It’s amazing how I came across this channel and this was one question I wanted answered for a while. I have a gyro receiver AND a RWD drifter with a dedicated gyro (specifically, a Yokomo YG-302) and only recently I discovered EVERYTHING you’ve found in this video! Long story short, I’d bought that gyro receiver specifically for a drifter and yeah, spend the money and buy a good gyro! The sensitivity and control will benefit you greatly versus cheapening out and trying to use a gyro receiver. Thanks Troy and keep them coming,
Interesting I was running my Radiolink 4 on my Drifter when I first got it and I found it worked pretty good. Although turned up too high I did get the wobble as well. But I found a huge difference when I got my other one. I bought the Onisiki Gyro. :) Works good. Great video Troy. Thanks for sharing
My Sakura D5 build is my first drifter and the electronics were scabbed together. A DumboRC transmitter and receiver were on the shelf. Maybe someday I'll upgrade it all but I'm having a blast with the setup I've got right now.
A funny story, I have DumboRC in all twelve of my cars, and had all of them turned off because of the gyro being backward out of the factory! I did not know how to reverse it, and even got rid of a badass little custom build because it was so powerful that without a gyro the car was uncontrollable. I have since reversed the gyro and all of the cars including my new Rlarrlo 917 are working great!
Great Video Brother Troy 💯 I use the Radiolink in my Crawler's and Basher's but have the gyro turned off and use the adjustable channel for other purposes like Rear Steering ✌🤠👍 HFLPRCing 👍😎👍 AOAH 🌟 RCF4L 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy My Friend
I run a sky rc g401 gyro with my dumbo rc controller and works pretty well after some tinkering. The amount of fun I have with my budget setup, sub £300, makes me excited for when I can spend more on the hobby for higher grade parts!
@@RoadsideRC just bought an onsiki gyro and so ds racing changeable offset rims to eliminate the wheel rub lol n my d5. Hopefully going to the club next week to test it out
Great video! I run my custom and scratchbuilt rc crawlers and ratrods with the radiolink controller.... I have recently been thinking about building a RWD drifter, and was curious about this exact gyro question! Thanx! :)
@@RoadsideRC Hello sir I'm from Malaysia I want ask I'm use the radiolink but 4 not 6....I want know went I close the gyro build in the additional gyro for rc drift like I'm use the power hd is can use at the same time I'm close the built in....by the way nice drifting.....
@@RoadsideRC ok tq...but my gyro from hd gyro is reverse I'm little bit confused negative or positive for the gain....the adjustment gain gyro is at ch3 right....
The gyro should have a reverse switch, or you will need to rotate it 180* to get it to operate the other direction. The gyro gain can be controlled through the radio - but you have to set it up with whatever channel you want.
What I’ve found out with the built in gyros on the radiolinks, the positive & negative act like the sensitivity switch found on gyros. The beginner & advanced option. Can’t remember which is which, but the negative is one sensitivity & the positive I believe is the more sensitive option. Same as when you plug in the remote channel for servos for remote adjustability & one side of the zero seems a lot more twitchy than the other
Question, did you say that the radiolink would be able to pair with the GYD450 or would you rather just pair the GYD450 with atleast a Futaba 3pv? Thx for all the testing videos.🙏🏾
Yes and yes! :) After this video, I did use the Radiolink to drift while controlling the GYD450. It did work. However, I would still recommend getting at minimum the 3PV. The steering feel and overall smoothness of the control is just plain better. I felt that even though I was still going through the GYD450, the general control of the car was not as good.
me and my friends are building drag rcs. I know gyros are illegal but were just building it for fun, would you recommend a stand alone gyro or the receiver built in ones are good enough? I also got the flysky nb4 so Im out of luck of the receiver based ones
hey boss i have a question if that radio link does let you play with the futaba gyro that you use, very interested parting out a build and dont want to fork out the 200+ for a futaba radio.
The Radiolink can control a proper drift gyro...but you will eventually upgrade to a better radio. Many people try to use these, and always come back and upgrade later...spending $$$ twice.
Great vid! Would you recommend a gyro for a 4wd bashing/occasional 4wd drifting as well? Looks like fun! And how does the dumborc gyro compare to spektrums avc? Thanks, really appreciate your input =)
i bought a radiolink transmitter and receiver and im wondering if its possible to turn off the gyro on the receiver and just use the gyro that is already on my car? do i have to use the receiver gyro once i set it up?
Will Radiolink R4FGM work with DumboRC X6? I’ve made a 1/64 rc car and it worked pretty well but I wanted to mess with it a bit more for further upgrades only then its receiver stopped working. So Im deciding to replace the receiver with a different one and a much smaller one like the Radiolink R4FGM but I’m not sure if it will work.
Have you checked how much a replacement receiver would be? Looking on AMain, you can get the factory controller and receiver for under $50: bit.ly/3RyOfSN Perhaps ask around - many of us have replaced the factory radios, so folks may have a receiver laying around you could use. I would hate to see you "waste" the money on the Dumbo radio to just replace it again as soon as you can step up to a better radio.
Hi, I bought the Radiolink for Speedruns because of the incredible range. Do you think the buildin gyro could work to keep the car straight? Thats the oposite from drifting I know, but if that will working, that would be great Thanks for an answer and all the best!
I have the dumbo RC X6PM-350 TX paired with an X6DCG RX in my RWD converted TT-01 and as a beginner, I'm already having a blast with this cheap setup. Granted that I spin out sometimes but it's so satisfying when I clear corners. for some reason, mine doesn't have that slight gyro wobble. it might be because you set the gain too high?
Gain is usually a culprit, so I did try different settings. I expect it has more to do with the direct steering setup in this car. It will highlight any flaw!
@@RoadsideRC i see. Thank you for that! I just also want to ask, what external gyro upgrade can i get with my existing dumborc radio? I want to upgrade the gyro soon but i don't plan on upgrading my radio yet due to budget constraints.
I run a flysky fsgt5 and it also does a pretty decent job with it's built in gyro. It's very controllable and all the adjustments are done on the controller no fiddling with buttons on the receiver.
I am a drift noob going to build a Sakura 5d mr. I have got the Absima CR6P which is the same model like the FS GT5. Hope that this is going to work as well as you told👌 That would be fine😊
with the radiolink the gyro works. that chanel you see controls anything you program it to. so in actuality +100 is 100% gyro and -100 is 0%, so 0 would be 50% gyro. if you are in the gyro settings you will see this in effect.
great video! one question that arose from this video... Can you turn off the gyro on the receiver and still use your futaba gyd450... I would assume this would work, but the main question is the follow up.. Would this be a good tx/rx setup paired with the gyd450 for drifting...?
Yes - you can turn off the gyro and use the Futaba instead. I do not recommend the DumboRC for drifting at all. It doesn't have a good control for the gyro. I also do not recommend the Radiolink, but it can be made to work.
@@tmar352 I have a very old RC4GS manufactured in late 2018, I have the version 6.0.1 firmware on it as well as a2021 manufactured R4FGM receivers. I have none of the wobble issues on gyro mode except at above 90% sensitivity/gains due to my HPI Blitz having a large amount of caster steering angle, causing the entire chassis to shift with a small amount of steering, but still works great when driving balls to the wall on slippy surfaces.
Hi Troy the futaba transmitter is a little over my budget according to what you say in the video. Can rediolink control futaba's gyro gyd450 in avcs mode? Is there another reasonably priced transmitter that controls avcs mode .tenks
Yes, the Radiolink can be setup to control the GYD450 appropriately. However, driving back to back with my Futaba, there is a noticable difference in driving feel.
Apologies if it's an old video. I believe you answered my question and maybe I misunderstood it. Just to confirm, I can completely disable the built in gyro to utilize my own gyro correct? I'm getting back into the rc drifting again. I used to go all out a few years ago and wife wasn't happy. My goal is budget build and having a fun time. I been searching for decent budget transmitter, receivers, a good sized 2s lipo (minimum 70c) and charger. Might need gearing but I'll try to tune it to be conservative. Also what types of bodies can I fit on this chassis? That pandora raijin thunder god s15 is real nice and an 04 mustang cobra super nice but hard to find. Sakura d5 mr v2 HW quicrun 10BL120 sensored esc w/program card HW quicrun 3650 sensored 10.5t Powerhd D15 HV low profile servo w/program car Powerhd g1 gyro
Hi there! Happy to help. Yes - you can disable the inter al gyro so you can use a standalone gyro. However, I do NOT recommend either of these controllers. If you are trying to stay on a tight budget, use this one: ua-cam.com/video/65FJ4RAWuK4/v-deo.html
Can you use the knobs to adjust the gyro sensitivity on the yokomo v4 on the dumbo rc controller? And would the gyro work like regular if the receiver is on normal mode?
Yes, you can use the knob to adjust the sensitivity of the Yokomo gyro, but it is a very poor performance. There is no readout of what your gain is set at, and the precision of the adjustment is poor. Yes, keeping the receiver in normal mode will allow you to operate the external gyro as normal.
what are your thoughts on the dumborc built in gyro vs the MST MGX that comes in the RTR? i'm building another budget car, and was going to use a MST MGX that was given to me from a friend, but if its not any better than the built in dumborc gyro then i'll give it back to him.
Hello pak,saya ingin bertanya apakah radio dumbo rc di pakaikan gyro yokomo v4,apakah saya dapat mengatur sensitivitas gyro v4 saya di radio dumbo rc saya?
right now i have the BoomRacing gyro in D5 and its not the best but it works for me and ive tried the AVC in my spektrum it honestly was kinda meh (that could have been the receiver it was fairly old at that point ) but im sure with a new one and proper tuning it would be ok
Thanks for the response. Honestly, you try a proper gyro like the Futaba GYD450 and the Yokomo DP-302-v4 - and I believe you will have a whole different viewpoint!
Hey Roadisde hope you well sorry to bother you but I got one question i am new into rc cars and I want to buy the futaba gyro550 to fit into the Dumbol controller!!! would that works? or it is better to buy also a futaba controller? please could you help thank you and god bless you. Thanks for the video
Hello, You are looking to buy the most expensive and fanciest gyro...and pair it with the cheapest radio. It get the full use of the GYD550, you need a Futaba 4PM or higher.
@@RoadsideRC wow thank you for the help. I really appreciated. your idea came to my mind but i am new into rc that is why it was good to ask thank you all the best
@@RoadsideRC yea I ended up just getting the fatuba 3pv for drifting I have more than one drift car how would I go about using 1 transmitter for my other cars just get more receivers?
@@Radiolink_official I have used rx from Futaba and FrSky that binded successfully because they use the same protocols. I'm not saying it will work, but your comment of "you should know that" is a little demeaning. I'm not an electrical engineer from your company. If two pieces of tech are using the same language is ridiculous to think it might be compatible? Is that how I should expect my customer service to be from Radiolink?
@@HenriBrownell Hello sir. Really sorry for the rudeness of our staff. It is our negligence for improving the English ability of our staff. There may be some misunderstanding in using the sentence "you should know that" because of the lack of awareness of cultural difference. Sorry about that. And we'll make improvement. Wish you a nice day!
Hello!!! I have a question: if i buy the dumbo rc kit, with the receiver WITHOUTH the gyro, can i plug my mst mgx gyro in channel 6 and adjust the gain from there?? Thx!
@@RoadsideRC the issue is that the screw on my gyro broke, so im looking to adjust it with the controller… would you recommend any other option? Thanks!!
@Iker_otaa Honestly, I have tried many budget radios...and they have all disappointed. When I first started, I used the Flysky GT3C. It did well enough to get me going, and is better than the factory radio for sure. I plan to do a full setup and test on it for drifting again soon.
@@RoadsideRC yeah right, i just got this controller kit today. Ive been using all the old analogue controllers from my 80's RC's still lol. I've noticed going thru settings they must of got the hint as the gyro now go's from -100_0_100+ and does turn off its actual range. haven't got it installed yet but looking forward to trying
That's true if you are using the box stock receiver and box stock transmitter with none of the latest firmware, then yes expect latency and wobble. For my Radiolink RC4GS V1, I've updated its firmware to v6.0.1(i haven't tried the 6.0.8 firmware yet, as I've seem to have lost all my micro USB data cables due to the Type C trend) and running R4FGM receivers. I've never had wobbles except at high sensitivity gains for an RC chassis with large amounts of caster angle (in my case, HPI Blitz, ikr, not a drift car but very very oversteer-y on brushless 10.5T) And that's firmware support even for a Radiolink transmitter i got FIVE YEARS ago, you don't see such software support for THAT long for android devices, interestingly. Fun fact: Dumbo RC is a direct subsidiary of Radiolink, essentially, they really are the OEM for Dumbo, so your Radiolink RC6GS v2 with box stock R7FG is definitely of of an older stock, older firmware, and version (not sure if i saw V1.2 or something on your R7FG) than your Dumbo RC set(X6FG/R6FG may be of a lower/different model than the R7FG, but highly likely the manufacturing date may be very recent at the time of your recording), that's why the gyro instructions on your Dumbo RC X6FG is exactly the same for Radiolink's OEM receivers, and that receiver's Radiolink twin is the R6FG. So essentially you just tested two Radiolink radio equipment of vastly different manufacturing dates! Eerily enough, the local drift folks in my country keeps on implying that the Radiolink stuff is really bad and discouraged me from using it for RWD drifting, while forgetting the fact that there are vastly different iterative versions for each model of RX/TX as time goes by, and there are Firmware updates at regular intervals, and the box stock firmware tends not to be that great specially if it is a freshly released Radiolink model, hence I would expect some Radiolink RC8X reviews are GOING TO *UNFAIRLY* CONLCUDE IT SUCKS. One more fun fact, by this time a lot of Radiolink and Dumbo's receivers will all be manufactured with digital servo capabilities giving most of their receivers a latency of a total of 4ms with telemetry off.
Interesting information there. Maybe I will try again with a firmware upgrade. It would really surprise me if it was as good as a proper drift gyro - but maybe it will be better than it was before.
@@RoadsideRC Thanks for tthe reply! Yes, firmware upgrade has done a lot for my RC4GS performance. I was able to update to v6.0.8 earlier today but due to heavy rains I haven't been able to go out and bash. Brand new, out of the box I could barely make a few meters away in terms of range, and is easily interfered by WiFi routers from other households near me. Yes the box stock R6FG really sucked, and receivers can't have any firmware updates obviously. Things changed when I got the R4FGM receivers and software update to 6.0.8 What got me to get the RC4GS(another fun fact: it is the same mainboard as your RC6GS, mine has less switches, you can solder 2 more switches and run the latest RC6GS software and bob's yer uncle, you get an RC6GS for less!) is that it's latency is better than advertised latency of 14ms, comparable to Sanwa MT4!(there is a 960FP test video comparing both) I do plan converting my RC4GS to an RC6GS with 6.3.2 firmware soon.
That dumbo rx looks the same as the radiolink 6 ch . more for helping keep the car straight . i think . i bet it would bind to radiolink . interesting as always
I don't think "negative" is really a thing for RC control. All channels of all RC controllers output signal as pulse widths from i think roughly 1000 to 2000 microseconds (picoseconds?) with 1500 being center. The actual range noted on the dial or in the digital control is usually irrelevant. 0 to 50% of the dial outputs from 1000 to 1500 and 50% to 100% outputs from 1500 to 2000. Spektrum gives me double the resolution by letting me select from -100 to 100 and that's easier for us to comprehend than the actual output. I run dumbos in some of my crawlers and if the knob goes under 50% my rear steer goes one way and above 50% goes the other. It should control a gyro with the functionality just fine. 50% should be off, 50-100 non avc, and 50-0 should be avc. Now... Diailing in a good value using a rather coarse control knob is a whole other thing! Thank you for your videos!
Old comment and whatnot but, does that mean that if you reverse a channel, it'll go into (for the sake of keeping it simple) negative or positive range? So for example if you set a futaba gyro to a knob channel on a radio, you could switch between AVCS and Normal modes by reversing the channel?
@@equim8596 I am unfamiliar with that particular gear, but I believe so. Reversing a channel will cause it to operate from 2000 microseconds to 1000 microseconds rather than the other way around.
Hello... I am a beginner who is looking for a remote transmitter. Incidentally, I was considering one of these two remotes. but I'm not a drifter, but rather a rally car. do you think, dumbo rc is better than radio link in drift or rally? because the gyro is also very helpful in the rally. how about comfort when working the throttle and brake triggers? many complain that radiolink is less comfortable. thanks for your advice. hello rc lovers....
Yes! Both can control a gyro from the controller - but the Radiolink has more functionality than the DumboRC. Two things: - Driving the Radiolink controlling my Futaba GYD450 gyro - it still was not as smooth and intuitive as using my Futaba controller. If you can save up the extra $$$ to get a nicer controller - you will not regret it. - I HIGHLY recommend getting the Yokomo DP-302 v4 or the Futaba GYD450 gyros. Do NOT cheap out on a gyro.
You don't get hate from me on AWD - it is just a different driving experiencefor a different use. "Getting as sideways for as long" is actually not the point. Once you drive a proper RWD around a track, with other folks - then you will understand. I try to explain it here. Maybe that will help you? ua-cam.com/video/BGLWGxusBvI/v-deo.html
Guy1: "Hey! How are you doing?" Guy2: "Been cooped up in my garage for a while, trying to get the hang of the Big C.." Guy1: "OMG! YoU gOt CaNcEr?!?" Guy2: "Wut? No, dude.. Like.. Drifting RC cars." Guy1: "............" Guy1: "I think you'll need to explain that one.." Joke aside, great video.. Very informative. Been wondering if TSM could be used for something like this, as I otherwise find it completly useless.
@NorgeSquad That is what everyone wants to know! I have a full Drift Tech playlist where I have tested A LOT of gyros. After all of that testing, I 100% recommend spending extra to buy a better gyro. There are many cheap gyros that "work", but none of them have the performance the premium gyros have.
@@RoadsideRC yes, it's a rwd platform . Only difference is it's a 1/6th scale and is ran on regular pavement at a higher speed overall. Not confined to a tiny, shiny, ultraslippy garage floor
@@modzilla74 Certainly sounds like a VERY different application - so hard for you to say my verdict is wrong for this application. Would love to see a video of your vehicle!
This has actually been going around in my mind. Unfortunately, I really don't think the DumbRC gyro will be good enough for normal use on a full track.
It’s amazing how I came across this channel and this was one question I wanted answered for a while. I have a gyro receiver AND a RWD drifter with a dedicated gyro (specifically, a Yokomo YG-302) and only recently I discovered EVERYTHING you’ve found in this video!
Long story short, I’d bought that gyro receiver specifically for a drifter and yeah, spend the money and buy a good gyro! The sensitivity and control will benefit you greatly versus cheapening out and trying to use a gyro receiver.
Thanks Troy and keep them coming,
Glad you agree! Such a difference with proper equipment!
I was thinking of buying the radiolink yesterday and was wondering this myself! You completely read my mind!
Glad I could help!
been binge watching your vids since you posted the link in the d5 brotherhood on my post, love the content man
Thank you! I appreciate it.
Interesting I was running my Radiolink 4 on my Drifter when I first got it and I found it worked pretty good. Although turned up too high I did get the wobble as well. But I found a huge difference when I got my other one. I bought the Onisiki Gyro. :) Works good. Great video Troy. Thanks for sharing
Yeah, my takeaway is that a dedicated drift gyro is still 100% the way to go.
Glad you had better luck than I did!
My Sakura D5 build is my first drifter and the electronics were scabbed together. A DumboRC transmitter and receiver were on the shelf. Maybe someday I'll upgrade it all but I'm having a blast with the setup I've got right now.
Glad it is working for you!
Tkx bro was thinking about a gyro and this was very informative 😁👍
Glad to help!
Exactly the information I was looking for 👍
Glad I could help!
Thank you Troy, for this video!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
A funny story, I have DumboRC in all twelve of my cars, and had all of them turned off because of the gyro being backward out of the factory! I did not know how to reverse it, and even got rid of a badass little custom build because it was so powerful that without a gyro the car was uncontrollable. I have since reversed the gyro and all of the cars including my new Rlarrlo 917 are working great!
Awesome! Glad this could help!
Thanks for your help mam, you show me exactly what I need!! Amazing
Glad it was helpful!
Great Video Brother Troy 💯 I use the Radiolink in my Crawler's and Basher's but have the gyro turned off and use the adjustable channel for other purposes like Rear Steering
✌🤠👍 HFLPRCing 👍😎👍 AOAH 🌟 RCF4L 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy My Friend
Thanks Larry - yes, I think that would be a better use for the controller for sure.
Cool share 😃 BIG 👍 from Denmark
Thanks!
Good to know this as always wondered why we were told to buy an expensive gyro for drifting and not use the inbuilt ones - now we know why 😂😂
Yes! This is exactly why!
Thanks for this
Glad it was helpful!
I run a sky rc g401 gyro with my dumbo rc controller and works pretty well after some tinkering. The amount of fun I have with my budget setup, sub £300, makes me excited for when I can spend more on the hobby for higher grade parts!
Great! Glad to hear it!
@@RoadsideRC just bought an onsiki gyro and so ds racing changeable offset rims to eliminate the wheel rub lol n my d5. Hopefully going to the club next week to test it out
Good luck!
I'll be curious what you have to say about the Onsiki. I have not had very good luck with them.
Awesome Test man. Battlebots sound interesting
They are showing every Thursday night on the Discovery channel - 8pm-10pm your time. You should check them out!
@@RoadsideRC dude I love that show there were good battles last night..I thought you and your son or building one though.
Yes, we are! Just a small, horrible, garage version. :)
@@RoadsideRC that will be interesting and awesome
the gyro has some interesting options it seems some bad some good
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Thanks!
Hi could you review Power HD G1 gyro? I really like the way you review products. Thanks
I can try to!
I agree a good gyro goes a long ways I got that micro drifting video to come soon the tracks just showed up from the Philippines today
Awesome! I am looking forward to it!
Great video! I run my custom and scratchbuilt rc crawlers and ratrods with the radiolink controller.... I have recently been thinking about building a RWD drifter, and was curious about this exact gyro question! Thanx! :)
Glad it was useful!
Get the standalone, high-quality unit. They are worth it!
@@RoadsideRC Hello sir I'm from Malaysia I want ask I'm use the radiolink but 4 not 6....I want know went I close the gyro build in the additional gyro for rc drift like I'm use the power hd is can use at the same time I'm close the built in....by the way nice drifting.....
Hello - yes, you can turn off the receiver gyro, and use that radio to control the PowerHD gyro.
@@RoadsideRC ok tq...but my gyro from hd gyro is reverse I'm little bit confused negative or positive for the gain....the adjustment gain gyro is at ch3 right....
The gyro should have a reverse switch, or you will need to rotate it 180* to get it to operate the other direction.
The gyro gain can be controlled through the radio - but you have to set it up with whatever channel you want.
Awesome
I think on the radiolink there are two seperate modes for the gyro. Positive values are Avcs mode, and negative values are rate mode.
Thanks! When testing, I could not feel a difference.
I've got the DumboRC with gyro installed on the kids Tamiya tt02 rally car perfect for him.......and the range is awesome .
Yes! They are very good general controllers indeed.
Rally vs RWD drifting is a big difference though!
@@RoadsideRC yes you are correct.....we also have a Sakura d5s....but all I make is donuts.....cheers from Germany .
What I’ve found out with the built in gyros on the radiolinks, the positive & negative act like the sensitivity switch found on gyros. The beginner & advanced option. Can’t remember which is which, but the negative is one sensitivity & the positive I believe is the more sensitive option. Same as when you plug in the remote channel for servos for remote adjustability & one side of the zero seems a lot more twitchy than the other
Interesting, thanks!
So how would i set the radio link gyro for drag racing 25% 50% 75% or 100% on the nob on the transmitter
Question, did you say that the radiolink would be able to pair with the GYD450 or would you rather just pair the GYD450 with atleast a Futaba 3pv? Thx for all the testing videos.🙏🏾
Yes and yes! :)
After this video, I did use the Radiolink to drift while controlling the GYD450. It did work.
However, I would still recommend getting at minimum the 3PV. The steering feel and overall smoothness of the control is just plain better. I felt that even though I was still going through the GYD450, the general control of the car was not as good.
Does the radiolink have a setting for steering servo speed? Not expo but a setting that you can slow down ,speed up the servo lock to lock?
I don't believe it does.
Hi there.... Nice vids keep it up bro👍.
Would like to get your take on KOPRO's, good for drifting?
Thanks and drift on🤣.
Hi!
Unfortunately, I have never used Kopro products.
me and my friends are building drag rcs. I know gyros are illegal but were just building it for fun, would you recommend a stand alone gyro or the receiver built in ones are good enough? I also got the flysky nb4 so Im out of luck of the receiver based ones
Receiver gyros should be good enough.
hey boss i have a question if that radio link does let you play with the futaba gyro that you use, very interested parting out a build and dont want to fork out the 200+ for a futaba radio.
The Radiolink can control a proper drift gyro...but you will eventually upgrade to a better radio. Many people try to use these, and always come back and upgrade later...spending $$$ twice.
Can I use the radiolink tx/rx with futaba gyro? Thank you. Just subscribed love your vids
Yes you can!
Would the Radiolink RC6GS paired with a Yokomo v4 gyro and Revd servo be a good budget set up to get into drifting?
I do not recommend that controller. The servo and gyro are good.
Great vid!
Would you recommend a gyro for a 4wd bashing/occasional 4wd drifting as well?
Looks like fun!
And how does the dumborc gyro compare to spektrums avc?
Thanks, really appreciate your input =)
I honestly don't believe you need a gyro for general bashing. Not really worth the $$$, and some of them really take control away from you.
@@RoadsideRC thanks man, saved me a lot of money!
i bought a radiolink transmitter and receiver and im wondering if its possible to turn off the gyro on the receiver and just use the gyro that is already on my car? do i have to use the receiver gyro once i set it up?
Yes! You can turn off the receiver gyro. The manual tells you how.
Will Radiolink R4FGM work with DumboRC X6? I’ve made a 1/64 rc car and it worked pretty well but I wanted to mess with it a bit more for further upgrades only then its receiver stopped working. So Im deciding to replace the receiver with a different one and a much smaller one like the Radiolink R4FGM but I’m not sure if it will work.
I am sorry, I don't believe it will.
My stock receiver went out for my mst rmx, would u recommend dumbo rc just to get me by untill I get a futaba?
Have you checked how much a replacement receiver would be?
Looking on AMain, you can get the factory controller and receiver for under $50: bit.ly/3RyOfSN
Perhaps ask around - many of us have replaced the factory radios, so folks may have a receiver laying around you could use.
I would hate to see you "waste" the money on the Dumbo radio to just replace it again as soon as you can step up to a better radio.
Hi, I bought the Radiolink for Speedruns because of the incredible range. Do you think the buildin gyro could work to keep the car straight? Thats the oposite from drifting I know, but if that will working, that would be great
Thanks for an answer and all the best!
Yes - it would certainly help in that situation.
I have the dumbo RC X6PM-350 TX paired with an X6DCG RX in my RWD converted TT-01 and as a beginner, I'm already having a blast with this cheap setup. Granted that I spin out sometimes but it's so satisfying when I clear corners. for some reason, mine doesn't have that slight gyro wobble. it might be because you set the gain too high?
Gain is usually a culprit, so I did try different settings. I expect it has more to do with the direct steering setup in this car. It will highlight any flaw!
@@RoadsideRC i see. Thank you for that! I just also want to ask, what external gyro upgrade can i get with my existing dumborc radio? I want to upgrade the gyro soon but i don't plan on upgrading my radio yet due to budget constraints.
I'm now running my Sakura d5S on a dumborc x6fg internal gyro, ditched my Onisiki
Wow! That is interesting.
I run a flysky fsgt5 and it also does a pretty decent job with it's built in gyro. It's very controllable and all the adjustments are done on the controller no fiddling with buttons on the receiver.
I didn't get to test that one! Maybe next time.
What chassis do you run it in?
@@RoadsideRC I'm running a Sakura d5s as well.
what setting do you run for the gyro on the gt5?
@@andreypolyakov3447 you need to set it in reverse for drifting.
I am a drift noob going to build a Sakura 5d mr. I have got the Absima CR6P which is the same model like the FS GT5. Hope that this is going to work as well as you told👌 That would be fine😊
with the radiolink the gyro works. that chanel you see controls anything you program it to. so in actuality +100 is 100% gyro and -100 is 0%, so 0 would be 50% gyro. if you are in the gyro settings you will see this in effect.
Yes - it "worked" but not good enough for RC drifting. That is the purpose of this video.
great video! one question that arose from this video... Can you turn off the gyro on the receiver and still use your futaba gyd450... I would assume this would work, but the main question is the follow up.. Would this be a good tx/rx setup paired with the gyd450 for drifting...?
Yes - you can turn off the gyro and use the Futaba instead.
I do not recommend the DumboRC for drifting at all. It doesn't have a good control for the gyro.
I also do not recommend the Radiolink, but it can be made to work.
@@RoadsideRC ooof already have the radio link but ill be getting a 3pv soon. thanks again!
Have you tried Flysky GT5 radio with the 6ch receiver ??
Nope. I have not.
I use DumboRC in my RWD 1/12 MT for bashing. It works pretty good.
Yes! I use it in a bunch of my bashers and crawlers. RWD RC drifting is a whole different world.
@@RoadsideRC would it be better than not having one in a rwd slash?
@@tmar352 I have a very old RC4GS manufactured in late 2018, I have the version 6.0.1 firmware on it as well as a2021 manufactured R4FGM receivers.
I have none of the wobble issues on gyro mode except at above 90% sensitivity/gains due to my HPI Blitz having a large amount of caster steering angle, causing the entire chassis to shift with a small amount of steering, but still works great when driving balls to the wall on slippy surfaces.
Did u build your camaro body...I can't figure out the back piece
I did not - I bought it used. Sorry.
Hi Troy the futaba transmitter is a little over my budget according to what you say in the video. Can rediolink control futaba's gyro gyd450 in avcs mode? Is there another reasonably priced transmitter that controls avcs mode .tenks
Yes, the Radiolink can be setup to control the GYD450 appropriately.
However, driving back to back with my Futaba, there is a noticable difference in driving feel.
Also in avcs mode? Because that's basically what's most important
Yes!
Apologies if it's an old video.
I believe you answered my question and maybe I misunderstood it. Just to confirm, I can completely disable the built in gyro to utilize my own gyro correct?
I'm getting back into the rc drifting again. I used to go all out a few years ago and wife wasn't happy. My goal is budget build and having a fun time.
I been searching for decent budget transmitter, receivers, a good sized 2s lipo (minimum 70c) and charger.
Might need gearing but I'll try to tune it to be conservative.
Also what types of bodies can I fit on this chassis? That pandora raijin thunder god s15 is real nice and an 04 mustang cobra super nice but hard to find.
Sakura d5 mr v2
HW quicrun 10BL120 sensored esc w/program card
HW quicrun 3650 sensored 10.5t
Powerhd D15 HV low profile servo w/program car
Powerhd g1 gyro
Hi there! Happy to help.
Yes - you can disable the inter al gyro so you can use a standalone gyro. However, I do NOT recommend either of these controllers.
If you are trying to stay on a tight budget, use this one:
ua-cam.com/video/65FJ4RAWuK4/v-deo.html
@@RoadsideRC man you're awesome. Appreciate it.
can u give an opinion of the radionlink rc4gs built in gyro?
It would be the same as the RC6GS most likely. Waste of time.
Can you use the knobs to adjust the gyro sensitivity on the yokomo v4 on the dumbo rc controller? And would the gyro work like regular if the receiver is on normal mode?
Yes, you can use the knob to adjust the sensitivity of the Yokomo gyro, but it is a very poor performance. There is no readout of what your gain is set at, and the precision of the adjustment is poor.
Yes, keeping the receiver in normal mode will allow you to operate the external gyro as normal.
@@RoadsideRC ok thank you!
@@RoadsideRC hey! i have another question on the radio link can you adjust gyro grain on it with an external gyro like the v4?
Yes you can.
@@RoadsideRC it can be on any channel right?
hello. don't know if anyone else mentioned, but Dumbo rc is owned by Radiolink
Really! That is interesting.
what are your thoughts on the dumborc built in gyro vs the MST MGX that comes in the RTR? i'm building another budget car, and was going to use a MST MGX that was given to me from a friend, but if its not any better than the built in dumborc gyro then i'll give it back to him.
No!!!!!
The MGX is MUCH better.
@@RoadsideRC thanks.
Hello pak,saya ingin bertanya apakah radio dumbo rc di pakaikan gyro yokomo v4,apakah saya dapat mengatur sensitivitas gyro v4 saya di radio dumbo rc saya?
Saya tidak merekomendasikan ini. DumboRC tidak mengontrol gyro eksternal dengan baik.
Does the button on the side of the DumboRC work as a boost/turbo?
No, it does not.
right now i have the BoomRacing gyro in D5 and its not the best but it works for me and ive tried the AVC in my spektrum it honestly was kinda meh (that could have been the receiver it was fairly old at that point ) but im sure with a new one and proper tuning it would be ok
Thanks for the response.
Honestly, you try a proper gyro like the Futaba GYD450 and the Yokomo DP-302-v4 - and I believe you will have a whole different viewpoint!
@@RoadsideRC i completely agree with you i went with the boom racing gyro because i couldn't afford the futaba or the yokomo at the time
Can you do this kind of video with a Flysky gt5? Drift noob here and no flysky drift video is in English 😅
Multiple local folks have tried the GT5...and all have had very poor luck.
I do not recommend it for drifting.
Hey Roadisde hope you well sorry to bother you but I got one question i am new into rc cars and I want to buy the futaba gyro550 to fit into the Dumbol controller!!! would that works? or it is better to buy also a futaba controller? please could you help thank you and god bless you. Thanks for the video
Hello,
You are looking to buy the most expensive and fanciest gyro...and pair it with the cheapest radio.
It get the full use of the GYD550, you need a Futaba 4PM or higher.
@@RoadsideRC wow thank you for the help. I really appreciated. your idea came to my mind but i am new into rc that is why it was good to ask thank you all the best
How would I go about using this on my stock mar rmx 2.5? To sure what plugs into what or how that really works? The radio link
I 100% do not suggest you use this controller for drifting.
@@RoadsideRC yea I ended up just getting the fatuba 3pv for drifting I have more than one drift car how would I go about using 1 transmitter for my other cars just get more receivers?
@@rogeliomartinez7847 Yes, that is all you would need to do.
So, RadioLink and DumboRC both use FHSS protocols on their receivers, have you tried the RadioLink Tx with the DumboRc rx?
I have not.
They are not interchangable. At least on the version 1 of the rc4gs its not.
Hi, they are cannot bind with each other, you should know that.
@@Radiolink_official I have used rx from Futaba and FrSky that binded successfully because they use the same protocols. I'm not saying it will work, but your comment of "you should know that" is a little demeaning. I'm not an electrical engineer from your company. If two pieces of tech are using the same language is ridiculous to think it might be compatible? Is that how I should expect my customer service to be from Radiolink?
@@HenriBrownell Hello sir. Really sorry for the rudeness of our staff. It is our negligence for improving the English ability of our staff. There may be some misunderstanding in using the sentence "you should know that" because of the lack of awareness of cultural difference. Sorry about that. And we'll make improvement. Wish you a nice day!
Hello!!! I have a question: if i buy the dumbo rc kit, with the receiver WITHOUTH the gyro, can i plug my mst mgx gyro in channel 6 and adjust the gain from there?? Thx!
Technically yes...but it does not work very well. You will end up replacing this controller rather soon.
This works...but I do NOT recommend it.
@@RoadsideRC the issue is that the screw on my gyro broke, so im looking to adjust it with the controller… would you recommend any other option? Thanks!!
@@Iker_otaa My go-to controllers are the Futaba 4PM and Flysky Noble.
@@RoadsideRC out of my budget sadly… anything in the 50$ Range? I dont need a fancy one, just one that does the job and has the gyro gain adjustable
@Iker_otaa Honestly, I have tried many budget radios...and they have all disappointed.
When I first started, I used the Flysky GT3C. It did well enough to get me going, and is better than the factory radio for sure.
I plan to do a full setup and test on it for drifting again soon.
I got a dumbo rc, but I got the no gyro version so I can use a hackslider mini gyro. Will this mean that it's good?
We tried to use the DumboRC to work a drift gyro. It is hard to set the gyro gain accurately.
@@RoadsideRC but will it work with the reciever without a built in gyro? Thanks
@@seabassshorts Yes.
You should try to change the radio link channel to 0-100 sweep and see if it’s more tunable
Would give finer tuning
Thanks, I'll check.
i would of thought having the antennas 180 and not 90 would cause sensitivity issue ? or does it make no difference.
For something long range, it my have an impact, but for drifting...we don't get very far away.
@@RoadsideRC yeah right, i just got this controller kit today. Ive been using all the old analogue controllers from my 80's RC's still lol. I've noticed going thru settings they must of got the hint as the gyro now go's from -100_0_100+ and does turn off its actual range. haven't got it installed yet but looking forward to trying
@@oneglimmer Awesome! Good luck!
That's true if you are using the box stock receiver and box stock transmitter with none of the latest firmware, then yes expect latency and wobble.
For my Radiolink RC4GS V1, I've updated its firmware to v6.0.1(i haven't tried the 6.0.8 firmware yet, as I've seem to have lost all my micro USB data cables due to the Type C trend) and running R4FGM receivers.
I've never had wobbles except at high sensitivity gains for an RC chassis with large amounts of caster angle (in my case, HPI Blitz, ikr, not a drift car but very very oversteer-y on brushless 10.5T)
And that's firmware support even for a Radiolink transmitter i got FIVE YEARS ago, you don't see such software support for THAT long for android devices, interestingly.
Fun fact: Dumbo RC is a direct subsidiary of Radiolink, essentially, they really are the OEM for Dumbo, so your Radiolink RC6GS v2 with box stock R7FG is definitely of of an older stock, older firmware, and version (not sure if i saw V1.2 or something on your R7FG) than your Dumbo RC set(X6FG/R6FG may be of a lower/different model than the R7FG, but highly likely the manufacturing date may be very recent at the time of your recording), that's why the gyro instructions on your Dumbo RC X6FG is exactly the same for Radiolink's OEM receivers, and that receiver's Radiolink twin is the R6FG.
So essentially you just tested two Radiolink radio equipment of vastly different manufacturing dates!
Eerily enough, the local drift folks in my country keeps on implying that the Radiolink stuff is really bad and discouraged me from using it for RWD drifting, while forgetting the fact that there are vastly different iterative versions for each model of RX/TX as time goes by, and there are Firmware updates at regular intervals, and the box stock firmware tends not to be that great specially if it is a freshly released Radiolink model, hence I would expect some Radiolink RC8X reviews are GOING TO *UNFAIRLY* CONLCUDE IT SUCKS.
One more fun fact, by this time a lot of Radiolink and Dumbo's receivers will all be manufactured with digital servo capabilities giving most of their receivers a latency of a total of 4ms with telemetry off.
Interesting information there.
Maybe I will try again with a firmware upgrade. It would really surprise me if it was as good as a proper drift gyro - but maybe it will be better than it was before.
@@RoadsideRC Thanks for tthe reply! Yes, firmware upgrade has done a lot for my RC4GS performance. I was able to update to v6.0.8 earlier today but due to heavy rains I haven't been able to go out and bash.
Brand new, out of the box I could barely make a few meters away in terms of range, and is easily interfered by WiFi routers from other households near me.
Yes the box stock R6FG really sucked, and receivers can't have any firmware updates obviously.
Things changed when I got the R4FGM receivers and software update to 6.0.8
What got me to get the RC4GS(another fun fact: it is the same mainboard as your RC6GS, mine has less switches, you can solder 2 more switches and run the latest RC6GS software and bob's yer uncle, you get an RC6GS for less!) is that it's latency is better than advertised latency of 14ms, comparable to Sanwa MT4!(there is a 960FP test video comparing both)
I do plan converting my RC4GS to an RC6GS with 6.3.2 firmware soon.
That dumbo rx looks the same as the radiolink 6 ch . more for helping keep the car straight . i think . i bet it would bind to radiolink . interesting as always
You got it right. The gyros are there to help the car stay straight, and I was fighting them the whole time.
sorry, Dumbo rx cannot bind with Radiolink radios. :)
@@Radiolink_official I wasn't sure . Rx looked about the same . I have 3 radiolink radios several 6ch and 7 ch reciever. Thought they may bind .
@@RichB07 Sorry radiolink system is not open-source, so radiolink transmitters can only work with radiolink receivers.
I don't think "negative" is really a thing for RC control. All channels of all RC controllers output signal as pulse widths from i think roughly 1000 to 2000 microseconds (picoseconds?) with 1500 being center. The actual range noted on the dial or in the digital control is usually irrelevant. 0 to 50% of the dial outputs from 1000 to 1500 and 50% to 100% outputs from 1500 to 2000. Spektrum gives me double the resolution by letting me select from -100 to 100 and that's easier for us to comprehend than the actual output. I run dumbos in some of my crawlers and if the knob goes under 50% my rear steer goes one way and above 50% goes the other. It should control a gyro with the functionality just fine. 50% should be off, 50-100 non avc, and 50-0 should be avc. Now... Diailing in a good value using a rather coarse control knob is a whole other thing!
Thank you for your videos!
Thanks for the info.
Old comment and whatnot but, does that mean that if you reverse a channel, it'll go into (for the sake of keeping it simple) negative or positive range? So for example if you set a futaba gyro to a knob channel on a radio, you could switch between AVCS and Normal modes by reversing the channel?
@@equim8596 I am unfamiliar with that particular gear, but I believe so. Reversing a channel will cause it to operate from 2000 microseconds to 1000 microseconds rather than the other way around.
@@tonyhoff86 Yeah, that made sense in my head at least. I guess I'll try it out. Cheers!
I use the Dumbo in my mini drifters and Gyro works great. It’s not a futaba 550 but it works😂😂
Glad to hear you are enjoying it.
If i buy a good gyro and use the dumborc transmitter i should be fine right?
Honestly - no. It doesn't give you good control of the gyro.
@@RoadsideRC Ok I see
Hello...
I am a beginner who is looking for a remote transmitter.
Incidentally, I was considering one of these two remotes.
but I'm not a drifter, but rather a rally car.
do you think, dumbo rc is better than radio link in drift or rally?
because the gyro is also very helpful in the rally.
how about comfort when working the throttle and brake triggers?
many complain that radiolink is less comfortable.
thanks for your advice.
hello rc lovers....
Hello - yes, I do prefer the DumboRC to the Radiolink for comfort and use.
@@RoadsideRC is the dumbo rc gyro receiver waterproof?
I have no issue with the radiolink in my brushless 1/8 4wd at drifting
Correct - AWD vs RWD is a BIG difference.
so the radiolink receiver & futabu gyro is a go?
Yes, that combo does work, but not great.
Can you try a flysky gt5 built in gyro?
I want to! Don't have my hands on one!
Can you use a external gyro with those cheaper remotes? I want to get onisiki or yokomo gyro
Yes! Both can control a gyro from the controller - but the Radiolink has more functionality than the DumboRC.
Two things:
- Driving the Radiolink controlling my Futaba GYD450 gyro - it still was not as smooth and intuitive as using my Futaba controller. If you can save up the extra $$$ to get a nicer controller - you will not regret it.
- I HIGHLY recommend getting the Yokomo DP-302 v4 or the Futaba GYD450 gyros. Do NOT cheap out on a gyro.
@@RoadsideRC thank you so much I decided to get the gyd450 but as a remote I’m still deciding between the 3pv or the gt5
Go 3PV - it is MUCH BETTER than the GT5. One guy at our track started with the GT5...and quickly switched to the 3PV.
Buy once, don't buy twice!
@@RoadsideRC thank you so much i just got into rc drifting thanks to you I've learn a lot !
Glad to help!
I don't get the hate on the AWD drifters. I can get my TT02D just as sideways for as long without a gyro.
You don't get hate from me on AWD - it is just a different driving experiencefor a different use.
"Getting as sideways for as long" is actually not the point.
Once you drive a proper RWD around a track, with other folks - then you will understand.
I try to explain it here. Maybe that will help you?
ua-cam.com/video/BGLWGxusBvI/v-deo.html
Qual vc recomenda o dumbor rc ou o rádio link?
Para drifting, também não recomendo.
Have you tried a traxxas TQI remote and receiver?
Those are not setup for drift - they are used for keeping you from drifting.
@@RoadsideRC I know just wondering if anyone has tried it
Guy1: "Hey! How are you doing?"
Guy2: "Been cooped up in my garage for a while, trying to get the hang of the Big C.."
Guy1: "OMG! YoU gOt CaNcEr?!?"
Guy2: "Wut? No, dude.. Like.. Drifting RC cars."
Guy1: "............"
Guy1: "I think you'll need to explain that one.."
Joke aside, great video.. Very informative. Been wondering if TSM could be used for something like this, as I otherwise find it completly useless.
Ha! Thanks for the entertainment!
From what I have seen, the TSM will would be similar to the Radiolink here - just not really what you want.
Nice car in the driveway!!! 70 chevelle?
Good eye!
1971!
@@RoadsideRC oh duh the 70 had double lights on the front🤦🏻♂️
You just!!!! make the stuff looks good 😂😂😂😂.
Thanks!
Hey can you tell me exactly what receiver and transmitter you run
I run an older Futaba T4PV. I would suggest using the newer 4PM: amzn.to/3ayQx0x
@@RoadsideRC what about the Futaba 3PV-R314SB
It works, but doesn't have all of the features.
@@RoadsideRC I'm trying to do a cheaper alternative but is still amazing any options
@@RoadsideRC and can you adjust th gyro and do avcs mode
Does the MT12 have a built in Gyro?
It does not.
@@RoadsideRC do you know a cheap and good gyro?
@NorgeSquad That is what everyone wants to know! I have a full Drift Tech playlist where I have tested A LOT of gyros.
After all of that testing, I 100% recommend spending extra to buy a better gyro. There are many cheap gyros that "work", but none of them have the performance the premium gyros have.
What about a tqi?
Very similar results - not worth it.
I would guess that the gyro on these is for speed runs rather than drifting.
Correct - speed runs or just general bashing.
I tried the same thing with my Spektrum AVS. It would just keep fighting me for control. lol
They really are just meant for a different purpose, but I seriously get this question VERY frequently.
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Thanks!
Now what gyro can I use in my falony?
For an AWD car, you don't need a gyro.
@@RoadsideRC let me know if we could speak privately thanks
You can message me on Facebook.
All I know is that my Dumbo makes uncontrollable bashers controllable....🤘💀🤘
That is certainly more what it is made for, instead of rwd rc drifting!
What's kinda ironic is both these controllers are made by the same people and sold under various different brands😂
That is fairly common across the RC industry.
Ur wrong about the radio Link. I solely use this gyro and feel it works excellent.
Use it for RWD drifting?
If so, try a proper gyro and you will see the difference!
@@RoadsideRC yes, it's a rwd platform . Only difference is it's a 1/6th scale and is ran on regular pavement at a higher speed overall. Not confined to a tiny, shiny, ultraslippy garage floor
@@modzilla74 Certainly sounds like a VERY different application - so hard for you to say my verdict is wrong for this application.
Would love to see a video of your vehicle!
Make an ultimate entry level drift car , Sakura D5 , surpass Hobby V3 10.5T + hobbywing 10bl60 + DumboRC transmiter with gyro .
This has actually been going around in my mind. Unfortunately, I really don't think the DumbRC gyro will be good enough for normal use on a full track.
@@RoadsideRC sure , but it should be good in a 4x4 drift basher for the streets.
I think it should have been a blind test.
Why?
Is radiolink good or bad? I don't understand your language. I'm a Turk. I'm using translation for the text.🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷😃😃
Neither of these controllers are good for drifting with the internal gyro.
I also do not recommend them for drifting with a drift gyro either.
@@RoadsideRC I understand now thank you 😃😃😇
Gyro in a drift car, kind of taking away the art and skill to do the drifting.
Have you driven a rwd rc drift car before?
Dumbo rc has a 500 meter range...just sayin
Not sure what your point is? Typically for RC drift, the track is rather small...
The traxxas tsm works great as a drift gyro till my actual gyro gets here
Thanks for the feedback!
What gyro did you purchase?
@@RoadsideRC I got the onisiki drift gyro because it was the only one that was available at the time
The Traxxas is 👎 Its fine for my Slash but I can't wait to some "real" drift electronics for my son's RMX.
Yes! They do make a difference for sure.
I kinda look at them as cheating.
For an AWD car, they are 100% not necessary...probably actually hurt control for sure.
FYI Dumbo Radios are made by Radiolink.
Interesting!