SMOKE ON!!! - Building A Totally Overkill Smoke System From Scratch
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How about in an upcoming episode checking-out the Burning Man site again? I am interested if those folks restored the site to it's original condition. And I really hope you are going to do another low and slow to Oshkosh this year.
You can use a needle valve that goes in the line before the injector to adjust the flow rate. A spray pattern (instead of just a flow of oil) out of the injector that is pependicular to the exhaust flow will improve the smoke and oil use. Looks great ! You will Love it !
I already have one on there! I ordered first thing after I finished shooting this video 🤙
Automotive Industry: Lets put a filter behind the filter to make sure our exhaust gas is as clean as possible.
GA: *pours oil into the lead exhaust gasses*
Leave it with the horn!!! It’s hilarious. Be honest how much did you smile when you pressed the button and smoke was coming out while the horn was blasting.
This.
Yup… this… sounds cool looks cool is cool.
It is pretty fun from inside the plane, the horn breaks squelch on my headsets so it’s pretty funny
@@TrentonPalmer I say put it on the three pos switch, so you can do one or other or both
Love the project videos these are awesome. For future tank builds it can be helpful instead of clamping the tube with vice grips to secure a balloon to that tube. The balloon will inflate as you pressurize the tank but would pop long before you can over pressurize it and you can let it sit for a period of time and come back and see if the balloon has deflated any telling you that you have a leak to look for.
Great technique. I use this for testing aircraft fuel tanks regularly. But also keep temperature changes in mind. If you pressurize the tank and balloon when it's hot and later check for leaks when it's cold, the balloon will look like it's lost pressure.
Really inspiring! Just a guy with a Kitfox developing new skills and sharing with the aviation community. Thank you for all you do.....
Much appreciated!
Instead of blocking he vent for pressure testing, put a balloon on there. It's a safety for overpressuring plus keeps constant pressure for longer while you're looking for pinholes. Just went through this same process for a fuel header tank.
Just in case you ended up inverted you could use a tank vent like we use on our sprint cars it uses a small ball bearing that closes when inverted.
I put my smoke oil pump firewall forward. That way if there is a leak you won't be spraying oil under pressure in the cockpit.
Only time back purge is 100% required is when it is before the turbo or engine air intake, Otherwise you have to make sure to go back in and clean it as you can get oxidation that can flake off in a large enough chip to damage the turbo. For a exhaust tip, the only risk is a little more oxidation on the back side of the weld. Or on headers as the oxidation from the back side can cause stress risers and cracking with the vibration/heat cycling. One other thought you could of used Pro Seal on the inside of the tank to make sure there is no leaks. And the tank vent needs to go outside the plane and have a check valve that will not allow it to leak upside down. If you flip over on a hard landing you don't want to be sitting there with the oil draining out.
Also probably not a bad idea to have a inertia switch to turn off the pump incase of a crash.
you know that Square space is coming when Trent starts to smile!!
My smoke button is on the stick i wanted it that way from back in my crop dusting days, after 27 years dusting I don’t think I ever would find the switch up on the dash.
By the way put you some smell in it, I have put everything from Texas BBQ sent in it all the way to which is one of my favorites banana pudding smell, it’s just an all just like you’re using but it has scent in it for a candle.
I'd recommend you put the smoke on its own individual switch. There may be times you want the smoke on while maneuvering with hands-on throttle and stick. Won't be able to do that as easily if it's on a momentary switch, even if it's close to the throttle.
Excellent idea as a way to bring a wind sock where ever you go. Also in congested situations good for visibility issues. I also wonder why pilots don't put streamers on their wings for a visual cue of the wing entering stall.
Putting a nozzle further up on the exhaust, just under where it exits the cylinder, will help burn the oil more completely. You'll have less oil on the belly and thicker smoke!
Another fantastic video!
Thanks!!!
I didn’t want to put it in before the turbo, that just didn’t seem like it would be good for the turbo, and this was the cleanest option downstream of the turbo. It seems to be smoking pretty good, so we will see if I change my mind but for now I’m thinking I will leave it as is
@@TrentonPalmer I forget that you have the turbo on there, makes sense. If there's no other way to move it up more, the 45 degree nozzle will help immensely.
Some airshow pilots added different chemicals to change the smell! Mennen used to give Big Ed Malher after shave so his smoke smelled like after shave.
I have been involved in air shows for over 30 years, how have I never heard of this! That's hilariously great.
@@JoshuaNyhus If you haven't heard of Big Ed Malher you haven't been around airshows! His plane said "Thanks I need that !" painted on the wings!
@@jhaedtler I looked him up. Looks like he was an east coast flyer, we're west coast, and he passed before my time around shows. But great story and info, love learning new things.
@@JoshuaNyhus I'm an old fart. Today's airshow pilots do NOT impress me. I was raised around pilots that were, Not sure what words to use! Not over snappy, precise.Total control. Duane Cole in his T-Craft. Would take off fly to 1500 AGL, shut the engine down and do a complete airshow and land and park the plane where he started from! Today's show pilots need to watch more old school airshow pilots!
6:21 made me smile :) Great video Trent! Love to see all the progress shots, looks like it turned out really well
Totally justified a buddy of mine I fly with has smoke and he is constantly identifying his position with it… Besides, it’s cool
😍Great Job Trent. Its fun having smoke.
The first thing I thought when hearing the horn while running smoke was that it sounded like a stuka. i can't seem to stop laughing long enough to figure out how I feel about that.
I love watching your videos and have felt like you give a family vibe . Most of the early videos had your wife in them and lately I have missed seeing her . Though if she is anything like mine was , she freaking HATES cameras unless she is behind it . I enjoyed seeing her again and congratulations on your smoker , is it dialed in yet . Please stay safe up there !...!...!
Well-thought-out upgrades! Very impressed with you TIG welding an aluminum project...and a tank at that! Well done! Love the channel! Best to the family and thanks for sharing!
Building your skillset the welding is serving you well. We need to see more of Hailey. You both have fun on the ground and in the air.
Proud of you!
The Patey brothers would laugh at how easy this is, but I’m sure they’d be proud watching you do this.
Mike would have definitely found a way to make this job require a CNC machine.😂
@@bradleydobie3891 absolutely 😆
Hey I'm pretty sure Mike and them is helping him
Questions for you, how wide of relief cuts did you leave to compensate for the bend radius? Do you specify bend radi when ordering from SendCutSend?
You need to make a trip down to Florida and make some Airplane content with Cleetus McFarland at his new airport!! The Freedom Fox needs to go land at the Bald Eagle Airfield!!
the car horn kills me. horn must stay 😂
You should’ve gone all out and made the smoke system able to put out like three or more colors of smoke.. Never just match your friends.. always leave them feeling inadequate 😅
Nice landing lights…
Kinda close to the leading edge at high AOA, isn’t it?
Let’s test the smoke machine and see if we can direct smoke in front of the lights…. To see if they are working like speed brakes, disturbing lift about 2X the width of the lights themselves….
Placement of the oil input into the exhaust pipe matters…
The closer to the exhaust valve, the hotter the EGT is… better for evaporating the oil.
If you see a lot of oil all over the plane, and a weak smoke show….
Test the oil nozzle for its spray pattern… a finer spray may help…
Dripping oil into the exhaust pipe where the EGT has cooled quite a bit may not be evaporating a lot of oil…
Summary, to get smoke… small droplets and high EGTs where the oil is important…
Safety note, a gear pump can build enough pressure to blow the hose off downstream…. 😃
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//42 spilled the beans on this one! I had a feeling this was coming
GREAT project. I would definitely get a 3 way switch! !! !!!
Here we goooooooo 🤘
I think I'd take it off the horn button. I don't think I'd do a 3 way switch, but maybe you can do a button or trigger on your control stick
You could replace the horn with something that kinda rattles... "Daddy, that plane is farting smoke!"
SCNR 🙂
Send cut send is the shit. The 3d2a community loves them because they are one of the few companies that doesn’t stick their nose in your business
For when welding those relief cuts. To help bridge the gap, use a backer ( for Alu - use Stainless). This will also help keep the weld flush
PUT THE GUARD BACK ON YOUR GRINDER!! As a journey welder of ten years I can honestly say that I have never needed to remove the guard. One little slip and that thing will remove your fingers. I don't know about a kitfox but I can't fly my 172 with no fingers.
Anyway, your welds look fine. At least the ones you showed us 😂
That extra length of pipe is going to reduce your cruise speed by 1/2 mph and increase your take off roll by at least 7”. But I guess the new prop fixes that…😂 Great episode. Love the ingenuity.
6:40 you can always design it to key together instead of all the bends. Would be more welding but would be easier on you.
I've had smoke on my Rans S7-S (N29TD)for about 5 years....I love it I'm glad you joined the "show off club.
I've found that the flapper-type oil pumps will reverse, but the flapper wheel itself only works thru a few reversals before the flaps start sheering off. Otherwise, they're very reliable.
Very cool project, I love the reverse to fill and auto shutoff system.. like an Extra 300. Do you have any parts links? I was surprised to see it working so well at the exhaust tip.. I assumed it would be better injecting the oil higher up in the exhaust. Is there a reason you didn’t inject it before the muffler?
Thats some good welding. I got an Ali tank built by a professional welder and it leaked all over the seams, got patched repeatedly!
Anyway, any chance you could put down the parts list for that build?
Pump and injector nozzle especially.
The RAF Rad Arrows when they have finished their displays are generally low level and heading all over the place. Red 1 (The Leader) smokes while flying away so the others can find/see him so they can form up on him again. If the pros do it, it make sense to do the same, especially flying in the wild with others.
Nice job on the new project. looking forward to different colored smoke... or a dukes of hazard horn🤣
Since you can weld aluminum and have a shear shop that cuts shapes for you. A pair of aerodynamic aluminum rod or small storage boxes would look cool on the wing struts.
Nice ending shot, drone tracking about perfect.
Pretty good welds for a rookie. I never really mastered welding so good on you.
Hello from Minnesota!! Outstanding!!
Besides that "It just looks cool" Nailed it!! Great Videos!!
Watch the clamps on the push lock fittings, they're designed to not have clamps and the clamps can actually cut into the hose.
SO sick!
Super cool Trent. Great job on the fabrication.
Lights are working great. You should hire out to the military with that smokescreen, that is a lot of smoke. I was looking at the exhaust pipe, I think you should put an angle cut on the back side for a little scavenging action, just a thought.
This video was really interesting and you didn't let it drag on for too long, great stuff. I was really curious as to your Tig welding setup and was hoping for a short description thereof but I understand not wanting to promote certain products if that had anything to do with it being left out. A good ac/dc machine can really help with the learning curve and I was impressed with those welds on such thin material. Don't use menthol smoke, the government is trying to band all menthol smoke products for all the wrong reasons. My attempt at humor, sorry.
My welder is just an everlast 250ex I got off Facebook marketplace, it’s not the most high tech machine but does plenty for me!
Another great video, Trent. For a beginner, your aluminum welding is A1.
Have fun cleaning the oil off the belly of the plane, Its pretty normal to get residual oil all over the aircraft, I have helped a friend at one of his airshows he has put on and the oil gets everywhere over the aircraft
Really like the welding content. Excellent job!
Nice piece, thanks Trent.
At 1st I didn't like the horn & 3 way switch! Now I say boost the horn with a larger decibel horn! Now you're easier to both see & hear!
They have AN fittings with a Schrader valve. They work well for testing.
YESSIRRRRRRR ! 💨
Nice job, impressive! As an aside did you know that you can make a tank using double folded joints ? Regards, Jim the Brit
We wanna see you over fly johnson creek with that smoke man!
It's like an old buddy's Hooptie smokes and horn letting people know to look at it go. 🤣
btw one of my favorite videos of yours- need more of these types. maybe make another plane with lots of mods?
Love all of your videos. Love that Kitfox. Keep the videos coming!!
When I was welding. I cried. No told me. It hurts. Sun glasses
Man, I need an experimental, lol. Awesome project, I love it!
Trent, your an awesome watch.. thank you sir.. i always enjoy and look forward to your content.
I appreciate that!
That makes me feel better with my old land rover 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That is why the ag pilots use it! sadly the oil prices are out of site! Check your cement suppliers. Ask for their 13 weight cement oil!
I've always wanted to do that, but so far only have the "smoke oil" switch in the panel!
Hey buddy! ANother cracking video!
You've done good on those welds! I was the same when i started learning MIG welding, butthen i just figured it all out!
Be well and Vly Safe!
ADam
Hej Trent. What a great hands on video. I know aluminium welding is ultra tricky but you seem to be doing so very well. I guess I could research "aeroplane smoke effect" but what is the oil source.? Vegetable? Easily dispersible in the atmos? Hej, it was great to see Hayles in the video. Maybe she likes being away from the spotlight but i like seeing her. I'm sure she has a lot to offer. Is she interested in getting a flying licence? I am your wingman --- I'm on your shoulder every video. Thank you.
Doppler effect was cool, could you have made the tank from 032 or 040 to save a bit of weight?
*_Welding tips and tricks on YT. Awesome channel. I've learned a ton from watching his videos and he has the must have Tig Finger which I got and it's worth it._* 👍👍👍👍
I’ve watched so many of his videos and bought his stubby cup kit and tig finger 👍
HI Hailey!!! Glad to see and hear you 👋 🙃
I started with a rubber hose to the nozzle but it melted. Installed a stainless reinforced teflon line from aircraftspecialty/tsflightlines. The spray nozzle from smoke-system-helper increased the smoke considerable. Smoke on!
That's a pretty good and handy feature!
After watching a lot of Superfast Matt it was quite the weird crossover to see Send Cut Send here 😂
OK the smoke and the horn are cool and fun, but let's be all honest and all here:
Avgeeks dig the smoke!!! Neither the Smoke or the Horn serve any useful purpose in the aviation world....but they are kinda cool in the 'messin' around' world of backcountry/bush flying...
I couldn’t weld if my life depended on it probably not satisfactory anyway, but I do know enough about it that even though you didn’t show a close-up that looks pretty darn good for aluminum welding, which is very very very difficult - just FYI for anyone who doesn’t know much about welding.
The horn flyby sounds rather Ju-87 esk.
Nice work!
Any weight and balance implications?
Looks awesome ❤.
Did nick ever finish the build of the Phoenix fox ?
It’s very fun definitely great for safety and very messy
So awesome!!!
Like the smoke and new lights. Did you get in a close call that made you do this? Just curious. Makes sense to do this!
No close call, just finally getting around to projects I’ve put off for years
I still think you need an ooga horn 😀 Good job 👍
You and @CleetusM need to get together and go flying. that would be epic!
Wondering why you’d have to send that out to have cut when you’ve got a cardboard template. Just use a grinder with cutting wheel
If it held you can weld is a brilliant saying!
I thought so too when I first heard it, wish I could say I thought of it but I definitely stole that one! Haha
Good job Trent..
Good job on the welding. Now, put some protection on your legs next time. I was TIG welding with my new to me welder with shorts and boat shoes, no socks. I had the setting too hot and had slag or something fall right down in my shoe and roll around. You will not be able to get that shoe off fast enough, trust me on this one. Other than that, excellent job.
Ah yes, the welder's dance - I know it well.
I’m 40 seconds in and want to start now. Thanks Trent 😂
❤ that’s awesome now you gotta start doing hearts for your mate✌️👍
That is pretty sweet, I might just have to add this mod
Love the reason safety! Ha! Sounds like baby Harley rider trying to convince people that loud pipes save lives. Lol. Nice try. It's just cool and that's ok. I do like the idea of laying smoke for wind reference though. Great idea. I'm gonna use that one myself.
You’re not allowed to make it so the smoke comes out without the horn. It’s hilarious 😂. Your plane literally rips ass. And it’s proud of it.
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