Sir Michael Marmot on 'grim reality' of poverty in Britain | LBC
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- Professor Sir Michael Marmot joins Andrew Marr to discuss alarming data from the NHS, which suggests a signifiant increase in Victorian-era diseases, such as scurvy and rickets, during Rishi Sunak's premiership. Marmot attributes the return of these diseases to poverty and malnutrition and emphasises the 'grim' reality of Britain in 2024.
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A poor country with a few rich people. Well said sir.
The British Empire at it's best
Of course the UK is unequal. The country’s national anthem is about how a king or queen is prioritized over its people.
A country where the vast majority are either poor or very poor with a small minority of rich and super rich is almost by definition a third world country.
David Icke was always right then? 🤔
@@TheSuperPsychoKiller
Verse 6 is anti scottish
I'm a palliative care patient living on social security in England. I eat one meal a day. I can confirm it really is grim and thank you for highlighting these issues.
My heart goes out to you 😢😢😢
You deserve so much more ❤
I'm so sorry your going through a difficult time i feel for you🌈
I'm sorry 😢 to hear this. Is there any support that has been offered to you? ❤ How about the citizens advice bureau?
really sorry to hear this
🙏
Never has the British public become so much poorer under one parliament than they have under this tory government
Hey, what's the problem? London has more millionaires now than it ever did before! They're going to trickle-down their riches to us any day now. Be patient. Work harder.
When capitalism succeeds in channeling wealth away from workers to the mega rich, fascism will rise. Beware.
It's because we give our taxes for people not to work or to work less. Riches come from working
@@Craig121000 yes it did you just never leave the house so don't know. Bet you complained about energy bills right?
@@davidcooks2379 more than half of people on benefits are in work. More people were on benefits in 2010 and not working. The exact opposite happened that you have claimed. Look up marginal propensity to consume and you'll realise instantly why this nation that funnels money to the rich is getting so much poorer.
Lived in UK since 2011 until 2022...since COVID it got me so broke that I ended up on the street after owning a company. Finally made the decision to move back to italy and when I think about how many poor people I left there I get so sad that they don't have another option like I did. My health is still not restored after all the challenges I put my body too just to get by and make debts in UK. Shocking
I hope your better soon. Be aware however that Italy is in just as much trouble, if it is not exactly showing yet, this is going to be world wide.
@@poetmaggie1we are definetly not on the level of having scurvy
And better climate.@@andreabianchi6156
@@borisnegrarosa9113 INDEED . .... never got it why you would want to " live" there , I moved to N. Germany to the coast : clean orderly attention to detail , food , price quality , crispy feeling. Chique houses. Perfectly built , modern triple glazed , renewables , fruit orchards , close to S Scandinavia and the picture perfect cities of N. Poland. Married here from Netherlands , brw also crispy clean , even creepily creaky😮
@@geertstroyif more of you move to Germany then order will be gone
Take a bow, everyone that voted Tory over the last 14 years. This is on YOU!
Blows my mind how they keep voting for the same dusty, worn-out politicians 🤯🤯
Go back a bit further. 1997
It's hard to bow when skiing
@@ClannCholmainNo, he's right. New Labour was just Thatcherism with a new hat.
Yes indeed. But from 97 to 2010, poverty , homelessness, NHS waiting lists fell. But thatcher and major started it. @@alanc457
As a visitor from Ireland, I have been astonished at the level of poverty in northern England. London is super rich but not representative. Germany imposed a solidarity tax after reunification that transferred wealth from west to east. That’s what England needs but of course the people keep voting for politicians who went to Eton and Oxford. It’s puzzling. What don’t I understand?
The voting system hinders proper representation.
Murdoch propaganda encourages focus on the wrong things
@@emmabrooker166 pointing the poor people at other poor people in rubber dinghy’s deflects from looking at a class of people that can afford €65k a year per child in Eton etc. clever
In America, it's been seen as the "Myth of Individualism"... A Society that works together and prospers together is seen as Flawed, it's those "Cowboys" who are Rough and Tumbled just looking out for themselves and their immediate family who will "Prevail" at the end!
No logic behind it besides the Reagan/Thatcher brainwashing over the last 40 so years!
The north voted Brexit and Tory. You couldn't make it up.
Malnutrition and scurvy... Turns out Moog did manage to get the UK back to Elizabethan times 😂
Hey, that is Lord Jackob "I lied to the Queen" Mogg to you mister!
Mission accomplished for the "gentleman" from the 19th century.!🙄😬🤦
It's not necessarily the government more the food companies and billionaires pushing Ultra Processed Foods on us. Eat single ingredients and your'll be fine.
It's not funny, these are English children. The young, the future of our nation. You talk about it like it's a joke. Children in Ethiopia are malnutritioned. Now English people are talking like this is normal for the UK, not just the Horn of Africa. This subserviant mentality of the English working class is what has led to this. You never stand up to the upper class.
Neo-Liberal policies would prosper you they said....
The average person in Slovenia is living way better than the average UK resident. Almost every one in Slovenia has home property, which is unreachable for an increasing portion of UK society.
Lovely beautiful country that uk cannot match in most essential parameters .
I'm shocked to hear these things. I visited Britain some 20 years ago for study and when I hear such things it is shocking. Greetings from Tunisia.
So, why are people not flocking to Slovenia? 😂
If we were to judge a national standard of living by the percentage of households who own their homes, both Slovenia and Serbia would come far on top of Germany as most Germans rent, not own, their homes.
@@vaska1999 yes. Here in north africa the same. But honestly being in your own house and sometimes even on your own piece of land, and not having debt because you dont use credit gives you a certain security and freedom despite living a simple life.
I don’t get no sun light because I’m working 12 hour days 6 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head. The depressing thought about this is….I’m one of the “lucky ones”
This country needs a revolution!
Well said
So you DO get sun light?
@james Believe me you're not one of the lucky ones.😊😊
As d saying goes don't have time to get sick😂
Yes!
Rickets? Scurvy? In modern UK? A nightmare that cannot be believed.
Beyond desperation.
What if it's only a literal handful of cases of people who refused to go outside and get sunshine? Have you met anyone with these conditions which are curable with fruit juice 🧃
@@marcus.Hit isn't just a handful of people.
@@b62boom1 Well I missed the part where they said it was a lot of people. It could be that 5 people last year had it but 7 have it this year. That's a 40% increase. A massive increase, but 7 isn't really that much, even though it's a lot bigger than 5.
If loadsa people have rickets, why has no one told me? Why hasn't it been on the news?
How many people you met are literally unable to buy an apple? Or an orange? Is scurvy truly something that's widespread among the people you have met?
Sunshine fixes rickets. Last time I checked, sitting by a window to get some sun was available to everyone
@@marcus.H 30,000 cases of rickets and scurvy over the last four years.
@@marcus.H Well if 88 health authorities now have patients and in patients with these diseases, it is more than you suggest! You are deliberately belittling a huge new problem. Did you miss that in 2022 ONE MILLION children were in abject poverty, in destitution? Did you miss how destitution was defined as lacking 2 or more of the absolute essentials for life? And you think it is clever to belittle the numbers? How dare you. Have you also missed the report that children in UK have actually shrunk 5cm on average due to malnutrition? We only used to get such reports from famines in Africa. Now it is rife in the (still) sixth richest country in the world! Stop doubting the numbers and put the blame where it belongs, at the government of 14 years. At the government in power who could have avoided this.
Britain has become a third-world country, Nobody wants to take responsibility for the economy, It is sad when junk food is cheaper than decent meals. When I grew up, it was the other way around. My mother always managed to feed 5 kids a healthy meal.
The British Empire could never last
How much would that cost now, think about it. Food was getting cheaper but the last 3 or 4 years it’s got so expensive
@@hungbearlover when I was a child, 5lb potatoes was 2d (tuppence, old money). Two hot fresh pigs trotters from the butchers 1d. Bread from the bakers was 6d, and a cream doughnut a shilling - 12d. Butter and lamb from NZ was dirt cheap, ate it for breakfast, and dinner. Milk was cheap too. We really only stopped getting cheap healthy food when supermarkets started to shape our options and incomes grew in the 60s and 70s. Women were encouraged to go put to work, and often a second wage made a huge difference to family income, even with part time work. We cant keep on banging on about "my mam .. 20 kids ...fed on nothing.... healthy home cooked food". That doesnt exist anymore especially where people cant affird to turn on their cookers.
The third world is Britain's new population through continuous immigration from the time the Windrush docked to now. Numerous diseases have been brought into the country as no health checks undertaken with new arrivals.
That's over the top we're not third world, but we will be soon. Give I 50 years.
Poverty comes when cruelty, wickedness and hostilities against the other, is the order of the day. They are bedfellows!
My dad was an immigrant who came in the 60s. The councils had so much money, they didn't know where to spend it. Factories had employees to search and poach workers from other factories. You could get a job in any factory you walked into. Kids who left school could immediately get apprenticeship roles and employment. The council had enough money to fully refurbish your house (from bare brickwork) and even paid your rent when they moved you into temporary accommodation. This depletion of wealth and poor governance started 50/60 years ago.
Absolutely true
I am so confused living in Britain. It is a shell of what it used to be
TOGETHER WITH LABOUR GOVERNMENTS.
Sadly recent mass immigration hasn't helped infrastructure under pressure. A race to the bottom with wages. Manufacturing taken away. The country only produces financial services. My dad worked in the mills in Yorkshire that was a tough job he joined the Army to get out of the poverty they had to endure we've had family die in the poor house. This country really isn't Eldorado we can barely look after our own. Without offering a safety net to the world
@@mobob75Always blaming mass immigration. The area with the most wealth is London which has a 40% migrant demographic. London creates most of the UKs wealth.
Got to turn those millionaires into billionaires. The rich never have enough. Same thing is happening world wide. No pensions from work anymore, terrible health care, raising the retirement age and government keeps hinting your state pension may go away in the future.
At long last someone says it how it is, thank you Professor. I have lived on both sides of the coin. When I was younger I went without meals in order to feed my children, I would eat their scraps if there were any and in my later years I paid the price with my health. Now a pensioner and 40 years on I cannot believe things are even worse but still Society and the Government engage in belittling and punishing the poor!
I really understand that someone might not want to vote for Labour or Lib Dems but to vote for a party that has never done a single thing for the average person but make life harder every time they're in government is beyond me.
Totally agree
Poor people pretending to be part of the rich by voting the rich man's party, happens in my country too.
They keep lying but people still vote Tory lemmings comes to mind 😮
This is how you define stupidity.
That's our republican party here in the US
The food we have in the uk is honestly now only only one step above dog food.
Finally someone said it… the food quality has become shocking over the last few years
Yes! So noticeable! I moved back to Spain a month ago and the difference is unbelievable.
Agreed! I visited the U.K. twice recently and was appalled at what was on offer at the supermarkets. Nearly as bad as China. And that's saying something.
@@JackSmith-x8s I bought 500g of Tesco finest mince beef got it home and the bottom half was grey and rotten 😡
That's so sad really. If I went to one of the finer restaurants there would I not be served excellent fare?
We’ve turned the clock back to being the sick man of Europe all over again.
Scotland can do better much better...Time for scottish independence
Its what happens when you import the sick.
Look at NHS waiting list over the last 20years, a 700% increase of the sick.
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922Scotland 🏴 get out asap 🇪🇺
Even worse a lot of people voted for it.
Yeah because you never learn the lesson.....rich thieves lying and stealing and you are happy
a friend of mine come to visit from Dubai and spent travelling around UK, he said he never seen people anywhere so sad, poorly dressed and looking miserable like in the UK.
Karma, may be.
😂 it's not Pakistan give over!
OH please as if UAE is any better! It is not, I been there I have seen how people live there.
You think UAE is better than the UK? I don’t think so, I been working and live in UAE for a decades and more people poor than in the UK. Unless if you are in a business sector or to a wealthy royal family. 😂 all fake😂😂😂
@@Show_what_I_LoveMate, there are a lot of poorer countries than the UK. Travel more.
Here's the worst part - people voted for this.
No they voted for the lies they were fed by almost all the tory mainstream media,
To be fair people voted for the cause not the effect. It's important not to just blame voters. They have to see why they shouldn't do it next time.
@@keech100 Scots haven't given the Tories a majority in 70 years so forget a next time!
Scotland never voted for englands disasterous brexit ...time for Scottish independence
To be fair, people were lied to. Leveling up was promised but broken.
These things are trivial to fix. That our government is incapable of this rather speaks to the general incompetence of our political class.
Oh, they know how to fix it. They're doing everything they can not to.
@@JerzyFeliksKlein which begs the question why. Their wealth is denominated in sterling. Taking out the rest of the country will take out them as well.
It's going perfectly to plan for the "Highwayman " (tory).
They've lined their pockets and now scuttling the ship. And still brits will vote for them...insanity.
Brits have voted Tor for 11+ years now, so that seems to be what a majority wants.
@@friedrichjunzt do you know how "first pass the post" works. For decades the tories have been in power by less than 50% of the actual ticked boxes, sometimes just over 1/3 of the votes. Educate yourself.
The true legacy of 14 years of Tory government, a return to 18th Century. No wonder Rees-Mog looks so smug all the time.
@musicman An almost laughable comment.
@@Andrew-ti8hi whats almost funny about preventable diseases that this "government" has caused ?
That would be Ree-Smug.
It's thanks to Blairs New Labour from 1997 that England is in an absolute mess. They opened up the flood gates migration which has put a strain on all services, especially schools.
@@bert454 ooh dear haven't you seen the immigration figures under this tory regime , you're in for a big disappointing surprise
As thatcher said "there is no such thing as society" this IS the legacy she aspired to. She must be proud of the last 14yr's of "achievement" they have made.
Well the left think there is no such thing as society why else would they want open borders.
she's dead. how is she supposed to be proud of anything? geez.
Hypothetical my dear Watson, hypothetical. 😆😆😆........@@thehellyousay
She never actually said that, the quote was brushed up by the editor. This is not to defend her record, it's just a oft quoted error.
Margaret Thatcher said. "There is no such thing as society". This was during an interview with Womans Own in1978,@@siemprestruggle9272
An artist once said, "They have money for war, but have no money for the poor"
We the people of the UK should be ashamed for allowing this to happen.
The faster you recognise you have been invaded with unconventional warfare (corruption and gaming the "humanitarian" "refugee" definition with a commandeered UN and EU) the quicker you will realise it is Global and beyond a "ashamed" thing.
They poor should never again go to war when the rich want them to. That day will come sooner or later. Let the rich lead the rich into the fight to protect their wealth. The truth is capitalist countries need people only to keep them in debt during peaceful times and to send them to war when one has started. Refuse to go to war, refuse to buy from abroad, refuse to buy new stuff, always buy second-hand, refuse to service your staff with networks, use local people. refuse to buy stuff local handyman or yourself can't service, refuse to insure, buy a bike, get rid of your car ... be as little a part of elite capitalism as possible. If many follow this, capitalist elite is dead. As it stands now, a lot o people in the UK still buy stuff they can't afford, like drug addict addicted to comfort a dose gives you, they want the comfort, but they have no money for it. Cut down on your market participation as described above and if that's not enough, leave the country. There is no point staying in the place you can't get a shelter, food, clean water, clean air, afford your car, your car insurance, your house mortgage. Pack you luggage and go elsewhere. The country will not change, and you will die waiting for a change that never comes.
Still just as true today. For example our navy in the red sea has been firing off sea viper missiles which cost just north of £1 million shooting down drones that cost about £16,000. What makes it even more ironic is their missile was to protect red sea merchant vessels however the second you turn it into a warzone insurance companies refuse to insurance ships and tell them to take the Cape route instead. So now we are literally doing the Houthis job for them whilst paying for the privilliage. Those puppets who stand up and tell you about war either don't know what they are talking about or are lying about it.
You need to speak to dwp theres much help out there if you ask for it they should come out to your home .you need a ds5000 form from your specialist
Not all of us the ones that voted in camoren .hes the architect of this shambles .
Shocking and shameful 😮😢
As someone almost 60 years old I am surprised anyone is surprised by this, every multi-term tory government ends the same way. The poorest are destitute, high streets are boarded up, roads go unrepaired but tories and their donors live in solid gold houses claiming there isn't enough money for social services, education, infrastructure etc and we all need to tighten our belts. The cycle repeats inevitably and no one ever learns.
Sadly reminiscent on Orwel's 1984! 😢
Yes it is like a sustained stealthy scoop from the public purse to the bank accounts of millionaires over the course of the terms. The tax brackets are out of date for a start. Freezing them with a future date in mind should be illegal
You have lived long enough to see a couple of these cycles, keep on sharing coz people should know.
How are the illegal immigrants faring?
The billionaires took all the money. Tax the rich. Get Boris to pay back every last cent wasted.
Johnson…
🙄
Yes get Boris to empty his bank account and give that back at least
I wonder if mass unwanted immigration could be the cause of our problems
@@joannedibben2352 Johnson…
We haven't "become poor" we've been deliberately made poor.
When we are so poor that we live to work rather than work to live. Rich folks job is done. We effectively become slaves because we have no other options to better our lives. Rich sit in their penthouses and manor houses laughing at hiw they shafted us. Most of us won't even get a pension, so basically worked for nothing all our lives.
Yup, one of the results of capitalism
USA done by lies to rule eu and make down first Germany,started ukrean war the forced is uk usa, German fall on trap,so UK also fail on trap and will suffer lot with no help
Voted for Brexit more likely.
And you voted for it with Brexit. Having said that it is painful to witness this especially as nothing is being done to rectify it.
Vitamin C is also in cabbage and cabbage is cheaper than fruit!Fresh potatoes are nearly nutritionally complete too. Processed potatoes like chips, fries aren't nutritionally complete. Tins of beans are cheap and excellent for health. People lack nutrition knowledge, aren't cooking, and rely on processed food when they buy food. Sounds like they also need to offer free breakfast and free lunch at school for poor children.
Kids don't like cabbage
Of course they don't ifthey have a choice and brought up on pizza and chips.
@@sallypickard2227 Maybe they should learn to :)
@@sallypickard2227, They do if they’re hungry !
Cabbage has vitamin C only if eaten raw.
Rishi's response to the "destitute" sleeping rough is to fine them £500. If all fines were based on "ability to pay" then Rishi should have been fined £1Bn for breaching covid rules. The moral ethics of this man are mirrored by the effluent outlets of UK water companies.
Hang on, cut him some slack. He will lower taxes for some people and get rid of that pesky inheritance tax that clearly affects us all. 🙄
Inheritance tax is a tax on the dead and is shameful
Remember folks: “Punishable by fine” = “Legal for the rich.” 😂
We all remember Eat Out to Help Out, he was a wrong man at the wrong place, a court of law should look at this.
It's the UK government response to everything fine or sanction
Back in 1992 I joined the Army coming from a very working class background. Ended up serving 25 years, retired and settled in Germany now living a very comfortable lifestyle. I'll never forget how Brexit voters told me that within a few years I'll be wanting to go back home to live in a prosperous United Kingdom.
The mind boggles
That's what you get for listening to Boris . he told a pack of lies solely and only to attain his personal ambition .
The German economy is doing far worse than the UK's. The standard of living that most Germans' are used to is coming to an end. I'm not happy about this, and had hoped that we would all weather this economic crisis, but a recession is inevitable. Young well educated Germans are leaving the country in droves. That does not bode well for the economy.
The EU once had an economy that was equal to the US. Now it has a fraction of that wealth. Hard times are coming.@@MookMineola
@@aion5837 Its only 1% less than the US in share of global trade....
Are you from the UK or Germany? It's no secret that Germany is not enjoying quite the same lifestyle it had twenty years ago but that's the same the world over. What I am talking about here is the comparison between the two nations. I travel back home twice a year so I sadly get to see the decay of my home country and it's very striking.
I am only talking here about my experience. @@aion5837
Brexit Britain coupled with a widening of inequality in wealth distribution has set us back 150 years...Jacob Reece Smug must be absolutely loving this.
Neoliberals in 1980 - Give the proletariat just enough to be hungry and disciplined in the workplace
Rightwing libertarians in 2010 - Give them nothing! Starvation is the ultimate disciplinarian of the proletariat!
@@kinghenryxl1747the English ridicule the French as cowards in war but in reality it's the English who are the cowards.
14 years of Tory corruption on a scale never before seen and in full public view, systematic erosion of our rights, systematic destruction of our public service, destitution and poverty returning to pre war levels, a Tory PM suspends parliament to prevent scrutiny of a critical piece of legislation, the same PM openly breaks the law on multiple occasions and during a national emergency, Tory party changes PM and core policies multiple times without a GE, all this and more yet why isn't parliament surrounded by protesters demanding criminal investigations and an immediate GE.
If Macron had done just 10% of what the Tories have and continue doing the French would have dragged him out of the Elysée palace kicking and screaming all the way to court.
@dibdab You too.The perfect opportunity to be outraged yet again.😂
@@chatham43 glad to know you think it is acceptable.
Brexit ... but not the mass train wreck of lockdowns, half a trillion printed for furlough, sanctions war on Russian energy or green taxes. No... just Brexit 😂
Glad I foresaw all this in 2017 and got out of the UK. No regrets whatsoever.
where are you
So where did you end up? As far as The West is concerned, there's not going to be much difference in the politics whether you're in the UK or EU, the principle is the same, the rich ruling class are gobbling up everything and leaving very little for anyone else. The ever changing regs and tax system are designed to make sure you'll never catch up with them.
I got out and unfortunately came back! and oh boy have I regrets
Very sad... I got out in 2001. Germany has its ups and downs but life here is so much better than I remember in the UK. It is a crime what the British political class has inflicted on the British people 😢
There's enough money to go around. It's just in the wrong hands. And too few hands. Tax the rich.
As we say in America, its expensive being poor!
So I have lived abroad for the past 15 years and have returned to UK for a long trip over some family issues. The amount of things that are broken or overpriced is pretty shocking.
Trains from Edinburgh to Liverpool costs £56 and was delayed for 50mins. Getting a a partial refund is nice but the fact that there is a system in place to handle these refunds kinda indicates this is quite a common thing to happen.
Waited for 36 hours in the A&E with my father.
Potholes EVERYWHERE! There are also road closures but it looked like very little work is being done.
Mobile reception is appalling. So many blind spots even in some central locations.
Even the AirBnB host had to ration heat because the cost of energy is so expensive.
The only thing that I noticed any improvement is when they want you to pay. Wireless card payment is wonderful but that’s about it.
Honestly, it’s really sad to see Britain like this.
Please let your friends and family know how bad things are in the UK. Avoid at all costs. Their people voted for clowns and now they are complaining. Next election, they will vote for the other clowns they voted out about 14 years ago. So the cycle of doom and destruction continues in the UK. Avoid even coming as a tourist.
Please let your family and friends know about the state of the UK.
Avoid at all costs, especially as a tourist. The people are to blame. They voted for clowns and now they are complaining, and in the next election they will once again vote for the other clowns that they voted out 14 years ago and so the cycle of destruction and decay continues.
There's a daily " Pay as you pollute the world airsupply" charge in the UK and a 32 km per hour speed limit in the UK, voted in by the public which means more taxes and even longer commuting times for the public to get to work and back.😂😂 All voted in. Which fool will want to settle in the UK?
How much did trains from Edinburgh to Liverpool cost in 2009'?
Interesting how the US and Britain are experiencing similar things at the same time.
Super, duper Interest-ing! But TRUST US they say!
Not quite. I live in California and despite our problems (all states have them) we don't have that kind of poverty and many cities are taking the homeless crises into their own hands while our state government in Sacramento deals with that and other issues.
In both countries, the last 45 years or so the same ideology has held sway. In both countries, we're saturated with right-wing media. In both countries the political class has been thoroughly corrupted by oligarchs & malign foreign influence.
US has a much higher standard of living than the UK, especially in average house size
The UK is waaaaaaaaay worse off than the US. Way, way worse off. Not even remotely similar. I know misery loves company, but this is not an American thing.
The government spent 40 billion on track and trace which disappeared and yet didn’t once think to share vitamins and organise fresh fruit deliveries for the vulnerable - no serious tech required and simple measures would do wonders for our country
You actually think that Karen and her six children on benefits wants to eat fresh fruit ? Really ! As for forty billion quids wasted : that's what UK government and councils are all about , spending other people's money and wasting it .
@@MookMineolathey do want to eat healthy food, but it's cheaper not to. That's the point.
£40 billion is a lot + £140B lost due to Brexit + all that lost to PPE scandals.
Dreadful
@@MookMineola people in Wales (40% poverty rate) cant afford to use their cookers to make hot food even when its given to them. Many on UC even in work have deductions from UC - one lady I know is having deductions against debts her husband ran up before he ran off, even though shes working part time and raising 2 children.
Money wasted on HS2 and Rwanda bill
@markbright Well it wouldn't do "wonders" for the country but it would have helped. Billions were wasted on Lockdown I do agree.
The UK is not a poor country. Wealth is concentrated in a few hands. If ever there was a time for a top to bottom redistribution of wealth this is it.
It is a poor union
It's a poor country with a few very wealthy individuals in it.
it's a country of poor people leeched and rulled by the bunch of rich
@@jounikbritain is not a country Muppet
@@mmcc5846 "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (UK) is an island country that sits north-west of mainland Europe." But what would the Commonwealth Secretariat know...
Thatchers legacy... it's going great . Just as all the rational people said at the time she destroyed everything people fought over centuries, in a few decades. RIP UK
100% in agreement. The two things you cannot be in Britain in 2024. Skint or ill. The tories really have turned us into a backwater.
No NHS anymore?
@@rebjava
The NHS we have has been decimated, like pretty much everything else by the 13 years of conservative corruption.
Blair you mean. Things happen over longer timescales. Things went rotten ever since Labour got in. The current government just inherited a mess.
@danielclemence3689
Oh please.
@@Viewpoint91Oh please what?
But apparently all the problems will be solved when we 'stop the boats'. Shameful.
Don't forget whatever Frazer is on about. Dealing with bias on the BBC that exists exclusively in people's minds which is what makes it real?
@@cupguin So that's why BBC Scotland had to offer more corrections/apologies for falsities, than the entire BBC network combined?
Take your time now....
@@markwilkie3677 Congratulations on proving how idiotic her point is. Issuing corrections isn't proof of bias, it's proof the BBC issues corrections. It's even arguable proof the system is working as intended since corrections get put out as needed. Either way you look at it, issuing corrections doesn't show a need for added OFCOM powers.
And "there's a public perception of bias" cheers on demonstrating that. Let's say I work for the BBC. I make a mistake or learn something in the future, is that bias? More importantly, why are you so convinced you know that corrections were due to bias? Would I be wrong in assuming no matter what I saw you're convinced that there's a "left" bias that's reflected in those corrections?
And I'm going to give you a small hint why people are going after the BBC. If people can trust the BBC and it publishes a story about a sudden spike in childhood illnesses associated with lack of access to food it would reflect poorly on the government. That's not reporting bias, it's reporting reality. But if you're convinced there's a political bias at work you'll ignore that and think favourably about the government. So there's a direct political benefit in making people doubt factual reporting.
But sure, perception, correction and all being interchangeable when it comes to the BBC isn't serving Frazer's party at all and it's the BBC to blame somehow.
@@cupguinI agree wholeheartedly especially the third paragraph. Are these people who call BBC biased ok with bias in their direction (confirmation bias). I’m thinking specifically about the Panorama programme on supposed anti semitism in the Labour Party under Corbyn. It’s been proved to be lies and distortion but “hey that’s ok as it was our gang against your gang”.
Yes, net migration of 745,000 a year hardly helps the country. We are paying out millions every day for people who enter this country illegally.
I am a Portuguese citizen, living in Portugal, I love Great Britain and I´m heartbroken to hear this news 😢😢😢
Am sure you also loved Mozambique and angola😂😂😂😂
Yes brexit and taking back control apparently we'd all be better off post brexit ...well that's what they said as the sold it to the country .
Please don't believe it. Wages have been rising rapidly and prices have fallen
In Portugal the minimum wage is close to €5 per hour. In England, it's €13.37 per hour. These reports do not reflect the reality. I was shocked at how expensive Portugal was when I last went there. Shopping for food and fuel is cheaper in England
Brexit and taking back control so this is what it looks like ....
To clarify, I meant the 2024 minimum wage starting in April will be £11.44 per hour, which is over €13 per hour. This means the pay is more than double here. We also get paid holidays from work and fully matched pension contributions, meaning we make equivalent to about triple the rate in Portugal
The people in the UK are poorer because of 14 years of Tory Government. We need a government who cares about the people.
We won't be getting one any time soon
I am sorry to say that not much will change under Labour. It's the Establisment that rules, mostly faceless 'elites' that pull the strings. Both Parties serve the same master and vilification awaits all that challenge the status quo; as Corbyn well knew.
@@rayglenister9799The problems are structural. And paradoxical. By quitting the EU, people are now realising we need immigration to drive the economy and achieve growth. Without which we will all be poorer.
@@rayglenister9799 yet we were in a much better place when labour were running things. labour arent beholden to a handful of rich donors at least. with our press we stand zero chance of a decent left wing gov sadly.
Absolutely agree ..I've never voted Tory and never will .we've now had 14 years of wage stagnation..this is the result
Britain has the smallest average house size in Europe, 950 sq ft, in the US its 2200 sq ft--How big are the King's residences?
Huge, and he has a lot of them.
Thatcher came to power espousing "Victorian values".Implement Victorian style policies,get Victorian style results,it's not rocket science.
Spot.on.!!! But have the British as a people begun to recognize the connection from yesterday to the suffering of today?🤔
Of course they haven't but that's because 95% of the press and broadcast media don't tell the truth.@@staciasmith5162
@Anthony. It's certainly not rocket science but it's certainly twaddle!😊
You can’t talk about poverty without mentioning the extreme levels of wealth concentrated at the top. The multimillionaires and billionaires have done very very well recently.
You ideas on how to fix this with potentially somebody like Trump as the leader of the ‘free’ world? Tax billionaires on their net worth? Can’t see him and those neo-con republicans even entertaining the idea……
Presumably you think that we are poor because they are rich?
This is truly shameful in one of the world's richest countries.
Yes and most if their wealth was by exploitation and plundering the unfortunate while they lived in their ivory towers
Britain is only rich for the richest in this country
I’m disgusted by what’s happening here
You honestly think the UK is wealthy country!?
You’ve been fed a lie for decades my friend! The uk has lived above and beyond its means for decades! Get used to it! It will get worse and worse. Wake up!
Not since brexit it isnt! Where have you been?!
UK is nothing now....UK was rich being in the EU....now it's just a hole for criminals
This is heartbreaking!
Just read his reports plus the one 10 yrs on. Its shocking. Life expectancy going backwards for the first time ever!
How can a health service run effectively with a -.75 % budget!??? Shameful. Prof. Marmot does whatever he can to raise awareness but on the current government it’s wasted.
Thank goodness we have Prof Marmot! ❤❤❤
As Marmot would also point out it’s not the health service funding that matters most either, it’s the cuts in funding to our social, environmental and public infrastructure that have taken the most toll on widening health inequalities.
We live in a heavily addicted society. That’s why the health service is on its knees
Never in the history of British social inequality, has so much harm been inflicted on so many, by so few....
Yeah we will fight the corrupt rich on the beaches lol!😂
can't wait for GTA6, i must obey the system until then.@@jamiecurran3544
erm overpopulation? if the previous parent had less competitors for rent and property purchases they have more money for their children and vice versa. It's all about, overpopulation which drives up cost competition for investments. Also sometimes populations go through iq and creative thinking decreases. This further reduces the ability to bounce back. To be sure it is also in part fault of elites and lack of curtailment or regulation on what they can own and the fault of the banks.
but overpopulation and lack of cultural direction are the main drivers. Allied with, obviously the lack of action on restructure of national debt. However the national debt is also based on tax revenue based on many things, but overpopulation again being a big factor.
Come on, early medieval times were much worse
I want inform, that overpopulation is not always a deal breaker. But for a country that currently has no obvious industry strength, or natural resources (see japan and fish) and (bad timing) one of the worst artificial debts (created by the evil banks and allowed in by labour gordon brown) it is indeed a deal breaker. p.s. I am thinking of joining labour as a member, but havent voted for anyone in a long time.
Mogg must be ecstatic. Its like all his dreams have come true
Mogg lives in that phantom raspberry blower of old London town episode of the Two Ronnies 😅
He will deny it with complete, condescending conviction.
Absolutely! He's always wanted Victorian Britain for the present day and here he has is. Now all's he got to implement again are workhouses for the poor and the reintroduction of Chimney Sweeps.
Workhouses next
I was fascinated by THE IDEA of the UK, so I moved there in 2016. It took me a year to admit my mistake and shortly after, I was gone. Never looked back.
You were GONE? Like... you disappeared into thin air and were never seen again?
@@melissachartres3219 haha - yeah - exactly
Where did you come from?
@@fezisheikh3044 Switzerland, Scandinavia and the US.
Absolutely crazy ricketts is back on streets in Britain 🇬🇧
Maybe exaggeration me thinks western countries have a plauge of obesity
High levels of inequality is destroying this country, the greed and selfishness by the billionaires is a disgrace. How many billions do they need? I couldn't comprehend having that much money and coutinue to want more while people in this country are living in such poverty.
The Billionaires don't have loyalty to any nation or people. They have loyalty to gold. If they can make more money in Singapore, they will go there. If taxes are lower in the US, they will go there. Billionaires have no vested interest in a nations stability or success. They just extract wealth and assets and then hide their billions in a vault in a Swiss mountain, or a Cayman Islands tax haven. Western Democracies are going to be destroyed not by Russia or China, but by the greed and avarice of Billionaires who have no loyalty to the West or Democracy, only gold.
there is no upper limit, if you feel insecure, you will always need more. Do not count for the reach to become less greedy. They do not feel they are rich and will never slow down. Stop paying for new stuff, use local services, buy national produce and products. That's the start.
My daughter invited a friend home after she felt weak and unable to walk all the way home from school just half a mile away. She hadn't had anything to eat for 5 days and was literally starving to death! This reality cannot continue for these kids with the 1% swallowing the entire wealth of those already at the bottom with nothing more, even food!
If you can't support your kids YOU are the problem! Don't have kids.
I am not British or UK person, but your whole country is going downhill basically and hearing this story of not eaten for 5 days, omg, such a poor child,
@@akhilsharma20 Not sure the whole country, the already wealthy elite are doing even better from the cost of living crisis, but we have had probably the most destructive conservative government since Thatcher and it's gonna take yet another Labour fight. Unfortunately I don't see it with Starmer, only the pure clarity of someone like Corbyn will ever help those at the very bottom like this poor kid is stuck in.
What about food banks ..are there not very many in each town..we have 2 in my town of 7,000 in Quebec, Canada..
@@zan4110 There is one, but many reasons why parents might not use them or children claim school meals. One solution would be to give all children school meals regardless of income perhaps.
*The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance.It's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation, it is always the poor who take the hit.*
*to be a successful in life required not only hard work but awareness and sometime opportunity at the moment, investment remains the best way to start.*
I agree with you. Investment is the key to sustaining your financial longevity. And not just any investment but an investment with guaranteed return.
*yeah investment is the key to sustaining your financial longevity but venturing into any legit investment or business without a proper guidance of an expert can lead to great loss too.*
*Obviously talking about been successful, I know I am blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as mrs ava Kimberly*
“A poor country with a few rich people” perfectly summarises the current situation. I really don’t think it’s being felt fully yet because everyone is either racking up debt or reducing their standard of living; but eventually it’s gonna crash
Wow, that's a pretty scary thought.
Given the direction of travel and open contempt for the underclasses in the UK who could possibly be surprised by this? The Tories are looking to exacerbate deprivation.
The solution to all this is very simple , never ever again with the Tories .
How is it the Tories fault? If people can't afford to feed their kids it's irresponsible to have them.
And what if you happened to have kids before the Tories took power? What if you had kids who are now 10 years old? You obviously can't spell your surname - too many "o"s.@@MCDONALD6969
How's it's the Tories fault 14 year's of austerity perhaps?
@@MCDONALD6969 then over time the low birth rates reduce the number of people in employment while also pushing the county's age demographic up. Elderly people are less economically productive, pay the least in tax yet consume the largest amount of public services. That, coupled with fewer young people in work paying tax, results in a massive decline.
You could of course bring in migrant labour but I'm guessing you're not particularly in favour of that either?
Despite what Thatcher said, there is such a thing as society and it's made up of a complex web of dependencies. If you change one thing you can guarantee it'll have far reaching consequences somewhere else.
@@pip1723 austerity was spending less on public services - what does that have to do with people not feeding their kids properly
I pray for my family and friends who live in the UK. I left a year ago and won’t work in the UK ; my life is at risk
Sobering summary at the end. Falling on deaf ears of the political class
I have never seen Britain so poor since the 1950's when I was born. But in the 1950's there were more freedoms and less restrictions. There were opportunities people could aim for, but now politicians have closed all avenues for normal people to advance themselves, removed manufacturing jobs where manual skills could be used and people are, by suppression of movement (due to cost by taxes) , confining people more in their homes. The taxation of personal transport has now resulted in people turning away from that industry, being unable to visit relatives, because in the 1980's people were told to "get on their bike" to find work, so families are fragmented and now cannot afford to visit each other. It is now cheaper to fly to Spain than to drive your car, or take a train to Scotland. If you can even afford to do either. Yes, we are back in time to just after WWII.
All the best from Poland.
Its so sad and really frightening what this country has been reduced to. It won't change much with a new government, they'll have to trawl the the wreckage left by the last lot, who will no doubt be jeering and putting obstacles in the way and who will NEVER admit that they made this mess.
uk had a better likestyle due to stealing from the world.
Cold snap last week , £90 for 1 weeks worth of gas and electric is a sick joke
At least wealthy pensioners got the cold weather payment, funded by you 👍🏼
@@jagman999Pensioners would have been in hospital with pneumonia without it.
Too true. I'm glad for this storm as the temperature at least went up a bit. 😔
Yes, my meter went crazy, what a madhouse.
On a so called Smart prepayment meter the costs are astronomical.
Britain is still very rich. Just won't bother about the poor citizens of Britain. See how much they can afford to give to Ukraine. $billions!!
I'm shocked that people are shocked this is happening. Years of austerity and refusal to help those struggling of course this was always going to be the natural conclusion of this toxic recipe for the UK. When people kept saying this was getting bad and things needed to change the torys got voted in over and over. Get the torys out and start healing the damage ASAP.
It is long term economic decline in the UK. The statistics are false we are not stagnating we are getting poorer. These diseases numbers from the NHS are the real figures
Well importing millions of people who can barely sustain themselves and their families and take a lot of benefits doesn’t help, not that Marr would say that.
No body is allowed to say this u tube would ban you the media is far removed from reality illusions?
As a child we collected rosehips which was made into rosehip sirup. We delivered these to school when they were picked. This gave us vitamin c. We did not have oranges and lemons. There was a lot of poverty in the UK in the late 1950's and 60's. I remember that poverty. It shaped my life and I was determined that I would never be poor again. I was lucky enough to get a grant from the government at the time and go to university. Such opportunities are now gone. I am horrified that people have to suffer from poverty as you have described with no way out. I no longer live in the UK.
You are clever to escape on time
Yes but it's sad that we are forced to leave because of rampant immigration and corruption. Where do you live now?
Well got-out Emma !
Norway but I still love the UK and have been back many times. I love the hiking and country pubs besides other things. @@Jalleur14325 '
At the time I had no idea I was escaping from anything. I wanted to travel and work in different countries but it seems I did the right thing. @@kalinarusi
I am South Korean here. I pray for UK and British people to come back to Lord.
I am often deeply sad how so many British people say badly about their country.
Dear Heavenly Father, please lead them to come back to you so they don’t need to struggle with their false identities and finally see how much God’s grace was poured down on this special country.
The Tories trashed the country and made the poor suffer and now they plan to persecute the disabled. This is stuff of real nightmares.
Get rid of FPTP, give Scots another referendum and end this dreadful state.
Never ever let Tories near power again.
England is mostly a right wing voting electorate.
Hardly surprising people are destitute when UC barely covers rent for a HMO room these days, eating is now a luxury for many.
I don't understand how HMO landlords justify the rent
@@keech100they like money.
They can't but they don't need to, they hold the power
How much do you think UC should be?
UC is designed to encourage people claiming it to get a job instead. Cynically, you could argue it’s doing its job.
I left the country 8 years ago and was very lucky as I came from a very poor background. I will never go back and now I have children i am so lucky they dont have to live in the UK. I speak to friends back there and I say if you can get out!
There was always a huge divide between rich and poor in England
And the people at my work in Cambridgeshire are still saying: "Yes, but if Labour were in power it would be even worse". Theres no helping this country.
South Holland Lincolnshire - one of the safest tory seats & pretty poor is where people say (of the tories) ‘Better the Devil you know’ WHY ??????
Yes there is ...vote DTReform after reform of our voting system !!
It's nice to know you're not working with idiots
Voting in a parliamentary elections will not fix this. There’s barely anything to distinguish one party from the next at this point. What needs reforming is neo- liberal capitalist approach to running and taxing an economy at a global level. And that is THE generational question of our time. It unfortunately is NOT what gets decided at a general election or a Brexit referendum or any such. What gets decided a British general election is of less and less consequence with each one that takes place. The voters are slowly waking up to this sad fact.
There are
1) poor countries that know they are poor
2) rich countries that think they are poor
3) rich countries that know they are rich
4) poor countries that think they are rich
The UK has moved from 3 to 4 under the Tories
😂😂😂😂😂😂
China has moved from 1 to 2. I just came back to Canada from visiting China and the two nations are headed in opposite directions.
I agree except that I'd argue it was mainly caused by central banking printing trillions of pounds out of thin air over the last 5 decades
It's crazy because so many countries which were once 3rd world are becoming 1st and over taking the west. Most of Asia has thrived, why? Because we the UK and west imported billions over the last 3 decades. Cars, phones, Tvs, clothes especially. It's karma in my eyes.
The only thing that is rich is the UK Passport; that is a saving grace for now
$45 Trillion was taken from India by Britain over 200 years of rule
Nope, even more
And rishi is our unelected representative here to steal it back off the working man and woman
And the British government spent it will.
My partner & myself are on universal credit four months now. My partner got made redundant before Christmas has been ill, over 4 months I’ve been trying everything to get a job. Avoid at all costs going on UC if you can. I’m praying we’re coming out of this soon.
Sadly things are only going to get worse in the UK / Western EU
Capitalism is unfair. Come to Africa and eat cheap african food at 100 dollars a month
Yes Jo, prayers Help. Psalm 91.
Letting in millions of foreigners, that's going help no end
It's pretty much the same everywhere
Short term a few people profit greatly
Longer term many suffer
The saddest part is that people vote for it
Jacob Rees Mog will be pleased
Another eye-watering example of this country being in decline for decades. Starmer doesn't have a magic wand but we are desperate for a change.
Why mention Starmer? He’s not in power. This is all on the disgraceful TORIES!
@@coppershark1973he will be, but won't have the money to do anything of real impact for a few years.
That's what he meant.
@@randomdaveUK
Starmer is a state placeman, Being a knight of the realm gives it away.
@@ScottishRoss27 the state don't have a say. It's the right wing media that controls power in parliament.
80% of the media in the UK is owned or run by those with attachments to the conservative party. 80%!
@@randomdaveUK
Starmer has worked for the state since 2008 when he appointed head of England prosecution service which is a non ministerial government department of the UK Government. He was rewarded by the state in 2014 when the state made him a knight of the realm for his services to the state.
Having regularly lived/travelled through various European countries, I sometimes get the impression that poverty somehow hits UK families in a particularly hard way. Its not a pleasant experience anywhere but the subtle difference on how both the families elsewhere, their wider network of friends/relatives and authorities take it more seriously gets them somewhat more prepared. The guy interviewed mentions Slovenia but even countries in eastern Europe that seem poorer in monetary terms might actually have its poorest people living better than their UK counterparts.
The argument is that Britain has regressed back to Victorian times but it's worse than that, it has actually regressed back to Georgian times. The historian Corelli Barnett summed it up perfectly when he said that the British had never had the mental revolution required to get themselves out of the idiotic colonialist master / servant mindset of the 1700s. This stilted archaic thinking is why the UK is trapped there and will remain there. I still see examples of it on forums like this where some university-of-life dullard asserts that the UK is poor because some other chump isn't working hard enough.
Very well said..and true
It's worse than that. I think we've regressed to Tudor times.!😊
It's the other way round. The ONLY way it's possible to make money in a globalised economy is to be colonial. How else can you increase your share of the world market, without massively increasing your sphere of influence as far as possible? See how China is growing and now earns more than the entire EU combined.
To be honest, the mindset of some people in this country is feudal.
@@Andrew-ti8hiConsidering that STD numbers have increased I agree regarding the Tudor rimes.
No matter how poor Britain is, it still wants to participate in all the wars in the world, and it still believes that it is the greatest country in the world too.
Very true
Britain is not poor, its extremely wealthy.
@@happyapple4269 I fail to understand that you can be wealthy when you’re 3 trillion £ 3, 000,000,000 quids in debt
@@MookMineola usa debt 30 trillion
I've just been working at a house with 4 supercars. They spent £1700 on 1 car tyre. The rich people have stolen all of the money.
From April 2023 the benefit cap was increased to £25,323 in London and £22,020 outside London. Some people don't get this much from working.
Today’s Britain where you wait years for surgical intervention, doctors appointments can take days if not weeks, millions rely on food banks, millions more live in poverty, some areas witness falls in life expectancy and everywhere sees living standards plummeting, buses and trains turn up if they want to, crisis exists everywhere, privatisation has been a huge success hasn’t it ?
Just waited 6 weeks for a doctors appointment
Mass migration has as well.
@@harveytheman7493 about right
Socialism is never the answer. Look at Argentina. The problem is corruption. The answer is not forced wealth redistribution. That's how you become Venezuela.
What if you have an infection and need an antibiotic? Surely waiting weeks to see a doctor would be quite dangerous no?
There is a cultural problem with Vitamin D as well. If you have darker skin, there is almost no chance of getting vitamin D from the British sun and it is also very difficult to get from food. The only answer is that vitamin D needs to be given out in tablet form or put into basic foods as it once was.... It's also the reason, why natives of these isles are light skinned, to absorb vitamin D from a weak sun....
Well said and COVID impacting on black more than white people. It had nothing to do with discrimination it was more to do with the lack of vit D
Interesting observation.
But, why chinese and Japanese is yellow!?😅
I take vid D supplements especially in winter when 90% of time the sky is grey.
Vitamin D needs to be 'given out'. LOL. Vitamin D supplements are 3p-6p per tablet. Buy some.
A poor Country with a few incredibly Rich people & those very wealthy people do every greedy trick to get more money & every trick to pay less tax, Sunak & predecessors must be very proud
Just like in India
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 Also Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brazil, and many more. It's almost as if this is the Default Model for humans to organise themselves into a Society.
Poverty us in America as well. Not yet as bad as Britain. Bad fast food , soft drinks, snacks, processed foods.
We all need to grow a garden! Eat fresh foods.
People have on average £10,000 less disposable income than they did in 2010.
This is what happens when people buy into the extreme libertarian ideology that government should not intervene to protect its citizens from poverty
Here’s an example my friend is a nurse and her wage has only gone up £200 per/month in 24 yrs. my wage has only gone up by £500 it’s diabolical. Nurses in England are worse off than in Scotland 🏴
@@kinghenryxl1747strikes!!!! I’m a nurse of 29 yrs and skipping meals so I can pay my bills. I put £10 worth of petrol in my car to get me to work and I’m not poor or destitute like some. Do you know there are patients that have to ask for charity to bury their loved ones.
2010 that’s when I can remember the rot setting in. Can’t take anymore
It’s worse than that much worse. I work on the front line of the NHS have for 29yrs. It’s really really bad
Brexit benefit!
And here we are with people on the streets clapping for a royal family....sheesh...
Almost feels dystopian. Clapping for billionaires. It's embarrassing.
@@Natta44 I agree.
Abolish the monarchy
Every member of the cabinet is richer now than they were 14 years ago. And yet children are getting colder, hungrier and smaller. Still, every member of the cabinet is richer now than they were 14 years ago. Well done you!
*_This should be news!_*
*Malnutrition rickets and scurvy soaring in the United Kingdom!*
Thank you for this broadcast.
Shocking indictment of the Tory party and voters .
Make sure the tories are never in power again..
Another major indicator of “want” is a parent who won’t eat in order for their child to be able to. This is disgraceful.
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Yeah that's probably the parents who drive a car, own an expensive mobile phone and watch Netflix and sky sports ... and then go begging off a food bank. If you can't afford to feed your kids, don't have them ... simple !!!
Can't afford to eat? Why the massive obesity problem
@@lorrainevart8827 Most restaurants are packed , all deliveroo drivers working flat out , football venues all packed . Where is the poverty !?
@@william_marshal It does seem an expensive hobby !!!
Tony Blair is to blame.
I wonder what would Charles Dickens have thought of Victorian era deprivation in modern UK?
Given it was much worse in his day he would probably be impressed by modern uk sadly
His opinions are quite well documented. Wonder no longer.
He would have thought you were talking out of your hat!😊
The glory of the Victorian era
The new British Empire
@@zeeone4492the English working class were the first, and will be the last, bit of the empire.