@@plebisMaximus Which is sort of the point isn't it? This Era had no great power wars, the longest period of peace before now. I even remember a dev diary that talked about how war is meant to be devastating to your economy, so diplomacy should be used more.
@@brutusthebear9050 Yea, I personally prefer the current vision where war is supposed to be a last resort that screws you over. There's already enough Paradox games where war is the focus. If I want good conflict, I'll just play some more EU4.
@@brutusthebear9050 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars:_1800%E2%80%931899 Sure no wars... none at all. And seeing that Victoria 3 and their predecessors also go up to 1936 there surly were no wars in that time period.
@@plebisMaximus Why do people defend such a broken system? Sure wars are not the main focus but that doesn't mean that it should be broken. Could have easily done something similar to Imperator Rome where you can automate armies but what we have now is indefensible.
This video honestly showcases the problem with victoira so effortlessly. War is boring. Immigation means infinite gdp somehow. The ai cant build up its economy. There are no formables for no reason. every country is played out exactly the same.
So the problem of the landlords being opposed to any good economic or trade laws can be resolved through the Corn Laws journal, you switch grain to export while you have a powerful landlord in control and then the landlords get a laissez faire leader in charge
Now if you were able to trade with your neighbours just across the border while being a junior partner in a market. Or even trade with that exact market while it literally borders you. But since trade can happen only to and from the market capital, you need convoys to trade with the brits.
It is possible to survive, I played as them I was beating Qing but the warscore for them was -100 and i was not winning, the game was bugged. It ruined everything. The strategy is to join a big market, get immgirants, explode population and make a big economy, and attack and conquer something, important to get a coast. Building tall.
"Or worse, touch grass." "Ah yes, the three main ethnic groups of the Himalayas, the Tibetians, the Nepali, and the F l e m i s h." "Bad news, I went to touch grass and I somehow got sick." This video is a wild ride.
Buganda playthrough when? Sikkim is one thing, but Buganda is surrounded by uncolonized territory, has a standard of living of 4, and just about nothing really going for it. Make that work somehow.
@danshakuimo Yeah, I figure I can access weapons from some European power by joining their market and use that to conquer until I hit shoreline and then gradually become stronger and colonize Australia/Oceania for minerals. For some reason, no coloniezes Australia. But that's a lot of hours, lol
Ironically, I just started such a play through. Really easy to get all the surrounding lands, though. Hardest part is you can't join a market till you have a land connection to the coast. Otherwise your capital is cut off from the market, and has shortages of everything... even if you produce everything your internal economy needs.
To be fair to the consistant Scandinavian unification event, our real world got oretty close to that in some way as well. Sweden and Norway were in a personal union, Sweden-Norway had a shared currency with Denmark, ect. I’d say that the independence of Norway was probably the biggest nail in the coffin, but then there wes ww1 which resulted in our respective countries dissolving our currency union in favour of local economic sovreignty during war times, the great depression that solidified state of affairs, the independence of Finland, which redirected Sweden’s focus away from Scandinavia, ww2, which led to tensions between Denmark and Norway on one side, and Sweden on the other side, due to Sweden reluctantly agreeing to help Germany with their logistics in occupied Norway through a deal letting the Nazi’s use our railwaus for that purpose. And of course, after the world wars ended, all the different Nordic countries decided to take different stances of different issues. Until recently, Denmark, Norway, and Iceland were NATO members, while Sweden and Finland were non-aligned. Sweden, Finland, and Denmark are members of the EU, while Norway and Iceland are only members of the EEC. And among the Nordic EU members, Finland is a full member of the Eurozone, Denmark is the only EU member with an official legal excemption from having to adopt the Euro, and Sweden technically legally has to join the Eurozone some day, but only after meeting a certain set of criteria that the Swedish government is purposefully not meeting in order to not have to join in practice. And even if we suddenly all Nordic countries’ stances on international issues magically aligned tomorrow, and we managed to drum up support for creating a Nordic Federation, we still have problematic international presidence that creating a Federal government ruling over our current governments, would likely be treated internationally as if a new country formed, which would mean all the governments under it would suddenly be without EU and NATO memberships, as the Nordic Federation would have to renegotiate their respective memberships as a brand new country. Of course, East German unification does give us an interesting precidence. Technically, one of current governments could rewrite their constitution to create a Federal government above their own current one, officially rename their country to ”the Nordic Federation”, and then annex all the other Nordic states (with their consent). At least the country that annexed the others would retain their international agreements, while their new territories would now also be party to that one country’s previous agreements, just like how East German terriotories were automatically protected by NATO after being annexed by West Germany. Still, such a unifucation method invests a lot of power and trust in the internal political system of one Nordic country, making it an extra difficult method. If we are to ever see a realistic Nordic unification scenario, it’d probably be in a potential future where NATO and the EU are dissolved, and the Nordics realize they have to stick together if they don’t want to be gobbled up by the inflyence of their several bigger neighbours in Russia, Poland, Germany, and the UK. Not to mention other powerful countries with economic interests in the Nordic region, such as France, The US, Canada, and China. The only reason independence is feasable right now is that our sovreignty is guaranteed, and our economies are integrated into a larger system. Anyways, if there ever was a time where Nordic (re)unification seemed likely, it was definately the post-napoleonic era.
I actually like the idea of the war system, i find the fronts to be pretty cool and a nice change of pace from microing stacks in other games. However that nonsense of just invade 1 tile of their capital and get all war goals is pretty dumb, so is the way that if your supplies get raided by 20%, your armies lose 80-100% of their morale. Really makes the game lose its fun just like what happened here, and the game absolutely needs more content to make playing any small nation worth it, it really is just sit around in someones market for 50-70 years and hope you dont die
krakau's neighbours hate each other so you can play them against one another for territory bhutan's neighbours don't fight each other, they just want bhutan dead
16:50 Carl Marx himself stated that communism is an economic type that can exist in any government type, including a monarchy. It wasn't till the 20th century that it became cemented as a primarily authoritarian dictatorship style of government and economy.
if only there was an entire vic2 community telling them that the war system is as ass as it can be but ig they wanted to make the game like they liked it and not like their consumers would like it
In real life they had two real choices Join India Or be Conquered by China to become Tibet part 2. So they joined India, at least their democracy functions as well as anybody else's
This game's unplayable. Such a shame untested games are released like this. Congrats on a genuine playthrough critique. So tired of money driven tricksters (they call themselves content creators) cheering this crap.
@@cheeseofglass "a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim. "... The war has neither strategy or tactics, as you cannot tell the armies where to go other than naval landings. meaning that they have no action to achieve a major or overall aim. - 🤓
VK3 is a poorly designed game, which isn't anything close to what a 19th century economy or society looked like. It's more a "Planned Economy : 1960 Soviet Union edition". Plus, it's an annoying and overglorified button pusher.
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He endured many hours of doing nothing until the war broken him which is the Victoria 3 experience
With the war system, not fighting is a lot more fun and less frustrating. I see it more like a city builder than a war game.
@@plebisMaximus Which is sort of the point isn't it? This Era had no great power wars, the longest period of peace before now. I even remember a dev diary that talked about how war is meant to be devastating to your economy, so diplomacy should be used more.
@@brutusthebear9050 Yea, I personally prefer the current vision where war is supposed to be a last resort that screws you over. There's already enough Paradox games where war is the focus. If I want good conflict, I'll just play some more EU4.
@@brutusthebear9050 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars:_1800%E2%80%931899
Sure no wars... none at all. And seeing that Victoria 3 and their predecessors also go up to 1936 there surly were no wars in that time period.
@@plebisMaximus Why do people defend such a broken system? Sure wars are not the main focus but that doesn't mean that it should be broken. Could have easily done something similar to Imperator Rome where you can automate armies but what we have now is indefensible.
great video I wish quarbit was real
same
"It's a wonder what a brain can do at 80%"
I wish India was a real place... Can you imagine?
@@safehavenonice6431 it'd be terrifying wouldn't it it would be like a big ass Florida like confeds rose up again and Florida was it's leader
Who is quarbit?
Quarbit saying how he touched grass and got sick but we all know Quarbit has been sick since the beginning of this channel 😎
"So much support for isolationism even though we are technically not isolationist"
Switzerland wants a word ...
This video honestly showcases the problem with victoira so effortlessly. War is boring. Immigation means infinite gdp somehow. The ai cant build up its economy. There are no formables for no reason. every country is played out exactly the same.
So the problem of the landlords being opposed to any good economic or trade laws can be resolved through the Corn Laws journal, you switch grain to export while you have a powerful landlord in control and then the landlords get a laissez faire leader in charge
Now if you were able to trade with your neighbours just across the border while being a junior partner in a market. Or even trade with that exact market while it literally borders you.
But since trade can happen only to and from the market capital, you need convoys to trade with the brits.
Congratulations on inventing Flemo-Tibetans. Now, if only Vic III was an engaging game that valued such blending.
great video i wish sikkim was real
me too
So your little man is imaginary? (sikim means "my d*ck" in Turkish)
It is possible to survive, I played as them I was beating Qing but the warscore for them was -100 and i was not winning, the game was bugged. It ruined everything. The strategy is to join a big market, get immgirants, explode population and make a big economy, and attack and conquer something, important to get a coast. Building tall.
Thank you for having background music and not just playing sneaky snitch on repeat for 25 mins
tf is sneaky snitch?
@@Quarbit default song in the early 2010 videos. Look it up
"Or worse, touch grass."
"Ah yes, the three main ethnic groups of the Himalayas, the Tibetians, the Nepali, and the F l e m i s h."
"Bad news, I went to touch grass and I somehow got sick."
This video is a wild ride.
"Man this game is *Bone* Dry."
like a desert
Have you tried playing as Madagascar? Horrible education, no researched techs and a queen with a trait, which doesn’t allow reforms.
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makes sense
probably has it release early to members of his channel
Patreons, Twitch Subs, and YT Channel members all get early access
nah i think quarbit has just broken the space time continuum
Buganda playthrough when?
Sikkim is one thing, but Buganda is surrounded by uncolonized territory, has a standard of living of 4, and just about nothing really going for it. Make that work somehow.
Tried it, shits hard af and I quit, though I was less experienced back then, I could probably make it work this time
@@anthonyenriquez6309 Become a protectorate. Profit.
@danshakuimo Yeah, I figure I can access weapons from some European power by joining their market and use that to conquer until I hit shoreline and then gradually become stronger and colonize Australia/Oceania for minerals. For some reason, no coloniezes Australia. But that's a lot of hours, lol
Ironically, I just started such a play through. Really easy to get all the surrounding lands, though. Hardest part is you can't join a market till you have a land connection to the coast. Otherwise your capital is cut off from the market, and has shortages of everything... even if you produce everything your internal economy needs.
Acholi is the most interesting from that bunch cuz all the uncolonized stuff is their homeland.
Congrats, that's what an amazing gameplay i love it new subscriber
you don't have to lie bro we know vic3 gameplay is mid 💀
@@Quarbit i already subscribe it wasn't sarcasm
To be fair to the consistant Scandinavian unification event, our real world got oretty close to that in some way as well.
Sweden and Norway were in a personal union, Sweden-Norway had a shared currency with Denmark, ect.
I’d say that the independence of Norway was probably the biggest nail in the coffin, but then there wes ww1 which resulted in our respective countries dissolving our currency union in favour of local economic sovreignty during war times, the great depression that solidified state of affairs, the independence of Finland, which redirected Sweden’s focus away from Scandinavia, ww2, which led to tensions between Denmark and Norway on one side, and Sweden on the other side, due to Sweden reluctantly agreeing to help Germany with their logistics in occupied Norway through a deal letting the Nazi’s use our railwaus for that purpose.
And of course, after the world wars ended, all the different Nordic countries decided to take different stances of different issues.
Until recently, Denmark, Norway, and Iceland were NATO members, while Sweden and Finland were non-aligned.
Sweden, Finland, and Denmark are members of the EU, while Norway and Iceland are only members of the EEC.
And among the Nordic EU members, Finland is a full member of the Eurozone, Denmark is the only EU member with an official legal excemption from having to adopt the Euro, and Sweden technically legally has to join the Eurozone some day, but only after meeting a certain set of criteria that the Swedish government is purposefully not meeting in order to not have to join in practice.
And even if we suddenly all Nordic countries’ stances on international issues magically aligned tomorrow, and we managed to drum up support for creating a Nordic Federation, we still have problematic international presidence that creating a Federal government ruling over our current governments, would likely be treated internationally as if a new country formed, which would mean all the governments under it would suddenly be without EU and NATO memberships, as the Nordic Federation would have to renegotiate their respective memberships as a brand new country.
Of course, East German unification does give us an interesting precidence. Technically, one of current governments could rewrite their constitution to create a Federal government above their own current one, officially rename their country to ”the Nordic Federation”, and then annex all the other Nordic states (with their consent). At least the country that annexed the others would retain their international agreements, while their new territories would now also be party to that one country’s previous agreements, just like how East German terriotories were automatically protected by NATO after being annexed by West Germany.
Still, such a unifucation method invests a lot of power and trust in the internal political system of one Nordic country, making it an extra difficult method.
If we are to ever see a realistic Nordic unification scenario, it’d probably be in a potential future where NATO and the EU are dissolved, and the Nordics realize they have to stick together if they don’t want to be gobbled up by the inflyence of their several bigger neighbours in Russia, Poland, Germany, and the UK. Not to mention other powerful countries with economic interests in the Nordic region, such as France, The US, Canada, and China.
The only reason independence is feasable right now is that our sovreignty is guaranteed, and our economies are integrated into a larger system.
Anyways, if there ever was a time where Nordic (re)unification seemed likely, it was definately the post-napoleonic era.
Well, you do quite well for this country
#1 Sikkim player
@@Quarbit based
I actually like the idea of the war system, i find the fronts to be pretty cool and a nice change of pace from microing stacks in other games. However that nonsense of just invade 1 tile of their capital and get all war goals is pretty dumb, so is the way that if your supplies get raided by 20%, your armies lose 80-100% of their morale. Really makes the game lose its fun just like what happened here, and the game absolutely needs more content to make playing any small nation worth it, it really is just sit around in someones market for 50-70 years and hope you dont die
Am I the only one that read the thumbnail as "Skyrim vs Great Qing"? At first I thought someone made some crazy crossover mod haha
Army with no real guns is like orks from WH40k, running around with sticks and making dakka noise
OH YEAH ROMAN EMPIRE SPEEDFORMING INCOMING!
As a turk i felt so bad while watching this video cause sikkim literally means "my dick" in turkish😂
Isn't Krakau a worse country since there isn't Bhutan or Nepal you could expand to?
krakau's neighbours hate each other so you can play them against one another for territory
bhutan's neighbours don't fight each other, they just want bhutan dead
I am from Sikkim and today i found these video. Thank you for playing sikkim in victoria 3.
Mad lad, he actually touched grass. How was it thought? I haven't seen outside in 38 years
it was cold and buried under half a metre of snow
At least half my Vicky3 games have ended with me quitting over terrible war mechanic shenanigans
I waited years for this game to come out and now that its here I don't even want it.
It's certainly rough. Give it another year and check back again
7:57 european governments since the 1990s talking about the rural populations
17:25 one day Paradox will have a competent economic AI in their game
maybe
There a video about this country on the channel ghost countries. Bro got sick and became Markipiler halfway through the video.
Yeah i love vic 3 but wars are just awful. I've just started playing with leniant AI because i can't stand the dumb wars. Great video :)
You ought to send this video to paradox to show them where they need to fix victoria 3
Buganda is hard af you should try
Finally someone with the balls to try Sikkim lol
I've accidentally read Skyrim instead of Sikkim in the thumbnail.
Jan Mayen?
16:50 Carl Marx himself stated that communism is an economic type that can exist in any government type, including a monarchy. It wasn't till the 20th century that it became cemented as a primarily authoritarian dictatorship style of government and economy.
they should just copy the hoi 4 warsystem
at first I thought u was going to play butan which I have tried and got its a hard start till u can kick in to India
if only there was an entire vic2 community telling them that the war system is as ass as it can be but ig they wanted to make the game like they liked it and not like their consumers would like it
Waltuh
Sikkim means “my dick” in Turkish. So yeah that was a interesting video to watch
In real life they had two real choices
Join India
Or be Conquered by China to become Tibet part 2.
So they joined India, at least their democracy functions as well as anybody else's
They didn't join india .India invaded them and hold referendum.Its like russia invading ukraine and holding referendum in its occupied provinces ,
The hardest country is obviously piratini isn't it?
i read "Skyrim" instead of sikkim
vic3 elder scrolls when? 🧐
Play as California
Sikkim bois
I'd like you to play one of the natio s in uganda 😆
This game's unplayable. Such a shame untested games are released like this. Congrats on a genuine playthrough critique. So tired of money driven tricksters (they call themselves content creators) cheering this crap.
Quote from unknown: Victoria 3, a grand strategy game where you can't control your armies...
Makes sense, controlling armies is tactics, not strategy
@@cheeseofglass "a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim. "... The war has neither strategy or tactics, as you cannot tell the armies where to go other than naval landings. meaning that they have no action to achieve a major or overall aim. - 🤓
Hardest? Try playing as the Indian Territory ans conquer all of India.
VK3 is a poorly designed game, which isn't anything close to what a 19th century economy or society looked like. It's more a "Planned Economy : 1960 Soviet Union edition".
Plus, it's an annoying and overglorified button pusher.
Might want to edit your comment
Thanks for the edit, here's a like.
@@sully553 Thank you as well for noticing the mistake i made.
stop skipping the laws being enacted and annexations etc
So the game still sucks, got it. Answers my dilemma of "should I see if it's cool now".
touch grass
I tried ;(
Maybe you would have more subscribers if you would make video's more often.
L comment
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