Fundamentals of Energy Recovery Ventilators (ERVs)

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  • @baronlowe9579
    @baronlowe9579 4 роки тому +24

    The best explanation I’ve seen of this technology!

  • @ramakrishnang55
    @ramakrishnang55 2 роки тому +4

    This was an excellent presentation with a live demonstration. Cleared all my doubts.

  • @wazzouz
    @wazzouz 4 роки тому +6

    Great demonstration. Surprising how well the heat transfers. Thank you!

  • @dgb5820
    @dgb5820 3 роки тому +6

    This man offers high level presentation great video production

  • @junpark4007
    @junpark4007 3 місяці тому +1

    Really appreciate that HRV model in the end with clear explanation!

  • @cornpop7805
    @cornpop7805 4 роки тому +4

    I've been trying to fully understand HRVs ERVs for months and although I got to where I understood what they did, I had no idea of how they did it. Of the dozens of videos I've watched, your video is the ONLY one I've found that gave me the information I wanted. Excellent job!!

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому

      Thank you. If you want to dive deeper, we did a 1.5 hour webinar on this same topic today. You can watch it at attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/3857937118863671564

    • @cornpop7805
      @cornpop7805 4 роки тому

      @@TECTubefilms
      Awesome! I'll definitely check it out, but it will be 2 or 3 days from now. Unless I flake out on my responsibilities, then it will be sooner, so it'll probably be sooner...

    • @hmgrffn19
      @hmgrffn19 4 роки тому +1

      Best explanation I've seen of what an ERV is and does.

  • @MichaelFlatman
    @MichaelFlatman Рік тому +5

    Great demo, i'd love to see a video with smoke passing through the box to show the air paths.

  • @jamesdean3325
    @jamesdean3325 6 років тому +5

    Ryan, Excellent explanation of ERVs and HRVs

  • @Indian-Canadian
    @Indian-Canadian Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the video. I never came across ERVs in my 8 year long career as a facilities maintenance manager. I came across this technology when I moved to a cold country last year and really wanted to know how they worked.

  • @robertgolden3326
    @robertgolden3326 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this video, excellent demonstration and explanation of the ERV, answered a lot of questions!

  • @rkafulani
    @rkafulani 11 місяців тому +2

    Well done video. Clear explanations that a lay person can understand❤

  • @sheetmetalwork
    @sheetmetalwork Рік тому +2

    Thanks for explaining this topic and the demo, much appreciated.

  • @glennmccarter6212
    @glennmccarter6212 3 роки тому +3

    This video as really good at explaining ERVs. My HVACR class stumbled across you video of the psychrometric chart and it was very informative. I have copied this link and shared it with my instructor because I feel like our class will benefit from this training as well. Thank you for your videos and I look forward to viewing more of your content as needed.

  • @ruirocha2279
    @ruirocha2279 3 роки тому +1

    The best video I've seen to explain ERV. Congrats

  • @jeylful
    @jeylful 4 роки тому +2

    Great video and explanation... thank you! I am impressed with the efficiency of the wheel!

  • @veizour
    @veizour 6 років тому +7

    Well presented. Understood and now interested! Thanks!!!

  • @antonkorolev8059
    @antonkorolev8059 10 місяців тому +2

    This is amazing! Thank you so much for the explanation! I think it’s the best video on UA-cam regarding the topic

  • @umihani4336
    @umihani4336 2 роки тому +2

    Im from Malaysia and this video help me understanding the system with full of information. Thank you from 2022

  • @Billcasiopost
    @Billcasiopost 11 місяців тому +2

    Really enjoyed the presentation style, thanks 👍👍

  • @olegyakovlev7319
    @olegyakovlev7319 5 років тому +4

    Thanks! Great explanation. I was able to peak some design tips for my DIY ERV.

  • @AmiranBokhua
    @AmiranBokhua 3 роки тому +3

    Good job explaining main principle and types

  • @adammidcal2425
    @adammidcal2425 6 років тому +1

    I always assumed HRVs are a waste of money. But I live in Monterey Ca where the climate is mild and perfect. But this video explained it great. I can now see them being beneficial in extreme temps with extreme humidity where fresh air is important.

  • @blrmaurice
    @blrmaurice 4 місяці тому +1

    This is the best demonstration I have seen to explain the ERV function. I was surprised at how well the ERV was able to transfer temperature in the demo. I wonder if you could generate some steam at the outside air input and also see how well the humidity would be transferred using RH gauges in each chamber as well as thermometers. Also, it would be interesting to compare the efficiency difference from the rotating membrane compared to the usual home module.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 місяці тому

      There is plenty of data to illustrate the efficiency different between an enthalpy wheel and fixed plates.
      Put wheels are only for commercial projects. No one makes a wheel small enough for residential.

  • @mansoorimtiyaz5081
    @mansoorimtiyaz5081 3 роки тому +4

    One of the best explanation👍

  • @jasoncy31
    @jasoncy31 2 роки тому +2

    Okay, that's magic. Crazy! Thanks for posting this.

  • @oscargrouchthegreeng
    @oscargrouchthegreeng Рік тому +2

    That was VERY helpful to my understanding. Thank you!

  • @zaalimable
    @zaalimable 4 роки тому +2

    Great video and wonderfully clear explanations. Thanks for doing this.

  • @Shutyourjibbs
    @Shutyourjibbs 4 роки тому +3

    Great video! Thanks for making it easy to understand!

  • @hudaniel3213
    @hudaniel3213 Рік тому +2

    very good. finally someone explained it well.

  • @andyoohhh2061
    @andyoohhh2061 4 роки тому +1

    Great explanation of how these work.

  • @eznAnze
    @eznAnze 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! Explained very well, both theory and example! Thanks!

  • @maksim3722
    @maksim3722 4 роки тому +1

    Very good explained even for those with English as a second language! Thank you and greetings from Germany!

  • @qasimkazmi786
    @qasimkazmi786 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent explanation..congratulation brother

  • @tomekc1113
    @tomekc1113 3 роки тому +3

    lots of info, well presented, thanks!

  • @ShaiLysk
    @ShaiLysk 2 роки тому +1

    Best explanation on UA-cam ❤❤❤

  • @everydreamai
    @everydreamai 3 роки тому +2

    Blown away by how effective it works in that final demo. I'd expect to split the difference 50/50 on temperature at best, but it seems you're closer to 90% thermal energy rejection which is nuts.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому +1

      For commercial systems, the minimum per most energy codes is 50% total recovery (sensible + latent). Most wheels are 65 to 75%, but some can be higher.

    • @Pendrige
      @Pendrige 3 роки тому

      @@TECTubefilms Is there a difference between the efficiency of a wheel vs box style heat exchanger? Great video and demo btw 👍

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, per give area of space, a wheel generally trumps all other ERV types. For example, one of the manufacturers we use can run 30,000 CFM thru a wheel in a certain size cabinet. However, when they use that same exact cabinet chassis for a fixed plate ERV, they can only do a our 12,000 thru it.

  • @iabhishekaggarwal
    @iabhishekaggarwal 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks a lot for this Awesome Video. Got a really Nice Idea of how these systems work.

  • @jydog57
    @jydog57 3 роки тому +1

    Very impressive vid. Keep up the quality. Will now have to research ERV's.

  • @jpsum
    @jpsum 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! ASHRAE recommends as much as outside air as possible for COVID. This is great technology to have to allow taking mostly outside air even when it’s hot or cold outside without impacting energy usage or performance.

  • @ParkerJonesmtb
    @ParkerJonesmtb 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video guys; this will help with my power engineering exams :)

  • @MrYosis
    @MrYosis Рік тому +3

    Thank you for your explanation, so the silca gel. Is it replaceable?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  11 місяців тому +2

      No, it does not need to be replaced. It is impregnated into the polymer. It doesn't wear off or anything like that.

  • @digvijaysinghchauhan9101
    @digvijaysinghchauhan9101 6 років тому +3

    You explained it so good. Keet it up...

  • @coasterkat4432
    @coasterkat4432 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much! You explained everything so well!

  • @alextavuchis2655
    @alextavuchis2655 3 роки тому

    What a great presentation, well done.

  • @aaronlavergne3274
    @aaronlavergne3274 3 роки тому +1

    This was such a great video to understand ERV technology. The demo unit with the thermometers makes it that much better. Thanks so much!

  • @BAGINAZARD
    @BAGINAZARD 5 років тому +2

    glad someone explained this.

  • @IvoPavlik
    @IvoPavlik 4 місяці тому +1

    Very nice presentation. Thank you!

  • @kjrey9878
    @kjrey9878 2 роки тому +2

    Look, I just stumbled across this video. I'm a network engineer and understood 0% of how A/C, ventilation, HVAC, etc worked. But this guy did a GREAT job explaining this! (*me yelling across the house* "Hey honey, you want me to explain to you how an ERV keeps a building cool?!") That's right, I'm that kind of nerd who MUST share facts about things i'm excited to learn. 😋🤣

    • @pwerlvlin
      @pwerlvlin 2 роки тому +1

      Yea this guys explination is top notch! I couldnt make heads or tails of why this type of system is used or its purpose... Now I want 1! lmao Oh and dont worry the nerds will inherit the earth! :P

  • @Henryp001
    @Henryp001 10 місяців тому +2

    awesome video for explain two differences

  • @danielivko6819
    @danielivko6819 Рік тому +13

    dang didn't realize Richard Jefferson had a background in hvac

  • @slipperyslope3912
    @slipperyslope3912 Рік тому +5

    This is an absolutely excellent video explanation. Close-ups, hands on, shows what's happening.
    He mentioned an exhaust duct "from FURNACE to HRV, then vented outside" at 5:55. Is this true, or was this duct pulling exhaust from bathroom? I'm trying to understand how to tie into existing HVAC ducting.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +2

      Yes, in this particular ducting scenario (and there is more than one way to duct it), the HRV pulls air from the furnace return and exhausts it outside. It then pulls air from the outside and replaces it in that return duct. This is the easiest way to duct it, but it also doesn't save any energy. The best way... as you hinted at... would be to pull air from the bathroom instead of using a bath fan and run that thru the HRV instead of pulling return air. This is air you planned to throw away anyway so may as well reclaim energy from it.

    • @slipperyslope3912
      @slipperyslope3912 Рік тому

      @@TECTubefilms Ok interesting. Thank you. I'm less worried about energy, more worried about excessive redundant systems, ducting, and wall penetrations (bath fans, HRV, kitchen fans, makeup air, furnace, dryer ducts, etc).
      Do they make enthalpy core boxes (without the HRV blowers) that can duct straight to the air handler using its central fan? To consolidate some of these duplications? Which vents can be combined?
      I don't understand why we ditch the high CFM flow rates and high MERV filtration of an air handler for these tasks, and instead use these dinky little 100cfm central exchangers. In full redundancy no less.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +1

      @@slipperyslope3912 Pretty much the ONLY reason to install a HRV is to save energy. If you don't need/want the energy savings and just want fresh air, then there are several methods to duct outside air into the HVAC system without the expense of a HRV.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому

      @@slipperyslope3912 No, we have never seen a residential size HRV without a fan. Just ducting it into the air handler would not work. The pressure drop of the HRV heat exchanger and filters is so high, that the air handler will just draw all of its air from the return duct and none from the HRV duct.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +2

      @@slipperyslope3912 You do not lose the MERV filtration with a HRV ducted into an air handler. The outside air coming thru the HRV is ducted into the return of the air handler upstream of the air handler's filter.

  • @zakariavahidi8961
    @zakariavahidi8961 10 місяців тому +3

    perfect explanation.

  • @1221Genocide
    @1221Genocide 4 роки тому +2

    You described a dedicated HRV system for residential use. Typically these will be ducted to all the bathrooms as well as the kitchen (with a grease filter in place). Never a hallway like you said
    That being said, most residential HRVs will not be installed like this.
    You will just have your supply and return for your HRV tied into the return duct (3' apart) and an intake and exhaust going outside (6' apart)

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +3

      We agree to pull air from the bathrooms as the first choice. If you need to pull more exhaust air (to balance with your required ventilation intake air) we would prefer to pull it from the kitchen (but not the hood) or from a general area like a hallway. We do not recommend pulling air from the kitchen hood since grease filters do not capture all of the grease, nor do homeowners change/clean them regularly.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +3

      We are not fans of pulling the air out of the furnace return duct to send thru the ERV and then outside. This is an energy waster. To make it an energy conservation device, you must recovery the energy from a waste stream... air that was leaving the house anyway even if you did not own an ERV.

  • @rinkly
    @rinkly 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic explanation! Thank you very much!!

  • @MichaelFlatman
    @MichaelFlatman Рік тому

    In the UK we have humid winters, where ventilation is key to keeping the inside of homes warm and dry. Many people are talking about positive input ventilation (opposite of extractor fan just pumping fresh air into a central place to be blown through gaps of the building).. This increases heating cost as many units have a 500w duct heater to warm up the incoming air stream (~10c to -2c typically) and even then people complain of cold drafts from the unit.. I wonder if an HRV would help benefit.
    Use the damp but warm exhaust from bathroom to preheat the incoming air somewhat..

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +2

      Yes, you can run the bathroom exhaust through an HRV to reclaim the heat and transfer it to the incoming ventilation air to pre-heat that air less expensively.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +2

      Do not use an ERV in your application since that will also reclaim the moisture from the bathroom exhaust which it sounds like you do not want.

  • @TheCablebill
    @TheCablebill 4 роки тому +2

    This - coupled with gentle ceiling to floor airflow - would seem to be the future of viral transmission suppression in public spaces.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +2

      An ERV is a way to save the energy cost of ventilation air. It doesn't clean or purifier the air. It provides the same dilution affect that other ventilation system would also provide... it just does it with less heating/cooling energy.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +1

      If you are interested in viral transmission reduction in commercial buildings, check out our webinar on IAQ. register.gotowebinar.com/register/5473581496208425740

    • @TheCablebill
      @TheCablebill 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@TECTubefilms I fully understand the function. My comment stands. I did not suggest that it cleans or purifies the air. Indeed, there is no way an HVAC system can filter viruses out of air transmitted directly from person to person in close proximity, even if filters could be so fine. My point is that in enclosed spaces with multiple occupants, the direction of airflow, its replacement frequency and dilution with fresh air are critical factors in reducing the concentration of pathogens in each breath of air we inhale. I was suggesting that individual occupants should have maximum supply of outside air to breathe - as opposed to air exhaled from others' lungs. This would seem to be accomplished by arranging airflow from floor to ceiling with fresh air constantly supplied with minimal turbulence. Energy recovery is required to make such a design economically practical beyond capital cost considerations.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +3

      @@TheCablebill Agreed. We have to tell people about 5 times per week that ERVs don't clean air, so I guess we just assumed that is what you meant. LOL

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +1

      @@TheCablebill BTW - we do have a filtration system that filters viruses out of the air in an occupied space. We have been using these in hospitals for about 8 years. If you are interested in learning more, check out attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/2854708624619222797

  • @audreyrappaport6320
    @audreyrappaport6320 Рік тому +3

    I'm surprised the wheel spins that fast. I thought that each section of the wheel would need much more time to absorb the heat and change temperature before being able to transfer the heat to the other side. What material is the wheel and how is it able to transfer heat while spinning so fast?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому

      We would consider this to be pretty slow. ERV wheels rotate at 10 to 60 RPM (similar to an old school record player), whereas a fan is rotating at 1,800 to 3,600 RPM.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому

      This particular wheel is made of a polymer impregnated with a silica gel desiccant for moisture transfer.

  • @redsquirrelftw
    @redsquirrelftw Рік тому +2

    I'm thinking of building an small HRV, is there an advantage to the wheel type vs fixed fins? Leaning towards fixed fins and doing multiple cross flow cores or a single counter flow as it would be easier to build, but the wheel ones are also kinda intriguing.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +1

      The advantage of a wheel is that it has significantly higher heat transfer ability for a given size of cabinet. The disadvantage of a wheel is if you need AHRI certification for zero crossover (aka EATR).

  • @markepstein8460
    @markepstein8460 3 роки тому

    Excellent video! Studying for an architecture registration exam, this is a really great illustration of something we usually only see in diagram form. Thank you for the thorough explanation!

  • @lukeknox8548
    @lukeknox8548 3 роки тому

    struggling to grasp until very end. very helpful

  • @healingbrain
    @healingbrain 3 роки тому +3

    useful in the age of COVID when we want more fresh outside air coming in, and human exhalation going out of the building, without too much loss of heat or cooling

  • @salim5192
    @salim5192 10 місяців тому +3

    In summer, hot moisture air is sucked from outside, and this hot energy is transferred to heat exchanger, there by the hot air losing it's energy to heat exchanger and converts to cold air which is then pushed inside the building space...and vice versa in winter...is it right?..pls confirm.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  10 місяців тому +1

      yes basically

    • @salim5192
      @salim5192 10 місяців тому

      @@TECTubefilms Thank You for confirming

  • @khandavillianirudh8741
    @khandavillianirudh8741 4 роки тому +1

    Now I'm clear on how Erv works. Previously I got a lot of confusion on erv's

  • @explaincauseidontgetit3294
    @explaincauseidontgetit3294 4 роки тому +1

    Very good demonstration. How are the heat molecules separated by that spinning wheel?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +2

      No molecules of the air are separated. The air molecules pass straight through the wheel. In regards to the heat... heat always moves from hot thing to cold thing, so if the air is warmer than the wheel, then the air heats the wheel. Then the wheel spins to the other airstream where the wheel is not the warm thing so it transfers its heat to that cooler airstream.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +1

      Just noticed your name. LOL

  • @asifalikalody1722
    @asifalikalody1722 4 роки тому +1

    Great explanations.Thank you sir👍

  • @bleia5998
    @bleia5998 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the good explanation...it is nice to understand the wheel can absorb humidity and not transfer it to the other side. So just sensible heat no latent heat.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому

      The is incorrect. An ERV uses an enthalpy wheel and it does transfer latent energy from the airstream with the higher humidity to that with the lower humidity. This is desirable in most outdoor air applications. In the summer, it takes the higher outdoor humidity and transfers it to the exhaust air so it does not come into the building. In the winter, it takes the indoor humidity of the return air and transfers it to the supply air so it is preserved inside the building.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому

      What you are describing is a HRV... heat recovery ventilator. A HRV is sensible only version of a ERV. Most ERVs are sensible plus latent.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому

      HRVs (sensible only devices) are generally only used in commercial buildings when the indoor humidity in summer is regularly higher than outdoors, such as a swimming pool or locker room. Residential HRVs are used mostly in ASHRAE climate zones 7 & 8 (most of Canada) because frost control options are too expensive/complex for residential systems.

    • @bleia5998
      @bleia5998 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the explanation. Know I understand the difference between the two. It depends on climate zone and space function.

  • @minh4835
    @minh4835 5 років тому +1

    great demo and info!

  • @dosadoodle
    @dosadoodle 2 роки тому +3

    In a residential ERV with the set of separator "fins" (at 6:15), my main point of confusion is why, after passing through the box, the temperature of the air entering the building isn't the same as the air going out of the building (the average temperature). I'd think the fins would take the average temperature of the air passing into the unit, and so exhaust air would be moderated and not so efficiently exchanged as it seems to be.
    If we looked at a single fin (as a square), would we see a large heat difference across the surface of that fin? Is that how we're able to recover such a large amount of heat via the device?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому +3

      The incoming air is not heated/cooled to the same temp as the outgoing air because the heat exchange process is imperfect. Depending on the model and type of heat exchanger, it can usually recover 55 to 85% of the available energy, but not all of it.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому

      Not sure what is being asked in your second question

    • @dosadoodle
      @dosadoodle 2 роки тому +1

      @@TECTubefilms Basically, the device is more efficient than I expected was possible from such a simple device. If the temperature was 20F outside and 70F inside, my prior guess was that the device would yield fresh air to the inside closer to the average of the two temperatures at 45F (with exhaust air at a similar temperature). Given that the heat recovery is in reality far more efficient than this, my assumption/guess is that the temperature is very different along different parts on each "fin" on the heat exchanger. (I'm not sure I can properly explain what I'm saying in a comment, as I'm discussing a 3D object in text only.)

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому +3

      @@dosadoodle If the temperature was only average of the two air streams, that would mean that it is a 50% effective heat transfer device. As mentioned, most are 55 to 85%. For commercial buildings, the minimum allowed per energy code (IECC) is 50% effective. There is no minimum for residential. The reason any heat exchange coil can be better than 50% is due to counterflow arrangement. If you want to dive deep into the technology on how ERV heat transfer works, you may want to check out one of our recorded webinars such as attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6256885680768066575

    • @dosadoodle
      @dosadoodle 2 роки тому +2

      @@TECTubefilms Thanks for the additional explanations and link to that presentation! It was interesting and helpful to listen to.

  • @iabhishekaggarwal
    @iabhishekaggarwal 3 роки тому +1

    There is a query I'll be grateful to get looked upon by experts like you. I was concerned that the temperature difference of the Air Streams going in and out (in case of an HRV) that could condense the water content in the humid air. Won't this happen and the condensed water will drip from the duct pipes?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому +1

      Condensation can occur if one airstream's temp is below the dewpoint of the other airstream. Many HRVs have a condensation pan and drain line for this reason.
      The ductwork between the HRV and the furnace should not condense, though. In order for that to happen, the duct temp would need to get below the dewpoint of the air in the room that contains the ducts. That will be difficult to do without refrigeration. Sometimes, however, this will occur on the ductwork between the HRV and the outdoors. Although that will happen on ductwork to the outdoors even if you do not have an HRV. The two ducts going to the outside should be insulated ducts like we showed on the HRV in the second half of this video.

    • @iabhishekaggarwal
      @iabhishekaggarwal 3 роки тому +1

      @@TECTubefilms Thank you so much for the reply..

    • @UPsideDOWNworld321
      @UPsideDOWNworld321 3 роки тому

      @@TECTubefilms where do I buy one of theses I am sick of my house being 94 degrees swamp cooler sucks

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      @@UPsideDOWNworld321 Are you saying you have a swamp cooler instead of an air conditioner (FYI - swamp cooler is slang for a type of cooling system used in desert climates). An ERV isn't going to help in that case. And ERV recovers heat/cool energy from your exhaust air and transfers it to your incoming ventilation air. Nothing more.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      @@UPsideDOWNworld321 ERVs are available through just about any HVAC contractor

  • @albelanger6126
    @albelanger6126 4 роки тому +1

    Great/fantastic/excellent video, love the plexiglass. I am looking for a similar system, but where the air exchanger could be bypass in spring & fall (hot days & cool night & since air is so cool at night, there would be no need to have the AC on). Am I missing something here? I can’t seem to find a system that does that.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, most commercial ERVs have a bypass around the heat exchanger for "economizer days," since this is required now by IECC and most other energy codes.

  • @hejarkhalid2570
    @hejarkhalid2570 6 років тому +2

    I heard about HRV just today, wow, why isn't this thing ubiquitous by now?! I also wonder the amount of energy needed to operate it.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  6 років тому +1

      Well... a HRV is not right for every application. It only saves energy if you already have a stream of exhaust air to recover from. And it only "pays back" if you have a lot of required outside air and the building is in an area with high utility costs. Where we are in northern Illinois, it starts making a lot of financial sense when the HVAC system requires more 1,000 CFM of outside air intake. If your building is in a state with more expensive energy costs, smaller HRVs can make sense too.

    • @georgethomas7547
      @georgethomas7547 6 років тому

      More over need maintenance mainly cleaning filters

  • @AllenBeatty-i6v
    @AllenBeatty-i6v Рік тому

    I have 4 ERU's in one of the buildings I take care of. I started servicing these about 4 yrs ago so by the time I got to them they were about 16 years old. What I learned is that the manufacturer recommends changing the desiccant wheel every 5yrs, but in that time the unit becomes out of production. I imagine they are nice when new but my experience leans to simple economizers controlled by the energy management system. With that said mine are being replaced next year. I am hoping with a clean slate I will have a better IAQ for the people in the building.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +1

      Which manufacturer is recommending that you change the wheel every 5 years? The wheel in this video is from Airxchange and they do not recommend ever replacing the wheel unless you damage it physically or something like that. The wheel will outlast the cooling coil and heating system in that same cabinet... and it will outlast the cabinet itself. Many wheels, much like compressors, have a 5 year warranty but are expected to last much longer. Is that where you are getting the 5 year number from?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому

      Economizers serve a different, but related, purpose in the system. Per energy code (IECC), economizers are required to be used in conjunction with the ERV. And more specifically, the ERV needs to shutoff and the economizer used when the system calls for cooling on an "economizer day."

  • @hvacgabe5889
    @hvacgabe5889 7 років тому +1

    Good video and information. So can you have residential type hrv in an office setting?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  6 років тому +1

      You "could" but a residential size HRV in an office building, but it would not be large enough. The HRV should be sized based on the exhaust and outside CFM flows that the building was designed for. Residential ERVs are generally under 300 CFM, which would be very small for a regular office building. Unless you are talking about a small business office with just 10 people.

    • @hvacgabe5889
      @hvacgabe5889 6 років тому +1

      Tec Tube thanks

  • @MtnXfreeride
    @MtnXfreeride 8 місяців тому

    Hard to believe it can transfer the heat that quickly. I want one it would be rough to get it installed.

  • @MrVinurox
    @MrVinurox 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative. Thank you

  • @kathys1236
    @kathys1236 3 роки тому

    What should the house exterior intake cover look like? We have a 8"x 8" bug screen with louvred flaps, but someone pointed out that it should be a boot cover, so that the outside air coming in is not impeded by the closed louvre flaps. Does it matter? Thank you, great video!

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      If the flaps are closed when the ERV is running then yes it matters.

  • @billkenneke8249
    @billkenneke8249 5 років тому +1

    Very good video, thanks. Does air flow through the wheel style heat exchanger (enthalpy wheel?) or across it? Are they available to diy'ers anywhere?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  5 років тому +1

      The air flows through it

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  5 років тому

      Not sure how to answer your question about installing one yourself. You would need knowledge of HVAC design/sizing, sheetmetal working, and electrical wiring, and in some states/municipalities licenses to do work in those trades. Plus the smallest enthalpy wheels on the market are too large for homes. Residential applications would us the enthalpy core style.

  • @ogweasel4273
    @ogweasel4273 4 роки тому +2

    Very good video!!! Thanks!!

  • @MindLaboratory
    @MindLaboratory 2 роки тому +2

    6:47 - if you want to learn the difference between HRV and ERV and how that works

  • @tomh921
    @tomh921 3 роки тому +2

    Very informative!

  • @daowara85
    @daowara85 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your explanation.😊

  • @FloresEsteban1979
    @FloresEsteban1979 3 роки тому +1

    We have a huge one in our building's air handling unit. We are seeing only about 8-10 degree drop from supply air temp before it hits our chilled water coil. In our area, our summers can be quite hot (100+) and seeing your demonstration, I am wondering if our wheel is not doing what it's supposed to! hmmm

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      Lots of possible issues: wheel could be dirty, you may not have enough exhaust CFM relative to supply CFM, your exhaust air may be too warm, wheel could be moving the wrong speed

    • @FloresEsteban1979
      @FloresEsteban1979 3 роки тому

      @@TECTubefilms Ok. I have noticed that our exhaust CFM, when raised, the evap cooler does lower the supply, however, it creates negative pressure in our building. I will have to check the wheel's RPM as it was recently installed after our original wheel feel apart. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      @@FloresEsteban1979 Wow! Your wheel fell apart? We have never heard of anything like that. Who was the original wheel manufacturer? Did you replace it with a different brand of wheel?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      @@FloresEsteban1979 What is the exhaust air CFM and the outside air supply CFM? Are there other sources of exhaust in the building? If you want the space balanced instead of negative... and most buildings do... you need to move all of the building's exhaust air through the ERV and not use other exhaust fans.

    • @FloresEsteban1979
      @FloresEsteban1979 3 роки тому

      @@TECTubefilms Yes, it was designed to have some positive pressure. The normal CFM during a regular business day is around 800-900 Exhaust and 7000 Supply at the air handler.

  • @TFSGEO
    @TFSGEO 4 роки тому +1

    Is there a measurement of how much energy is "lost" in this process? I realize that something can be derived based on that demo with the thermometers I am just curious if there have been papers/studies published on these.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +2

      Yes, but what do you mean by "lost?" Are you trying to figure out how much fan energy is being used to move this air? If that is the case, most selection software tools will tell you this kWh. Or are you trying to figure out how much heat is not being transferred that could be? If this is the case, then that is represented in the AHRI rated "effectiveness" percentage. Or are your trying to figure out how much leakage goes around the wheel on accident? This is represented by AHRI's measurements of OACF and EATR.

  • @allenbankstusc
    @allenbankstusc 2 роки тому

    I love the ERV demo unit, makes it simple to see during the summer months how the temp exchange works. I wonder if you have made a video with this reversed, showing the intake/exhaust during winter month where cold air is being introduced to the inside? I recently built an air tight house and do not have any type of ventilation system installed, hence it's drawing from the windows and doors creating a vapor in the cracks. I also have humidity levels that are running between 60-70% showing on my thermostat, btw I live in Alabama. I'm thinking I need an ERV to help bring in fresh air to balance things. Will this also help to lower my humidity level?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому +2

      No, we did not make a winter video. However, it would do the same thing as the demo in this video. Just move the labels around. Instead of the warm air being labelled as "outside air," it would be "return air."

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому +2

      An ERV will only help with indoor humidity issues if the humidity is being caused by outside air coming in. When the ERV brings in the outside air in the summer, it transfers the heat and the moisture to the exiting exhaust air so it does not come back in.
      However, if the source of your high humidity is something inside the house, then an ERV will make the problem worse since it will transfer the humidity from the return air back into the supply air.
      So the first question with any humidity issue is "what is the source of the moisture?"

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 роки тому +2

      There are lots of things you can do to deal with high indoor humidity. This would be an abbreviated list from best to worst (the list changes though based on WHY you have high humidity).
      1) eliminate moisture sources (put caps on sump and ejector pits, run bath fan when showering, etc)
      2) Right-size the A/C. 99% of all system are oversized and more than half are grossly oversized. The smaller the A/C capacity, the longer the run cycle, and hence the better the dehumidification
      3) Multi-stage A/C. This also keeps the system running and the evaporator dehumidifying
      4) Lower blower speed for regular A/C mode
      5) On demand dehumidification using the A/C and lowering the blower speed even lower than regular A/C mode
      6) On demand dehumidification using the A/C but not lowering blower speed further because the system is too basic to do that
      7) Slightly larger evaporator coil with more surface area
      8) dehumidifier
      You should note that some of the decisions above affect other stuff so should not be modified without research. For example, you may lower blower speed to dehumidify better but then realize you have a crappy duct system and can no longer get enough air to certain rooms.

  • @RaldrinSantos
    @RaldrinSantos 5 років тому

    Great video! What happens if its warm inside the house and you want to have the cold air outside to cool your house. That is the scenario in tropical countries where at night time it is usually colder outside than inside. Can I still pump in fresh air at the same time make inside the house cooler?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  5 років тому +1

      That scenario occurs frequently in commercial buildings so the units include an automated bypass which allows air to run thru the ERV fans and duct without going thru the actual heat exchanger. This is in place of the economizer that most standard commercial HVAC air handlers have. Small residential ERVs do not typically have a bypass, just like residential HVAC systems do not have economizers systems. The first cost is too high in residential for the energy cost benefit.

    • @brothajay9626
      @brothajay9626 5 років тому

      a mixing box would be perfect for residential applications. It brings in cooler dryer air from the outside and lowers the energy load on your cooling system .

  • @paullambert1485
    @paullambert1485 2 роки тому

    I have a question for you I just started working at a three story hotel I happen to go in the attic and found an ERV not running and hasn't been in awhile we have ducted energy on the first floor and Ptac units in all the rooms would it be wise to get the ERV running again to save energy cost or not ?

  • @MadComputerScientist
    @MadComputerScientist 3 роки тому +3

    Absolute thermodynamic witchcraft.

  • @hctibeyb1788
    @hctibeyb1788 5 днів тому

    Question: when the hvac system is not running should the ERV be off? there would be not benefit to have it on while the system is off?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  2 дні тому

      If the ERV is ducted into the main HVAC system, then they should be on/off together. Keep in mind that ventilation in a commercial building is required constantly, hence both the ERV and HVAC need to be on, during the buildings occupied hours.

    • @hctibeyb1788
      @hctibeyb1788 День тому

      @TECTubefilms thanks for the reply that's what I thought was the case for my ducted system for my residence. The builder told everyone in my neighborhood that it needs to be on 24/7 and taped the switch on. We are not in a high humidity zone (cen California).

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  14 хвилин тому

      @@hctibeyb1788 The climate won't affect the code requirement to run the system 24/7 or not. Modern residential, like commercial for a long time, requires continuous ventilation.

  • @ronrocheleau6303
    @ronrocheleau6303 Рік тому +2

    Thanks awesome video

  • @jaxoncanseeyou
    @jaxoncanseeyou Рік тому

    In a core-style residential unit like you showed, is it possible to turn an ERV into an HRV (or vice versa) simply by changing the core from one with a metal heat exchanger to a polymer heat exchanger (or vice versa)?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  Рік тому +1

      Yes, that is possible as long as your model has a drain. Lifebreath used to offer this option, but not sure if they still do.

  • @mherke
    @mherke 3 роки тому

    Hello, I have a barndominium home that has spray foam insulation. The SPF is not allowing any fresh air into the home and it off gasses some during the summertime. My goal is to bring in fresh air to help with the off gassing. Which of the 2 devices would help me better, an ERV or whole house ventilator with dehumidifier? Also, does the ERV only work when the HVAC system is running? Thank you for your time.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 роки тому

      The ERV will be less expensive to operate. The dehumidifier can remove moisture from both the indoor air and the incoming outside air. The ERV will only remove moisture from the incoming outside air.

  • @bensherwood9726
    @bensherwood9726 4 роки тому +1

    Im thinking put stale intake for ERV in bathroom and above range. Could the fans be done away with? How many CFM per square ft? I saw another video it had U.S. divided into HRV or ERV. I live in ERV area but about 40 miles to HRV suggested area. Would it be beneficial to get a HRV

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, you can run bathroom air thru an ERV. We would not recommend you run air from the range. It has grease that you do not want to get on the ERV's heat exchanger. So use exhaust air from bathrooms and maybe a general area of the kitchen or a hallway. In this case you would completely eliminate the bath fans and just have a grill in the bathroom ceilings that duct to the ERV. Then have the ERV supply fresh air to the bedrooms and living room or have it bring the fresh air to the return duct for the furnace or main air handler.

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  4 роки тому +1

      From homes an ERV is almost always better than a HRV because it recovers moisture, as well. This keep moisture out in the summer and keeps it in during the winter. The reason there are maps to show not using ERVs in northern climates is because the ERV can develop frost on it from that moisture. Larger commercial ERVs have controls and/or heaters to avoid that, but that is not cost effective for small residential ERVs. So as you get to colder climates, you need to use a HRV for homes. The border for HRV vs ERV is specific to each manufacturer and their heat exchanger technology. So you need to look at the map specific to the model of ERV you are considering.

  • @MOMENTOFTRUTH88
    @MOMENTOFTRUTH88 3 місяці тому +1

    @techtube
    What is the percentage that building exhaust air can go as carryover back to building?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  3 місяці тому

      It depends on the classification of the air in the exhaust and the specific local mechanical code. For example, if it is general exhaust and you are under IMC, then usually 10% can be recirculated from exhaust back into supply... or what AHRI calls Exhaust Air Transfer Ration (EATR). Other classes of air can be 5% or 0% in IMC.

  • @kmacdough
    @kmacdough 4 роки тому +1

    Where can you get a small ERV like that "demo" one at 6:49?

  • @labiadmohammed3484
    @labiadmohammed3484 Рік тому +1

    thanks for sharing the video

  • @GregAtlas
    @GregAtlas 7 місяців тому

    If I wanted a system to reduce building/room air humidity as much as possible for a specific production purpose but keep the heat in, which one would I want?

    • @TECTubefilms
      @TECTubefilms  7 місяців тому +2

      If the moisture is being introduced by outside air coming into the building via the ventilation system, then you would want an ERV. If the moisture is due to indoor sources (pool, people, fountains, etc) then you would want a HRV.

    • @GregAtlas
      @GregAtlas 7 місяців тому

      @@TECTubefilms Thank you. Sounds like I need an HRV.

  • @love_ur_nature
    @love_ur_nature 6 років тому +2

    Fantastic explanantion

  • @EXPLORINGPIPING
    @EXPLORINGPIPING 5 років тому +1

    Nice concept sir

  • @EngelUniverse
    @EngelUniverse 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @cdub961
    @cdub961 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks bro super helpful!