Just want to put it out there that I work at a GM dealership and we rarely ever have to work on these 2.7s, this could be a seriously good refresh to the canyon/colarado
I've been waiting a long time for a video about the new ZR2. Thank you. Really hope the embargo has been lifted as I see that you guys are the only ones with a video like this about the zr2 ❤.
@@OneNationUnderGod. He did refer to driving it when he said "you guys are the only ones with a video like this"... He was referring to it being tested/driven, which TFL did not do with the Bison prototype, so I don't understand why you mentioned that. Next time pay attention before you reply to a comment. 🤣😂🤣
I had an 2003 ZR2. I loved the truck, other than it was underpowered and thirsty. The 4.3 made around 190hp and I only got around 16 mpg with it, my 2003 6.0 powered work van gets 13 mpg full of tools, and would run away from that ZR2. I always felt that the 4.8 v8 would have been perfect in that truck. This new ZR2 is everything that wasn't and more. I'm still waiting on the new Ranger and Tacoma before I make a decision, but the new ZR2 is pretty sweet. I haven't always been a fan of gas turbo engines for durability, but it's what we have now. My wife has a Mercedes GLC300 with a turbo 4 cylinder. I think it's rated at 250 hp and 280 ft lbs of torque, but it makes full torque at 1300 rpms. The car jumps and has plenty of power all the way to triple digits and is fun to drive. I would imagine that 310 hp and 430 ft lbs will make the ZR2 feel like it has a 6.0 v8, perfect.
cant wait to see this thing on Ed's ramp test ;) hopefully GM will start phasing out the 1980's Rancho shock addiction they have for all their other off road trucks and start putting usable shocks like this on them.
The Multimatic DSSVs on the ZR2s are a very high end shock. They quite literally cost 10-15x more for a set than a set of Ranchos do. Ranchos, etc. are still what you're going to see on budget off-road trims like Trail Boss.
GM has hit a home run with this new Colorado/ Canyon! Looks amazing on the outside, and the new interior trim’s really elevate the quality feel of these vehicles. 👍 Also, does anyone know the name of the song playing at 5:30???
Quality feel? I've sat in one at the 23 NY Auto Show and it's plastic AF all over the inside. Looks much better than the old one but I wouldn't say it's a quality product. Plus it's really tight on the inside. At 6'4" no adult could sit behind me in the back.
You would like to hope so but we will have to see what the long-term durability is that's what I'm worried about with the new Tacoma yeah they look fancy & all this shit but most people just want a truck that works reliably Chevy n' Ford seem to have a problem doing that, hopefully Toyota doesn't join them with making the turbo 4-cylinder mistake 🤔🤦🤷
@@TermlessHGW You realize that the average height in the US is like 7 inches shorter than you right? Yeah it sucks. Every other truck in its segment is roughly the same. That's why it's considered a "mid-size" truck.
Probably the best looking truck Chevy has made in decades.. I was instantly a fan just from the computer generated images. More particularly the ZR-2 but they all look damn good to my eye. Cool modern interior, bold exciting modern brutal exterior, and the price point is exceptional considering everything else in the market that dealers can’t sell worth a damn right nowZ
Oh and I forgot to mention the paint options… they’re the best on any vehicle in the market right now. Along with some of the colors you see with the Jaguar lineup, I also quite liked the bronco’s paint choices as well. The colors for this new Colorado just complement the vehicle so well, I have no idea how I will be able to decide but that blue is pretty. I love them all even the silver one just looks different. The blue the forrest green/harvest the nitro yellow the sand they all look incredible.
i have to say nice review. also i think you sell the last zr2 short. it is by far better than it's closest competitor off road. when you do the typical upgrades it's way better. that steering change looks good. they also redesigned the tie rods. they look more substantial. can't wait to drive one.
TFL made a good point on this headlight situation. Being most if not all vehicles come with auto headlights, as long as you have that selected you never really need to touch a nob. I very rarely touch my light nob on my Ram. No need too. It comes on when its dark, turns off when its light. I think its a good idea they just stuck it there. Less parts.
Have one ordered about 3 weeks ago, can't wait. It's been almost 10 years since getting a new vehicle. Was so torn on which color, picked the Glacier Blue, tho this yellow was my second choice.
I have a 2019 ZR2. It's my daily driver and 'light duty' wheeler. I have an older Jeep Cherokee I use on trails where 'some body damage may occur'. So while I can appreciate the offroad upgrades to the zr2 I am happy to keep my 2019. The bigger tires would be 'nice' but much of the upgrades are geared towards 'high speed baja' type wheeling. There isn't a lot of that available around here and it's not my 'thing'. I suspect most Zr2's won't see Baja racing type trails. The new 'trail boss' looks like a better choice for me, I would miss the selectable front/rear lockers but the automatic rear locker would be just fine for the trails I do with this truck.
Great video shots! As a prior owner of a 2017 ZR2 diesel the new truck appears to be vastly improved. I sold my ZR2 in 2019 to get into a Tacoma TRD Pro. I regretted the move, it was a step backwards. I love the muscular styling, 33” tires, standard tow hitch, new shocks, cast iron lower control arms, new interior, wider stance, etc. I’m going to wait on placing my 2023 ZR2 order until I read a review of the upcoming 2024 Toyota TRD Pro hybrid. My only negative regarding the new ZR2 is the dismal fuel mileage from the 4-cylinder 2.7 turbo engine.
The Tacoma's hybrid is likely going to be like the Tundras... about power and not fuel economy. So I actually think the new Tacoma could put out more HP/Torque but I doubt the fuel economy is all that different. Maybe 1-2MPG better. The real question about the new Tacoma is if Toyota will give it a front locker, proper tires, and do any kind of high clearance bumpers. The prior TRD Pros, and the Tundra TRD Pro, simply don't round out the package completely. They put really good shocks and then do nothing else. I hope that changes but I doubt it.
@@PeakDecline A newbie to trucks here. But since tacoma is smaller than Tundra, isn't the hybrid MPG going to be at least 25? I was reading that it could be lexus's hybrid system...? I could be wrong though...
When editing the video, you jumped around quite a bit in the beginning. It would have been nice to get to the comparison quicker. Also you start to discuss the front end of the truck and how it's been updated and changed. And then the next scene you start to discuss suspension. It would have been nice if you'd started and completed the whole front end section with skid plates and underneath and then move your way back to the suspension. Great video either way! Big fan!
Every review has mentioned the headlight switch being in the infotainment. I don’t see how this is a big deal. It’s not a switch most people use very often with the Auto setting, and it’s conveniently located at the top of screen at all times.
Not sure how people don't use it. I use mine CONSTANTLY. Just about every holiday here we have drive thru light show and they want headlights off. Bad rain with shining sun, I want my headlights on.
@@Sacapuntas69 that’s fair. But even then, it’s right there where you would have really easy access to it. I guess I think this is just reasonably thought out. I think much more controversial items have been moved into the screen than this in the past or by other manufacturers.
I put my headlight switch on Auto and never touch it. However, if I wanted to manually control the headlights, the controls are right there on the Colorado touch screen.
Great video, even though I'm not in the market for a smaller truck, as I love my 2018 V8 Coyote-powered supercrew F150, I think this small truck is really cool and looks fantastic, and I really enjoyed the production quality here, was a fun watch!
Waiting on the new Ranger and Tacoma before giving a verdict. It looks like the Ranger will have a much better engine (3.0 V6 400HP on the raptor) and even better suspension tech but probably for a higher price. The Tacoma will have the TRD Pro and Trailhunter versions but the last teaser is showing 31/32in wheels so Toyota will yet again lag behind in features off road capability from the factory. It will probably be as always a great option if you want to build it yourself though due to aftermarket support, and a great look. Then there is the Bison with the world's first 35s on a midsize (looks like Ford might want to respond with a performance or sasquatch package on the Raptor). My initial predictions is the following: Best for buying a low trim and building it out: Tacoma Best for performance: Ranger Raptor Best buy with good combination of off road performance from the factory at a decent price: Colorado ZR2. As for the Bison, considering that the useless joke of the Desert Boss package costs $10K for cosmetic shit, I am not holding my breath on the Bison pricing. It might cost 15K over the ZR2 just to move to slightly more lift, 35s and steel all around. Might as well buy the Raptor at that price (which fits 35s its been proven by the aussies) and have a much better engine for the same price or less and definitely at least the same off road capability. Not to mention I am pretty sure a lift will come for the ZR2 and allow 35s (albeit gearing will be an issue).
Fitting 35s isn't the same as a proper setup for 35s. Unless you regear then you've immediately nerfed any power advantage the Raptor might have over a ZR2 Bison. And in order to regear you're going to spend $2-$3K and completely blow out your warranty on probably the single most important thing on a truck besides the engine/transmission... the axles. I'm hoping Ford gives the Raptor 35s from factory when the Ranger arrives stateside. But the Aussie trucks are completely tuned around 33s. Hence they get smaller diameter shocks, weaker steering racks, etc. versus a Bronco Raptor.
Diffs you watch the build video from TFL truck on thre internals of that 2.7 V6? That motor will undoubtedly be very durable. Very strong internals. Ford EcoBoost engine has had its share of problems. Not to mention Broncos pulling tie rods out of there steering racks and CVs out of there diffs!
I'm still on the fence with GM quality. They look good and may be reliable for the next 75k miles. What happens after 100k miles? Will I have to pay for new transmission and new engine?
I feel the same when it comes to these smaller displacement GM trucks. Seems like a lot of money to take on that risk but I’ve always enjoyed American mid sized pickups more than the Japanese ones, so I’ll probably be picking up a ZR2 - YOLO, I guess.
That’s why I am waiting to see the all new 2024 Tacoma TRD Pro first. With Toyota you get QDR (Quality, Dependability, Reliability) and excellent resale value.
@@mini2nut67 Toyota is no better then any other truck. Probably has had more problems then any other, rust, transmission and motor problems, poor design and uncomfortable seating. Get some better from Ford and Chevy!
@@mini2nut67 not true, look at the new Tundra, blowing up turbos, not to say the old Tacomas were garbage, rusting and bent frames, bad motors etc. Toyota used to make reliable cars back in the 90s and 00s, but thats about it
I’ve always been impressed with the way Chevy approached the ZR2. I too have a gripe with Toyota on why not a front locker. After reading a lot of these comments I realize that the ZR2/checy customers really are catered to in the sense that they really take performance of these trucks in stock form seriously. It is very interesting in the wheeling community. Toyota people are forced by Toyota to build their vehicles whereas Chevy people are mostly satisfied with their purchase. You also see this out on the trail. If and when I see a ZR2, it’s stock. I have friend that has a Colorado @scurdge2001 (and so do I)and he complains about Toyotas because they don’t have a front locker. But the Toyota guys ends up building their trucks way beyond the ZR2s capabilities. But the ZR2 crowd will buy the truck with the front locker….. but hardly use it. It’s fun to think about their customer base when you sit and analyze it. Anyways !!! Amazing video on of a wonderful product. 🔥🔥🔥 you certainly looked to be have a time of your life making this review. 💟👏🏽
Mustafa Haboglu 3 hours ago Forgot the best part, the duel lockers? These dual lockers are going to duel it out with Toyota on who's dual system is best ;-P
I'll need a longer bed option. Do these mid-size get substantially better MPG than full-sized trucks with both having the punchiest/strongest engines (my preference)?
Still near 100% if not more than that to justify the expense, absolutely. Does anyone actually drive their vehicle in the manner shown in this video? Obviously not. Making a far more robust short bed with larger tires and *HUGE* sidewalls has advantages in certain towing and trailering applications but as a stand alone work truck yes you are absolutely correct this is *NOT* the way to go for a work truck or daily driver plus Lowes Home Depot and back work. For combining fuel mileage with practicality the only truck I have ever seen attempt this is the Ford F150 Hybrid which obviously isn't going to be getting eye candy such as this so I guess no one is going to offer that as who wants an actually practical pickup truck, c'mon mister! Least of all from General Motors!
ZR2 should get worse mileage than the Z71 and same as the Trail boss (i think). This comes down to having a lift and the front air dam missing (on ZR2). Full size are surprisingly close to these, though I think the Z71 Colorado will probably get a bit more mileage than a Silverado. Colorado 5ft bed only and all Canyons are lifted with the HO engine…Colorado Z71 and Trail Boss can be flashed to the HO engine after purchase, if one wishes.
So funny to me people comparing this to the Raptor R. Both pointed for two different people. The RR is supposed to be quick. But the ZR2 is more off-roady. However they have about the same torque which really matters. If you want a fast truck get a TRX or a faster car. Don’t look for a fast midsize. The Chevy wins imo with the same amount or torque and much much more comfort features. Chevy ftw.
The Raptor R is faster than the TRX, and has 700 hp and 640 ft lbs of torque, the comparison will be the new Ranger Raptor when it hits our shores. I'm not sure that I agree that a ZR2 is more off road ready than a Raptor R, on the roads in this video, a Raptor R would run away from the ZR2. A Colorado ZR2 would have the advantage on tight slow trails because of it's smaller size, the Raptor and TRX are huge.
@@rts3613 nobody is racing small trucks on the street. There’s much better options. And false about the TRX and Raptor R. The Raptor is faster from a roll the TRX is faster from a stop. Been proven over and over.
@@ethenjordan2010 I never said anything about racing on the street, I said the Raptor R would walk away from the ZR2 on the roads in the video. But, people race anything they can, cars, trucks, boats, mopeds... People race what they have, it's about bragging rights. I've watched several drag races between the Raptor R and TRX. Most I've seen the Raptor R won, but some the TRX won and some were neck and neck. This is the one that stuck in my mind, because the Raptor R gapped the TRX when the TFL Trucks guys raced them ua-cam.com/video/_yKcneK265Q/v-deo.html. So, it's not proven.
Aux switches will be an option, I think. Great review! I have a hard decision between the new mid sized trucks coming from Chevy, Ford and Toyota! The ZR2, Ranger Raptor and new Tacoma all seem great!
0:40 - 1:15 mark. How tall are you brother? Is it me or does this truck seem rather small when you are standing next to it? Don't get me wrong. It's nice to have a decently sized truck for a change. Especially in todays automotive world when _everything_ seems to be growing exponentially in size. I remember when the BMW 3-Series was a standard sized sedan. Whereas now, the current BMW 3/4-Series is the size of an old 5 or 6-Series. Not to mention, we have VW Jetta's the size of [the former] Passat's, F-150's teetering on the commercial trucking side of the spectrum, Mini Coopers that ceased being _mini_ a long time ago and so forth. Honestly, I am surprised you don't need a CDL to own and operate some of the current trucks available on the market. Although, it it's ironic when you think of this conundrum using cell phones as the product. Initially they started out the size of a briefcase (my Father worked for the phone company and was one of the first group of individuals in the US helping to develop the cellular phone). Then the goal was to shrink your cell phone down to the smallest possible size. Whereas now, you have phones the size of tablets! It's absurd to say the least. Stay classy my friends.
Great review. Very interesting truck. Currently driving a 2022 Ram Bighorn 1500 (company vehicle) with the 3.6L. Debating on whether I want to buy it or get one of these. Retirement is approaching and I don't own a vehicle. Couple of interesting comparisons. The Ram is only about 200 lbs heavier based on curb weight and if the MPG coming out of the Colorado is correct the RAM wins in that category as well for similar HP (although the Colorado crushes it in torque).This definitely has better off road capability, but the RAM rides so sweet! What to do?
@@Jamalindaboxfulotit Now if I could only decide which one that is. I've had 6 GM trucks and good luck with them all. Just wish the 2.7 Turbo had more of a track record.
Waiting for the AT4 X Canyon. To see what it's interior looks like. My 22 ZR2 diesel does have a cheap interior. Wireless charging pad is to small for any modern phone! The upgraded payload and towing is welcome news. Great review!
17:23 What are you talking about? It’s a button away YOU DONT HAVE TO SEARCH FOR IT LIKE EVERYONES SAYING,,it’s that little round touch button on the main screen, my 02 Silverado has no option to even turn headlights off, It’s great Chevy makes it where you can EASILY control all this without searching for it ! I just bought a new Trail Boss Colorado,why does everyone say you got to search for the headlight etc, on the touch screen,,YOU DONT ITS RIGHT AT THE TOP
Great truck but not so great price when you could just build your own for a lot less money. Also can't do a a turbo 4 when there are still naturally aspirated options on the market.
If you’re buying a truck to go fast. You’re not going to get a fast one in a midsize. Get a fast hatch or something them. Torque numbers are the same which is really what matters. Not HP. The Chevy also has a much better interior.
What amazes me is how the only people who have these trucks. Are the people reviewing them. You try and order one of these and no dice. They basically are trying to do what jeep did. Roll out the top of the line then they don’t produce it. The reason for this, it’s to justify their sticker shock . Create a base of supporters then screw them until the following vehicle year and charge even more! Jeep did this with their Cherokee top of the line.
I tried to buy a 2023 Colorado or Canyon over the last week... There are 0 available within a 1000 mile radius... All are "in transit" with no eta available... I heard a rumor it's due to the massive mistake w the oil pans that they are fixing but... If you go to build your own on Chevy and then instead search local inventory you will see ... NOTHING available..
Not the oil pan. The delay was in getting approval from EPA and finalizing their MPG numbers. Lots of finished trucks sitting in, well, lots. Shipments have started now that EPA numbers are finalized but it'll take time to coordinate the glut of stuck trucks.
@@tyh6243 good to know... That said there was a reputable UA-cam automotive technician that showed a video highlighting a msg from Chevy to dealers not to sell to customers until they performed a procedure to fix a serious problem related to either the oil pan or something thereof... And the issue was caused during assembly due to a tool that was either out of calibration or malfunctioning... Anyways the video showed the official communication and it read very serious... Now for the life of me I can't find that video... The EPA thing seems reasonable but Chevy is not communicating w buyers and dealers are pretending to have them online when they don't... Many aren't showing "in transit" and many that are are in fine print and many not showing at all... I applied for pre approval and was approved (hard pull) all to come to find "it's in transit" w no eta... Same story everywhere... Now that hard credit pull was for nothing... Anyways I went ahead and bought a new Ranger Lariat...simply because there is absolutely no info coming out regarding timeline.
I was surprised by that, too. 35 psi and above. The team of journalists appeared to have blown out a number of tires during the trek and I believe high pressure contributed to the problem. They had the Colorado race team there for guidance so that's even more surprising. I get that they need higher PSI for the speeds they were running but even mid 20s could have helped smooth out the ride, increase tire hookup, and reduce rock cuts.
@@docholliday7548 JD Power gets paid by the companies, they’re pretty biased at times. Consumer Reports only uses customer feedback. They’re showing Ridgeline, Tacoma, Maverick as most reliable. Colorado/Canyon expected to still be at bottom.
Just want to put it out there that I work at a GM dealership and we rarely ever have to work on these 2.7s, this could be a seriously good refresh to the canyon/colarado
How about the 8-speed tranny?
My main worry is that 8spd transmission
Give it a few years…. Serious downgrade on the engine
It needs a
LS3 for more power and better mpg…. And yes my Camaro gets much better mileage
@@jonh0130 it is a new 8 speed transmission
The aerial shots of the truck in this are gorgeous. Some seriously amazing editing and producing on this video!
The previous Gen ZR2 was an absolute beast off road; the Gen 3 ZR2 is proudly carrying on that tradition!
Way to go, Chevy!!!
Great video! I'm a Tacoma owner and I love this new ZR2. I'm too cheap to buy a new vehicle but I do feel the pricing is pretty good for what you get.
I've been waiting a long time for a video about the new ZR2. Thank you. Really hope the embargo has been lifted as I see that you guys are the only ones with a video like this about the zr2 ❤.
TFL had a video on the Bison prototype a day or two ago.
Just waiting for the new Colorado Bison
@@OneNationUnderGod. They weren't driving it though lol
@@lunamaria1048 nobody said anything about driving it?!? Op was hoping for a video about it, not a video driving it 🤣😂🤣
@@OneNationUnderGod. He did refer to driving it when he said "you guys are the only ones with a video like this"... He was referring to it being tested/driven, which TFL did not do with the Bison prototype, so I don't understand why you mentioned that. Next time pay attention before you reply to a comment. 🤣😂🤣
I am a Ford man through and through. But this ZR2..... It's a homerun. Looks great. Performs great. Built right!
Great Job Chevy! I love it.
I had an 2003 ZR2. I loved the truck, other than it was underpowered and thirsty. The 4.3 made around 190hp and I only got around 16 mpg with it, my 2003 6.0 powered work van gets 13 mpg full of tools, and would run away from that ZR2. I always felt that the 4.8 v8 would have been perfect in that truck. This new ZR2 is everything that wasn't and more. I'm still waiting on the new Ranger and Tacoma before I make a decision, but the new ZR2 is pretty sweet.
I haven't always been a fan of gas turbo engines for durability, but it's what we have now. My wife has a Mercedes GLC300 with a turbo 4 cylinder. I think it's rated at 250 hp and 280 ft lbs of torque, but it makes full torque at 1300 rpms. The car jumps and has plenty of power all the way to triple digits and is fun to drive. I would imagine that 310 hp and 430 ft lbs will make the ZR2 feel like it has a 6.0 v8, perfect.
Wait for the Ranger Raptor, worth the wait at least for comparison
@@kadimsilahtar have you driven a base ranger?
I’m waiting for gym’s ho version with 350hp/450tq and 25mpg. Just a down pipe, cai and tune away.
@@RingerRacing I think he's referring to the new design 2024 Ranger and new Ranger Raptor. I'm not sure if anyone in the US has driven it.
@@rts3613 hope so. The current ranger is the worst new vehicle I’ve driven.
cant wait to see this thing on Ed's ramp test ;)
hopefully GM will start phasing out the 1980's Rancho shock addiction they have for all their other off road trucks and start putting usable shocks like this on them.
Same! Suspensiontuna always impresses!
The Multimatic DSSVs on the ZR2s are a very high end shock. They quite literally cost 10-15x more for a set than a set of Ranchos do. Ranchos, etc. are still what you're going to see on budget off-road trims like Trail Boss.
Best review on the ZR2 up to date! Thanks!
Amazing how you all can produce such a good video in a short amount of time. Great job.
GM has hit a home run with this new Colorado/ Canyon! Looks amazing on the outside, and the new interior trim’s really elevate the quality feel of these vehicles. 👍 Also, does anyone know the name of the song playing at 5:30???
Quality feel? I've sat in one at the 23 NY Auto Show and it's plastic AF all over the inside. Looks much better than the old one but I wouldn't say it's a quality product. Plus it's really tight on the inside. At 6'4" no adult could sit behind me in the back.
@TermlessGHM the small interior space is by design..that's how they push you into a full size truck.
bro. Quality and GM don't really go together.
You would like to hope so but we will have to see what the long-term durability is that's what I'm worried about with the new Tacoma yeah they look fancy & all this shit but most people just want a truck that works reliably Chevy n' Ford seem to have a problem doing that, hopefully Toyota doesn't join them with making the turbo 4-cylinder mistake 🤔🤦🤷
@@TermlessHGW
You realize that the average height in the US is like 7 inches shorter than you right? Yeah it sucks. Every other truck in its segment is roughly the same. That's why it's considered a "mid-size" truck.
Probably the best looking truck Chevy has made in decades.. I was instantly a fan just from the computer generated images. More particularly the ZR-2 but they all look damn good to my eye. Cool modern interior, bold exciting modern brutal exterior, and the price point is exceptional considering everything else in the market that dealers can’t sell worth a damn right nowZ
Oh and I forgot to mention the paint options… they’re the best on any vehicle in the market right now. Along with some of the colors you see with the Jaguar lineup, I also quite liked the bronco’s paint choices as well. The colors for this new Colorado just complement the vehicle so well, I have no idea how I will be able to decide but that blue is pretty. I love them all even the silver one just looks different. The blue the forrest green/harvest the nitro yellow the sand they all look incredible.
i have to say nice review. also i think you sell the last zr2 short. it is by far better than it's closest competitor off road. when you do the typical upgrades it's way better. that steering change looks good. they also redesigned the tie rods. they look more substantial. can't wait to drive one.
TFL made a good point on this headlight situation. Being most if not all vehicles come with auto headlights, as long as you have that selected you never really need to touch a nob. I very rarely touch my light nob on my Ram. No need too. It comes on when its dark, turns off when its light. I think its a good idea they just stuck it there. Less parts.
Have one ordered about 3 weeks ago, can't wait. It's been almost 10 years since getting a new vehicle. Was so torn on which color, picked the Glacier Blue, tho this yellow was my second choice.
I ordered mine in Radiant Red Tintcoat...can't wait!
@docholliday6285 Gonna be sweet. Was my first choice, but I've had a red truck before. Checked today, scheduled for manufacture first week in May.
I have a 2019 ZR2. It's my daily driver and 'light duty' wheeler. I have an older Jeep Cherokee I use on trails where 'some body damage may occur'. So while I can appreciate the offroad upgrades to the zr2 I am happy to keep my 2019. The bigger tires would be 'nice' but much of the upgrades are geared towards 'high speed baja' type wheeling. There isn't a lot of that available around here and it's not my 'thing'. I suspect most Zr2's won't see Baja racing type trails. The new 'trail boss' looks like a better choice for me, I would miss the selectable front/rear lockers but the automatic rear locker would be just fine for the trails I do with this truck.
GM Please make a software update to add the fog light control in the lighting shortcut.
I hope GM improved the IFS cv boots up front to keep them from tearing so easily.
Oh no not cv boots
Great video shots! As a prior owner of a 2017 ZR2 diesel the new truck appears to be vastly improved. I sold my ZR2 in 2019 to get into a Tacoma TRD Pro. I regretted the move, it was a step backwards.
I love the muscular styling, 33” tires, standard tow hitch, new shocks, cast iron lower control arms, new interior, wider stance, etc.
I’m going to wait on placing my 2023 ZR2 order until I read a review of the upcoming 2024 Toyota TRD Pro hybrid. My only negative regarding the new ZR2 is the dismal fuel mileage from the 4-cylinder 2.7 turbo engine.
What does one expect mpg to be on a ZR2 truck, lol. With 33in rubber, lifted & MT tread you will sacrifice mpg for this capability.
The Tacoma's hybrid is likely going to be like the Tundras... about power and not fuel economy. So I actually think the new Tacoma could put out more HP/Torque but I doubt the fuel economy is all that different. Maybe 1-2MPG better. The real question about the new Tacoma is if Toyota will give it a front locker, proper tires, and do any kind of high clearance bumpers. The prior TRD Pros, and the Tundra TRD Pro, simply don't round out the package completely. They put really good shocks and then do nothing else. I hope that changes but I doubt it.
@@PeakDecline A newbie to trucks here. But since tacoma is smaller than Tundra, isn't the hybrid MPG going to be at least 25? I was reading that it could be lexus's hybrid system...? I could be wrong though...
Your probably right. They don’t install front lockers, etc. because they sell every truck they produce.
So what are your thoughts now with the 4th Gen Tacoma vs 2023 ZR2?
LOVE the color.
This truck is badass!
Cannot wait for the ZR2 Bison!
Factory 33” tires on a midsize truck? HELL YEAH!!!!
My god. I aint no GM fan but I'm really thinking about trading in my 4Runner TRD Pro to get the ZR2
glad chevy is aware of the ranger raptor coming this summer its a great time for competition
When editing the video, you jumped around quite a bit in the beginning. It would have been nice to get to the comparison quicker. Also you start to discuss the front end of the truck and how it's been updated and changed. And then the next scene you start to discuss suspension. It would have been nice if you'd started and completed the whole front end section with skid plates and underneath and then move your way back to the suspension. Great video either way! Big fan!
This is gonna be a huge competitor for the TRD Pro.
I love the way problems that are not really problems are mentioned.
Keep up the great vídeos! You guys have só much potential
Should people wait for the 2024 model coming out? Wish mpg was higher on this.
Looks amazing. I wonder how this would do as a hunting camping vehicle
Only 40% dealer markup!
Every review has mentioned the headlight switch being in the infotainment. I don’t see how this is a big deal. It’s not a switch most people use very often with the Auto setting, and it’s conveniently located at the top of screen at all times.
Not sure how people don't use it. I use mine CONSTANTLY. Just about every holiday here we have drive thru light show and they want headlights off. Bad rain with shining sun, I want my headlights on.
@@Sacapuntas69 that’s fair. But even then, it’s right there where you would have really easy access to it. I guess I think this is just reasonably thought out. I think much more controversial items have been moved into the screen than this in the past or by other manufacturers.
I put my headlight switch on Auto and never touch it. However, if I wanted to manually control the headlights, the controls are right there on the Colorado touch screen.
Great video, even though I'm not in the market for a smaller truck, as I love my 2018 V8 Coyote-powered supercrew F150, I think this small truck is really cool and looks fantastic, and I really enjoyed the production quality here, was a fun watch!
I'm on my second Colorado and truly had no issues...I'm loving this New generation.. think I may have one in the future... thumbs up GM
Current Colorado has different engines lol
@@lunamaria1048 That has nothing to do with his post "LOL".
Waiting on the new Ranger and Tacoma before giving a verdict. It looks like the Ranger will have a much better engine (3.0 V6 400HP on the raptor) and even better suspension tech but probably for a higher price. The Tacoma will have the TRD Pro and Trailhunter versions but the last teaser is showing 31/32in wheels so Toyota will yet again lag behind in features off road capability from the factory. It will probably be as always a great option if you want to build it yourself though due to aftermarket support, and a great look.
Then there is the Bison with the world's first 35s on a midsize (looks like Ford might want to respond with a performance or sasquatch package on the Raptor).
My initial predictions is the following:
Best for buying a low trim and building it out: Tacoma
Best for performance: Ranger Raptor
Best buy with good combination of off road performance from the factory at a decent price: Colorado ZR2.
As for the Bison, considering that the useless joke of the Desert Boss package costs $10K for cosmetic shit, I am not holding my breath on the Bison pricing. It might cost 15K over the ZR2 just to move to slightly more lift, 35s and steel all around. Might as well buy the Raptor at that price (which fits 35s its been proven by the aussies) and have a much better engine for the same price or less and definitely at least the same off road capability. Not to mention I am pretty sure a lift will come for the ZR2 and allow 35s (albeit gearing will be an issue).
Fitting 35s isn't the same as a proper setup for 35s. Unless you regear then you've immediately nerfed any power advantage the Raptor might have over a ZR2 Bison. And in order to regear you're going to spend $2-$3K and completely blow out your warranty on probably the single most important thing on a truck besides the engine/transmission... the axles. I'm hoping Ford gives the Raptor 35s from factory when the Ranger arrives stateside. But the Aussie trucks are completely tuned around 33s. Hence they get smaller diameter shocks, weaker steering racks, etc. versus a Bronco Raptor.
Diffs you watch the build video from TFL truck on thre internals of that 2.7 V6? That motor will undoubtedly be very durable. Very strong internals. Ford EcoBoost engine has had its share of problems. Not to mention Broncos pulling tie rods out of there steering racks and CVs out of there diffs!
One thing you've left out if that the ZR2 has a front locker
Will the new ZR2 be able to compete with the new 2024 ranger raptor ? 😮
Lol
Fantastic review sir. I learned a lot about this truck. Thanks for posting
Dan Edmunds is fantastic!! Get him infront of the camera as much as possible. His knowledge and demeanor makes his videos superior to all others.
Can’t wait to get my new Chevy Colorado ZR2 🎉they will be available in allocations in August 🙌🏼
Clowns comparing this to trucks that cost $20k-50k more 😂😂😂😂
Exactly!! lol it’s like when someone posts A video of a dodge challenger and someone says it Ferrari will blow it out of the water🤣
Excellent production.
I have not seen the step accessory for the rock slider. More info please.
Great video. What song was the smooth rockabilly ? Snow scene.
Ford and Chevy are really making a range of great products recently.
I'm still on the fence with GM quality. They look good and may be reliable for the next 75k miles. What happens after 100k miles? Will I have to pay for new transmission and new engine?
GM supposedly refreshed the 8-speed transmission for 2023.
I feel the same when it comes to these smaller displacement GM trucks. Seems like a lot of money to take on that risk but I’ve always enjoyed American mid sized pickups more than the Japanese ones, so I’ll probably be picking up a ZR2 - YOLO, I guess.
That’s why I am waiting to see the all new 2024 Tacoma TRD Pro first. With Toyota you get QDR (Quality, Dependability, Reliability) and excellent resale value.
@@mini2nut67 Toyota is no better then any other truck. Probably has had more problems then any other, rust, transmission and motor problems, poor design and uncomfortable seating. Get some better from Ford and Chevy!
@@mini2nut67 not true, look at the new Tundra, blowing up turbos, not to say the old Tacomas were garbage, rusting and bent frames, bad motors etc. Toyota used to make reliable cars back in the 90s and 00s, but thats about it
Does the ABS braking turn off when in Baja Driving mode?
Is it pretty quick with the high output engine in Baja mode? Seems like its got a good amount of torque now!
I’ve always been impressed with the way Chevy approached the ZR2. I too have a gripe with Toyota on why not a front locker. After reading a lot of these comments I realize that the ZR2/checy customers really are catered to in the sense that they really take performance of these trucks in stock form seriously. It is very interesting in the wheeling community. Toyota people are forced by Toyota to build their vehicles whereas Chevy people are mostly satisfied with their purchase. You also see this out on the trail. If and when I see a ZR2, it’s stock. I have friend that has a Colorado @scurdge2001 (and so do I)and he complains about Toyotas because they don’t have a front locker. But the Toyota guys ends up building their trucks way beyond the ZR2s capabilities. But the ZR2 crowd will buy the truck with the front locker….. but hardly use it. It’s fun to think about their customer base when you sit and analyze it. Anyways !!! Amazing video on of a wonderful product. 🔥🔥🔥 you certainly looked to be have a time of your life making this review. 💟👏🏽
Can I take my Raptor on this course or do you have to be in an official race?
I love this new ZR2 Colorado, if I didn't need a half ton I would have waited and bought this instead of the Silverado ZR2
Forgot the best part, the duel lockers?
Mustafa Haboglu
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Forgot the best part, the duel lockers?
These dual lockers are going to duel it out with Toyota on who's dual system is best ;-P
I'll need a longer bed option. Do these mid-size get substantially better MPG than full-sized trucks with both having the punchiest/strongest engines (my preference)?
Still near 100% if not more than that to justify the expense, absolutely. Does anyone actually drive their vehicle in the manner shown in this video? Obviously not. Making a far more robust short bed with larger tires and *HUGE* sidewalls has advantages in certain towing and trailering applications but as a stand alone work truck yes you are absolutely correct this is *NOT* the way to go for a work truck or daily driver plus Lowes Home Depot and back work. For combining fuel mileage with practicality the only truck I have ever seen attempt this is the Ford F150 Hybrid which obviously isn't going to be getting eye candy such as this so I guess no one is going to offer that as who wants an actually practical pickup truck, c'mon mister! Least of all from General Motors!
ZR2 should get worse mileage than the Z71 and same as the Trail boss (i think). This comes down to having a lift and the front air dam missing (on ZR2).
Full size are surprisingly close to these, though I think the Z71 Colorado will probably get a bit more mileage than a Silverado.
Colorado 5ft bed only and all Canyons are lifted with the HO engine…Colorado Z71 and Trail Boss can be flashed to the HO engine after purchase, if one wishes.
Looks like Goodyear Dura Wall not so durable . Maybe they should let Cooper tire build them .
So funny to me people comparing this to the Raptor R. Both pointed for two different people. The RR is supposed to be quick. But the ZR2 is more off-roady. However they have about the same torque which really matters. If you want a fast truck get a TRX or a faster car. Don’t look for a fast midsize. The Chevy wins imo with the same amount or torque and much much more comfort features. Chevy ftw.
Raptor R? Do you mean Ranger Raptor? What comfort features does the Chevy have that the Ford may not?
The Raptor R is faster than the TRX, and has 700 hp and 640 ft lbs of torque, the comparison will be the new Ranger Raptor when it hits our shores. I'm not sure that I agree that a ZR2 is more off road ready than a Raptor R, on the roads in this video, a Raptor R would run away from the ZR2. A Colorado ZR2 would have the advantage on tight slow trails because of it's smaller size, the Raptor and TRX are huge.
Gimme the upcoming canyon Denali HO with the 6.2. That’s what I’m talkin bout!!!
@@rts3613 nobody is racing small trucks on the street. There’s much better options. And false about the TRX and Raptor R. The Raptor is faster from a roll the TRX is faster from a stop. Been proven over and over.
@@ethenjordan2010 I never said anything about racing on the street, I said the Raptor R would walk away from the ZR2 on the roads in the video. But, people race anything they can, cars, trucks, boats, mopeds... People race what they have, it's about bragging rights.
I've watched several drag races between the Raptor R and TRX. Most I've seen the Raptor R won, but some the TRX won and some were neck and neck. This is the one that stuck in my mind, because the Raptor R gapped the TRX when the TFL Trucks guys raced them ua-cam.com/video/_yKcneK265Q/v-deo.html. So, it's not proven.
Aux switches will be an option, I think.
Great review! I have a hard decision between the new mid sized trucks coming from Chevy, Ford and Toyota! The ZR2, Ranger Raptor and new Tacoma all seem great!
Ranger os the ugliest. Looks a generation back and front end of a maverick.
Suddenly my '20 Tacoma TRD OR is looking old..
0:40 - 1:15 mark.
How tall are you brother?
Is it me or does this truck seem rather small when you are standing next to it?
Don't get me wrong. It's nice to have a decently sized truck for a change. Especially in todays automotive world when _everything_ seems to be growing exponentially in size.
I remember when the BMW 3-Series was a standard sized sedan. Whereas now, the current BMW 3/4-Series is the size of an old 5 or 6-Series. Not to mention, we have VW Jetta's the size of [the former] Passat's, F-150's teetering on the commercial trucking side of the spectrum, Mini Coopers that ceased being _mini_ a long time ago and so forth. Honestly, I am surprised you don't need a CDL to own and operate some of the current trucks available on the market.
Although, it it's ironic when you think of this conundrum using cell phones as the product. Initially they started out the size of a briefcase (my Father worked for the phone company and was one of the first group of individuals in the US helping to develop the cellular phone). Then the goal was to shrink your cell phone down to the smallest possible size. Whereas now, you have phones the size of tablets!
It's absurd to say the least.
Stay classy my friends.
Can’t wait to get mine
Great review. Very interesting truck. Currently driving a 2022 Ram Bighorn 1500 (company vehicle) with the 3.6L. Debating on whether I want to buy it or get one of these. Retirement is approaching and I don't own a vehicle. Couple of interesting comparisons. The Ram is only about 200 lbs heavier based on curb weight and if the MPG coming out of the Colorado is correct the RAM wins in that category as well for similar HP (although the Colorado crushes it in torque).This definitely has better off road capability, but the RAM rides so sweet! What to do?
You mentioned retirement...buy the one that's going to last!
@@Jamalindaboxfulotit Now if I could only decide which one that is. I've had 6 GM trucks and good luck with them all. Just wish the 2.7 Turbo had more of a track record.
So is the nav on a subscription?
Waiting for the AT4 X Canyon. To see what it's interior looks like. My 22 ZR2 diesel does have a cheap interior. Wireless charging pad is to small for any modern phone! The upgraded payload and towing is welcome news. Great review!
May 8th review release
So good looking. Well done Chevy!
Price on this one - ballpark?
Could you test a trailboss there!?
Great video!
You need to test it out in the east coast rocks wood mud water ect...
17:23 What are you talking about? It’s a button away YOU DONT HAVE TO SEARCH FOR IT LIKE EVERYONES SAYING,,it’s that little round touch button on the main screen, my 02 Silverado has no option to even turn headlights off, It’s great Chevy makes it where you can EASILY control all this without searching for it ! I just bought a new Trail Boss Colorado,why does everyone say you got to search for the headlight etc, on the touch screen,,YOU DONT ITS RIGHT AT THE TOP
Excellent review/vid.
Ordered my ZR2 in Radiant Red Tintcoat 3/11/2023....nice to see they're in production.
what was the price?
Is the Colorado ZR2 similar to the Canyon AT4?
Z71 -> AT4 ZR2 -> AT4X
Awesome thx for the review
Awesome truck.
No, that’s not true.
The standard 2023 ZR2 will tow 7700 lbs.
The 23 ZR2 Desert Boss will tow 6000 lbs
We need a regular cab!!!
Great truck but not so great price when you could just build your own for a lot less money. Also can't do a a turbo 4 when there are still naturally aspirated options on the market.
Ill have one of the first ZR2s in Utah😁
Kick Ass Nice Truck. Thumbs Up !
I want!
Sans snow, would the ZR2 beat a Raptor over the pass?
If you’re buying a truck to go fast. You’re not going to get a fast one in a midsize. Get a fast hatch or something them. Torque numbers are the same which is really what matters. Not HP. The Chevy also has a much better interior.
@@ethenjordan2010 Not so sure about your interior comment!
Gm dropping the 6.2 in here will get me as a customer the next day!
@@dansherwood9851 You willing to pay $85K for a mid-size truck?
Well it's not as wide, raptors can't even fit around here unless you have a chainsaw and want to go 1 mph
Tacoma just had a pretty good answer
Does anyone know if any of the Colorado models have dampers on the tailgate?
I still wish they had kept the diesel
Good driver also.
What amazes me is how the only people who have these trucks. Are the people reviewing them. You try and order one of these and no dice. They basically are trying to do what jeep did. Roll out the top of the line then they don’t produce it. The reason for this, it’s to justify their sticker shock . Create a base of supporters then screw them until the following vehicle year and charge even more! Jeep did this with their Cherokee top of the line.
Is it true that the 2.7 has to run on premium gas only due to engine damage?
No 😂
nice looking truck.
No bison package
The headlights are in the correct location!!🤙🏾
I tried to buy a 2023 Colorado or Canyon over the last week... There are 0 available within a 1000 mile radius... All are "in transit" with no eta available... I heard a rumor it's due to the massive mistake w the oil pans that they are fixing but... If you go to build your own on Chevy and then instead search local inventory you will see ... NOTHING available..
Not the oil pan. The delay was in getting approval from EPA and finalizing their MPG numbers. Lots of finished trucks sitting in, well, lots. Shipments have started now that EPA numbers are finalized but it'll take time to coordinate the glut of stuck trucks.
@@tyh6243 good to know... That said there was a reputable UA-cam automotive technician that showed a video highlighting a msg from Chevy to dealers not to sell to customers until they performed a procedure to fix a serious problem related to either the oil pan or something thereof... And the issue was caused during assembly due to a tool that was either out of calibration or malfunctioning... Anyways the video showed the official communication and it read very serious... Now for the life of me I can't find that video... The EPA thing seems reasonable but Chevy is not communicating w buyers and dealers are pretending to have them online when they don't... Many aren't showing "in transit" and many that are are in fine print and many not showing at all... I applied for pre approval and was approved (hard pull) all to come to find "it's in transit" w no eta... Same story everywhere... Now that hard credit pull was for nothing... Anyways I went ahead and bought a new Ranger Lariat...simply because there is absolutely no info coming out regarding timeline.
@@timw594 mines supposed to be delivered to the dealership may 15. Id imagine they will be hitting most by end of may
To much music in the background
ZR2 or the RR👀
The ZR2's suspension is the best in the segment by a large margin.
Best suspension is debatable to full active suspension. Best none electric suspension for sure. It needs a coil rear.
Tire pressure was way to high.
I was surprised by that, too. 35 psi and above. The team of journalists appeared to have blown out a number of tires during the trek and I believe high pressure contributed to the problem. They had the Colorado race team there for guidance so that's even more surprising. I get that they need higher PSI for the speeds they were running but even mid 20s could have helped smooth out the ride, increase tire hookup, and reduce rock cuts.
@@tyh6243 I gone 40mph at 24 psi on wash board and the heat bring them to 30
Ok EVERONE stop using the word Amazing 👏
Finally some sort of positive for the GM fans that have been slowly but surely let down 😂
Will it fit 35s?
Bison will. Regular won't with significant mods.
No more Duramax on the Colorado zr2?
The only thing that worries me about the new Colorado/Canyon is reliability. 🧐
2022 Colorado rated higher than Taco to include JD Power
@@docholliday7548 JD Power gets paid by the companies, they’re pretty biased at times. Consumer Reports only uses customer feedback. They’re showing Ridgeline, Tacoma, Maverick as most reliable. Colorado/Canyon expected to still be at bottom.
@@chrisb9478 It’s the first year of this generation so there’s bound to be some kinks
Ain't no Toyota going to touch this thing in my opinion😂
It will aways be an S-10 to me........
Touchscreen headlight switch??? Who tf thought that was a good idea 😂
Okay great where can I buy mine? Hurry up and start spitting them out GM