"DIFFERENT" LOCKER (Brake Line Lock) - Technology used for drag racing applied to off-road

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • I didn't think an AWD was capable of driving up "difficult" 4WD terrain. I've been chatting with a Legendary Honda Tuner, known as E-MAN, for quite some time. He's had this idea to implement technology that he uses in drag racing and apply it to an off-road application. BTW, He's held records for quickest 8th and 9th gen Honda Civics, and one of the FK Civic Type R he built is capable of doing the quarter mile in 10 seconds and is working on bringing that time to 9 seconds. He's very respected in the import drag racing scene. He said they use something called a "line locker", and this helps momentarily lock wheels to assist with doing burn outs to warm up there tires before a run. A "line locker" also is used as LAUNCH CONTROL. So, E-MAN applied "line lock" technology to be used in an off-road application.
    This isn't the first time this has been done. Custom buggy crawlers always had the ability to brake individual wheels. This tech has been around for decades, it's just that no one (to my knowledge) has tried to use solenoids to lock brake pressure. What I witnessed was unbelievable. I would have never imagined I would be able to drive up steep, rutted and loose terrain with a front wheel in the air! This would be game changing for open differential systems, especially ones that only pulsate a wheel with no traction.
    In this video, the brake line lock is applied to a very worthy AWD vehicle, an iVTM4 equipped 2020 Ridgeline. It has a 20.4:1 crawl ratio (same gearing as a Toyota Tacoma in 4LO 2nd gear), a good torque converter that is not prone to stalling, and 280HP/262TQ with a 11.5:1 compression ratio. The only glaring weakness of this AWD platform is the open front differential. See how this "Brake Line Locker Mod" greatly increases capability!
    There's a few things that I didn't go over in this video. I really wanted to end the video with some closing words, but I was trying to hit a UA-cam 1 week deadline. I simply ran out of time. I wanted to say that I personally don't know how effective this mod would work on other platforms. A lot of my Subaru friends want to know how this mod would perform on their vehicles, and I just don't know. I also have friends with CRVs that want this system, and again, I also don't know how effective it would be, but the good thing is that the ABS modules in the midsized Hondas are similar (maybe even the same) as the CRV/HRV.
    I'm really big on making sure I don't "OVER SENSATIONALIZE" the capabilities of an AWD platform. I wanted to end the video with showing you how easily a Toyota 4runner TRD PRO would climb the steep rutted hill in 4LO. With all the flex from a solid rear axle and body on frame construction, the wheels don't even go up in the air. The formidable deep ruts you saw in this video are still within the articulation limits of a 4runner, so it would never break traction. So why not buy a 4runner? Because I find the onroad driving dynamics unsatisfactory. That's my personal preference.
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  • @chevy66driver
    @chevy66driver 8 місяців тому +4

    Fit, finish, and attention to detail shows the skill of this install. NA Performance looks legit af

  • @HablemosDelHuerto
    @HablemosDelHuerto Рік тому +5

    I love my Black Edition. These are excellent vehicles. That addition is awesome

  • @stevenpappas5331
    @stevenpappas5331 2 роки тому +6

    It was awesome to meet you guys last night at HD and thanks for showing me your channel. I also appreciate you showing me the Emanuel's Ridgeline. It's exciting to see all the available upgrades for my new Ridgeline. I'm looking forward to checking out the rest of your videos. thanks again!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      Nice to meet you too Steven. You should come out with us sometime. We’re on the Facebook page “Crossoverlanding (HUB)”

  • @gabrielalcocer8051
    @gabrielalcocer8051 2 роки тому +13

    Badass, Jon!!! No doubt this will push Honda further, thanks to guys like you and Eman, great content!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +5

      There’s some amazing people and family owned companies involved in making the Midsized Honda/Acura platforms more capable. Shout out to E-man, Traxda and Nolodesigns!

    • @gabrielalcocer8051
      @gabrielalcocer8051 2 роки тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Amen!!! I’m still saving for some mods and thanks again for your recommendations via Insta!

  • @donkeyrider
    @donkeyrider 2 роки тому +10

    Shocked how well ridgeline did there. I have taken my GX 460 on the testing grounds with a 2.5 inch lift and it handled like a champ. Did not think my 22 RL can do this But seems like yes it can

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, body on frame / solid rear axle vehicles will flex through these deep ruts like a champ. The driver of the Ridgeline attempted these ruts without his line lock system and wasn’t able to make it up, Atleast not intentionally driving into the ruts. I have a friend with a Honda Pilot that got up by straddling as much as he could and using momentum. The BALLS system is a game changer! I now have the system in my Honda Passport and have driven up a few obstacles that I thought I had zero chance with.

    • @donkeyrider
      @donkeyrider Рік тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring where can.I purchase this system if you dont mind

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  Рік тому +2

      @@donkeyrider Manny from NA performance hasn’t put it up for sale yet, but you can try contacting him. His Instagram is @k20nartpro. Or visit his website.

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 2 роки тому +11

    When I saw this post I honestly thought someone hacked the rear diff and forced it into locking as much as it can. This is pretty sweet though and really highlights how important a front traction aid really is. People think because the rear handles more torque that it's what matters but in reality it has more weight to force the rear suspension down and typically gets good traction while the front is unloaded and cannot generate much torque due to the spinning wheel limiting the open-diff's ability to transfer it.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      Eman made me realized that if Honda just used a more robust traction control system, the Passport would be much more capable. If the new Honda trailsport has a better brake vectoring system with the Honda 10 automatic AT, and that’s all is offered…. I wouldn’t even be that mad 😂. I won’t even be surprised if that’s all that done. It makes a big difference. From what I saw, this might help me take on some level 5 trails. I seriously don’t want to up the difficulty. My friends that attempt level 5 trails in Toyotas break stuff. NO THANKS!!
      Anyways, looking forward to meet you man! Are you still going on the Utah trip?

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Absolutely going! Going to be an adventure. Just need to get a tow strap, I lost mine in Baja.

    • @mattday1187
      @mattday1187 Рік тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring how do you purchase?

  • @olliechristopher467
    @olliechristopher467 2 роки тому +15

    This is an old trick from way back Jon. We used to use individual braking in our baja bugs for turning and getting unstuck.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I see this technology used on the custom bug crawlers that can switch from FWD, RWD and 4WD. I had no idea it would be implemented with some solenoids 😃

    • @brianmoore4778
      @brianmoore4778 6 місяців тому +1

      Hand brake slightly applied has same results. Got stuck in a 1991 Toyota MR2 in iceplant . Low profile tires pulled e brake slightly popped right out. Fun to see people impressed with super expensive 4x4 struggling on simple obstacles. 4 wheeling the Mohave desert for 50 yrs 2wd, To locked land rovers

  • @GrizzlyPath
    @GrizzlyPath 2 роки тому +6

    With all the left foot braking you’ve been doing this is the next step! Looking forward to seeing how you use it to tackle tricky trails!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      I know I’m probably end up being dumb and try to tackle harder trails, but I will tell you that I will try NOT TO! 🤣🤣
      I just want to do the same moderately difficult 4WD trails that I’ve been doing but easier. Haha! We will see how that goes 😂

  • @milfordcivic6755
    @milfordcivic6755 3 місяці тому +1

    Watching the capability and amount of abuse these Honda trucks can take gives me extra confidence in having bought a 2024 TrailSport last month. Given I only use mine for commuting, moving the odd piece of furniture or a dump run, it should last a long time.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  3 місяці тому

      I have 150K on the odometer of my Passport. It’s really 163K though, because of my taller tires.

  • @hukmai
    @hukmai 2 роки тому +2

    Damn Jon back it it again with a white ridgeline LOL
    but seriously amazing! i hope Eman becomes regular feature seems like the perfect new overlander

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +3

      Once he gets his product finalized, I need to do another trip with him so we can shoot more content.

  • @Scottstunts
    @Scottstunts 2 роки тому +4

    The Ridgeline is surprisingly capable

  • @FatalAnimal
    @FatalAnimal 2 роки тому +5

    Super interesting! Technology like this would be super useful for people that love their AWD vehicles. I love it =) You are right the Passport and Ridgeline have much better on-road dynamics (and gas mileage) compared to the 4runner as do most AWD vehicles That said the Limited 4runner has less tip and dive and body roll than the other trims of 4runner with the Xreas suspension. My wife made me get the limited trim as she got motion sickness. As with everything thing the trade off is it's harder to lift and approach angles and departure angles are a tiny bit less.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      Oh that’s interring. I know Toyotas KDSS system 😃, but Mostly everyone I know has a TRD Off-road toyota. sounds like a good balance!

  • @MPTrailGroup
    @MPTrailGroup 2 роки тому +2

    Dude that is crazy good !! game changer. You be tackling them obstacles like a mountain goat. 😆 Cant wait for you to test this especially the longer term.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      I think I might be able to squeeze another difficulty level with this mod. Maybe I’ll be able to do level 5 trails. Atleast some of them.

    • @MPTrailGroup
      @MPTrailGroup 2 роки тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring you absolutely can. You are pretty solid on the traction department. As long as you have the clearance, you are golden imo.

  • @robertyoung8289
    @robertyoung8289 2 роки тому +2

    Nothing short of impressive.

  • @theninja001
    @theninja001 9 місяців тому +1

    I wanted to use turning brakes like on a sandrail, but this will be so much easier! Awesome!

  • @MC4D.
    @MC4D. 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, pretty impressive.

  • @irfanspace
    @irfanspace 2 роки тому +4

    Its like Toyota A-Track system in 4Runner ,HONDA is offering Trail edition but actually its a same Passport with different look .

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +3

      It’s like a manual A-TRAC or brake lock in Nissan 4WDs. For 2023, the trailsport is just a sticker package, but they plan to increase capability for 2024.

    • @irfanspace
      @irfanspace 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring thanks👍

  • @JDS-Dalton
    @JDS-Dalton 2 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this video since I saw your clips on IG! That is friggin badass, can't wait to see what kind of terrain you take your Honda over now!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      So, I think with the compression of your Forester wilderness and the gearing, it might be a good candidate for this system. I don’t think it would work as good on vehicles that are quick to stall.

    • @JDS-Dalton
      @JDS-Dalton 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring it certainly would be pretty cool to see if it'd work. Unfortunately, I don't have the skills to try it myself, nor do I know of a local shop that'd be familiar with trying something like that

  • @ragdolltrucking
    @ragdolltrucking 2 роки тому +3

    This is how the “e-diff” works on the Volkswagen Touareg, Volkswagen says its for driving on sand to build up a pile of sand to drive onto, but what its really doing is holding the brake for 3-4 seconds rather then just randomly jabbing at the brakes like normal traction control

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      What Gen? I know the 1st Gen has a real 4WD system, the 2nd Gen is open diff AWD with brake vectoring

    • @ragdolltrucking
      @ragdolltrucking 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring it was the first gen, it was explained on an “off-roading” dvd that came with the Touareg

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      @@ragdolltrucking the 1st Gen touaregs are badass! They also had a rear locker option and 4LO. Very cool machines and over engineered for their time.

    • @jmbwashi
      @jmbwashi 2 роки тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring The first gen also had a optional front locker, but they are super rare.

  • @chazmic
    @chazmic 2 роки тому +2

    Agree, this will be a useful tool in your off-road arsenal
    Also, Landrover has mastered this system, but the LR system is dynamic and seamless

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Land Rover made a very sophisticated system back in the day. They’re the pioneers! Thanks Land Rover!

    • @chazmic
      @chazmic 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Jon,
      Check my video of tip over challenge. I'm on 3 wheels the entire accent, you can watch the transition from left wheel in the air to right wheel in the air at the top of the obstacle, it's very clear the system works a treat. See you out there!

  • @paulny61
    @paulny61 2 роки тому +1

    Great content as always Jon. Thank you for sharing on SERO 🤙🏻

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      I knew you all would appreciate seeing the NARTPRO do TRDPRO things 😜

  • @tombley8731
    @tombley8731 2 роки тому +3

    That's awesome! great job E-Man. BTW that isn't a 2021 Ridgeline. It's a 2020 with that front end. 🙂

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      This is one step for Honda, one GIANT LEAP for NART NATION!!! 🤣, so at 0:30 the Ridgeline is listed as a 2020 model 😇

    • @tombley8731
      @tombley8731 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Jon, I didn't see that on the video, you are correct in the video. I was reading the description below the video where it says it's a 2021. 🙂
      "In this video, the brake line lock is applied to a very worthy AWD vehicle, an iVTM4 equipped 2021 Ridgeline."

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      @@tombley8731 thanks 🙏. I see I have a few other typos and grammar errors too. I’ve been lying in bed for the past 2 hours just Being lazy 🤣. I’ll make the corrects

  • @scuzzyfpv
    @scuzzyfpv 2 роки тому +2

    This is basically the BLD (brake lock differential) that the wranglers have had for over a decade. The traction control would apply the brake to the wheel that doesn't have traction

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      I heard they’ve been using this tech for 60 years.

  • @PatrickRich
    @PatrickRich 2 роки тому +2

    im conflicted. As others have said, its an old trick for off-roaders because it works...but I'm a little sketched out about it being sold for highway vehicles. The reason OE's don't do this is because its a bag of liabilities. Too few safeguards, too high of consequences.
    There are ways an OE could do this more safely - increase brake line pressure on corners that have topped out, but only below 10 mph and only in 1st gear as an example. I've also seen Subaru owners do this with the parking brake, by splitting it out into 2 different parking brake handles, but since the parking brake is a mechanical secondary brake system you don't have to mess with the factory stuff and its a lot safer. When it comes to mods, I draw the line at my brake hydraulics.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      I appreciate you chiming in Patrick! So, I had alot of concerns about this system. You’ll see in the early design there was no “kill switch”. That terrified me. The new iteration has the main switch now. Also, if the unit fails, it fails OPEN. If there’s any problems with leaking, I’d just bypass the solenoid. This mod will only be for the “EXPERIENCED”. If used incorrectly, it can be very dangerous. So, I’ll be offroading about 300 miles through South East Utah in 2 days (for about a week). It’ll be a good test!

    • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
      @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 роки тому +1

      yes.. it's already a thing on production trucks.. it's called ATRAC... and Jeep also has a version of it too

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 2 роки тому +1

    Great solution.

  • @StephenGomez21
    @StephenGomez21 2 роки тому +1

    Hurst line lock been around for a long time. Never got to add them to my Camaro's but I had friend that had them... cool to see them being used in a different way.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      E-man don’t mess around 😄. He was telling me about $7000 stand alone MOTEK ECUs they use on drag cars. Really cool visiting his shop.

    • @StephenGomez21
      @StephenGomez21 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring oh yea I've spent my share of money on performance mods in my life lol

  • @MDXtreme
    @MDXtreme 2 роки тому +1

    Hell yeah!!! Thanks for this video John game changer for the honda/acura platform for off roading

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      YEP! Just give it about 1 month for more testing before EMAN offers this kit for sale.

    • @MDXtreme
      @MDXtreme 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring saving money just for that as we speak lol. Thanks to you our rigs will be that much more capable

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      @@MDXtreme oh! This is all EMAN, but he did tell me a story. He was about to trade in his Ridgeline until he saw my videos. He saw what iVTM4/SH-AWD was able to do and that convinced him to keep his. He’s also saying that someone is working on a super charger kit for the J35. 100 more HP/TQ. Exciting stuff!

  • @octurbojoe
    @octurbojoe 2 роки тому +3

    This is frickin' amazing!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      Just imagine what was going through my mind when I saw how much of a difference this made in person. We were all amazed! Even the guy that put together the system. So, you’re a knowledgeable guy, and I have alot of Subaru friends asking, how do you think this would work in Subarus?? Old and new?!

    • @octurbojoe
      @octurbojoe 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring This looks like it will work better on Subaru TR580s; mainly on the Forester Wilderness' and Crosstrek Sport/Limited with the 2.5L engine. They both have adequate torque, with the most aggressive "1st gear ratio" above the rest at 4.07:1. Even more than the OB Wilderness.
      As you've already noticed, I have a TORQ locker installed so this will definitely be advantageous for me. I currently use X-Mode and it works well, however, it's not perfect. It has to sense wheel spin in order for it to transfer torque to the wheel that isnt free spinning. With B.A.L.L.S, I'd would be able to actuate the solenoids on demand without allowing the traction control to figure it out.
      I can already see the TR690s from the Outback Onyx/Wilderness and Ascent failing because they have a tendency to stall way more than TR580s. You've seen it first hand.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      @@octurbojoe the compression ratio makes a difference too! Something that the guy that created BALLS pointed out. The outback wilderness is 10.6:1 vs. the Forester wilderness at 12:1

    • @octurbojoe
      @octurbojoe 2 роки тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Correct, and the OBW's 1st gear is only 3.490:1. The '21 Crosstrek Sport, which I have, shares the same 2.5L engine and TR580 transmission as the Forester Wilderness, except it has a 3.7:1 final drive, as opposed to 4.11:1. The FW also has an upgraded X-Mode that can stay engaged past 25mph (which I don't care for) and a CVT cooler that bumps towing capacity up some. That's it. I've never seen an Outback Wilderness do anything remotely crazy as I have on my Crosstrek. All I've seen the OBW do is stall, stall, and stall. Quite disappointing for a CUV that Subaru markets as a flagship outdoor model.

  • @zampara236
    @zampara236 Місяць тому

    Two hight sensors on each front end can be helpful for driver, he couldnt realize which tire is on air, also some automation is possible with that sensor data.

  • @bradenb
    @bradenb 2 роки тому +1

    Super cool tech. I also like that--unlike a lot of diff lockers--they should engage immediately. I know with my Taco I sometimes have to rock back and forth to get it to lock.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      At 15:00 E-man complains about the cheap solenoids Toyota uses to engage 4WD and the rear diff locker. Everyone gets smoke 🤣 even Honda. He says If Toyota didn’t use $5 solenoids, there would be reliable engagement. He also says some people just switch to manual linkage 😃

    • @jmbwashi
      @jmbwashi 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring I also like how light weight it is compared to a “real” locking differential.

  • @owequitit
    @owequitit 2 роки тому +2

    I am so happy to see this video after watching your IG videos a million times.
    Very effective solution to a simple problem. I was thinking about how nice it would have been with a front LSD in conjunction with the rear diff on this platform, and then your video popped!
    I suspect Honda is very seriously looking at traction control/brake based solutions to improve the next gen platform’s capabilities.
    I don’t think these have any of it because ultimately, Honda tends to lock in the design of the basic platform and then typically doesn’t add or change much. When the current gen Pilot would have been locked back in 2014 or so, they probably had no idea the “soft roading” craze was coming. Much like the out of date infotainment, they just didn’t change it much.
    I hope they add some front traction aids of some sort on the Trail Sport editions going forward.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      The only issue with the iVTM4 platform is the front open diff. I always wondered if Honda might be able to implement a front twin clutch diff. I think that would be an extremely capable system. But, if all honda does is beefs up the brake vectoring system to put it on par with Toyotas A-trac then I wouldn’t even be mad 😂

  • @durtyflyadventures
    @durtyflyadventures 2 роки тому +2

    That is awsome Jon!!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      I’m excited Nick! Remember that rock I tried to drive up to test my rock sliders? I should be able to drive up it now 🤣🤣🤣.

    • @durtyflyadventures
      @durtyflyadventures 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring for sure, it will be a piece of cake now

  • @autoduel
    @autoduel 2 роки тому +3

    I like how this can be applied to any vehicle with brakes. Even those with no traction control. Easier to install than lockers if they're even made, performs like a-trac. Anyone with Arduino programming that can tap into the wheel speed sensors?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      I’m not sure what Arduino programming is, but I think this system would be perfect for your Highlander

    • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
      @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 роки тому +2

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring aurdino is a controller. it can sense the wheel speed sensors and then apply the brakes accordingly to lock the differential... basically a homebrew ATRAC is possible with it

    • @autoduel
      @autoduel 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring I already got the parts. But I think there might be a way of auto-activation....

  • @Ww8.3
    @Ww8.3 2 роки тому +1

    Jon slowly turning his car into a 4Runner of which he originally had ;)

  • @saliston
    @saliston 2 роки тому +1

    This just shows how good the Ivtm system is

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      Also shows how much better it would be with a more aggressive brake vectoring system on the front differential. This video displays how much of the work the twin clutch rear differential does. Now if HONDA can put twin clutch in the front, iVTM4 would be amazing! I’d be happy with automated BALLS though 😃

  • @christiancruz6489
    @christiancruz6489 2 роки тому +1

    Game Changer!!!

  • @060racing8
    @060racing8 8 місяців тому

    I actually used this once to get unstuck in a stock Subaru Outback put a small set vice grips on one of the breaklines

  • @fishtacoma
    @fishtacoma 2 роки тому +2

    Oh wow, I admit, that's pretty cool!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks FISH!!! You weren’t first this time tho🥺.

    • @fishtacoma
      @fishtacoma 2 роки тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring I'll prop my eyelids with toothpicks, awaiting the next video!

  • @stay_in_adventure
    @stay_in_adventure 2 роки тому +1

    It would awesome if we had an aftermarket A-Trac system. If something was open sourced, imagine all the cool things we can do. Trail turns, better traction, different braking patterns for sand, trailer brake sway control, etc

    • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
      @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 роки тому +1

      ATRAC is awesome 👌

    • @thexennialdad
      @thexennialdad 2 роки тому

      @@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I feel like this could be used in conjunction with A-TRAC to overcome my biggest issue with it. When you're going uphill on loose terrain, it's send it or go home. I spin tires often and chop back and forth with A-TRAC, if you feather it goes nowhere but at that right amount it throws you over. Something like this would hold pressure giving constant power to the grip wheel. I've always wondered if you can tap into the system via can-bus

    • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
      @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 роки тому +1

      @@thexennialdad typically on uphill loose surface turn off vcs and atrac and send it full speed like you said...

  • @timhardman4764
    @timhardman4764 2 роки тому +5

    Amazing JonDZ...can this help a 06 RL or is the gear ratio just not up to it? Can't wait to see you in future trail riding with this new upgrade.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      I think it would help! Should be a direct bolt on. According to E-man, the brake systems are pretty much the same?

  • @krisw8597
    @krisw8597 2 роки тому +2

    I really like the SHAWD system on my wife’s MDX, I think that Honda has the best AWD system out there right now (coming from a ZR2 owner). My question is, do you see the transmission temps raise alot?, I have seen other channels that after time the transmission will run hot and they need to shut the truck down until it cools. This happens mostly on longer obstacles and or longer duration of climbing. Regardless very impressed with what he came up with! Great vid👍

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +3

      That’s on the Honda 6AT equipped iVTM4 vehicles. They only have a 14.3:1 crawl ratio. The ZF9 or HONDA/Acura 10AT equipped vehicles have a 20.4:1 and 22.4:1 crawl ratio, which is class leading.

    • @k20z3allmotorFTW
      @k20z3allmotorFTW 2 роки тому +2

      My trans temps where fine during all the obstacles we tried and I’ve never seen the awd system to hot messages come on which many channels confuse with the trans over heating lol. This BALLS system should prevent the hot messages for the diff since it’s making it spin less

    • @krisw8597
      @krisw8597 2 роки тому +1

      @@k20z3allmotorFTW very nice, was definitely impressed with the work that was done to it and how the truck performed. Great job!

  • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
    @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 роки тому +2

    this is sort of a crude ATRAC system and seen on Toyota and Lexus trucks. The proper name is brake-locking differential. Jeep now even has a system like ATRAC.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      This tech has been around for half a decade. The custom crawler buggies are able to lock individual brakes on all 4 wheels.

  • @RobbieHerrera
    @RobbieHerrera 2 роки тому +1

    That was awesome!

  • @davidleroth8644
    @davidleroth8644 Рік тому

    The absolutely needs to become available for the element

  • @hugomartinez5261
    @hugomartinez5261 Рік тому +1

    I need those headlights !

  • @robbergstrom943
    @robbergstrom943 2 роки тому +1

    Sweet mod! I would love to see how much you could tighten up a trail u-turn locking up one side.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      It would probably be pretty effective going I. Reverse. The Land Cruiser 200 has the trail brake button that locks a rear wheel. I think it might be too hard for the passport to pivot off a front tire going forward, but will probably work great in reverse.

  • @davidwelty9763
    @davidwelty9763 6 місяців тому

    Ridgelines are sold in only 3 countries; US, Canada and the Philippines. You should see the crappy muddy jungle roads these navigate on the remote islands. These are well respected over there.

  • @jg8263
    @jg8263 2 роки тому +2

    Sign me up for mine! This is brilliant!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      It’s game changing!! I thought I’d have to wait for a mechanical differential locker to be able to drive up terrain like this! I would email him and get yourself on the list while it’s still short 😃

    • @jg8263
      @jg8263 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring all I want now is an aftermarket portal axle lift for AWD independent suspension vehicles, with options to elect no down gearing or a gear reduction in the portal. That way you can decide before buying whether you want gearing at the expense of fuel economy or not.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      @@jg8263 it’s possible! Traxda was looking at this upgrade.

    • @jg8263
      @jg8263 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring now that you mention it, I think you talked about it at the end of the video on the rock sliders. Thanks for reminding me!

  • @mzbikesandcars
    @mzbikesandcars 2 роки тому +3

    Pretty cool! As the Ridgeline becomes more capable, does the transmission start to get hot? Any plans for an additional cooler? Seems like a good investment with some slower speed high torque application.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +4

      Mounting taller tires will make the transmission fluids get hotter. With my 2.5” taller tires, The 20.4:1 crawl ratio drops to 18.7:1, which is still class leading for an AWD, but 32.1” tires is also class leading 😃. All Ridgelines have an OEM transmission cooler, but they don’t have a puller fan in front, so adding one will make a huge difference. The ZF9 equipped Hondas are not prone to an overheated transmission though. It will take a lot of abuse to get
      It hot.

  • @rockyboy401
    @rockyboy401 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Jon, really enjoy your vids,leaning toward the Ridgeline. Am hoping for Honda to offer a Trail Sport version for ‘23, like it’s interior. Bummer that a factory built more off roader version won’t happen till 2024. Thought I read that Honda has a new platform coming out. Was wondering if you have looked at Flatout Suspension? Also was curious if you knew if there is a clear version of the Avery film.
    Regarding the front brake line locking system, maybe a light in the center to indicate that the system has been engaged, still keeping the left and right lights. Just a thought.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      I had a friend that purchased the flat out suspension kit, but it didn’t fit, so I do not have any confidence in the product. My friend put them on blast on social media (which wasn’t the nicest then thing to do), and the response by flatout suspension was disappointing (they played victim). I don’t know one single person that runs the flatout kit on the current midsized Honda platform.

  • @eseymour355
    @eseymour355 2 роки тому +1

    So he addressed it with the Subaru, but Honda CR-V would be a no-no due to the lack of a robust AWD system? Bummer. But, this is pretty freaking sweet!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      He said that CVT Subarus already are able to brake lock 2 wheels but the torque converter stalls out, so he’s worried that if this system was used, it might not be effective. This would be fantastic on a Subaru with the 4EAT/5EAT transmission or any manual. The CRV has potentials too! You can read my video description for more info that I didn’t have time to put into the video.

    • @eseymour355
      @eseymour355 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring ah that makes sense! All the stuff coming out nowadays for subarus makes me wish I hadn’t sold my forester that was a manual! Only problem is that I was the only one in the family that could drive it😂 thanks for all the info man and keep up the good work!

  • @89crix
    @89crix 3 місяці тому

    Would love to have it on my Honda Element

  • @ruslan85g
    @ruslan85g 2 роки тому +1

    If I understand correctly, now only cameras need to be added so that the driver can see which wheel to block?😃

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn’t use BALLS as a proactive measure. As shown in this video the iVTM4 system is quite capable. I think this system is best used reactively.
      I’m sure someone out there might want to use this for Hells Gate in Moab,Utah and using BALLs proactively would make a lot of sense 😃

  • @marks6072
    @marks6072 Рік тому +1

    Looks like in '20 Honda switched the Ridgeline over to use Acura's SHAWD rear diff along with the new ZF9 transmission.. How durable is that ZF9 from what you've seen so far????? (Excellent vid btw)

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  Рік тому

      The 2017 Ridgelines had Acuras twin clutch, then in 2020 got the ZF9. The ZF9 is solid. Check out my latest video, “100K major service”. This is my first HONDA and I’m very impressed and satisfied with how overbuilt and tough this thing is.

  • @amandasantos-we3zp
    @amandasantos-we3zp Рік тому +1

    I wonder if this application would work with the Ridgeline with the 6 speed transmission?

  • @alexs.5675
    @alexs.5675 2 роки тому +1

    Old school but effective

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco Рік тому +1

    That really is bad ass

  • @seandenney5780
    @seandenney5780 2 роки тому +2

    I noticed you have dust boots on your struts. Where did you get those?

  • @derrickdrew17
    @derrickdrew17 7 місяців тому

    I bet that Transmission was getting hot

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  7 місяців тому

      It didn't. With the ZF9 transmission and a 4.334 final drive, it isn't stressful. It's like a Toyota driving up in 4Lo 2nd gear. Coincidentally, we just got back from another trip out to the offroad park. The obstacles are even more rutted out, and he did them all. It was hilarious, he drove up a new obstacle wall that's about anywhere between 50 to 60 degrees (maybe more). It was too steep for the Jeeps to crawl, they would just slide back down. The Ridgeline climbed up at a constant half throttle and got up.

  • @adventuretrails1ato
    @adventuretrails1ato 2 роки тому +1

    wow 😳!!

  • @coachzellers
    @coachzellers 2 роки тому +4

    how can he figure this out but engineers from Honda don't want to readily put this in as a feature. i feel like they should do the offroad version like the trailsport. People with a passion and a little know how are amazing.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      Yep! Witnessing what this mod could do made me realize that the iVTM4 Hondas could have been so much more with a more robust traction control system on the front diff.

    • @joobaggs6886
      @joobaggs6886 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah the Ford bronco has this but for the rears to aid in turning raidius. Pretty neat tech!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      @@joobaggs6886 yeah, I guess it might work for me on reverse 🤣. I believe the Land Cruiser 200 and Lexus LX570 has it too.

  • @DJAlexAz
    @DJAlexAz 2 роки тому +1

    Cool

  • @rollandsaxton
    @rollandsaxton 2 роки тому

    I'm new to the Ridgeline I have a 2014 4x4 will this work on mine or does it need that 9 speed transmission. Great video guys

  • @BorellaFamilyAdventures
    @BorellaFamilyAdventures 2 роки тому +1

    Nice stuff here! So each of the actuators is only tuned to apply enough brake pressure to not "lock" the individual front wheel completely but enough to assist the traction control further?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      The brake pressure is manually set during left foot braking. Just press the button at the desired brake pressure. For example, you can lightly press the brake pedal and then lock the driver wheel at, let’s say 10%, and then you can press the brake harder and lock the passenger brake at 75%. Then all you have to do is drive over the obstacle. Once you’re over the obstacle disengage. This mod should only be used by people that have an understanding about it.
      For the iVTM4 HONDA application, it solves it’s one glaring weakness, the open front differential.

  • @RodrigoGarcia-hp3qk
    @RodrigoGarcia-hp3qk 2 роки тому +3

    Would this work on a Gen 1 Ridgeline?

  • @juliosdiy3206
    @juliosdiy3206 Рік тому

    Dahaaaaaaaam this wat im talkin about real 4x4 right thr.

  • @amandasantos-we3zp
    @amandasantos-we3zp Рік тому

    Will there be a kit available in the near future? I would like to purchase!

  • @mattday1187
    @mattday1187 Рік тому +1

    How do you purchase this product? Thanks

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  Рік тому

      You can contact Manny with New Age Performance (Ventura, CA). You would have to work it out with him.

  • @jacobduncan8875
    @jacobduncan8875 2 роки тому +1

    To all the it's not a truck it's a Van with a bed people I say not bad for a minivan.

  • @johnj2496
    @johnj2496 2 роки тому +1

    Air cooled VW dune buggies been doing this since 60s with turning brakes

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      Yeah I know custom offroad vehicles have been able to individually brake wheels.

  • @Ivyoffroadadventurefamily
    @Ivyoffroadadventurefamily 2 роки тому +2

    Did he come out with the kit yet? 2020 Honda Pilot.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      The lift kit NARTPRO uses is a Frankenstein combination. Basically, it’s the Traxda 3.5” lift kit with the front spacer reduced from 3” down to 1.5” and front and rear Ridgeline Eibach springs added. I don’t see anything for the Passport / Pilot yet.

    • @Ivyoffroadadventurefamily
      @Ivyoffroadadventurefamily 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Yeah, I got the lift kit from traxda the one named after you. I was wondering about the line locker. I dont see much else out there, other then your channel. Next challenge is trying to find a shop to install the kit, way over here on the east coast. Iacksonville Fl.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      @@Ivyoffroadadventurefamily oh, sorry, I read through that too fast. NARTPRO is hasn’t released the kit yet. He said he wants to take another look at it. Maybe make it easier to use? Make it automated? I don’t know, but I’ve been using it and have a good result.

    • @Ivyoffroadadventurefamily
      @Ivyoffroadadventurefamily 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring Ok hopefully he'll release it soon. I was considering driving over there. Seems like we dont have anyone over here on this side of the country. But thanks for replying.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +1

      @@Ivyoffroadadventurefamily you can message him on Instagram (great way to communicate with people and companies). instagram.com/k20nartpro?igshid=YzA2ZDJiZGQ=

  • @cbagz8597
    @cbagz8597 7 місяців тому

    I have a 2011 Chevy Colorado 4x4 with an open diff. Can I run this or will it not work ? I off-road quite a bit

  • @javierbahamonderebolledo1978
    @javierbahamonderebolledo1978 2 місяці тому

    Buena camioneta queda bien con esa altura. Que lastima que de serie sea tan baja

  • @07Review
    @07Review Рік тому

    Wow... what is the price of that awesome mod?

  • @leebuck180
    @leebuck180 2 роки тому

    The grill on this Ridgeline, what vehicle is it from or is it aftermarket? looks like it has better air flow than the oem grill.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      He has a 2020 Ridgeline and I think it’s stock, he just has the chrome pieces vinyl wrapped

  • @biggsly5000
    @biggsly5000 2 роки тому +2

    If Honda or jeep were smart they’d put the same same system the have in the back in the fron too and just charge for it, people would pay.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому +2

      That’s what I imagined it would take for the new 2024 Trailsport to be a step more capable. The Jeep Grand Cherokee WK1 had a front and rear E-LSD (well, also a solid rear axle). I wonder why they got rid of the E-LSD in the front. Jeep unibody 4WD is still more capable with a low gear T-case. Front and rear twin clutch LSD would be BADASS! Here’s to hoping 🤞.

  • @Ro0m309
    @Ro0m309 2 роки тому +1

    can you lock them at the same time?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      Yes. A 25% lock with both front wheels could be good for certain situations

  • @RA-gk5zg
    @RA-gk5zg 2 роки тому +1

    Is this only for Hondas? How about a 4wd f-150?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      No, it could be implemented on any platform, we just don’t know how effective it would be.

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 2 роки тому

      Why not just get a LSD for the front ? One of the benefits of owning Americans best selling vehicle is that so many people make parts for it

  • @wilfriedgronau5052
    @wilfriedgronau5052 2 роки тому

    major question insurance ??????? accident ??????? warranty ??????????

  • @Inferno45
    @Inferno45 10 місяців тому +1

    PUT A LIFT KIT ON IT and see what it can really do.

  • @pnw_element9822
    @pnw_element9822 2 роки тому +1

    Wow very interested can I do this to my Honda Element if so big wow website new age performance?jon can you ask them will they work on my 06 awd element I’m very interested…damn jon your doing it brah

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      I can ask. Do you have the automatic or manual transmission?

    • @pnw_element9822
      @pnw_element9822 2 роки тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring 5 speed brah but man my element ain’t got no crawl but like 10 or less haha if not no worries it’s all good it’s just built for camping and fishing etc

  • @pawg206
    @pawg206 3 місяці тому

    Anyone know what wheels are those?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  3 місяці тому

      On the white Ridgeline? Toyo open country AT3, I got rid of my wildpeaks and run the Toyos now too

  • @philipparana9225
    @philipparana9225 Рік тому

    Wouldn't a locking diff be a better way of doing this

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  Рік тому

      I’ve never heard of an AWD with a locking front differential

  • @AphexTwinII
    @AphexTwinII Рік тому

    SO INCREDIBLE! s/ Such a pointless add on to a ridgeline.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  Рік тому

      What do you have against driving up 2-3 foot ruts on a 65% grade? How is that pointless?

    • @AphexTwinII
      @AphexTwinII Рік тому

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring what's the point of driving up a rut you can't get over anyway? Buy a Jeep!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  Рік тому

      @@AphexTwinII what’s the point of driving a Jeep that’s not going to last? Using your thought process, just buy a Honda or Toyota. Everyone has different needs, so I totally get why people are willing to buy Jeeps and fix them when the break. A Jeep doesn’t meet my daily driving requirements, just as a Honda won’t meet another person’s off-road requirements. Why do people spend $30K in Jeep suspension upgrades? Is that pointless to you too?

  • @taraaaron1242
    @taraaaron1242 2 роки тому

    Just need to work on the flex so you don't bend your Fram, especially if your loaded. Having it up on 3 wheels isn't good

  • @wilfriedgronau5052
    @wilfriedgronau5052 2 роки тому

    why don't you guys by a 4 runner if you really want to go off road

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      Umm, wouldn’t we buy a Jeep if we really wanted to go off-road?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  2 роки тому

      Why in the world would we buy a front IFS body on frame for off-road? Do you even know what that means? Haha

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah, it's just too bad the Ridgeline isn't a real truck. I mean, you know, one that can offroad.... (Alert, sarcasm meter activated...)

  • @JustaShrimp372
    @JustaShrimp372 Рік тому

    Would this work with a 2nd gen pilot?