I'M IN SHAMBLES. I'm an Australian hoops nerd who came to the Thunder as soon as they picked Giddey. I haven't missed a single Thunder Preseason, Summer League, or NBA game since that 2021 draft. I came to OKC for Giddey, but fell in love with the rest of the team, Sam Presti, Mark Daigneault.... AND the Down to Dunk Podcast. 😭😭 I'll still listen to Down to Dunk, and I'll still be cheering for the Thunder.... but I guess I have to be a Bulls fan now, too. 😞 I was a Bulls fan back in the 90s when I fell in love with the NBA... but this version of the Bulls isn't quite as exciting as back in the MJ days. 😅😅 I'm so emotionally torn. Hahahaha..... waaaaah. 🙂🙃🫠🥲
Follow your heart. The NBA isn't real life, nor is it fake. The NBA is what you want out of it. Be a Giddey fan, be a Thunder fan. Heck, start following a local team outside the NBA. It's fine to be conflicted, but also understand no one is making you take a side. Just see where your Fandom takes you, and embrace it.
Me too mate! I'm still going to be a thunder fan for sure. Will follow Giddey still too. Feel a bit bad for Giddey going to the dumpster fire that is Chicago
Caruso Is a "Thunder Guy." He loves Coach Daigneault from his time with the OKC Blue. His shooting will get better working with Chip Engelland. Thunder now have 2 of the top 4 season steals leaders in the NBA *AND* Lou Dort "AND" Chet. The Thunder D is going to be lights out.
Caruso is a Derrick White type signing. Low usage but very capable on offense. And a hell of a defender. Means you can always have point of attack defense with Dort, Caruso and Cason Wallace
Presti in "win now" mode and just made his first move on the chess board. Great short term move working toward the ultimate goal. Giddey got caught behind the curve with Okc. If the Thunder get to the Finals or even the WCF'S with or without AC? Giddey won't be missed even if he emerges. Presti has broken the ice and is going for it. Advantage: Thunder.
Wow Andrew assuming Caruso off the bench? Glad the Giddey trade happened so early. The future of OKC revolved around what happened with Giddey. Now way less mysterious. Get a true backup big and wing and it’s scary hours in OKC.
@@jackiemoon5906exactly chet is a 5 just like Mobley they don’t understand the reason okc was so good and why chet was so good was because he was a 5 putting Chet at the 4 ruins what makes okc so good defensive chet will be fine but offensively he will be worse since he will be guarded by wings and Chet cannot take advantage of smaller players right now If Chet was like KP who can just shoot over players then It wouldn’t be an issue
@@jacktan431 this logic is so dumb this is like saying if Steph is a point guard why he isn’t being a floor general and being a pass first player we are in a completely different era of basketball what a pg was back then isn’t what a pg is now same goes for big and wings
Not sure Caruso is better offensively... but he's a better fit with the current roster and playstyle. Giddey gets to play his natural game now, as an elite passer running the show with the ball in his hands. Giddey had one down year... because of all the off the court dramas, and being asked to play a role he's never played his entire life. Giddey was asked to be a 3&D wing.... which are the two skills he's WORST at in basketball. Giddey's first two years for the Thunder were awesome, and we have to remember we were talking about Giddey as a potential All-Star before the start of this season. J-Dub and Chet overtook Giddey this year, in terms of their hierarchy in the team slash pecking order.... whatever you want to call it. Realistically, I think this was a great trade for both teams.... but I think Giddey ends up a better player than Caruso. Giddey just doesn't fit with OKC's roster anymore. Giddey is NOT a locker room "trouble" like that dude commented during the stream. He's a stand-up human being, despite all the memes. He's a hard worker who has improved every single year of his life since he was 14 years old, and he didn't complain ONCE when he was asked to play a role that made him look terrible on the court. He's mature, intelligent, and a very team-first player. Great trade for both teams, but I'm really sad that Giddey was moved. 😢😢
@@brodiestephens419 im a giddey fan. I agree 100% with you. Caruso shoots 40% from 3 at 5 times a game. He will come off the bench but might finish out the games.
@jacktan431 You're forgetting one minor (major) detail... Dort is much younger and already on a multi year good deal. While it's close, I'm still taking Dort as high minute on ball defender. But yes when it comes to the offense it's AC not close, although Dort is a good 3pt shooter now.
@@jacktan431 calm tf down okc most likely Caruso going to start I was giving context to the guy saying Caruso is redundant to dort but it no different than having Aaron Wiggins or Cason Wallace out there because Wiggins and Wallace is just a worse version of those players Okc can easily start Caruso or even joe but most likey going to stat Caruso while keeping either dort or Caruso in the game while playing with the secound unit to always have a POA defender in the game at all time
It's a really bad trade for us :( I like Carusu fine but he's 30, we have him for only a year and we have deep holes in the 3 and 4 spots, with major overlap with Dort and Cason, at the exact same role
1. We can extend him next year for up to 4/$80M after this season 2. You need at least 7-8 guys you can really depend on in the playoffs. Caruso is easily in that caliber
You do realize that their this thing called the off season were team can make multiple moves and not one Also okc can extend him also okc can still get another player due to being able to make more than one trade
@@NoixNoir-gu4fd Carusu, Dort and Wallace are basically playing the defensive oriented SG role. Have you noticed that Dort and Wallace hardly play together?
Caruso gets an extension, PG gets signed and traded for Dort and add ons, keep onto the 12th pick Draft Holmes if available and it’s Celtics in the finals game 6 thunder chip. That’s what I’ll dream tonight anyway.
I may be bias. But I would hold on to Dort until I get an offer I can’t refuse. PG is not cutting it for me. Dort keeps getting better every year, a lockdown defender, on a cheap contract, and last but not least he is SGA best friend.
Caruso would make a great 6th Man. Think of Manu Ginobli. He and J-Dub can run the offense when SGA rests on the bench at the end of the 1st and the entire 4th Quarters while bringing the All-NBA caliber defense.
@@NoixNoir-gu4fdI don’t agree with moving Caruso but maybe package picks and move up to get Jdubs brother. You wanna lock Dub up for the next few contracts move up in the draft & go get baby bro and Cody Williams ain’t Thanansis he’s a hooper 😂
I'M IN SHAMBLES. I'm an Australian hoops nerd who came to the Thunder as soon as they picked Giddey.
I haven't missed a single Thunder Preseason, Summer League, or NBA game since that 2021 draft.
I came to OKC for Giddey, but fell in love with the rest of the team, Sam Presti, Mark Daigneault.... AND the Down to Dunk Podcast. 😭😭
I'll still listen to Down to Dunk, and I'll still be cheering for the Thunder.... but I guess I have to be a Bulls fan now, too. 😞
I was a Bulls fan back in the 90s when I fell in love with the NBA... but this version of the Bulls isn't quite as exciting as back in the MJ days. 😅😅
I'm so emotionally torn. Hahahaha..... waaaaah. 🙂🙃🫠🥲
Follow your heart. The NBA isn't real life, nor is it fake. The NBA is what you want out of it. Be a Giddey fan, be a Thunder fan. Heck, start following a local team outside the NBA. It's fine to be conflicted, but also understand no one is making you take a side. Just see where your Fandom takes you, and embrace it.
Me too mate! I'm still going to be a thunder fan for sure. Will follow Giddey still too. Feel a bit bad for Giddey going to the dumpster fire that is Chicago
@@Aussie_OKC_fanHe'll be fine there. Gets the ball in his hands and can run the offense and play his natural game. Good luck to him.
Good news, he went East, the only way you have to watch a torn game in the playoffs is the finals.
No shame in rooting for both teams, enjoy as much basketball as possible! Especially since they are in separate conferences.
Caruso Is a "Thunder Guy." He loves Coach Daigneault from his time with the OKC Blue. His shooting will get better working with Chip Engelland. Thunder now have 2 of the top 4 season steals leaders in the NBA *AND* Lou Dort "AND" Chet. The Thunder D is going to be lights out.
If Giddey were in this draft, he would be a top 5 pick. Both are worth two firsts in my book so that’s why there are no picks involved
Still bro. Bulls couldn't ask for a pick? 😂
Caruso is a Derrick White type signing. Low usage but very capable on offense. And a hell of a defender. Means you can always have point of attack defense with Dort, Caruso and Cason Wallace
Andrew taking calls like he’s Woj
Presti in "win now" mode and just made his first move on the chess board. Great short term move working toward the ultimate goal. Giddey got caught behind the curve with Okc. If the Thunder get to the Finals or even the WCF'S with or without AC? Giddey won't be missed even if he emerges. Presti has broken the ice and is going for it. Advantage: Thunder.
I love the move. A top 5 defense got better
I don't think this makes Thunder better, but at least they can now shoot contested 3s instead of Giddey's wide open ones.
You’re delusional if you don’t think this makes okc better Caruso hell will have a massive impact
@@Wrestle_KingdomMost fans are casual fans
Didn’t Carsuo start his career with the Thunder G league
Revisionist, but Dort on Luka, Caruso on Kyrie to free up JDub and Cason on offense, or onto the corner shooter and that feels so positive.
The Carushow, Let's go😎
Wow Andrew assuming Caruso off the bench? Glad the Giddey trade happened so early. The future of OKC revolved around what happened with Giddey. Now way less mysterious. Get a true backup big and wing and it’s scary hours in OKC.
Thinking Caruso will step into Giddeys starting spot
F a backup big get a superstar big and play Chet more at the 4 🤩🤩
@@NoixNoir-gu4fd why? Chet and the thunder are best with him at the 5. It’s not like he’s a liability, why do people want him to move to pf?
@@jackiemoon5906exactly chet is a 5 just like Mobley they don’t understand the reason okc was so good and why chet was so good was because he was a 5 putting Chet at the 4 ruins what makes okc so good defensive chet will be fine but offensively he will be worse since he will be guarded by wings and Chet cannot take advantage of smaller players right now
If Chet was like KP who can just shoot over players then It wouldn’t be an issue
@@jacktan431 this logic is so dumb this is like saying if Steph is a point guard why he isn’t being a floor general and being a pass first player we are in a completely different era of basketball what a pg was back then isn’t what a pg is now same goes for big and wings
It's my opinion that Caruso will take Giddey's starting spot. I don't see Caruso coming off the bench
And he shouldn't. More defense on the starters. Now bolster the bench. Yall got Hella assets
Last summer Andrew said “It’s no way they will trade Giddey because he plays the way that they want to play” 😂
Good trade.
I wanted a big as much as a more score worthy guard
Well not me….OMG IM PISSED…..LUV U GIDDY
😅😅😅😅
😂😂😂😂
Presti fleeced again
Caruso will probably start.
Alex C is a better bait to get Heartenstine
Now name the Starting Five?
OKC losts their mind...
Damn that was fast stream lol
You can have too many point guards but you can’t have too many 3&D guys.
I am now a Chicago Bulls fan. Leaving OKC as a fan
Bye
You're also a Duke fan now 😀
That was crazyy
Let's effing go boys!!!!
Good luck in the windy city Josh!
We could actually get alot for Caruso wat yal think?
Well he a lot better fit, better on offense and defense but we lose some rebounding.
Not sure Caruso is better offensively... but he's a better fit with the current roster and playstyle.
Giddey gets to play his natural game now, as an elite passer running the show with the ball in his hands.
Giddey had one down year... because of all the off the court dramas, and being asked to play a role he's never played his entire life. Giddey was asked to be a 3&D wing.... which are the two skills he's WORST at in basketball.
Giddey's first two years for the Thunder were awesome, and we have to remember we were talking about Giddey as a potential All-Star before the start of this season. J-Dub and Chet overtook Giddey this year, in terms of their hierarchy in the team slash pecking order.... whatever you want to call it.
Realistically, I think this was a great trade for both teams.... but I think Giddey ends up a better player than Caruso. Giddey just doesn't fit with OKC's roster anymore.
Giddey is NOT a locker room "trouble" like that dude commented during the stream. He's a stand-up human being, despite all the memes. He's a hard worker who has improved every single year of his life since he was 14 years old, and he didn't complain ONCE when he was asked to play a role that made him look terrible on the court. He's mature, intelligent, and a very team-first player.
Great trade for both teams, but I'm really sad that Giddey was moved. 😢😢
The rebounding is so overrated with Giddey okc was bad either way so it doesn’t matter
@@brodiestephens419 im a giddey fan. I agree 100% with you. Caruso shoots 40% from 3 at 5 times a game. He will come off the bench but might finish out the games.
Dort and Caruso overlap a lot. Include Dort for a skilled big forward?
NEVER get rid of Dort
Skilled big forward like Giannis or Davis 😈😈🔥
Dort, Dieng, and five 1sts can fit either's salary
No it doesn’t we have a POA at all times plus this just mean Caruso will take over Wiggins minutes but play a bit more
@jacktan431 You're forgetting one minor (major) detail... Dort is much younger and already on a multi year good deal. While it's close, I'm still taking Dort as high minute on ball defender. But yes when it comes to the offense it's AC not close, although Dort is a good 3pt shooter now.
@@jacktan431 calm tf down okc most likely Caruso going to start I was giving context to the guy saying Caruso is redundant to dort but it no different than having Aaron Wiggins or Cason Wallace out there because Wiggins and Wallace is just a worse version of those players
Okc can easily start Caruso or even joe but most likey going to stat Caruso while keeping either dort or Caruso in the game while playing with the secound unit to always have a POA defender in the game at all time
It's a really bad trade for us :(
I like Carusu fine but he's 30, we have him for only a year and we have deep holes in the 3 and 4 spots, with major overlap with Dort and Cason, at the exact same role
1. We can extend him next year for up to 4/$80M after this season
2. You need at least 7-8 guys you can really depend on in the playoffs. Caruso is easily in that caliber
3. You still have all the picks and lots of cap space.
4. You think Giannis is happy?
5. What the hell u mean Dort and Wallace have the same role?
You do realize that their this thing called the off season were team can make multiple moves and not one
Also okc can extend him also okc can still get another player due to being able to make more than one trade
@@NoixNoir-gu4fd Carusu, Dort and Wallace are basically playing the defensive oriented SG role. Have you noticed that Dort and Wallace hardly play together?
You were pretty sure after the Presti Presser he was gonna stay?
I did too, but no body knows what presti will do.
To give credit to Andrew his feelings changed some podcast the last week or two
CARUSEEEEEXXXXXXX
Giddy’s gone. You can relax with the sell job, sir. 😂
Let’s goooo
Caruso gets an extension, PG gets signed and traded for Dort and add ons, keep onto the 12th pick Draft Holmes if available and it’s Celtics in the finals game 6 thunder chip. That’s what I’ll dream tonight anyway.
I may be bias. But I would hold on to Dort until I get an offer I can’t refuse. PG is not cutting it for me. Dort keeps getting better every year, a lockdown defender, on a cheap contract, and last but not least he is SGA best friend.
Yeah hard pass on PG/Russ/KD/Harden. Leave the past in the past 💯
They're never trading dort. That's their only way of keeping shai
I'm with the acquiring a superstar with Dort and picks, but I am not with the Daron Holmes at #12
I’m good on the pg trade I like pg but he pass his prime and injury prone but Daron Holmes at 12 is the play okc should do
Who starts?
Lauri
Giannis
@@NoixNoir-gu4fd my pick too
@@mattnoonan6519he meant who starts for Okc, not Utah.
Caruso would make a great 6th Man. Think of Manu Ginobli. He and J-Dub can run the offense when SGA rests on the bench at the end of the 1st and the entire 4th Quarters while bringing the All-NBA caliber defense.
Andrew, how are your teeth so white?
Package Alex Curuso and move up in the draft
Niga for who? Is there even anyone in this draft better than Caruso? Name him 😅
@@NoixNoir-gu4fdI don’t agree with moving Caruso but maybe package picks and move up to get Jdubs brother. You wanna lock Dub up for the next few contracts move up in the draft & go get baby bro and Cody Williams ain’t Thanansis he’s a hooper 😂
Bulls fan in my life is not happy there were no picks going to Chicago...