic nature of Schopenhauer's metaphysics.
Sigils, rituals and ceremonies being (superfluous) just the training wheels that a mage can grow out of, the ban of magic by Romans as proof of it,... I did not know this side of Schopenhauer, I love it
If you take Schopenhauer's Will at face-value, it can be pessimistic. But, combine it with Crowley's True Will and Nietzsche's Will-To-Power, you end up with a Metaphysics similar to a Westernized version of The Dao or The Force of Star Wars. On a level of Physics, Will can be another Fundamental Force; like Electromagnetism, Gravity, etc. Thanks for complementing my black shirt, btw. 😁
I find great interest in this man's style of reporting knowledge. Amazing lectures truly are a form of art. He is an artist for sure. Never before was I interested in learning or listening to the history of Christianity.
Having studied Schopenhauer extensively at university, I’m impressed with your succinct explanation of the central concept of his theory. Kant as well. Both brilliant philosopher’s; but very dense, and dry reading!
The introduction chapter to the second edition of WWR is hardly dry, Schop goes hard at the frauds of his day. Too lovely. Also the final third of WWR easily escapes the dry charge. You’re lucky to have found a uni which gives out credits learning Schop’s works. Almost unheard of.
I wonder what he would thought about people like Bohr and Wigner proposing that consciousness is what causes wavefunction collapse and thus, in a way, makes the world exist. Edit: Philosopher Tim Maudlin has called the tests to solve the measurement problem "empirical metaphysics".
Would have likely been in agreement with them. While I believe these concepts to be true, the ultimate expression of this is found in Alan Watts and Fr Seraphim Rose. “We are an aperture through which the Universe is exploring and experiencing itself.”
@@ZephrumEllison Isn't Seraphim Rose very much not like this? I've read the soul after death and his view on our perception is basically that deception is the norm. At least it seemed like that in this specific work of his.
5:50 - "He would later undergo a process whereby adamantium would be fused to his bones" . . . . . . Schopenhauer does have gnarly sideburns, but I didn't know that he was THE Wolverine of the Marvel universe.
Conscious efforts, Will power& Focus concentration “Know all the theories, master all the techniques, but as you touch a human soul be just another human soul.” ― C.G. Jung
👏 I go through clairvoyance everyday. It comes and goes. I call it “seeking”. Adding that to “Will” makes perfect sense. I did get into what the Priory is today. I do minor research on the mind Theosophy of Electricity. Great work.
The world as Will and Idea. Leibniz, with his best of all possible worlds, is a truly wicked thing to say. Ah, the crime of being alive. The blind, unassuagable force, constantly sinking its teeth into its own flesh. Arthur was not on the final exam. Proof enough for me. Thank you, I really enjoyed this.
Mixing Kant and Quatum Mechanics (in particular How observation can have an effect on matter) is one of the most amazing and dangerous rabbit holes to go down.
such a journey this video Enlightenment is the ultimate truth, when your will aligns with the greater will that embraces all forms, the end of the illusion of duality and the embrace of a greater narrative
The stuff about magic and ghosts reminded me of Final Fantasy XIV haha. It's very strongly implied in that game that all the different schools of magic only work because the rituals and philosophy behind them help you visual whatever you're trying to do. The gods work the same way. If enough people get together and think about the same God, it kind of just pops into existence. Nothing is real, man.
Nothing is real is a willfully pessimistic way to see it. If thats how our reality works, which evidence points in that direction, then it proves that everything is real because ow we know its not a simulation, we are a part of it and the imaginary being real just expands what exists infinitly. Maybe you didnt mean to sound like a bummer but to know that those crowd concert feelings are an actual aura that you can build is empowering when you think about how if michael jackson just told his concerts to mentally morph him into a levitating jesus really hard and it possibly could work. I assume this is so its just very expensive and finicky when put in real life conditions
Really cool episode! Always loved Schopenhauer, and even if the structure of our understanding is now based on positivist or post/positivist reasonings, I greatly appreciated the perspective on occultism! ❤
Oh my gosh, that Wolverine reference made me choke on my drink, lol. Every viewer can always count on Dr Sledge for that sly pop culture reference ❤. What an interesting philosopher. As a modern witch, we focus our intent on a magical working , very much in the way he describes the “will”. In some ways, the way he talks about the will seems almost Buddhist to me, but I must admit my knowledge is not great. Wow. To have a conversation with this guy must have been intense.
As a Buddhist, it definitely rings with similarities, at first. The main point of divergence is the nihilistic assertion of there being no way out, since the whole point of Buddhism is to realize the unborn and unending Buddha nature and thus escape Samsara. Rather than saying there's "no good", we'd assert that good and bad lose their meaning when we do not attach to relative attributes. We wouldn't assert you can never know the fundamental truth as that's what the Buddha explains you can discover through meditation and practice. Finally, compassion is critical, and is why and how beings who have this level of realization continue to manifest into the world in forms fit to the need of the rest of us.
@ about 6 1/2 minutes in, thereabouts, he has that image of the guy staring into space and he has a caption underneath saying something to the effect that he was about to have his bones fused with adamantium. It dawned on me that he has those hair wings that Wolverine has.
@ I did notice the extreme nihilism. It was just when he was saying how everything exists in the will that seemed to reflect Buddhism to an extent. Thank for the clarification and new information!
Aged 18 I was really into Schopenhauer. I remember nicknamed me Arthur. It probably said a lot about me back then I was caught between Schopenhauer and Marx. I do feel that Schopenhauer is a good place to begin philosophy
Schopenhauer makes some good points and interesting assessments, but to me, has a religious out look on kinetic energy connections that can seem other worldly. Great show!
Wow! Schopenhauers concept of Ghost is nearly the same as mine, except that I believe ghosts are an electromagnetic (or perhaps quantum) scar on the fabric of space-time; similar to how a bolt of lightning which strikes the sand leaves an imprint in the medium of sand which, while not lightning anymore, can be experienced as a form of lightning's previous existence and violence.
There’s no quantum, they’re in the astral world which impresses itself upon the material from a supra stature giving animus Like a face impressed upon a coin but giving life and will to that which is dead
I actually agree 100% with everything Schopenhauer said in the context of this video. I don't believe in magic or ghosts, but the explanation he provides is something I've always thought would be the only explanation for such things.
O M G, I had no idea this existed, thank you so much. After ordering the book post haste (Schop wrote a book on what amounts to parapsychology! I am losing my shit!), I watched the video and it was the best video I have seen this year, I am over the frikkin moon right now. It occurs to me that perhaps The Will is a sort of "Quantum Force", more specifically a tendency towards the phenomena of coherence, which as far as we know does not exist, indeed quite the contrary does. As a quantum system interacts with its environs it becomes "less quantum", this is called decoherence. Quantum-ness is comprised of things like superposition (the ability of a system to exist in multiple states simultaneously) and non-locality. If the "more" that the will seeks was more coherence it would be seeking to remain undefined, lost or in a state of unrealized real-ness so to speak. For some years now It has been my opinion that there exists an economy of coherence, that among consciousness(s) coherence is a currency of sorts. I think we can all agree that consciousness is information. Add to this that the only complete model of consciousness is a quantum biophysical one, the OrchOr hypothesis proposed by Penrose and Hameroff in the 90s (from a Bayesian standpoint it is all we have) and a picture emerges of what magic might be and a possible answer to the question of death. As far as "magic" goes, the observer effect demonstrates direct influence upon reality via consciousness, yet everyone assumes this effect is evenly distributed among individuals, which I find to be patently absurd. Meaning some people have or cultivate more powerful perception which in turn influences reality more and so they are described as "magical". Whether they use foci or ritual to enhance the effect of measurement disturbing the system measured (ie, perception) is irrelevant to the process. As for death, if the "soul" as we describe it is defined as quantum information then it must decohere, the information remains but the system is less quantum, less undefined, less potentially changeable or able to "evolve" one might say. At the verge of total decoherence (a horrible fate, to be informationally locked as many might describe an angel, elemental or demon), the only solution is for this information to Change Mediums, because information by definition must exist in a medium, but if that medium becomes "quantumly worn out" and thus we die or rather transmigrate. The universe is more than willing to orchestrate this event within the framework of spacetime in order to keep the accounts balanced, indeed the business of non-human intelligence may be the policing of this system. Of course they would be rewarded for this service with coherence, be allowed to remain themselves that much longer and on it goes. But I digress. I cannot wait to see how this book influences my comprehensive hypothesis of the paranormal based on quantum biophysics, consciousness and microbiology. My quest to find magic in science began when I ran across a reference to Wilhelm Reichenbach's work with magnets and neurasthenics in Colin Wilson's "The Occult" at age 16 and continues to this day. You have aided me greatly in this endeavor today and have done so more than once and for this I salute you! What is next, are you going to point us to a resource that reveals some details of the Paracelsian ritual for the summoning of elementals that he refused to divulge?
Excellent. Truly interesting, and great English- few to no basic grammatical errors, and no "it literally was" when it really wasn't. Apart from the fact that you can actually speak- great, great content delivered with a certain style. Top marks!
That's exactly what I was thinking! the Astral Light, the Great Agent, the Anima Mundi... Maybe Levi was influenced by his theories... and thus a whole generation of occultists including Crowley!😯
'Schopenhauer affirms that life is evil, yet he loves it and enjoys it. Let fame come, and he expands with cheer. His character is by no means gloomy. He is at the same time a philosopher and a humorous writer. ' - Remy de Gourmont
The will manifests best as healing ideas. We are NOT prisoners of consciousness. We are the ever observant, unchanging consciousness experiencing body, mind and all exernal phenomena. Consciousness is the fundamental, sub strata of nature/reality, it is the prima materia, the light by whose light all experence is possible. Clearly, our everchanging bodies are different, as are our individual minds in terms of knowledge and intelligebility. It is our unconditionED Consciousnes that remains unaffecTED. This is what unites us. Our Consciousness. Tantrik T.✌🏽❤️😎
You really outdid yourself on the script for this episode! 👏🏽 ✨ Beautifully poetic language and interesting subject matter. As an existentialist, I tend to lean toward absurdism because it’s more fun… but I’m not going to sit here and pretend this didn’t make a good deal of sense lol 🤷🏽♀️ And yes, this was a fun little existential crisis lol. Thank you for sharing 👌🏽
When I did my philosophy undergraduate I mostly took courses on German philosophy. My prof once described Schopenhauer as “one parts Kant, one parts Plato, and one parts disaster”
There’s nothing pessimistic about this. It’s just another model to try and make sense of the Universe. We call it pessimistic because it’s been flavored by the personality of Schopenhauer, who was a just as pessimistic as any other lone guy at the bar who’s pissed because, hey man, life ain’t fair. The honest and dumb truth is that folks like Schopenhauer and Nietzsche were pessimistic because they could never get laid, try as they did. No different to that weird guy or strange girl we all knew at college who would become morbid and drawn as soon as their crush looked at somebody else. Emil Cioran, who did get to be with the ladies, at least had a very valid reason to be pessimistic: he could go days, even weeks, without managing to sleep. I’ve been sleep deprived before, and boy will you become a nihilist after the third night in a row.
Thank you for this, I always try to earnestly explore topics on my own after watching your content; but this has really satisfied an intellectual...craving(?)...I've been unable to identify, and I look forward to delving deeper here!
Fantastic riffing on the bleak! And today we can manipulate the pervasive vitalist fluids to resonate thanks to passing magnets over the body to produce amazingly clear images! MRI technology...
His view just seems like a pessimistic way to say that time exists and things exist so selective pressures on things to keep existing will occur. He made a monster out of time and change. I’ll stick with my boys Parmenides and Plotinus and deny that this reality is base reality thank you very much.
Pretty based Making a monster out of the will seems pretty arbitrary, agreed. Spinoza’s God and Schopenhauer’s will really aren’t much different. Just flavor
This seems like proto chaos magick philosophy. I wonder what influence Schopenhauer had on AOS, especially with Spare's focus on using complete despair as a mode of operating metaphysically, and seeing dogma and materia magicka as distractions to connection with the Will.
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SCHOPENHAUER LETS FUVKING GOOOOOOOO THAT'S WHY HES THE GOAT
Thanks for the amazing video! I did not know about this side of his philosophy.
So was Schopenhauer, at least in part, where the stone tape theory derives from? A sort of residual haunting? 👻
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Would you do a Video on vitriol concept..Journey to the inner earth..
“I see the Thelemites in the back…” I love the tidbits of commentary he sticks in at times. They add flavor and relevance.
I loved that! I also laughed 😆
"you look good in black" he nailed it with that. 😂
“felt cute might delete later"
I read that as he said it. lol
Yes, any discussion of will leads to Crowley.😂
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Even Grampus is afraid.
lol true
"mortification of the flesh is just performance art, salvation is itself a pipe dream" [cute kitten stock photo]
Honestly, props to Dr Sledge for that
Every crib is a coffin
Maybe I'm crazy but that statement was more disturbing with the cute kitten on the screen 😂 the cognitive dissonance is too strong
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Thank you for being Dr. Justin Sledge, and exploring the arcane in history, philosophy, and religion.
the beginning of this video is quite possibly the best tonal summary of schopenhauer i’ve ever heard. you really nailed the whole “hellish despair” aspect of idealism
The fortunate ones being those who have not been born... damn
True!
@@mateomoreno331 truly believe this and I have a child.
I find the concept of the Will quite soothing, not depressing at all. From an agnostic perspective it is a palatable alternative to the chaos of existence without edges, or to any kind of faith.
will need to read up on it more but i kind of feel the same - why not just accept the Will as a driving force?
The demiurge reading Schopenhauer: that's my jam, homes!
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I've never clicked a notification so fast in my life. I remember when Dr. Sledge first teased this video idea over a year ago!!
Love this!
Bonewits said pretty much the same thing in his book Real Magic. He theorized that all magical ability came from natural psychic ability, only augmented through ritual practices, which he described as "stage props". 🙂
thanks for the recommendation, starting reading the first 20 or so pages seems pretty good so far!
Agreed. The accoutrements of magic are merely tools to focus the attention, intent, will and energy of the magician. Also, they provide techniques for mobilizing mind-power.
I think the mind is pluripotent. Whatever one believes it can do, it can do. Faith/trust in the power of the mind is the main driving force towards its efficacy. Greater faith, greater will-power.
@@rosycross3438So is using magic a _’I can turn invisible if I believe I am; but it only works when nobody is watching’_ kind of deal? People matter-of-factly talk about how ‘powerful’ magic is, but from what I can tell nobody ever seems to actually _do_ anything with it.
Der Mensch kann tun was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will.
Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
This man almost lead me to despair, occult truths or not.
The second best rebuttal of Alister Crowley
The first being “Yes do what thou wilt, or if you prefer, don’t” Robert Anton Wilson
@@off6848 Indicating you don't get Thelema at all. "Thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay."
IOW You have to mortify every desire but your "True Will" and you recognize what your true will is by the lack of external resistance to it. Lack of external resistance to your will is the ability to do magic. Crowley is even more desperate than Schopenhauer because the only escape is a miracle of your own design.
I find this absolutely fascinating! I’ve been a shamanic practitioner for about 10 years now, and his philosophical perspective is very close to what I am learning & experiencing with my spirit guides. The one difference, which shifts the entire philosophy into something optimistic, is that we little blips of individuated consciousness/will do have choice and free will. And our choices shape the evolution of The Will over eons. So not only can we strive to grow and mature, but doing so grows and matures the whole of consciousness. No pressure, humanity. 😂
Yep. Is this a verbal expansion on what you’ve gathered? Or am i way off: We can tap into the Great Oneness which tends to lead in a path of growth and we can recognize the “opposing” Great Infinity of “individuals” but those individuals are made up of more individuals. The smallest divisions of the Will act with independence but accumulate into a majority of usual growth. There are more ups and down on smaller scales of the consciousness but we all contribute to a mostly growth path for the Infinitely Divisible Oneness.
Yes, what you said there feels like it aligns with what I have learned from my guides.
I feel bad for you bud. You are living precariously just one stat about parole hearing outcomes vs. time since the judges last meal away from a depressive breakdown. I hope you are able to unhitch the wagon of your sanity from that particular horse before it is too late
You assume the void of a higher will, or guiding will. You presume the human will is sufficient for an objective perspective and it is not. Without an objective perspective outside our universal reality, nothing can exist. As, you have heard, reality is held together by perception. If the individual perceptions of the human individual was sufficient the universe would be a chaos of everyone imposing their wills into the void.
Also a shaman. I have to be because my brain is a five pound quiji board and I can't turn it off. As above, so below. Don't trust everyone you hear. Deceivers walk on every level and some merely want to watch you Stumble.
The projection of a UNIFIED human will, is equivalent to the creative will of the creator. Only if we can be a one mind. We've gotten close a few time. More or less relative to nation states not nations but, we may get there again.
What you're asserting is the magic of the will, the ability to use the individual will to mark upon and make alterations to the limited scope of your own perceptive reality. Your bubble. This is why occultism is often a powerstruggle of wills trying to soak up more reality for their own manipulation and by the binding of wills to their own..
I am the Borefacts, I speak then I sneeze.
@devon9075 you could've easily added on without the condescension.
This is how I feel when I trip. Not a unification with beautiful nature but the sense that we are all just one giant maw consuming itself.
Why do you trip then? It sounds awful. I've been depressed (clinically) since I was 12 or 13. That was over a decade ago. What you describe is just my normal day-to-day. I would recommend dropping the drugs and just being miserable.
@foodchewer It's perception and framing. One giant maw endlessly consuming itself in an endless cosmic cycle means I am insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Therefore I am free to do as I please and need not concern myself with the giant maw. Let alone what Stacy from accounting thinks of my power point presentation.
@@JunkDevJunk No, at the core you are that maw yourself. It is your most primitive drive. The macrocosm is in the microcosm.
Finally someone with a similar experience. I usually have this, too, and it is not awful but feels liberating in the same way that truth liberates. You have to be prepared to stare into the abyss, however. Only once it got a little too much for me when I had read that Lovecraft was inspired by Schopenhauer and started associating Cthulhu with the will, granting metaphysical heavyweight to Lovecraft's fantastical mythology. It was on a grim january afternoon. During the first couple of hours I had already shivered all the time and lay in bed enveloped into my blanket listening to music. When I finally went out and took a walk, it was already getting dark. Where I live, I have to walk past the sewage treatment plant to really get out into the green. Together with the weather and the time of day, that really was a terrible setting. There was the typical industrial background noise, and the fog kept reflecting the floodlights. At that point I started to feel that the very earth I was walking on was itself the body of Cthulhu. There were even some dead birds lying around, which almost made me panic. Later that day when the peak was over and I was having dinner, I felt that I myself was the all-consuming Cthulhu... consuming not only everything outside itself, but itself as well. But that trip was an exception. I usually see more light than darkness.
@@BeFr-vp7ot "As above so below" right?
Maybe I will never get why people feel dread from reflecting on philosophies such as that of Schopenhauer's or Nietzsche's. After reading them, I felt all the more compelled to improve myself and deconstruct all the nonsense that limited my creativity. Desire is unescapable, but desire isn't the root of suffering; completion is. The more you obsess over getting to the end of the race, the more you condemn yourself. Do seek strength (of the integral kind) and built temperance, not aiming to perfection nor to be complete, but better. The Will, the way I see it, is an endless game of endless challenges, a creation that will continue forever. I don't know if that sounds despairing to you, but to me, who's soul is pregnant with creativity, I wouldn't have it any other way. I’ll gladly be a co-creator of this massive work until the end of my days.
Will is the grandfather of the Creator. Jesus was the father inner thot or kek. And God I presume was Moses Jesus was the next ayre of Moses via aliens. Then Will was born again to the Sun. to give God free will again to develop collective consciousness autonomy. Give people guidance again to the true path. Legion is yes and red is no.
Love this!
That’s cool! I hope you find something else to enjoy about life because someday you won’t have the ability to do those things you love so much. There’s got to be something more fundamental than that
Thought-provoking - The World as Will and Representation - it's been a long time 🙂
Just love your voice ❤
8:10 As a musician, I've never expected to see my favorite composer on this channel AND a quote from a philosopher from my country in the same time. Thanks for the surprise.
I find this oddly comforting
Amazing!
We can’t always choose the people who imprint themselves on our souls, but Schopenhauer is indelibly marked on mine. Always love to hear people explore his philosophy
Mr. Sledge your contributions are a treasure and a joy to behold.
I love Spinoza and Schopenhauer
Hello? Based department?
If you haven’t done so already, would you make an episode on Theosophy and its association with occultism?
Thank you for all your work❤
Probably not any time soon, too late.
@@TheEsotericaChannelnae bother, I’ll wait.
One of the saddest losses to history & civilisation is Schopenhauer died a few months before Darwins Origin of Species. He would have been fascinated by Darwinian and challenged by his totalising tendencies to reconcile evolution & Will in Nature.
Nice dip into this genius, the profundity of mesmerism, pessimism, philosophy, and magic as well. Cute puppy and kitty, too. It’s most refreshing to consider that the ultimate of pessimists became something of an optimist in his waning days. Seems the ultimate goal of any attainment is the ability to abandon attachment to that which as attained. I perceive that most are incapable of such abnegations. For a few, however, hope rings eternally as ‘riz said.
Fascinating study. I believe every aspiring philosopher should get their own take on will alone. Set their minds in motion.
Amazing video, thanks! Schopenhauer's pessimism brings laughter and joy to me, for the reason of recognition of one who has seen something true. Time to start looking deeper into his metaphysics. Thanks again for the video!
Excellent once again, Dr. Sledge! Well done!
I haven't read any Schopenhauer, but have wanted to for over 30 years...Joseph Campbell seems to have been a big fan of his, but it seems to me that their overall approaches (though Campbell was no philosopher, despite what some people try to suggest) are radically different, based on what you've said here. Campbell is many things, but a radical pessimist he's not.
I'll have more to say elsewhere...! :)
That's for sure!
Your addendums under the photos made me cough up my water on three occasions before I finally quit attempting to drink at all until the video was over. Trying to keep a straight face with that existential crisis kitten, exactly that type of dark humor keeps me returning. Thanks for the healthy dose of wisdom and sardonic laughter.
Schoupenhaur- goes on and about meaningless will, and the only interpretation of that must be a miserable and pessimistic
Kitten- is fluffy and bouncy, and loves you. And that is enough.
I’ll take the kitten
The positive image is on screen during the summary of Schopenhauer's philosophy is like a reverse ludovico technique.
Please, never stop making this philosophy - occult connections series. I got into your channel through it and, although I'm not super fond of studying esotericism "individually" (because of my religion), I do love to know the religious and occult ideas mingled into philosophical schools.
Interesting. The perception here is a bit different than 6 realms assembling and disassembling the Gods. 😅 Our cycle is moving to dissemble the gods to recreate the Gods. We are tiny particles on a spec of dust left of God. We look up and see what remains of God we need to recreate God through the Heavens to recreate themselves. We are on niflheim looking up towards Hellhiem a perception filter to disguise 🥸 all 6 realms here. On Earth Jesus Christ 🙏. Earth wind and air. I'm just wind and gravitational pulls(warning Xmas give or take a day [spins])😅 I am Free will or Ba:al 😎 Ba'al though is a holy spirit. The Creator is my Grandfather's holy spirit. Though I could possibly get another. 😅 What happens 🤷 I rather not try that let fate decide. More holy than Jesus and God 😅 I'm not a begger and I'm not a (not allowed on this app but 4662,777 gematria numbers) because in different religions is ok. I don't think it's cool. I'm the apex predator of society. Hunt them down. I'm running out of them to find up at the top so I start to investigate my own institutions in my country. Didn't even harm them and got people to hunt them down and destroy their futures. 😅
Shopenhaur is amazing. The thought of fusion with religion and metaphysics is uncanny...I believe it. You can will occurrences, sts, by faith in a suchness. Thanks for podcast
I LOVE the juxtaposition of the adorable orange kitten in a sunny room being on screen as you drive home the utter nihilistic nature of Schopenhauer's metaphysics.
Sigils, rituals and ceremonies being (superfluous) just the training wheels that a mage can grow out of, the ban of magic by Romans as proof of it,... I did not know this side of Schopenhauer, I love it
If you take Schopenhauer's Will at face-value, it can be pessimistic.
But, combine it with Crowley's True Will and Nietzsche's Will-To-Power, you end up with a Metaphysics similar to a Westernized version of The Dao or The Force of Star Wars.
On a level of Physics, Will can be another Fundamental Force; like Electromagnetism, Gravity, etc.
Thanks for complementing my black shirt, btw. 😁
I absolutely love that you included pictures of puppies and kittens to keep us from imploding.
True!
Such well written and thought out content. Truly scholarly. Thank you Dr.
I heard your intro song as hold music to HR at my new gig and it made me smile 😂
Congrats!
I find great interest in this man's style of reporting knowledge. Amazing lectures truly are a form of art. He is an artist for sure. Never before was I interested in learning or listening to the history of Christianity.
Having studied Schopenhauer extensively at university, I’m impressed with your succinct explanation of the central concept of his theory.
Kant as well.
Both brilliant philosopher’s; but very dense, and dry reading!
The introduction chapter to the second edition of WWR is hardly dry, Schop goes hard at the frauds of his day. Too lovely. Also the final third of WWR easily escapes the dry charge. You’re lucky to have found a uni which gives out credits learning Schop’s works. Almost unheard of.
Yay double Yay finally got on patreon for Dr Sledge.
I wonder what he would thought about people like Bohr and Wigner proposing that consciousness is what causes wavefunction collapse and thus, in a way, makes the world exist.
Edit: Philosopher Tim Maudlin has called the tests to solve the measurement problem "empirical metaphysics".
Would have likely been in agreement with them. While I believe these concepts to be true, the ultimate expression of this is found in Alan Watts and Fr Seraphim Rose. “We are an aperture through which the Universe is exploring and experiencing itself.”
@@ZephrumEllison Isn't Seraphim Rose very much not like this? I've read the soul after death and his view on our perception is basically that deception is the norm. At least it seemed like that in this specific work of his.
But to be far, it's not consciousness but "measurement" what makes the wavefunction collapse
@@dashaus1 Absolutely. But Bohr and Wigner really thought it was consciousness.
5:50 - "He would later undergo a process whereby adamantium would be fused to his bones" . . .
. . . Schopenhauer does have gnarly sideburns, but I didn't know that he was THE Wolverine of the Marvel universe.
Conscious efforts, Will power& Focus concentration “Know all the theories, master all the techniques, but as you touch a human soul be just another human soul.”
― C.G. Jung
👏 I go through clairvoyance everyday. It comes and goes. I call it “seeking”. Adding that to “Will” makes perfect sense. I did get into what the Priory is today. I do minor research on the mind Theosophy of Electricity. Great work.
The world as Will and Idea. Leibniz, with his best of all possible worlds, is a truly wicked thing to say. Ah, the crime of being alive. The blind, unassuagable force, constantly sinking its teeth into its own flesh. Arthur was not on the final exam. Proof enough for me. Thank you, I really enjoyed this.
What a great perspective here. Thankyou so much. This is my favorite of your episodes so far.
Mixing Kant and Quatum Mechanics (in particular How observation can have an effect on matter) is one of the most amazing and dangerous rabbit holes to go down.
such a journey this video
Enlightenment is the ultimate truth, when your will aligns with the greater will that embraces all forms, the end of the illusion of duality and the embrace of a greater narrative
Schopenhauer is my kind of guy, he always felt very honest when I read him and relatable (especially for an angsty teen!).
Retain your semen longer to heal the imbalance causing to be angsty
@@DistortedEmpathI believe in a system where bodily fluids contain malice, and therefore should be frequently expelled to maintain spiritual balance
@ i see does this include blood? Do you feel stronger or weaker for it?
@@DistortedEmpaththere’s definitely some folks so tightly wound out there I could see that being detrimental 😂
To each their own 🤷♂️
@@bigultrafunny9751I have a lot of malice that needs to be expelled into...well, you know.
I love your channel. Thank you
The extreme contrast with his, lets be fair here, quite realistic outlook on life, and the cute texts and pictures, made me chuckle.
The Ars Notoria strikes me as an exceptional example of occult sacramentals being a training tool of the will.
The stuff about magic and ghosts reminded me of Final Fantasy XIV haha. It's very strongly implied in that game that all the different schools of magic only work because the rituals and philosophy behind them help you visual whatever you're trying to do. The gods work the same way. If enough people get together and think about the same God, it kind of just pops into existence.
Nothing is real, man.
Nothing is real is a willfully pessimistic way to see it. If thats how our reality works, which evidence points in that direction, then it proves that everything is real because ow we know its not a simulation, we are a part of it and the imaginary being real just expands what exists infinitly. Maybe you didnt mean to sound like a bummer but to know that those crowd concert feelings are an actual aura that you can build is empowering when you think about how if michael jackson just told his concerts to mentally morph him into a levitating jesus really hard and it possibly could work. I assume this is so its just very expensive and finicky when put in real life conditions
its hard to put into words, but the book Book of Wisdom from Zirtana completely changed my life and it's not new age bs
This was my favorite episode so far! 🖤
Congrats on low-key surpassing 750K!!🥳
I don't know why youtube isn't recommending your videos but I sought it out anyway.
Really cool episode! Always loved Schopenhauer, and even if the structure of our understanding is now based on positivist or post/positivist reasonings, I greatly appreciated the perspective on occultism! ❤
Damn-this is an excellent episode. Thanks!
Oh my gosh, that Wolverine reference made me choke on my drink, lol. Every viewer can always count on Dr Sledge for that sly pop culture reference ❤. What an interesting philosopher. As a modern witch, we focus our intent on a magical working , very much in the way he describes the “will”. In some ways, the way he talks about the will seems almost Buddhist to me, but I must admit my knowledge is not great. Wow. To have a conversation with this guy must have been intense.
As a Buddhist, it definitely rings with similarities, at first. The main point of divergence is the nihilistic assertion of there being no way out, since the whole point of Buddhism is to realize the unborn and unending Buddha nature and thus escape Samsara. Rather than saying there's "no good", we'd assert that good and bad lose their meaning when we do not attach to relative attributes. We wouldn't assert you can never know the fundamental truth as that's what the Buddha explains you can discover through meditation and practice. Finally, compassion is critical, and is why and how beings who have this level of realization continue to manifest into the world in forms fit to the need of the rest of us.
Where's the reference in time?
@ about 6 1/2 minutes in, thereabouts, he has that image of the guy staring into space and he has a caption underneath saying something to the effect that he was about to have his bones fused with adamantium. It dawned on me that he has those hair wings that Wolverine has.
@ I did notice the extreme nihilism. It was just when he was saying how everything exists in the will that seemed to reflect Buddhism to an extent. Thank for the clarification and new information!
Aged 18 I was really into Schopenhauer. I remember nicknamed me Arthur. It probably said a lot about me back then I was caught between Schopenhauer and Marx. I do feel that Schopenhauer is a good place to begin philosophy
Wtf AS on Esoterica? This is gonna be good!
Last time i was this early it was shopenminute.
Seriously, i love these discources, this channel is wonderful. Thanks doc!
Wait a shopensecond- I see what you did there. Wiley!
Schopenhauer makes some good points and interesting assessments, but to me, has a religious out look on kinetic energy connections that can seem other worldly. Great show!
Wow! Schopenhauers concept of Ghost is nearly the same as mine, except that I believe ghosts are an electromagnetic (or perhaps quantum) scar on the fabric of space-time; similar to how a bolt of lightning which strikes the sand leaves an imprint in the medium of sand which, while not lightning anymore, can be experienced as a form of lightning's previous existence and violence.
There’s no quantum, they’re in the astral world which impresses itself upon the material from a supra stature giving animus
Like a face impressed upon a coin but giving life and will to that which is dead
Good timing on that puppy. I needed that.
this video literally came in the perfect moment in my life, love you
I actually agree 100% with everything Schopenhauer said in the context of this video. I don't believe in magic or ghosts, but the explanation he provides is something I've always thought would be the only explanation for such things.
The cute dog and cat while talking about the horrors of the Will had me rolling man hahahahahah
would love more of your thoughts on philosophical pessimism, really love this content
O M G, I had no idea this existed, thank you so much.
After ordering the book post haste (Schop wrote a book on what amounts to parapsychology! I am losing my shit!), I watched the video and it was the best video I have seen this year, I am over the frikkin moon right now. It occurs to me that perhaps The Will is a sort of "Quantum Force", more specifically a tendency towards the phenomena of coherence, which as far as we know does not exist, indeed quite the contrary does. As a quantum system interacts with its environs it becomes "less quantum", this is called decoherence. Quantum-ness is comprised of things like superposition (the ability of a system to exist in multiple states simultaneously) and non-locality. If the "more" that the will seeks was more coherence it would be seeking to remain undefined, lost or in a state of unrealized real-ness so to speak. For some years now It has been my opinion that there exists an economy of coherence, that among consciousness(s) coherence is a currency of sorts. I think we can all agree that consciousness is information. Add to this that the only complete model of consciousness is a quantum biophysical one, the OrchOr hypothesis proposed by Penrose and Hameroff in the 90s (from a Bayesian standpoint it is all we have) and a picture emerges of what magic might be and a possible answer to the question of death. As far as "magic" goes, the observer effect demonstrates direct influence upon reality via consciousness, yet everyone assumes this effect is evenly distributed among individuals, which I find to be patently absurd. Meaning some people have or cultivate more powerful perception which in turn influences reality more and so they are described as "magical". Whether they use foci or ritual to enhance the effect of measurement disturbing the system measured (ie, perception) is irrelevant to the process. As for death, if the "soul" as we describe it is defined as quantum information then it must decohere, the information remains but the system is less quantum, less undefined, less potentially changeable or able to "evolve" one might say. At the verge of total decoherence (a horrible fate, to be informationally locked as many might describe an angel, elemental or demon), the only solution is for this information to Change Mediums, because information by definition must exist in a medium, but if that medium becomes "quantumly worn out" and thus we die or rather transmigrate. The universe is more than willing to orchestrate this event within the framework of spacetime in order to keep the accounts balanced, indeed the business of non-human intelligence may be the policing of this system. Of course they would be rewarded for this service with coherence, be allowed to remain themselves that much longer and on it goes. But I digress.
I cannot wait to see how this book influences my comprehensive hypothesis of the paranormal based on quantum biophysics, consciousness and microbiology. My quest to find magic in science began when I ran across a reference to Wilhelm Reichenbach's work with magnets and neurasthenics in Colin Wilson's "The Occult" at age 16 and continues to this day. You have aided me greatly in this endeavor today and have done so more than once and for this I salute you! What is next, are you going to point us to a resource that reveals some details of the Paracelsian ritual for the summoning of elementals that he refused to divulge?
Thank you Justin, another great presentation, as always it’s very much appreciated.
Excellent. Truly interesting, and great English- few to no basic grammatical errors, and no "it literally was" when it really wasn't.
Apart from the fact that you can actually speak- great, great content delivered with a certain style.
Top marks!
Idk who this Will guy is, but I’m glad he’s free
Your welcome 🤗
Being one of the "thelemites in the back", I woukd say that this "universal Will" strongly reminds me of Eliphas Levi's Astral Light.
That's exactly what I was thinking! the Astral Light, the Great Agent, the Anima Mundi... Maybe Levi was influenced by his theories... and thus a whole generation of occultists including Crowley!😯
Levi also talks about it like a "blind machine" behind the generation of the images of the world, which can be manipulated through our will.
I love that I've found your channel! You are an amazing mind and wealth of knowledge.
Also, “Dream Organ”. Another great band name.
One of the best videos on Schopenhauer ever
'Schopenhauer affirms that life is evil, yet he loves it and enjoys it. Let fame come, and he expands with cheer. His character is by no means gloomy. He is at the same time a philosopher and a humorous writer. ' - Remy de Gourmont
Dr Sledge going WILD with the captions on this one…! Even quoting CIORAN the Genius!! 🤩
The will manifests best as healing ideas.
We are NOT prisoners of consciousness.
We are the ever observant, unchanging consciousness experiencing body, mind and all exernal phenomena.
Consciousness is the fundamental, sub strata of nature/reality, it is the prima materia, the light by whose light all experence is possible.
Clearly, our everchanging bodies are different, as are our individual minds in terms of knowledge and intelligebility.
It is our unconditionED Consciousnes that remains unaffecTED.
This is what unites us.
Our Consciousness.
Tantrik T.✌🏽❤️😎
Schopenhauer is definetely one of my favorite philosophers and his theory about ghosts has some interesting probably right idea.
Brilliant presentation, Dr. Sledge. Thank you.
You really outdid yourself on the script for this episode! 👏🏽 ✨ Beautifully poetic language and interesting subject matter. As an existentialist, I tend to lean toward absurdism because it’s more fun… but I’m not going to sit here and pretend this didn’t make a good deal of sense lol 🤷🏽♀️
And yes, this was a fun little existential crisis lol. Thank you for sharing 👌🏽
When I did my philosophy undergraduate I mostly took courses on German philosophy. My prof once described Schopenhauer as “one parts Kant, one parts Plato, and one parts disaster”
I love the stuff you put out. Another gem to dive deeper into 🕳️🐇 who doesn't ponder about metaphysical Will?!😅
There’s nothing pessimistic about this. It’s just another model to try and make sense of the Universe. We call it pessimistic because it’s been flavored by the personality of Schopenhauer, who was a just as pessimistic as any other lone guy at the bar who’s pissed because, hey man, life ain’t fair.
The honest and dumb truth is that folks like Schopenhauer and Nietzsche were pessimistic because they could never get laid, try as they did. No different to that weird guy or strange girl we all knew at college who would become morbid and drawn as soon as their crush looked at somebody else. Emil Cioran, who did get to be with the ladies, at least had a very valid reason to be pessimistic: he could go days, even weeks, without managing to sleep. I’ve been sleep deprived before, and boy will you become a nihilist after the third night in a row.
Total drivel
Love this!
Thank you for this, I always try to earnestly explore topics on my own after watching your content; but this has really satisfied an intellectual...craving(?)...I've been unable to identify, and I look forward to delving deeper here!
I plan on reading The World as Will & Representation as soon as I finish Human, All Too Human. Looking forward to it.
“Compassion is the basis of morality, bub."
Fantastic riffing on the bleak!
And today we can manipulate the pervasive vitalist fluids to resonate thanks to passing magnets over the body to produce amazingly clear images! MRI technology...
I absolutely love this channel!
resonance can be unsettling... Great article!
"They all float down here" You crack me up.
Omg That hairdo! Nice.
His view just seems like a pessimistic way to say that time exists and things exist so selective pressures on things to keep existing will occur. He made a monster out of time and change. I’ll stick with my boys Parmenides and Plotinus and deny that this reality is base reality thank you very much.
Pretty based
Making a monster out of the will seems pretty arbitrary, agreed. Spinoza’s God and Schopenhauer’s will really aren’t much different. Just flavor
Well done Doctor.
I love Schopenhauer.
This seems like proto chaos magick philosophy. I wonder what influence Schopenhauer had on AOS, especially with Spare's focus on using complete despair as a mode of operating metaphysically, and seeing dogma and materia magicka as distractions to connection with the Will.