I actually really disagree with this. I used to run toggle ads a long time ago, how ever going in and out of aiming with toggle ads puts you at a really big disadvantage. While my hand is more relaxed when toggle, simply getting used to hold has given much bigger benefits.
Yeah for games where you switch a lot between ads/no ads there is no other choice than hold. Clicking both mouse buttons at different rates is much more intrusive. You are essentially adding a extra click every time you use ads.
I feel like this would be a very noticeable improvement for slower movement shooters like siege. While with faster paced shooters like titanfall 2, it would work against you, with the Kraber or other guns, where you’re constantly scoping in and out very fast.
@@nova-co3bp yeah but your gonna be holding down angles a lot more and your not gonna want to be moving too much especially when u think someone gonna push u compared to something like apex
@@nova-co3bp no its not. A 'twitch shooter' would be more akin to Doom, unreal tournament or overwatch. The player movement is slow and limited, and its about strategic pushes or defense. His comparison is apt: toggle ads doesnt hurt you as much as it would in a game like cod or titanfall.
@@nova-co3bp Siege is not a twitch shooter friend, but it is about precise aim. You dont need to constantly switch between aiming and hip fire in the game so he has a solid point here
Just as you can learn to aim while holding ADS, you can learn to un-ADS with toggle. Holding ADS feels more responsive, more controllable, but toggling ADS feels more relaxing and more relatable to everyday mouse useage. It'll just take a while for me to get used to toggle ADS after years of holding it. For a fast ADS and un-ADS, hold is better, but for more consistent ADS, toggle is better.
Yeah imo depends on the pace of the game, eg: toggle for a tac shooter like Valorant but hold for something like CoD where you ads and un-ads constantly even while shooting because of the very close range engagements
I think one of the biggest challenges with this is that I’m accustomed to feeling the difference between ADS’ing and not ADS’ing, especially where ADS and slightly slower mouse movement is connected in my brain. It helps me subconsciously connect two drastically different aiming methods with two different “feels” of the mouse.
Exact comment I was looking for, the two are different sensitivity, and my brain can put them in separate "folders" in my mind since they feel different physically as well.
Very true, aiming down sights is almost always slower (some games let you make it equal, like COD) and requires different hand movements versus just looking around normally. You should want extra friction when making miniscule mouse movements when ADS.
@@itstazaur normally if you want to lean and move around a corner, you're pressing two buttons that are right next to each other. With lean flipped then you are pressing the lean on the opposite side that you're moving. Instead of using your middle finger for leaning it lets you use your index and ring fingers to move and lean at the same time. It takes a little while to get used to, but I definitely prefer it.
Alternatively don't swap them and get a mouse with m4 and m5 side buttons, but barring that yes you are right, takes some getting used to for some but absolutely true
1:35 Most shooters have it so that if you start sprinting, you automatically un-ADS your weapon. I usually use that instead of toggling ADS back off. The exceptions are more hardcore shooters like Insurgency or Hell Let Loose that have a "Hold Breath" mechanic that's usually bound to the same button as your Sprint while ADS'ed. Sometimes you can change the keybind, sometimes not, so that takes some getting used to.
Feels exactly the same to me. I tend to focus way more on what I am looking at than what I am not looking at, if anything the toggle makes me more aware of my mouse's existence as I am constantly thinking about clicking the right mouse button as opposed to just releasing it. But if it works for you, then right on
I think it is preference. Toggling ads has the side effect of noticably interrupting the mouse movement when toggling the ads. Also, holding ads can give you an edge, because its disadvantage is an advantage as well. More friction can give you control if needed, also, the middle finger can help you move the mouse more effectively. I don’t think one is better than the other.
When it comes to more control during ADS, this is why I always like to set ADS sensitivity to 0.5x hipfire sensitivity if the game lets me. People always say it ruins muscle memory, but I've done it for so long that I basically have two muscle memory modes: Hipfire and ADS mode.
i've actually kinda found that it's mostly dependant on the game you play. most games slow down your sens a bit while ads'ing, so the less control you have is mitigated by that, at the same time, games that rely around the ads mechanics tend to be snappier and faster than those who don't, not only due to the speed of the game, but also because they have this trend of makung hipfire absolutely useless compared to aiming. this is kinda why games like cod, r6 and bf use holding ads by default, since you need that kind of agility while switching between "neutral" and "aiming, while others like csgo and val use toggle, since their aim mechanics mean that hipfire is the focus, and the increased need for precision makes a significant margin of difference, should you scope in, and also due to the fact that you can't even sprint in those two games.
You can still hold down the ads button with toggle if you want that extra control. I find myself sometimes doing that in games like pubg where I'm taking super far engagements with a sight I shouldnt be.
When aiming down sights you aren't moving the crosshair hardly at all, otherwise you shouldn't have aimed down the sights in the first place. This means that the miniscule amount of friction applied during toggle ADS is very unlikely to cause a malfunction in hand movement. Also, ADS tends to have a slower sensitivity then when not aiming, meaning that a quick turn takes longer to do with toggle ADS if you are already looking down the sights.
ADS sensitivity tends to be lower in most games by default You need to match sensitivities (mostly in fast paced FPSs) for toggle to be more effective for you
I normally use hold down ADS but recently ive been feeling an issue where my aiming feels stiff, this makes sense now with your explanation of the extra force put on the mouse.
It's certainly true that performing multiple actions with one hand becomes increasingly difficult, although I think binding shooting to the space bar would be extreme maybe binding aiming (non-toggle) to shift would make more sense.
From my experience theres 2 things I've noticed. For toggle I've noticed the benefit of being slightly more relaxed. As for hold which I prefer more I've noticed the responsiveness and control of going in and out of ads is vastly better, because you are able to go in and out by just pressing and letting go instead of having to do twice as many actions for the same effect. Training your self to be relaxed when holding ads is also alot easier than speeding up multiple clicking actions. I've experimented with this pretty extensively and came to a conclusion that toggle has short term benefits but in the long run if you learn to just relax hold has a higher skill cap and is much superior in the flexibility and control it gives you during fights. Especially in apex when ads-ing for a second boosts ur hipfire acc for a second or so after leaving ads. Being able to spam in and out of ads on lmgs or ars that dont have amazing hipfire can give you massive advantages in close range fights. And doing that with toggle is extremely hard and uncomfortable, and having to click so much in quick succesion will just do the opposite of the goal u had for it and make you even more tense. The workaround could be to have a dedicated toggle ads button that u would use for mid/long range engagements when u can benefit from being more relaxed. But still having hold for close range fights. Would probably take a decent amount of getting used to and might require autoexec setups to work. Sorry for the wall of text, dont have time to summerize/streamline the comment Edit: theres also the option of binding hold ads to space or shift which was fairly popular in quake back in the day. They would most frequently bind ads to space and jump to right click. Ive experimented with this aswell, while fun, it doesnt work for every game
Yeah, I remember going into toggle-ADS for a while, but gradually pulling back into hold. Toggle may have some physiological advantage, but holding to ADS has a procedural advantage that I just couldn't get past, especially in faster games where even the smallest delays can interfere with movement.
I definitely relate to the control part when holding ADS. For me, the added friction to my mouse seems to help me be more precise with my aim at medium-long range. I've tried toggle in the past for a while but I noticed I would always overshoot when dragging my aim to the target because my mouse would feel so frictionless. I do believe, however, that you could overcome this with practice and getting use to but, honestly, I'm scared that it would take too much time for me to the point I decide it won't even be worth it. On the other hand, I can definitely say that smoothly tracking a target from a distance is almost impossible when holding ADS, at least for me. I always see myself microflicking to my target. Although it has improves my flicking in general, I think that toggling ADS would make smooth tracking way easier. Right now, I mainly play Escape From Tarkov, a relatively slow paced shooter, and I still use hold so do you have any advice for me? Do you think that switching to toggle will be worth it for me?
big agree, hold usually has higher skillcap in a majority of games. there's a reason in r6s people are even swapping from toggle to hold _lean_ , hold is just that much more flexible.
@@piev4166 I've never played tarkov so I can't really be sure. Some games work better with toggle. Games where you hold angles for long periods and games that have slow weapon handling by nature. Imo hold always has a higher skill ceiling regardless of what type of game it is. But in some games it has very minor benefits over toggle. Like val for example. Or a mil-sim like Squad. Those two have extremely minor benefits using hold but toggle is alot less straining when holding angles for extended periods of time. Its honeslty just something you have to experiment with. Dont be afraid to change things up, even if it doesnt work out, itll be a learning experience. Humans improve by making mistakes and learning from them. But u wont know if its a mistake or not unless you try.
it makes sense in games where its easier to expect where enemies are coming from (for example csgo, valorant, rainbow six siege), but i've noticed tunnelvisioning and increased reaction time for lack of a better term is a problem for faster movement/closer combat games (like CoD, apex legends, and even Battlefield). I have a pretty sweaty perspective though and i think if you want games to be something that should be a calm activity for unwinding after a stressful day you should probably stick to toggle ads if you dabble in both categories. EDIT: i doubt many casual players look up whether toggle ads is better or not lol
True, but movement players like me prefer hold ads as u can easily get out of tough situations and i really oftenly forgot to press right click to undo ads just my prefrence.
That's more an argument for preference. In reality, I do think that you can learn to do both. Once you are accustomed to the better one, you will perform better. A good analogy I like to give is, just because a hunched back is more comfortable, doesn't mean it's better for your back. Proper form is always important
It's just preference, your milage may vary as some are more used to the feeling of moving the mouse while holding right click, (especially those who use a different ads sens and are used to the felling of that sens with right click being held likely)
I think it also depends on the game. I used to always use toggle, but when I started maining Seer on Apex I switched to hold. Because his whole character revolves around ADSing constantly, it was just too easy to get stuck down sights while trying to run away or do movement.
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I categorise my keybinds in two ways: Active and Inactive keybinds (Can't think of a better way to name them): - Active keybinds are keybinds which I Actively use alongside other actions, which have to be pressed quickly, or in quick succession, or which are reaction-based, e.g the Left mouse button, mouse wheel, sprint, WASD, ect. - Inactive keybinds generally involve actions such as "Use", "Scoreboard", "Throw grenade", "view map", ect. These are actions which rarely directly aid in a heated battle, and therefore it's not as important to have them bound to "good" locations, e.g I could have "Use" bound to "B" and it would have close to no impact on my game performance, at least in most games. It's different in each game of course, but categorising keybinds like this allows me to essentially bind things according to their importance. What's more, there are of course these "gray areas", such as the Toggle/Hold ADS action. I would still classify it as a "Active" keybind (in most games) regardless, or I'd make a 3rd category if there were more than 2 of these keys (Crouch). I think the downside of toggling ADS is that in the heat of a battle, you have to press things 2x as much, costing you SOME time, it's not a significant amount of time in most cases, but it does technically make you "slower", especially if you have to aim in/out multiple times in quick succession. It's like if you had to double-press W to sprint - if you were suddenly getting shot at from an unknown angle, it would take you minimally more time to get away. This entire topic is all about very small details, such insignificant details that in practice it would likely change close to nothing. Play with what you're comfortable. If you want, you can take guesses as to what would be "objectively best" for a keybind, but ultimately I think it's better have keybinds which you find comfortable above all else. The lack of comfort in itself might result in more harm than good, start in a 100% comfort zone, and gradually see what you can "get used to", and what would just permanently make things "uncomfortable". *Here are my general keybinds:* Grenade: 4 (Or E if possible) Side Mouse Button 1: Gear 1/Ability 1 Side Mouse Button 2: Gear 2/Ability 2 Sprint: Alt/Double-press W Crouch: SHIFT Prone: Capslock (ALT if sprint is set to double-W) (I hate CTRL!!!) Map: C Scoreboard: Tab unless there's a better option (e.g Press For Menu/Hold For Scoreboard like in BF1) Use: F/G (Just depends on the game, e.g in Valorant I'd have F as my "Ultimate Ability", but if there are no other keys it'll be F) Scroll Wheel Up: Weapon 1 Scroll Wheel Down: Weapon 2 Scroll Wheel Press: Melee/Weapon 3 (Depending on game) My alt key for Melee would probably be Q or CTRL, honestly I've yet to find an alternative key that I like besides Wheel Press. I always have ADS set to Hold (The extra friction actually helps me aim with more precision, I wouldn't have it any other way since I already apply pressure on the mouse on distant targets) Sprint is set to Toggle when possible (Same argument Garbaj used, it frees up a finger) Crouch is set to Toggle/Hold (Depends on the game, I rarely crouch in any games so I'd have it set to Toggle, otherwise I'd have it on Hold) My reasoning behind these kinds of binds is 1. Mostly comfort, but also 2. Based on the importance of that key in the specific game. For example, in Battlefield1, being able to go prone quickly is pretty important, so I'd have Prone set to Alt since my Thumb is free 99% of the time. "Secondary Weapon"/"Swap Weapon" is a good alternative for ALT, but it depends a lot... I only like Sprint/Prone for ALT. *Other keybinds people use:* Space set to "Voice chat toggle". Scroll Wheel Down set to "Jump". E set to "Sprint" (Sometimes I set it to this, depends) W/A/S/D set to E/S/D/F (Can even try R/D/F/G) (People do this for extra keys on the left side, I personally like it, but I'd probably never do it myself)
I kind of want to try out toggle ADS, though idk if it would work for me. Thinking about it, it seems awkward, but new keybinds usually are awkward at first.
When holding the right click button, your fine aim literally improves due to friction with a mouse. For sniping and long range, this is the preferred option, isn't it?
It doesn't improve your aim, it just slows it down. Which means you'll be under correcting. If you want to get finer aim, get a bigger mouse pad and lower your DPI.
If thats how you feel you should just lower your ADS sensitivity since it accomplishes the same thing. Whether or not you do it, the added friction will make flicks more difficult.
@@iMini92 Oh yeah, I forgot ADS sensitivity is a setting now too, that is probably even better. But I would recommend most players get used to lower DPIs in general too.
a lot of people do like having some tactile resistance when going for precise shots. Personally, As long as the game reduces mouse sensitivity when scoped in, I don't need the extra friction
This would be great for someone who plays claw on controller. The reason being is that the least amount of tension and stress on the hand you playing claw on, the better. It makes it more comfortable for awkwardly reaching buttons and for movement. Not only that, but the hardest thing about learning claw was pressing the triggers, it wasn't comfortable at all until I used my ring finger to press the trigger. That helped a lot but toggle puts a lot less stress on that. So I recommend it for controller players as well.
I am very confused by this, first off you claw with your right hand while your left ads unless you use southpaw and then how do you claw and not use your ring fingers?
@@Dekmakinson9 Sorry for not being clear. What I was trying to saying was that I use my ring finger to press the triggers because it’s more comfortable. And I claw with my left hand, so maybe it won’t work for everyone but it works for me :>
I primarily use a trackball and have tried both methods. Holding RMB for me vs toggle RMB is definitely better for my configuration. I've tried it with standard mouse set up and it's incredibly hard to get used to. I will give it a go on standard mouse for a while to see how it goes.
Personally, the majority of shooters I play either have no ads or it is on toggle, however I have traditionally used hold, but I haven’t really thought about it until this vid so thanks Also: if you have shorter fingers, I would recommend rebinding sprint to caps lock and crouch to shift - it’s helped me a lot
Capslock is generally such an underused button because it always toggles that state and games can't turn this off. I personally have it reprogrammed to backspace on all my keyboards, way nicer for typing and also much better for using it in games.
My best friend can’t use mouse and keyboard, but on controllers toggle ADS has been an immense improvement to her hand pain. I believe every video game should have toggles for these things, it makes them way more accessible.
I've been a toggle user since I've played videogames for the first time, it has always felt right to me that way. It just feels like there's only disadvantages for hold aim and not advantages, including things like your finger slipping, mouse bugging out and the extra muscle tension.
I’ve seen a couple comments about this on here, but one of the main advantages for hold aiming is reaction time, especially for faster pace shooters. For some people, it takes more thought to toggle it on and off than just pressing and releasing.
Good point! Love it, give me more! more! I'm hold to shoot at the moment, but this video and you made me believe it's better that you press, not hold. I liked holding, so I would simulate of the "holding and aiming weapon down to aim"
@@samplayzyt2729 yes, toggling ADS feels much slower than Holding ADS. It depends on the person really. I have been Holding for ADS for as long as I have played games, so it's been over a decade at least. It's like second nature and I can't change that
Very interesting point! I went the opposite way some time ago (mainly playing pubg). The ability to quickly scope in and out (without having to click twice) while moving around faster when not aiming down sight feels more flexible to me. Hold ads definitely improved my gameplay. But i guess getting used to your own setting it the most important thing :D
I find that the downward pressure sometimes help getting smaller corrections. I even sometimes put my little finger down on the mousepad, at the base of the mouse, to slow it down even further
Toggle feels a lot nicer to me too in most games, it really depends on how long I have to aim for. If I ADS for a while then toggle but if not, hold it down.
Ah, yes. And here we see the wild quick scopers, assuming that quick scoping is a viable option in every game, because to them, every game is Call of Duty reskinned. Be careful how you speak to CoD fanboys, as they might react very aggressively. They have been known to use derogatory terms such as “n****r” and “c**t”, quite often, though the majority of them are quite pasty, and have 0 drops of Alpha in them when confronted face to face.
This actually makes a lot of sense. I've been a lifelong console gamer, so Hold ADS was always a no-question choice, but I finally built a nice PC a few years ago and learned M&K. I still haven't tried toggle, but I have always felt that mouse ADS was uncomfortable and probably the only "worse" aspect of aiming with a mouse due to having to hold RMB, so perhaps I'll give Toggle a shot.
It is sort of like how aim assist slows down your aim when you are aiming relatively near your target. That reduced speed helps you track the opponent and you dont really need the extra aiming speed then.
In my opinion, when it comes to aiming, you can train to use toggle ADS to improve the aim the same way you can train to control hold ADS to compensate for the stiffness when holding. The stuff I like to toggle in the other hand is leaning, since I have them binded to Q and E, so holding actually limits my movements by having a finger occupied holding the lean key. I sometimes have a crouch toggle too, because I use the pinky finger on the ctrl
@@reed6514 I have pretty big hands, so it's not a problem to reach, the problem is that having the hand so open limits the movement of the wasd fingers a bit. I think in Tarkov or R6 I had ctrl for hold and C for toggle
On a slightly different note, on a controller and if possible, I map the fire button to left trigger instead of the default right because it let's my right hand focus on precise aiming while my left hand is focused on timing trigger pulls. This helps especially well when using semiauto weapons against moving targets.
I'd love to run a blind trial on stuff like this. So many factors involved, type of mouse, surface and frictional coefficients from multiple devices/pads, DPI and mouse sampling, etcetera... This reasoning is very cogent, but I'm not convinced. Your aim could be improving just from playing more and subconsciously thinking about this "trial" you're running. Even by your logic, if your brain is needing to focus on it more [remember you're not thinking about your challenge the same way literally no one thinks 'the mouse drag is worse' when they have the right click button depressed] "worrying about it" (even in the background) then clearly it's effecting something. Blind randomization might be able to sus out the immense bias, but I wouldn't be shocked if the result shows things like when and what we last ate has a stronger correlation to good mouse aiming.
Interesting take. As a controller main I doubt toggle would give me any benefits besides a slight reduce in muscle fatigue, but I will definitely try this next time I use KBM. I definitely feel my hand tense up when shooting in games like Valorant (probably due to several factors like being new to kbm and being used to squeezing the controller triggers) and this might be a great solution to that
@@chief7573 Yeah I’m not saying your wrong, I agree with you. I just wish all kbm users shared the same opinion. I hear complaints about aim assist all the time and it’s super annoying
There were a couple shooters I played (can honestly not remember what they are) where if you click the RMB, its toggle, and when you hold RMB its… well hold. So you can do both whenever, which is really good if you go from using a SMG where you constantly hold and dont, to use a sniper where you can just click RMB and sit there for a minute scoped in without straining your middle finger
My first "introduction" to toggle ADS was ARMA 3, where that is the default and very logical since it's a slower pace game. After a brief adjustment period I have switched almost all my games to toggle ADS.
the reason for toggle ads isnt even cause of it being a slow paced game its cause the view zoom in is bound to holding right click down meanwhile ads is bound to just a single click
@@GimOA well, anyone who has ever played ARMA 3 will understand that you can never have enough fingers (or keys on your keyboard) for all of the shortcuts. So any help is welcome.
Wait, it's default? I've never noticed that. Maybe I changed it but as far as I remember I always held RMB for aiming... (Or maybe I held and then tapped to exit? who knows)
I've always been a hold to ADS man, and at this point it's practically integrated into my aiming style. I also have to ask how hard you are pressing down on your mouse that holding right click increases the friction, I tried it out and there's no difference for me in terms of how I move my mouse. At the end of the day, I'm going to continue using hold to ADS, mostly because I've been doing it for my entire gaming career, and it works for me.
It’s physically impossible to press a button on a mouse without changing the underlying pressure and therefore resistance to movement on the pad in at least some way, because there is a threshold of resistance within the switch as “actuation force”, which necessarily has to pass through the body of the shell to the pad until it meets suffice resistance, as dictated by laws of physics. It may be that you do not notice it or it does not negatively affect your experience, but it is there all the same. If “no effect on aim” for in game actions is “absolutely paramount without compromise”, then it’s optimal move all actions off the mouse buttons. But there is also convenience and familiarity to factor it along with the frequency of such actions for any game’s requirement, which is why neither setup is objectively superior in the full picture, especially since toggle aim has games approaching the return states in different ways (such as some allowing sprint out of ADS, others not etc)
@@TheN00bPolice Really depends on the mousepad, softer cloth pads will have lots of speed variance depending on speed, but harder pads can have barely any at all. This guy probably uses a harder style pad.
@@TheN00bPolice he says no difference for him, the difference is probably there but too subtle for a human to notice it. It's like removing 5g from the mouse, it will be lighter and had less friction but most people won't feel the difference
I think it's more a preference thing. When using ADS I tend to need extra tension in my hand anyways. Not only that, but I do like having freedom in choosing whether I can move at a regular speed or aim with precision, and having to click every time to switch between the two as opposed to just releasing the button is a lot more comfortable to me.
You make a good point, but there are also advantages to holding right click. 1. It's more natural. If you make a non gamer use the mouse for the first time, they will almost always prefer hold ads 2. For a fast paced game like apex where using ADS slows you down, you have to press the right click again to move faster which is a disadvantage One solution would be to rebind your ADS to a keyboard key, but then you sacrifice movement. So, I think the best solution would be to use hold ADS with a foot pedal because you don't sacrifice movement or aim. This is probably one reason why cars dont make you use your hands for everything.
I say bind it to a side button if your mouse has one. Though I really prever toggle and I don't see it as a real downside if you are used to it and can anticipate getting out of aim But really apex kill times are so long that the tenth or even hundredth of a second you may lose clicking to get out of aim is never relevant
I use both. Hold for close quarters combat and other brief and rapid encounters so I can switch between hip-fire and ads quickly and efficiently; however I use Toggle for long distance shooting with sustained fire that I know I wont have to break out of scoping/ads frequently; that way I maintain precision and keep my hand relaxed.
@@Yea___ I'm talking about when a game lets you have both; many games let's you have both a hold and a toggle bind either to the same or other input. In different games I play I can use both and, for example, I use Right mouse for hold and wheel up for toggle.
I can't agree with this. Coming from CS, I used toggle on nearly every game with the option. However, I've been playing on hold at a high level in games like Valorant and Apex Legends and the key factor that made me switch over is how hold allows you to transition between aimed or not as fast as possible. This is very important because these micro-decisions are what win you fights in apex and valorant; there's much more to it than simply aim, which can be trained and you get used to the extra tension from holding the mouse button down. Being ADS'd affects things like your movement speed which will at a higher level be significantly more important to have control over than your aim which won't really struggle that much with holding down the extra button. Those microseconds matter. edit: I'd like to add that in games where you're ADS'd for extended periods of time like in R6 or Tarkov toggle makes a lot more sense; but in fast paced shooters hold is the way to go. Movement is king.
I've always used mouse2 as my jump button in fps games, so space is my ADS. So I can use hold ADS with these benefits mouse2 to jump also lets you be very precise with your inputs, it's useful in quake for general movement and rocket jumps
This isn't entirely true and i'll explain why. If you're using toggle sights you're far more likely to lose fights due to the reaction to click timing, which is longer vs reaction to release(Sounds strange but it's true.) This means you're more prone to be zoomed in and not being able to react fast enough to zoom out once you hit a range where it's doing more damage than good. While pressure can affect your aim you really shouldn't apply more force on the switches than they need, otherwise you're at severe risk of damaging your hand and wrist by playing video games. At that point i really suggest running aim trainers and focusing entirely on being relaxed in your fingers and wrist. The difference between casual, pro and top tier aimers are basically how relaxed and aware they are of how their mouse hand feels. Being relaxed won't only save your health, it will make you hit more consistently.
Same principle of control and maintained relaxation is required with a real weapon after all. If you "click" the trigger too strongly you will deviate your aim and miss your shot. If combatants can learn to squeeze nicely during firefights, gamers should manage during PvP.
Once you have experience with toggle, there's barely any difference. Toggle lets me track and 1 clip people easier, which is much more important than a tiny reaction time benefit in some very specific scenarios
Solution: Everyone has their prefferences, and game devs should just start adding dynamic ADS mode: tap the aim button and the game will wait for another press, or hold it and the game will stop aiming once you stop holding the control.
It really depends on the game. Sometimes you need to quickly switch from ads to non-ads quickly to increase your movement speed, for example in valorant with the bulldog or in apex with the mastiff
@@MsDestroyer900 you can see what I mean with this video ua-cam.com/video/b1WBF0F23rI/v-deo.html I don't know if it's been patched but when I used to play a lot it was pretty OP
I switched to hold ads about a year ago because of valorant. The OP has a second zoom so with toggle zoom it takes 2 clicks to unzoom (unless you pull of a knife, but that is still 2 button presses to get back to your primary unzooomed). Where as if you use hold zoom you can instantly unzoom. This may seem insignificant but it feels so much snappier to play.
Been playing quite a lot of games like Escape from Tarkov, where it’s defaulted to toggle-aim but I’ve never really had much thought. I might look into doing this more often!
However if you want to switch quickly between hip fire and ads I think it would be harder with toggle like to do both rapidly during a fight at close range for example as there is more to press with toggle
It doesn't ever really work like that in reality Games that focus on scoped guns let you stay scoped a lot. And for classic style shooters like CS you usually unscope with the mousewheel anyway
@@puppieslovies let me tell you why that was not only arrogant, small & narrow minded and stupid but also why you are wrong. 1: some people simply don't have the money for, a tower, a high refresh rate monitor, a mouse and keyboard, a mouse pad, a desk, a decently comfortable chair. meanwhile if you have a tv, all you need is a console for a small fraction of the price They might have other priorities - Bills - Kids - Business saving plans 2: some people want to sit comfortably on their sofa with their hands relaxed, after a long hard day of work, or looking after the kids or going the gym. 3: some people simply don't have the space, maybe they live in a small apartment, a shared room, or they move a lot and it's simply not viable to take a whole PC set up since the next place you go might not have a desk or somewhere comfortable. 4: some people like to come home and play together with their wives girlfriends or best friend sitting side-by-side on a two seater sofa passing the controller back and forth every few games talking about each other's gameplay and spending quality time while also filling that ''me'' time at the same time. I mean someone like you wouldn't know about that kind of thing. 5: some people grew up with a controller in their hand, Think of call of duty for example all of those montages of trick shots we're all on consoles and even to today's standards are respected in the PC community for their skill 6: some people can progress much easier than others, someone might only have three hours a week while someone else has 35 hours a week, and yet the guy with three hours could be better even though the guy with 35 plays a lot more, that's a fact not an opinion. 7: some people hit progression walls you play a few hundred hours of your favourite game and then to actually progress and get any better you need to do aiming training, meanwhile others just infinitely get slightly better every day, that person could be a controller player while the other person could be a mouse and keyboard player and vice versa. 8: there are close range and hip fire benefits to playing on controller in a lot of games due to the nature of it, you hear pro players complain about this fairly often. 9: there are quite a few pro controller players who absolutely smash and annihilate PC players, especially in Apex, do your research and you'll see for yourself. 10: some people don't want the hassle of a PC, viruses, upgrades, needing to sit in a chair, needing to have your arms fairly elevated, slow pc's, meanwhile with a controller you can relax your arms in any way you want you can kick your legs up and lean back in any way you want. Not to mention that if you bought a PS4 when it came out up until last year that was the best console you could get and therefore had no reason to upgrade since it literally has given you no problems for six or seven years, the bare minimum of clean it every 2 years and buy a spinning disc drive of 5 terabytes once for cheap as fuck. 11: you can take a console to a friends house and provide fun for everyone there, with a PC that is not only awkward but hard to transport, a console will fit in a normal backpack with all the wires and a few controllers and a headset, while not being all that heavy. You know, socialising in person? Crack a beer or have a meal in between? 12: some people just generally prefer the feeling of a controller it's a different way to interact with the game, it's a different experience something that a lot of people generally genuinely might enjoy more than using a mouse and keyboard hunched over a monitor severely overpriced at that for a decent size and refresh rate. 13: this is a minor one but in game chat sucks and for a lot of slow PCs having open Google Chrome can eat a lot of power, meanwhile PlayStation and Xbox have party chats which are extremely easy and reliable. And I know the only thing you're going to have to say about all of this is PC Master race, but I get more frames, but I'm rich or my dad paid for my PC and I live in a first world country or I'm a lot more above working class then I realise. I can't believe you took the time to write this oh my God, but the fact of the matter is you just got absolutely destroyed and you should probably take some time to re-evaluate the way you think of things and have a little bit more compassion and understanding and widen your mind two possibilities before you make yourself look a fool. I'm not saying PC isn't more powerful, but at the end of the day if the game exists on console and PC 95% of the time it will run just as smoothly and be just as fun. The true benefits of PC is games like MMORPGs. I like PC and I like console, there are games specifically on PC that cannot be played on console but to say that you don't take yourself seriously as a console player is just genuinely so unfair and disrespectful to those more unfortunate or their preferences.
Yeah some people even go for such extremes as rebinding fire key to keyboard, so that when you're shooting at someone you don't have to press any buttons on your mouse, which makes it harder to track people
If your mouse switches are so stiff that pressing them noticeably affects your aim, you should swap them out with more sensitive ones (otherwise holding LMB will also continue to affect your aim)
counterpoint: my high sensitivity setting synergises with this added mouse friction. kinda like a real world lower ADS sensitivity setting fr tho, foot pedals would probably be best, but also some kind of dual option would be cool. like right click to hold and maybe mouse4/5 (side buttons) to toggle
@@tuxido4913 they exist for racing games. probably super easy to set up though might need 3rd party middleware to translate controller input to keyboard (assuming the game doesnt let you mix and match controller and keyboard)
extra friction is desirable when aiming. It gives more resistance, therefore allows finer movements. Our hands are good at putting out force, but when the we need to change that force just slightly, it'll fail to do that. With more friction, you are able to put more force for less movement, which is exactly what you need while ADSing
More importantly, your established muscle memory is used to that force being applied and builds brain pathways to actively make the actions more refined. Plus, none of this matters because you should be aiming with your elbow anyways.
@@hauptmanngilbertoduber9953 as someone who plays on extremely low sens (to do a 360 it takes me from beginning to the end of my mousepad, which is 1 meter long), Ibcan twll you that's not the case
@@SilaDrenja Sure but in the end its preference. I always found myself playing good in games where I don't have to hold to aim in. Using 400 dpi and 1.3 sens in csgo. Guess the weight of the mouse is relevant too.
I’ve played on V as my shooting keybind for about a year because of these same reasons. I’m glad to see that someone can explain my thoughts behind my change better than I can so that I don’t sound like an idiot
Right click jumping was used a lot back in the early arena fps days because of rocket jumps and such. I never got used to it, though. Might be worth trying if you're super competitive.
@@hektirebagins3863 You know most people rebind keys before they start playing. I have never liked or used ADS on right click as I found aiming clunky. I actually use right clicking for reload and or E depending on the game
yeah also this toggle ads can be really good with this mouse grip i have to try it ua-cam.com/video/WllCibCnTeg/v-deo.html this advance mouse grip from kovakk is really applicable to this
for hold u can use the AND gate. Hold the ads button make the input go from 0 to 1 (as long as u hold) just add this with wutever input add a value 1 then the output is 1. For toggle u can use set/ reset gate ... look kinda longer than the AND gate so the current flow abit slower... this is my theory, its not "better" to that considerable
Also changed to toggle, it is beneficial if you need to hold your aim for longer for example if you trap view a door. ofc for quick scoping a hold is usually better, but in most games a sprint or shot (bolt rifles) will disengage the toggle anyway so you can use toggle just as well.
God this really does explain it. There is this one very old FPS game that I used to play, and the aim down sights was the letter C. Now i understand why it felt so much easier and smoother to track and hit people in it
I used to be toggle but switched to hold many years ago. Hold just feels more responsive and I feel more focused while doing it, like I'm actively doing something for this specific purpose and therefore more focused on it.
garbaj, i looked at the title (actively knowing for a few days that i should switch but not wanting to because it feels awkward) and instantly switched. and let me just say; i have literally never played more consistent in my life than i did the last 2 hours or so
Hold ADS and toggle ads on controller does make a difference. I use toggle ads because it frees up the left trigger to be used for things like grenades or other equipment. If you use hold ads on controller it needs to be a trigger or bumper button because otherwise you can't aim and use ads at the same time. But if you use toggle ads then you can actually map it to pressing down one of the joysticks which works very well in classic games like Halo and still works amazingly today also in Halo and other games
Funny enough There was a time on ps4 siege where I aimed with triangle and shot with L1. I changed it due to me losing psplus and never really got back into the habit
Helped me notice that I don't press right mouse down in shooters, but rather pinch the mouse itself between my middle and ring finger to register the click. Probably due to shape of the mouse I've grown used to but thanks.
I enjoy the extra strain.. It's almost like you're actually trying to use a gun or something. I tend to enjoy games as simulators though so I like the idea of holding a button to hold up my gun. Different folks, different strokes.
I had the same feeling at first with the downward force on the mouse. But instead of changing to toggle, i changed the ADS key to the side key on the mouse
Imo, it actually depends on your mouse device holding type. There are mainly to kinds of it: completely laying your hand on a mouse (usually a big one) and moving it with a hand+arm, another one, that I use, is holding your mouse (usually a small or light one) with only 3 fingers (thumb + ring + pinky) and moving it with only a hand. First one holding type already creates quiet a lot of friction, and usually ppl use very high sensitivity with it, barely picking up mouse for repositioning it on a mouse pad - here you can use w/e ADS you want, holding right button won't change friction that much. Now the other holding type is about having medium-high sensitivity and constantly picking up mouse with 3 fingers and repositing it to some default place on a mouse pad - here hold ADS is a big NO, b/c sudden increase in friction will mess up with your aiming - you can't really control how much force you apply to the right button in tense situations, so variable friction will lead to variable sensitivity when aiming. Also holding any button prevents from picking up and repositioning mouse.
Also, when you press two mouse buttons at the same time, more muscles are tensioned in your hand, so its more stiff and hard to move.
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@@yuyah7413
Nah, it's indeed slightly harder to move.
@@yuyah7413 where did that come from
I thought it was only me who had that problem
I dont move my hand to aim I move my elbow lol
Garbaj: "The SCIENTIFIC Reason..."
Also Garbaj: "I just feel like it's easier."
yeah it's super clickbait lol. not even a great take either.
Lol yeah. I think i agree with him, but i don't think any of this is particularly scientific.
@@reed6514 a hypothesis is the beginning to all science
@@MultiKokonutz tru. I suppose "hypothesis for ADS ..." wouldn't have been as catchy of a title
you put 2 Fingers Extra with Force Holding down - it Will Make it Slower even if its 1% - so no its not Clickbait.
I actually really disagree with this. I used to run toggle ads a long time ago, how ever going in and out of aiming with toggle ads puts you at a really big disadvantage. While my hand is more relaxed when toggle, simply getting used to hold has given much bigger benefits.
yeah also in valorant the hold is only option imo because you can cancel animation much faster
i can't say the same as someone who has a lot of experience with both. I've found toggle to be more consistent for myself. It's a preference imo
Feel the same !
Yeah for games where you switch a lot between ads/no ads there is no other choice than hold. Clicking both mouse buttons at different rates is much more intrusive. You are essentially adding a extra click every time you use ads.
Agreed for arena shooters. Disagreed for tactical/realistic shooters
I feel like this would be a very noticeable improvement for slower movement shooters like siege. While with faster paced shooters like titanfall 2, it would work against you, with the Kraber or other guns, where you’re constantly scoping in and out very fast.
Siege is not really slow when you think about aim, its a twitch shooter so youre constantly moving the mouse
@@nova-co3bp yeah but your gonna be holding down angles a lot more and your not gonna want to be moving too much especially when u think someone gonna push u compared to something like apex
@@nova-co3bp Hell Let Loose is a much better example
@@nova-co3bp no its not. A 'twitch shooter' would be more akin to Doom, unreal tournament or overwatch. The player movement is slow and limited, and its about strategic pushes or defense. His comparison is apt: toggle ads doesnt hurt you as much as it would in a game like cod or titanfall.
@@nova-co3bp Siege is not a twitch shooter friend, but it is about precise aim. You dont need to constantly switch between aiming and hip fire in the game so he has a solid point here
Just as you can learn to aim while holding ADS, you can learn to un-ADS with toggle. Holding ADS feels more responsive, more controllable, but toggling ADS feels more relaxing and more relatable to everyday mouse useage. It'll just take a while for me to get used to toggle ADS after years of holding it.
For a fast ADS and un-ADS, hold is better, but for more consistent ADS, toggle is better.
Yeah imo depends on the pace of the game, eg: toggle for a tac shooter like Valorant but hold for something like CoD where you ads and un-ads constantly even while shooting because of the very close range engagements
I probably need to switch it because my mouse aims out when I use both mb
@@flyingbaguettefpv The issue comes when you switch games, as it's very difficult to get used to both methods.
yeah hold ads definitely feel faster so i think put hold add on the keyboard is fine for me
@@nomic655 nah just get better
I think one of the biggest challenges with this is that I’m accustomed to feeling the difference between ADS’ing and not ADS’ing, especially where ADS and slightly slower mouse movement is connected in my brain. It helps me subconsciously connect two drastically different aiming methods with two different “feels” of the mouse.
Exact comment I was looking for, the two are different sensitivity, and my brain can put them in separate "folders" in my mind since they feel different physically as well.
Very true, aiming down sights is almost always slower (some games let you make it equal, like COD) and requires different hand movements versus just looking around normally. You should want extra friction when making miniscule mouse movements when ADS.
Another FPS tip: if a game has leaning, swap the lean keys so they're reversed. Much easier to peek corners when your lean keys are reversed
Wtf how?
@@itstazaur normally if you want to lean and move around a corner, you're pressing two buttons that are right next to each other. With lean flipped then you are pressing the lean on the opposite side that you're moving. Instead of using your middle finger for leaning it lets you use your index and ring fingers to move and lean at the same time. It takes a little while to get used to, but I definitely prefer it.
Alternatively don't swap them and get a mouse with m4 and m5 side buttons, but barring that yes you are right, takes some getting used to for some but absolutely true
But my brain cant process clicking button on the left to lean right :(
I use alt/control for lean, feels very natural
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Most shooters have it so that if you start sprinting, you automatically un-ADS your weapon. I usually use that instead of toggling ADS back off. The exceptions are more hardcore shooters like Insurgency or Hell Let Loose that have a "Hold Breath" mechanic that's usually bound to the same button as your Sprint while ADS'ed. Sometimes you can change the keybind, sometimes not, so that takes some getting used to.
I love when I can rely on this in a game and get sad when I can't.
Feels exactly the same to me. I tend to focus way more on what I am looking at than what I am not looking at, if anything the toggle makes me more aware of my mouse's existence as I am constantly thinking about clicking the right mouse button as opposed to just releasing it.
But if it works for you, then right on
this mouse grip can make the difference i think ua-cam.com/video/WllCibCnTeg/v-deo.html
I agree
yea I can't focus on 2 stuff at once.
I think it is preference. Toggling ads has the side effect of noticably interrupting the mouse movement when toggling the ads. Also, holding ads can give you an edge, because its disadvantage is an advantage as well. More friction can give you control if needed, also, the middle finger can help you move the mouse more effectively. I don’t think one is better than the other.
When it comes to more control during ADS, this is why I always like to set ADS sensitivity to 0.5x hipfire sensitivity if the game lets me. People always say it ruins muscle memory, but I've done it for so long that I basically have two muscle memory modes: Hipfire and ADS mode.
i've actually kinda found that it's mostly dependant on the game you play.
most games slow down your sens a bit while ads'ing, so the less control you have is mitigated by that, at the same time, games that rely around the ads mechanics tend to be snappier and faster than those who don't, not only due to the speed of the game, but also because they have this trend of makung hipfire absolutely useless compared to aiming.
this is kinda why games like cod, r6 and bf use holding ads by default, since you need that kind of agility while switching between "neutral" and "aiming, while others like csgo and val use toggle, since their aim mechanics mean that hipfire is the focus, and the increased need for precision makes a significant margin of difference, should you scope in, and also due to the fact that you can't even sprint in those two games.
You can still hold down the ads button with toggle if you want that extra control. I find myself sometimes doing that in games like pubg where I'm taking super far engagements with a sight I shouldnt be.
When aiming down sights you aren't moving the crosshair hardly at all, otherwise you shouldn't have aimed down the sights in the first place. This means that the miniscule amount of friction applied during toggle ADS is very unlikely to cause a malfunction in hand movement. Also, ADS tends to have a slower sensitivity then when not aiming, meaning that a quick turn takes longer to do with toggle ADS if you are already looking down the sights.
ADS sensitivity tends to be lower in most games by default
You need to match sensitivities (mostly in fast paced FPSs) for toggle to be more effective for you
I hear you, but I value the reaction speed of hold ADS. I may try it out, but I’m not convinced it’s the best choice for everyone.
I normally use hold down ADS but recently ive been feeling an issue where my aiming feels stiff, this makes sense now with your explanation of the extra force put on the mouse.
It's certainly true that performing multiple actions with one hand becomes increasingly difficult, although I think binding shooting to the space bar would be extreme maybe binding aiming (non-toggle) to shift would make more sense.
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Yeah but where's sprint gonna go?
@@Nate-bd8fg wherever you want. you don't have to go with convention
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Agreed. It was too much for me. Spacebar for jumping just feels right
From my experience theres 2 things I've noticed.
For toggle I've noticed the benefit of being slightly more relaxed. As for hold which I prefer more I've noticed the responsiveness and control of going in and out of ads is vastly better, because you are able to go in and out by just pressing and letting go instead of having to do twice as many actions for the same effect. Training your self to be relaxed when holding ads is also alot easier than speeding up multiple clicking actions.
I've experimented with this pretty extensively and came to a conclusion that toggle has short term benefits but in the long run if you learn to just relax hold has a higher skill cap and is much superior in the flexibility and control it gives you during fights.
Especially in apex when ads-ing for a second boosts ur hipfire acc for a second or so after leaving ads. Being able to spam in and out of ads on lmgs or ars that dont have amazing hipfire can give you massive advantages in close range fights. And doing that with toggle is extremely hard and uncomfortable, and having to click so much in quick succesion will just do the opposite of the goal u had for it and make you even more tense. The workaround could be to have a dedicated toggle ads button that u would use for mid/long range engagements when u can benefit from being more relaxed. But still having hold for close range fights. Would probably take a decent amount of getting used to and might require autoexec setups to work.
Sorry for the wall of text, dont have time to summerize/streamline the comment
Edit: theres also the option of binding hold ads to space or shift which was fairly popular in quake back in the day. They would most frequently bind ads to space and jump to right click. Ive experimented with this aswell, while fun, it doesnt work for every game
Yeah, I remember going into toggle-ADS for a while, but gradually pulling back into hold. Toggle may have some physiological advantage, but holding to ADS has a procedural advantage that I just couldn't get past, especially in faster games where even the smallest delays can interfere with movement.
I definitely relate to the control part when holding ADS. For me, the added friction to my mouse seems to help me be more precise with my aim at medium-long range. I've tried toggle in the past for a while but I noticed I would always overshoot when dragging my aim to the target because my mouse would feel so frictionless. I do believe, however, that you could overcome this with practice and getting use to but, honestly, I'm scared that it would take too much time for me to the point I decide it won't even be worth it.
On the other hand, I can definitely say that smoothly tracking a target from a distance is almost impossible when holding ADS, at least for me. I always see myself microflicking to my target. Although it has improves my flicking in general, I think that toggling ADS would make smooth tracking way easier.
Right now, I mainly play Escape From Tarkov, a relatively slow paced shooter, and I still use hold so do you have any advice for me? Do you think that switching to toggle will be worth it for me?
big agree, hold usually has higher skillcap in a majority of games. there's a reason in r6s people are even swapping from toggle to hold _lean_ , hold is just that much more flexible.
@@piev4166 I've never played tarkov so I can't really be sure. Some games work better with toggle. Games where you hold angles for long periods and games that have slow weapon handling by nature. Imo hold always has a higher skill ceiling regardless of what type of game it is. But in some games it has very minor benefits over toggle. Like val for example. Or a mil-sim like Squad. Those two have extremely minor benefits using hold but toggle is alot less straining when holding angles for extended periods of time. Its honeslty just something you have to experiment with. Dont be afraid to change things up, even if it doesnt work out, itll be a learning experience. Humans improve by making mistakes and learning from them. But u wont know if its a mistake or not unless you try.
it makes sense in games where its easier to expect where enemies are coming from (for example csgo, valorant, rainbow six siege), but i've noticed tunnelvisioning and increased reaction time for lack of a better term is a problem for faster movement/closer combat games (like CoD, apex legends, and even Battlefield). I have a pretty sweaty perspective though and i think if you want games to be something that should be a calm activity for unwinding after a stressful day you should probably stick to toggle ads if you dabble in both categories.
EDIT: i doubt many casual players look up whether toggle ads is better or not lol
I like that this time the title says much more about what to expect from the video than usually.
CSGO players: You guys can zoom?
you guys have to hold?
True, but movement players like me prefer hold ads as u can easily get out of tough situations and i really oftenly forgot to press right click to undo ads just my prefrence.
That's more an argument for preference. In reality, I do think that you can learn to do both. Once you are accustomed to the better one, you will perform better.
A good analogy I like to give is, just because a hunched back is more comfortable, doesn't mean it's better for your back. Proper form is always important
@@KyokoUltimate true 👍
It's just preference, your milage may vary as some are more used to the feeling of moving the mouse while holding right click, (especially those who use a different ads sens and are used to the felling of that sens with right click being held likely)
I think it also depends on the game. I used to always use toggle, but when I started maining Seer on Apex I switched to hold. Because his whole character revolves around ADSing constantly, it was just too easy to get stuck down sights while trying to run away or do movement.
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I categorise my keybinds in two ways: Active and Inactive keybinds (Can't think of a better way to name them):
- Active keybinds are keybinds which I Actively use alongside other actions, which have to be pressed quickly, or in quick succession, or which are reaction-based, e.g the Left mouse button, mouse wheel, sprint, WASD, ect.
- Inactive keybinds generally involve actions such as "Use", "Scoreboard", "Throw grenade", "view map", ect. These are actions which rarely directly aid in a heated battle, and therefore it's not as important to have them bound to "good" locations, e.g I could have "Use" bound to "B" and it would have close to no impact on my game performance, at least in most games.
It's different in each game of course, but categorising keybinds like this allows me to essentially bind things according to their importance. What's more, there are of course these "gray areas", such as the Toggle/Hold ADS action. I would still classify it as a "Active" keybind (in most games) regardless, or I'd make a 3rd category if there were more than 2 of these keys (Crouch).
I think the downside of toggling ADS is that in the heat of a battle, you have to press things 2x as much, costing you SOME time, it's not a significant amount of time in most cases, but it does technically make you "slower", especially if you have to aim in/out multiple times in quick succession. It's like if you had to double-press W to sprint - if you were suddenly getting shot at from an unknown angle, it would take you minimally more time to get away.
This entire topic is all about very small details, such insignificant details that in practice it would likely change close to nothing. Play with what you're comfortable.
If you want, you can take guesses as to what would be "objectively best" for a keybind, but ultimately I think it's better have keybinds which you find comfortable above all else. The lack of comfort in itself might result in more harm than good, start in a 100% comfort zone, and gradually see what you can "get used to", and what would just permanently make things "uncomfortable".
*Here are my general keybinds:*
Grenade: 4 (Or E if possible)
Side Mouse Button 1: Gear 1/Ability 1
Side Mouse Button 2: Gear 2/Ability 2
Sprint: Alt/Double-press W
Crouch: SHIFT
Prone: Capslock (ALT if sprint is set to double-W) (I hate CTRL!!!)
Map: C
Scoreboard: Tab unless there's a better option (e.g Press For Menu/Hold For Scoreboard like in BF1)
Use: F/G (Just depends on the game, e.g in Valorant I'd have F as my "Ultimate Ability", but if there are no other keys it'll be F)
Scroll Wheel Up: Weapon 1
Scroll Wheel Down: Weapon 2
Scroll Wheel Press: Melee/Weapon 3 (Depending on game)
My alt key for Melee would probably be Q or CTRL, honestly I've yet to find an alternative key that I like besides Wheel Press.
I always have ADS set to Hold (The extra friction actually helps me aim with more precision, I wouldn't have it any other way since I already apply pressure on the mouse on distant targets)
Sprint is set to Toggle when possible (Same argument Garbaj used, it frees up a finger)
Crouch is set to Toggle/Hold (Depends on the game, I rarely crouch in any games so I'd have it set to Toggle, otherwise I'd have it on Hold)
My reasoning behind these kinds of binds is 1. Mostly comfort, but also 2. Based on the importance of that key in the specific game. For example, in Battlefield1, being able to go prone quickly is pretty important, so I'd have Prone set to Alt since my Thumb is free 99% of the time. "Secondary Weapon"/"Swap Weapon" is a good alternative for ALT, but it depends a lot... I only like Sprint/Prone for ALT.
*Other keybinds people use:*
Space set to "Voice chat toggle".
Scroll Wheel Down set to "Jump".
E set to "Sprint" (Sometimes I set it to this, depends)
W/A/S/D set to E/S/D/F (Can even try R/D/F/G) (People do this for extra keys on the left side, I personally like it, but I'd probably never do it myself)
I crouch with capslock bc it is so easy to reach & doesn't use up any standard keybinds.
I kind of want to try out toggle ADS, though idk if it would work for me. Thinking about it, it seems awkward, but new keybinds usually are awkward at first.
When holding the right click button, your fine aim literally improves due to friction with a mouse. For sniping and long range, this is the preferred option, isn't it?
this is why i love hold click aim
It doesn't improve your aim, it just slows it down. Which means you'll be under correcting. If you want to get finer aim, get a bigger mouse pad and lower your DPI.
If thats how you feel you should just lower your ADS sensitivity since it accomplishes the same thing. Whether or not you do it, the added friction will make flicks more difficult.
@@iMini92 Oh yeah, I forgot ADS sensitivity is a setting now too, that is probably even better. But I would recommend most players get used to lower DPIs in general too.
a lot of people do like having some tactile resistance when going for precise shots. Personally, As long as the game reduces mouse sensitivity when scoped in, I don't need the extra friction
I think your channel is what that i needed
Been doing this ever since I play on PC for almost a decade now. Glad you managed to find this out too man.
This would be great for someone who plays claw on controller. The reason being is that the least amount of tension and stress on the hand you playing claw on, the better. It makes it more comfortable for awkwardly reaching buttons and for movement. Not only that, but the hardest thing about learning claw was pressing the triggers, it wasn't comfortable at all until I used my ring finger to press the trigger. That helped a lot but toggle puts a lot less stress on that. So I recommend it for controller players as well.
I am very confused by this, first off you claw with your right hand while your left ads unless you use southpaw and then how do you claw and not use your ring fingers?
@@Dekmakinson9 Sorry for not being clear. What I was trying to saying was that I use my ring finger to press the triggers because it’s more comfortable. And I claw with my left hand, so maybe it won’t work for everyone but it works for me :>
In Overwatch, I had rebound Ana's sleep dart to right mouse button as well as ADS to the shift key and it really made a difference for both abilities
I primarily use a trackball and have tried both methods. Holding RMB for me vs toggle RMB is definitely better for my configuration. I've tried it with standard mouse set up and it's incredibly hard to get used to. I will give it a go on standard mouse for a while to see how it goes.
Personally, the majority of shooters I play either have no ads or it is on toggle, however I have traditionally used hold, but I haven’t really thought about it until this vid so thanks
Also: if you have shorter fingers, I would recommend rebinding sprint to caps lock and crouch to shift - it’s helped me a lot
Crouch shift
Sprint caps lock
Ewwwww 🤮
Stinky small hands keybinds
Capslock is generally such an underused button because it always toggles that state and games can't turn this off. I personally have it reprogrammed to backspace on all my keyboards, way nicer for typing and also much better for using it in games.
@@nottheengineer4957 what if you need to delete something?
My best friend can’t use mouse and keyboard, but on controllers toggle ADS has been an immense improvement to her hand pain.
I believe every video game should have toggles for these things, it makes them way more accessible.
she should relax her grip lmfao
toggle ADS is one of those 'over my dead body' kinda things for me so I'll be sticking to hold for ADS
I've been a toggle user since I've played videogames for the first time, it has always felt right to me that way.
It just feels like there's only disadvantages for hold aim and not advantages, including things like your finger slipping, mouse bugging out and the extra muscle tension.
I’ve seen a couple comments about this on here, but one of the main advantages for hold aiming is reaction time, especially for faster pace shooters. For some people, it takes more thought to toggle it on and off than just pressing and releasing.
Good point! Love it, give me more! more!
I'm hold to shoot at the moment, but this video and you made me believe it's better that you press, not hold.
I liked holding, so I would simulate of the "holding and aiming weapon down to aim"
@@samplayzyt2729 yes, toggling ADS feels much slower than Holding ADS. It depends on the person really. I have been Holding for ADS for as long as I have played games, so it's been over a decade at least. It's like second nature and I can't change that
I disagree
I personally like to bind toggle to mousewheelup for locking down locations and bind hold to RMB for close range or unexpected engagements.
Personally, holding helps add immersion to the shooting
Very interesting point!
I went the opposite way some time ago (mainly playing pubg).
The ability to quickly scope in and out (without having to click twice) while moving around faster when not aiming down sight feels more flexible to me.
Hold ads definitely improved my gameplay.
But i guess getting used to your own setting it the most important thing :D
I personally like to use the keypad and enter coordinates to move the reticle around
I find that the downward pressure sometimes help getting smaller corrections. I even sometimes put my little finger down on the mousepad, at the base of the mouse, to slow it down even further
Toggle feels a lot nicer to me too in most games, it really depends on how long I have to aim for. If I ADS for a while then toggle but if not, hold it down.
i am too casual to bother getting used to toggle, and i like how much more responsive hold feels, it is also very nice for quickscoping or spam aiming
Quickscoping is definitely very nice with hold
@@CorrosiveCitrus I like to quickscope with toggle. It's basically just right click, left click, right click.
@@wilhufftarkin8543 I switched to hold for quickscoping, but I'm thinking of switching back to toggle after 3 months of hold
Ah, yes. And here we see the wild quick scopers, assuming that quick scoping is a viable option in every game, because to them, every game is Call of Duty reskinned. Be careful how you speak to CoD fanboys, as they might react very aggressively. They have been known to use derogatory terms such as “n****r” and “c**t”, quite often, though the majority of them are quite pasty, and have 0 drops of Alpha in them when confronted face to face.
I never thought about the friction stuff, but thank you for the idea.
This actually makes a lot of sense. I've been a lifelong console gamer, so Hold ADS was always a no-question choice, but I finally built a nice PC a few years ago and learned M&K. I still haven't tried toggle, but I have always felt that mouse ADS was uncomfortable and probably the only "worse" aspect of aiming with a mouse due to having to hold RMB, so perhaps I'll give Toggle a shot.
It is sort of like how aim assist slows down your aim when you are aiming relatively near your target. That reduced speed helps you track the opponent and you dont really need the extra aiming speed then.
Aim assist? Sounds like cheating to me
@@Mart-E12 not this again
@@Mart-E12 don't all pc player's download hacks?
@@shotgun_daddy-1089 What is this argument
@@punish_q3162 it's not argument if it's true
In my opinion, when it comes to aiming, you can train to use toggle ADS to improve the aim the same way you can train to control hold ADS to compensate for the stiffness when holding. The stuff I like to toggle in the other hand is leaning, since I have them binded to Q and E, so holding actually limits my movements by having a finger occupied holding the lean key. I sometimes have a crouch toggle too, because I use the pinky finger on the ctrl
I crouch with capslock bc ctrl is awful to reach for
@@reed6514 I have pretty big hands, so it's not a problem to reach, the problem is that having the hand so open limits the movement of the wasd fingers a bit. I think in Tarkov or R6 I had ctrl for hold and C for toggle
Pro-tip if you'd like to play with hold-lean. Swap the binds. Q for right lean, E for left lean.
@@CorrosiveCitrus sounds like witchcraft lol
@@kastro4460 i have long fingers but capslock just feels so much more natural
On a slightly different note, on a controller and if possible, I map the fire button to left trigger instead of the default right because it let's my right hand focus on precise aiming while my left hand is focused on timing trigger pulls. This helps especially well when using semiauto weapons against moving targets.
I hold SHIFT for ads so that it doesn't mess with my right hand.
I'd love to run a blind trial on stuff like this. So many factors involved, type of mouse, surface and frictional coefficients from multiple devices/pads, DPI and mouse sampling, etcetera... This reasoning is very cogent, but I'm not convinced. Your aim could be improving just from playing more and subconsciously thinking about this "trial" you're running. Even by your logic, if your brain is needing to focus on it more [remember you're not thinking about your challenge the same way literally no one thinks 'the mouse drag is worse' when they have the right click button depressed] "worrying about it" (even in the background) then clearly it's effecting something. Blind randomization might be able to sus out the immense bias, but I wouldn't be shocked if the result shows things like when and what we last ate has a stronger correlation to good mouse aiming.
Interesting take. As a controller main I doubt toggle would give me any benefits besides a slight reduce in muscle fatigue, but I will definitely try this next time I use KBM. I definitely feel my hand tense up when shooting in games like Valorant (probably due to several factors like being new to kbm and being used to squeezing the controller triggers) and this might be a great solution to that
controller? You are significantly disadvantaged with that
@@chief7573 tell that to all the kbm users complaining about aim assist
@@chrisdaniel1998 I haven't once complained about aim assist and everyone I know has not either, because keyboard and mouse is so much better.
@@chief7573 Yeah I’m not saying your wrong, I agree with you. I just wish all kbm users shared the same opinion. I hear complaints about aim assist all the time and it’s super annoying
I've thought about it but for me I tense my whole hand when I am in a fire fight so clicking down both buttons feels the most sensical
There were a couple shooters I played (can honestly not remember what they are) where if you click the RMB, its toggle, and when you hold RMB its… well hold. So you can do both whenever, which is really good if you go from using a SMG where you constantly hold and dont, to use a sniper where you can just click RMB and sit there for a minute scoped in without straining your middle finger
My first "introduction" to toggle ADS was ARMA 3, where that is the default and very logical since it's a slower pace game. After a brief adjustment period I have switched almost all my games to toggle ADS.
the reason for toggle ads isnt even cause of it being a slow paced game its cause the view zoom in is bound to holding right click down meanwhile ads is bound to just a single click
Atleast you didn't have to worry about more fingers to control while moving your mouse. Just aim and fire.
@@GimOA well, anyone who has ever played ARMA 3 will understand that you can never have enough fingers (or keys on your keyboard) for all of the shortcuts. So any help is welcome.
Wait, it's default? I've never noticed that. Maybe I changed it but as far as I remember I always held RMB for aiming... (Or maybe I held and then tapped to exit? who knows)
@@Yorick257 Normally holding RMB is used to zoom in, with single click being used for ADS.
I've always been a hold to ADS man, and at this point it's practically integrated into my aiming style. I also have to ask how hard you are pressing down on your mouse that holding right click increases the friction, I tried it out and there's no difference for me in terms of how I move my mouse. At the end of the day, I'm going to continue using hold to ADS, mostly because I've been doing it for my entire gaming career, and it works for me.
depends on mouse pad quality, you probably have a good one.
It’s physically impossible to press a button on a mouse without changing the underlying pressure and therefore resistance to movement on the pad in at least some way, because there is a threshold of resistance within the switch as “actuation force”, which necessarily has to pass through the body of the shell to the pad until it meets suffice resistance, as dictated by laws of physics.
It may be that you do not notice it or it does not negatively affect your experience, but it is there all the same.
If “no effect on aim” for in game actions is “absolutely paramount without compromise”, then it’s optimal move all actions off the mouse buttons. But there is also convenience and familiarity to factor it along with the frequency of such actions for any game’s requirement, which is why neither setup is objectively superior in the full picture, especially since toggle aim has games approaching the return states in different ways (such as some allowing sprint out of ADS, others not etc)
@@TheN00bPolice Really depends on the mousepad, softer cloth pads will have lots of speed variance depending on speed, but harder pads can have barely any at all. This guy probably uses a harder style pad.
@@TheN00bPolice he says no difference for him, the difference is probably there but too subtle for a human to notice it. It's like removing 5g from the mouse, it will be lighter and had less friction but most people won't feel the difference
@@TheN00bPolice Not true, you can offset the pressure by lifting the mouse subconsciously.
I think it's more a preference thing. When using ADS I tend to need extra tension in my hand anyways. Not only that, but I do like having freedom in choosing whether I can move at a regular speed or aim with precision, and having to click every time to switch between the two as opposed to just releasing the button is a lot more comfortable to me.
When I do that I become physically unable to flick, I always overshoot because at this point I'm used to the additional friction
You make a good point, but there are also advantages to holding right click.
1. It's more natural. If you make a non gamer use the mouse for the first time, they will almost always prefer hold ads
2. For a fast paced game like apex where using ADS slows you down, you have to press the right click again to move faster which is a disadvantage
One solution would be to rebind your ADS to a keyboard key, but then you sacrifice movement.
So, I think the best solution would be to use hold ADS with a foot pedal because you don't sacrifice movement or aim. This is probably one reason why cars dont make you use your hands for everything.
I say bind it to a side button if your mouse has one. Though I really prever toggle and I don't see it as a real downside if you are used to it and can anticipate getting out of aim
But really apex kill times are so long that the tenth or even hundredth of a second you may lose clicking to get out of aim is never relevant
I replaced right click with Q
I use both. Hold for close quarters combat and other brief and rapid encounters so I can switch between hip-fire and ads quickly and efficiently; however I use Toggle for long distance shooting with sustained fire that I know I wont have to break out of scoping/ads frequently; that way I maintain precision and keep my hand relaxed.
Oh yea you just go in the settimgs every time you anticipate a long range or short range engagement.
@@Yea___ I'm talking about when a game lets you have both; many games let's you have both a hold and a toggle bind either to the same or other input.
In different games I play I can use both and, for example, I use Right mouse for hold and wheel up for toggle.
They are useful for different situations, close quarter or long distance aiming. I've always bound mouse 5 to hold ADS and kept toggle ADS on mouse 2.
I can't agree with this. Coming from CS, I used toggle on nearly every game with the option. However, I've been playing on hold at a high level in games like Valorant and Apex Legends and the key factor that made me switch over is how hold allows you to transition between aimed or not as fast as possible. This is very important because these micro-decisions are what win you fights in apex and valorant; there's much more to it than simply aim, which can be trained and you get used to the extra tension from holding the mouse button down. Being ADS'd affects things like your movement speed which will at a higher level be significantly more important to have control over than your aim which won't really struggle that much with holding down the extra button. Those microseconds matter.
edit: I'd like to add that in games where you're ADS'd for extended periods of time like in R6 or Tarkov toggle makes a lot more sense; but in fast paced shooters hold is the way to go. Movement is king.
Yeah, games like csgo and siege it's default because you sit there holding angles. Apex is literally sliding, climbing and jumping all over the place.
@@swaggadash9017 there's no ads in CSGO unless u use AUG, Krieg or AWP
@@3jxrn405 It's still toggle by default. You've just said theirs no ADS and then listed 3 guns with ADS lol.
It's interesting that I use toggle ADS in third person shooters, but using it in FPS games feels very uncomfortable.
Hearing someone uses hold to aim is the same as hearing someone stands up to wipe
toggle firing is good too
Yes officer, this man right here
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Typical Apex Legends Arenas match 2v3 to 1v3 lol
your opening reason is EXACTLY why I have always preferred toggle since the days of COD modernwarfare.
I've always used mouse2 as my jump button in fps games, so space is my ADS. So I can use hold ADS with these benefits
mouse2 to jump also lets you be very precise with your inputs, it's useful in quake for general movement and rocket jumps
This isn't entirely true and i'll explain why.
If you're using toggle sights you're far more likely to lose fights due to the reaction to click timing, which is longer vs reaction to release(Sounds strange but it's true.)
This means you're more prone to be zoomed in and not being able to react fast enough to zoom out once you hit a range where it's doing more damage than good.
While pressure can affect your aim you really shouldn't apply more force on the switches than they need, otherwise you're at severe risk of damaging your hand and wrist by playing video games.
At that point i really suggest running aim trainers and focusing entirely on being relaxed in your fingers and wrist.
The difference between casual, pro and top tier aimers are basically how relaxed and aware they are of how their mouse hand feels.
Being relaxed won't only save your health, it will make you hit more consistently.
Same principle of control and maintained relaxation is required with a real weapon after all. If you "click" the trigger too strongly you will deviate your aim and miss your shot. If combatants can learn to squeeze nicely during firefights, gamers should manage during PvP.
Once you have experience with toggle, there's barely any difference. Toggle lets me track and 1 clip people easier, which is much more important than a tiny reaction time benefit in some very specific scenarios
Solution: Everyone has their prefferences, and game devs should just start adding dynamic ADS mode: tap the aim button and the game will wait for another press, or hold it and the game will stop aiming once you stop holding the control.
or just use the in-game setting that 99% of games have to switch from hold to toggle. lol
Ok but what happens when I quickly tap the aim button but don’t actually want to stay on ADS, I don’t think we need a dynamic ADS mode.
No, that only adds latency if you have to wait for both type of commands.
It is better to choose one system or the other.
I'm pretty sure every modern game with ADS already has this feature.
Game will wait and i will die
It really depends on the game.
Sometimes you need to quickly switch from ads to non-ads quickly to increase your movement speed, for example in valorant with the bulldog or in apex with the mastiff
What why would you need to ads quickly in valorant? Only ADS when holding an angle and going for 1-2HKO because your firing speed gets gutted.
@@MsDestroyer900 you can see what I mean with this video ua-cam.com/video/b1WBF0F23rI/v-deo.html
I don't know if it's been patched but when I used to play a lot it was pretty OP
I switched to hold ads about a year ago because of valorant. The OP has a second zoom so with toggle zoom it takes 2 clicks to unzoom (unless you pull of a knife, but that is still 2 button presses to get back to your primary unzooomed). Where as if you use hold zoom you can instantly unzoom. This may seem insignificant but it feels so much snappier to play.
Been playing quite a lot of games like Escape from Tarkov, where it’s defaulted to toggle-aim but I’ve never really had much thought. I might look into doing this more often!
However if you want to switch quickly between hip fire and ads I think it would be harder with toggle like to do both rapidly during a fight at close range for example as there is more to press with toggle
It doesn't ever really work like that in reality
Games that focus on scoped guns let you stay scoped a lot. And for classic style shooters like CS you usually unscope with the mousewheel anyway
Good take
@@puppieslovies im talking more about controller and apex
@@spidersav nobody who takes fps games seriously chooses to use a controller
@@puppieslovies let me tell you why that was not only arrogant, small & narrow minded and stupid but also why you are wrong.
1: some people simply don't have the money for, a tower, a high refresh rate monitor, a mouse and keyboard, a mouse pad, a desk, a decently comfortable chair. meanwhile if you have a tv, all you need is a console for a small fraction of the price
They might have other priorities
- Bills
- Kids
- Business saving plans
2: some people want to sit comfortably on their sofa with their hands relaxed, after a long hard day of work, or looking after the kids or going the gym.
3: some people simply don't have the space, maybe they live in a small apartment, a shared room, or they move a lot and it's simply not viable to take a whole PC set up since the next place you go might not have a desk or somewhere comfortable.
4: some people like to come home and play together with their wives girlfriends or best friend sitting side-by-side on a two seater sofa passing the controller back and forth every few games talking about each other's gameplay and spending quality time while also filling that ''me'' time at the same time. I mean someone like you wouldn't know about that kind of thing.
5: some people grew up with a controller in their hand, Think of call of duty for example all of those montages of trick shots we're all on consoles and even to today's standards are respected in the PC community for their skill
6: some people can progress much easier than others, someone might only have three hours a week while someone else has 35 hours a week, and yet the guy with three hours could be better even though the guy with 35 plays a lot more, that's a fact not an opinion.
7: some people hit progression walls you play a few hundred hours of your favourite game and then to actually progress and get any better you need to do aiming training, meanwhile others just infinitely get slightly better every day, that person could be a controller player while the other person could be a mouse and keyboard player and vice versa.
8: there are close range and hip fire benefits to playing on controller in a lot of games due to the nature of it, you hear pro players complain about this fairly often.
9: there are quite a few pro controller players who absolutely smash and annihilate PC players, especially in Apex, do your research and you'll see for yourself.
10: some people don't want the hassle of a PC, viruses, upgrades, needing to sit in a chair, needing to have your arms fairly elevated, slow pc's, meanwhile with a controller you can relax your arms in any way you want you can kick your legs up and lean back in any way you want. Not to mention that if you bought a PS4 when it came out up until last year that was the best console you could get and therefore had no reason to upgrade since it literally has given you no problems for six or seven years, the bare minimum of clean it every 2 years and buy a spinning disc drive of 5 terabytes once for cheap as fuck.
11: you can take a console to a friends house and provide fun for everyone there, with a PC that is not only awkward but hard to transport, a console will fit in a normal backpack with all the wires and a few controllers and a headset, while not being all that heavy. You know, socialising in person? Crack a beer or have a meal in between?
12: some people just generally prefer the feeling of a controller it's a different way to interact with the game, it's a different experience something that a lot of people generally genuinely might enjoy more than using a mouse and keyboard hunched over a monitor severely overpriced at that for a decent size and refresh rate.
13: this is a minor one but in game chat sucks and for a lot of slow PCs having open Google Chrome can eat a lot of power, meanwhile PlayStation and Xbox have party chats which are extremely easy and reliable.
And I know the only thing you're going to have to say about all of this is PC Master race, but I get more frames, but I'm rich or my dad paid for my PC and I live in a first world country or I'm a lot more above working class then I realise. I can't believe you took the time to write this oh my God, but the fact of the matter is you just got absolutely destroyed and you should probably take some time to re-evaluate the way you think of things and have a little bit more compassion and understanding and widen your mind two possibilities before you make yourself look a fool.
I'm not saying PC isn't more powerful, but at the end of the day if the game exists on console and PC 95% of the time it will run just as smoothly and be just as fun. The true benefits of PC is games like MMORPGs.
I like PC and I like console, there are games specifically on PC that cannot be played on console but to say that you don't take yourself seriously as a console player is just genuinely so unfair and disrespectful to those more unfortunate or their preferences.
Yeah some people even go for such extremes as rebinding fire key to keyboard, so that when you're shooting at someone you don't have to press any buttons on your mouse, which makes it harder to track people
I practice my aim holding both mouse bottoms, so it doesn't really take my focus away. If anything, the extra friction is helpful for fast flicks.
If your mouse switches are so stiff that pressing them noticeably affects your aim, you should swap them out with more sensitive ones (otherwise holding LMB will also continue to affect your aim)
counterpoint: my high sensitivity setting synergises with this added mouse friction. kinda like a real world lower ADS sensitivity setting
fr tho, foot pedals would probably be best, but also some kind of dual option would be cool. like right click to hold and maybe mouse4/5 (side buttons) to toggle
i think i need a foot pedal now
@@garbaj why not go all nuclear and play apex using a guitar hero controller or a drum set lmfao
haha imagine just having full on piano pedals under your desk for gaming
@@tuxido4913 they exist for racing games. probably super easy to set up though might need 3rd party middleware to translate controller input to keyboard (assuming the game doesnt let you mix and match controller and keyboard)
@@ince55ant could prob do it through steam bindings.
never thought of it in this way
still, its likely better for games with higher average Time To Kill
im hold but im changing, its a very good point and i see myself often getting to tightened up to fully turn around
comment section: "Hold ADS is better imo", "it gives immersion", "Thank you" etc.
me: okay so I learned what ADS is
Aim down sights
You're not very bright are you?
extra friction is desirable when aiming. It gives more resistance, therefore allows finer movements. Our hands are good at putting out force, but when the we need to change that force just slightly, it'll fail to do that. With more friction, you are able to put more force for less movement, which is exactly what you need while ADSing
More importantly, your established muscle memory is used to that force being applied and builds brain pathways to actively make the actions more refined. Plus, none of this matters because you should be aiming with your elbow anyways.
Not necessarily if you're already playing on low sensitivity.
@@hauptmanngilbertoduber9953 as someone who plays on extremely low sens (to do a 360 it takes me from beginning to the end of my mousepad, which is 1 meter long), Ibcan twll you that's not the case
@@SilaDrenja Sure but in the end its preference. I always found myself playing good in games where I don't have to hold to aim in. Using 400 dpi and 1.3 sens in csgo. Guess the weight of the mouse is relevant too.
do you have any sort of anything to prove this?
I’ve played on V as my shooting keybind for about a year because of these same reasons. I’m glad to see that someone can explain my thoughts behind my change better than I can so that I don’t sound like an idiot
Right click jumping was used a lot back in the early arena fps days because of rocket jumps and such. I never got used to it, though. Might be worth trying if you're super competitive.
Interesting 🧐
Very interesting indeed 🤔
Or you just aim down sites with the keyboard
Yeah right, I remember some old games used to have the "Z" key for Ads
@@hektirebagins3863 You know most people rebind keys before they start playing. I have never liked or used ADS on right click as I found aiming clunky.
I actually use right clicking for reload and or E depending on the game
I like your shorthand content lately buddy
Im not only holding left and right, but also middle mouse in games usually.
i have scientific reason why hold ads is better... explain by looking at how logic gate works
yeah also this toggle ads can be really good with this mouse grip i have to try it ua-cam.com/video/WllCibCnTeg/v-deo.html this advance mouse grip from kovakk is really applicable to this
for hold u can use the AND gate. Hold the ads button make the input go from 0 to 1 (as long as u hold) just add this with wutever input add a value 1 then the output is 1. For toggle u can use set/ reset gate ... look kinda longer than the AND gate so the current flow abit slower... this is my theory, its not "better" to that considerable
So we can also bind the firing key to the keyboard. then aiming would be 100% consistent compared to when not firing.
This video has me considering moving ABS to Shift and Sprint to R-Click
If it’s an option for some games I make the q key be toggled and right click is holding it down. That is only if q is not occupied by another function
Also changed to toggle, it is beneficial if you need to hold your aim for longer for example if you trap view a door.
ofc for quick scoping a hold is usually better, but in most games a sprint or shot (bolt rifles) will disengage the toggle anyway so you can use toggle just as well.
In some occasion hold could be better, but i personally use toggle. I hope games could have hybrid ads which could use both settings.
God this really does explain it. There is this one very old FPS game that I used to play, and the aim down sights was the letter C. Now i understand why it felt so much easier and smoother to track and hit people in it
I used to be toggle but switched to hold many years ago. Hold just feels more responsive and I feel more focused while doing it, like I'm actively doing something for this specific purpose and therefore more focused on it.
garbaj, i looked at the title (actively knowing for a few days that i should switch but not wanting to because it feels awkward) and instantly switched. and let me just say; i have literally never played more consistent in my life than i did the last 2 hours or so
I finally found someone who tried to swap shootbutton with jump button for same reason. I did it around 2010-2011 till this day.
From a biomechanics perspective the muscles in your wrist are more contracted when using your index and middle finger to put pressure on a mouse
Hold ADS and toggle ads on controller does make a difference. I use toggle ads because it frees up the left trigger to be used for things like grenades or other equipment. If you use hold ads on controller it needs to be a trigger or bumper button because otherwise you can't aim and use ads at the same time. But if you use toggle ads then you can actually map it to pressing down one of the joysticks which works very well in classic games like Halo and still works amazingly today also in Halo and other games
Funny enough
There was a time on ps4 siege where I aimed with triangle and shot with L1. I changed it due to me losing psplus and never really got back into the habit
You can also just rebind your ads button to like mouse button 4 or space as well if you are already changing how you ads may as well try it
I'm a genius. I knew this extra pressure makes a big sifference I always notice my aim way stronger
Helped me notice that I don't press right mouse down in shooters, but rather pinch the mouse itself between my middle and ring finger to register the click. Probably due to shape of the mouse I've grown used to but thanks.
I enjoy the extra strain.. It's almost like you're actually trying to use a gun or something.
I tend to enjoy games as simulators though so I like the idea of holding a button to hold up my gun.
Different folks, different strokes.
I had the same feeling at first with the downward force on the mouse. But instead of changing to toggle, i changed the ADS key to the side key on the mouse
Imo, it actually depends on your mouse device holding type. There are mainly to kinds of it: completely laying your hand on a mouse (usually a big one) and moving it with a hand+arm, another one, that I use, is holding your mouse (usually a small or light one) with only 3 fingers (thumb + ring + pinky) and moving it with only a hand. First one holding type already creates quiet a lot of friction, and usually ppl use very high sensitivity with it, barely picking up mouse for repositioning it on a mouse pad - here you can use w/e ADS you want, holding right button won't change friction that much. Now the other holding type is about having medium-high sensitivity and constantly picking up mouse with 3 fingers and repositing it to some default place on a mouse pad - here hold ADS is a big NO, b/c sudden increase in friction will mess up with your aiming - you can't really control how much force you apply to the right button in tense situations, so variable friction will lead to variable sensitivity when aiming. Also holding any button prevents from picking up and repositioning mouse.