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I make the adventure on the 2nd day.
Only normal people around, we firsttried the adventure. :)
I play just 2 days later... go in to get the _"Athena drip flame"_ for my ship and before I can even cancel the voyage, a Reapergalleon Rank.2 shoots an army of chainshots at my Sloop. :D
All of them missed, same as the guy who shot out to board us. Lelol. What can I say appart from... *FOR THE REAPERS!!!!!!! - FOR THE DARK BRETHEREN!!!!!!!.* No hard feelings at all.
i personaly love the way they did it and the freedom you get, you are not forced to be a good boy and rescue the fisherman, you can choose to play evil pirate and delay other crews, its really fun to play it like that and the king of the hill aspect should become a game mode or implemented in the game like a fort that you gotta hold the top till the door opens or something.
Timing of the video is unfortunate, they pushed out a hotfix!
did anyone else see the room fillled with gold piles under the brotherhoods feet?
The Reapers lost the war for Golden Sands so Rare created the most grief-able Pro-Merrick Adventure known to man
Dont know anyone purposely grieving the adventure. Wouldn't say people pvping is grieifing. More along the lines of playing the game...
hey its that guy who makes the videos
@Goofygigabite Oh damn it's my #1 fan! Still living rent-free in your head, I see? 😳
@@CliffTheStoryGuy seems to me he is just calling out ur terrible comment that is false.
@Goofygigabite never watched any of this dudes videos. Just stating his comment makes zero sense. And he is wrong.
I’m a lucky chap. First time I joined it was the start. No pvp, no sinking, everyone worked together. We did it first time and got all the rewards. No need for another try.
I didn’t do the very start, but we still worked together. Also got it in one, and also lucky.
Lucky you
I also had a similar experience we all worked together and did all the deeds in first try and it was at the start when I joined
Same
I had the exact same experience
Honestly this might accidentally have created a better model for a dedicated PVP mode to replace the arena, a sea of the damned located king of the hill event with dark versions of familiar islands.
that sounds insanely fun and something pvp focused, so rare isn't going to add it
I think they instead of adding a whole new game mode they should add a world event that is pvp focused, like an area in the sea will be where it starts (like skele fleets) and then make it a fight to the death by whoever comes to the world event and whoever wins gets a jackpot of loot that floats to the top, a quick and fun world event. but it requires more than one ship which is a problem because majority of the servers now days are literally empty and dead with no other pirates in sight
so I think it should be a quest that you could get from the reapers hideout that takes one person to activate it and it would place an icon in the sky(like a world event) but it wouldn't take up a world even space, kinda like the veils.
*smiles in insider*
And using Peer to peer connections instead of servers
The very moment that the Pirate Lord said "I'll send other crews to help you", my immediate thoughts were "Oh no... please don't..."
Why that didn't occur to anyone at Rare, is beyond me.
yeah i remember hearing that and going oh fuck here we go boys, altho i was lucky and got it done
Same... I knew it was going to be horrible.
Cus they think people are actually gonna help eachother for a painting…
When he said that I thought he meant other pirates like pendragon and wild rose, was extremely disappointed when he meant real players
they did consider it, the quote i believe is "I'll be sending other crews to join the battle. If you work together, you stand the greatest chance of success"
When I did this Adventure, nobody knew what was happening or what had been done. It was complete chaos, and whilst trying to scale the tower, I kept getting killed by phantoms and other pirates and was ultimately left behind by my crew. I was super excited for this Adventure but this experience definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. I at least wanted to see the ending :/
If ur getting killed by the ai then u left a salty taste in ur own mouth...
@@RomeEmpire123 "and other pirates" 😅
Edit: sorry I should have clarified better it was a combination of other pirates and phantoms overwhelming me all at once.
@@FiverMarch no no it was pretty clear just some ppl cant help but try to feel better by comparing themselves to others cuz of their insecurities, no offense to insecurities they are serious
Yep I did it first day had no issues had a great group of guys in there and we knocked it out in like 10 minutes. I guess it took a while for people to realize you could PVP in in the event
Yeah same, super easy, really interesting to hear that people just started murdering eachother
Same here, day one this event was incredible. Everyone focused on solving puzzles and rescuing our salty boi. Day two sh*t got real.
Same ... good times
Its more likely that everyone that really wants to finish the adventure did so on the first day and after that decided to fuck up everyone elses days.
Same all pirate legends like Myself whas really fun
Finally managed to do this tonight. Completed the whole thing solo, left other fighting and managed to sneak through. Let my ship sink and kept my head low. Ruined the experience but I at least got to see the end. Simply disable the PvP on adventures like this...
After hearing of this adventure being a “PvP paradise” myself and a friend had started it and began to fight the other ships. After realising that nobody was really up for it we just stood down and helped to finish the adventure.
Remember: During this adventure, if crews do not wish to partake in PvP then you should probably leave them be. Save it for the main map.
Save it for the main map lmao. And sail for 30 minutes. To find nobody and server hop a bunch... No thsbks ill take the instant pvp and constant pvp with this adventure.
@@RomeEmpire123 it's literally people like you that are ruining this game let alone this adventure. It's not sea of thieves when there isnt much thieving to be done.
I've completely this adventure seven times now because I keep really enjoying the group play aspect. Not once in any of that time have I had anyone attempt to PvP me, or anyone else involved. I think this problem was big in the first couple hours, but it fell off quickly and has just been blown way out of proportions ever since.
Still, though, I may have been insanely lucky this whole time. I would absolutely love to do more multi-crew, instanced adventures/Tales like this; but PvP should just be turned off to keep assholes from spoiling other people's fun.
Lol. Yeah right. This game is nothing but assholes who would rather ruin your day than just let you enjoy the game. Seriously the most toxic group of gamers ive ever seen in one game.
The only way to fix this event is to come out with an apology, extend the limited time adventure and disable PvP or if you kill another pirate or shoot a cannon ball at another pirates ship you will be kicked from the session not without the pirate lord lecturing you and generally being disappointed in you
Sea of Thieves has just recently announced that there will be a hotfix for the adventure, where only 2 ships will be in the same instance of the Sea of the Damned, and the adventure timer has been upped to one hour.
It's not ideal for those who have been frequently spawncamped, but it is somewhat significantly better than it was before.
It's still unsufficient and we wouldn't be in such a mess had they listend in the first place. Even for the summoning of the megalodon the experience could easily be ruined and they never acknowledged it.
What are we gonna do with 2 ships?!?
@@mystix4727 less pvp... Classic rare bro classic.
I just did this adventure a few days ago with 2 friends as a brigatine. When we entered the Sea of the Damned we were at first really confused what we had to do but eventually we figured it out. I think we got fortunate with the other crews in the adventure. We had 4-5 sloops who didnt know what to do and seemed like they started Sea of Thieves just some days ago and 1 brigatine crew. They werent that good as well and didnt attacked us. In the end we finished the adventure together with the brigatine crew and had nobody who tried to sink us even though our ship was the most of the time not guarded.
French Falcore here, I had the worst time ever trying to complete this adventure on my first try. We were live on a Sloop and there was a single Galeon... of French Pirates (yes I'm ashamed to be French when I play Sea of ThieveS) spawn camping all the other ships. They basically managed to get all the ships stuck in one spot and where killing everyone, one blunderbuss shot in the neck at a time...
Personaly I tried to communicate with them and understand what they were doing like "ok I guess you finished the adventure and want to prevent other players from completing it?" but no, that wasn't even their rational. Their answer was "Zis iz ze arena bro, stop whining, it's a pvp game, it's sea of thieves not sea of friends. Zey took away ze arena, we want to pvp and here zere iz no respawn time so it's the arena". Don't mind all the other people trying to understand what was happening and just wanting to complete the mission. They decided for the whole server what this was. In the chaos I tried to get the other crews to join the alliance and turn the tide... but no one actually managed to do so. We all had to reset on another server.
My first time taking a break from the game was the mission where we had to team up to fight the first megalodon. Some teams completed it early and then were chasing noobs trying to do it as well. They would pretend to want to help you, once you reached the summoning spot... they would kill you. There was no incentive whatsoever to complete that mission again. So basically you could complete it the first two days and then... nop. I tried for 2 weeks with a friend, we could never complete it and we gave up.
Recently rare brought this back claiming that it was everyone's favourite update that was back... well I guess for people who had a great time, it must have been cool.
With this latest update, it's clear Rare doesn't understand how infuriating the experience can be and how even fans can be disgusted of the game. PVP everywhere else is fine, even getting killed when I have nothing on board... I don't care. It's part of the game. But in these instances, time limited missions, depending on the fact that you can team up with randoms... this is 100% a mistake. For me, it was the last mistake to be honest. Let's not even talk about the fact that the translation for the french audience is a mess, is often only half done/implemented, is buggy as hell (right now we have code tags in our achievement/progress notifications, the text overruns or simply doesn't display... and when you contact Rare about it they don't reply or acknowledge the issue... For a game they still sell at full retail price... well you get the picture.
I personally decided to stop playing and focus my too rare free time on something else. I know a lot of people from my server made the same decision recently.
Good luck if you try again after the new Hotfix that was just pushed out.
Avoir honte d'être français juste à cause du comportement stupide d'autres .... à mon humble avis, tu es dur avec toi-même pour rien, c'est dommage.
A ce rythme, tout le monde aura honte de son propre pays vu le nombre d'ahuri sur le jeu.
Ceci étant dit, je partage le même avis que toi sur cette aventure. En définitive, c'est un peu de la m****
@@thazhok8059 honte est un grand mot et un trait d'humour dans ce contexte. Après je vis en Angleterre et quand je suis en train de jouer avec mes potes d'ici et que 8 cas sur 10 les gens qui veulent nous pourrir la vie et nous insultent sont Français, ça ne nous donne pas une super réputation.
@@AssassinSquid ha oui, en effet, ce doit être particulier ...
I’m honestly tempted to go out there and fight the reaper runners killing the experience for others. Despite all of its drawbacks, it’s certainly helped me with gaining PvP experience, and I can help other in turn after spending hours and hours of trying to complete the event
@SONAR PRODUCTIONS I tip my hat to you, bravo!
Hate to tell ya, but If the reapers are actively coming to kill you and other Pve lords, they are not “reaper runners” they just actually know how to play the game
I express my issues to a post a while back and yk what I'm met with???
"It's an open world game you can do whatever you want"
A classic "git gud🤣"
And the classic excuse to justify PvP
"It's calls sea of THIEVES noob"
@@sublime7617 by ruining everyone's experience?? Something tells me that that wasn't rare expecting us to do with this adventure
@@Mrhappyface52 I really don’t care what they intended. I just like to hear pvers cry
Tried to do this adventure last night and it was pure carnage - as soon as we came through the portal there were two sloops on fire destroying each other and someone immediately came to attack us. In addition to that the constant chaos made it really hard to know what was going on and what to do, and a crew was even spawn camping the capstan, intentionally stopping people from progressing. It timed out before we had a chance to finish and left a bad vibe for the crew.
I disagree with saying it is not the fault of those who are fighting everything that moves. It IS their fault because in my experience even if you try to talk it through and say “hey, i don’t want to PvP i just want to see this adventure” i get spawn camped on my own boat even with instant respawns by PC players killing people for no reason even when they don’t fight back. I would completely understand if two or three crews agreed to PvP and asked the other crews to take their time with the adventure but killing players who just want to chill out and enjoy the game is just plain annoying. I’m not saying i’m one of those people who hate the PvP aspect purely because i don’t enjoy it i completely understand and respect that PvP is something a lot of players enjoy but killing players for no reward, no rep and no reason, is just plain boring
Yeah, doing something shitty with absolutely no rewards just because « you can » and the devs didn’t prevent you to do it doesn’t make you innocent. It just makes you a annoying brat that nobody want to hang out with. But I agree that the designers should had learned by now...
If you kill someone and say "hey it's not my fault, there's no law against it" well sure you're not a criminal but you're still an asshole tho.
@@loboloco2048 Or, the people having a meltdown about a video game are the "annoying brats" and should just accept that people are going to pvp in something that allows them to :)
SoT is not the game for you :D
Stop ruining people's good time :D
I just got really lucky when I did this Adventure. Everyone in there were really nice people and we all had a blast completing the Adventure, but there was always that fear that one crew would wait until the very last minute to start shitting on everyone and just be a douchebag. I will never be able to comprehend why Rare puts so much trust in their playerbase. For some reason they can’t accept the fact that some people are just pieces of shit that want nothing more than to ruin a good time, and then say “it’s a pirate game.” But real pirates never went around killing people unless they personally gained something from it. Spawn camping in the Sea of the Damned gains you absolutely nothing but a bad reputation for Sea of Thieves, as you have most likely showed a brand new player the fastest route to the uninstall button.
Honnestly when i first got in here i assumed there was a counter mission from the reapers to prevent merrick's saving.
But no, just pple killing each others for no reason, eh
The reason is because its fun. No other reason needed.
@@RomeEmpire123 exactly lol. It's so hard to find players in adventure. Here there's a ton of them.
@@RomeEmpire123 yea I'm sure it's fun for you, have fun ruining other people's adventures for your own sadistic pleasure
@@phuzzybond2252 Eh personally I dont get it. I love pvp when it's actually two ships/groups of players both fighting eachother, but camping a load point and softlocking people into a area where they can't fight back is not real pvp. It's just what trolls who can't win a fight do.
@@airplanefood3576 nobody ever said anything about camping spawnpoints man. It's hard to find good players on the seas to TDM with and lmao we would crush u in a fight not even close.
I spent the entire time I was doing this adventure defending 3 ships from a reaper while everyone else was doing the pve, honestly most fun I’ve had doing any voyage in forever
"You were warned time and time again" Yes they were and completely ignored it. The backlash they received is certainly very very well deserved.
this adventure has made the Toxic PvP go insane
Not only are the TDMers camping the adventure but people are more likely to sink you for no reason right as you spawn at an outpost. most of these people aren't even good at the game, but they get the jump on you with fire and blunderbombs and it tips the scales in their favor massively... I understand that "reapers are the PvP faction" but you get *nothing* from sinking a non-emissary ship that has *just* raised their anchor and gotten two feet from the outpost's dock... btw this happened to me twice in a row yesterday and we lost thousands in purchased resources. if it weren't for the resources being just burned the way they were I wouldn't feel bad
Honestly, as much as I agree that it was a stupid decision on Rare's behalf to do this, or at least a massive oversight, the only people actively ruining the experience is the people hell-bent on PvP. At least me and my crew are not the only ones who knows what it feels like to have your sessions ruined by PvPers while we're just trying to go about our business, any longer.
THANK you Cap'n Falcore for saying this.
My ship and SoT experience has almost exclusively been that of a family crewed ship.. Captained by myself along with my children (8, 12, 15) the last 3 events we have not been able to complete do to this very mechanic.. the Megs return sounded so amazing in theory.. But in practice, my children and I only seen the completion of it via UA-cam videos as we where constantly being sunk by bored individuals. And it is now on repeat with this current adventure.. We sail in ( lmfao no small feat in itself ) then boom boom boom, get boarded and sunk..
Please do not get me wrong, yes it is infact the game, and although I have had fun defending the ship and the young ones.. It is a crushing experience to be so close so many times just to have to proverbial rug pulled out from under us. We will be attempting this adventure for the 24th time today.. The 25th shall follow soon enough I would wager.
W parent
@@exomotors7380 ? Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
@@rooksnemesis W = win
You are a cool parent for playing vidéo game with all ( i assume ) your children. That's what i was trying to say 😅
usually people tell other that they are a W(inner) if they do something awesome or say something true and L(oser) if they say something very Bad or do something not cool
@@exomotors7380 thanks. I figured that's what you ment.. But cant be to sure these days lmfao.
thankfully when I did the adventure people asked if they wanted to tdm and if you didn't want to they left you alone so my crew and another sloop did the adventure and it was a good experience
I'm a day 1 player, played this once, gave up once the whole server was just tdming. Awful.
Same! All you get is a stupid picture as well.
Its cause you joined a pvp event as a pve player...
@@RomeEmpire123 could have fooled me. What rewards do you get for doing PVP of any kind here lol
@@brettmurray2473 enjoyment? Entertainment? Fun? All the things the regular mode takes forever to give
@@brettmurray2473 you got so lucky a full tdm lobby sounds awesome
It really does make a lot of sense that in the land of the dead... we can't kill each other. What an easy and natural way to integrate some pve only environments that people keep asking for. They could come up with different ways crews could oppose each other, but ultimately, would be such a breath of fresh air for the underworld to actually have different rules regarding player death................. Agree it's a big oversight, really hope they change that up.
When I first did this, I was lucky that we had someone on our crew who had done it before and the other crews were nice as well. Expect one who tried to steal and sink our ship but he didn't last.
It's really a shame that Rare didn't think about the things that happened in Shrouded Deep that would ruin people's fun.
But on the bright side, you can continuously kill the phantoms to work towards the milestone to purchase Cherished Fury of the Forsaken
But on an even brighter side, this adventure demonstrates the idea of having the Sea of the Damned as a separate server and bringing multiple ships which could lead to a possible SotD realm people can explore!
No idea how this mess got approved without the glaring dangers.
Disappointed massively in how this finale adventure was ruined before I’d even realized where i was and what was going on. Their quick hot fix launching tomorrow is no help at all. I did the adventure without doing the adventure, quite literally pointless even thinking about doing it again.
It's good to hear other players are also joining random servers to save people from the trolls. It's become a big problem with the adventure and I see how it can be annoying to new players.
I never heard captain falcore this emotional, and he’s right just implement friendly fire and this adventure would be great… 👍
First time I got spawned camped, managed to get away and run the gauntlet, but ran out of time. Second time I got mates and they kept them busy while I completed. Last time, I helped a few friends complete, all the while running around saying I am friendly! I am friendly. Got it done, but it was like a bunch of teenage boys got a bonfire and some gas to play with.
I havent had any problems with this adventure , done it with my friend on a sloop with 2 random brigantine crews , no one tried to sink anyone or kill anyone . We helped eachother , fixed our ships , waited for eachother on checkpoints and finished adventure as a one big crew , really amazing experience .
I must say that PVP in this adventure kinda was intended. Part of the community wanted to save golden sands and they were willing to save Merrick if they had to, but the other half of the player base wanted to destroy golden sands and maybe they could try and ruin any rescue attempt on Merrick. This adventure can be seen as good if you take into consideration the roleplay factor, although in this case going against the rescuers won't give you anything in the end.
On a side note, becoming batman was so fun I wouldn't mind another adventure like this.
I completed it yesterday, first try. There was a sloop shooting at everyone, but we soon figured it out and worked together to take them down and make sure they were down while some of us completed the quest. The sloop left when they noticed they wouldnt be able to do any harm and all crews managed to be at the top in the end. Of course some of us had pvp experience, but I can see how a pvp crew could ruin it for mainly PVE players. Me and 2 friends r regularly joining the mission to protect fresh/pve players against pvpers trying to ruin their experience.
After doing this adventure, I noticed a few people flying the reaper's mark. They said - explicitly - "ALL NEWCOMERS - FLY THE REAPER'S MARK IF YOU DESIRE TO TDM! OTHERWISE, YOU'LL BE GLADLY LEFT ALONE!" whenever a new ship showed up. I smiled at that and flew the reaper's mark after having done it myself. One brig came up with the alliance flag and started to do the adventure, then a fifth ship - a galleon - showed up and started firing SPECIFICALLY against the ship trying to do the adventure because apparently they just wanted to ruin the adventure.
Everyone with a reaper's mark allianced with the brig and ganged up on the galleon, with me escorting the brig players while they did the lighthouse puzzles. That galleon REALLY tried their best to ruin it for the brig, but it was amazing seeing a solo sloop and two TDM brigs team up to put the crew of trolls in their place so that the brig could do the adventure. Never saw them again, but it will be a memory I'll treasure for ages.
When I did the adventure with my usual brig crew, we went through the tunnel of the damned, got stuck after the pirate lord gave his speech, then were dumped at a random outpost (all my pirate customizations - clothes, emotes, equipment - were reset too which was salting the wound) a total of THREE TIMES. First time we got in, there were TDMers and they left us alone but the lighthouses were all lit. Once we decided to just storm the spire and see what happens, we were told time was up and we were spat out and forced to try again. This time we got a fresh world spawn and while the crews we met were friendly, they didn't seem to stick around. I think they were TDMers that didn't see other people wanting PvP so they left or newb crews who didn't understand what was going on and just left. That said we did have a brig that kept chasing after us and ramming us... Wound up with me scaling the tower, one person keeping our ship moving and one person doing the light houses.
Falcore is 100% on point with this. I have friends that have left the game behind because of poor choices in this Adventure and 'The Shrouded Deep.' Please, Rare, listen to your community.
My first run was a success. All insiders, three i’ve ran into before in the insiders build. We all left someone in a lighthouse and ran up the place. Waited for everyone before “rescuing” him at the end.
Agreed, I completely agree. The adventure has a decent story, which’s has its positives and negatives, but the main issue outside of the story and towards mechanics of the adventure is the working together. I think what Rare was trying to do was what they did with Shrouded Deep, but forgot that the goals of this adventure and that one are completely different. But this time, your in a “mini map” with unlimited responses. It’s an issue I should have released while testing it, and I feel at fault that I didn’t see the negativity of that feature at first. Let’s just hope that these upcoming adventures will be more well thought out.
Ofcourse rare did this on purpose. This is a clear test for some sort of pvp related game mode.
Believe it or not but when this video came out I had just finished the event, and luckily I was with players who worked together and had fun, I'd have hated to see how it would've been for other players who just want to enjoy an Adventure.
Add on a bug where it appears you don't actually enter the second portal after the crossing. My crew has timed out waiting for that second portal a half dozen times. We've only made it into the area once.
I think the worst thing about this is that PvP in this adventure was brought up numerous times on the Insider Forum and it was just ignored over and over. Makes a joke of the whole insider programme.
To be fair all insiders is nowadays is who got which reward first (silver blade stuff e.t.c)
Took me three tries yesterday due to the PVPers. First time they weren't sinking ships. Just pulling them into a group and spawn camping you. By the third time I was used to running the adventure without a ship. Dolphin diving from lighthouse to lighthouse. Tedious but ultimately safer.
twice i had everybody working together, and the third one, we TDM with an other crew willing to TDM, because their battleflag was risen up and ours too. letting other players enjoy the adventure while we were enjoying a little bit of a lesson in pvp. I think it's the good approach for the defenders of the TDM in adventure mode. rise your battleflag or reaper's mark or idk, and if another crew is willing to fight with you in your little spot of the map, then everybody is fine. I mean, it wasn't toxic, everybody was having so much fun, no spawn killing, rules went implicit, and we even repaired each others ships while the rest of the crew fought each other :)
And the adventure is nice btw.
i tried the event with a friend, and then before we knew it, when we docked, our ship got stuck and someone kept jumping on board and attacking us, lowering our anchor etc. we eventually just decided to stop playing until the next update
My crew did the whole first part on our own, a solo sloop guy launched onto the tavern and looted the whole place before we even realised what was happening, we climbed the tower to hear the sound of gold being looted got inside and it was empty.
This adventure was kind of a disaster and disappointment, we went through the portal excited then got through there to find it 2/3 finished already and were confused what to do before not getting any treasure because someone was camping up there.
Well said Falcore! Hopefully Rare will learn from this and make Multi Crew Adventures that are actually well designed from now on
Oh! I have an idea!! Why doesn’t Rare make a game mode, where people just PVP. Like some kind of ARENA or something!!!
No one would cry that some thriumphant sea dog is spawn camping them in an adventure and everybody would be happy.
the funniest part of all of this is how happy are tdmers when they can find each other, and how easy it was at the end of the day for rare to create a tdm gamemode. I'm not sure anymore that rare REALLY likes the PvP aspect of this game, I feel like they just want "danger", not PvP. They have been hurting PvP slowly, updates by updates, I think it's sad, and i'd like a tdm game mode without any commendation, just for new players and for veterans to learn and have fun.
I agree. From a pvp player since the very beginning. I know rare won't accomadate us like they do pve players. The games pve player base is much larger than its pvp base. So there isnt any point in putting much effort into helping the pvp players. Its sad. Cause that will be their downfall.
I tried to do this and I just couldn’t complete it since I had no crew mates but I was just getting spawn camped by the same person I barely do pvp and he said he was friendly but then kept killing me I have no problem with pvp in the main map but hunter’s cry was a pve experience
I'm surprised they didn't learn their lesson with the shrouded adventure. It was so hard to find another crew to hunt the ghost who didn't want to sink you instead of shanty with you
I joined and the whole server was fighting each other. I just shot off to each lighthouse, activated the beacon then climbed to the top. Took about 30 minutes with no one cooperating. The next server I joined everyone was in an alliance and the event took about 5 minutes.
This would definitely be a good TDM though and one that would help people get better with their pvp.
After reviewing your feedback, we’re making a number of changes to our current Adventure, ‘A Hunter’s Cry’, to ensure a more consistently welcoming environment for players. Most notably, from 2pm UTC tomorrow, each trip into the Sea of the Damned will involve two crews at most.
So while some crews may approach 'A Hunter's Cry' alone, others will go into it alongside one other Adventure-seeking crew. As this smaller multi-crew experience and other careful adjustments take effect, the time limit for completion will also be increased to one hour.
Lmao what a useless change. So instead of a group of crews getting slammed. Only one will? You guys are garbage I swear.
I actually did the whole quest immediatly when it first came out, everyone was just trying to do the puzzle at that point and no one attacked anyone. Later my friends friend was trying to complete it but was dying over and over again. I was kinda shocked because I didn't even know we could hit eachother. Needless to say I'm glad I got it done prior to all the killing.
I had crews obsessed with just getting things done, two other groups of turbo speed runners. It was great, but I was left behind lol
Yup. Had one guy that kept texting, "TDM?" "TDM on the fort?" "TDM on your ship?" "TDM please?"
I'm not a PvP'er, because I suck at it (arthritis) but felt bad for him. The thirst is strong with this adventure. And I can't blame them though, PvP'ers will always be PvP'ers.
Rare should really have like an insiders program where they listen to the people who play, and then make changes/fixes based on the feedback...
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The very first time my and my crew played this Adventure, by the time we had sailed to tavern from the portal it had already completed and we were sent straight to Ramsey. It was so disapointing after waiting so long. Whats "better" is that we still got all of the deeds for it, we just need to kill a ghost ship.
So, we loaded it up again and went back through and this time we were the first there. There was no explination as to what to do or anything. The only reason we knew what to do is becuase its the same mechanic as in the Pirates Life tall tale. However, it still took us and the other crews that spawned in almost half an hour to complete becuase while beacons were there (both the small and the big) the larger beacons refused to light up several times. One of our team would run through lighting the small beacons while the others positioned the lighthouse beams. But it didn't work they just wouldn't light. Eventually just as we gave up the Adventure seemed to move on and wander started talking and we could finally talk to merik to "save him".
Cus thats just it. Its not just the gameplay, even the story was underwelming. I mean you're sent to exactly where you need to be to find and save Merik by Ramsey, and after making sime bridges to somewhere you could have canon'd to (if not for invisible walls) they just give up and let you have him. No fight, they are just standing there behind another invis wall (which you can jump over XD) and let you "rescue" him. Then he say he is just gonna stay dead and give you a letter for Serik. And... THATS IT?!?!?!? Thats rubbish. You don't do anything. You just show up. Its a waste of time.
If they had added the ability to capture forts and raise your crews flag at the fort and it generate resources for you that would have been cool; making it like power plants and other resource nodes from Fallout 76 where you pay a bit of gold to capture it; have to defend fron npc/ player attacks and you lose it once you log.
I tried it once and everyone one was on a team for the lighthouse part but right as I tried to climb the tower it went into total mayhem lol
Really the wasted potential point is the biggest thing I see all the time with this game aswell. This game could be much bigger and better. I really don't understand what they were thinking.
I got caught with my pants down thinking this would be like a tall take and got absolutely SCHMACKED.
You're definitely reasonating with me on this one, myself and the players around me all feel the same way, and it almost feels obvious? I'd love to be a fly on the wall at some of the meetings and discussions at Rare!
For what it's worth, an instanced pvp zone like this would be a great idea - especially with the instant respawns. Once this adventure is done Rare should really bring this in as a stable feature.
However... 'Adventure' is the main draw of the game, not the pvp. Sailing your ship, following maps to buried treasure, fighting skeletons, ferrying cargo (very zen), battling ghost ships and phantom fleets, megs and krakens, forts and fishing, Tall Tales, having fun with your crew ... by comparison the pvp is merely the leftover bits and bobs that Rare didn't know what to do with. Had I been told that Sea of Thieves was all about (a) getting sunk, (b) sinking someone else, or (c) going to extreme lengths to avoid getting sunk ... I can't imagine I would ever have bought this game. That's not how it was sold to me, and certainly not how the game was during Hungering Deep, Cursed Sails or even the Thrones. I sincerely doubt, had this event launched back in the earlier days of the game, that we would have had so many people determined to ruin the experience for others.
As it stands, The Hunter's Cry - much like Shrouded Deep before it, Falcore highlighted the problems in his own stream at the time - is a microcosm of everything wrong with the pvp in Sea of Thieves. Because you can attack other players in the game somehow means you must. I can't imagine what 'differences' we had that urgently 'needed settled' when I was simply trying to catch one of every fish. There's little enough reason to attack a ship and precious little reason for others to fight back. Once some random ship decides to attack, that's it! Falcore described it himself: kill them and they respawn, sink them and they come back, there's no getting rid of them, leaving your only option to quit and try another game on another server.
Ranked matchmaking or forced migration on sinking would improve the experience immeasurably: in the first instance you're bound to meet players who play your way, whilst in the second I can continue my adventure after a battle without somebody coming back for revenge for a fight they started.
That is so true.. Me and my friend completed this adventure first time yesterday and even though there were no PvP pirates, there were annoying trolls that blasted old eurodisco music and did nothing to help us and we had to mute everyone. Second time, today, when we went to do the adventure again to help our other friend we immediately got attacked and killed and sinked. We fought them back but it didn't mean anything because of the instant respawn. We changed server in hope to get the adventure done but there were PvP'ers again.. This time we had one of us teasing the killers and two of us lighting the beacons and doing the stuff.. It took a awile and we died many many times but we managed to complete it. Not a great experience! I have to say this was the worst adventure for me, just because other players completely ruined everything. PvP is okay in the *main world* but not like this..
KING OF THE HILL! That's freakin GENIUS! Is someone pitching that to Rare? The sweats would lose their minds over something like that! XD
It was fun RPing as a Dark Bretheren member and wait for people at the top and try to stop them saving Merick
I am so lucky I was able to beat this on my first attempt with actually-cooperative crews.
sea forts are great for getting gold while solo slooping and for getting tons of basic supplies, it's why you almost always see reapers hit one when they first spawn in
they're also the fastest way to get order of souls stuff but that's more the fault of the faction being outdated
To his final point: It is ironic how Rare accidently created a fun and addicting TDM while trying to create a fun Co-Op adventure.
probably the greatest adventure so far. have not had any of these problems apart from people not knowing what to do and thus failing. this was great every time..
i wouldnt have a problem if the people who want to tdm would just ask "hey, do you want to tdm" before going all out, and if the other person says no, then just hopping to a different version of the twisted tavern much like server hopping. i think rare should release a hotfix that will either turn off pvp, or better yet, just make the adventure solo, because we dont really need 5 different crews, because this can be done solo. not to mention that pvp/spawn camping here isnt the only way to ruin the experience. some people might just stay in the lighthouses and purposely point it somewhere else so nobody can finish the adventure
Was considering doing the adventure for once but I won't since it's this bad. Thanks for the heads up, beautiful buccaneer!
The actual adventure was fun, the multiplayer part was awful
Huh, I had no idea it was that bad.
I did this adventure in 7 minutes...and everyone ignored me as I climbed the spire...
Beyond the stupidity for Rare's decision to allow multiple crews into this adventure ...
It could've very well been a single crew to complete. It could've had a better "BOSS BATTLE" ending or *something*. It could've been so much more.
Rare are insisting with these strange adventures that your time should be spent "forced" for a very time-expensive and limited crossing (with other players) as a necessary evil to complete things with. I couldn't even finish the one adventure with the Megalodons because we spent four hours crossing the seas to fight the stinkin' things, then were told "Hey, you need *five* people to play the song." - I never earned that adventure's reward.
I WAS PISSED. They wasted my time.
As I came home from work and wanted to play the Adventure I've already heard everyone saying how bad it is and they don't want to do it.
I was like... hmmm why tho?
I loaded in, started the adventure, and I was like hmmm what could go wrong?
Then I heard the Pirate Lord say "Ill bring some other crews to help you"
And I was like, YEP that's gonna be ruining EVERYTHING
Could even have kept the phantoms by making everyone in the instance a part of the same "team" with team killing or friendly fire disabled.
I am gonna take this opportunity to thank the crews that were in my sessions who kept the greifers busy so losers like me could do the quest !
it took me 3 servers to get the quest done
THE QUEST ITSELF WAS AMAZING
@Goofygigabite i never said anything about grinders...
in their defense: as has already been stated your video on why PVE servers would be hard to implement (named [will put in later]), even if you just turned off freindly fire a lot of things would need to be reworked so that other player find a way to still bully you, like for example hijacking a lighthouse. that said, definetley easier than in the main game, all things considered
When I joined we the Adventure, most of the crews were trying to punish PVPers there and only one crew was able to work on the adventure. We ended up running out of time.
When me and my friend first did it the whole server came then formed a alliance with them there’s line 6 sloops including us
I was literally spending 90% of this adventure screaming at my crew not to light up every player/player ship that they saw
This adventure set is the second nail in the sea of thieves coffin, the first one was the delay on season seven...
The crew that came before us finished the adventure, we only had to deliver the letter and THEN fight the 3 Ghost Ships. Really Anti-climactic. TDM happened on our 2nd try, but I can see this seperate instance would be great for dedicated PVP, instead of Server hopping.
I don't blame Rare, I blame the spawn-killers. They know exactly what they are doing.
Their having fun. Sry ur pve didn't go well... Cry more.
@@RomeEmpire123 Enjoy your "fun" when it continues to drive people away from the game.
@@Fitzwalrus06 pve continues to drive us pvp players away from the game as well... try again i guess
This adventure is the worst one. Sure I didn't encounter any toxic players when I did the main thing and then came back again for ghost ships but it was a drive to go save Merrick and in the end you just freeded him to stay dead and give an emotional letter to his wife who just didn't give a damn.
As someone who is new to mnk this is an extreme help because I can just tdm people to improve my overall pvp combat so I personally think that this is one of the best game modes apart from arena that rare has ever put out
Yep
The idea itself isn't bad.
Just the implementation. I and many others are all for having MORE of these sorts of experiences. Events that push Multiple crews together to work together is amazing and could be in the future used from some pretty cool battles.
But- In saying that. Considering the kind of mentality a lot of SoT's Community also has. Overlooking the fact players can still damage one another was a recipe for disaster.
I got really lucky when I did it in that I got all people that just wanted to get it done. But that was also the day the adventure began, so the novelty was still fresh
It’s simple have adventures like this where you go through the portal to the sea of the damned turn pvp off any that tries to troll gets automatically kicked and can’t join back the only pvp that needs to be in the game needs to be in adventure not adventures
In this adventure the argument "It's Sea of Thieves not sea of friends" doesn't hold much water when it come to this adventure because there isn't a lot of thieving to be done.
I will tell you exactly why I believe Rare implemented the adventure they way they did.
If they turn off friendly fire between crews, the PvE server discussion would go crazy! They would be demonstrating that they absolutely have the ability to simply turn PvP off. If PvErs saw this, they would be out with their pitchforks and torches.
Today they announced that they will be reducing the ship count to two, rather than five.
You’re missing one group from that instance. My friend and I have been using the adventure to steal cannonballs off other peoples boats
Also get the phantom balls
us Insiders tried to make them aware the whole time but they just didn’t listen. this one is on Rare
I’m not “griefing the adventure” I’m simply roleplaying as the kidnappers
I know like making it a team based thing was kind of stupid but it gets worse he says hes staying dead so he doesn't get his family harmed but but they can still threaten his family
For my part, I just play with my pro player friend, he spawn kill angry player and I’m doing the quest.
I am glad Rare is fixing this. Tomorrow there should be a fix for this including a max of 2 crews there.
Somehow managed to get it done despite having a brig sailing around sinking and spawn camping people and a Galleon crew on the docks with tons of food killing anyone trying to enter one of the lighthouses
Even though I helped another crew during my try, we got insulted and spawn camped during the same try and completed the adventure only a few minutes before the game over. At least we only had one crew of griefers running with blunderbusses on our deck instead of multiple.
Okey so... Imagine entering this with no loot, you do an arena match but placed in a "damned" version of the map and whoever takes first, second and third place gains loot to sell. So it's a PvP encounter with chances of winning something that "matters" in adventure mode.